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06:53.21 | mozrat | hello |
07:00.58 | morsing | mozrat! |
07:02.05 | mozrat | hallo |
07:04.43 | morsing | How are the kids? |
07:04.53 | mozrat | Good thanks :-) |
07:05.00 | mozrat | Getting old |
07:05.24 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/img-1.jpg |
07:05.32 | mozrat | Owl!! |
07:06.44 | Leeds | cute |
07:08.02 | mozrat | Thanks :) |
07:08.13 | mozrat | That was about 6 months ago - they are bigger now |
07:11.34 | morsing | What?! |
07:11.52 | mozrat | That photo isn't very recent |
07:12.30 | morsing | They go bigger? |
07:12.52 | mozrat | Only if you feed them |
07:13.03 | morsing | You shouldn't feed them then :) |
07:14.07 | mozrat | No. they then become noisy |
07:14.14 | mozrat | it is a fine balance |
07:14.17 | morsing | What's a good digital camera these days? I'm happy with my G3 but the pictures are blurry |
07:14.24 | morsing | Nice |
07:15.01 | Leeds | I like the Ixus range, but they tend to blur at night because they go to a long exposure - the top-end one has image stabilisation now, I think |
07:15.33 | morsing | Ok, I'm looking semi-pro £3-500 |
07:16.00 | morsing | I don't understand wy my camera takes blurry photos though |
07:16.04 | morsing | h |
07:16.43 | Leeds | not dslr though? |
07:16.47 | morsing | Ok guys, here are some 'h's. Whenever I miss one out, just put it in |
07:16.53 | morsing | hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
07:17.05 | morsing | dslr? Far too expensive |
07:19.15 | Leeds | you can get them for *much* less than that, nowadays |
07:23.21 | morsing | Leeds: Uhmmm... No you can't |
07:23.52 | morsing | Lenses alone is around £1200 - £1500 |
07:24.49 | Leeds | http://tinyurl.com/yhwwex is the ixus I was thinking of, anyway |
07:25.09 | Leeds | and you can get a body and lens for under £1000, quite easily |
07:26.05 | morsing | And that lens would be semi-poor quality and far from adeqaute if you want to take advantage of the SLR |
07:27.15 | Leeds | probably - but you can still get it |
07:27.22 | morsing | Why hasn't Skeletor emailed me yet...? |
07:27.40 | Leeds | there is *something* between a £300 point'n'shoot and a £1500 dslr |
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07:30.08 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
07:30.14 | SlayerXP | morning |
07:34.43 | morsing | ibot skeletor |
07:35.06 | morsing | ibot Skeletor is the wife of TwoSheds |
07:35.07 | ibot | morsing: okay |
07:35.09 | morsing | ibot skeletor |
07:35.10 | ibot | somebody said skeletor was the wife of TwoSheds |
07:35.16 | morsing | :) |
07:35.38 | morsing | ibot TwoSheds |
07:35.47 | morsing | ibot TwoSheds is the lucky owner of two sheds |
07:35.48 | ibot | okay, morsing |
07:35.50 | morsing | ibot TwoSheds |
07:35.51 | ibot | twosheds is probably the lucky owner of two sheds |
07:36.05 | morsing | thanks ibot |
07:39.12 | Leeds | ibot twosheds is also a character in a Monty Python sketch |
07:39.14 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
07:39.21 | morsing | ibot TwoSheds |
07:39.22 | ibot | twosheds is probably the lucky owner of two sheds, or a character in a Monty Python sketch |
07:57.27 | sabinef72 | morning |
08:05.12 | morsing | sabinef72! |
08:05.13 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
08:05.13 | murb | moin |
08:08.08 | morsing | murb! |
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08:10.05 | morsing | Erwin! |
08:10.12 | Erwin | mornig |
08:11.23 | sabinef72 | who takes my sun today ? who ? |
08:11.47 | mozrat | Not I. The weather is horrid here |
08:16.17 | mozrat | morning sabinef72 |
08:23.25 | sabinef72 | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
08:23.36 | sabinef72 | that's good and you deserve a kiss |
08:24.33 | morsing | :) |
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08:54.25 | morsing | stephanb2! |
08:59.02 | popey | mozrat! |
08:59.18 | popey | nice collateral, passed to linux newbie in the office here. thanks |
09:00.23 | mozrat | popey: I'll be happy if it helps someone! |
09:00.59 | mozrat | I had to remove the Monty Python pictures on the "Any Questions" slide at the end of each segment |
09:01.02 | mozrat | :-) |
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09:29.22 | mozrat | Can anyone recommend a W32 log file joiner? |
09:29.34 | morsing | Yes, w32_log_joiner.exe |
09:30.01 | popey | copy |
09:30.08 | popey | copy log1 + log2 log3 :) |
09:32.43 | mozrat | :) |
09:33.04 | mozrat | doesn't help when you want to avoid duplicating log entries when you keep merging them |
09:34.59 | huw-l | mozrat: how do windows people get work done without cat,sort,uniq etc? |
09:36.04 | z0d | huw-l: They install cygwin... |
09:36.12 | morsing | z00dax! |
09:36.12 | huw-l | hah |
09:37.11 | Leeds | now that's something I didn't expect... was given a scratchcard in the pub last week - one where you had to SMS in your name and the code - and I won... just got a call from them asking for my address so they could sent it to me |
09:38.09 | Leeds | the competition is a joint Carlesberg/Liverpool FC one... the first prize, which I didn't win, was a trip to Liverpool... I can see a trip from Liverpool to HK being a big thing to win, but the other way around doesn't sound quite so exciting |
09:42.16 | mozrat | huw-l: seriously, I have no idea |
09:42.24 | mozrat | All of these W32 log tools are TERRIBLE |
09:42.42 | mozrat | they don't handle multiple log files... |
09:42.53 | mozrat | Why didn't these people use Apache? |
09:44.04 | huw-l | Leeds: presumably to HK natives Liverpool is mysterious and exotic. |
09:44.16 | eyore | yes. how amusing :) |
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09:52.01 | morsing | goibhniu! |
09:52.17 | goibhniu | hey morsing |
09:55.41 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6059026.stm - hmmm... |
09:56.20 | Leeds | huw-l: to be a little more serious - the prize is to go to Anfield, take three penalty shots during half-time in a match, and win lots of cash if you can get any (or all) in the net |
09:56.43 | Leeds | I could do with a trip to Liverpool, anyway - haven't been back since I graduated |
10:13.27 | huw-l | anyone got a reccomendation for a wiki that will talk to PAM for users and auth? |
10:13.43 | huw-l | preferably without masses of patches to make it work |
10:22.24 | morsing | Baa# |
10:57.36 | morsing | Mozzie? |
11:11.49 | goibhniu | hot dang ... it ain't possible to run IE with a java plugin under wine ... I hate it when something isn't possible :( |
11:15.39 | mozrat | Morsing, are you going to the first or second day of the Expo next week? |
11:16.25 | serris | hi mozrat, morsing |
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11:18.24 | Blapto | Hi, anybody at the storage expo? |
11:20.53 | wethrin | Hello. Not me. |
11:21.03 | wethrin | But if you can grab me a nice RAID array... |
11:22.48 | Blapto | I'll see if there are any free ones |
11:25.02 | wethrin | cool |
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11:41.50 | Leeds | "According to the newspaper Ha'aretz, Intel Israel will hire 1,500 more staff in Israel by the end of 2007." |
11:42.37 | Leeds | "Most of the hiring is in the R&D sections in Haifa, Yakum and Kiryat Gat." - I'm not sure where Yakum is, but I know Haifa (it's a big big city) and I've been through Kiryat Gat a few times |
11:44.45 | murb | how many of these sites arewithin missle range of lebanon? |
11:45.45 | Leeds | uh... both Haifa and Kiryat Gat are |
11:47.33 | mozrat | serris! |
11:48.06 | serris | mozrat! |
11:48.13 | serris | How's it going? |
11:48.22 | serris | Are you at LWE on both days? |
11:52.42 | mozrat | Yes! |
11:53.54 | serris | Good good : ) |
11:54.12 | stephanb2 | Leeds: but Intel missiles are not very good |
11:55.16 | mozrat | stephanb2: they are if you overclock them |
12:02.57 | morsing | Moo |
12:07.28 | Leeds | and it seems there's a good chance I'll be a landlord tomorrow |
12:08.38 | stephanb2 | Leeds: in Hong Kong??? |
12:08.54 | Leeds | no, in London |
12:37.14 | morsing | Mooo |
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12:38.11 | morsing | formi! |
12:38.13 | morsing | serris_! |
12:38.25 | serris_ | hi! |
12:38.40 | formi | hello |
12:40.12 | formi | is it me or this channel seems populated |
12:40.47 | formi | I was trying to chase Leeds and/or Jason |
12:42.10 | mozrat | Leeds is around, haven't seen jason in an age |
12:42.15 | mozrat | or you.. for that matter :-) |
12:42.29 | formi | I don't quite do irc anymore |
12:43.12 | formi | I had to comit a cardinal sin and ended up playing with freenx |
12:44.17 | formi | so I decided to try a "graphical based" app with loads of text to check how the things performs |
12:44.34 | mozrat | xchat? |
12:44.53 | formi | that wasn't the cardinal sin |
12:45.17 | formi | I had to install linux which I hadn't done for about 3 years |
12:45.41 | mozrat | I see |
12:46.43 | formi | the amount of bloat on FC5 is not helpfull either |
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12:49.05 | eyore | well we all want little twirly graphics and to be able to open MS word documents |
12:50.19 | formi | does anybody know if there is an easy way of changing the desktop manager |
12:50.20 | formi | ? |
12:51.34 | formi | Leeds, I still have the book |
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12:52.42 | formi | you will need to refresh my memory about who is supposed to get it |
12:52.42 | Leeds | ah... |
12:53.58 | Leeds | formi: Christian Smith |
12:54.20 | formi | does he hang around here? |
12:54.34 | Leeds | no |
12:55.07 | formi | do you know if there is any photo of him around? |
12:55.35 | Leeds | uh, probably, but no recent ones that I'm aware of |
12:55.54 | Leeds | how about I email the two of you and you can talk to each other? |
12:56.33 | formi | ok |
12:56.51 | formi | do you have my hk based email address? |
12:57.13 | Cope | formi is in hk? |
12:57.50 | formi | Cope, my domain is hosted in hk, I am hosted somewhere else |
12:58.04 | Leeds | since when has your domain been hosted in HK? :-) |
12:58.22 | formi | 2-3 years |
12:58.28 | formi | rootr.net |
12:59.14 | Leeds | hmm... you have no WHOIS |
12:59.29 | formi | that is the "provider" |
12:59.48 | formi | its- .net is mine |
13:00.04 | formi | you can guess what goes in the empty space |
13:00.10 | Leeds | hmm... that's odd - from my HK IP, there is no WHOIS for rootr.net but from the UK there is |
13:01.18 | Leeds | oh, they're in the Lippo Centre - I know the building... I pointed it out to some Yanks on the tram last nigh |
13:01.48 | formi | well HK isn't that big is it? |
13:02.07 | Leeds | nope |
13:02.19 | formi | I guess it is like London that all the tech places are more or less clustered |
13:02.24 | stephanb2 | formi: ure looking for a lighter desktop manager than gnome/kde on FC5? |
13:02.32 | Leeds | but the Lippo Centre is the only building in town which is glass-fronted and made to look like it's got koala bears climbing up it... |
13:03.01 | formi | stephanb2, i am looking towards having a "trouble free" swap between Gnome and fluxbox |
13:03.17 | stephanb2 | formi: ouch |
13:04.08 | Leeds | formi: it was the Xinu book about Operating Systems, right? |
13:04.34 | stephanb2 | formi: ive done this exercise before. i did a "minimal" FC4 install and then install fluxbox |
13:05.16 | formi | Leeds, yeap, I actually read part of it |
13:06.42 | Leeds | check your mail... |
13:07.05 | formi | I had guessed that by installing fluxbox the entry would be added to the gdm login page |
13:14.28 | Leeds | time to go scavenging - try to find something like dinner |
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13:31.23 | morsing | Jasperw! |
13:31.24 | morsing | Odd! |
13:37.53 | morsing | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Roe |
13:41.23 | stephanb2 | formi: maybe this can help http://aleph-null.tv/go.php?doc=20040819-1137-374.xml |
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13:45.52 | Blapto | wethrin, no free RAID arrays :( |
13:46.07 | formi | I remenber I saw somebody using something like switchdesktop on fc3 but can't find anything similar for fc5 |
13:46.18 | Blapto | Got Hitachi sweets, Sun torches, stress balls and a first aid kit though |
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13:52.15 | morsing | Gunde! |
13:52.21 | Gunde | Good afternoon |
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14:22.58 | morsing | phearless! |
14:24.52 | phearless | hello |
14:24.55 | phearless | i am back ;) |
14:28.27 | stephanb2 | formi: if you are keeping gnome, the login screen enables you to switch desktops |
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14:29.02 | stephanb2 | formi: the only tricky thing is if you install fc without gnome/kde |
14:42.53 | Leeds | there we go - 2 types of veggie curry, a pancake-like bread, a can of pop and return tram fare to CWB for just under £3 |
14:46.06 | morsing | Nice |
14:50.09 | Leeds | the place is called Curry-in-a-Hurry :-) |
14:56.26 | stephanb2 | Leeds: oh isn't that the tagline for Windows Vista ? |
14:56.36 | stephanb2 | oh no |
14:56.53 | stephanb2 | it's Security-in-a-Hurry |
14:59.52 | Leeds | http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/18/singapore-airlines-creating-electronic-heaven-for-passengers/ - who the hell managed to get *staroffice* installed as a selling point on Singapore Airlines' in-flight entertainment system? :-) |
15:01.00 | stephanb2 | Leeds: oh yeah baby, I play DivX and AC3 audio with Staroffice everyday |
15:01.05 | skugg | i don't know, but I want that person working for me when I start a company |
15:01.14 | Leeds | yeah, that's a *good* salesman |
15:02.28 | stephanb2 | but he wasn't told that tetris is only a Micro$oft Excel easter egg |
15:02.58 | Leeds | note that it does say it'll be in the A380 - so it's going to be SO version 12 by that point |
15:06.45 | wethrin | Blapto: Bah |
15:06.50 | stephanb2 | but by the time SO ver.12 is released the price of oil will have made the A380 a new concorde |
15:06.51 | sabinef72 | hello |
15:07.30 | stephanb2 | and Virgin Pacific will be running a set of Clippers to Hong Kong |
15:07.39 | stephanb2 | hello sabinef72 |
15:08.15 | Leeds | how is the price of oil going to make the A380 go supersonic? |
15:08.52 | stephanb2 | Leeds: it's rather going to make it overpriced |
15:10.00 | sabinef72 | stephanb2 ! |
15:10.35 | morsing | sabinef72! |
15:10.44 | sabinef72 | morsing ! |
15:23.30 | morsing | It's all very worrying |
15:25.26 | morsing | cbck |
15:27.08 | mozrat | :( daughter just phoned in uncontrollable tears (scared the shit out of me)..... cat just got squished running across the road as she got home from school |
15:27.15 | wethrin | ! |
15:27.17 | wethrin | Fuck :( |
15:27.19 | mozrat | it is an ex-cat |
15:28.45 | mozrat | apparently it was a women just down the road who hit the cat |
15:28.45 | mozrat | meh, this sucks |
15:28.50 | wethrin | Damn drivers |
15:33.48 | Leeds | mozrat: your cat? |
15:34.01 | Leeds | as opposed to some random neighbourhood cat... |
15:35.59 | mozrat | yeah |
15:44.09 | Leeds | ditto - and to $DAUGHTER |
15:45.31 | wethrin | Yes. Her too |
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16:03.45 | mozrat | thanks guys |
16:08.02 | serris | mozrat: Sorry, a bit late but I'm sorry to hear what happened |
16:26.04 | mozrat | serris, thanks |
16:26.21 | mozrat | i feel worse for daughter than cat to be honest |
16:26.39 | mozrat | i think when you're 9 you assume things dont generally die |
16:28.05 | Leeds | I stood on a rabbit - by accident - broke its jaw - had to be put down :-( |
16:29.48 | mozrat | just now? |
16:30.18 | Leeds | uh, no... when I was single-digit age |
16:30.30 | mozrat | ah, right. |
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17:25.58 | morsing | Check it! |
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18:38.23 | andrew___ | Hmm - sorry about that conent free line! |
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19:02.50 | sabinef72 | hi |
19:03.53 | sabinef72 | mozrat: you should wait a bit and find a new little cat for her |
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19:31.02 | morsing | Gunde! |
19:31.14 | morsing | sabinef72! |
19:33.29 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
19:45.33 | Gunde | morsing (: |
19:45.53 | morsing | (:? |
19:45.57 | Gunde | lefthanded |
19:46.15 | morsing | Ahh... |
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21:57.42 | xotl | isn't it a guy wearing a toupe? |