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| 01:26.06 | z00dax_train | Moin |
| 01:34.33 | Leeds | hi |
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| 01:54.45 | z00dax_train | Hullo |
| 01:55.45 | catalyst | heyo |
| 01:55.47 | catalyst | train, huh? |
| 01:56.45 | z00dax_train | Yea, travelling from Chandigarh to NewDelhi for the day |
| 01:57.13 | Leeds | sitting on the roof? |
| 01:58.30 | z00dax_train | Err no ;) sitting in the nice first class coach |
| 01:59.05 | z00dax_train | Roof might have been cheaper |
| 02:00.17 | z00dax_train | Although the wifi might not work |
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| 05:02.55 | morsing | 'morning |
| 05:04.21 | catalyst | morning :) |
| 05:13.21 | Kitty | can anyone tell me if there is a social planned for after the expo tomorrow ? |
| 05:45.16 | Kitty | lucky |
| 05:46.48 | Leeds | I am, of course, an honorary Scouser anyway |
| 05:47.22 | Leeds | spent 3 years at Uni there... |
| 05:51.57 | Kitty | poor poor thing |
| 05:59.59 | Leeds | nah, 'twas a great place for it |
| 06:04.22 | Leeds | haven't been back since graduation, of course... |
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| 06:32.18 | murb | LeedsTreo: well you did work for sco. |
| 06:33.33 | LeedsTreo | murb: context please??? |
| 06:35.00 | LeedsTreo | ibot change 128 hkd to usd |
| 06:40.37 | murb | "< Leeds> I am, of course, an honorary Scouser anyway" |
| 06:41.41 | LeedsTreo | ah, yes... I am also a fully-qualified ex-SCO-user |
| 06:48.52 | morsing | 'morning again (now at work) |
| 06:53.55 | serris | morsing: hello! |
| 06:55.54 | morsing | serris! |
| 06:56.11 | serris | how's it going? |
| 06:57.12 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 06:58.57 | serris | had anything good for breakfast? |
| 07:03.08 | morsing | Home made bread with cheese |
| 07:03.45 | serris | I had some Raspberry Jam Donuts at around 3AM |
| 07:57.17 | mozrat | Moin |
| 07:57.41 | mozrat | Does anyone have any good quality images of past GLLUG meets? |
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| 08:00.57 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 08:06.18 | morsing | sabinef72! SlayerXP! |
| 08:10.10 | serris | bulldog are a right hassle |
| 08:10.24 | SlayerXP | as in the ISP? |
| 08:10.26 | serris | Yep |
| 08:10.42 | SlayerXP | as in "the second worst home ISP on the planet"? |
| 08:10.48 | serris | Indeed |
| 08:10.53 | SlayerXP | right, just checking. |
| 08:11.00 | serris | What's the worst then? |
| 08:11.04 | serris | I thought this was it .. |
| 08:12.37 | serris | Their 'lounge' is uhm useless. Half of it is down anyway. I set up direct debit with them, a month later they told me that they're sorry to inconveniance me but this no longer supported. Then the next month they tell me it is. They never take the money though so now I have to pay them about 6 month worth cause they never took it, I never felt the need to personally do anything about it. Now I have 7 days to pay and I can't cause their systems h |
| 08:13.07 | serris | Second time I call and their systems are still down but apparently if I ring back at about noon they should be able to take payment. |
| 08:13.14 | serris | I miss Blueyonder : ( |
| 08:16.41 | murb | I don't miss NTL. |
| 08:28.14 | trousers | Morning |
| 08:33.41 | morsing | m |
| 08:33.59 | morsing | ping cope_ |
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| 08:34.12 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 08:34.14 | morsing | ping cope_ |
| 08:39.57 | trousers | Is there a list anywhere of who's coming? |
| 08:40.15 | trousers | Tomorrow? |
| 08:46.07 | mozrat | trousers: would that be practical? |
| 08:46.27 | mozrat | I'm sure the event organisers have a list |
| 08:46.29 | trousers | I dunno, I was just interested |
| 08:46.41 | mozrat | ;) |
| 08:46.53 | mozrat | I'm going and thats all that matters |
| 08:46.56 | trousers | Argh! I need to get Linux on this piece-o'-sh*t laptop! |
| 08:47.29 | trousers | PCMCIA CD Drive!=fun |
| 08:50.04 | mozrat | Note to self. Do not take lots of money to Expo tomorrow.. otherwise you'll come home with lots of stuff and no money |
| 08:50.20 | trousers | Hehe |
| 08:53.32 | SlayerXP | i won';t be at the expo tommorow, I will be there all day on thursday though |
| 08:55.14 | serris | I'm going tomorrow |
| 08:55.20 | serris | I have to dig out my oyster card |
| 08:55.35 | serris | I'm dragging my pregnan wife along who doesn't really have much interest in Linux but what the hell |
| 08:57.35 | trousers | I want to bring a Linux capable machine tomorrow :( But it's either sorting my laptop out today or the only other option is bringing my PC :o |
| 08:59.26 | serris | I'm tempted to take my laptop wtih me but I'm not yet sure if I will |
| 09:00.51 | trousers | Can anybody help me with my laptop? The problem seems to be is tries to mount the root partitiong (the PCMCIA CD) before loading PCMCIA modules |
| 09:18.08 | trousers | What is CentOS like? |
| 09:18.31 | mozrat | Good |
| 09:18.44 | mozrat | z00dax is your man for that, he maintains their mirrors |
| 09:19.16 | mozrat | I don't know about using it for laptop systems though - it isn't cutting edge and you may find suspend, wireless cards don't work etc |
| 09:19.25 | mozrat | but it's a great server OS. |
| 09:19.36 | mozrat | How can the mayor of Tuttle Oklahoma be wrong? |
| 09:20.37 | trousers | Okay, what is a good laptop distro? |
| 09:20.44 | mozrat | Ubuntu.. SUSE |
| 09:20.46 | mozrat | I use SUSE |
| 09:20.54 | trousers | Ubuntu doesn't boot, I'll try SuSe |
| 09:22.48 | serris | I'm using Fluxbuntu atm but I'm working on editing the Dapper CD to suit my needs out of the box better |
| 09:26.51 | trousers | Hmmm, I could try a PXE boot install |
| 09:27.03 | mozrat | trousers: get a USB CD-ROM |
| 09:27.15 | trousers | Do you have one lying around? |
| 09:28.18 | serris | I should really start working on my server, but first I need to find my FreeBSD CD |
| 09:31.36 | trousers | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows - this looks hopeful, but risky |
| 09:32.43 | mozrat | trousers: I do actually |
| 09:33.02 | trousers | Oooh ooh ooooh! Can bring it tomorrow please! |
| 09:33.03 | trousers | ? |
| 09:34.15 | mozrat | Are you installing from CD or DVD? |
| 09:34.39 | trousers | CD |
| 09:34.57 | trousers | I might try one of these Windows installs, though, they look hopeful :) |
| 09:36.08 | mozrat | trousers: I'll try and remember for tomorrow, promise |
| 09:36.18 | mozrat | if I forget I'll just change my name badge |
| 09:36.28 | mozrat | and sit on the Lonix stand |
| 09:36.47 | trousers | :O |
| 09:38.21 | trousers | Well, I will pack my laptop in my rucksack, and if I'm stuck with Windows (rather than dual booting) I will be mildly annoyed |
| 09:38.31 | trousers | Mildly annoyed I warn you! |
| 09:40.07 | mozrat | if you are stuck with Windows we'll all laugh at you |
| 09:40.12 | trousers | Because this laptop is too slow on Windows. |
| 09:41.36 | trousers | 500MHz PCs weren't designed to support Windows >.< |
| 09:42.29 | mozrat | They were at some stage |
| 09:42.36 | trousers | I meant XP |
| 09:42.36 | mozrat | Probably 1998 |
| 09:42.40 | mozrat | ah |
| 09:42.41 | mozrat | no |
| 09:42.55 | mozrat | You might find Gnome a little slow on that as well |
| 09:43.09 | trousers | I wouldn't mind XFCE/FluxBox |
| 09:44.00 | mozrat | should work nicely |
| 09:44.18 | trousers | Eeeeexactky |
| 09:44.50 | serris | If you want to use Ubuntu + Fluxbuntu I would suggest fluxbuntu.org |
| 09:44.55 | trousers | I'm hoping to get a decent laptop for Christmas, though |
| 09:44.59 | trousers | *Checks* |
| 09:45.51 | serris | It's basically a minimal Ubuntu distro. Half the size of Ubuntu (partially due to using Fluxbox instead of Gnome) both on the Install (Live) CD and after the install |
| 09:46.28 | trousers | Hmm |
| 09:46.35 | trousers | Funky |
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| 09:47.10 | serris | indeed |
| 09:47.41 | trousers | Ahh, my PC is lovely and lightweight... Managed to cycle to a friend's house with it on my back yesterday >.< |
| 09:48.30 | serris | Damn it. I just ran over my toe with my chair and broke half the nail off |
| 09:48.45 | morsing | serris: Are you a woman? |
| 09:49.43 | serris | no but I can't wear work boots with a steal toe cap at the front anymore so I run over my toes atleast 10 times a night while wearing trainers |
| 09:49.53 | serris | So that's already hurting my toes and this didn't help : ( |
| 09:52.02 | mozrat | ouch |
| 09:52.45 | trousers | serris: Why can't you wear those boots anymore? |
| 09:53.00 | serris | Yeah, Sainsbury's doesn't like to spend money on their employees. They're meant to provide suitable protective footwear for staff for free. |
| 09:53.07 | serris | We haven't had new ones in in over a year |
| 09:53.17 | serris | I managed to nab some size 8s but I'm size 9 1/2 |
| 09:53.42 | trousers | Ah |
| 09:53.56 | serris | so after wearing those for about 4 month I kept waking up every night with pins and needles in my feet and couldn't really walk after being in the boots for 11-12 hours |
| 09:54.26 | serris | I'm not sure how long I'm staying with Sainsbury's and I don't wear boots besides to work in so I don't feel like investing my money into them |
| 09:57.35 | wethrin | bibble |
| 09:57.58 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 09:58.10 | trousers | Hallo there wethrin |
| 09:58.23 | wethrin | whatho |
| 10:00.55 | mozrat | wethrin: do you have any good GLLUG photos that would look good on A3? |
| 10:01.03 | mozrat | Possibly stuck to the wall of the GLLUG expo stand? |
| 10:01.52 | wethrin | mozrat: At home, yes. On my website they only go to 1024x768 |
| 10:02.33 | wethrin | http://eco.li/photos/2006/07-09-Bletchley-Park/07-09-Bletchley-Park.shtml |
| 10:04.18 | wethrin | http://eco.li/photos/2006/06-24-Gllug/06-24-Gllug.shtml |
| 10:05.04 | wethrin | mozrat: That's all I've got that's Gllug related |
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| 10:18.54 | boudiccas | ook |
| 10:19.16 | LeedsTreo | moo |
| 10:21.16 | LeedsTreo | how is London? |
| 10:31.00 | LeedsTreo | that good, eh? |
| 10:31.39 | serris | It's ok here |
| 10:31.49 | serris | Bit cloudy. Was raining around 3AM but that's about it |
| 10:32.15 | LeedsTreo | been drizzling here |
| 10:39.16 | keithlard | how do i increase the screen size in vmware? |
| 10:41.02 | LeedsTreo | get a virtual Radeon |
| 10:41.25 | LeedsTreo | and... I'm going offline... |
| 10:44.13 | mozrat | wethrin: thanks |
| 10:44.23 | keithlard | ooh mozrat |
| 10:45.41 | mozrat | keef! |
| 10:45.48 | wethrin | mozrat: Drop me an email (dan@eco.li) if you want the large-sized images of any of them |
| 10:45.57 | keithlard | i was hoping to come and help you at the stand tomorrow, except i left it too late to register :-| |
| 10:47.15 | mozrat | keithlard: Come along anyway.. just say you registered on the website and make a fuss - they'll let you in :-) |
| 10:47.18 | wethrin | keithlard: So get an exhibitors pass |
| 10:47.25 | wethrin | mozrat: Don't you have spare passes? |
| 10:47.37 | mozrat | wethrin: no, they screwed up. I have to get mine printed tomorrow morning |
| 10:47.54 | wethrin | mozrat: Hm. Well, you can get them to run off a couple extra then |
| 10:48.10 | mozrat | wethrin: probably could, yes |
| 10:48.47 | keithlard | well i can always come to the pub after |
| 10:49.46 | wethrin | pub++ |
| 10:50.14 | keithlard | if i know which one it is |
| 10:50.49 | mozrat | check the Lonix site |
| 10:51.33 | wethrin | It's the one by Notting Hill Gate, isn't it? |
| 10:51.41 | wethrin | If so, it's only a couple of minutes walk from the tube |
| 10:53.44 | wethrin | ! |
| 11:03.58 | Leeds | so I got home alive |
| 11:04.15 | mozrat | Congrats! |
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| 11:42.52 | sabinef72 | hi again |
| 11:44.44 | morsing | Moo |
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| 11:49.10 | morsing | wethrin! |
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| 12:05.17 | cbz | yuh |
| 12:09.13 | z00dax_train | Hey |
| 12:11.18 | morsing | :( |
| 12:16.06 | trousers | z00dax: What is it your phone uses... GPRS? |
| 12:17.04 | z00dax_train | Trousers, its EDGE here, faster than gprs, slower than 3g |
| 12:17.14 | trousers | Hmm, can you use it o laptops? |
| 12:17.45 | cbz | hey hey |
| 12:21.53 | z00dax_train | Trousers, yes works fine. But i am using it off my E61 nokia |
| 12:21.58 | z00dax_train | Cbz |
| 12:23.57 | cbz | z00dax_train. |
| 12:48.51 | trousers | Okay, I'm going to try the install-Ubuntu-from-inside-Windows thing |
| 12:51.05 | cbz | What do you mean 'partition types aren't modular' ? |
| 12:54.10 | Leeds | the kernel supports lots of partitioning schemes - e.g. Mac partitioning, Unixware slicing and so on... but they can't be built as modules |
| 12:54.27 | Leeds | I wanted Mac partition support, but it turned out I already had it on this machine |
| 12:56.32 | cbz | Ah, i see. |
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| 13:04.03 | z00dax_train | I m bak |
| 13:04.15 | trousers | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.27 | trousers | *not! |
| 13:04.43 | z00dax_train | Whats an npo and where can i get one ? |
| 13:05.14 | z00dax_train | Doh! |
| 13:05.57 | trousers | Hmm, this Windows GRUB method looks hopeful |
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| 13:14.30 | boudiccas | z00dax; i came back from victoria last night at 1819 and kept my eye opne for you, but, were you on that train? |
| 13:14.40 | boudiccas | *open |
| 13:15.28 | Leeds | boudiccas: uh, he's in India AFAIK |
| 13:15.34 | trousers | Hehe |
| 13:17.11 | boudiccas | Leeds; cor! he's gone a long way to avoid me hasn't he! :) |
| 13:17.38 | Leeds | can you really blame him? I mean, come on... |
| 13:17.58 | z00dax_train | Yea back on the delhi to chandigarh train |
| 13:18.10 | boudiccas | Leeds; you're to far away for me to 'come on' to you :))))))))))) |
| 13:18.43 | boudiccas | z00dax; enjoy the travelling :) |
| 13:19.14 | z00dax_train | Its fun so far, the weather is great and lots of family and good food. Im loovin it |
| 13:19.16 | boudiccas | s/to/too |
| 13:19.39 | boudiccas | how do you get ibot to do the spelling correction? |
| 13:19.52 | trousers | bleugh |
| 13:19.57 | trousers | ibout s/eu/a |
| 13:20.03 | trousers | bleugh |
| 13:20.06 | trousers | ibot s/eu/a |
| 13:20.22 | boudiccas | ibot s/to/too |
| 13:20.30 | stephen | you need a terminating forward slash too, I think |
| 13:20.33 | stephen | a |
| 13:20.35 | stephen | s/a/b/ |
| 13:20.48 | trousers | belugh |
| 13:20.54 | trousers | s/el/le |
| 13:20.56 | trousers | s/el/le/ |
| 13:21.15 | trousers | What is s/a/b/ used in? |
| 13:21.15 | z00dax_train | Is ibot even around ? |
| 13:21.19 | boudiccas | ibot /s/to/too |
| 13:21.31 | boudiccas | ibot s/to/too |
| 13:21.32 | z00dax_train | S/ibot/that thing called ibot/ |
| 13:21.39 | trousers | boudiccas: No ibot needed just s/a/b/ |
| 13:21.51 | boudiccas | s/to/too |
| 13:22.03 | trousers | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.06 | stephen | boudiccas: you need a slash at the end too |
| 13:22.20 | boudiccas | s/to/too/ |
| 13:22.27 | boudiccas | ah! ty |
| 13:23.31 | Leeds | trousers: it's standard sed/ex/vi format |
| 13:23.37 | z00dax_train | s/ibot/thing/ |
| 13:23.41 | z00dax_train | That shouldve worked |
| 13:24.21 | trousers | Ah, right |
| 13:26.23 | z00dax_train | Finally |
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| 13:35.06 | trousers | Under? |
| 13:35.47 | Leeds | yes... you got a problem with that? |
| 13:35.47 | boudiccas | trousers; Leeds is in Hong Kong :) |
| 13:36.15 | z00dax_train | Hey ! |
| 13:36.23 | trousers | How do you wave under? Wave under what? |
| 13:37.10 | boudiccas | z00dax-train; what? |
| 13:37.31 | Leeds | boudiccas: okay, okay... /me waves East... |
| 13:37.36 | boudiccas | z00dax_train; what? [now i've got the nick right] |
| 13:38.12 | boudiccas | Leeds; methinks you are confusing me with trousers, not that it matters at all |
| 13:38.50 | z00dax_train | What what ? |
| 13:39.12 | boudiccas | z00dax_train; Hey ! what |
| 13:40.45 | mozrat | What??? |
| 13:41.20 | popey | mozrat! |
| 13:41.26 | z00dax_train | Moz, wha wha what ? |
| 13:42.51 | Leeds | boudiccas: if I was in .au, I would wave under, but since I'm in HK, I wave East |
| 13:47.00 | mozrat | popey! |
| 13:47.15 | mozrat | Leeds: I have rockbox also now.. keeps freezing on ocassion |
| 13:47.25 | popey | yeah, does here too |
| 13:47.29 | mozrat | popey: all fit for tomorrow? |
| 13:47.35 | popey | "fit" |
| 13:47.40 | popey | you don't know me very well do you |
| 13:47.47 | mozrat | popey: it has to do with CPU frequency |
| 13:47.56 | popey | \o/ core 2 duo |
| 13:47.58 | mozrat | if you remember to set it when you first boot it, it doesn't freeze |
| 13:48.21 | popey | oh, interessin |
| 13:48.28 | popey | also I find it can't "see" some files anymore |
| 13:48.51 | popey | you go into folders and see no music, yet it can play them via a playlist, and can see the files if I boot back to the old bios |
| 13:48.55 | popey | and of course via usb |
| 13:49.28 | mozrat | Hmm |
| 13:51.19 | Leeds | mozrat: I've not actually used it in 'production' yet |
| 13:52.36 | mozrat | and my other niggle is that turning the iPod off starts you at the beginning again, unlike the i{Pod |
| 13:52.44 | popey | oh ipod |
| 13:52.47 | popey | mine is an iriver |
| 13:52.54 | Leeds | h320 here |
| 13:53.17 | Leeds | I bought a new bluetooth audio dongle today, so I should be able to listen to audio from the iriver over BT |
| 13:54.05 | popey | i have an h140 |
| 13:54.08 | popey | love it :) |
| 13:54.57 | Leeds | took this off my dad... I was the one who made him buy it, a couple of years back, mainly because he was demanding an MP3 player with built-in radio... he got a new iPod last month, so I, offered to give the iriver a good home ;-) |
| 13:56.09 | Leeds | my main issue is wanting something which will play ogg, aac and mp3, since I've got a real mixture of audio from different sources, and don't have access to any significant amount of originals - even the CDs I have are in storage in London |
| 13:56.18 | mozrat | Leeds: do you have any good photos from old GLLUG meetings? |
| 13:56.31 | mozrat | I want to print some on A3 for our stand tomorrow, but all of mine are quite dark |
| 13:56.49 | Leeds | I have some photos from *years* back, but none particularly easily to hand, I think |
| 13:57.23 | Leeds | hmm... got a few from GND there - that's what I mean by years back |
| 13:57.44 | mozrat | heh |
| 13:58.06 | mozrat | nuts, well. I'll have to do some generic ones then |
| 14:02.49 | trousers | Or you can bring a big LCD and have a webcam of the stall :S |
| 14:03.30 | mozrat | could do if the internet quality wasn't so poor at these events |
| 14:03.46 | mozrat | George spent hours running around trying to scrounge wireless at the last one |
| 14:03.59 | trousers | I haven't met George yet... That reminds me |
| 14:04.02 | trousers | ibot seen George |
| 14:04.17 | ibot | george <i=authdeni@81.91.110.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #intimate, 48d 21h 23m 32s ago, saying: 'I think I might have scared him off'. |
| 14:04.23 | mozrat | He doesn't come here any more unfortunately |
| 14:04.44 | trousers | Unfortunately? He did seem quite antisocial, no? |
| 14:05.37 | trousers | Oooh, ~5 minutes until I can try installing Ubuntu! |
| 14:06.30 | antiphase | Make your time |
| 14:06.39 | trousers | How are you gentlemen!! |
| 14:08.03 | z00dax_train | Dont count on wifi at the show, the air is saturated |
| 14:08.13 | mozrat | z00dax_train: yeah :( |
| 14:08.23 | mozrat | I'm going to work offline and maybe blog from my blackberry |
| 14:08.36 | z00dax_train | Even the wired net there runs at dialup, they have a single 5mb/sec link feeding the whole show |
| 14:09.03 | Leeds | George is still on IRC - I spoke to him a couple of days ago - but under a different name, and not interested in being insulted by SlayerXP any more |
| 14:09.10 | z00dax_train | Mozrat, i was unable to get either gprs or 3g working last year |
| 14:09.37 | z00dax_train | George is ok, i like him. :) |
| 14:09.51 | antiphase | Given a choice between CuntXP I think George is more interesting |
| 14:10.01 | trousers | The only thing I ever really saw him say though, was "DIE" |
| 14:10.10 | antiphase | There was that |
| 14:10.16 | antiphase | But it was in good humour |
| 14:10.33 | trousers | Okay! Time to test Ubuntu install! |
| 14:10.45 | antiphase | And he didn't drone on endlessly about some minor mail-scanning operation that no-one gave half a shit about |
| 14:11.16 | antiphase | We use Ubuntu at work. It is quite good. It is also not Debian, therefore ++ |
| 14:11.44 | Leeds | it's not a zero-sum game, you know... |
| 14:12.07 | z00dax_train | Hummm yeah |
| 14:12.14 | antiphase | Is it an "ego sum" game? |
| 14:12.23 | trousers | "I am"? |
| 14:12.59 | trousers | Caecilius est in hortum |
| 14:13.01 | z00dax_train | Who u ? |
| 14:13.15 | z00dax_train | trousers, same to you |
| 14:13.35 | antiphase | in /horto/. Ablative case, boy! |
| 14:13.57 | trousers | Are you a scary Latin teacher? |
| 14:14.08 | antiphase | No. I studied under some at school though |
| 14:14.20 | trousers | I gave up Latin at the end of year 9 :) |
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| 14:14.37 | z00dax_train | Latin. Hummmmm |
| 14:14.59 | Leeds | woo, paired my dongle! |
| 14:16.00 | Leeds | yay for bluetooth audio |
| 14:16.49 | z00dax_train | That almost sounds obscene, leeds |
| 14:17.11 | trousers | Arg, Ubuntu is still dying |
| 14:17.25 | Leeds | z00dax_train: nothing obscene about GCSEs, apart from the fact that they've been made so easy that they had to add a grade above A |
| 14:18.35 | trousers | mozrat: Please do bring the USB CD drive |
| 14:18.58 | rhowe | Hmm.. 100m of cat5e for £1.50 ex VAT |
| 14:19.02 | rhowe | Seems pretty cheap |
| 14:19.08 | cpufreak | Verbum sapienti sat est |
| 14:19.41 | Leeds | apparently George will be at the expo |
| 14:19.52 | cpufreak | which expo |
| 14:20.29 | trousers | The LinuxWorld expo tomorrow? |
| 14:20.33 | cpufreak | oh |
| 14:20.36 | cpufreak | LamersWorld |
| 14:21.03 | z00dax_train | Rhowe if you get that cable - ill share it with you |
| 14:21.27 | z00dax_train | Rhowe, how much for shipping ? |
| 14:22.25 | rhowe | o.O |
| 14:22.28 | rhowe | £25?! |
| 14:22.34 | z00dax_train | Cpufreak, its not that bad - but i know what you mean. Its a good place to recruit for gllug though |
| 14:22.34 | z00dax_train | And, the train is now on the move |
| 14:22.49 | cpufreak | I last went in 2003 |
| 14:22.55 | cpufreak | and it depressed me |
| 14:23.14 | rhowe | z00dax_train: hmm.. £1.50 for the cable, £2.50 shipping - nuts |
| 14:23.16 | z00dax_train | All yours mate, pass :) |
| 14:23.34 | rhowe | z00dax_train: I might be able to get the shipping taken off though |
| 14:23.42 | z00dax_train | Is that 2.50 or 25 ? |
| 14:23.58 | rhowe | z00dax_train: 1.50 pounds + 2.50 pounds shipping per 100m |
| 14:24.07 | rhowe | z00dax_train: So, 4 pounds per 100m all in (ex VAT) |
| 14:24.15 | rhowe | z00dax_train: It's blue |
| 14:24.45 | rhowe | z00dax_train: Also, it's showing as "normally available in 5-10 working days", so they might not actually have any |
| 14:25.13 | trousers | You can't really go wrong for that price, though |
| 14:25.17 | rhowe | z00dax_train: http://www.sccex.com/products/ShowProduct.aspx?spn=BELCB0VN&sid=1 |
| 14:25.23 | z00dax_train | Wow, 1.50 for 100m of cat5, i'll have some of that |
| 14:26.00 | trousers | rhowe: + VAT too |
| 14:26.05 | rhowe | trousers: Yes |
| 14:26.38 | z00dax_train | Im browser challenged, ;( |
| 14:26.51 | trousers | lynx/links! Woo! |
| 14:27.15 | z00dax_train | If you get some, pl get me one too, please. |
| 14:28.29 | rhowe | z00dax_train: OK |
| 14:28.42 | morsing | Check it! |
| 14:28.48 | z00dax_train | I've only got Opera on this phone and its time limit demo mode ran out a few days back. I'll need to reinstall the phones normal browser once i get back |
| 14:29.06 | rhowe | z00dax_train: Should be £4.70 including VAT & delivery |
| 14:29.16 | rhowe | z00dax_train: But if it's over a fiver, I'll not bother - sound fair? |
| 14:29.45 | rhowe | z00dax_train: That's 470 pennies if you're having trouble with UTF8 |
| 14:31.06 | z00dax_train | Rhowe ok, under a £5 total is good with me |
| 14:35.31 | z00dax_train | Ok, my stop in 5 min, bbl |
| 14:35.43 | Leeds | have fun... |
| 14:36.13 | z00dax_train | Enjoy LWE if i dont come back before then |
| 14:37.09 | mozrat | Is it possible to have multiple versions of glibc on one system? |
| 14:37.20 | cbz | Yes |
| 14:37.36 | Leeds | in a chroot type of context |
| 14:38.06 | cbz | Also in a compatibility type of context |
| 14:41.43 | mozrat | thanks |
| 15:01.56 | Leeds | anyway, it could all be worse... the Hong Kong LUG has apparently had no events and nothing to say since February |
| 15:02.03 | morsing | Leeds: Check it! |
| 15:13.13 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 15:13.29 | Leeds | what the fuck do you want? |
| 15:14.15 | cbz | He's turned into George |
| 15:24.05 | merlinn | probably calling you a dildo |
| 15:24.05 | SlayerXP | if geroge isn't interested in being iinsulted by me, then he either a) needs to act like someone at least half his age or b) learn to use /ignore |
| 15:24.14 | SlayerXP | "CuntXP" |
| 15:24.20 | SlayerXP | whay a stunningly original insult |
| 15:24.20 | merlinn | that made your window flash? |
| 15:24.29 | merlinn | 'cuntxp' ? |
| 15:24.29 | SlayerXP | thew the SlayerXP above did |
| 15:24.31 | merlinn | oh |
| 15:24.34 | merlinn | fair play |
| 15:26.47 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:26.52 | morsing | Leeds: Chekc it again please |
| 15:27.01 | Leeds | what the fuck do you want? |
| 15:42.28 | SlayerXP | why is leeds channeling george? |
| 15:43.05 | cpufreak | chanel number 5 |
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| 15:53.07 | Leeds | JohnDoe666! |
| 15:53.39 | JohnDoe666 | moin |
| 15:54.06 | Leeds | so, FC6 is releasing with an old version of firefox? |
| 15:57.50 | antiphase | Why haven't Fedora users realised they're just gullible guinea pigs yet? :) |
| 15:58.26 | Leeds | because they still think they're using RedHat |
| 15:58.48 | boudiccas | antiphase; thats part of the reason why i moved from fedora to centos :) |
| 16:00.54 | SlayerXP | i odn't recall if it was redhat 7.0 or 7.1 |
| 16:01.10 | boudiccas | SlayerXP; from redhat to what? |
| 16:01.20 | SlayerXP | it was when they shipped a compiler that couldn't compile the vanilla kernel tree |
| 16:01.29 | SlayerXP | boudiccas: why debian, of course. |
| 16:01.36 | boudiccas | SlayerXP; :) |
| 16:01.49 | cpufreak | ahh. Good old gcc 2.96 |
| 16:01.55 | SlayerXP | you had to use "kgcc" instead. |
| 16:02.07 | cpufreak | or egcs |
| 16:02.22 | SlayerXP | or debian. |
| 16:02.25 | SlayerXP | seemed easier. |
| 16:02.26 | wethrin | That was RedHat being silly, though, rather than the gcc developers (for once) |
| 16:13.21 | sabinef72 | hi again |
| 16:17.35 | cbz | hello sabine |
| 16:17.53 | sabinef72 | hi cbz |
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| 17:26.57 | Erwin | Some tourist in front of me was desparatedly trying to use the paper ticket as an Oyster card |
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| 17:39.01 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
| 17:43.23 | mozrat | morsing, are you coming to the expo tomorrow? |
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| 17:49.16 | morsing | mozrat: No - I have a job |
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| 17:49.40 | morsing | Gunde! |
| 17:49.54 | Gunde | good evening (: |
| 17:50.04 | mozrat | hey Gunde |
| 17:50.30 | mozrat | Have you met morsing? he won't come to the linux expo :( |
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| 17:50.39 | Gunde | I have met none of you yet, except here |
| 17:50.46 | mozrat | hi xotl! |
| 17:50.57 | xotl | hi mozrat |
| 17:51.02 | mozrat | gunde, that would be easy to change :-) |
| 17:51.16 | morsing | mozrat: I'll be at London.pm next week I think |
| 17:51.37 | Gunde | mozrat: I suspect you want to suggest I come to the expo? |
| 17:51.57 | mozrat | Gunde, that or there is a meeting in November |
| 17:51.59 | xotl | I've met noone except here either |
| 17:52.17 | xotl | is the date set for nov yet? |
| 17:52.18 | mozrat | xotl, well.... fix it! |
| 17:52.32 | Gunde | mozrat is on a recruiting spree? |
| 17:52.35 | xotl | mozrat: will do :-) |
| 17:52.50 | mozrat | Sat 11th apparently |
| 17:53.07 | Gunde | I am in Reading that weekend... |
| 17:53.27 | mozrat | Gunde :( |
| 17:53.34 | xotl | what happened to the idea that someone had about doing a course on the mailing list |
| 17:53.43 | xotl | is that happening? |
| 17:54.02 | mozrat | xotl, that still might happen... not sure who was going to teach it |
| 17:54.40 | xotl | how does the meet work? i assume that admins would not want to attend that so would be in a different room? |
| 17:54.43 | Gunde | mozrat: Where is it going to be? |
| 17:54.56 | Gunde | (I mean the meeting on 11 Nov) |
| 17:55.05 | mozrat | xotl, different room, yes |
| 17:55.22 | mozrat | Gunde, Westminster Uni, New Cavendish Street |
| 17:55.34 | xotl | are there presentations this time? |
| 17:55.57 | mozrat | xotl, not sure yet - depends who i trap at the expo :-) |
| 17:56.05 | xotl | lol ok |
| 17:57.13 | xotl | any interesting speakers lined up for the expo? |
| 17:57.59 | keithlard | hmm, is there a way to get yum to pin a package like apt does? |
| 17:58.46 | mozrat | /usr/bin/yum pin --like-apt-does |
| 17:59.41 | Gunde | http://planet.gllug.org.uk/ gives a proxy error - just for me? |
| 17:59.49 | keithlard | ooh |
| 18:00.16 | keithlard | aw |
| 18:00.24 | mozrat | Gunde, no, it's been happening for a while |
| 18:00.34 | mozrat | keef, did it work? |
| 18:00.41 | keithlard | no |
| 18:00.48 | keithlard | i trusted you mozrat!! |
| 18:01.02 | keithlard | damn you all to hell! |
| 18:01.05 | mozrat | did you compile yum with the --use-the-force-keef flag? |
| 18:01.29 | mozrat | This is a no smoking channel! |
| 18:01.56 | mozrat | :( |
| 18:02.29 | Gunde | What is the difference between fuming and smouldering? |
| 18:03.16 | mozrat | If West Ham lose tonight I may very well resign my 30 year long fanship :( |
| 18:03.16 | xotl | one is getting hotter the other is getting cooler |
| 18:04.11 | xotl | who are they playing |
| 18:04.21 | mozrat | Chesterfield |
| 18:04.55 | xotl | I've never even heard of chesterfield so i agree about your fanship |
| 18:05.37 | mozrat | But this is West Ham. they could lose against the Croyden 5-aside blind wheelchair team |
| 18:06.07 | xotl | that's why they need their loyal fans to spur them on |
| 18:06.08 | mozrat | The under 8 female blind wheelchair 5-aside team |
| 18:07.34 | xotl | maybe they've been practising against the wrong type of team |
| 18:08.12 | xotl | better hope chesterfield left their wheelchairs in back in chesterfield |
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| 18:08.41 | mozrat | i hope so |
| 19:03.12 | trousers | mozrat: Got the CD drive? :) |
| 19:24.58 | wethrin | Outside a pub? |
| 19:25.22 | morsing | cinema |
| 19:25.47 | morsing | z0d! |
| 19:27.00 | z00dax | mor! |
| 19:27.40 | z00dax | wuzup ? |
| 19:29.23 | wethrin | ah |
| 19:29.31 | wethrin | In Aylesbury? |
| 19:54.34 | trousers | Anybody have a good guide to setting up an NFS to install from? |
| 19:55.18 | z00dax | trousers: yes, http://www.centos.org/docs/ has docs |
| 20:01.39 | sabinef72 | mozrat: mozzie, my dear mozzie.... come on ..... |
| 20:07.44 | trousers | Okay, I have a NFS... Do I just put the contents of the CD on it? |
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| 20:20.50 | morsing | wethrin: Berkhamsted |
| 20:22.28 | murb | Berko! |
| 20:22.47 | morsing | murb! |
| 20:38.10 | trousers | Hello? |
| 20:46.41 | trousers | I lamost have my laptop booting over ethernet, I just need a little help? |
| 20:47.00 | trousers | s/lamost/almost/ |
| 20:52.38 | wethrin | whatho |
| 20:53.08 | trousers | Well, I have a tftp server running, and I have a DHCP server running |
| 20:53.14 | wethrin | Right |
| 20:53.15 | trousers | I assign my laptop an IP on boot |
| 20:53.22 | trousers | But the PXE can't find the TFTP server |
| 20:55.03 | wethrin | Error messages? |
| 20:55.09 | trousers | TFTP open timeout |
| 20:55.13 | wethrin | Have you enabled tftp in inetd.conf? |
| 20:55.21 | wethrin | And don't have UDP firewalling? |
| 20:56.23 | trousers | Don't think I have firewalling, and TFTP is definitely started |
| 20:56.49 | trousers | Oh, balls, my bad |
| 20:57.00 | trousers | It WASN't started, I checked by starting it *embarrassed* |
| 20:57.32 | trousers | Woo! It looks like it can install! |
| 20:58.24 | wethrin | :-) |
| 20:59.13 | trousers | Hmm, is there any way to install the whole operating system without an internet connection? |
| 21:01.35 | trousers | wethrin? |
| 21:02.00 | trousers | Considering I can boot the installer off of it, can't I host the files somwhere local too? |
| 21:03.01 | wethrin | Hi |
| 21:03.12 | wethrin | Yes. Install over NFS |
| 21:03.20 | wethrin | Or local FTP / web server |
| 21:04.09 | trousers | Right, I have an NFS set up... |
| 21:04.13 | trousers | *Googles* |
| 21:05.10 | wethrin | The NetBSD install docs are very good |
| 21:05.28 | trousers | But this is Ubuntu? |
| 21:09.28 | wethrin | Stick a CD in, and click 'install' |
| 21:10.37 | trousers | Stick in a CD? I'm doing this without a CD drive... You think I wouldn't have tried that? :P |
| 21:13.39 | trousers | Wow, it's working by itself somehow... Fair enough :) |
| 21:13.40 | trousers | It took bloody long enough :D |
| 21:13.40 | wethrin | heh |
| 21:13.42 | trousers | I should dual boot, really, though, otherwise my dad will get pissy that it has no Windows |
| 21:14.14 | wethrin | pah! |
| 21:14.40 | trousers | Arf, won't let me resize partition! Oh well, it's a shit laptop anyway |
| 21:14.55 | wethrin | No matter |
| 21:15.47 | trousers | This laptop *will* work if it's the last thing I do today! |
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| 21:16.03 | wethrin | Isn't it past your bedtime? :) |
| 21:16.08 | trousers | Sssshh |
| 21:16.14 | secretlondon | Hi |
| 21:16.14 | trousers | Are you coming tomorrow, wethrin? |
| 21:16.38 | secretlondon | i'm at the expo tomorrow but on the ubuntu community stall |
| 21:17.57 | wethrin | trousers: No |
| 21:18.06 | wethrin | I'm in Durham |
| 21:18.09 | trousers | :( |
| 21:18.24 | trousers | Thursday? |
| 21:18.36 | wethrin | I'm in Durham |
| 21:18.41 | wethrin | I have work to do here |
| 21:18.54 | trousers | Fair enough |
| 21:19.09 | trousers | Well, Ubuntu's installing \o/ It found a route to the internet |
| 21:19.25 | wethrin | woo |
| 21:21.20 | secretlondon | woo - my net is broken in edgy (still) |
| 21:22.23 | wethrin | heh |
| 21:22.36 | trousers | Although whilst setting up network boot my router thinks there are about 10 devices connected when there are 5 :S |
| 21:22.54 | trousers | Ah, only 4 now |
| 21:23.07 | wethrin | oh, irda. Good luck! |
| 21:23.09 | trousers | Only 5 connectied |
| 21:23.31 | secretlondon | wetherin: i know i need it.. |
| 21:23.34 | trousers | secretlondon: Isn't the irda through a serial port if it's built in to a laptop? |
| 21:25.39 | wethrin | There's a little bit more to it that that |
| 21:25.39 | wethrin | It emulates a serial port, once the rest of the stuff is set up |
| 21:25.45 | secretlondon | trousers: yep. it just finds both com ports (i've disabled com1 to make stuff easier) and then gives the wrong chip error which is something to do with FIR (but I've set fir up okay in the bios) |
| 21:25.45 | trousers | Can't you try using IRtrans or something? |
| 21:25.45 | secretlondon | it is finding the rs232 serial even though it's disabled |
| 21:25.49 | wethrin | Linux doesn't always honour things in the BIOS |
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| 21:40.16 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG - Next event is 25th October - LinuxWorld Expo. http://gllug.org.uk | http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
| 21:40.18 | wethrin | Ahem |
| 21:40.30 | wethrin | It always seems ot be me posting about meeting for beer in London |
| 21:41.12 | secretlondon | the conference looks very stand like - we've got a photo of our stall -https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LinuxWorldLondon2006Planning |
| 21:41.20 | secretlondon | how 3 people are gonna staff that i dunno |
| 21:41.24 | wethrin | coo |
| 21:41.28 | wethrin | yay! |
| 21:41.37 | wethrin | It's always good to have new people coming along |
| 21:42.02 | secretlondon | I meant to go to the softwrae freedom day thing but didn't make it |
| 21:42.20 | wethrin | pah. I had to compere that at the last minute |
| 21:42.28 | keithlard_ | well i am a bit shy so i would need to sit next to someone i know |
| 21:42.53 | wethrin | Know IRL, or know on IRC? :) |
| 21:42.56 | keithlard_ | except i only know cope, and he never comes |
| 21:43.00 | wethrin | We won't bite. Promise. |
| 21:43.02 | keithlard_ | well irl reely |
| 21:43.03 | wethrin | z00dax sometimes comes |
| 21:43.26 | keithlard_ | yes, that is ok. he's a super fellow |
| 21:43.33 | trousers | wethrin: Wethrin is nice and fluffy :) |
| 21:43.53 | trousers | Argh, damned autocomplete |
| 21:44.10 | keithlard_ | ooh, well i did not know there was autocomplete :) |
| 21:44.27 | wethrin | hey...HEY! |
| 21:46.03 | secretlondon | keithlardL go on? |
| 21:46.21 | keithlard_ | oh well eg, viz how to use the taglist plugin for vim |
| 21:46.33 | keithlard_ | it's the text editor that thinks it's an ide :D |
| 21:46.48 | secretlondon | I use nano as a noob |
| 21:46.55 | wethrin | emacs! :) |
| 21:46.59 | secretlondon | it's one up in uberness from using gedit |
| 21:47.16 | keithlard_ | ooh well nano is just fine, but vim is an awful lot of fun |
| 21:47.31 | secretlondon | I briefly used emacs at college when they tried to teach us prolog |
| 21:47.36 | keithlard_ | i like my syntax colouring ekcetera |
| 21:47.41 | wethrin | emacs does that |
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| 21:47.58 | keithlard_ | but i do not know how to work emacs |
| 21:48.12 | wethrin | Don't use the escape key |
| 21:48.13 | keithlard_ | i realise that is not emacs' fault |
| 21:50.08 | keithlard_ | this is so weak, i keep getting spams from justin timberlake |
| 21:50.30 | secretlondon | keithlard: maybe he's stalking you? |
| 21:51.26 | keithlard_ | i suppose he's only guilty of being seduced by my rakish good looks |
| 21:52.07 | secretlondon | possibly |
| 21:52.45 | keithlard_ | oh well time for a beer |
| 21:52.50 | wethrin | ooh, beer |
| 21:53.01 | keithlard_ | did anyone watch man to man with dean learner.... classic |
| 21:53.10 | wethrin | Nope |
| 21:53.18 | secretlondon | nah |
| 21:53.32 | keithlard_ | an exclusive preview of garth marenghi's new movie... 'War of the Wasps' |
| 21:54.02 | keithlard_ | oh well you had to be there |
| 21:54.09 | wethrin | Hm. So I think there won't be anyone in the Computing Society here to take care of their E450 after the end of this year |
| 21:54.48 | keithlard_ | wow, you should snap that up! they make great space heaters! |
| 21:54.54 | wethrin | Oh, it's already in my house |
| 21:55.10 | secretlondon | nice |
| 21:55.24 | keithlard_ | on bitter wintry days, you can crawl inside it and close the drive bay door |
| 21:56.24 | trousers | Hehe, sounds cosy |
| 21:56.51 | wethrin | Yeah. Space for 20 disks in there :) |
| 21:57.02 | wethrin | But I only have the backplane for 4 |
| 21:57.10 | wethrin | Err, 8 |
| 21:57.40 | wethrin | I might be able to give it away, if someone wants to come to Durham to collect |
| 21:57.43 | cpufreak | w00t |
| 21:57.45 | cpufreak | got my hetzner box |
| 21:57.49 | wethrin | But this would be next year |
| 21:57.56 | keithlard_ | you should get an E10K. you can actually hook it up to your car and use it as a caravan, for a well-earned motoring holiday in europe |
| 21:58.13 | wethrin | In the meanwhilst, I should play with Asterisk on my new U5 |
| 21:58.19 | wethrin | keithlard_: I have an 11-CPU E4k |
| 21:58.25 | secretlondon | coo |
| 21:58.34 | keithlard_ | pretty sweet, but what is it with all this steam-powered sun kit? |
| 21:58.54 | cpufreak | keithlard_: no. we have E6900s at work, they're much quicker despite having /only/ 24 dual core (48 core) processors |
| 21:58.58 | wethrin | It's mostly free or near-free |
| 21:59.02 | keithlard_ | an ultra 5 is slightly less powerful than a 1980s texas instruments calculator with the clickety keyboard |
| 21:59.14 | cpufreak | besides the bus latency in the E6x00 series is much less than in the E10k/E15k/E25k |
| 21:59.18 | cpufreak | due to the design |
| 21:59.20 | wethrin | keithlard_: Nah - a U5 is pretty reasonable. Except the IDE interface |
| 21:59.32 | keithlard_ | i'm only messing, it's great reely |
| 21:59.37 | wethrin | Heh |
| 21:59.53 | wethrin | I've got a U5 doing firewalling stuff, and a U1 running internal services |
| 22:00.06 | cpufreak | wethrin: you in london at the minute |
| 22:00.06 | cpufreak | or not |
| 22:00.17 | wethrin | cpufreak: No |
| 22:00.19 | cpufreak | lame |
| 22:00.19 | keithlard_ | using solaris now feels like going back in time |
| 22:00.23 | wethrin | I'm passing through London next week |
| 22:00.25 | wethrin | Sorry |
| 22:00.26 | cpufreak | bonus |
| 22:00.29 | cpufreak | next week is good |
| 22:00.36 | wethrin | Monday night (arriving Kings X around half 9) |
| 22:00.53 | wethrin | And leaving on Wednesday morning (Kings X 9.30am) |
| 22:01.02 | wethrin | Tuesday I'm at a gig |
| 22:05.11 | wethrin | Yeah. I appear to have killed the conversation |
| 22:05.48 | keithlard_ | i went to this torrent site to try and download 'House MD'... now it's just a matter of guessing which of the following categories it would be in: anal, oral, double penetration, facial cumshot.... |
| 22:05.58 | keithlard_ | i'd say all of the above |
| 22:06.18 | secretlondon | gynae I reckon |
| 22:06.40 | wethrin | keithlard_: Is that the secret adult version? |
| 22:06.49 | wethrin | Maybe you shoudl try a different torrent site |
| 22:07.09 | trousers | Hmm, Ubuntu is taking for EVER |
| 22:07.16 | wethrin | yes, it's big |
| 22:07.25 | trousers | But it's almost time to either smile or be irritated |
| 22:07.42 | cpufreak | wethrin: so late monday night? |
| 22:07.42 | wethrin | Smile because they haven't found the bodies |
| 22:07.47 | cpufreak | or what time is the gig on tues |
| 22:07.50 | wethrin | cpufreak: Sure, if that's okay with you |
| 22:07.51 | secretlondon | trousers: only one cd, not debian sized yet |
| 22:07.53 | trousers | wethrin: What bodies are these? |
| 22:07.53 | wethrin | cpufreak: 7pm |
| 22:08.01 | wethrin | Couldn't possibly comment |
| 22:08.04 | trousers | How big is Debian? |
| 22:08.09 | secretlondon | 8 i think |
| 22:08.13 | trousers | Ouch |
| 22:08.14 | wethrin | 14, sin't it now? |
| 22:08.18 | trousers | That's rather irritating to download... |
| 22:08.24 | wethrin | You don't download it |
| 22:08.25 | trousers | I like 1CD |
| 22:08.27 | secretlondon | wethrin: you're probably right |
| 22:08.34 | keithlard_ | the list of series that they track reads like randall's obscene video speech in 'clerks': ass busters, porking with pride, black dicks in white chicks, gag on this, swallow my pride, and the playfully titled 'whoriental sex academy' |
| 22:08.43 | trousers | 2CDs is okay - any more and I don't bother |
| 22:09.03 | trousers | 0.0 What is this?! |
| 22:09.27 | keithlard_ | sorry, cover your eyes, it's after the watershed |
| 22:09.29 | merlinn | why are there fireworks outside my house every night |
| 22:09.41 | secretlondon | because fireworks make loud noises |
| 22:09.46 | merlinn | ah |
| 22:09.48 | secretlondon | and the local children like this |
| 22:09.53 | trousers | Because people love making irritating and unnecessary noises |
| 22:10.02 | merlinn | I live in a primarily asian area of london |
| 22:10.20 | secretlondon | i'm primarily black african - it makes no difference |
| 22:10.20 | merlinn | oh dur |
| 22:10.29 | merlinn | whree are you? |
| 22:10.33 | secretlondon | camberwell |
| 22:10.41 | merlinn | I used to live in streatham |
| 22:10.52 | trousers | Gogo Kingston upon Thames! |
| 22:11.01 | keithlard_ | i lived down the road from you in peckham for 5 years! |
| 22:11.05 | wethrin | And it's close to Bonfire night |
| 22:11.05 | merlinn | they had guns |
| 22:11.06 | trousers | I saw a guy from GLLUG at Kingston library the other day :) |
| 22:11.07 | merlinn | but no fireworks |
| 22:11.11 | secretlondon | ah - I probably wasn't there then |
| 22:11.17 | keithlard_ | do you get the N12 night bus back from town :D |
| 22:11.25 | secretlondon | it's called the 12 now |
| 22:11.27 | secretlondon | 24 hr |
| 22:11.28 | wethrin | keithlard_: Stalking people again? :) |
| 22:11.40 | keithlard_ | it's the N12! sacrilege! |
| 22:11.41 | secretlondon | but there are 101 night buses up the walworth rd |
| 22:11.51 | serris | My area is rather mixed for Hounslow. Half is Polish the other half is Indian |
| 22:11.59 | trousers | Polish? |
| 22:12.04 | wethrin | trousers: From Poland |
| 22:12.07 | trousers | No offence but Hounslow is a bit iffy |
| 22:12.08 | keithlard_ | yes, but the 12 and 84 go to camberwell and peckham so those were my most favourite buses |
| 22:12.12 | serris | I agree |
| 22:12.15 | secretlondon | we don't have an 84 |
| 22:12.19 | rhowe | "Important Notice: Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits" - http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901 |
| 22:12.44 | secretlondon | we do have a bedny bus the 436 which does what you want |
| 22:12.51 | serris | The Poles are fun. On weekends they invite about 20 of 'em over and get drunk. So at 1AM they're still out singing to Polish music at the top of their lungs |
| 22:13.00 | trousers | :( |
| 22:13.43 | keithlard_ | n84 goes to new cross i think |
| 22:13.54 | keithlard_ | or used to |
| 22:13.54 | trousers | Ubuntu 85% |
| 22:13.56 | wethrin | Yay for vodka |
| 22:14.18 | keithlard_ | i found a web site about it, but i've just realised it's dated 1966 |
| 22:14.23 | rhowe | secretlondon: Camberwell? That's the deep south, isn't it? |
| 22:14.27 | keithlard_ | as am i, fairly nearly |
| 22:14.30 | wethrin | website from 1966? |
| 22:14.30 | trousers | keithlard_: ? |
| 22:14.30 | secretlondon | rhowe: nah, zone 2 |
| 22:14.30 | wethrin | Wow |
| 22:14.33 | wethrin | I'm impressed |
| 22:14.42 | wethrin | ah, a saarf londoner |
| 22:14.44 | rhowe | secretlondon: Yeah, deep south |
| 22:14.52 | secretlondon | nah |
| 22:14.59 | secretlondon | we have the tube here and everything |
| 22:15.13 | rhowe | The shallow south |
| 22:15.25 | secretlondon | elephant and castle is claiming to be south central |
| 22:15.43 | secretlondon | according to marketing bumpf |
| 22:16.05 | secretlondon | dep south is like eltham, or annerly |
| 22:16.10 | rhowe | secretlondon: heh, it's a hole and always will be :) |
| 22:16.13 | wethrin | Croydon! |
| 22:16.13 | keithlard_ | it has 7xxx phone numbers! |
| 22:16.20 | secretlondon | places you'd never want to go to |
| 22:16.36 | trousers | Wales. |
| 22:16.47 | secretlondon | croydon even has its own post code |
| 22:17.09 | wethrin | Nothing wrong with Wales! They make nice whisky |
| 22:17.12 | rhowe | I hear the border guards can be rough and bearded |
| 22:17.15 | secretlondon | keithlard - everyone has 7xxx phone numbers, it's not inner and outer any more |
| 22:17.31 | trousers | 02% |
| 22:17.38 | trousers | s/0/9/ |
| 22:17.54 | keithlard_ | aw, i thought it was |
| 22:18.19 | secretlondon | no - you could live somewhere like westminster or chelsea and still be given a scummy 8xxx number |
| 22:18.28 | wethrin | My current phone number starts 0191 3 |
| 22:18.34 | keithlard_ | hmph |
| 22:18.37 | secretlondon | or in the back of beyond and get 7xxx |
| 22:18.56 | keithlard_ | they've changed the night buses and now they're messing with the phone numbers? |
| 22:19.07 | trousers | It's an atrocity! |
| 22:19.13 | secretlondon | what is the country coming to! I blame the $tabloidexcuse |
| 22:19.28 | trousers | Today's tabloid excuse: Wheelie bins! |
| 22:19.33 | keithlard_ | i blame that tony blairs |
| 22:19.38 | secretlondon | they could be used for terrorism |
| 22:19.58 | secretlondon | exploding wheely bins are a new possible feature |
| 22:20.01 | wethrin | secretlondon: Immigrants? House prices? |
| 22:20.02 | keithlard_ | :S |
| 22:20.15 | secretlondon | wethrin: indeed. Brussels, political correctness! |
| 22:20.22 | wethrin | Damn the lot of them! |
| 22:20.26 | wethrin | Bowler hats for all! |
| 22:20.31 | wethrin | And umbrellas |
| 22:20.35 | trousers | And cattle prods! |
| 22:20.38 | wethrin | Maybe a trilby |
| 22:20.47 | keithlard_ | :S |
| 22:21.05 | secretlondon | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.15 | wethrin | So modify it |
| 22:21.24 | trousers | "What if someone comes at us with a pointed stick?" |
| 22:21.30 | wethrin | Shush |
| 22:21.45 | secretlondon | our network of 100% cctv cameras will catch them red handed! |
| 22:21.47 | keithlard_ | who are you going to poke secretlondon? |
| 22:21.57 | secretlondon | keithlard_ :the people who annoy me |
| 22:22.09 | secretlondon | this varies |
| 22:22.19 | keithlard_ | well that is quite acceptable of course |
| 22:22.53 | keithlard_ | i deserve it |
| 22:22.56 | wethrin | ooh, Simpsons |
| 22:23.13 | keithlard_ | i haven't even finished watching dr who yet! |
| 22:23.18 | wethrin | shocking |
| 22:25.13 | wethrin | Watch it instead of the SImpsons |
| 22:25.34 | cpufreak | watch heroes insted |
| 22:25.48 | wethrin | cpufreak: So, Monday? |
| 22:26.41 | wethrin | secretlondon: Firefox is rubbish and leaky. Please fix it |
| 22:26.50 | secretlondon | wethrin: we ship that |
| 22:27.08 | secretlondon | and we get worse bugs that that |
| 22:27.25 | psnl | wethrin: good/abd? |
| 22:27.26 | secretlondon | "when I put in my CD for windowssoftware it didn't install |
| 22:27.35 | secretlondon | yes, cos this aint windows |
| 22:27.36 | wethrin | Oh dear |
| 22:27.43 | wethrin | psnl: So far, I like it |
| 22:27.46 | cpufreak | wethrin: ring me |
| 22:27.50 | cpufreak | when you get in |
| 22:27.57 | cpufreak | where are you staying in london? |
| 22:28.00 | secretlondon | ubuntu is the coal face of lunix evangelism |
| 22:28.16 | psnl | wethrin: have you considered ripping your <blank> off? |
| 22:28.25 | trousers | wethrin: The time of testing has arrived! |
| 22:28.33 | wethrin | cpufreak: In Beaconsfield |
| 22:28.34 | secretlondon | woo |
| 22:28.39 | cpufreak | wtf is that |
| 22:28.57 | cpufreak | off the a40? |
| 22:29.04 | wethrin | cpufreak: Out of Marylebone |
| 22:29.05 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 22:29.09 | cpufreak | in bucks? |
| 22:29.10 | wethrin | psnl: Huh? |
| 22:29.13 | wethrin | cpufreak: Yeah |
| 22:29.24 | cpufreak | so you're getting into kings cross for 9:30 |
| 22:29.25 | psnl | wethrin: it sucked when I watched it |
| 22:29.32 | wethrin | psnl: Pah :-P |
| 22:29.37 | cpufreak | if you can make it to sloane square |
| 22:29.40 | wethrin | cpufreak: Yes |
| 22:29.41 | cpufreak | and ring me when you're there |
| 22:29.45 | wethrin | Sloane Square isn't a problem |
| 22:29.45 | cpufreak | I'll pick you up |
| 22:29.48 | wethrin | Cool |
| 22:29.49 | cpufreak | and give you a lift to beacons field |
| 22:29.52 | cpufreak | if you want |
| 22:29.54 | wethrin | oh, yay! |
| 22:30.03 | cpufreak | you're not fat are you? |
| 22:30.04 | cpufreak | I'm not being rude |
| 22:30.09 | cpufreak | but you may not fit in the seats in my car |
| 22:30.16 | wethrin | I'm not *that* large! |
| 22:30.18 | cpufreak | ok |
| 22:30.20 | cpufreak | should be ok then |
| 22:30.25 | trousers | WETHRIN WETHRIN! |
| 22:30.28 | trousers | IT WOOOOOOORKS! |
| 22:30.30 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 22:30.42 | secretlondon | woo |
| 22:30.44 | wethrin | cpufreak: I may be a little over 'ideal' weight |
| 22:30.57 | wethrin | But not that much :) |
| 22:30.58 | cpufreak | thats fine, as long as you're not like 18+ stone |
| 22:31.01 | wethrin | Nah |
| 22:31.03 | cpufreak | ace |
| 22:31.08 | wethrin | I still fit on my bathroom scales |
| 22:31.18 | serris | What car do you have, cpufreak? |
| 22:31.22 | cpufreak | M3 CSL |
| 22:31.24 | cpufreak | bmw |
| 22:31.32 | wethrin | Sports one, I take it |
| 22:31.36 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 22:31.38 | wethrin | I'm there! |
| 22:31.46 | serris | Nice |
| 22:31.57 | cpufreak | 360bhp, relatively lightweight |
| 22:31.59 | trousers | wethrin: What do I use to configure wireless devices? |
| 22:32.07 | wethrin | trousers: iwconfig ? |
| 22:32.11 | trousers | Cheers |
| 22:32.18 | cpufreak | and the most wonderful sounding engine anywear shy of a carrera GT imo. |
| 22:32.41 | secretlondon | system/administration/networking |
| 22:32.44 | wethrin | Hey, you've already sold me on a lift! |
| 22:33.57 | cpufreak | tomorrow is going to be important |
| 22:33.59 | cpufreak | need to sleep |
| 22:34.01 | cpufreak | buying flat tomorrow |
| 22:34.05 | wethrin | cool! |
| 22:34.08 | serris | Good luck cpufreak |
| 22:34.18 | trousers | Wow, GNOME runs suprisingly smoothly on a 500MHz CPU |
| 22:34.21 | cpufreak | yay to putting myself another 330k in debt |
| 22:34.46 | trousers | 330k?! Will you actually ever pay that off? |
| 22:34.49 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 22:34.54 | cpufreak | aim to have it paid off in 5 years |
| 22:35.01 | secretlondon | trousers: xubuntu will be nicer for you, xfce is less heavy |
| 22:35.26 | cpufreak | I'm not really putting myself that much in debt, as I've got a significant deposit |
| 22:35.33 | trousers | secretlondon: I can always add XFCE on to the OS with something like sudo apt-get distroinstall xubuntu :) |
| 22:35.35 | secretlondon | trousers: you can install xubuntu-desktop |
| 22:35.40 | serris | I still suggest Fluxbuntu or Ubuntu Light if you can use / want to use Fluxbuntu or IceWM |
| 22:35.41 | trousers | Yarr, I know |
| 22:35.45 | serris | I think Ubuntu Light uses IceWM |
| 22:35.58 | trousers | Yes, well I aminly wanted to get an OS running tonight :D |
| 22:36.09 | serris | I'll ak Joejaxx when the fluxbuntu-desktop meta package is done, hold on |
| 22:36.17 | cpufreak | I wish bonuses were tax free tho |
| 22:36.39 | wethrin | cpufreak: Where are you buying? |
| 22:36.46 | serris | Yeah. We get a misly 300 quid bonus if we meet 3% targets at work. That gets taxed so we really end up wtih 100 quid at the end of the day |
| 22:36.46 | cpufreak | fulham |
| 22:36.49 | *** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin) |
| 22:36.52 | wethrin | Nice! |
| 22:37.22 | cpufreak | we're hiring. |
| 22:37.59 | secretlondon | I'm looking for helpdesk type things - first IT job as i'm retraining |
| 22:38.05 | serris | Cool. I still have a week to hand in my application to BAA |
| 22:38.17 | cpufreak | secretlondon: be on line tomorroe during the day |
| 22:38.22 | cpufreak | I'll check the intranet @ work |
| 22:38.32 | secretlondon | cpufreak: I'm going to be at the expo all day |
| 22:38.40 | cpufreak | lame |
| 22:38.43 | serris | lol |
| 22:38.47 | cpufreak | pm me an email address |
| 22:38.50 | cpufreak | and If I remeber |
| 22:38.56 | cpufreak | I'll email you any likely sounding job specs. |
| 22:39.23 | secretlondon | cpufreak: thanks |
| 22:39.44 | serris | trousers: the fluxbuntu-desktop package should be done within a week or so and then it will be usable |
| 22:39.52 | trousers | serris: Cheers |
| 22:40.19 | merlinn | cpufreak: couldnt' you slot her into tng or whatever that lame team name is? |
| 22:40.21 | secretlondon | ooh. I need to decide what to stick on the little p166 - i'm planning on xubuntu but it may end up with flux or something |
| 22:40.25 | cpufreak | TSD |
| 22:40.28 | cpufreak | yeh merl |
| 22:40.30 | cpufreak | thats the idea |
| 22:40.52 | merlinn | we can all be big gay betfair weiners |
| 22:41.13 | cpufreak | lol |
| 22:43.05 | serris | I really hope I didn't drain all the oyster cards in the house. Getting to Olympia without them will not be fun |
| 22:43.19 | merlinn | can't you buy more? |
| 22:43.27 | merlinn | go go gadget oyster |
| 22:43.37 | cpufreak | I need to charge mine |
| 22:43.39 | cpufreak | keep forgetting |
| 22:43.41 | cpufreak | and getting on the bus |
| 22:43.43 | serris | Yeah |
| 22:43.48 | cpufreak | and having to pay1.50 |
| 22:43.56 | serris | I can charge it but getting to a place to charge it will already cost me 3 quid |
| 22:43.58 | secretlondon | i love the oyster prepay max thing - i never have to bother with buying travelcards and bus passes |
| 22:43.58 | merlinn | ahh you see |
| 22:44.00 | merlinn | bendy bus |
| 22:44.11 | cpufreak | no bendy buses |
| 22:44.12 | merlinn | bendy buses are free |
| 22:44.13 | secretlondon | serris: hell, we have millions round here |
| 22:44.16 | cpufreak | between chelski and fulham |
| 22:44.26 | secretlondon | merlinn: I've been caught once, and checked loads of times |
| 22:44.30 | serris | Well if the shop keepers spoke English around here would help |
| 22:44.34 | merlinn | secretlondon: you have? |
| 22:44.55 | secretlondon | merlinn: yep. caught when drunk for now swiping the thing. and checked every week or so on the 436 |
| 22:44.56 | wethrin | Prepay Max? |
| 22:44.57 | Erwin | You can set up auto-top-up on prepay oysters btw, so they just charge your credit card |
| 22:45.03 | merlinn | ahh I have a secret for that |
| 22:45.07 | merlinn | I got pissed once and didn't swipe |
| 22:45.08 | serris | I'd go by car but I don't particularly like the round about that goes around the Hammersmith bus station |
| 22:45.12 | merlinn | and a bloke came up to me |
| 22:45.16 | merlinn | it was on the DLR |
| 22:45.28 | merlinn | but the theory is cross compatible |
| 22:45.30 | secretlondon | wethrin: not sure of the name - but they max out prepay at travelcard or buspass daily limits |
| 22:45.41 | Erwin | cap |
| 22:45.42 | merlinn | when the inspector asked me for my proof of journey |
| 22:45.43 | cpufreak | I remember whenI did my work experience |
| 22:45.47 | merlinn | I asked him if he was single |
| 22:45.53 | merlinn | and he fucked off |
| 22:45.54 | cpufreak | I work shadowed a magistrate at horseferry road court for a week |
| 22:45.57 | wethrin | secretlondon: Ah, right. Just the normal prepay cap, then |
| 22:46.00 | cpufreak | so many fare evaders there |
| 22:46.00 | secretlondon | yeah |
| 22:46.08 | cpufreak | the magistrate was ace at dealing with them |
| 22:46.15 | merlinn | what did he do? |
| 22:46.23 | cpufreak | he berated them and belittled them |
| 22:46.26 | merlinn | ah |
| 22:46.28 | cpufreak | in very eloquent terms |
| 22:46.32 | trousers | He said "YOU'RE NICKED< SONNY" |
| 22:46.32 | merlinn | just give the address of someone you don't like |
| 22:46.38 | merlinn | and they can't do anything |
| 22:46.42 | keithlard_ | treehouse of horror++ |
| 22:46.52 | cpufreak | except one person thought he was being racist |
| 22:46.53 | merlinn | deliver all our travel tickets to pies |
| 22:46.57 | secretlondon | merlinn: I'd stupidly registered the thing |
| 22:47.04 | merlinn | secretlondon: oh no! |
| 22:47.06 | merlinn | don't do that! |
| 22:47.11 | merlinn | you should never ever ever ever ever do that |
| 22:47.20 | merlinn | it's not just thatt |
| 22:47.24 | secretlondon | they can track you |
| 22:47.26 | serris | The Hounslow train station is not a penalty zone so whenever I take the train to Richmond the Ticket Inspectors are dodgy so if you give 'em a quid or so they bugger off |
| 22:47.38 | merlinn | it's jack straw trying to covertly turn london into a police state |
| 22:48.02 | cpufreak | coz he said "we don't want anyone like you here" - meaning coz they were begging |
| 22:48.15 | cpufreak | and they'd come to england soley to beg |
| 22:48.49 | cpufreak | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/671100.stm + |
| 22:49.23 | cpufreak | was great though, as after finishing in the courts for the day |
| 22:49.36 | cpufreak | he took me to his gentleman's club, for a whiskey + soda and scones |
| 22:49.44 | wethrin | whisky++ |
| 22:49.46 | cpufreak | very civilised :p |
| 22:49.49 | cpufreak | whiskey++ whiskey-- |
| 22:49.53 | wethrin | indeed |
| 22:50.03 | secretlondon | scones :) |
| 22:50.06 | wethrin | whisky should be served neat! |
| 22:50.15 | wethrin | Or with a touch of water, if it's at proper strength |
| 22:50.25 | merlinn | I'm a member of a gentlemens club |
| 22:50.26 | cpufreak | hence a touch of soda water |
| 22:50.29 | merlinn | only women are alloewd in it |
| 22:50.32 | merlinn | it's weird |
| 22:50.33 | *** part/#gllug Gunde (n=spamyous@82.153.170.213) |
| 22:50.34 | cpufreak | lol merl |
| 22:50.44 | cpufreak | I applied a while back for entry to the hurlingham club |
| 22:50.48 | merlinn | I think most gentlemens clubs allow women in them now a days |
| 22:50.48 | cpufreak | they reckon another 10 years |
| 22:50.54 | merlinn | hahaha |
| 22:50.54 | cpufreak | yeh they do |
| 22:50.56 | wethrin | No, no. Soda is wrong |
| 22:51.10 | merlinn | I only use mine for meeting rooms |
| 22:51.17 | merlinn | for 300 quid a year or something |
| 22:51.25 | merlinn | you get unrestricted access to their meeting rooms |
| 22:51.33 | merlinn | hot desks/internet |
| 22:51.51 | merlinn | and their 3* michelin star restaurant |
| 22:52.23 | merlinn | it's far cheaper than the IOD |
| 22:52.40 | cpufreak | merl: have you been to zuma |
| 22:52.43 | cpufreak | in knightsbridge? |
| 22:52.58 | wethrin | IOD? |
| 22:53.10 | merlinn | the japanese restaurant? |
| 22:53.13 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 22:53.16 | merlinn | yeah |
| 22:53.21 | merlinn | wethrin: the institute of directors |
| 22:53.21 | cpufreak | is it nice? |
| 22:53.26 | wethrin | ah |
| 22:53.43 | merlinn | yeah very nice |
| 22:53.46 | cpufreak | cool |
| 22:53.47 | merlinn | but for the price |
| 22:53.52 | cpufreak | is it pricey? |
| 22:53.54 | merlinn | you might as well go to ubon or nobu |
| 22:54.01 | cpufreak | well its not for me |
| 22:54.11 | cpufreak | its for fi's sister's birthday |
| 22:54.15 | merlinn | yeah |
| 22:54.18 | merlinn | it's nice |
| 22:54.26 | merlinn | nice atmosphere as well |
| 22:54.37 | merlinn | you feel like someone should hand you satin sheet in the bogs when you go to take a crap |
| 22:54.52 | merlinn | it's a little 80s in it's lavish decor |
| 22:54.52 | cpufreak | lol |
| 22:54.59 | merlinn | waterfalls dripping down the walls and crap |
| 22:55.25 | merlinn | I seem to remember them having some booze |
| 22:55.34 | merlinn | that was native only to some monastery in okinawa |
| 22:55.46 | merlinn | that got me mullered |
| 22:55.48 | cpufreak | ok |
| 22:55.50 | merlinn | and I made a bit of a tit of myself |
| 22:56.57 | merlinn | I seem to remember the toro was good |
| 22:57.06 | serris | This Christmas I should really just take the train to the work Christmas party. We get free beer |
| 22:57.20 | merlinn | serris: you should always attend work christmas parties |
| 22:57.26 | serris | I have no choice |
| 22:57.30 | serris | We're forced to attend |
| 22:57.41 | merlinn | it's important to attend anyway |
| 22:57.43 | merlinn | even if you arne't |
| 22:58.14 | cpufreak | always go to important work socials |
| 22:58.29 | cpufreak | and ensure you mingle with relevant managers/directors |
| 22:58.33 | serris | Why? So I can see my CTS beat and abuse the other coworkers hiding in the smoking room while 16 people cram in there to escape the managers? |
| 22:58.39 | serris | Ok I must admit, that was rather fun |
| 22:59.00 | serris | I work at Sainsbury's |
| 22:59.26 | cpufreak | on the shop floor? |
| 22:59.30 | serris | Yep |
| 22:59.32 | cpufreak | ah |
| 22:59.34 | cpufreak | temp job then |
| 22:59.40 | serris | Pretty much |
| 22:59.40 | cpufreak | what skills do you have |
| 22:59.58 | merlinn | WE ALL NEED STAFF DAMNIT |
| 23:00.02 | serris | I joined a year ago to get some money as a temp job. Expected to be there about 2 month? |
| 23:00.08 | serris | I'm still stuck there after a year |
| 23:00.18 | cpufreak | what skills do you have? |
| 23:00.24 | cpufreak | merlinn: I need referral bonuses right now |
| 23:00.25 | cpufreak | :P |
| 23:00.36 | merlinn | ;) |
| 23:01.10 | serris | I did a few courses at college so I have the NCFE Level 2 Certificate which would make me a certified IT Tech and the NVQ Level 4 Network Manager cert. |
| 23:01.22 | merlinn | yeah but |
| 23:01.35 | cpufreak | what skills do you have though |
| 23:01.36 | merlinn | what platforms are you familiar wtih? |
| 23:01.48 | cpufreak | do you have any experience in any form of real world? |
| 23:02.07 | serris | Not really, no. Worked part time at a internet cafe/PC repair shop |
| 23:02.15 | serris | That's about it |
| 23:02.21 | merlinn | where are you geographically? |
| 23:02.24 | cpufreak | what do you want to do then? |
| 23:02.26 | serris | Hounslow |
| 23:02.35 | serris | No clue. Hence I'm still at Sainsbury's |
| 23:03.04 | serris | As I said I was applying for a security job down at Heathrow but haven't sent the application yet. Closing date for that is 31st of October |
| 23:03.20 | merlinn | do you wnt to work in it? |
| 23:03.28 | merlinn | or outside of it? |
| 23:03.34 | secretlondon | i'm doing a ccna in evening classes but my main experience is dealing with the public in public bug trackers/support and 3 years of being a senior wikipedian |
| 23:03.34 | serris | What do you mean? |
| 23:03.36 | cpufreak | s/it/IT/ |
| 23:03.43 | serris | ah right |
| 23:04.08 | merlinn | I could probably get you a job in our support department |
| 23:04.18 | serris | Well I mainly use Linux/FreeBSD at home on my desktops but I didn't really have much interest in technical support and repairing PCs. |
| 23:04.29 | merlinn | if you'd be willing to commute to the city |
| 23:04.30 | serris | Mianly cause I was given the task to reformat and install XP |
| 23:04.35 | merlinn | ah |
| 23:04.36 | serris | And I did that about 10 times a day |
| 23:04.40 | merlinn | gaybar |
| 23:05.15 | cpufreak | merlinn: clara are being lame |
| 23:05.20 | cpufreak | not adversiting tech support roles |
| 23:05.24 | merlinn | they exist though |
| 23:05.29 | serris | I don't really have a problem commuting to the city |
| 23:05.29 | cpufreak | exactly |
| 23:05.40 | serris | Picadilly line is about 8 minutes walk away from me |
| 23:05.46 | cpufreak | otherwise, chances are if you're n ot braindead, you could get this job: http://www.uk.clara.net/recruit/noce.php |
| 23:05.55 | cpufreak | secretlondon same applies to you - especially if you're studying for ccna. |
| 23:05.59 | cpufreak | downside is its shift work. |
| 23:06.10 | serris | I work the night shift =/ |
| 23:06.16 | serris | 10PM-8AM |
| 23:06.23 | merlinn | you know we've increased the salary on that quite high |
| 23:06.38 | cpufreak | I know |
| 23:06.45 | cpufreak | to stop us pinching staff from clara :P |
| 23:06.49 | merlinn | haha |
| 23:06.51 | merlinn | yup |
| 23:06.57 | merlinn | did I tell you I got a payrise today? |
| 23:07.00 | cpufreak | nitin's getting about 6k in referral bonuses |
| 23:07.01 | merlinn | lol |
| 23:07.04 | cpufreak | decent one? |
| 23:07.08 | merlinn | well kinda |
| 23:07.09 | merlinn | but not really |
| 23:07.21 | merlinn | I got a 5k annual bonus thing |
| 23:07.25 | merlinn | for moving into presales |
| 23:07.28 | cpufreak | ahh |
| 23:07.28 | merlinn | which is the onyl reason I moved |
| 23:07.36 | cpufreak | you passed your presales probation |
| 23:07.40 | cpufreak | so got the bonus? |
| 23:07.40 | merlinn | but they were also like 'your salary shall remain as' |
| 23:07.42 | merlinn | no |
| 23:07.45 | merlinn | I was product dev manager |
| 23:07.50 | merlinn | up until this week |
| 23:07.53 | merlinn | moved over to presales |
| 23:08.00 | merlinn | to get the extra 5k |
| 23:08.07 | cpufreak | lol |
| 23:08.12 | cpufreak | is it a lump sum |
| 23:08.14 | merlinn | so just got confirmation it happens next month |
| 23:08.16 | cpufreak | or just added to salary |
| 23:08.17 | merlinn | no |
| 23:08.20 | cpufreak | lame |
| 23:08.21 | merlinn | jjust added to salary pro rated |
| 23:08.31 | merlinn | get this though |
| 23:08.40 | merlinn | they were like 'your salary shall remain as X' |
| 23:08.50 | merlinn | where X = 4k more than Y which represents your actual salary |
| 23:09.17 | cpufreak | so you're 9k up? |
| 23:09.23 | serris | I got several offers for being a supervisor at Sainsbury's. Both nightshift and dayshift. but it's basically being a manager but a manager gets 30K+ a year and a CTS gets 16K |
| 23:09.25 | merlinn | so due to a clerical error, I could potentially be 9k up |
| 23:09.31 | cpufreak | nice |
| 23:09.40 | serris | Sounds good merlinn |
| 23:10.14 | cpufreak | I can't wait until july...annual bonus + payreview all at once |
| 23:10.26 | merlinn | you think you'll do okay? |
| 23:10.41 | cpufreak | yep |
| 23:10.41 | merlinn | specificlaly in the pay review |
| 23:10.51 | merlinn | is everyone thinking you rock? |
| 23:11.14 | cpufreak | everyone thought I rocked at clara, when I was demotivated. |
| 23:11.19 | cpufreak | now I'm motivated... :P |
| 23:11.31 | cpufreak | seriously though, manager seems pretty happy |
| 23:11.35 | merlinn | cool |
| 23:11.46 | cpufreak | in that I get about 10-15 emails a week saying "great work" "unbelievable, nice one" |
| 23:11.49 | cpufreak | and so on |
| 23:12.09 | merlinn | blah |
| 23:12.11 | cpufreak | and i've spent months on secondment to architecture |
| 23:12.11 | merlinn | that's bollocks |
| 23:12.12 | serris | I did CCNA for 3-4 motnh at uni |
| 23:12.23 | merlinn | they just want someone who knows whree to look for log files |
| 23:12.24 | cpufreak | and they're happy with my work too |
| 23:12.25 | serris | but the course was 2 years long, 1 day a week and I worked nightshift so it didn't really work |
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| 23:12.52 | deep-blue | Hay serris |
| 23:12.54 | secretlondon | serris: mine is two evenings a week for three terms |
| 23:12.55 | serris | hi |
| 23:13.13 | serris | Ah ok |
| 23:13.25 | catalyst | wheeee |
| 23:13.49 | serris | Well they also taught some other things. VB6 programming, how to create projects with Microsoft Powerpoint and etc |
| 23:13.56 | cpufreak | but yeh merl, if i don't get good bonuses+payrise come july I'll probably go contracting for a few months or sommat. |
| 23:14.04 | secretlondon | oh we thankfully don't get any of that |
| 23:14.05 | cpufreak | but I'd rather not |
| 23:14.15 | merlinn | are you that desperate for wonga? |
| 23:14.20 | cpufreak | like being lazy perm staff, with the benefits, and the relaxed work place |
| 23:14.21 | merlinn | I thought you were pretty minted now |
| 23:14.27 | cpufreak | I'm doing fine |
| 23:14.45 | merlinn | you want to be rich as fuck though? |
| 23:15.00 | merlinn | would you be willing to come out to riyadh with me? |
| 23:15.08 | merlinn | I can probably get you 700 quid a day |
| 23:15.10 | serris | lucky secretlondon |
| 23:15.11 | merlinn | and it'll be tax free |
| 23:15.21 | merlinn | but it's saudi arabia |
| 23:15.27 | serris | That's another reason I left. I didn't want to sit through the power point presentation things so I went home to sleep before work |
| 23:15.31 | merlinn | and you won't get laid for at least 3 months at a time |
| 23:15.35 | cpufreak | I want to be rich enough in 3 years time, so I don't have to work, if i don't want to. |
| 23:15.43 | merlinn | good fucking luck mate |
| 23:15.46 | cpufreak | :P |
| 23:15.48 | merlinn | I've been trying that since I was 12 |
| 23:15.55 | Erwin | It's never enough; getting the money changes you so you want more |
| 23:15.58 | cpufreak | the way I see myself doing this |
| 23:16.07 | cpufreak | is by buying property |
| 23:16.13 | deep-blue | cpufreak: wouldnt you rather do work you enjoy |
| 23:16.16 | cpufreak | deep-blue: yes |
| 23:16.21 | trousers | Okay guys, I'm off for now |
| 23:16.26 | cpufreak | I'm doing work I enjoy |
| 23:16.27 | serris | Well sainsbury's is fun. To an extent |
| 23:16.29 | cpufreak | its paying pretty well |
| 23:16.30 | trousers | See all of you who are there today - today |
| 23:16.31 | serris | It's the same thing |
| 23:16.31 | trousers | Bye |
| 23:16.32 | deep-blue | id still work if i ever win the lottery |
| 23:16.37 | cpufreak | so would I |
| 23:16.41 | cpufreak | but I want to be in a position |
| 23:16.48 | secretlondon | bye trousers |
| 23:16.52 | serris | bye trousers |
| 23:17.08 | cpufreak | where if I want to not work for a few weeks, I can without needing to worry about booking time off just do that |
| 23:17.18 | cpufreak | or go do something else, or whatever |
| 23:17.20 | deep-blue | i can so understand that |
| 23:17.21 | merlinn | yeah that's my problem |
| 23:17.28 | merlinn | I haven't had a proper holiday day in about a year |
| 23:17.34 | merlinn | because I'm always having meetings |
| 23:17.40 | merlinn | on my holiday time |
| 23:18.03 | merlinn | it's a form of oppression is having a job |
| 23:18.05 | serris | secretlondon: I'm not sure how well Xubuntu would run on your 166 but I think Fluxbuntu would have a better chance of running. I think minimum requirements were something like 64MB RAM and 133Mhz |
| 23:18.08 | merlinn | you can never become a billionaire |
| 23:18.10 | cpufreak | and I also wantto be able to afford to buy property in nurburg |
| 23:18.13 | merlinn | because you're too busy working for someone else |
| 23:18.17 | cpufreak | and keep a car there |
| 23:18.22 | cpufreak | ready for me to use whenever I want it |
| 23:18.27 | merlinn | you dildo |
| 23:18.29 | merlinn | lol |
| 23:18.30 | cpufreak | :D |
| 23:18.33 | serris | lol |
| 23:18.36 | cpufreak | seriously |
| 23:18.41 | cpufreak | the nurburgring is my second home |
| 23:18.41 | deep-blue | car!? |
| 23:18.42 | secretlondon | serris: I've had it running xfce before |
| 23:18.43 | deep-blue | CAR!!! |
| 23:18.49 | serris | not bad |
| 23:18.50 | deep-blue | why drive if you are a billionaire |
| 23:18.50 | merlinn | I want enough money to keep a second girlfriend |
| 23:18.54 | cpufreak | deep-blue: I love driving. |
| 23:18.58 | deep-blue | thats what choppers and private jets are for |
| 23:18.59 | deep-blue | lol fair nuff |
| 23:19.07 | serris | Yeah, driving's fun |
| 23:19.40 | cpufreak | merlinn: when we go to visit thom |
| 23:19.44 | cpufreak | you're not doing any work |
| 23:19.47 | deep-blue | i still wont know for a few more weeks or so |
| 23:19.50 | serris | Especially getting to work and getting home, 9:36PM, A316 is dead, 7AM A316 is dead again |
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| 23:20.06 | cpufreak | serris: I was meaning on race tracks |
| 23:20.09 | serris | Ah |
| 23:20.16 | deep-blue | SOAB ive got one cigarette left |
| 23:20.20 | cpufreak | hence nurburgring |
| 23:20.23 | cpufreak | deep-blue: throw it away |
| 23:20.24 | cpufreak | give it up |
| 23:20.37 | deep-blue | bwahaha funny stuff :p |
| 23:20.39 | serris | Is there a difference between nurunburg and a semi empty a316? |
| 23:20.50 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 23:20.52 | deep-blue | serris: |
| 23:20.59 | deep-blue | you know that circuit we race on Forza? |
| 23:21.01 | cpufreak | (a) the tarmac is completely different |
| 23:21.05 | deep-blue | the fuck off 15 min one? |
| 23:21.13 | cpufreak | (b) its legal, so no risk of points |
| 23:21.18 | cpufreak | (c) its got 148 corners |
| 23:21.25 | deep-blue | its awesome >< |
| 23:21.29 | serris | =/ |
| 23:21.30 | cpufreak | deep-blue: 8mins 52 is my best time in my own car. |
| 23:21.45 | deep-blue | id love to drive it in real life |
| 23:21.50 | deep-blue | whatcha drive? |
| 23:21.51 | cpufreak | oh and (d) the karussel |
| 23:21.54 | cpufreak | BMW M3 CSL |
| 23:21.56 | serris | I've never managed to get points on that stretch |
| 23:22.30 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/nurburgring2006.jpg |
| 23:22.30 | deep-blue | niiiiice |
| 23:22.36 | serris | That looks similar to what my mom has |
| 23:22.45 | cpufreak | really? :P |
| 23:22.54 | cpufreak | there's only 420 CSLs in the UK. |
| 23:22.54 | deep-blue | OFFS i cant get suse10.1 to see my fuckin VIA sata controller |
| 23:22.58 | deep-blue | nice car! |
| 23:23.08 | cpufreak | but yeh it is just a bmw 3 series |
| 23:23.09 | serris | I said similar, not "That's the same make my mom has" |
| 23:23.17 | cpufreak | which are more popular than mondeos :P |
| 23:23.39 | serris | I drive a nifty Skoda Fabia |
| 23:23.45 | cpufreak | vRS? |
| 23:23.48 | deep-blue | and I speak from experience |
| 23:23.58 | deep-blue | it is a nimble little fucker with excellent acceleration |
| 23:25.02 | cpufreak | serris: if its a vRS take it up to revo and get it remapped |
| 23:25.20 | serris | I don't have money |
| 23:25.25 | serris | Sainsbury's doesn't really pay well |
| 23:26.03 | cpufreak | ahh |
| 23:26.10 | cpufreak | I had trial code from them on my previous two cars |
| 23:26.15 | cpufreak | well r+d code |
| 23:26.19 | cpufreak | as I helped them develop it |
| 23:26.35 | cpufreak | ages ago had an ibiza 1.9 tdi pd130, same as the fabia vRS more or less |
| 23:26.39 | cpufreak | then got an audi s4 |
| 23:26.48 | serris | my mate has an Audi A4 |
| 23:26.57 | serris | 1.6 litre turbo |
| 23:27.13 | serris | No one wants to really sit in his car anymore when he drives |
| 23:27.31 | serris | The car is too powerful for him |
| 23:28.12 | serris | The day he got it, we went down to the car park at work. Within a loop he nearly managed to hit 2 people, 3 cars and failed to yield while driving out onto the A316 with traffic coming |
| 23:28.16 | serris | That was not fun |
| 23:28.44 | secretlondon | serris: is that a brain prob, or a car prob? |
| 23:28.51 | cpufreak | brain |
| 23:28.53 | serris | Bit of both |
| 23:28.58 | cpufreak | the A4 chassis is pretty safe |
| 23:29.01 | serris | I think he bought the car for 5 grand |
| 23:29.14 | serris | so far he probably spent a further 1.5 grand on it |
| 23:29.42 | serris | The fly wheel broke, he broke one of the side mirrors, scratched the side twice, the airbag was bust, etc |
| 23:30.22 | serris | But it drives pretty well. I did a few laps around the parking lot with it |
| 23:31.04 | serris | But it's a rather fast car. We went down the A316 at 7AM while driving home from work, he left me standing as he wooshed by at 80+mph |
| 23:33.31 | deep-blue | serr u takin some cash with u tomorrow? |
| 23:33.58 | serris | probably |
| 23:34.05 | serris | I found a tenner under my keyboard the other day |
| 23:34.18 | deep-blue | safe |
| 23:34.29 | serris | yeah it was a happy surprise |
| 23:35.17 | serris | deep-blue: wanna go to the feltham tesco? |
| 23:35.30 | deep-blue | cant right now, gotta get into work early, so ima head to bed in 5 min |
| 23:35.42 | serris | ok |
| 23:36.17 | deep-blue | wish i had the whole day off |
| 23:36.29 | deep-blue | hell wish i also had thursday to make a second pass + visit the linux expo |
| 23:36.36 | serris | Yer. I got no work 'till Thursday |
| 23:37.05 | deep-blue | *mac expo |
| 23:38.22 | deep-blue | WTF >< |
| 23:38.25 | deep-blue | bwahahaha |
| 23:38.40 | deep-blue | 25 s5 has some audio loops from freakin Garageband on mac >< |
| 23:41.18 | deep-blue | bah |
| 23:41.23 | deep-blue | anywho, ima head to bed |
| 23:41.43 | deep-blue | serris: ill catch you n MF round midday at my shope k? |
| 23:41.55 | serris | ok |
| 23:41.58 | serris | cya tomorrow |
| 23:42.32 | deep-blue | aye, and i think ima have to get a spare hdd at work, 24 s1-5 is like 45gb total >< |
| 23:50.55 | secretlondon | bah the gnaa are doing a piss poor attempt at trolling |
| 23:51.06 | wethrin | heh |
| 23:51.22 | secretlondon | lilo porn i think |
| 23:51.47 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 23:51.50 | secretlondon | indeed |
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| 23:54.56 | eeeeyore | anyone here? |
| 23:54.59 | secretlondon | yep |
| 23:55.01 | wethrin | nooooo |
| 23:55.08 | eeeeyore | well alrighty then |
| 23:55.35 | eeeeyore | any idea if there is any way to upgrade fedora using a dvd, if you can't boot of the dvd drive. |
| 23:56.03 | secretlondon | i'm no experience of fedora, sorry |
| 23:56.05 | wethrin | Point yum at the repository on the packages? |
| 23:56.05 | secretlondon | i've |
| 23:56.43 | wethrin | OR just use the magic interweb method of updating |
| 23:56.46 | secretlondon | thats can break stuff with ubuntu - you need to tell synaptic that we have a new cd first |
| 23:57.05 | eeeeyore | it's a pain i can't work out how to boot off the dvd drive |
| 23:57.21 | wethrin | BIOS settings - set primary boot device |
| 23:57.23 | secretlondon | bios problem? |
| 23:57.32 | eeeeyore | possibly |
| 23:57.38 | wethrin | Unless you have a real computer. In which case 'boot cdrom', or equivalent |
| 23:57.41 | eeeeyore | i have 2 cdrom drives and one shows up |
| 23:57.44 | secretlondon | is the dvd bootable? |
| 23:57.55 | eeeeyore | i coult take the pc apart and put it back with only one dvd drive |
| 23:58.01 | eeeeyore | but i suspect it might still not boot it |
| 23:58.07 | wethrin | Master/slave troubles? |
| 23:58.09 | eeeeyore | and then it would be an hour later |
| 23:58.11 | secretlondon | does bios have a cdrom1 cdrom2 ? |
| 23:58.18 | eeeeyore | no |
| 23:58.21 | eeeeyore | just cdrom |
| 23:58.28 | wethrin | auto-detect? |
| 23:58.37 | eeeeyore | i don't think it has that option |
| 23:59.07 | eeeeyore | it may just be that it doesn't spin up in time to boot |
| 23:59.10 | eeeeyore | it's a bit old |
| 23:59.17 | eeeeyore | works fine from within linux |
