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| 00:38.40 | wethrin | AC! |
| 00:38.47 | angelchild | wethrin! |
| 00:39.04 | angelchild | or so-called |
| 00:39.24 | wethrin | Oh what fun |
| 00:39.28 | wethrin | I've been drinking |
| 00:39.31 | angelchild | hehe |
| 00:39.33 | wethrin | This seemed far more worthwhile |
| 00:39.40 | angelchild | I would have been drinking but I have very little money |
| 00:39.50 | angelchild | plus i went out last night, the night before and I'm out tomorrow too |
| 00:39.56 | wethrin | Get other people to buy you beer |
| 00:39.58 | wethrin | Hm |
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| 00:48.21 | wethrin | Heh |
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| 03:12.44 | Leeds | Erwin: hate to tell you, but it was B1 when I saw it |
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| 07:15.02 | sabinef72 | bonjour |
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| 07:26.47 | Leeds | Pixar really are geniuses |
| 07:27.29 | sabinef72 | hello Leeds |
| 07:30.11 | Leeds | afternoon |
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| 08:15.06 | cope | lo |
| 08:15.58 | sabinef72 | coucou cope |
| 08:20.57 | mozrat | Morning |
| 08:26.46 | sabinef72 | how are you mozzie ? |
| 08:26.55 | mozrat | good thanks!! |
| 08:29.36 | Gunde | all work done last night? |
| 08:30.47 | serris | morning all |
| 08:30.56 | mozrat | most of the work was done |
| 08:31.04 | serris | mozrat! |
| 08:31.09 | mozrat | hello! |
| 08:31.24 | sabinef72 | why everybody is so happy to see mozrat ? |
| 08:31.53 | serris | I'm just happy to be home finally without work boots on |
| 08:32.16 | mozrat | everyone is ALWAYS this happy to see me! |
| 08:32.24 | mozrat | Gunde - how are you today? |
| 08:32.31 | mozrat | how was dancing? |
| 08:32.39 | sabinef72 | mozrat: so I'm jalous |
| 08:33.02 | mozrat | everyone loves you too, don't worry |
| 08:33.02 | sabinef72 | jealous |
| 08:33.06 | sabinef72 | lool |
| 08:33.20 | sabinef72 | I was joking |
| 08:33.30 | serris | mozrat: I nearly ended up working Wednesday night =/ then I realised I'm at the linux expo |
| 08:33.46 | Gunde | Dancing was nice, still recovering from a sprained ankle though |
| 08:34.34 | mozrat | serris: Yeah, don't miss it |
| 08:34.40 | mozrat | Gunde: ouchy |
| 08:34.41 | serris | I won't : ) |
| 08:35.07 | serris | One of my mates needed Wednesday night off so I got asked if I could fill in for him. But had to decline cause of the expo ; ) |
| 08:35.22 | Gunde | mozrat: Not hurting, just have to be careful a bit. High heels can be dangerous (: |
| 08:35.55 | mozrat | Gunde: Apparently so. Why don't women wear sensible flat shoes like men do? |
| 08:36.03 | mozrat | do you really require big heels? |
| 08:36.08 | serris | lol |
| 08:37.44 | Gunde | mozrat: Actually ballroom dancing is easier on high heels than flat ones. And it adjusts me easier to the guys who are usually taller than me. I inherited them from my mother, she didnt need them as her partner now is smaller than my father. |
| 08:38.21 | mozrat | Gunde: how tall are you then? |
| 08:38.39 | Gunde | 163 cm |
| 08:39.14 | Gunde | But dont worry, I dont usually wear them. |
| 08:40.08 | Gunde | hmm, maybe a good time now to introcuce myself to the people here? |
| 08:40.25 | mozrat | http://youtube.com/watch?v=8QiIU0Tun3I |
| 08:40.37 | mozrat | Gunde, we already know you are 163cm tall.. is there anything else? |
| 08:40.50 | mozrat | ibot gunde is 163cm tall (in high heels) |
| 08:40.58 | ibot | okay, mozrat |
| 08:40.58 | Gunde | no, without high heels |
| 08:41.03 | mozrat | ha! too late |
| 08:41.11 | Gunde | lol |
| 08:41.23 | mozrat | ibot sabinef72 |
| 08:41.25 | ibot | methinks sabinef72 is an hour ahead, or a lady in the future, or full name Sabine PAPILLAULT, or 72 yeard old, or a little old lady |
| 08:41.34 | sabinef72 | heyyyyyyyyy |
| 08:41.37 | sabinef72 | that's not true ! |
| 08:41.49 | mozrat | sabinef72: it must be true.. ibot says so |
| 08:41.55 | sabinef72 | stupid ibot |
| 08:41.56 | mozrat | Gunde, introduce yourself then! |
| 08:42.23 | sabinef72 | Gunde: be careful.... |
| 08:42.42 | Gunde | Hmm, what else is there? I am German, used to live in Berlin, am working at Cambridge university now for two years and stumbled into this group after I went to a linux course that had Xander as instructor. |
| 08:42.47 | Leeds | Gunde: who are you, where are you, and which distro do you use? :-) |
| 08:43.01 | sabinef72 | my god a geek woman !!!!! |
| 08:43.16 | Leeds | Gunde: what work? |
| 08:44.12 | Gunde | Leeds: FC4 and RH4 at work. Official title of my position: Computer Associate. Until I came here I had no clue what that actually means, but I applied for it anyway. |
| 08:44.26 | mozrat | hey Leeds! |
| 08:44.40 | Gunde | sabinef72: In what sense geek? |
| 08:44.49 | Leeds | afternoon mozzie |
| 08:45.24 | Leeds | Gunde: so technical rather than academic? |
| 08:45.33 | sabinef72 | a geek is someone a little bit... crazy about computer |
| 08:45.33 | cope | :0 |
| 08:45.50 | mozrat | hey cope, did you fix your SUSE woes yesterday? |
| 08:45.53 | Leeds | Gunde: for your information, I'm an unemployed ex-bra manucturer and Solaris kernel developer in Hong Kong :-) |
| 08:45.56 | mozrat | I SMS'd you! |
| 08:45.59 | Gunde | Before coming here I went to something like IT school, and now I can name myself something that could be freely translated to English as "IT specialist for systems integration" although it probably doesnt make much sense. |
| 08:46.22 | Gunde | Leeds: Yes, definitely not academic. |
| 08:47.01 | Gunde | And it seems that at work I am the only one who hasn't finished studying or even has a PhD. |
| 08:47.24 | serris | Hmm... other way around at my job. I seem to be the only one that went to school... at all |
| 08:47.50 | Gunde | I meant rather university studies. |
| 08:47.57 | Leeds | I discovered this afternoon that my trainer at the gym has an IT degree and spent a year at EDS doing support before giving up and becoming a trainer |
| 08:48.00 | serris | That too |
| 08:48.38 | Gunde | And before IT school I spent one year studying medicine, five years studying interpreting (Russian and French) and two years working in tech support for PSINet Germany. |
| 08:48.38 | serris | I have an IT tech qualification and a Network Management qualification and currently I'm applying for a Heathrow Security Officer position |
| 08:49.13 | Gunde | I was a bit surprised that my boss here actually has a PhD in ecology. |
| 08:49.34 | Gunde | What is EDS? |
| 08:50.06 | Leeds | a very very large internation IT consultancy company - well-known in the UK for screwing up huge government contracts |
| 08:50.14 | Gunde | Leeds: I take it the unemployed bit applies only to the bra manufacturing, not to the kernel developing? |
| 08:50.45 | Leeds | unemployed in the sense of not having a job... |
| 08:51.43 | Gunde | Leeds: Yes, but are you still unemployed and doing the developing in HK just for fun and on your own? |
| 08:52.38 | Leeds | I have previously been employed as a Solaris kernel developer. I have previously been employed as (well, by) a bra manufacturer. I am currently unemployed and looking for work in HK |
| 08:54.15 | Gunde | Did you go there specifically to look for a job, or had you been working there already before getting unemployed? |
| 08:55.31 | Leeds | nope, I came here to make bras last year... that fell though, so I came back a couple of weeks ago to find something new... |
| 08:55.33 | Leeds | (shower time) |
| 08:58.58 | Gunde | ibot mozrat |
| 08:59.00 | ibot | somebody said mozrat was a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker, or morsing, or completelylylyl pissed |
| 08:59.40 | Gunde | ibot xander |
| 08:59.41 | ibot | from memory, xander is xander@root.ms ;) |
| 08:59.48 | Gunde | hmm |
| 08:59.53 | Gunde | ibot harkness |
| 09:00.09 | Gunde | not very informative there. |
| 09:01.45 | sabinef72 | mozrat: I need my corrector....... |
| 09:19.07 | Gunde | sabinef72: So doesnt the "a bit crazy about computers" apply to most people here? |
| 09:19.19 | sabinef72 | all except me |
| 09:19.55 | sabinef72 | I'm the exception |
| 09:19.59 | Gunde | How did you end up here? |
| 09:20.18 | sabinef72 | it's mozrat's fault |
| 09:20.24 | serris | I feel drunk. I can't remember any of my qualifications |
| 09:21.25 | Gunde | serris: Search for a CV of yours and look them up? |
| 09:21.34 | serris | wish I knew where my CV was |
| 09:21.36 | Gunde | sabinef72: How so? |
| 09:21.54 | sabinef72 | Gunde: He found be on another channel and invited me there |
| 09:21.59 | Gunde | serris: online, on your hdd, backed up, printed out? |
| 09:22.00 | serris | wonderful |
| 09:22.08 | serris | I just realised what I did with my CV 2 days ago |
| 09:22.14 | serris | Deleted it thinking I won't need it anytime soon.. |
| 09:25.44 | Gunde | breakfast time... |
| 09:34.01 | Leeds | I need to work on my CV tomorrow... need it to be distributable on Monday morning |
| 09:34.23 | serris | I lost the physical copies of mine |
| 09:34.52 | Leeds | I have phsyical copies from a few years back, and a very rough electronic one from a couple of months back |
| 09:40.11 | Erwin | Leeds: Hmm, I guess it could be anything X-1. B, D, C etc. |
| 09:44.36 | Leeds | Erwin: anything which makes a word, I would think |
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| 09:54.20 | LeedsTreo | so... three noticable things outside: a fire across the main road, with lots of fire engines, police and ambulances... for some reason a lot of flags up in the market... and a marked lack of trams on my loop |
| 10:10.36 | z00dax | People of the world! |
| 10:10.45 | z00dax | sabinef72: no, i am in India, have been for a few days now |
| 10:11.34 | sabinef72 | z00dax: waouhhhhhh. Do you enjoy time in India ? |
| 10:17.29 | z00dax | oh yea - its been lots of fun so far |
| 10:17.38 | z00dax | and today is diwali, i cant wait for the evening, and the fireworks! |
| 10:20.20 | mozrat | Happy Diwali z00dax |
| 10:20.23 | z00dax | hey mozrat ! thanks |
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| 11:49.44 | hali | ~change 20 AUD to USD |
| 12:04.51 | mozrat | anyone look after Exchange 2003 servers here? |
| 12:05.21 | mozrat | If you do, they will decide to revert to GMT time on Monday morning, a full week before the rest of the country |
| 12:05.29 | mozrat | hotfix is available. Microsoft suck. EOM |
| 12:16.30 | popey | heh |
| 12:16.38 | popey | yeah, we have exchange at work |
| 12:16.53 | popey | in fact they have pretty much everything microsoft |
| 12:17.10 | popey | very difficult to convince them that sometimes, just *sometimes* there are better alternatives |
| 12:17.59 | popey | my fave was when the production mssql server became corrupt, and the corruption made its way via the transaction logs which were shipped to another machine to the standby database |
| 12:18.05 | popey | "that shouldn't happen" |
| 12:18.12 | popey | yeah, thanks microsoft |
| 12:18.22 | popey | they never gave us an answer as to how the hell that happened |
| 12:19.24 | cope | so, I want to install some suse packages over http; but amazingly yast isn't populated with servers!? Am I just supposed to *know* them? |
| 12:23.18 | mozrat | cope, pretty much |
| 12:23.29 | mozrat | is this for SLES or the opensuse branch? |
| 12:23.34 | mozrat | popey: Good Morning to you sir |
| 12:24.01 | mozrat | cope, I would recommend installing "smart" |
| 12:24.14 | mozrat | smart comes with a list of repos.. saves you hunting around for them |
| 12:24.36 | mozrat | http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-install-and-use-smart-on-suse.html |
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| 12:56.42 | keithlard_ | hi folks! |
| 12:56.47 | keithlard_ | ooh cope |
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| 13:07.12 | eeyore | is there any good way to test what a servers connection speed is other than downloading random files |
| 13:07.28 | eeyore | I suspect this server that should be on a 100mpbs port but is actually on a 10mbps port |
| 13:07.36 | eeyore | is there any reliable way to check. |
| 13:10.09 | z00dax | eyore: download from a machine close by |
| 13:10.10 | z00dax | keithlard_: ! |
| 13:10.39 | z00dax | eyore: what sort of speeds do you get downloading from kernel.org ? |
| 13:10.47 | keithlard_ | what up! |
| 13:12.28 | z00dax | eyore: try this : http://centos.intergenia.de/4.4/isos/i386/CentOS-4.4.ServerCD-i386.iso |
| 13:12.38 | z00dax | you should get 4MiB/sec+ |
| 13:12.51 | z00dax | keithlard_: tired already :) been out and about all day so far, the fun is yet to begin really |
| 13:13.08 | keithlard_ | wizzo! :D |
| 13:13.12 | keithlard_ | lots of fireworks here |
| 13:13.24 | z00dax | yea? |
| 13:13.32 | z00dax | already? kinda early out there... |
| 13:13.48 | z00dax | they are just warming up out here, it only sounds like a sporadic gunfight |
| 13:13.55 | keithlard_ | i never knew finchley was so hindu, you know? |
| 13:14.03 | z00dax | me neither |
| 13:14.22 | z00dax | but Sikh's and Tamil's also have a diwali celebration - for very different reasons than the Hindu's |
| 13:14.34 | keithlard_ | reely! |
| 13:15.12 | keithlard_ | well i love multi culturalism. it means we get everyone's festivals :D |
| 13:15.45 | z00dax | true! |
| 13:16.10 | eeyore | i can get about 1.8megabytes/second tops |
| 13:16.16 | eeyore | maybe 1.9 |
| 13:16.20 | keithlard_ | i'm looking forward to Eid! :D |
| 13:18.02 | eeyore | my brother is going to a diwali celebration this evening, he's wondering are you suppose to bring anything? :) |
| 13:18.31 | z00dax | eeyore: thats faster than 10MiB/sec - but maybe contention getting in the way |
| 13:18.50 | z00dax | the intergenia.de link is 2GiB/sec to .de machines... so its unlikely to be a bottleneck at their end |
| 13:19.05 | eeyore | really? I thought that was about the same as a saturated 10megatbit line |
| 13:19.10 | z00dax | eeyore: a box of sweets or some deserts and fireworks :) |
| 13:19.10 | keithlard_ | at one place i worked they said we've a lot of muslims and indians ekcetera working here, so obviously we don't want any prejudiced behaviour... i said are you kidding? how could i be a racist when i practically live on curry? :D |
| 13:19.22 | keithlard_ | they did not see the humour though |
| 13:19.28 | z00dax | :D |
| 13:19.59 | z00dax | pretty much everyone gets fireworks and booze |
| 13:20.12 | z00dax | but again, depends on the hosts i suppose |
| 13:20.15 | keithlard_ | is your car still full of fireworks? |
| 13:20.36 | z00dax | no, i removed those about a month back |
| 13:21.39 | z00dax | my insurance guys would not have liked it much... had something happened and the investigator found a boot load of fireworks in the car |
| 13:25.55 | keithlard_ | hehehe |
| 13:27.48 | eeyore | maybe i could try a bittorrent client to see if i can saturate it that way |
| 13:30.16 | z00dax | eeyore: run 4 or 5 iso downloads from intergenia at the same time and then watch the interface stats ? |
| 13:30.25 | z00dax | irc on the phone ++ |
| 13:30.29 | Erwin | Finally, Ubuntu is installed "on top" of my ex-Debian partition and working |
| 13:30.43 | eeyore | I'm trying with some files from a machine in the same data center |
| 13:30.56 | eeyore | still can't get over 2Megabytes/sec |
| 13:31.02 | Erwin | My first installed used the existing /boot and triggered a weird error: 2.6.18 kernel installed with no modules so the mouse didn't work (rather than the 2.6.15 kernel). I'm not sure how that was possible. |
| 13:31.45 | z00dax | ok, people here, i am now off |
| 13:32.11 | Leeds | have fun |
| 13:34.29 | keithlard_ | is there a good resource which explains why iptables/netfilter is just as good as a branded firewall box? |
| 13:35.13 | keithlard_ | i'm trying to convince my boss to dump the 6K/year nokia appliance and use the linux box itself as the firewall |
| 13:45.25 | mozrat | I think the problems are related to "engineer under a bus" syndrome rather than not being technically capable |
| 13:45.59 | mozrat | plus.. how do you manage a network full of iptables machines? Nokia and Cisco have management apps on top of the appliances |
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| 13:48.23 | mozrat | hello david_ |
| 13:48.40 | david_edmundson | hey mr mozrat |
| 13:50.16 | david_edmundson | have you seen the screencast for songbird? |
| 13:50.26 | david_edmundson | it's the funniest thing I have seen this month |
| 13:50.54 | david_edmundson | http://www.songbirdnest.com/screencast |
| 13:51.16 | david_edmundson | the dude get's _very very /very/_ excited about the fact you can change the volume |
| 14:10.02 | keithlard_ | hehe |
| 14:10.46 | keithlard_ | mozrat> we already do manage a network of iptables boxes. we don't have access to the isp firewall itself, we have to go through a ticket system and wait for them to take their sweet time. |
| 14:27.27 | trousers | david_edmundson: It doesn't seem that special... |
| 14:28.55 | david_edmundson | "and Oi! here it is! " |
| 14:29.16 | david_edmundson | I'm fairly sure the voiceover has the phrase "y'all" in it too |
| 14:29.34 | david_edmundson | the actual app looks rubbish |
| 14:29.48 | trousers | I almost thought it was a film of Sebastian Faulks' boook Birdsong >.< |
| 14:29.50 | david_edmundson | it's a direct clone of iTunes so won't chagne any windows users, and Linux has enough already |
| 14:30.18 | keithlard_ | there are already itunes killers like quodlibet and amarok |
| 14:30.59 | david_edmundson | but amarok doesn't use the word "Oi!" in a screencast |
| 14:31.09 | david_edmundson | or have the cheesiest tag line ever |
| 14:31.20 | trousers | "In a world gone mad..." - Err... |
| 14:31.28 | david_edmundson | "One media player stands tall" |
| 14:32.35 | trousers | To get to Olympia do you have to change at Earls Court? |
| 14:34.12 | mozrat | trousers: yes |
| 14:35.44 | trousers | mozrat: Are you going to be there on Wed + Thurs? |
| 14:35.49 | mozrat | trousers: yes sir |
| 14:36.01 | trousers | Oooh, sir *embarrassed* |
| 14:36.11 | trousers | Where abouts is the GLLUG stall? |
| 14:36.25 | mozrat | I actually have an exact map.... but it is in the .org village |
| 14:36.40 | trousers | There's a village? |
| 14:36.47 | mozrat | you don't need the map - go to the village (which is the place with less sales bullshit and shine) and look at the signs |
| 14:36.58 | trousers | Ah, right, marvellous |
| 14:37.04 | trousers | Also, FOSDEM is looking hopeful :) |
| 14:37.11 | mozrat | really? cool |
| 14:37.21 | mozrat | you parents don't mind you disappearing abroad? |
| 14:37.44 | trousers | My dad said I can go only if he goes with me - but he doesn't mind as he's quite nerdy in his own respect |
| 14:38.05 | mozrat | He sounds cool |
| 14:39.16 | trousers | He doesn't use Linux... Yet. |
| 14:40.01 | trousers | How good is FOSDEM, though? |
| 14:40.07 | trousers | And ~how many people are there/ |
| 14:40.09 | trousers | ? |
| 14:41.21 | mozrat | very good apparently |
| 14:41.31 | mozrat | never been myself but the videos that come out of it look awesome |
| 14:41.37 | mozrat | have you watched any of them? |
| 14:42.01 | david_edmundson | when is fosdem? |
| 14:42.34 | mozrat | http://free-electrons.com/community/videos/conferences |
| 14:42.41 | trousers | 24+25/02/07 |
| 14:42.49 | mozrat | http://www.fosdem.org/2007 |
| 14:43.00 | david_edmundson | ooh weekend |
| 14:43.28 | mozrat | Spot anything wrong with this article? http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/10/21/kids-say-thank-you-edubuntu-team/ |
| 14:44.49 | trousers | "Nursery" is spelt wrong |
| 14:45.04 | david_edmundson | repeatedly wrong |
| 14:45.10 | trousers | "Superb" is spelt wrong |
| 14:45.45 | david_edmundson | random capitalisation in the last sentence |
| 14:46.26 | trousers | "We've" - no apostrophe. Unnecessary capitals. "School" spelt wrong. |
| 14:46.40 | mozrat | yeah, shocking |
| 14:46.46 | mozrat | nice picture and everything but... |
| 14:46.56 | david_edmundson | and a comment from Jono Bacon |
| 14:47.09 | trousers | Not meaning to be a pedant :) It's just my instinct |
| 14:47.43 | trousers | Or nature, rather |
| 14:48.46 | david_edmundson | hopefully use of edubuntu will straighten that out. |
| 14:49.18 | mozrat | `which ispell` |
| 14:54.59 | trousers | What's the video equivalent of Audacity? |
| 14:57.19 | mozrat | ping 172.22.176.242 |
| 14:57.20 | Leeds | trousers: cinerrala? |
| 14:57.24 | trousers | Cheers |
| 14:57.27 | mozrat | wait, who put that window there? |
| 14:57.34 | trousers | I did >:) |
| 14:57.53 | mozrat | can anyone else ping that address? I don't seem to be able to :( |
| 14:58.00 | mozrat | I think we have a VPN down somewhere |
| 14:58.09 | trousers | Nothing. |
| 14:58.23 | mozrat | silly you |
| 14:58.30 | trousers | 13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12016ms |
| 14:58.41 | mozrat | (it's an internal range anyway) |
| 14:58.52 | Leeds | trousers: except it's actually called Cinelerra |
| 14:58.56 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 14:59.28 | Leeds | morsing& |
| 14:59.38 | trousers | Leeds: aptitiude can't find it :o |
| 15:00.55 | Leeds | that's a fucking stupid thing to say |
| 15:01.26 | trousers | Hmm? |
| 15:01.32 | Leeds | nothing personal, but that's one of the phrases which really pushes my buttons |
| 15:01.40 | trousers | Why? |
| 15:02.10 | Leeds | because people relying on their packaging system to that extent really annoys me |
| 15:02.40 | trousers | I was just saying... I'm going to get the source/package right now anyway :'( |
| 15:02.45 | morsing | mozzie! |
| 15:02.54 | Leeds | if you'd have said "aptitude can't find it - so it's off to google" that would have been fine, but what you said *implied* that the second phrase would have been "so I can't find/install/use it" |
| 15:03.22 | trousers | Oh, fair enough |
| 15:03.38 | trousers | But package managers are there to make things easier, not there to do everything... |
| 15:05.17 | Leeds | they are tools of the devil |
| 15:05.32 | trousers | I wouldn't go that far... |
| 15:10.48 | keithlard_ | avidemux is quite nice |
| 15:10.58 | keithlard_ | if you want a simple cut-n-paste video editor |
| 15:11.18 | keithlard_ | cinelerra is the thing for full-on movie making, but there's quite a learning curve |
| 15:12.18 | Leeds | keithlard_: I would say it's the closest thing to audacity for video though |
| 15:13.02 | keithlard_ | yes, it's not quite so easy to just jump in and go though like it is with audacity |
| 15:13.18 | Leeds | true |
| 15:37.16 | Leeds | www.yesnomayb.hk |
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| 16:57.44 | mozrat | hello! |
| 17:11.59 | mozrat | Leeds: any good RSS reader modules? |
| 17:13.02 | mozrat | umm |
| 17:13.10 | mozrat | Python rss reader modules that is |
| 17:13.35 | mozrat | there don't seem to be any in the main python distribution |
| 17:24.13 | morsing | Beer |
| 17:25.06 | mozrat | morsing! |
| 17:25.15 | morsing | Coffee |
| 17:25.19 | morsing | ibot beer |
| 17:25.30 | ibot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 17:25.43 | morsing | :D :D :D |
| 17:25.52 | morsing | ...reset by beer!?! |
| 17:26.08 | morsing | ibot beer |
| 17:26.10 | ibot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 17:26.22 | morsing | ibot coffee |
| 17:27.10 | morsing | mozrat? |
| 17:28.38 | mozrat | you broke ibot |
| 17:29.06 | morsing | How? |
| 17:30.44 | cope | yo |
| 17:31.18 | mozrat | Cope! |
| 17:31.22 | mozrat | did you install smart? |
| 17:31.32 | cope | not yet - tell me more about it |
| 17:31.37 | cope | only just got home |
| 17:31.43 | cope | been out doing country things |
| 17:31.53 | mozrat | smart is a slow bloated version of apt |
| 17:32.08 | mozrat | but mucho betterer than trying to manage software using YaST |
| 17:32.09 | cope | okay |
| 17:32.15 | cope | sounds plausible |
| 17:32.25 | cope | why is suse's package management so poor? |
| 17:32.34 | mozrat | I dunno, but it really is |
| 17:32.49 | mozrat | I quite value YaST as I work in an office where Linux skillz are light on the ground |
| 17:33.03 | mozrat | and it allows non-competent people to do basic things |
| 17:33.12 | mozrat | but - software management in SUSE sucks |
| 17:33.33 | mozrat | especially when you buy SLES and then learn there are no publically accessible repos |
| 17:33.38 | cope | yeah |
| 17:33.39 | mozrat | there is for opensuse |
| 17:33.43 | cope | hrm ok |
| 17:33.47 | cope | i have 9.3 |
| 17:33.58 | cope | which may be old by today's standards |
| 17:34.11 | mozrat | quite old |
| 17:35.45 | mozrat | cope, what are you trying to do to it? |
| 17:36.47 | cope | oh well i have a "default" install |
| 17:37.03 | cope | i want to add some packages |
| 17:37.12 | cope | eg i lack gcc |
| 17:37.19 | mozrat | I see |
| 17:38.38 | mozrat | well.. `rpm -Uvh http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-14.guru.suse93.i686.rpm` should sort you out |
| 17:38.47 | mozrat | if you have python-rpm already installed |
| 17:40.09 | cope | hrm 2 ticks; i appear not to have gpm running |
| 17:43.30 | cope | no |
| 17:43.36 | cope | i appear not to have pythonrpm |
| 17:43.39 | cope | where do i get that? |
| 17:43.41 | cope | same place? |
| 17:47.13 | Leeds | mozrat: the universal feed reader no good for you? |
| 17:47.33 | cope | i like the idea of universal food |
| 17:48.51 | cope | william is getting very excited by a book about dinosaurs |
| 17:49.05 | keithlard_ | cope! |
| 17:49.39 | cope | hi keithlard_ |
| 17:50.55 | keithlard_ | what's happening? |
| 17:52.43 | morsing | Check it! |
| 17:52.55 | cope | corin is playing the piano, atty is throwing carbonara around, william is reading about dinosaurs, helena is reading new scientist, I am cooking and drinking wine |
| 17:53.02 | keithlard_ | brilliant :D |
| 17:53.18 | morsing | Nice |
| 17:53.21 | keithlard_ | did you see my picture of meg and liz? |
| 17:53.30 | keithlard_ | when we went to the playground last weekend |
| 17:53.40 | cope | no |
| 17:53.44 | cope | it it on your blog? |
| 17:54.25 | keithlard_ | yes it's friends only |
| 17:54.34 | cope | oh |
| 17:54.49 | cope | i don't think my account is on your list |
| 17:54.55 | cope | not that i can remember how to do it |
| 17:55.32 | cope | morsing: woo |
| 17:55.47 | keithlard_ | http://www.splange.f2s.com/pics/liz/liz-and-meg.jpg |
| 17:56.07 | cope | hrm; this requires me starting X |
| 17:56.09 | keithlard_ | it was very early in the morning :O |
| 17:56.21 | keithlard_ | children seem to wake up dangerously early |
| 17:56.29 | cope | they do |
| 17:56.36 | keithlard_ | what's wrong with them? |
| 17:56.52 | cope | as evidence of how much i hate kde, i'm running at run level 2 |
| 17:57.05 | keithlard_ | don't they realise you're not supposed to arise until about 11 when it's time for espresso and the papers, followed by a leisurely full english breakfast |
| 17:57.32 | keithlard_ | haven't you got an svga image viewer? |
| 17:59.42 | cope | groovy |
| 17:59.53 | cope | keithlard_: i have no idea how to get *anything* |
| 18:00.05 | cope | i feel like i've installed $alien_os |
| 18:00.38 | keithlard_ | go ubuntu! it's like a debian that works! :D |
| 18:01.07 | cope | i was given this |
| 18:01.12 | cope | so i am stuck with it |
| 18:01.24 | keithlard_ | you make it sound like a venereal disease |
| 18:01.48 | keithlard_ | perhaps you could try sponging the affected parts with salt water, or using a topical cream |
| 18:02.46 | cope | ;) |
| 18:03.05 | cope | i admit i have made no effort at all to actually hack at it or apply leet geeky skillz |
| 18:03.13 | cope | but these days I feel lazy |
| 18:03.37 | morsing | Which date is the third Sunday in November? |
| 18:03.41 | cope | other things "just work" - i gave up fucking about with things after install about 5 years ago with prehistoric slackware |
| 18:03.47 | Gunde | morsing: 19. |
| 18:04.04 | morsing | Thank - cal told me as well |
| 18:04.08 | cope | rar cal |
| 18:04.08 | keithlard_ | why are you stuck with suse? just pop an ubuntu dvd in there |
| 18:04.38 | cope | isn't there a very new one out? |
| 18:04.43 | cope | there isuyally is in oct |
| 18:05.02 | keithlard_ | it's my current favourite for 'just-work-ness' |
| 18:05.12 | cope | debian "just works" for me |
| 18:05.51 | keithlard_ | evidently, which is why you're not using it |
| 18:06.24 | cope | no, i am using suse on a work laptop because i was given it as an approved tool |
| 18:06.32 | cope | otherwise i would be using debian |
| 18:07.08 | keithlard_ | did you talk them out of using clearca$$$e? |
| 18:07.34 | cope | oh i am not sure |
| 18:07.38 | morsing | Baa |
| 18:07.39 | cope | i think i made a strong case |
| 18:07.43 | cope | hello morsing |
| 18:08.47 | morsing | cope! :) |
| 18:12.47 | cope | pervert |
| 18:13.24 | cope | morsing: i have a meeting with a wizzo aix guru on friday |
| 18:23.32 | eye69 | Hey folks |
| 18:23.45 | cope | magnus.conf! |
| 18:23.51 | eye69 | Hi cope |
| 18:23.58 | eye69 | Damn I'm tired |
| 18:24.24 | eye69 | Started work at 6 this morning...got up at 4.30 |
| 18:26.27 | cope | i have to catch a flight at 0630 from heathrow |
| 18:26.36 | cope | which is at least 1.5 hrs away |
| 18:26.47 | cope | and i probably need to get there an hour early |
| 18:27.57 | keithlard_ | ooh where to? |
| 18:29.23 | cope | germany |
| 18:30.06 | Gunde | whereto there? |
| 18:31.22 | cope | morfeldwe |
| 18:31.25 | cope | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.54 | Gunde | Mörfelden-Walldorf? |
| 18:32.54 | cope | is that near essen? |
| 18:32.54 | Gunde | I think the only thing I can remember being located there is the Ikea closest to Frankfurt... |
| 18:33.46 | Gunde | No, it is near Frankfurt and Wiesbaden. |
| 18:33.53 | Gunde | Do you fly into Essen? |
| 18:34.16 | Leeds | heh... Ikea really is a global brand nowadays |
| 18:35.38 | Gunde | Actually that Ikea is not in Mörfelden-Walldorf, just looked it up. Nevertheless the city is near Frankfurt. |
| 18:35.49 | cope | i think i fly to frankfurt |
| 18:35.51 | Gunde | Leeds: Hasnt it been that for quite a while? |
| 18:36.34 | Leeds | Gunde: I'm not sure how long they've been active in the US, and my parents said they didn't know if they were in Spain - but there are at least 2 I know of in Hong Kong :-) |
| 18:37.15 | Gunde | apparently it does. www.ikea.es exists. |
| 18:39.44 | keithlard_ | how come you're off to germany, is it a work thing |
| 18:46.16 | cope | yes |
| 18:47.19 | keithlard_ | excitemint! |
| 18:54.15 | cope | indeed |
| 18:55.43 | morsing | cope: Why? |
| 19:16.33 | cope | morsing: performance stuff |
| 19:17.05 | morsing | How so? And who? |
| 19:17.06 | morsing | 19:13 < cope> morsing: i have a meeting with a wizzo aix guru on friday |
| 19:17.06 | morsing | # |
| 19:23.21 | cope | well we have well-known performance issues on cluster |
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| 22:10.40 | wethrin | I had curry. And booze! |
| 22:11.26 | angelchild | yay! |
| 22:11.34 | angelchild | I had pizza! and booze! and broke my PC :) |
| 22:12.05 | wethrin | w00t |
| 22:12.28 | catalyst | on the plus side |
| 22:12.33 | catalyst | my new DVD drive works :) |
| 22:13.27 | wethrin | w00t |
| 22:53.25 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 23:00.31 | catalyst | how are you? :) |
| 23:00.38 | sabinef72 | ahhhhhhhh |
| 23:00.44 | sabinef72 | I'm ok and you ? |
| 23:00.57 | sabinef72 | I just came back from the theater. It was very very nice |
| 23:01.28 | catalyst | cool :) I went to a football game today (with my dad), it was fun |
| 23:01.42 | catalyst | I'm currently reinstalling operating systems on my PC |
| 23:02.20 | wethrin | What about rugby? |
| 23:02.34 | sabinef72 | the same |
| 23:02.44 | sabinef72 | I don't understand everything |
| 23:02.53 | wethrin | Rugby++, though! |
| 23:03.00 | sabinef72 | prefers |
| 23:04.07 | wethrin | $friend, who's a rugby referee, says he can get some tickets to a game up in Edinburgh next spring |
| 23:04.19 | sabinef72 | that's good |
| 23:04.23 | sabinef72 | you must go |
| 23:04.34 | wethrin | Of course. There'll also be booze involved |
| 23:04.37 | sabinef72 | see sport on tv and in real life is not the same |
| 23:05.22 | wethrin | true |
| 23:07.02 | sabinef72 | catalyst: did you enjoy football ? |
| 23:07.55 | catalyst | yeah! it was 0-0 and my team (Watford) really, really suck, but it was fun :) |
| 23:08.48 | sabinef72 | did you go there with a scarf and paint on your face ? |
| 23:09.08 | catalyst | hehe, not quite :) |
| 23:09.16 | catalyst | but I was wearing a replica shirt |
| 23:09.49 | catalyst | over the top of this one - http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/894a/ |
| 23:10.20 | sabinef72 | nice ! |
| 23:10.38 | wethrin | g'night! |
| 23:10.53 | sabinef72 | sleep well wethrin |
| 23:10.59 | catalyst | night wethrin :) |
| 23:16.33 | sabinef72 | I don't like so much tea |
| 23:17.19 | catalyst | tea is very tasty |
| 23:17.27 | catalyst | and it helps my sore throat as well |
| 23:17.50 | catalyst | (I'm currently attempting to lose weight by drinking tea when thirsty instead of snacking) |
| 23:17.54 | catalyst | err |
| 23:17.59 | catalyst | s/thirsty/hungry/ |
| 23:19.13 | sabinef72 | is it working ? |
| 23:19.21 | sabinef72 | did you lose weight like this ? |
| 23:20.40 | catalyst | I don't know yet :) |
| 23:20.46 | catalyst | I've only been trying it a few days |
| 23:21.03 | sabinef72 | ok you must tell me if it will work |
| 23:21.27 | catalyst | I shall :) |
| 23:21.35 | catalyst | I also joined two football teams |
| 23:21.57 | sabinef72 | really !!!!!! |
| 23:22.12 | catalyst | yup |
| 23:22.22 | catalyst | one 11-a-side and one 5-a-side |
| 23:22.50 | sabinef72 | sorry I don't understand |
| 23:22.53 | sabinef72 | what does it mean ? |
| 23:23.54 | catalyst | different types of football :) one type played with 11 players on a team and the other with 5 |
| 23:25.29 | sabinef72 | ok I see |
| 23:25.54 | sabinef72 | 5 is inside and 11 is outside ? |
| 23:29.21 | catalyst | yes :) |
| 23:30.04 | sabinef72 | I see |
| 23:30.22 | sabinef72 | I played football5 at school when I was a kid |
| 23:30.27 | sabinef72 | .... a long long time ago ! |
| 23:30.32 | catalyst | hehe :) |
| 23:30.47 | sabinef72 | I had a sport professor who teached us some "strange" sport |
| 23:31.05 | sabinef72 | so I played football, softball, boxe, danse.... |
| 23:32.46 | sabinef72 | well... it's already 01 :32 here |
| 23:32.49 | sabinef72 | I'll go to bed |
| 23:32.58 | sabinef72 | good night catalyst |
| 23:33.49 | catalyst | night night! |
| 23:34.19 | sabinef72 | kisses ! |
