| 00:20.22 | serris | hi morsing |
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| 05:08.14 | serris | hi z00dax_mob |
| 05:08.30 | z00dax_mob | Hey serris, up early ? |
| 05:08.37 | serris | haven't slept yet |
| 05:08.49 | z00dax_mob | How had married life been treating you so far |
| 05:09.01 | z00dax_mob | S/had/has/ |
| 05:09.08 | serris | good : ) |
| 05:09.25 | serris | I'm currently trying to backup over 80GBs of data from my wife's PC |
| 05:09.35 | serris | her 300GB SATA drive is starting to make funky noises |
| 05:09.56 | serris | The other 300GB SATA drive she has just died on her |
| 05:11.22 | z00dax_mob | Drive noise is not a good sign |
| 05:12.27 | serris | nope |
| 05:12.32 | z00dax_mob | I m on a train , in the middle of nowhere, over edge 110k/sec link - oh amd this is in the middle of nowhere in India |
| 05:12.32 | serris | esp. when nothing on the drive is backed up |
| 05:12.33 | serris | :D |
| 05:12.43 | serris | sounds like fun |
| 05:12.54 | serris | I'm just sitting here wiating for the shops to open since I ran out of cigs |
| 05:14.06 | z00dax_mob | Cigs are bad |
| 05:14.48 | serris | That's ok |
| 05:16.14 | z00dax_mob | Are you trying to give up? |
| 05:17.52 | serris | nope |
| 05:18.35 | z00dax_mob | Damn! Why not ? |
| 05:18.55 | z00dax_mob | Did you just start recently |
| 05:18.57 | serris | I don't know.. I tried a few times but other than that I'm not really wanting to |
| 05:19.06 | serris | No, been smoking for a while now |
| 05:19.13 | serris | about 7 years |
| 05:21.52 | z00dax_mob | You should never give up wanting to give up. When you do is when you know you in the deep end. |
| 05:22.20 | z00dax_mob | I dont smoke :) never really have. But ive got lots of people to give up |
| 05:22.23 | serris | But I don't want to give up =/ |
| 05:29.48 | z00dax_mob | Deep end..... Dude |
| 05:29.58 | serris | I know :D It's great |
| 05:33.21 | z00dax_mob | For the tar and other shit you accumulate in your lungs, yes i am sure its great |
| 05:34.53 | serris | That's ok. Everyone's gotta die from something ; ) |
| 05:36.36 | z00dax_mob | Its not the dying, but the living that counts |
| 05:36.49 | z00dax_mob | For me anyway |
| 05:37.14 | serris | Same. And I'm happy living and smoking so ja |
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| 06:49.51 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:53.11 | Gunde | morning |
| 07:07.27 | serris | good morning morsing |
| 07:07.36 | morsing | serris! |
| 07:07.45 | serris | Lovely weather, isn't it? |
| 07:10.45 | morsing | No |
| 07:11.02 | serris | heh |
| 07:11.07 | morsing | It does help show peoples poor driving skills though |
| 07:11.07 | serris | It wasn't that bad at 6ish |
| 07:11.34 | morsing | I just don't feel sorry for people smashing up their cars on the way to work somehow... |
| 07:11.42 | serris | heh |
| 07:12.03 | serris | Indeed |
| 07:13.50 | serris | I'm just sitting here waiting for my wife's backups to finish. Her 300GB SATA drive started making funny noises so grabbing all the important info off it. One of her folders is all her graphics stuff, being 94000 files and 30GBs in size. |
| 07:14.21 | serris | This wouldn't be too bad if my file server wasn't a p200 with a 10Mbit card in it |
| 07:19.25 | morsing | Beer |
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| 07:37.46 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 07:38.15 | SlayerXP | morning |
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| 07:47.50 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 08:03.50 | Blapto | Morning |
| 08:07.23 | sabinef72 | morning all |
| 08:08.34 | Blapto | sabinef72! |
| 08:08.55 | sabinef72 | hi Blapto |
| 08:08.57 | sabinef72 | morsing !!!!!!!! |
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| 08:18.10 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:18.11 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 08:23.18 | sabinef72 | nooooooo |
| 08:23.46 | morsing | :) |
| 08:27.25 | Leeds | it's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere... |
| 08:28.17 | sabinef72 | cold in Hong Kong ? |
| 08:28.30 | Leeds | I'm all alone, more or less... |
| 08:29.01 | Leeds | sabinef72: it's a TV show theme tune :-) |
| 08:32.16 | morsing | Check it! |
| 08:48.17 | Blapto | goldfish shoals nibbling at your toes? |
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| 09:32.33 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 09:34.50 | mikejw | lo |
| 09:45.06 | morsing | Muyii |
| 09:46.43 | mikejw | pardon? |
| 09:47.00 | Blapto | argh, bloody vserver |
| 09:47.40 | murb | what is the problem? |
| 09:48.05 | Blapto | vserver centos4template build -m apt-rpm --hostname centos4template --interface domain=eth0:192.168.0.91/24 --initstyle sysv --context 500 --force -- -d centos42 |
| 09:48.15 | Blapto | E: Couldn't find package glibc |
| 09:49.35 | Blapto | maybe I should just stick to debian on debian... |
| 09:50.28 | Blapto | But my boss's friend insists that you can't have a non debian vserver on debian, so I'm mainly doing this to prove him wrong. |
| 10:02.02 | murb | i've certainly built centos filesystems on debian. |
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| 10:30.41 | Blapto | do you remember how you did it? |
| 10:35.58 | murb | yes with rpmstrap |
| 10:36.00 | murb | see http://hackers.progeny.com/~sam/rpmstrap/ |
| 10:37.00 | Blapto | I've installed that |
| 10:37.03 | Blapto | how do I actually use it |
| 10:37.32 | Blapto | although I might be getting somewhere with a yum install method :D |
| 10:48.46 | mozrat | Good Morning from Amsterdam |
| 10:49.51 | Blapto | good morning! |
| 10:50.09 | Blapto | I might be going to Amsterdam soon, we're thinking about putting some servers in a datacentre there. |
| 10:50.13 | serris | Isn't it 12:49PM in Amsterdam? |
| 10:50.16 | Blapto | Is that what you're there for by any chance? |
| 10:50.39 | murb | no it is 12:50 there. |
| 10:51.36 | mozrat | Oh, so then Good Afternoon from Amsterdam |
| 10:56.26 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 10:56.47 | mozrat | hi morsing |
| 10:57.36 | mozrat | WARNING: Do not stare at this image for too long (Safe for work) |
| 10:57.38 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/headache.gif |
| 11:02.09 | morsing | Fatal: Default image doesn't exist. |
| 11:06.31 | Blapto | I appear to have a very basic installation of centos |
| 11:06.46 | Blapto | so basic, it doesn't have rpm, yum, curl, wget, lynx |
| 11:16.05 | Blapto | no vi either! |
| 11:17.30 | mozrat | those tools are way overrated |
| 11:17.37 | mozrat | you should be editing files using cat and dd |
| 11:18.27 | Blapto | I was going to use a tiny magnet |
| 11:42.33 | keithlard_ | ho ho! |
| 11:43.22 | mozrat | yum! |
| 11:43.42 | mozrat | Apparently there are coffee shops in Amsterdam. Must have a look later |
| 11:44.08 | keithlard_ | it's fresh ground sumatran espresso |
| 11:44.14 | morsing | Mmm... Scotch eggs |
| 11:45.35 | keithlard_ | reely! |
| 11:45.55 | morsing | Yup :) |
| 11:46.05 | morsing | I only bought two copies though |
| 11:46.08 | keithlard_ | got any pics? |
| 11:46.10 | morsing | Might go get some more |
| 11:46.23 | morsing | keithlard_: Not online from the magazine |
| 11:46.33 | morsing | Or what was the question? |
| 11:47.03 | keithlard_ | ooh, xchat-gnome just popped an onscreen notify for that :> |
| 11:47.21 | morsing | What? |
| 11:47.28 | keithlard_ | what you said |
| 11:47.51 | keithlard_ | have you got any pictures of the car then |
| 11:47.54 | morsing | YEs |
| 11:48.21 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/billed.php?STED=Chevelle |
| 11:49.02 | keithlard_ | now that i've installed this illegal grey-market gaim2 package on ubuntu, gimmie integration is working nicely |
| 11:49.46 | keithlard_ | gimmie rocks! |
| 11:49.59 | morsing | What's gimmie? |
| 11:50.28 | keithlard_ | oh that's an awesome car! :D |
| 11:51.55 | keithlard_ | it's a gnome panel replacement, that looks more like the OS X dock, but it's smarter |
| 11:52.34 | keithlard_ | it remembers the apps and documents that you recently used, and integrates with Tomboy and Gaim and Nautilus and what not |
| 11:52.54 | keithlard_ | http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie |
| 11:54.30 | keithlard_ | it's from the same bloke who wrote Tomboy, which is also fantastic |
| 11:57.35 | Leeds | what's tomboy then? |
| 11:58.06 | Leeds | also, evening all |
| 11:58.47 | keithlard_ | it's a sticky notes app that thinks it's a wiki |
| 11:58.56 | keithlard_ | howdy! |
| 11:59.39 | Leeds | oh, that - ISTR thinking it was a very good idea |
| 11:59.50 | keithlard_ | http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ |
| 12:00.01 | keithlard_ | yeah, it's brilliant. i'm using it all the time now |
| 12:00.22 | keithlard_ | you can type 'remind today at 19:00' and have it pop up the note at the right time |
| 12:00.43 | keithlard_ | and drag emails and graphics into notes and things |
| 12:01.03 | keithlard_ | there's even some talk of a mediawiki backend so it actually *is* a wiki |
| 12:01.19 | Leeds | that's the one |
| 12:04.50 | keithlard_ | simple and genius |
| 12:15.39 | rhowe | keithlard_: Have you seen the amount of RAM it uses? |
| 12:16.11 | keithlard_ | hey, what's ram for :D |
| 12:16.30 | rhowe | ISTR it often getting stuck in a loop too, spinning on the CPU |
| 12:16.35 | rhowe | It uses mono |
| 12:32.30 | mikejw | if I had an office I'd make everyone use tomboy |
| 12:35.20 | keithlard_ | :D |
| 12:36.48 | wethrin | Hi |
| 12:39.08 | mikejw | wethrin: yo |
| 13:40.43 | morsing | Beer |
| 13:41.56 | morsing | piing wethrin |
| 14:00.57 | rhowe | hmm |
| 14:01.11 | rhowe | I think I just found a decent supplier for physical cabling, etc |
| 14:01.12 | rhowe | http://www.millsltd.com/ |
| 14:11.20 | Blapto | morsing, was it in a cisco 1700? |
| 14:11.54 | Blapto | and talking of cabling, does anybody have a rough idea of the cost of a fibre run between the docklands and reading? |
| 14:18.20 | cpufreak | do you need the fibre lit? |
| 14:18.24 | cpufreak | or do you want dark fibre? |
| 14:23.35 | Blapto | to be honest, I have no idea |
| 14:23.51 | Blapto | It would be for replicating a SAN array, so I'm guessing dark fibre |
| 14:26.06 | cpufreak | can the SANs not do replication over IP? |
| 14:27.35 | Blapto | it's not as fast |
| 14:28.33 | Blapto | HP reckon we'll get synchronous replication from the docklands to reading as long as we can get fibre with a latency below 10ms |
| 14:28.46 | cpufreak | sure, but its gonna be 120k+/yr I'd reckon |
| 14:29.19 | Blapto | Not much more than the Oracle licenses then |
| 14:29.29 | cpufreak | plus there's the whole shiznit with councils wanting tax for you traversing their ducting |
| 14:30.07 | murb | hah council rates for cable? |
| 14:30.13 | murb | or? |
| 14:31.01 | cpufreak | Blapto: why do you want to replicate to reading. |
| 14:31.46 | cpufreak | because if there's not fibre running from $fibreprovider -> the road outside your building |
| 14:31.54 | cpufreak | getting it run will be $$$$ |
| 14:32.14 | Blapto | There may well be, we'd be going into a datacentre in reading |
| 14:32.15 | cpufreak | why reading though |
| 14:32.24 | cpufreak | thats like going on holiday to birmingham |
| 14:32.28 | trousers | Hallo thar |
| 14:32.30 | Blapto | Because it's as close as possible whilst being acceptable to our insurers |
| 14:32.43 | Blapto | I know, I want to go to Amsterdam! |
| 14:32.53 | morsing | Blapto: No |
| 14:32.58 | Blapto | morsing? |
| 14:33.24 | cpufreak | really? FSA regs say DR sites just have to be >1KM or sommat |
| 14:33.38 | Blapto | We've got a number like 36 miles |
| 14:33.55 | cpufreak | so why not C+W's DC in park royal |
| 14:34.09 | cpufreak | also, I've a mate with a DC in southampton |
| 14:34.30 | cpufreak | which is def > 36 miles and is on net with most providers, so can probably sort out decent prices |
| 14:34.53 | Blapto | but reading is closer, quite popular and well connected |
| 14:35.00 | Blapto | And quite cheap as well |
| 14:35.01 | cpufreak | but still reading. |
| 14:35.08 | Blapto | I think we're paying about £1300/month just for power in redbus |
| 14:35.12 | Blapto | £450/8A |
| 14:35.35 | cpufreak | going back to my original point |
| 14:35.39 | cpufreak | why aren't you getting good speeds over IP |
| 14:36.03 | cpufreak | I've been testing datareplication over IP a lot in my current role |
| 14:36.21 | cpufreak | comparing different technologies, and different ways of making it happen faster |
| 14:37.11 | cpufreak | with the likes of VVR, or NetAPP snapmirror, or HDS trucopy, I've been able to saturate any link I give it |
| 14:37.41 | cpufreak | over links which simulate distance from UK to AU for example |
| 14:38.10 | cpufreak | this DC in reading though, is it ASUK/Dedipower? |
| 14:38.45 | morsing | 15:11 < Blapto> morsing, was it in a cisco 1700? |
| 14:39.35 | Blapto | Ah, right |
| 14:39.38 | Blapto | Sorry, was on the phone |
| 14:40.06 | wethrin | pong? |
| 14:40.11 | wethrin | er, morsing, pong |
| 14:40.18 | Blapto | We really want this data to be synchronous, if it's not we'll just go out to Amsterdam and have some fun with it |
| 14:40.53 | cpufreak | yes |
| 14:40.58 | cpufreak | VVR is syncronous |
| 14:40.59 | Blapto | And HP, amongst many others have assured us that if the latency is any higher than 10ms then just to forget about it |
| 14:41.22 | cpufreak | I've done it with 350ms |
| 14:41.26 | cpufreak | not with HP kit. |
| 14:41.47 | Blapto | Then there's either a huge performance hit, or the data doesn't exist on both spindles at the same time |
| 14:42.30 | cpufreak | it exists within 350ms |
| 14:43.00 | cpufreak | which is close enough for me to consider it synchronous |
| 14:43.03 | Blapto | at that point, we may as well just backup the oracle redo logs every 30 seconds |
| 14:43.12 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 14:43.47 | wethrin | yes? |
| 14:43.50 | wethrin | You pung me |
| 14:43.54 | wethrin | At 1441 |
| 14:43.59 | cpufreak | Blapto: thats with me simulating 350ms latency. the less latency, the quicker it exists ont he other end. |
| 14:44.07 | Blapto | OK |
| 14:44.17 | Blapto | but in the event of a distaster |
| 14:44.26 | Blapto | replicating databases like that could get a little hairy |
| 14:45.38 | cpufreak | hang on a second. surely it'd be far easier just to have offsite hotstandbys |
| 14:45.42 | cpufreak | in your DR site |
| 14:46.38 | cpufreak | rather than doing it at the disk layer. |
| 14:47.06 | morsing | wethrin: Yes but I can't remember why |
| 14:47.23 | Blapto | no, because we need the same dataset |
| 14:47.44 | wethrin | morsing: oh |
| 14:48.28 | cpufreak | so use shareplex or similar then |
| 14:49.05 | Blapto | I'll have a look |
| 14:49.41 | cpufreak | its what we use. |
| 14:49.50 | cpufreak | for our oracle replication |
| 14:50.51 | Blapto | what does it actually do |
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| 14:53.29 | cpufreak | I just checked with one of our DBAs who is ex Quest.. |
| 14:54.49 | cpufreak | it sits and watches redo logs on your db server, when entries come in, before they're read by oracle, it looks for queries its interested in (Eg update, insert, delete ..) and packages them up, sends them over TCP/UDP to your remote db server, and applies it as a SQL statement on the remote db server. |
| 14:55.06 | cpufreak | and its synchronous |
| 14:55.41 | cpufreak | and it scales well - oracle reckon our DB is the 4th busiest oracle db in the world...and its fine. |
| 14:59.21 | Blapto | That looks very interesting |
| 15:00.01 | cpufreak | cheaper than darkfibre too :) |
| 15:00.35 | cpufreak | and can send data to multiple places etc. |
| 15:00.38 | Blapto | I've been put in touch with someone who can give us darkfibre between the datacentre we're in now and one in reading for about £35kPA |
| 15:00.45 | Blapto | But Quest does look good |
| 15:00.50 | Blapto | any idea what the price entry point is |
| 15:01.51 | cpufreak | I've no idea, I'm insulated from pricing mostly here. |
| 15:02.12 | Blapto | ok |
| 15:02.28 | cpufreak | they're a good company to deal with though, so just give them a call |
| 15:03.57 | Blapto | Doing that now |
| 15:05.35 | Leeds | blood! |
| 15:08.37 | Leeds | nah, just a little pric |
| 15:08.41 | Leeds | k |
| 15:09.56 | murb | feeding your baby pet vamire? |
| 15:09.59 | murb | p |
| 15:21.15 | Blapto | cpufreak, do you have a contact in quest, so I don't have to talk to a mindless sales drone? |
| 15:21.36 | cpufreak | I'll ask the DBAs when they return |
| 15:21.41 | cpufreak | they seem to have gone to a team meeting |
| 15:21.42 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:29.02 | wethrin | ~change 147 EUR to USD |
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| 19:43.05 | wethrin | w00t |
| 19:52.57 | z00dax | hey wethrin |
| 19:53.28 | z00dax | btw, just so that everyone knows - indians make the best indian curry :) |
| 19:53.37 | z00dax | and my mom does an especially good job of it |
| 19:57.11 | z00dax | wethrin: i have 4 glass's of Blue Label down me today :) |
| 20:00.45 | serris | Hey z00dax |
| 20:01.06 | serris | I don't like curry : ( |
| 20:01.06 | z00dax | serris: ! |
| 20:01.51 | serris | I need to go shower then get to work. I'll talk to ya'll later |
| 20:01.55 | z00dax | cya |
| 20:07.23 | wethrin | z00dax: SMWS! Try some *real* whisky :) |
| 20:10.35 | z00dax | yes, one of these days... but the blue label was nice |
| 20:12.47 | wethrin | :) |
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| 22:04.36 | PinguKaos | evening all |
| 22:13.24 | wethrin | hello |
| 22:15.50 | PinguKaos | hello wethrin, hows you? |
| 22:19.52 | wethrin | I'm okay |
| 22:20.16 | PinguKaos | glad to hear it |
| 22:20.23 | wethrin | Watching stuff on tV |
| 22:20.46 | PinguKaos | aah, i've just spent the evening getting a wireless network up |
| 22:21.23 | PinguKaos | ubuntu didn't like the card I popped in it, finally got it working, hence I'm here |
| 22:22.22 | wethrin | fun |
| 22:22.31 | PinguKaos | just been watching the Ridley Scott interview on Newsnight, looks ok |
| 22:22.40 | PinguKaos | his new film that is |
| 22:23.07 | PinguKaos | yeah, 'twas, gonna have to find something else to break now :| |
| 22:23.20 | wethrin | Leave it a bit - it'll break itself |
| 22:23.30 | PinguKaos | yup...true heh |
| 22:24.33 | PinguKaos | I think the last time I was in here I was just starting Uni...good news, A few Nix labs, I'm a happy Student |
| 22:25.28 | wethrin | cool. Which Uni? Anmd how's it going? |
| 22:26.32 | PinguKaos | City over in Islington, it's going pretty well, got some business type modules next term tho, not looking forwards to them at all...heh |
| 22:27.02 | wethrin | Business stuff is overrated |
| 22:27.11 | PinguKaos | but they are pretty pro Open Source, so I spend a lot of times messing around with SUSE in there |
| 22:28.01 | wethrin | nice |
| 22:28.23 | PinguKaos | most certainly, I'm much happier with a bag of maths and a box of code to play with, guess it's just one of those things that I'll have to grit my teeth through |
| 22:29.19 | wethrin | True |
| 22:29.30 | wethrin | Don't you have any options? |
| 22:29.57 | PinguKaos | nope, all electives start next year :( |
| 22:30.03 | wethrin | bah |
| 22:31.01 | PinguKaos | theres 12 streams in the Informatics department so everyone in the first year sits tasters in most of them, suppose it's a bit of a leveller, after this year it's mostly all good |
| 22:31.17 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 22:31.59 | PinguKaos | but if I wanted business I'd have enrolled in CASS...ho hum |
| 22:33.40 | PinguKaos | anyways, as per usual, flying visit....got an early start tomorrow and a ....gulp....presentation....been good speaking to you, take care |
| 22:53.32 | *** join/#gllug psnl (i=psn@hades.eco.li) |
| 22:53.53 | psnl | oh, I fell off #gllug in th great freenode death |
| 22:56.22 | keithlard_ | z00dax! |
| 23:02.00 | wethrin | Hello! |
| 23:02.05 | wethrin | keithlard_: CURRY! |
| 23:02.17 | wethrin | We should get a #gllug group to go for curry some time |
| 23:02.23 | keithlard_ | i'm into that |
| 23:02.39 | keithlard_ | i just came from a sysops meeting held at the bengal lancer in kentish town ;D |
| 23:06.15 | wethrin | Oh, nice |
| 23:06.36 | wethrin | Was this the sysadmin SIG, or whatever it's called? |
| 23:07.16 | keithlard_ | no just wordtracker sysops (minus z00dax) |
| 23:08.28 | keithlard_ | hmm, has anyone built evolution from cvs? |
| 23:09.31 | wethrin | Building many things is an ordeal |
| 23:09.43 | wethrin | You work in the same place as z00dax? |
| 23:09.59 | keithlard_ | yup |
| 23:10.59 | wethrin | You incestuous bunch of #glluggers :-P |
| 23:11.14 | wethrin | Did you work at the same place as Cope some time back, then? |
| 23:11.31 | keithlard_ | yup :D |
| 23:11.57 | z00dax | work ? what work ? we just get together have a good time, party hard |
| 23:12.04 | z00dax | then go home to recoup, and start again |
| 23:12.06 | z00dax | keithlard_: ! |
| 23:12.13 | keithlard_ | hahaha that's pretty much it |
| 23:12.17 | keithlard_ | you forgot the curry |
| 23:12.28 | wethrin | Aha |
| 23:12.28 | z00dax | :( |
| 23:12.44 | wethrin | You've made me want curry now |
| 23:12.46 | wethrin | Fiends! |
| 23:12.51 | keithlard_ | i tried to get cope hired at wordtracker as well |
| 23:12.59 | keithlard_ | he didn't want to commute from hampshire :( |
| 23:13.21 | z00dax | i had some awesome curry tonight |
| 23:13.22 | wethrin | Silly fellow. Can I get a job next year while writing up my PhD? :) |
| 23:13.33 | z00dax | and i really need to go back ta sleep its almost 5am |
| 23:13.40 | keithlard_ | well we are looking for a sysadmin! |
| 23:13.46 | wethrin | But I suppose it's fair enough to not want to commute in from Hampshire. It's a bit far |
| 23:14.00 | wethrin | night z00dax |
| 23:14.01 | keithlard_ | z00dax> laterz |
| 23:14.01 | z00dax | cya all laterz! |
| 23:14.03 | wethrin | Cool |
| 23:14.54 | wethrin | If I can't find an academic job..... :-) |
| 23:17.23 | keithlard_ | what's your phd in? |
| 23:24.14 | wethrin | Organic electronics |
| 23:24.25 | wethrin | I'm building thin film transistors |
| 23:25.24 | keithlard_ | cool! |
| 23:30.13 | wethrin | When they work :) |
| 23:30.47 | keithlard_ | quite intresting anyway |
| 23:31.57 | wethrin | True. I just got a new process working |
| 23:32.05 | wethrin | So I can make a decent gate contact |
| 23:34.06 | keithlard_ | nice! |
| 23:38.34 | wethrin | yup. I'm getting what appear to be bias stress effects, so my source-drain current reduces. I'll have to do a test over time, really |
| 23:39.53 | keithlard_ | i did not understand that, but it sounds convincing |
| 23:40.23 | wethrin | Sorry :) |
