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06:53.21mozrathello
07:00.58morsingmozrat!
07:02.05mozrathallo
07:04.43morsingHow are the kids?
07:04.53mozratGood thanks :-)
07:05.00mozratGetting old
07:05.24mozrathttp://beerandspeech.org/tmp/img-1.jpg
07:05.32mozratOwl!!
07:06.44Leedscute
07:08.02mozratThanks :)
07:08.13mozratThat was about 6 months ago - they are bigger now
07:11.34morsingWhat?!
07:11.52mozratThat photo isn't very recent
07:12.30morsingThey go bigger?
07:12.52mozratOnly if you feed them
07:13.03morsingYou shouldn't feed them then :)
07:14.07mozratNo. they then become noisy
07:14.14mozratit is a fine balance
07:14.17morsingWhat's a good digital camera these days? I'm happy with my G3 but the pictures are blurry
07:14.24morsingNice
07:15.01LeedsI like the Ixus range, but they tend to blur at night because they go to a long exposure - the top-end one has image stabilisation now, I think
07:15.33morsingOk, I'm looking semi-pro £3-500
07:16.00morsingI don't understand wy my camera takes blurry photos though
07:16.04morsingh
07:16.43Leedsnot dslr though?
07:16.47morsingOk guys, here are some 'h's. Whenever I miss one out, just put it in
07:16.53morsinghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
07:17.05morsingdslr? Far too expensive
07:19.15Leedsyou can get them for *much* less than that, nowadays
07:23.21morsingLeeds: Uhmmm... No you can't
07:23.52morsingLenses alone is around £1200 - £1500
07:24.49Leedshttp://tinyurl.com/yhwwex is the ixus I was thinking of, anyway
07:25.09Leedsand you can get a body and lens for under £1000, quite easily
07:26.05morsingAnd that lens would be semi-poor quality and far from adeqaute if you want to take advantage of the SLR
07:27.15Leedsprobably - but you can still get it
07:27.22morsingWhy hasn't Skeletor emailed me yet...?
07:27.40Leedsthere is *something* between a £300 point'n'shoot and a £1500 dslr
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07:30.08morsingSlayerXP!
07:30.14SlayerXPmorning
07:34.43morsingibot skeletor
07:35.06morsingibot Skeletor is the wife of TwoSheds
07:35.07ibotmorsing: okay
07:35.09morsingibot skeletor
07:35.10ibotsomebody said skeletor was the wife of TwoSheds
07:35.16morsing:)
07:35.38morsingibot TwoSheds
07:35.47morsingibot TwoSheds is the lucky owner of two sheds
07:35.48ibotokay, morsing
07:35.50morsingibot TwoSheds
07:35.51ibottwosheds is probably the lucky owner of two sheds
07:36.05morsingthanks ibot
07:39.12Leedsibot twosheds is also a character in a Monty Python sketch
07:39.14ibotLeeds: okay
07:39.21morsingibot TwoSheds
07:39.22ibottwosheds is probably the lucky owner of two sheds, or a character in a Monty Python sketch
07:57.27sabinef72morning
08:05.12morsingsabinef72!
08:05.13sabinef72hi morsing
08:05.13murbmoin
08:08.08morsingmurb!
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08:10.05morsingErwin!
08:10.12Erwinmornig
08:11.23sabinef72who takes my sun today ? who ?
08:11.47mozratNot I. The weather is horrid here
08:16.17mozratmorning sabinef72
08:23.25sabinef72yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
08:23.36sabinef72that's good and you deserve a kiss
08:24.33morsing:)
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08:54.25morsingstephanb2!
08:59.02popeymozrat!
08:59.18popeynice collateral, passed to linux newbie in the office here. thanks
09:00.23mozratpopey: I'll be happy if it helps someone!
09:00.59mozratI had to remove the Monty Python pictures on the "Any Questions" slide at the end of each segment
09:01.02mozrat:-)
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09:29.22mozratCan anyone recommend a W32 log file joiner?
09:29.34morsingYes, w32_log_joiner.exe
09:30.01popeycopy
09:30.08popeycopy log1 + log2 log3 :)
09:32.43mozrat:)
09:33.04mozratdoesn't help when you want to avoid duplicating log entries when you keep merging them
09:34.59huw-lmozrat: how do windows people get work done without cat,sort,uniq etc?
09:36.04z0dhuw-l: They install cygwin...
09:36.12morsingz00dax!
09:36.12huw-lhah
09:37.11Leedsnow that's something I didn't expect... was given a scratchcard in the pub last week - one where you had to SMS in your name and the code - and I won... just got a call from them asking for my address so they could sent it to me
09:38.09Leedsthe competition is a joint Carlesberg/Liverpool FC one... the first prize, which I didn't win, was a trip to Liverpool... I can see a trip from Liverpool to HK being a big thing to win, but the other way around doesn't sound quite so exciting
09:42.16mozrathuw-l: seriously, I have no idea
09:42.24mozratAll of these W32 log tools are TERRIBLE
09:42.42mozratthey don't handle multiple log files...
09:42.53mozratWhy didn't these people use Apache?
09:44.04huw-lLeeds: presumably to HK natives Liverpool is mysterious and exotic.
09:44.16eyoreyes. how amusing :)
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09:52.01morsinggoibhniu!
09:52.17goibhniuhey morsing
09:55.41Leedshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6059026.stm - hmmm...
09:56.20Leedshuw-l: to be a little more serious - the prize is to go to Anfield, take three penalty shots during half-time in a match, and win lots of cash if you can get any (or all) in the net
09:56.43LeedsI could do with a trip to Liverpool, anyway - haven't been back since I graduated
10:13.27huw-lanyone got a reccomendation for a wiki that will talk to PAM for users and auth?
10:13.43huw-lpreferably without masses of patches to make it work
10:22.24morsingBaa#
10:57.36morsingMozzie?
11:11.49goibhniuhot dang ... it ain't possible to run IE with a java plugin under wine ... I hate it when something isn't possible :(
11:15.39mozratMorsing, are you going to the first or second day of the Expo next week?
11:16.25serrishi mozrat, morsing
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11:18.24BlaptoHi, anybody at the storage expo?
11:20.53wethrinHello. Not me.
11:21.03wethrinBut if you can grab me a nice RAID array...
11:22.48BlaptoI'll see if there are any free ones
11:25.02wethrincool
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11:41.50Leeds"According to the newspaper Ha'aretz, Intel Israel will hire 1,500 more staff in Israel by the end of 2007."
11:42.37Leeds"Most of the hiring is in the R&D sections in Haifa, Yakum and Kiryat Gat." - I'm not sure where Yakum is, but I know Haifa (it's a big big city) and I've been through Kiryat Gat a few times
11:44.45murbhow many of these sites arewithin missle range of lebanon?
11:45.45Leedsuh... both Haifa and Kiryat Gat are
11:47.33mozratserris!
11:48.06serrismozrat!
11:48.13serrisHow's it going?
11:48.22serrisAre you at LWE on both days?
11:52.42mozratYes!
11:53.54serrisGood good : )
11:54.12stephanb2Leeds: but Intel missiles are not very good
11:55.16mozratstephanb2: they are if you overclock them
12:02.57morsingMoo
12:07.28Leedsand it seems there's a good chance I'll be a landlord tomorrow
12:08.38stephanb2Leeds: in Hong Kong???
12:08.54Leedsno, in London
12:37.14morsingMooo
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12:38.11morsingformi!
12:38.13morsingserris_!
12:38.25serris_hi!
12:38.40formihello
12:40.12formiis it me or this channel seems populated
12:40.47formiI was trying to chase Leeds and/or Jason
12:42.10mozratLeeds is around, haven't seen jason in an age
12:42.15mozrator you.. for that matter :-)
12:42.29formiI don't quite do irc anymore
12:43.12formiI had to comit a cardinal sin and ended up playing with freenx
12:44.17formiso I decided to try a "graphical based" app with loads of text to check how the things performs
12:44.34mozratxchat?
12:44.53formithat wasn't the cardinal sin
12:45.17formiI had to install linux which I hadn't done for about 3 years
12:45.41mozratI see
12:46.43formithe amount of bloat on FC5 is not helpfull either
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12:49.05eyorewell we all want little twirly graphics and to be able to open MS word documents
12:50.19formidoes anybody know if there is an easy way of changing the desktop manager
12:50.20formi?
12:51.34formiLeeds, I still have the book
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12:52.42formiyou will need to refresh my memory about who is supposed to get it
12:52.42Leedsah...
12:53.58Leedsformi: Christian Smith
12:54.20formidoes he hang around here?
12:54.34Leedsno
12:55.07formido you know if there is any photo of him around?
12:55.35Leedsuh, probably, but no recent ones that I'm aware of
12:55.54Leedshow about I email the two of you and you can talk to each other?
12:56.33formiok
12:56.51formido you have my hk based email address?
12:57.13Copeformi is in hk?
12:57.50formiCope, my domain is hosted in hk, I am hosted somewhere else
12:58.04Leedssince when has your domain been hosted in HK? :-)
12:58.22formi2-3 years
12:58.28formirootr.net
12:59.14Leedshmm... you have no WHOIS
12:59.29formithat is the "provider"
12:59.48formiits- .net is mine
13:00.04formiyou can guess what goes in the empty space
13:00.10Leedshmm... that's odd - from my HK IP, there is no WHOIS for rootr.net but from the UK there is
13:01.18Leedsoh, they're in the Lippo Centre - I know the building... I pointed it out to some Yanks on the tram last nigh
13:01.48formiwell HK isn't that big is it?
13:02.07Leedsnope
13:02.19formiI guess it is like London that all the tech places are more or less clustered
13:02.24stephanb2formi: ure looking for a lighter desktop manager than gnome/kde on FC5?
13:02.32Leedsbut the Lippo Centre is the only building in town which is glass-fronted and made to look like it's got koala bears climbing up it...
13:03.01formistephanb2, i am looking towards having a "trouble free" swap between Gnome and fluxbox
13:03.17stephanb2formi: ouch
13:04.08Leedsformi: it was the Xinu book about Operating Systems, right?
13:04.34stephanb2formi: ive done this exercise before. i did a "minimal" FC4 install and then install fluxbox
13:05.16formiLeeds, yeap, I actually read part of it
13:06.42Leedscheck your mail...
13:07.05formiI had guessed that by installing fluxbox the entry would be added to the gdm login page
13:14.28Leedstime to go scavenging - try to find something like dinner
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13:31.23morsingJasperw!
13:31.24morsingOdd!
13:37.53morsinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Roe
13:41.23stephanb2formi: maybe this can help http://aleph-null.tv/go.php?doc=20040819-1137-374.xml
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13:45.52Blaptowethrin, no free RAID arrays :(
13:46.07formiI remenber I saw somebody using something like switchdesktop on fc3 but can't find anything similar for fc5
13:46.18BlaptoGot Hitachi sweets, Sun torches, stress balls and a first aid kit though
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13:52.15morsingGunde!
13:52.21GundeGood afternoon
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14:22.58morsingphearless!
14:24.52phearlesshello
14:24.55phearlessi am back ;)
14:28.27stephanb2formi: if you are keeping gnome, the login screen enables you to switch desktops
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14:29.02stephanb2formi: the only tricky thing is if you install fc without gnome/kde
14:42.53Leedsthere we go - 2 types of veggie curry, a pancake-like bread, a can of pop and return tram fare to CWB for just under £3
14:46.06morsingNice
14:50.09Leedsthe place is called Curry-in-a-Hurry :-)
14:56.26stephanb2Leeds: oh isn't that the tagline for Windows Vista ?
14:56.36stephanb2oh no
14:56.53stephanb2it's Security-in-a-Hurry
14:59.52Leedshttp://www.engadget.com/2006/10/18/singapore-airlines-creating-electronic-heaven-for-passengers/ - who the hell managed to get *staroffice* installed as a selling point on Singapore Airlines' in-flight entertainment system? :-)
15:01.00stephanb2Leeds: oh yeah baby, I play DivX and AC3 audio with Staroffice everyday
15:01.05skuggi don't know, but I want that person working for me when I start a company
15:01.14Leedsyeah, that's a *good* salesman
15:02.28stephanb2but he wasn't told that tetris is only a Micro$oft Excel easter egg
15:02.58Leedsnote that it does say it'll be in the A380 - so it's going to be SO version 12 by that point
15:06.45wethrinBlapto: Bah
15:06.50stephanb2but by the time SO ver.12 is released the price of oil will have made the A380 a new concorde
15:06.51sabinef72hello
15:07.30stephanb2and Virgin Pacific will be running a set of Clippers to Hong Kong
15:07.39stephanb2hello sabinef72
15:08.15Leedshow is the price of oil going to make the A380 go supersonic?
15:08.52stephanb2Leeds: it's rather going to make it overpriced
15:10.00sabinef72stephanb2 !
15:10.35morsingsabinef72!
15:10.44sabinef72morsing !
15:23.30morsingIt's all very worrying
15:25.26morsingcbck
15:27.08mozrat:( daughter just phoned in uncontrollable tears (scared the shit out of me)..... cat just got squished running across the road as she got home from school
15:27.15wethrin!
15:27.17wethrinFuck :(
15:27.19mozratit is an ex-cat
15:28.45mozratapparently it was a women just down the road who hit the cat
15:28.45mozratmeh, this sucks
15:28.50wethrinDamn drivers
15:33.48Leedsmozrat: your cat?
15:34.01Leedsas opposed to some random neighbourhood cat...
15:35.59mozratyeah
15:44.09Leedsditto - and to $DAUGHTER
15:45.31wethrinYes. Her too
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16:03.45mozratthanks guys
16:08.02serrismozrat: Sorry, a bit late but I'm sorry to hear what happened
16:26.04mozratserris, thanks
16:26.21mozrati feel worse for daughter than cat to be honest
16:26.39mozrati think when you're 9 you assume things dont generally die
16:28.05LeedsI stood on a rabbit - by accident - broke its jaw - had to be put down :-(
16:29.48mozratjust now?
16:30.18Leedsuh, no... when I was single-digit age
16:30.30mozratah, right.
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17:25.58morsingCheck it!
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18:37.58andrew___
18:38.23andrew___Hmm - sorry about that conent free line!
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19:02.50sabinef72hi
19:03.53sabinef72mozrat: you should wait a bit and find a new little cat for her
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19:31.02morsingGunde!
19:31.14morsingsabinef72!
19:33.29sabinef72hi morsing
19:45.33Gundemorsing (:
19:45.53morsing(:?
19:45.57Gundelefthanded
19:46.15morsingAhh...
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21:57.42xotlisn't it a guy wearing a toupe?

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