| 00:01.01 | eeeeyore | oh sod it i'll try disconnecting the other drive |
| 00:01.32 | secretlondon | prob the best option |
| 00:02.09 | wethrin | I found that happened with mine. I turned the BIOS auto-detection on, and then it was detected by the BIOS |
| 00:02.13 | wethrin | Worked okay in Linux |
| 00:02.55 | wethrin | Hm.....OpenBSD may support my wireless network card |
| 00:05.43 | wethrin | This means I might be able to get rid of my only Windows machine |
| 00:05.48 | secretlondon | yay |
| 00:05.48 | eeeeyore | okay switched out the cdrom drive and the usb keyboard and it seems to be working so far! |
| 00:06.04 | wethrin | hurrah |
| 00:06.35 | eeeeyore | of course i skip the disc check, probably will regret that in half an hour :) |
| 00:07.19 | secretlondon | yay |
| 00:09.02 | eeeeyore | oh, i have FC4 |
| 00:09.08 | eeeeyore | i don't think it's going to upgrade that |
| 00:09.10 | wethrin | That's old |
| 00:10.17 | secretlondon | i found red hat 6.1 the other day |
| 00:10.49 | eeeeyore | maybe i can just reinstall but leave my home dir or something |
| 00:11.31 | wethrin | I have RedHat 5.1 for Alpha at home somewhere |
| 00:11.34 | wethrin | And 6.2 for Sparc |
| 00:11.38 | wethrin | Deluxe Edition, no less |
| 00:11.39 | wethrin | IIRC |
| 00:11.54 | secretlondon | ooh delux! |
| 00:12.20 | wethrin | It's gathering dust on my shelf. Interested in it? |
| 00:13.59 | secretlondon | no use to me |
| 00:14.03 | secretlondon | I don't have any suns |
| 00:14.05 | eeeeyore | well that was fun |
| 00:14.12 | eeeeyore | i'm clearly going to have to install FC5 first |
| 00:14.35 | wethrin | secretlondon: They're easy to come by |
| 00:15.27 | secretlondon | wethrin: really? |
| 00:15.50 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 00:16.03 | wethrin | Keep an eye out on the Freecycle lists, for a start |
| 00:16.11 | wethrin | Most of mine were university rescues |
| 00:16.15 | keithlard_ | oh no! someone is having a fight outside my flat! |
| 00:16.16 | wethrin | My SGI gear certainly was |
| 00:16.21 | wethrin | keithlard_: Pour milk over them |
| 00:16.22 | secretlondon | where is freecycle? |
| 00:16.33 | wethrin | google://london freecycle |
| 00:16.39 | wethrin | (i.e. I don't know the location of the mailing list) |
| 00:16.43 | secretlondon | k ty |
| 00:16.52 | wethrin | I think there's a list maintained at freecycle.org |
| 00:17.02 | keithlard_ | freecycle++ |
| 00:17.07 | wethrin | I'd guess it's likely to be a busy list, though |
| 00:17.12 | keithlard_ | hmm they seem to have made up now |
| 00:17.21 | wethrin | The Newcastle one tends to get around 30-40 posts a day |
| 00:17.24 | secretlondon | keithlard: I blame beer |
| 00:17.38 | wethrin | No no no! Beer can do no wrong! |
| 00:18.12 | keithlard_ | no... fighting again |
| 00:18.24 | secretlondon | i mere;y have an athlon 2800, a duron 750 and a p166 |
| 00:18.39 | secretlondon | weird hardware is good - mine is tame |
| 00:21.38 | secretlondon | and I'm danmed if I know either ;) |
| 00:21.53 | keithlard_ | and shrieking |
| 00:25.27 | secretlondon | nb if you want your bug to be noticed don't file it against some really weird bit of universe when it's actually a problem with the installer |
| 00:31.18 | secretlondon | london freecycle - 32652 members |
| 00:31.47 | secretlondon | bout 4000 messages a month |
| 00:33.22 | wethrin | That's quite a bit |
| 00:33.31 | wethrin | You'll be learning about mail filters, then :) |
| 00:33.51 | secretlondon | I probably can't download it all on this connection - I have mad leeched wireless |
| 00:34.39 | secretlondon | i'll see what it's like for the first day - and may set to journal or something |
| 00:34.46 | secretlondon | but that may mean I miss everything |
| 00:35.32 | wethrin | Currently in this place, I have (that I personally own), 3 PCs (inc. laptop), two Macs (inc. laptop), two SGI machines, 2 Alphas, one VAX, one (non-working) HP Apollo, and 7 Sparc64s |
| 00:35.48 | wethrin | And a BBC |
| 00:35.55 | secretlondon | oh I have an electron |
| 00:36.00 | wethrin | Nice |
| 00:36.04 | secretlondon | doesn't run linux afaik |
| 00:36.28 | wethrin | Nowt wrong wi' BBC BASIC |
| 00:37.11 | eeeeyore | i learn't to program on BBC basic |
| 00:37.11 | wethrin | eww |
| 00:37.20 | wethrin | Oh, I have a Psion 5 too |
| 00:37.27 | eeeeyore | i had a psion |
| 00:37.29 | secretlondon | eeeyore: me too |
| 00:37.31 | eeeeyore | series 5 |
| 00:37.41 | eeeeyore | i miss it dearly |
| 00:37.44 | wethrin | Didn't the C64 have something called Lunix? (Little Unix) |
| 00:37.54 | eeeeyore | one day i put it into my inside coat pocket |
| 00:37.58 | wethrin | I don't use it, but it feels wrong to not have it |
| 00:38.06 | *** part/#gllug toby (n=toby@host-87-74-56-126.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 00:38.31 | eeeeyore | only turned out that wasn't my pocket it was my sleeve, through it went like a slide and out onto the concrete. |
| 00:38.40 | secretlondon | the bbc micro had a tube thing that allowed a z80 processor |
| 00:38.50 | eeeeyore | i used to write some OPL too |
| 00:38.54 | wethrin | I have a double-processor Apple 2 |
| 00:39.00 | wethrin | So it can run Apple stuff, and CP/M |
| 00:39.18 | eeeeyore | i had a conversion of a pascal game i had written 95% complete at the time of breakage |
| 00:39.19 | secretlondon | we had an amstrad which could run cp/m |
| 00:39.30 | wethrin | PCW? |
| 00:39.38 | secretlondon | cpc 6128 |
| 00:39.38 | wethrin | eeeeyore: Ouch |
| 00:39.43 | wethrin | Ah, don't have one of those |
| 00:39.49 | wethrin | Somewhere hidden in a box I have a PC1512DD |
| 00:39.57 | secretlondon | my dad had it until recently but threw it out :( |
| 00:40.17 | wethrin | that was naughty |
| 00:40.30 | secretlondon | he wouldn't get why i'd want it |
| 00:40.35 | wethrin | I'm going to drastically reduce the amount of crap I have at (parents') home around Christmas-time, though |
| 00:40.46 | catalyst | although I suppose that's a secret :( |
| 00:40.53 | wethrin | catalyst: Probably closer than most of the Glluggers :) |
| 00:40.53 | secretlondon | catalyst: the gllug bit is also a giveaway |
| 00:41.04 | catalyst | surely not! |
| 00:41.15 | catalyst | though I'm currently closer to london than I usually am |
| 00:41.24 | wethrin | Oh, you're in Amersham? |
| 00:41.26 | catalyst | aye |
| 00:41.28 | catalyst | that I am |
| 00:41.28 | wethrin | cool |
| 00:41.29 | secretlondon | well I'm actually in zone 2 as we type |
| 00:41.36 | catalyst | I'm in special zone D |
| 00:41.41 | catalyst | so, err, HAH |
| 00:41.43 | wethrin | You're SPESHUL! |
| 00:41.43 | catalyst | ¬_¬ |
| 00:41.44 | secretlondon | ooh you must be special |
| 00:41.45 | catalyst | yay |
| 00:41.55 | catalyst | I am special :) |
| 00:41.55 | catalyst | (in many ways) |
| 00:42.11 | wethrin | It's a bit irritating that I can get half price travel to London just by nipping a couple of miles up the road to Amersham |
| 00:42.30 | secretlondon | you have the met line up there i think |
| 00:42.43 | catalyst | only when it's running XD |
| 00:42.53 | catalyst | it's quicker to get an overland train into marylebone |
| 00:43.04 | catalyst | wethrin: where are you? |
| 00:43.11 | wethrin | catalyst: Currently? Durham |
| 00:43.17 | wethrin | Otherwise Beaconsfield |
| 00:43.18 | catalyst | wethrin: where are you normally? |
| 00:43.20 | catalyst | ah right |
| 00:43.25 | wethrin | Normally Durham :) |
| 00:43.54 | catalyst | ah right |
| 00:44.43 | wethrin | I'll be around Beac. over the Christma period. We should have beer if you're around |
| 00:44.58 | catalyst | ooh |
| 00:45.00 | secretlondon | beer is always good, but perhaps not in beaconsfield |
| 00:45.15 | wethrin | secretlondon: Why not? There's some nice pubs in the Old Town |
| 00:45.15 | catalyst | it is my mission to come on more GLLUG things |
| 00:45.22 | catalyst | so far I've been to about half of one |
| 00:45.31 | wethrin | catalyst: That was a micro-LBW |
| 00:45.31 | secretlondon | wethrin: it's getting there and back on the 0p I live on |
| 00:45.38 | catalyst | wethrin: case closed :( |
| 00:45.43 | catalyst | ooh |
| 00:45.44 | catalyst | though |
| 00:45.48 | wethrin | secretlondon: Minor issue |
| 00:45.49 | catalyst | can I say I've been on an LBW? |
| 00:46.04 | catalyst | secretlondon: we can subsidise travel >:) |
| 00:46.11 | secretlondon | ooh |
| 00:46.14 | catalyst | where "we" is people who work for a living |
| 00:46.21 | catalyst | since I'm a poor student |
| 00:46.28 | catalyst | I don't think I count ¬_¬ |
| 00:46.31 | catalyst | ie |
| 00:46.34 | catalyst | wethrin can pay \o/ |
| 00:46.36 | catalyst | XD |
| 00:46.39 | secretlondon | i'm an fe student and dole scrounger |
| 00:46.47 | catalyst | wayhey |
| 00:46.50 | secretlondon | but at some point i'll get my ccna |
| 00:46.54 | catalyst | CCNA? |
| 00:47.03 | secretlondon | cisco assoc. level qualification |
| 00:47.41 | secretlondon | cisco certified network associate |
| 00:47.49 | catalyst | swish |
| 00:47.49 | secretlondon | newbie networker |
| 00:47.56 | secretlondon | doing an an fe college |
| 00:48.02 | catalyst | I once tried to put a network together |
| 00:48.09 | catalyst | then my housemates did it properly |
| 00:48.17 | catalyst | now I am at their mercy |
| 00:48.37 | wethrin | catalyst: I'm a poor student! |
| 00:48.38 | secretlondon | i was like that with linux so I changed distro and educated myself |
| 00:48.45 | catalyst | wethrin: lies! |
| 00:48.58 | wethrin | catalyst: It's true! I spend all my money on good booze |
| 00:49.06 | catalyst | this is acceptable |
| 00:49.11 | wethrin | I don't even have enough to spend on fast cars or women |
| 00:49.14 | catalyst | I go to football matches instead of lectures |
| 00:49.25 | wethrin | Good plan |
| 00:49.27 | catalyst | I prefer slower women, otherwise they run off without me :( |
| 00:49.32 | secretlondon | wethrin: you must have a fabulous leccy bill tho |
| 00:49.58 | wethrin | One of my friends, who's a rugby referee, said he can score tickets to some international game up in Edinburggh around March |
| 00:50.13 | wethrin | secretlondon: Haven't got one since housemates have arrived :) |
| 00:50.18 | wethrin | I've only got a few things on |
| 00:50.28 | wethrin | Um...4 computers |
| 00:50.30 | secretlondon | wethrin: ah - I supposed you'd blow the fuse first |
| 00:50.55 | wethrin | space? |
| 00:50.57 | wethrin | Err, leccy |
| 00:51.27 | catalyst | I own 2 computers |
| 00:51.36 | catalyst | my housemate, in the room above me, owns about 40 |
| 00:51.44 | wethrin | Excellent! |
| 00:51.45 | catalyst | at any time, 6 or 7 at least are on |
| 00:51.55 | catalyst | he has 3 racks in his room |
| 00:51.56 | wethrin | I lost count of how many I have in total |
| 00:52.03 | wethrin | Although they're spread between 3 places |
| 00:52.04 | catalyst | I live in fear of them collapsing into mine |
| 00:52.21 | wethrin | I was just going to get a 3/4 height and 1/2 height one |
| 00:52.31 | wethrin | On the grounds a full height is just a bit too unweildy |
| 00:52.43 | catalyst | this doesn't bother Andy :) |
| 00:52.55 | catalyst | unweildy is his middle name |
| 00:53.02 | catalyst | well, actually it's not |
| 00:53.34 | wethrin | If you saw the place I'm in, you'd understand unweildy :) |
| 00:53.46 | wethrin | Steep stairs, followed by some rather sharp turns |
| 00:54.01 | secretlondon | my bug person has managed to tell me he's having a kernel panic |
| 00:54.01 | wethrin | Also a 7' rack has issues getting through a 6'something door |
| 00:54.02 | catalyst | ah! ever read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency? |
| 00:54.05 | wethrin | Yes |
| 00:54.10 | catalyst | do you own a sofa? |
| 00:54.15 | wethrin | And the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul |
| 00:54.21 | wethrin | No. They're the landlord's |
| 00:54.27 | catalyst | is it on the stairs? |
| 00:54.36 | catalyst | secretlondon: always a bonus :) |
| 00:54.57 | secretlondon | previously we just had a black screen and a flashing cursor |
| 00:54.58 | wethrin | secretlondon: Get a sofa |
| 00:55.00 | catalyst | if you pretend to know what you're doing, other people tend to follow along on the principle that they don't but if someone else does then it's alright |
| 00:55.01 | wethrin | catalyst: No |
| 00:55.19 | catalyst | this is a problem in lemming based societies |
| 00:55.21 | secretlondon | i'm the only person active in the bug channel, so I must be in charge, right? |
| 00:55.28 | wethrin | Yes |
| 00:55.32 | catalyst | yes |
| 00:55.46 | catalyst | you could tell me which channel it is and let me answer the questions |
| 00:55.52 | catalyst | I'm sure I can pretend to be qualified |
| 00:55.53 | secretlondon | #ubuntu-bugs |
| 00:55.56 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:56.17 | catalyst | :D |
| 00:56.34 | catalyst | I'm currently on a quest to find open source software to replace all the apps I use under windows |
| 00:56.41 | catalyst | just because I felt like it |
| 00:56.54 | wethrin | For work purposes, that's not possible |
| 00:57.12 | wethrin | For home purposes, I use nothing that requires Windows. Except possibly my wireless card |
| 00:57.21 | wethrin | But that could well be supported by OpenBSD |
| 00:57.23 | wethrin | Theo++ |
| 00:57.49 | wethrin | Hopefully it'd even support WPA |
| 00:58.35 | wethrin | Or whatever the current encryption buzzword is |
| 00:58.46 | secretlondon | wpa 2 |
| 00:58.58 | catalyst | which is why I generally run windows |
| 00:59.09 | catalyst | that and it doesn't self destruct so often as mandriva seems to on my box |
| 00:59.20 | secretlondon | I'm told that world of warcraft can run under wine, my ex everquest 2 doesn't |
| 00:59.28 | wethrin | *nod* Whatever it is, it works with my Mac, and the Windows drivers |
| 01:00.41 | secretlondon | second life - the sex, gambling and drama simulator has an alpha linux client |
| 01:01.17 | secretlondon | bah 2am |
| 01:01.31 | catalyst | Bugger. My mp3 player's been playing by itself in my pocket for potentially several hours |
| 01:01.38 | catalyst | I hope it lasts the trip back to Soton |
| 01:01.38 | wethrin | Recharge! |
| 01:01.45 | catalyst | I have no charger here :( |
| 01:01.46 | wethrin | Charge it overnight |
| 01:01.49 | wethrin | bah |
| 01:01.57 | catalyst | secretlondon: I've gone to bed at 7am the past two nights running |
| 01:02.07 | wethrin | heh |
| 01:02.52 | wethrin | Coo. Gllug list has 598 members |
| 01:03.45 | secretlondon | my canon digicam takes a mere 4 aa batteries.. |
| 01:03.58 | serris | My wife is recharging her camera too for tomorrow |
| 01:04.14 | secretlondon | we have plans to blog and stuff |
| 01:04.19 | serris | : ) |
| 01:04.27 | secretlondon | promotional stuff |
| 01:04.28 | wethrin | I used to have a Canon, until it got lost somewhere |
| 01:04.34 | wethrin | Now I have a bigger one |
| 01:04.42 | serris | She just went to bed. Told her I'm waking her up at 7AM so she can get ready. She didn't welcome the idea |
| 01:04.45 | secretlondon | i have a film slr but never use it as its film |
| 01:04.59 | wethrin | Digital SLR's the way to go |
| 01:05.07 | serris | She has a Olympus E500 DSLR |
| 01:05.09 | secretlondon | yeah but they cost ££ |
| 01:05.09 | serris | It's a nifty camera |
| 01:05.14 | wethrin | nice |
| 01:05.16 | serris | This was 360 quid |
| 01:05.19 | secretlondon | and they can be too big for use |
| 01:05.20 | wethrin | Eh, a friend paid for half of it |
| 01:05.35 | wethrin | It's a bit inconvenient if I'm walking in large groups up mountains |
| 01:05.39 | serris | With 2 batteries, 1GB memory card, usb memory card reader and a carrybag |
| 01:05.41 | secretlondon | canon and nikon are best in the field if you can |
| 01:05.43 | serris | Ebay ftw |
| 01:05.59 | serris | The 360 includes shipping + VAT |
| 01:06.52 | wethrin | The D200 is apparently lovely |
| 01:06.55 | serris | My wife could probably argue to the contrary to that, secretlondon. She has conversations with deep-blue when he's over about it. But I kind of just switch my mind off when they do so and if my name ever comes up in the conversation I just nod and smile |
| 01:07.17 | secretlondon | ah |
| 01:08.07 | serris | So I don't really have facts as to why Olympus is one of the better ones to get but yeah |
| 01:08.21 | serris | It's rather a nice camera. The macro mod is a bit shoddy |
| 01:08.25 | serris | The flash burns your retina |
| 01:08.39 | wethrin | Olympus make nice film cameras. No-one seems to be hugely convinced by their digital offerings, though |
| 01:08.58 | cpufreak | problem with canon is the quality |
| 01:08.59 | serris | But it's quite easy to use. Her old point and shoot digital camera, every single shot I took with it unless we were outside in direct sunlight had major camera shake |
| 01:09.09 | serris | this has really good quality |
| 01:09.11 | cpufreak | I've got a eos 5d, and an old eos5 |
| 01:09.22 | cpufreak | my old eos5 is really good quality |
| 01:09.25 | cpufreak | never had a problem |
| 01:09.31 | serris | wethrin: I know |
| 01:09.33 | cpufreak | the eos5d has been back 2 or 3 times |
| 01:09.40 | cpufreak | and its only a few months old |
| 01:09.45 | serris | but whenever she posts her pictures on sites, everyone says "OMG what camera did you use?!?!?!" |
| 01:09.45 | cpufreak | i swear by canon lenses tho |
| 01:09.53 | serris | And she says Olympus, and no one believes her |
| 01:10.44 | wethrin | A lot of camera stuff is the operator |
| 01:10.51 | secretlondon | of course |
| 01:11.04 | serris | Then again most people don't really seem to grasp the fact, it's not the camera that counts, it's the person taking the picutres |
| 01:11.07 | serris | pictures* |
| 01:11.14 | wethrin | The Nikkor lenses are good. The Sigma ones are cheap, and seem to be of sufficient quality that they're fine unless you're a professional |
| 01:11.16 | secretlondon | but a lot is the lenses, and that matters more than a crude megapixel count |
| 01:11.30 | serris | Yeah |
| 01:11.39 | serris | I think this is a 4Megapixel? |
| 01:11.42 | serris | I'm not really sure actually |
| 01:11.54 | wethrin | It's also said about musical instruments that a professional is someone who can make a good sound out of a bad instrument |
| 01:12.04 | serris | yeah |
| 01:12.16 | serris | Or playing online games. you can have the best rig out there but it's not going to make you any better |
| 01:12.47 | serris | It all helps improve things but at the end of the day it's down to the person taking the pictures |
| 01:13.23 | catalyst | goodnight london |
| 01:13.26 | wethrin | indeed |
| 01:13.28 | catalyst | and durham |
| 01:13.28 | serris | g'night |
| 01:13.31 | wethrin | night catalyst :) |
| 01:13.34 | catalyst | XD |
| 01:13.38 | wethrin | or even, Amersham |
| 01:13.42 | secretlondon | night cat |
| 01:14.26 | wethrin | Depending what I take pictures of, I tend to dispose of about 1/4-3/4 of the pictures I take |
| 01:14.45 | wethrin | But there's normally only a small number in each set that look *really* good |
| 01:15.00 | serris | I took Photography AS. Out of lets say every 34 pictures only about 2-3 came out fairly good |
| 01:15.10 | secretlondon | well you take as many as you've got storage space for - its not film |
| 01:15.24 | serris | That's why for example fashion photographers click away 300-400 pictures and end up selecting one or two |
| 01:15.53 | wethrin | indeed |
| 01:16.06 | wethrin | When I was taking pictures of a cricket match, or horseracing, I got rid of most of the pictures I took before I even downloaded them |
| 01:16.59 | serris | I didn't really either. Mostof my classes were spent at home bunking or outside smoking in the name of "Waiting for my prints to dry" |
| 01:17.15 | wethrin | heh |
| 01:17.37 | serris | but the teacher didn't teach much. If you talk to my wife about photography for 30 minutes you learn more than what I learnt in a year |
| 01:17.49 | wethrin | ooh, Social has 135 members |
| 01:18.05 | wethrin | I've never even seen a 10% turnout |
| 01:18.17 | serris | heh |
| 01:18.33 | wethrin | Are people so averse to beer on a Friday night? |
| 01:18.36 | serris | I wouldn't mind going to some GLLUG meetings but from what I notied, a lot of them fall on the nights I work |
| 01:18.46 | wethrin | Most are on Saturdays |
| 01:18.50 | serris | That's the problem |
| 01:18.54 | serris | I workon the weekend |
| 01:18.57 | serris | work on* |
| 01:19.24 | wethrin | ah. Mostly (i.e. unless someone organises one), socials are on Fridays that I'm passing through London |
| 01:19.43 | serris | It'd be rather suiting. I hvae to stack beers, wines and spirits on Saturday night so if I turned up drunk to work it'd be a lot of fun |
| 01:19.50 | serris | Friday's no good either. I work then too =/ |
| 01:20.02 | wethrin | bah |
| 01:20.05 | serris | I know |
| 01:20.27 | serris | but I have a week off in November and I'mplanning to attend atleast one social event then |
| 01:20.36 | serris | Plus I'm going to the linux expo today |
| 01:20.45 | serris | So will check in to say hi at the GLLUG stand |
| 01:22.59 | wethrin | Email the list and demand beer |
| 01:23.13 | serris | hehe |
| 01:23.16 | serris | I have a bunch of beer at home |
| 01:23.20 | serris | I think over 30 cans |
| 01:24.14 | serris | I bought an 18 pack of fosters for a fiver at work |
| 01:24.33 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 01:24.53 | serris | well I don't really drink fosters. Bought it for a mate since it was cheap. But hten he never took it away |
| 01:25.03 | serris | So it's sitting in my kitchen |
| 01:25.30 | serris | Hmm... I'mtempted to put a few in the fridge and drink later |
| 01:26.15 | serris | hehe |
| 01:26.27 | serris | Have you tried that fruity white Kronnenbourg 1664 |
| 01:26.45 | wethrin | Kronenbourg Blanc? |
| 01:26.50 | serris | yeah |
| 01:26.58 | wethrin | I've had some of that in London, where I found it quite refreshing |
| 01:27.09 | wethrin | I had one up at the Edinburgh festival this year, and it was awful |
| 01:27.12 | serris | I thought it was quite good |
| 01:27.21 | serris | Hmm.. Was it bottled or tapped? |
| 01:28.19 | wethrin | Tapped |
| 01:28.25 | wethrin | It was served in plastic, which is just wrong |
| 01:28.31 | serris | yep |
| 01:28.37 | serris | That's the problem |
| 01:28.40 | serris | The bottled one is very nice |
| 01:29.32 | wethrin | Try some Innis & Gunn, if you can find it |
| 01:29.39 | wethrin | Tesco and/or Waitrose might have it |
| 01:29.48 | serris | I stack it weekly |
| 01:29.54 | serris | Tiny bottles |
| 01:31.13 | wethrin | 330ml or so |
| 01:32.41 | serris | Soemthing like that, yes |
| 01:38.14 | wethrin | I should probably do something about sleeping |
| 01:40.50 | secretlondon | i have an expo to go to. |
| 01:45.21 | wethrin | Er |
| 01:45.24 | wethrin | liverjournal? |
| 01:45.32 | wethrin | methinks the booze doth protest too much |
| 01:46.12 | wethrin | Right. Sleeptinme |
| 01:46.13 | wethrin | nn! |
| 01:46.44 | secretlondon | night |
| 06:30.53 | *** join/#gllug CopeDe (n=3ebd3982@mozrat01.vm.bytemark.co.uk) |
| 06:31.07 | mozrat | Cope! |
| 06:31.16 | CopeDe | hello mozrat |
| 06:31.24 | mozrat | How are you? |
| 06:31.31 | CopeDe | fine thanks :) |
| 06:31.36 | mozrat | goody :D |
| 06:32.50 | CopeDe | and also with you? |
| 06:33.05 | murb | moin |
| 06:33.10 | mozrat | Pretty good thanks - just getting ready for the Expo today |
| 06:33.17 | mozrat | back in a sec |
| 06:34.21 | CopeDe | ah, das expo |
| 06:41.15 | murb | die expo |
| 06:41.40 | CopeDe | :) hello murb! |
| 06:44.59 | murb | he turned off his alarm clock and has now missed the tiler :( |
| 06:45.13 | CopeDe | bother |
| 06:45.20 | CopeDe | hello rh |
| 06:45.21 | CopeDe | owe |
| 06:45.29 | murb | however i do have a seemingly functioning openbsd in xen |
| 06:45.39 | CopeDe | this is good! |
| 06:45.39 | CopeDe | :) |
| 06:46.11 | murb | oh and qemu++ |
| 06:48.14 | CopeDe | murb: are you in the fatherland? |
| 06:48.30 | murb | ich wohn im oberfranken. |
| 06:49.32 | CopeDe | Nearly Bavarian? |
| 06:49.45 | CopeDe | Ich bin im Frankfurt am Main |
| 06:50.58 | murb | franken ist zwei hunderjahr im bayern :( |
| 06:51.44 | murb | (it was sold by the french) |
| 06:51.55 | murb | CopeDe: what are you doing in ffm? |
| 06:51.56 | CopeDe | lol |
| 06:52.10 | murb | sabinef72: yes it is all your fault. |
| 06:52.31 | CopeDe | murb: visiting a site, helping users, measuring (and fixing) performance problems |
| 06:53.41 | mozrat | *phew* |
| 06:53.45 | mozrat | so unorganised this month |
| 06:54.04 | CopeDe | :) |
| 06:54.35 | mozrat | Cope, you are in Germany? </obvious question> |
| 06:55.05 | murb | mozrat: the last time i checked Frankfurt am Main was in hessen |
| 06:55.21 | murb | CopeDe: I used to live in Wiesbaden, and still have a flat htere. |
| 06:55.39 | mozrat | murb: I didn't scroll up :-) |
| 06:57.56 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:58.36 | CopeDe | murb: I ate in darmstadt last night, that's kinda near, isn't it? |
| 06:59.41 | mozrat | morsing! |
| 06:59.42 | murb | darmstadt is half way to heidelberg. |
| 06:59.46 | mozrat | CopeDe: you are on hols? |
| 07:01.12 | morsing | mozrat: |
| 07:01.17 | morsing | CopeDe! |
| 07:01.56 | morsing | CopeDe!? |
| 07:01.58 | morsing | CopeDe: How Germany? Why didn't you tell me you were there? |
| 07:02.09 | CopeDe | hehe |
| 07:02.15 | CopeDe | hello morsing |
| 07:02.19 | morsing | 'twg |
| 07:02.27 | morsing | 'tag |
| 07:02.29 | mozrat | CopeDe: ooh, have fun |
| 07:02.35 | morsing | Vie sind die wurst? |
| 07:02.40 | morsing | W? |
| 07:02.50 | morsing | Bye mozrat |
| 07:02.52 | mozrat | morsing: what time are you showing up at the Expo? |
| 07:02.59 | morsing | I'M NOT! |
| 07:03.02 | mozrat | oh :( |
| 07:03.04 | mozrat | Just checking |
| 07:03.08 | morsing | It's pay-day today |
| 07:03.22 | mozrat | Catch you all later, hopefully I can get laptop > bluetooth > mobile working |
| 07:03.37 | mozrat | bye! |
| 07:03.45 | morsing | mozzie! |
| 07:03.53 | CopeDe | the wurst I had for breakfast was ok; but the sempf was average |
| 07:09.38 | trousers | Morning dudes |
| 07:12.53 | morsing | trousers |
| 07:12.54 | morsing | ! |
| 07:14.01 | trousers | morsing! Check it! :P |
| 07:22.15 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 07:22.24 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 07:22.30 | murb | sabinef72: read scroll back, it is all your fault. |
| 07:22.41 | sabinef72 | arg |
| 07:22.51 | sabinef72 | calm down calm down |
| 07:22.58 | trousers | Okay, I'm off to the expo :) |
| 07:23.30 | sabinef72 | murb: why is it my fault ? Germany is lovely |
| 07:23.55 | murb | that franken was sold to bayern. |
| 07:24.21 | sabinef72 | what is franken ? |
| 07:24.37 | sabinef72 | or perhaps who ? |
| 07:24.54 | murb | it is the area i live in . |
| 07:25.38 | sabinef72 | so your town is sold ? how is it possible ? |
| 07:25.48 | morsing | murb bought it |
| 07:26.03 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 07:34.22 | z00dax | yay! I have presidential box tickets for the cricket match today |
| 07:34.50 | z00dax | NZ Vs Pak, being played about 2 miles down the road from my parents place |
| 07:38.01 | sabinef72 | z00dax !!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:38.39 | serris | morning z00dax |
| 07:39.56 | sabinef72 | hi serris : how are you ? |
| 07:40.21 | serris | Hi sabinef72. I'm fine, and yoU? |
| 07:40.25 | sabinef72 | murb: no it's not my faulttttttttt |
| 07:40.29 | sabinef72 | serris: yes I'm ok |
| 07:40.32 | z00dax | sabinef72: serris: |
| 07:41.08 | murb | sabinef72: you are not the mother of napoleon? |
| 07:41.16 | z00dax | sabinef72: come over! its lots and lots of fun |
| 07:41.30 | sabinef72 | z00dax: I really would like to go there one day |
| 07:41.48 | z00dax | i think everyone should come and visit India once! |
| 07:41.48 | serris | I just woke up and damn the house is cold |
| 07:41.57 | z00dax | serris: light a fire |
| 07:41.57 | serris | Makes me not really wanna go out to smoke |
| 07:42.03 | sabinef72 | murb: yes I'm french... but also a bit german and belgium ! So it's not ALL my fault |
| 07:42.08 | z00dax | see, there is a reason to give up smoking |
| 07:42.32 | serris | No, there's a reason to put more clothes on when attempting to go outside to smoke |
| 07:42.33 | z00dax | murb: that would actually be quite a walk! |
| 07:42.45 | murb | sabinef72: belgium doens't exist so you must be lying |
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| 07:43.05 | sabinef72 | murb: how comes ? |
| 07:43.20 | sabinef72 | z00dax: don't forget pictures please ! |
| 07:43.37 | z00dax | sabinef72: i am taking a few :) but no camera and mobile phones on the cricket stadium property! |
| 07:43.38 | sabinef72 | serris: smoke is shit |
| 07:43.46 | sabinef72 | nooooooo |
| 07:43.48 | sabinef72 | why ? |
| 07:43.57 | sabinef72 | I never see cricket in my life ! |
| 07:44.10 | murb | z00dax: unless you pay. |
| 07:44.15 | serris | I thought smoke was something caused by burning things |
| 07:44.17 | serris | =/ |
| 07:46.13 | serris | Ah well, brb smoking |
| 07:46.44 | sabinef72 | nooooooo |
| 07:46.49 | sabinef72 | serris come back |
| 07:46.50 | sabinef72 | don't go |
| 07:49.33 | murb | have they banned people that smoke in france yet? |
| 07:49.52 | merlinn | that will never happen |
| 07:49.56 | sabinef72 | in all public parts (train station....) |
| 07:50.13 | sabinef72 | it's seem in january, some pubs will be without smoke |
| 07:50.16 | merlinn | in france? |
| 07:50.20 | sabinef72 | yes |
| 07:50.21 | merlinn | wtf? |
| 07:50.24 | merlinn | holy shit |
| 07:50.33 | murb | ahah gare le nord without the stink of tobacco and urine! |
| 07:50.34 | sabinef72 | and some restaurant too |
| 07:50.38 | murb | i don't belive it. |
| 07:50.40 | merlinn | that's like banning british people from drinking |
| 07:50.48 | sabinef72 | looooool |
| 07:51.55 | sabinef72 | some pubs and restaurants already do it |
| 07:52.08 | serris | Pubs are going to be banning smoking in the UK |
| 07:52.11 | murb | sabinef72: ban british people? |
| 07:54.58 | murb | sabinef72: didn't? |
| 07:55.43 | serris | I'm planning on going to France sometime. Just over the channel to get some cigarettes. I think they're still cheaper than buying them in the UK |
| 07:55.51 | merlinn | quite a lot |
| 07:56.02 | murb | how much do they cost in france? |
| 07:56.15 | merlinn | for a single box about 3quid |
| 07:56.20 | serris | In Hungary I managed to get 2 cartons of Mayfair and a carton of Benson & Hedges Silver for 34 quid alltogehter |
| 07:56.25 | murb | for 200? |
| 07:56.27 | merlinn | I'd go to somewhere like hungary or so |
| 07:56.40 | merlinn | yeah |
| 07:56.41 | merlinn | there |
| 07:56.43 | murb | i think it is about 20 euro for 200 just over the boarder in .cz |
| 07:56.44 | merlinn | why don't you get a cheap flight |
| 07:56.46 | serris | hehe |
| 07:56.56 | merlinn | it's the same price as getting a sicky cruise |
| 07:57.24 | serris | Cheaper, murb |
| 07:57.31 | serris | Some guy at work used to sell me some |
| 07:57.34 | murb | s/oa/o/ |
| 07:57.43 | serris | He'd sell them to me at about 2.50 quid a 20 deck of Moon Black |
| 07:57.48 | serris | He bought them for about 80p |
| 07:57.52 | serris | Back in .cz |
| 07:58.00 | merlinn | moon black? |
| 07:58.06 | merlinn | I wouldn't buy anything named moon black |
| 07:58.12 | murb | why not? |
| 07:58.15 | serris | They're rubbish |
| 07:58.15 | murb | it is a common brand in .cz |
| 07:58.19 | merlinn | sounds dodge |
| 07:58.22 | serris | We have it in Hungary too |
| 07:58.26 | sabinef72 | serris: tell me when you will be there |
| 07:58.26 | serris | But it's not very good |
| 07:58.28 | serris | Rather cheap though |
| 07:58.28 | murb | many people here smoke them. |
| 07:58.38 | sabinef72 | murb: don't you like France ? |
| 07:58.41 | serris | Will do : ) |
| 07:58.46 | merlinn | are they sugar cured or dry cured? |
| 07:58.55 | serris | My mate is half french so I'm dragging him along, but at the moment don't really have enough money to go |
| 07:59.01 | merlinn | I find it really difficult to smoke non english cigarettes |
| 07:59.09 | murb | sabinef72: i just don't like the french xenophobia. |
| 07:59.10 | sabinef72 | serris: you should go in Spain, there are cheaper than in France |
| 07:59.11 | merlinn | because english cigs are so unhealthily prepared |
| 07:59.17 | merlinn | they taste better |
| 07:59.26 | sabinef72 | murb: xenophobia ?????,, |
| 07:59.28 | merlinn | or I'm more accustomed to them |
| 07:59.28 | serris | It'd be faster to get to Hungary and I'm pretty sure they're cheaper there |
| 07:59.47 | serris | I ended up getting used to Mayfair |
| 08:00.12 | merlinn | they're a lot cheaper there than france |
| 08:00.12 | serris | The Marlboro Reds only cost about 15 quid a carton back in Hungary |
| 08:00.29 | serris | While Mayfair was a tenner a carton |
| 08:00.35 | sabinef72 | merlinn: I agree |
| 08:00.43 | serris | Here I think Sainsbury's are still one of the cheapest place to get them at |
| 08:00.46 | murb | serris: how much vat do you pay in .hu? |
| 08:00.55 | serris | Good question |
| 08:01.06 | murb | i know .cz is now 19% |
| 08:01.28 | serris | It went up a little since we joined the EU |
| 08:02.01 | serris | I remember most cigarettes used to be around 390HUF a few years ago. That's about 1 quid. Now the cheapest are around 460HUF |
| 08:02.44 | merlinn | are there any places to ski in hungary? |
| 08:02.50 | serris | how do you "accidentally" go to Hungary? |
| 08:02.55 | serris | A few |
| 08:03.04 | serris | but it's better to just cross over to Slovakia |
| 08:03.17 | serris | My cousin goes to France to ski |
| 08:03.34 | murb | (it was the quickest route from wien -> Banksa Bystrica |
| 08:03.35 | murb | ) |
| 08:05.38 | merlinn | I want to buy a place near a ski slope |
| 08:06.30 | murb | merlinn: http://lbw.penguinpeople.org/2003/murble/tn/img_3341.jpg.html # for all your high tatra ski wishes |
| 08:09.09 | murb | Stary Smokovec didn't seem like a bad resort. |
| 08:09.14 | murb | although i was only there in the summer. |
| 08:15.42 | morsing | CopeDe? |
| 08:15.45 | morsing | ping CopeDe |
| 08:28.03 | CopeDe | yay |
| 08:29.38 | morsing | CopeDe: What's with the password resets? |
| 08:35.07 | CopeDe | i need my password to be reset |
| 08:37.25 | morsing | All the time? |
| 08:37.36 | morsing | Does anyone have a tent I can borrow? |
| 08:38.26 | CopeDe | yes, but i don't live near you |
| 08:38.50 | morsing | CopeDe: Are you going to change the passwd again? |
| 08:39.08 | morsing | It will ask yu when you log in. I've reset it |
| 08:48.36 | morsing | Cope? |
| 08:49.02 | CopeDe | yep |
| 08:49.03 | CopeDe | absolutely |
| 08:49.45 | CopeDe | morsing: what did you set it to? |
| 08:51.39 | morsing | What you asked for |
| 08:51.54 | Leeds | morsing: what did he ask for? |
| 08:52.10 | morsing | Leeds: Money |
| 08:52.58 | Leeds | funny |
| 08:57.11 | *** join/#gllug goibhniu (n=cillian@194.193.78.2) |
| 08:58.40 | CopeDe | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 08:58.53 | CopeDe | morsing: what does lsuser say of nelsonst? |
| 08:59.46 | morsing | Hang-on, I might have copied a whitespace from your mail |
| 09:00.07 | morsing | Try again |
| 09:04.17 | CopeDe | morsing: very strange |
| 09:04.35 | CopeDe | whatever i offer as a new password, it thinks it is recent and thus not valid |
| 09:05.12 | CopeDe | eg I suggested C0ckSh@ft |
| 09:05.21 | CopeDe | which I have definitely not used before |
| 09:05.32 | CopeDe | and it says it isn't valid |
| 09:05.43 | CopeDe | Tw4tFl4p$ |
| 09:05.45 | CopeDe | :) |
| 09:05.47 | CopeDe | likewise |
| 09:07.32 | CopeDe | Sl1pp3ryT!t$ |
| 09:07.44 | CopeDe | all have apparently been used before... |
| 09:07.45 | CopeDe | You broke it! |
| 09:09.12 | morsing | That's definate;y not what you emailed us.. |
| 09:09.36 | morsing | Sorry, I'm confused |
| 09:10.19 | morsing | CopeDe: You can login and change it to whatever now |
| 09:16.23 | CopeDe | ok... back up |
| 09:16.39 | CopeDe | 1) I emailed you asking you to change password |
| 09:16.41 | CopeDe | 2) You did |
| 09:16.51 | CopeDe | 3) I logged on with this password |
| 09:17.01 | CopeDe | 4) It asks for a new password (as expected) |
| 09:17.18 | CopeDe | 5) I enter any number of random, never-been-used-before passwords |
| 09:17.31 | CopeDe | 6) It says it has been recently used, and tells me it is invalid. |
| 09:17.35 | cpufreak | don't base your passwords on words then |
| 09:18.02 | *** join/#gllug huw-l (n=scmhl2@ygridll.cs.cf.ac.uk) |
| 09:18.53 | CopeDe | that has nothing to do with it; it gave the same message with completely random passwords |
| 09:19.08 | CopeDe | eg sgj%y$_a |
| 09:19.25 | murb | CopeDe: maybe it is broken? |
| 09:19.48 | CopeDe | murb: i believe so, as suggested by the statement: <CopeDe> You broke it! |
| 09:19.50 | CopeDe | :) |
| 09:20.56 | morsing | CopeDe: Wait a sec |
| 09:21.13 | morsing | Sorry, we're quite busy this week |
| 09:21.18 | CopeDe | hehe |
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| 09:37.27 | eeyore | fedora 6 install 90% complete |
| 09:37.28 | morsing | eeyore! |
| 09:37.28 | eeyore | yay |
| 09:37.42 | eeyore | soon i can find out how many things it breaks :) |
| 09:37.54 | eeyore | i really hope not my database, but it's all part of the excitement |
| 09:38.33 | CopeDe | ooh exciting |
| 09:38.38 | eeyore | you borrow money then you pay back capiche? |
| 09:38.38 | sabinef72 | hùù |
| 09:38.46 | morsing | Uhmm... |
| 09:38.49 | morsing | The thing is |
| 09:38.59 | sabinef72 | hjjjjjkl |
| 09:39.02 | morsing | Ever since taking out a second loan in March |
| 09:39.06 | sabinef72 | oops |
| 09:39.13 | sabinef72 | sorry I'm washing my keyboard |
| 09:39.14 | morsing | the payments on the first loan has stopped... |
| 09:39.21 | morsing | Why? |
| 09:39.26 | morsing | Free money? |
| 09:42.46 | morsing | eeyore? |
| 09:43.51 | Leeds | no such thing as free money |
| 09:44.04 | morsing | Leeds: So they just forgot about my loan? |
| 09:44.11 | morsing | Should I tell them? |
| 09:44.28 | Leeds | no... sooner or later - probably later - they will notice and charge you huge penalties for missing payments |
| 09:44.32 | sabinef72 | Leeds !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:44.40 | sabinef72 | Leeds: did you think at me ? |
| 09:44.48 | morsing | sabinef72: I did |
| 09:44.53 | sabinef72 | I don't know why I'm afraid he will answer no |
| 09:44.55 | Leeds | sabinef72: constantly! |
| 09:45.00 | sabinef72 | loooooool |
| 09:45.27 | Leeds | seriously... it's always at the top of my mental to-do list... just, haven't got around to it |
| 09:46.13 | morsing | Leeds: What about me? |
| 09:46.26 | sabinef72 | morsing: I'm still waiting your one |
| 09:47.07 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:47.15 | sabinef72 | yes it's me ! |
| 09:47.24 | sabinef72 | don't you have postcard in England ? |
| 09:47.30 | CopeDe | heh |
| 09:47.33 | morsing | No |
| 09:48.15 | Leeds | morsing: no, I never think of you |
| 09:48.43 | eeyore | burstnet slogan: how much packet loss do you want today? |
| 09:49.56 | eeyore | make: warning: clock skew detected: your build may not be complete |
| 09:50.02 | eeyore | Failed to start Xserver |
| 09:50.07 | eeyore | and so it BEGINS! |
| 09:51.07 | CopeDe | what are you trying to build? |
| 09:51.26 | Leeds | the hard drive appears to be failing to spin up |
| 09:51.39 | eeyore | not trying to build anything, just install fedora 6 |
| 09:58.06 | CopeDe | make: warning: clock skew detected: your build may not be complete |
| 09:58.25 | CopeDe | sounds rather like you typed "make", as if you were building something. |
| 09:59.23 | eeyore | is anyone else running fc6 here? |
| 10:09.09 | antiphase | pmsl |
| 10:09.27 | antiphase | They'll probably be laying into their machine with a boot, rather than chatting idly on IRC |
| 10:14.05 | eeyore | well i have a spare windows machine :) |
| 10:22.41 | wethrin | bibble |
| 10:22.42 | antiphase | I though ATI and support were mutually exclusive concepts |
| 10:23.03 | eeyore | like all graphics cards that aren't from the 80's |
| 10:23.21 | antiphase | I suppose they do VESA modes OK |
| 10:23.33 | eeyore | yah lol |
| 10:23.42 | eeyore | want to try the composite thing |
| 10:24.30 | CopeDe | ooh hello keithlard |
| 10:24.55 | serris | I'm off to the Linux expo. Talk to you all later : ) |
| 10:25.01 | serris | cya wethrin |
| 10:25.17 | wethrin | enjoy! |
| 10:25.26 | serris | Will do : ) |
| 10:25.37 | wethrin | Don't forget to get freebies! |
| 10:30.20 | CopeDe | that'll fix it |
| 10:30.21 | CopeDe | if in doubt - reboot; |
| 10:30.39 | eeyore | i feel lucky this time |
| 10:30.39 | CopeDe | because running up and down init scripts always fixes things |
| 10:30.49 | wethrin | CopeDe: Sadly that often works, even when it shouldn't |
| 10:31.18 | CopeDe | heh, I'm not knocking it; I am much in favour of sanity reboots |
| 10:34.02 | eeyore | i just can't remember how to correctly restart X/gnome |
| 10:34.30 | eeyore | this time gadget, this time |
| 10:34.44 | eeyore | got excited for a second |
| 10:34.48 | eeyore | but that was teh grub screen |
| 10:37.11 | eeyore | this time it will *really* work |
| 10:37.23 | Leeds | yeah, right |
| 10:37.44 | eeyore | i think it's good to have to spend a day messing with the xorg.conf every upgrade |
| 10:37.51 | eeyore | it's all about getting back to basics |
| 10:37.53 | eeyore | woot! |
| 10:38.17 | eeyore | boot successfull with ATI driver |
| 10:38.25 | eeyore | now i try to switch on the wizzy bits |
| 10:38.32 | Leeds | fglx? |
| 10:38.35 | eeyore | yes |
| 10:38.42 | eeyore | and ailx or whatever it is |
| 10:39.25 | eeyore | definately have 3d support just tryied glxgears |
| 10:39.55 | Leeds | don't like binary drivers |
| 10:41.12 | eeyore | me neither, but there are no open source ones |
| 10:41.47 | eeyore | if the drivers were open source this would have "just worked" |
| 10:42.20 | Leeds | I've got working - if slow - free 3d |
| 10:42.47 | eeyore | it just told me it couldn't be enabled |
| 10:43.10 | Leeds | what card do you have? |
| 10:43.19 | eeyore | radeon |
| 10:43.23 | eeyore | 200express |
| 10:44.11 | Leeds | no idea what that is underneath... r100 and r200 work well, and r300 works somewhat |
| 10:46.29 | eeyore | bugger the proprietary drivers don't support it |
| 10:46.31 | eeyore | at all |
| 10:46.46 | eeyore | mind you i just rebooted with the radeon driver and that didn't work either |
| 10:48.17 | Leeds | shower time! |
| 10:53.09 | cpufreak | just run Vista |
| 10:54.36 | eeyore | i have osX at home, i'm that desperate. |
| 10:54.48 | eeyore | i mean *not* that derperate.heh |
| 11:00.08 | eeyore | yeah i can't get the open source drivers working with it either |
| 11:03.46 | CopeDe | buy supported hardware, then. |
| 11:03.47 | CopeDe | hth, hand |
| 11:06.18 | eeyore | this is suppose to be supported |
| 11:07.01 | eeyore | also i know full well that it's near impossible under xorg to disable the onboard, i tried already |
| 11:07.48 | antiphase | Surely you can do it in the BIOS though |
| 11:08.24 | eeyore | yes, it's just that linux seems to ignore it |
| 11:11.28 | eeyore | oh thats nice it nuked my java install too |
| 11:31.39 | Leeds | there's whiskey in the giro! |
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| 11:41.54 | morsing | phearless! |
| 11:42.01 | morsing | Ok, phoned my bank... |
| 11:42.06 | phearless | hi :) |
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| 12:47.43 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 12:49.30 | morsing | :( |
| 12:55.13 | CopeDe | nearly time to go back to England |
| 12:57.55 | CopeDe | bye1 |
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| 13:07.58 | rhowe | Leeds: Did you see the Lik Sang announcement? |
| 13:10.14 | eeyore | i seem to remember there is some way to show the html source of the finished DOM in firefox |
| 13:10.21 | eeyore | but i can't remember how |
| 13:15.11 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:25.01 | goibhniu | phear tubes! |
| 13:50.12 | phearless | phear less ! |
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| 13:54.51 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 13:54.54 | wethrin | foo! |
| 13:55.05 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 13:55.10 | wethrin | Hey |
| 13:55.18 | morsing | wethrin: Where are you over X-mas/New year? |
| 13:55.50 | wethrin | morsing: Beaconsfield, mostly |
| 13:56.23 | murb | wethrin: you should be in upper frankonia |
| 13:56.29 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:56.43 | wethrin | murb: I'm most likely going to be in Oxford over New Year |
| 13:57.43 | wethrin | Grrr. The pricing of silicon wafers from Siltronix appears to be quite random |
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| 13:58.04 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
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| 14:03.17 | cbz | yuh |
| 14:03.19 | morsing | cbz! |
| 14:03.58 | cbz | hello morsing |
| 14:39.37 | morsing | How does on-line check-in work? |
| 14:40.18 | antiphase | You check in, on-line |
| 14:50.48 | morsing | And then what? |
| 14:51.50 | morsing | antiphase? |
| 14:53.13 | antiphase | I've no idea, I've enever done it. I was merely being facetious |
| 14:58.25 | phearless | anybody know where i can buy Rubber Screws for a CPU fan ? |
| 14:59.32 | antiphase | I've never seen a rubber screw |
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| 15:00.07 | cbz | phearless: dorothy bradbury |
| 15:00.17 | boudiccas | If i have this as a bash script ... #!/bin/bash |
| 15:00.18 | boudiccas | ./FAH502-Linux.exe -forceasm >>folding.log 2>&1 & .... how can i write a bash script to kill it please? |
| 15:00.28 | cbz | http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/ |
| 15:00.34 | phearless | thks |
| 15:00.38 | phearless | ! |
| 15:05.12 | murb | boudiccas: pkill -9 FAH502-Linux.exe |
| 15:05.14 | phearless | http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/ sell only fans, not rubber screws :( |
| 15:05.28 | murb | or you could just save the pid and kill that. |
| 15:05.30 | phearless | Linux.exe ?! o_O |
| 15:09.14 | phearless | which google keywords should I se to look for rubber screws for a CPU fan ? |
| 15:09.27 | phearless | ;-) |
| 15:12.11 | boudiccas | murb; the finished script turns out to be ... #!/bin/bash |
| 15:12.11 | boudiccas | kill -9 `ps afx | grep FAH502-Linux.exe | grep -v [g]rep | awk '{print $1 }'` ... which works very well |
| 15:12.57 | murb | boudiccas: why not just use pkill ? |
| 15:13.22 | murb | and why -9? |
| 15:13.33 | boudiccas | because its got to run as a script which doesn't know the random pids |
| 15:13.36 | murb | wouldn't it be kinder to send a more gental signal at first. |
| 15:13.45 | murb | but you really don't need to use grep and awk |
| 15:14.06 | boudiccas | maybe not, but this one works and cuts the mustard very well |
| 15:14.18 | murb | kill `ps afx | awk '/FAH502-Linux.ex[e]/ {print $1 }'` |
| 15:15.29 | murb | i'm sure there are laws against it. |
| 15:15.36 | morsing | Check it! |
| 15:15.41 | murb | and if not htere should be. |
| 15:15.45 | boudiccas | murb; yes, yours works just as well :) |
| 15:15.50 | morsing | Anyone up for a curry and a pint after work? |
| 15:17.09 | boudiccas | mmmm,beer curry! luverly jubbly! |
| 15:17.16 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:17.31 | boudiccas | with a nice of 19 too |
| 15:18.00 | morsing | nice 22 boudiccas |
| 15:18.06 | morsing | nice -3 ibot |
| 15:18.39 | boudiccas | lol |
| 15:19.33 | boudiccas | my mother told me last week that i was fat! i told her that I was in shape, and round is a shape! |
| 15:19.52 | morsing | boudiccas: You *are* fat! |
| 15:20.02 | morsing | :) |
| 15:20.12 | boudiccas | morsing; how do you know, you've never met me! :) |
| 15:21.06 | boudiccas | whats the Hewlett Packrd phone that runs some version of windows on it? |
| 15:21.35 | boudiccas | s/Packrd/Packard/ |
| 15:21.55 | morsing | ibot boudiccas |
| 15:22.14 | boudiccas | silence is golden :) |
| 15:22.50 | boudiccas | so secretive that not even ibot knows anyhting about me :) |
| 15:23.12 | boudiccas | s/anyhting/anything/ |
| 15:23.23 | morsing | ibot knows everything! |
| 15:23.25 | ibot | Yes, I do, morsing. |
| 15:23.29 | morsing | :) |
| 15:23.56 | boudiccas | but ibot doesn't know any information/gossip about boudiccas :) |
| 15:24.16 | boudiccas | ergo, ibot doesn't know everything |
| 15:30.52 | morsing | rhowe! Dinner at your place tonight? |
| 15:34.03 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
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| 15:38.44 | phearless | can I change just the fan of a Radeon 9700 Pro ? |
| 15:39.24 | morsing | Yes |
| 15:39.51 | phearless | can I buy one ? |
| 15:39.55 | morsing | No |
| 15:39.58 | phearless | i do not find anything on the web |
| 15:40.07 | phearless | ok so I buy a new graphic card |
| 15:40.27 | phearless | and I replace the old fan on the old card by the new fan of the new card |
| 15:40.35 | phearless | mmm... |
| 15:40.40 | phearless | does not make sense |
| 15:48.10 | rhowe | morsing: Dinner at my place? |
| 15:48.15 | rhowe | morsing: I haven't got any food :P |
| 15:48.27 | morsing | rhowe: I'll bring beer |
| 15:48.33 | rhowe | morsing: Jia won't be impressed |
| 15:48.43 | morsing | I'll impress her |
| 15:48.50 | morsing | Are you two still married? |
| 15:48.51 | morsing | ?! |
| 15:49.10 | rhowe | morsing: heh, sure am |
| 16:06.08 | cbz | phearless: see fan mounts |
| 16:11.02 | phearless | ok |
| 16:13.24 | Kitty | is anyone here on the 28 bus? |
| 16:14.37 | phearless | you are IRCing from the bus 28 and you look for a friend ? |
| 16:14.40 | morsing | No - I'm at work |
| 16:16.35 | boudiccas | indigent ... a goodly word |
| 16:16.54 | Kitty | no i am on the 27 |
| 16:17.00 | Kitty | we was at the expo |
| 16:17.12 | boudiccas | was it good |
| 16:17.13 | Kitty | and are on our way to the lonix bash |
| 16:17.30 | Kitty | we ddos'd the 28, so fail overed to the 27 |
| 16:18.51 | Kitty | oh yay, a drunk |
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| 17:03.08 | Leeds | rhowe: of course :-( |
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| 17:14.35 | secretlondon | evenin' |
| 17:16.15 | serris | hi all |
| 17:20.26 | serris | how's it going secretlondon? |
| 17:20.30 | serris | Did you go to the expo? |
| 17:20.42 | secretlondon | serris: I didn't make it - must go tomorrow |
| 17:20.48 | serris | heh |
| 17:20.50 | secretlondon | serris: did you go? |
| 17:20.54 | serris | Did you go last year? |
| 17:20.57 | Leeds | with a mixture of people I know a bit, and people I've never met |
| 17:21.04 | secretlondon | no - I don't think I've actually been since 2001 |
| 17:21.24 | serris | Yep. Saw trousers & mozrat |
| 17:21.43 | secretlondon | how was it? |
| 17:21.52 | serris | Not as good as before |
| 17:22.05 | serris | The only good bit was talking to mozrat |
| 17:22.06 | serris | lol |
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| 17:22.54 | serris | He gave me a free Lonix pen since I complained this is my first expo I did not get a free pen at |
| 17:22.54 | serris | Me mate got a tshirt but not a pen |
| 17:23.24 | secretlondon | the last one I went to had vodka flowing down a giant ice tux |
| 17:23.37 | secretlondon | i think i'll settle for a tshirt |
| 17:23.39 | wethrin | boo! |
| 17:23.47 | serris | I mean the 1st linunx expo we went to we got about 20 pens each |
| 17:23.49 | wethrin | That was when SGI still had some money |
| 17:24.06 | wethrin | I got 9 t-shirts, and a cap from one of the Linux Expos. I think it was the second one |
| 17:24.10 | serris | yeah |
| 17:24.25 | secretlondon | clothes and pens always come in useful |
| 17:24.30 | serris | Yep |
| 17:25.27 | serris | But we did get some Novell Suse Enterprise 10 Eval CDs |
| 17:25.30 | serris | and Desktop ones too |
| 17:25.42 | serris | some Novell clip kind of things |
| 17:25.49 | serris | and a bunch of flyers |
| 17:26.02 | secretlondon | oh cds are good |
| 17:26.06 | serris | I do have a GLLUG flyer too |
| 17:26.23 | serris | Yeah and mozrat also gave me a Ubuntu 6.06 CD |
| 17:26.38 | serris | I was about to head over to the Ubuntu stand to nab one but didn't make it as mozrat handed me one |
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| 17:26.51 | sabinette | arg |
| 17:27.14 | secretlondon | we have lots of free cds |
| 17:27.35 | secretlondon | we should have kubuntu and edubuntu too i think |
| 17:27.46 | serris | I did get a nifty subscription (trial) to Linux Magazine |
| 17:28.17 | serris | 3 issues + a free mag for 6 quid |
| 17:29.16 | secretlondon | ok |
| 17:29.50 | serris | I must say I like the GLLUG flyers |
| 17:30.36 | secretlondon | wethrin: I have had about 80 emails from freecycle - none of which were suns |
| 17:30.41 | serris | Oh do you like weird tribal looking New Zealand guys dancing around in hoola looking skirts screaming weird stuff to attract you to new linux hosting? |
| 17:30.48 | wethrin | secretlondon: Keep waiting around |
| 17:30.49 | serris | They even had a guitar |
| 17:30.52 | wethrin | w00t |
| 17:31.05 | secretlondon | wethrin: I know |
| 17:31.09 | serris | I think that was one of the more exciting features |
| 17:31.13 | wethrin | I have the interweb via OpenBSD! |
| 17:31.29 | secretlondon | ooh |
| 17:31.35 | secretlondon | .me has never played with open bsd |
| 17:31.42 | murb | i have openbsd urnning on xen so nah |
| 17:31.44 | wethrin | It rocks rather muchly. Specially for firewalls |
| 17:31.51 | murb | nah the firewall foo sucks |
| 17:31.54 | wethrin | And I might still try it over the weekend |
| 17:31.56 | wethrin | Rubbish :-P |
| 17:32.02 | murb | atleast compared to netfilter |
| 17:32.09 | murb | of ipfilter |
| 17:32.11 | wethrin | Ewww |
| 17:32.12 | murb | s/of/or/ |
| 17:32.17 | secretlondon | it is supposed to be the security bsd isn't it |
| 17:32.22 | murb | it is just a poor reimplentation and modification of ipfilter |
| 17:32.29 | secretlondon | although I'm a bit scared about the songs I read about on wikipedia |
| 17:33.29 | wethrin | secretlondon: Yeah |
| 17:33.34 | wethrin | murb: Bah :-P |
| 17:33.45 | serris | The songs were on sale at the OpenBSD stand |
| 17:33.48 | secretlondon | hell |
| 17:33.52 | wethrin | cool |
| 17:34.15 | secretlondon | oh god that needs a photo taking tomorrow for wikipedia ;) |
| 17:34.30 | serris | I think it was either 6 quid or a tenner? |
| 17:34.34 | serris | I know their DVD was 30 quid |
| 17:34.48 | serris | the fluffy fish that their mascot is was 25 quid |
| 17:34.59 | serris | Tshirts were I think a tenner and 6 quid for the Audio CD |
| 17:42.55 | secretlondon | me on LJ: That's not free software! person: yeah but it's pretty cheap tho |
| 17:48.20 | wethrin | heh |
| 17:49.50 | wethrin | what sw? |
| 17:54.01 | secretlondon | it was on ubuntu-users and someone asked about linux software to put together student newspapers. everyone said scribus, but someone said that as well you'll need something that does cmyk. he suggested pixel (non free), I said krita does cmyk too |
| 17:54.13 | secretlondon | the gimp doesn't of course |
| 17:54.33 | wethrin | No, most things don't |
| 17:54.39 | wethrin | Quark XPress! |
| 17:54.46 | wethrin | Or whatever the Adobe rival is called |
| 17:54.49 | wethrin | krita? |
| 17:54.58 | secretlondon | krita - kde art app |
| 17:55.13 | wethrin | Ah |
| 17:55.24 | secretlondon | it's looking rather nice, a lot of the kde ones are - i prefer the feel of gnome but kde have some nice software |
| 17:55.44 | wethrin | Why doesn't gimp do it? That seems to be the major thing holding back its adoption in the more professional image wranglers |
| 17:55.56 | secretlondon | the gimp is also the world's ugliest art app |
| 17:56.01 | wethrin | That's true |
| 17:56.10 | wethrin | I tend to use Photoshop proper, if needed |
| 17:56.31 | secretlondon | i'm trying to sue krita and show foto - don't like the gimp |
| 17:56.43 | secretlondon | i feel weak when i boot in my windows partition ;) |
| 17:56.54 | wethrin | Photoshop on Mac++ |
| 17:57.03 | murb | have you seen the gimp shell that makes it look like photoshop? |
| 17:57.08 | secretlondon | gimpshop? |
| 17:57.13 | wethrin | I might start taking my camera pictures in RAW mode, and doing some twiddles in Photosho |
| 17:57.13 | murb | photoshop on the mac is also bloody expensive. |
| 17:57.16 | wethrin | +p |
| 17:57.18 | wethrin | yes, well |
| 17:57.29 | murb | i think my sister got it for free though. |
| 17:57.35 | wethrin | aye |
| 17:57.38 | murb | bucks lea were obviously feeling rich |
| 17:58.06 | wethrin | Time to go! |
| 18:02.56 | secretlondon | murb : if they licensed it ;) |
| 18:03.10 | murb | secretlondon: of course they did |
| 18:03.25 | murb | but it was also a student version so maybe a little be cheaper than normal. |
| 18:03.42 | secretlondon | murb: fair enough, many places i've worked have a cavalier attitude to software licensing |
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| 18:04.37 | murb | secretlondon: this was part of some kind of going to university grant thing, i know th emoney was paid because we had to send them the invoices. |
| 18:04.51 | secretlondon | murb: ok cool. |
| 18:06.27 | Leeds | hmm... this xchat is meant to have sepllchecking built-in |
| 18:06.39 | secretlondon | mine does, it underlines borked words |
| 18:07.01 | Leeds | well it didn't seem to have any problem with sepllchecking :-| |
| 18:07.38 | secretlondon | mine underlined borked |
| 18:08.18 | secretlondon | it underlines as you type |
| 18:09.00 | Leeds | it should be truned on in the settings, but I don't see any underlinding... |
| 18:09.06 | Leeds | one mo |
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| 18:09.51 | Leeds | so, are we sepllchecking now then? |
| 18:09.53 | Leeds | no, apparently not |
| 18:10.56 | secretlondon | i'm on chat 2.6.6 running on ubuntu dapper |
| 18:12.02 | Leeds | 2.6.8, just now built and installed from source |
| 18:12.11 | secretlondon | do you have spelling dictionaries installed? I've no idea how it finds them |
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| 18:12.45 | secretlondon | ooh mine is eng gb too - it likes centre but not center |
| 18:13.32 | Leeds | possibly not |
| 18:18.17 | Leeds | okay, dicts installed... I'll be back |
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| 18:18.48 | secretlondon | I can't see anything at first glance that tells me which dicts it uses |
| 18:19.26 | serris | Anyone have any experience with CentOS? |
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| 18:20.51 | stephen | serris: z.00dax is the CentOS man around these parts |
| 18:22.16 | serris | Hmm.. |
| 18:22.33 | serris | Me mate bought some CentOS disks at the expo |
| 18:22.41 | murb | from lance? |
| 18:23.05 | serris | I think so |
| 18:23.31 | serris | Well to his recomendation, I'm going to run it on one of my rigs as an Apache MySQL and PHP server |
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| 18:46.08 | gw280 | trousers: you weirdo |
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| 18:58.25 | boudiccas | serris; i run centos on this desktop |
| 18:58.57 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 18:59.07 | boudiccas | yes, tis I! |
| 19:23.11 | Gunde | oooh, heating magically came on just now! |
| 19:23.43 | secretlondon | nice |
| 19:24.39 | Gunde | indeed, means I might not have to spend all evening with two jumpers and wrapped into a down duvet. |
| 19:25.17 | secretlondon | mine is still borked |
| 19:25.56 | secretlondon | i haven't chased all summer as it was the summer.. |
| 19:26.19 | Gunde | And I did chase them, without effect though. |
| 19:26.52 | Gunde | I read today it is not legal here to shorten your rent if that happens, what a pity. |
| 19:27.29 | secretlondon | i've got an assured tenency (housing association) so I need to sort them out rather than move |
| 19:28.24 | Gunde | Same here, but my half assured year is over. Nevertheless, I like the house and my housemates, so I'd rather not move out. |
| 19:28.49 | secretlondon | gunde: I'm not sure what you've got - assured shorthold? |
| 19:29.14 | secretlondon | Mine is permanent tenency as long as pay the rent and don't be a nazi (there are a few other conditions but that's what it amounts to) |
| 19:29.26 | Gunde | yes, fixed for half a year, afterwards both side can cancel the contract with one months notice. |
| 19:30.00 | secretlondon | ah that's different. assured tenancies are special housing association ones, a bit like the secure tenancies that council tenants get |
| 19:30.37 | Gunde | I am not familiar with the different kind of contracts in Britain, but I can guess from the context. |
| 19:32.02 | secretlondon | ok |
| 19:40.31 | serris | hmm... |
| 19:40.36 | serris | ok I'm banned from cooking |
| 19:40.49 | serris | I just set fire to the pan |
| 19:49.20 | boudiccas | woot! |
| 19:51.56 | morsing | Moo |
| 19:52.23 | morsing | boudiccas: Can I go to bed now? |
| 19:52.54 | boudiccas | morsing; i've no idea, have you been a good boy? |
| 19:54.17 | morsing | Yes |
| 19:54.41 | boudiccas | then you can stay up later then, but only because its half-term atm |
| 19:55.05 | secretlondon | half term in lewisham too |
| 19:55.25 | serris | That was fun |
| 19:55.38 | serris | I think the house is still covered in thick smoke |
| 19:55.44 | serris | I wonder where I put my gas mask |
| 19:55.45 | boudiccas | serris; playing fireman again? :) |
| 19:55.54 | serris | No, playing chef |
| 19:56.10 | Gunde | *moan* Heating is off again. |
| 19:56.32 | serris | I put some paper towels for my wife's grilled cheese too close to the fire so that caught fire, I frew it on the sandwich which caught fire too |
| 19:56.35 | serris | it was fun |
| 19:56.43 | boudiccas | lol |
| 19:56.49 | serris | My wife is like "What the hell are you doing? There shouldn't be flames coming out of the kitchen..." |
| 19:56.59 | Gunde | serris: admit it, you did that on purpose to get expelled from the kitchen... |
| 19:57.04 | serris | I reasurred her everything was cool and under control while I was slapping the fire with a spatula |
| 19:57.51 | serris | that didn't work. So I ate that grilled cheese but she didn't really trust me to make another one |
| 19:57.52 | boudiccas | better to cover it with a wet tea towel and turn off the heat source |
| 19:57.59 | serris | Ah that'd be lame |
| 19:58.09 | serris | I left the flame on and just kept smacking it |
| 19:58.10 | boudiccas | maybe, but safer |
| 19:58.42 | boudiccas | flambe cheese sandwich! :)))))))))) |
| 19:59.13 | serris | yeah I threw half of it away |
| 19:59.18 | serris | the paper burnt / melted onto it |
| 19:59.28 | serris | it tasted like ash |
| 19:59.50 | boudiccas | paper doesn't melt, normally :) |
| 20:00.10 | boudiccas | so, what does ash taste of? |
| 20:01.38 | secretlondon | cigarettes? |
| 20:04.24 | serris | Nah |
| 20:04.30 | serris | Tastes like a bbq |
| 20:04.40 | serris | when you drop your chicken or something in |
| 20:04.44 | serris | get it out and wipe it off |
| 20:04.51 | serris | And it has that weird ash tasting thing |
| 20:05.52 | mozrat | Advice please!! |
| 20:06.03 | serris | hey mozrat |
| 20:06.13 | mozrat | hey! |
| 20:06.24 | secretlondon | ello |
| 20:06.40 | serris | Thanks for that pen |
| 20:06.42 | mozrat | The pub we are looking to take MadDog too on Friday night is supposed to be very busy that night |
| 20:06.48 | mozrat | yeah... you're welcome! |
| 20:06.51 | serris | :D |
| 20:08.05 | serris | I didn't think the Linux expo was as good this year |
| 20:08.50 | mozrat | No, it probably wasn't but this was the first year I've manned a stand |
| 20:08.52 | mozrat | so, I had fun |
| 20:09.04 | serris | yeah |
| 20:09.22 | serris | I just set fire to my kitchen :D |
| 20:09.28 | mozrat | nice one! |
| 20:09.31 | serris | I know |
| 20:12.11 | mozrat | Well - if the pub is busy.... we'll have to take him elsewhere! |
| 20:12.33 | secretlondon | i missed today but am doing tomorrow |
| 20:12.35 | serris | heh |
| 20:12.58 | mozrat | secretlondon: make sure you say "hello" to me |
| 20:13.18 | mozrat | http://gllug.org.uk//uploads/Meetings/25thOct06/mad-dog-beer.jpeg |
| 20:13.21 | secretlondon | mozrat: i will. I'll be the female on the ubuntu community stall |
| 20:13.46 | serris | That stool had a lot of people at it today |
| 20:13.54 | serris | mozrat: I liked the GLLUG flyer btw |
| 20:14.00 | mozrat | secretlondon: cool! |
| 20:14.07 | mozrat | that stall was stacked all day today |
| 20:14.12 | mozrat | serris: cool thanks :-) |
| 20:14.21 | secretlondon | really. i guess we have too many volunteers? |
| 20:14.32 | mozrat | secretlondon: no, lots of visitors |
| 20:14.45 | secretlondon | oh ok- theres a canonical stall too at the expo |
| 20:14.54 | morsing | G'night all! |
| 20:14.59 | mozrat | yep |
| 20:14.59 | secretlondon | night morsing |
| 20:15.04 | mozrat | morsing: are you coming tomorrow? |
| 20:15.06 | serris | g'night morsing |
| 20:15.09 | morsing | mozrat: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 20:15.13 | mozrat | :(( |
| 20:15.41 | mozrat | morsing: I saw George today |
| 20:21.04 | secretlondon | mozrat: there was a uk ubuntu community meet from 2->4, that could have been it |
| 20:22.05 | mozrat | secretlondon: that was double packed.. the stall was popular all day |
| 20:22.25 | secretlondon | thanks |
| 20:23.44 | serris | s |
| 20:26.56 | mozrat | oops, that image for Fridays beer meeting is wrong. |
| 20:27.09 | secretlondon | i'm amused by the names some of our users give to their computers - we have a large number of "bigboy"s and "monster"s appearing in bug reports.. |
| 20:31.42 | serris | Hmm... interesting |
| 20:32.02 | serris | My laptop is called Whatever, my webserver is called Clit and my file server is Arkham |
| 20:32.04 | serris | =/ |
| 20:34.06 | secretlondon | i think we have young gadget mad boys as a target group. the next release is really targeting bling and gadgetry |
| 20:34.29 | secretlondon | of course we are disappointed they choose to install non free graphics drivers |
| 20:35.26 | secretlondon | ubuntu has a cool factor i reckon |
| 20:36.14 | serris | I use Fluxbuntu. I don't really like Gnome and the bloat wiht it |
| 20:36.16 | serris | with* |
| 20:36.47 | secretlondon | i have 2 of my 3 with xubuntu on, not looked at the flux packages |
| 20:37.56 | serris | Well Well my favourite Window Manager is Fluxbox |
| 20:38.14 | serris | And I like the hardware support of Ubuntu |
| 20:38.20 | serris | So it seemed like a good idea to get involved with that project |
| 20:38.50 | secretlondon | i've never played with. I like kde apps better than gnome apps but find kde ugly. i run gnome with kde libs which seems to work |
| 20:39.32 | serris | I like CLI apps so Fluxbox is rather good for that |
| 20:39.54 | serris | but I managed to install both the Gnome and KDE libraries and run the software fine under Fluxbuntu |
| 20:53.17 | *** join/#gllug Erwin (n=erwin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Erwin) |
| 21:03.43 | mozrat | http://gllug.org.uk/index.php?/archives/28-Day-One-of-the-LinuxWorld-Conference-and-Expo.html |
| 21:19.54 | sabinef72 | mozzie !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:19.56 | mozrat | sabby! |
| 21:20.44 | sabinef72 | how are you man ? |
| 21:21.08 | mozrat | Good thanks. pretty tired |
| 21:21.14 | mozrat | been at the Linux Expo all day |
| 21:21.21 | mozrat | Just blogging about it now |
| 21:21.38 | sabinef72 | where was it ? |
| 21:22.20 | mozrat | in west London |
| 21:22.40 | sabinef72 | nice ! |
| 21:22.43 | sabinef72 | was it fun for you ? |
| 21:23.13 | mozrat | Very fun |
| 21:23.55 | sabinef72 | you took a day off to go there ? |
| 21:24.12 | boudiccas | mozrat; if i turned up tomorrow, would i have to pay to get in? |
| 21:24.25 | boudiccas | currently ticket-less |
| 21:24.48 | secretlondon | i'll bbl - testing the rc for tomorrow.. |
| 21:25.01 | secretlondon | boudiccas: afaik you'd have to pay |
| 21:25.12 | sabinef72 | bye secretlondon |
| 21:25.13 | boudiccas | :( |
| 21:26.15 | mozrat | boudiccas: Umm, probably not |
| 21:26.31 | mozrat | boudiccas: I'm sure I could sneak you in if you want to call yourself "Chris Bell" |
| 21:26.44 | mozrat | Chris is luckily a fairly unisex name |
| 21:26.51 | mozrat | but you need to buzz me when you are outside |
| 21:26.58 | mozrat | I have some spare passes |
| 21:27.07 | mozrat | sabinef72: I took 2 days off :-) |
| 21:27.10 | mozrat | going again tomorrow |
| 21:27.33 | sabinef72 | mozzie you are too much geek ! |
| 21:27.54 | mozrat | sabinef72: yep :-) |
| 21:28.02 | sabinef72 | but we all like you ! |
| 21:28.05 | mozrat | But benoit would be impressed with this photo.... |
| 21:28.22 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/uploads/linuxexpo/Image048.jpg |
| 21:29.51 | sabinef72 | he says : "I already saw Richard Stallman 3 times" !! ah ah ! |
| 21:30.04 | boudiccas | probably not a good idea me going atm for health reasons |
| 21:30.56 | mozrat | boudiccas: :(( |
| 21:31.00 | mozrat | sabinef72: ah well |
| 21:31.19 | sabinef72 | Benoit is also too much geek |
| 21:31.25 | mozrat | boudiccas: you are welcome to hang out on the GLLUG stand. We have chairs |
| 21:33.58 | boudiccas | mozrat; sorry, I've taken it to pm |
| 21:34.13 | mozrat | k |
| 21:43.07 | mozrat | http://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/290-Day-One-of-the-Linux-Expo.html |
| 21:43.13 | mozrat | gotta run, bye folks |
| 21:53.11 | *** part/#gllug Gunde (n=spamyous@82.153.170.213) |
| 22:00.16 | trousers | Howdy all |
| 22:01.56 | sabinef72 | hi trousers |
| 22:05.05 | sabinef72 | night night |
| 22:05.56 | mozrat | trousers!! |
| 22:06.30 | serris | hi trousers |
| 22:15.15 | *** join/#gllug brb (n=brb@82-44-63-50.stb.ubr02.mort.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:30.40 | mozrat | hey deep-blue |
| 22:38.40 | deep-blue | mozrat, howdy |
| 22:38.48 | deep-blue | drink much and the lunix thing? |
| 22:44.44 | trousers | Hallo serris , you coming again tomorrow? |
| 22:46.46 | deep-blue | i think he is AFK |
| 22:46.51 | deep-blue | but he, like i, have work tomorrow |
| 22:47.28 | mozrat | deep-blue: didn't go :( |
| 22:47.28 | trousers | Ah, eight |
| 22:47.30 | wethrin | evenin', folks |
| 22:47.31 | mozrat | deep-blue: had to do some work |
| 22:47.33 | mozrat | hey wethrin! |
| 22:47.41 | wethrin | moz! How was the Expo? |
| 22:47.43 | trousers | Howdy wethrin-a |
| 22:47.46 | mozrat | wethrin: very good! |
| 22:47.48 | deep-blue | ouch |
| 22:47.54 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 22:47.58 | wethrin | Got fresh blood? |
| 22:47.58 | mozrat | wethrin: http://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/290-Day-One-of-the-Linux-Expo.html |
| 22:48.03 | trousers | There was lots of free stuff! |
| 22:48.09 | mozrat | wethrin: you in town this Friday? |
| 22:48.14 | wethrin | No, sadly |
| 22:48.29 | mozrat | wethrin: MadDog is demanding we drink beer |
| 22:48.33 | wethrin | trousers: Did you get free t-shirts? |
| 22:48.34 | deep-blue | trousers: not as much as last year |
| 22:48.40 | wethrin | mozrat: Oh, yay! Damn I can't come :( |
| 22:48.47 | mozrat | wethrin: shame :( |
| 22:48.51 | wethrin | I bet he doesn't remember me |
| 22:49.10 | mozrat | wethrin: http://beerandspeech.org/uploads/linuxexpo/mad-dog-beer-page1.jpeg |
| 22:49.22 | trousers | I dunno if I'll come tomorrow... |
| 22:49.33 | trousers | By the way, did anybody here enroll in SoC 2006? |
| 22:49.47 | murb | i think george did |
| 22:49.58 | mozrat | he did |
| 22:49.59 | murb | but i don't know if he is here any more as some people used to harras him. |
| 22:50.24 | mozrat | murb: trousers was thorougly "Georged" today |
| 22:50.48 | wethrin | maddog is a fine fellow |
| 22:50.51 | trousers | I like him; he's not as bad as was made out to be |
| 22:51.05 | wethrin | Cambridge has mellowed him a bit |
| 22:51.23 | mozrat | trousers: he was worse online. I like him too |
| 22:52.22 | deep-blue | mozrat: who was the dude there with the little toshiba tecra? |
| 22:52.36 | mozrat | deep-blue: I believe that was trousers! |
| 22:52.48 | trousers | 'twas me :) |
| 22:52.48 | deep-blue | trousers: what model is that if you dont mind me askin? |
| 22:52.52 | trousers | 3480CT |
| 22:52.55 | trousers | Portege |
| 22:53.24 | deep-blue | what were you running? |
| 22:53.27 | trousers | Ubuntu |
| 22:53.32 | trousers | Had to netboot install it |
| 22:53.41 | deep-blue | ahh serr mentioned your pcmcia troubles |
| 22:53.48 | trousers | Indeed |
| 22:53.49 | wethrin | rar |
| 22:53.57 | deep-blue | i had the same prob with another tosh |
| 22:54.01 | wethrin | In good news, I'm no longer double-natting! |
| 22:54.05 | deep-blue | is ur pcmcia drive a tosh? |
| 22:54.07 | trousers | mozrat: Getting all those packages over a good ol' hard ethernet line :) |
| 22:54.13 | mozrat | deep-blue: are you serris' chum? |
| 22:54.16 | deep-blue | yer |
| 22:54.17 | wethrin | My OpenBSD box is now talking PPPoE to my ISP |
| 22:54.21 | trousers | deep-blue: Indeed, although mozrat gave me a USB CD drive today :) |
| 22:54.44 | deep-blue | trousers: cool, else there is a floppy with a bootloader that can deal with those drives |
| 22:54.46 | mozrat | deep-blue: cool, nice to meet you guys today |
| 22:54.56 | mozrat | I didn't know Mrs Serris is +1 |
| 22:54.58 | deep-blue | ive had customers with machines like that with no optical drives like that |
| 22:55.08 | trousers | deep-blue: Oh, okay, but this model supports netbooting in BIOS, which is handy |
| 22:55.10 | deep-blue | mozrat: aye, was cool to meet you and the gllug too |
| 22:55.53 | deep-blue | trousers: lucky! mine has no built in lan |
| 22:55.58 | deep-blue | this is the floppy: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html |
| 22:56.06 | mozrat | deep-blue: if you are around on Friday night there is a pub meet |
| 22:56.18 | deep-blue | depending if im working sat, i may just pop along |
| 22:56.28 | trousers | deep-blue: This has no built in LAN, but does have a big-hunk'o'junk expansion thingy which does have LAN :) |
| 22:56.40 | deep-blue | trousers: oooo yours is dock capable |
| 22:56.52 | trousers | Possibly? |
| 22:57.13 | deep-blue | probs what the expansion pack is |
| 22:59.25 | serris | mozrat: I was incorrect at the expo. Due to some errors we were having with Fluxbuntu, we won't be switching to Edgy -yet- |
| 22:59.27 | mozrat | Evil cow |
| 22:59.49 | serris | We'll probably wait out for the bugs that pop up in the next few weeks to be fixed and for it to be slightly more staable |
| 23:00.01 | mozrat | serris: does the project have a URL? |
| 23:00.08 | serris | http://fluxbuntu.org |
| 23:01.09 | mozrat | kewl |
| 23:01.30 | serris | indeed |
| 23:01.44 | serris | What did that KDE geezer say about Fluxbuntu? |
| 23:02.01 | mozrat | the scruffy young KDE geezer with a mop of hair? |
| 23:02.15 | serris | Yeah, complaining 9 KDE symbols instead of 10 |
| 23:02.20 | serris | Wright |
| 23:02.23 | serris | Something Wright |
| 23:02.30 | wethrin | George |
| 23:02.31 | mozrat | That was George, I didn't understand what he was on about |
| 23:02.38 | wethrin | No-one understands him |
| 23:02.42 | wethrin | It's safest to keep it that way |
| 23:02.51 | deep-blue | iirc KDE being 10, but the printers only putting 9 kde logos on it |
| 23:03.04 | serris | All I heard was something on the line of "I don't get why people put the OS they use on their bedge" |
| 23:03.07 | mozrat | yeah, the T-Shirt printers fscked up |
| 23:03.16 | serris | While I actually help develop it so .. yeah |
| 23:03.38 | mozrat | serris: :-) |
| 23:03.42 | serris | : ) |
| 23:03.51 | serris | Ah well |
| 23:04.51 | trousers | Woo, putting good stuff on my laptop at last... I may come tomorrow now, as I can always work on a program if I get bored |
| 23:05.07 | deep-blue | they not got public wifi this year? |
| 23:05.32 | mozrat | trousers: I'll be on the FSFE stand in the afternoon tomorrow so you are welcome to give out leaflets and stuff tomorrow if you like |
| 23:05.41 | mozrat | deep-blue: not that I saw |
| 23:06.03 | mozrat | but.. you know.. it is better to chat to people anyway. People just go on IRC and waste time if they have internet |
| 23:06.26 | mozrat | I'm not bothered about the lack of connectivity apart from the fact I'd like to blog from the expo |
| 23:06.44 | deep-blue | lol too true "OMFG WEEE IM AT THE LINUX EXPO....USING MY LINUX LAPTOP....ON A LINUX BASED WLAN....OMFGBBQLL!!111" |
| 23:07.28 | wethrin | :) |
| 23:08.14 | serris | deep-blue: mem test still running |
| 23:08.19 | serris | Still no errors |
| 23:08.21 | deep-blue | no errors >< |
| 23:08.23 | deep-blue | bah |
| 23:08.29 | serris | 8 passes by now |
| 23:08.42 | serris | Nearly done with the 9th. Maybe the HDD is shoddy |
| 23:08.42 | deep-blue | lol more than clear |
| 23:08.48 | deep-blue | yer |
| 23:08.52 | trousers | No :( |
| 23:08.54 | deep-blue | i got no tools to hand for that |
| 23:09.05 | serris | Nor do I besides a hammer somewhere |
| 23:09.09 | deep-blue | less u wanna download the Westerndigital drive tester |
| 23:09.14 | serris | Not really |
| 23:10.01 | deep-blue | i tried the noprobe switch on the cds loader, but i got the same dumping to reboot |
| 23:10.30 | wethrin | Everyone should have tools! |
| 23:11.08 | serris | I agree but I just wish I could burn CDs on Fluxbuntu. |
| 23:11.29 | deep-blue | the mkcdfs and isoburn tools on there? |
| 23:11.43 | trousers | serris: How do you get involved in developing something like KDE? |
| 23:12.44 | *** join/#gllug rhowe_ (i=rhowe@xiao.siksai.co.uk) |
| 23:13.26 | serris | I'm guessing same way I got involved with Fluxbuntu. Hung around the community, talked to the developer(s) and offered to help if there was any need while helping others in the channel/forum with getting their Fluxbuntu install working or other issues |
| 23:13.28 | mozrat | trousers: I would think by starting to triage bugs.. add patches.. own some abandoned packages etc |
| 23:13.48 | serris | And give feedback, bug reports help and things like that |
| 23:14.21 | serris | The main Fluxbuntu developer is involved wtih some of the Ubuntu things by pretty much what me and mozrat just said |
| 23:16.41 | trousers | mozrat: Don't be suprised if you don't see me tomorrow :) |
| 23:17.07 | mozrat | no worries :-) |
| 23:17.40 | trousers | Yarr, it's just that I really want to get involved in something, but I don't know if I'm, well, good enough/correct material etc. |
| 23:18.07 | deep-blue | trousers: i for involved in beta testing office 2003 a few years ago |
| 23:18.07 | mozrat | trousers: EVERYONE can do SOMETHING.. there is so much to do. |
| 23:18.15 | mozrat | Especially in the non-coding areas |
| 23:18.30 | deep-blue | they ended up giving me a copy of office 2003 for posting 20 bugs or so |
| 23:18.31 | trousers | mozrat: I prefer the coding area :) |
| 23:18.42 | mozrat | trousers: which languages do you know? |
| 23:18.45 | mozrat | any Python? |
| 23:18.48 | trousers | C, mainly |
| 23:18.56 | trousers | Not any python, no |
| 23:19.07 | trousers | Although I might try it as it seems fairly simple + useful |
| 23:19.21 | mozrat | trousers: it is pretty simple (esp. if you already know C) |
| 23:19.25 | serris | I'm trying to catch up on my Perl and shell scripting |
| 23:20.12 | serris | Plus right now trying to get my head around XML+XSL |
| 23:20.12 | trousers | I like C, not too bloated |
| 23:20.24 | *** part/#gllug cbz (i=chriseb@vortex.ukshells.co.uk) |
| 23:24.37 | deep-blue | gah SLED is finally installed >< |
| 23:27.11 | mozrat | deep-blue: the demo version? |
| 23:27.29 | deep-blue | see i was under the impression it was |
| 23:27.35 | deep-blue | accorting to the Novell techie |
| 23:27.41 | mozrat | the only think missing is the ability to pull patches |
| 23:27.48 | mozrat | it isn't time-bombed in anyway |
| 23:27.48 | deep-blue | its a demo, which doesnt expire, and has no support |
| 23:27.58 | mozrat | and you aren't violating the licence by using it |
| 23:28.02 | deep-blue | nope |
| 23:28.11 | mozrat | so - fill yer boots |
| 23:28.13 | deep-blue | the guy said i could fiddle all i want |
| 23:28.18 | mozrat | I like SLED10 a lot |
| 23:28.33 | deep-blue | i liked OS10.1 enough to buy the boxed copy |
| 23:28.41 | deep-blue | but if sled is as better as they say... |
| 23:28.56 | mozrat | you mean SUSE10.1? |
| 23:28.58 | deep-blue | yer |
| 23:29.14 | mozrat | SLED10 is based on the OpenSUSE 10.0 code, but with some refinements |
| 23:29.24 | deep-blue | aye, i picked the techies brain |
| 23:29.27 | mozrat | like NetworkManager and the new Computer menu stuff |
| 23:29.30 | deep-blue | yea |
| 23:29.39 | deep-blue | its basically more refined, its a lot slimmer |
| 23:29.45 | mozrat | but I like the long term viability of it.. |
| 23:29.48 | deep-blue | 3000 packages to open suses 8000 |
| 23:30.02 | mozrat | yeah, that sucks a bit. I use kdissert a fair bit |
| 23:30.20 | mozrat | and mixing repos makes me anxious.. sometimes unbearably so |
| 23:30.28 | rhowe_ | I don't have sufficient ID to open a bank account! |
| 23:30.36 | rhowe | I'd either need to get a car or a gun |
| 23:30.36 | mozrat | Who are you? |
| 23:30.51 | rhowe | mozrat: I'm starting to wonder |
| 23:31.30 | deep-blue | get a shotgun, VERY easy to get a license for |
| 23:31.49 | wethrin | ARSE. The default passwords don't work on my FC switch |
| 23:32.14 | mozrat | wethrin: so don't run Fedora Core on your switch then |
| 23:32.18 | rhowe | deep-blue: That would do - "Shotgun or firearms certificate - current" would get me what I need |
| 23:32.40 | deep-blue | would a provisional driving license do? |
| 23:32.43 | wethrin | mozrat: I don't |
| 23:32.44 | wethrin | HTH |
| 23:32.44 | rhowe | deep-blue: Nope |
| 23:32.55 | deep-blue | wow they are strick |
| 23:33.00 | deep-blue | strict |
| 23:33.15 | rhowe | "Full old style driving licence *UK) - current, signed" or "Full new style (UK) photocard driving licence and paper counterpart - current, signed" |
| 23:33.27 | wethrin | I don't see why a provisional wouldn't do |
| 23:33.33 | rhowe | Oh, and "EEA photocard driving licence - current" |
| 23:33.38 | wethrin | The only difference is that one tells you that you are able to drive |
| 23:33.57 | rhowe | Hm, I could become Belgian |
| 23:34.05 | rhowe | "EEA member state identity card" |
| 23:34.55 | rhowe | deep-blue: Also, to use a passport or driving licence, it has to be certified! |
| 23:35.06 | wethrin | Belgium doesn't exist |
| 23:35.17 | rhowe | deep-blue: Oh, hang on, I'm misreading |
| 23:35.26 | rhowe | deep-blue: A certified passport will do |
| 23:35.49 | rhowe | deep-blue: "one from group A and one from group B" - the only thing in group A I have is a passport |
| 23:36.17 | deep-blue | whats the list for group B? |
| 23:36.29 | wethrin | Is it possible to get irssi to re-read its config file without restarting? |
| 23:36.36 | rhowe | And group B is easy - utility bill (take your pick!), bank statement or phone bill |
| 23:36.49 | murb | rhowe: if they make it too difficult to open an account, well just walk away. |
| 23:36.51 | rhowe | deep-blue: There are others too, but those are the 3 that I can satisfy |
| 23:37.05 | rhowe | murb: It doesn't look too bad actually.. I was misreading |
| 23:37.14 | murb | I don't think hsbc ever saw anything more than an enrolment slip from me. |
| 23:37.25 | *** join/#gllug wethrin (i=dankolb@hades.eco.li) |
| 23:37.37 | deep-blue | u not got a mobile contract or anything like the utility bill in ur name? |
| 23:37.38 | murb | certainly no passports or utility bills. |
| 23:37.42 | rhowe | hm.. most people charge money to certify documents, do they not? |
| 23:37.54 | rhowe | Therefore I can't apply for this account by post without spending money :) |
| 23:38.01 | *** join/#gllug wethrin (i=dankolb@ipv6.eco.li) |
| 23:38.03 | rhowe | Kinda negates any decent interest rate they offer :) |
| 23:38.05 | murb | rhowe: can't you visit them in person? |
| 23:38.19 | rhowe | murb: "Coventry" building society |
| 23:38.26 | rhowe | murb: I guess visiting them would cost me money too :) |
| 23:38.31 | wethrin | This seems to work better |
| 23:38.35 | murb | rhowe: i avoided using some currancy trading people because of silly conditoins, it tured out they'd have been happy to have transfered my money and done the paper work later.. |
| 23:38.47 | murb | a pity i didn't kno wthat at the timne. |
| 23:39.12 | deep-blue | there a free public ipv6 tunnel? |
| 23:39.20 | rhowe | murb: Yeah, sucks. CBS say they need proper proof of ID before they can open an account due to FSA money laundering regulations |
| 23:39.29 | murb | deep-blue: it is called 6to4 |
| 23:39.34 | rhowe | deep-blue: Several - BT Exact being one |
| 23:39.44 | murb | SixXS being one of the most well known. |
| 23:39.46 | deep-blue | iirc the bt closed for signups |
| 23:39.46 | wethrin | deep-blue: Yes |
| 23:40.00 | wethrin | I'm using uk6x (BT Exact) |
| 23:41.56 | *** join/#gllug murble (n=murble@xen0.ipv6.boughton.de) |
| 23:42.00 | mozrat | me thinks someone is about to get hobbled |
| 23:42.04 | murble | oh it works. |
| 23:42.19 | wethrin | w00t! |
| 23:42.30 | murble | (you can now get ip6.arpa via 6to4 connections) |
| 23:42.50 | murble | my local 192.88.99.1 is only 10 ms away |
| 23:43.00 | wethrin | Only one of the hosts returned with a 'host irc.ipv6.freenode.net' has a proper PTR record (calkins) |
| 23:43.33 | wethrin | murble: Can you traceroute6 2001:898:2000:3::1 |
| 23:43.34 | wethrin | ? |
| 23:43.38 | deep-blue | anyone noticed that FireFox doesnt seem to auto-download |
| 23:43.54 | wethrin | It's a setting somewhere :) |
| 23:44.39 | murble | deep-blue: autodownload what? |
| 23:44.53 | murble | i can it works. |
| 23:45.27 | deep-blue | i mean, if i TELL firefox to look for an update, it doesnt detect 2.0 |
| 23:46.30 | murb | from everywhere i tried it form. |
| 23:46.41 | murb | wethrin: maybe bt are just rubbish? |
| 23:47.24 | wethrin | murb: Must be |
| 23:48.18 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.24 | wethrin | Is what I get |
| 23:50.23 | cpufreak | wethrin: http://badger.ing.me.uk/weth.txt |
| 23:50.33 | cpufreak | slap bt. |
| 23:50.44 | wethrin | Right |
| 23:50.51 | wethrin | It's been like that for some months |
| 23:51.03 | murb | wethrin: find a new tunnelbroker, they are not in short supply! |
| 23:51.32 | cpufreak | murb: do you remember ipng.org.uk from ~3-4 years ago? |
| 23:51.36 | wethrin | murb: Ehr. I can't be bothered. It's only that one places that I've noticed. So I'm just connecting to calkins instead |
| 23:51.57 | murb | cpufreak: i rembe rsome #brits people getting very upset. |
| 23:52.01 | cpufreak | lol |
| 23:52.05 | murb | one of which was i htink you. |
| 23:52.17 | cpufreak | I don't think I got upset |
| 23:52.22 | cpufreak | that was more likely cryogen |
| 23:52.27 | murb | maybe. |
| 23:52.35 | wethrin | Why would they be upset? |
| 23:52.48 | cpufreak | it was providing a free ipv6 tunnel service |
| 23:52.51 | cpufreak | which was quite cool in itself |
| 23:52.58 | cpufreak | but twats kept dossing it |
| 23:53.04 | wethrin | bastards |
| 23:53.05 | deep-blue | mozrat: it is crippled, no online update facility |
| 23:53.07 | merlinn | haha |
| 23:53.12 | merlinn | \o/ ipng |
| 23:53.19 | cpufreak | utnil andyf had to pull it, to stop his boss complaining |
| 23:53.19 | mozrat | deep-blue: hmmm? |
| 23:53.20 | merlinn | the free vhost company |
| 23:53.25 | wethrin | OMG TEH 31337 IPV6 H4XX0RING! |
| 23:53.34 | merlinn | it was because everyone used it for l33t vhosts |
| 23:53.34 | cpufreak | 1 2 hv 2^64 vhosts pls |
| 23:53.41 | merlinn | and went ircing |
| 23:53.45 | merlinn | and got trashed |
| 23:53.57 | merlinn | I've still got all the old dangermouse scripts used to run that |
| 23:54.05 | merlinn | we should revive ipng |
| 23:54.09 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 23:54.14 | merlinn | see if we can turn clara off |
| 23:54.17 | cpufreak | lol |
| 23:54.26 | merlinn | I don't think people bother ddosing eachother anymore really |
| 23:54.33 | merlinn | I think they're too busy ddosing betfair |
| 23:54.38 | cpufreak | :D |
| 23:54.43 | cpufreak | fucking ddosers |
| 23:54.48 | cpufreak | making me have to talk to ultradns |
| 23:54.52 | cpufreak | I hate them so much |
| 23:54.52 | merlinn | ultradns? |
| 23:54.54 | merlinn | ooh soo gay |
| 23:55.00 | merlinn | why don't you just set up your own anycast dns platform |
| 23:55.01 | merlinn | ? |
| 23:55.02 | cpufreak | we use them now because they give ddos protection |
| 23:55.22 | cpufreak | because the head of is security loves ultradns |
| 23:55.22 | murb | merlinn: it is very easy to get wrong, as ultradns keep proving! |
| 23:55.31 | wethrin | cpufreak: Was it just the 3com switch I was getting off you? |
| 23:55.44 | merlinn | anyone know how netscreen HA works? |
| 23:55.50 | cpufreak | wethrin: I thought you said you didn't want the 3com |
| 23:55.55 | cpufreak | and wanted just a cat 2900xl |
| 23:56.03 | cpufreak | I've found an ultra something for you |
| 23:56.06 | cpufreak | probably a 1 |
| 23:56.19 | wethrin | Ahh. Yes. It was a Cisco switch, wasn't it? |
| 23:56.24 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 23:56.50 | wethrin | Sorry - housemate brought up a 3com switch from his home, so I got confused |
| 23:56.55 | cpufreak | np |
| 23:57.34 | murb | problem is old network kit likes to eat power fo lunch. |
| 23:57.39 | wethrin | Ooh. More Sun hardware :) |
| 23:58.00 | wethrin | murb: A lot of machines are off |
| 23:58.11 | deep-blue | my office here is godly in winter |
| 23:58.19 | wethrin | cpufreak: Is the Cisco rackable? |
| 23:58.21 | cpufreak | yes |
| 23:58.27 | cpufreak | you can have two |
| 23:58.28 | deep-blue | 4x machines on, excluding a NAS and a fBSD router >< |
| 23:58.32 | cpufreak | incase a fan failin in one |
| 23:58.32 | wethrin | Ooh |
| 23:58.37 | cpufreak | * fails |
| 23:58.39 | wethrin | Cool |
| 23:59.21 | wethrin | I have 4x machines on. Plus currently a SAN switch, and a few little devices |
