00:00.00 | secretlondon | random softMAC errors too |
00:00.01 | secretlondon | think i prefer normal xchat to gnome xchat tho |
00:00.07 | sabinef72 | I'm not so far from La Defense : only 20 mn but tramway |
00:00.27 | secretlondon | hi sabinef72 |
00:00.36 | sabinef72 | hi secretlondon |
00:00.41 | antiphase | irssi > * |
00:01.00 | deep-blue | Issy sabinef72? |
00:01.26 | sabinef72 | deep-blue: yes I'm living in Issy Les Moulineaux. How do you know that ? |
00:01.53 | deep-blue | I also have family near versailles |
00:02.09 | deep-blue | they normally collect me from Issy Les Moulineaux |
00:02.18 | Leeds | fuck |
00:02.19 | sabinef72 | funny |
00:02.21 | deep-blue | they are gonna expand the line at some point I believe |
00:02.25 | sabinef72 | Leeds ! |
00:03.09 | sabinef72 | deep-blue: now you have no excuse ! |
00:03.19 | sabinef72 | you must come here and become my new teacher |
00:03.25 | sabinef72 | I need to progress in english |
00:03.37 | deep-blue | ill be in paris between dec 24 and jan 3rd |
00:04.20 | sabinef72 | nice ! |
00:04.29 | Leeds | when you go to bed at 5am and wake up at 8 to go to the gym, "fuck" is the only appropriate way to wake up |
00:04.45 | deep-blue | Leeds too true |
00:05.09 | sabinef72 | Leeds: but it's your fault... why did you go to bed at 5am if you know you have to wake up at 8 ? |
00:05.49 | deep-blue | I did a shoot there for my photography a-level |
00:05.56 | Leeds | sabinef72: because I was out with a lady and waiting for a convenient time to dump her with other people and come home to bed |
00:06.33 | sabinef72 | ok I see |
00:06.53 | deep-blue | I love that place >< |
00:07.04 | sabinef72 | yes |
00:07.09 | sabinef72 | did you ever been on the top ? |
00:07.35 | deep-blue | I was depressed by the lack of view |
00:07.50 | deep-blue | the fact you cant see down to the plaza |
00:08.10 | deep-blue | I have to convince my cousin to get me into his office in the SocGen tower |
00:08.24 | Leeds | I went up the arch |
00:08.27 | sabinef72 | he he |
00:08.49 | Leeds | also went up the steps in the Arc do Triumphe |
00:09.05 | Leeds | or however you foreigners spell it |
00:09.07 | deep-blue | I cheated, went up in the lift, down the stairs >< much nicer view from there |
00:09.07 | sabinef72 | and the eiffel tour ? |
00:09.16 | sabinef72 | Arc de Triomphe |
00:10.50 | deep-blue | I miss france >< |
00:11.09 | catalyst | I missed france |
00:11.14 | catalyst | I hit germany instead |
00:11.16 | catalyst | :( |
00:11.33 | deep-blue | hehe I finally received my boxed copy last week |
00:11.35 | sabinef72 | well, it's late. I'll go to bed |
00:11.40 | sabinef72 | see you tomorrow ! |
00:11.44 | catalyst | night sabinef72 =) |
00:11.47 | Leeds | g'night |
00:12.07 | deep-blue | bonne nuit sabinef72 |
00:12.22 | sabinef72 | bonne nuit deep-blue et à demain ! |
00:12.29 | deep-blue | ciao |
00:13.22 | catalyst | oyasumi nasai! |
00:13.52 | Leeds | lilah tov |
00:13.59 | Leeds | or boker tov in my case |
00:19.33 | deep-blue | bleh |
00:22.37 | deep-blue | oo fuck me, my isp have a debian mirror :D |
00:22.46 | antiphase | No thanks |
00:22.52 | deep-blue | :p |
00:22.54 | antiphase | Is that good? |
00:23.12 | antiphase | blueyonder have many mirrors |
00:23.16 | deep-blue | im net installing debian, so im getting 1.2mbit |
00:23.37 | antiphase | I always wonder why people do that |
00:23.42 | wethrin | Net installing? |
00:23.59 | deep-blue | well in this case, I have no cd/dvd drive |
00:24.31 | secretlondon | nice |
00:24.31 | secretlondon | I'm getting dialup speeds with major periods of laaag |
00:25.33 | antiphase | What's up with it? |
00:26.38 | secretlondon | my adsl? |
00:27.14 | secretlondon | err. it got cut off for pauper reasons |
00:28.00 | catalyst | d'oh |
00:28.14 | antiphase | Did some homeless dude gnaw through your phone wire? |
00:28.24 | deep-blue | catalyst spec? |
00:28.47 | wethrin | And they're on the BBC Multicast trial |
00:29.46 | deep-blue | ive had 5 customers dump talktalk this week |
00:30.11 | catalyst | deep-blue: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/nbrange.html?RVF (celeron M 1.6GHz, 512Mb RAM) |
00:30.26 | catalyst | "ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Graphics" |
00:31.08 | secretlondon | i'm on an eratic community wifi style device |
00:31.09 | secretlondon | which is too eractic for taste |
00:31.13 | secretlondon | antiphase: i'm a student.. |
00:31.37 | antiphase | You can get baked beans for < £0.10 these days |
00:32.01 | antiphase | Which surely offsets the cost of ADSL :) |
00:32.15 | secretlondon | they are about 18p, and contain half the daily recommended dose of salt.. |
00:32.17 | wethrin | Hm. Unlimited 8MB for £28/month |
00:32.34 | secretlondon | it was bt that cut me off anyway |
00:32.46 | secretlondon | my isp were the people who told me, actually |
00:32.58 | antiphase | I've got unlimited 17Mb for £0.00. I do work for an ISP though MU HA HA HA |
00:34.13 | secretlondon | aaisp rock - but I'm not sure I can afford to go back to them |
00:34.39 | antiphase | Even the most budget and shite ADSL would be better than dial-up |
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00:35.05 | deep-blu3 | freakin weird power issues |
00:35.33 | catalyst | PlusNET suck |
00:35.40 | catalyst | except that they let us have a 16 IP subnet |
00:35.45 | catalyst | with minimal fuss |
00:36.01 | secretlondon | antiphase: I'm not on dialup, i'm on shite wifi |
00:36.16 | antiphase | Stolen? :) |
00:36.34 | secretlondon | borrowed with permission |
00:36.41 | wethrin | G'night all! |
00:36.46 | secretlondon | night wethrin |
00:37.34 | catalyst | night wethrin :) |
00:38.59 | secretlondon | hmm. gnome weather applet doesn't seem to know about sunsets anymore and thinks it's sunny here |
00:39.31 | catalyst | hehe |
01:29.33 | deep-blue | hmm |
01:38.28 | secretlondon | are we still on bst? |
01:38.42 | deep-blue | nope |
01:38.45 | deep-blue | now GMT |
01:38.59 | secretlondon | so this is the second 1.39am today? |
01:39.03 | catalyst | yes |
01:39.07 | deep-blue | yer |
01:39.11 | secretlondon | ah - i wonder where that hour went.. |
01:39.14 | catalyst | and log files all over the world are going to get very confusing |
01:39.35 | secretlondon | lag and synpatic ate my evening |
01:39.49 | catalyst | whereby I try and analyse existence too much and end up knawing my leg off in response |
01:41.08 | deep-blue | but surely |
01:41.12 | deep-blue | you can only do that twice? |
01:41.22 | catalyst | I've never actually knawed my leg off |
01:41.25 | catalyst | it's more a figurative thing |
01:41.32 | deep-blue | :p |
01:42.04 | secretlondon | yes you must be right - syslog agrees with you ;) |
01:43.00 | secretlondon | does anyone know of a decent 3d package that isn't super scary like blender? |
01:43.12 | catalyst | C |
01:43.12 | secretlondon | I know if wings3d but it doens't do what I want alas |
01:43.27 | catalyst | just program the vertices yourself |
01:43.30 | catalyst | :< |
01:43.50 | catalyst | blender's probably easier to understand if you consider that its interface was designed for tablet users |
01:44.08 | secretlondon | i want "render to texture" for gaming skins |
01:44.15 | catalyst | but I doubt you'll find a 3D package for a reasonable price with a reasonable feature set aside from blender |
01:45.02 | secretlondon | i know maya and 3d studio max do it ;) |
01:45.02 | secretlondon | we need a free version of poser |
01:45.02 | secretlondon | with added shiny |
01:45.13 | catalyst | \o/ |
01:45.24 | catalyst | go on then, sign up a project on sf ;p |
01:49.28 | catalyst | http://excds.ath.cx/fun/images/kmartvz5.jpg <--- *snigger* |
01:49.38 | catalyst | secretlondon: the spirit of open source! :) |
01:56.55 | secretlondon | Ubuntu art is so boring I've just registered to improve it ;) |
01:57.08 | secretlondon | image still loading.. |
02:05.02 | catalyst | secretlondon: good luck :) |
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02:09.44 | catalyst | hello again XD |
02:09.57 | secretlondon | i think i'm gonna have to go back to dapper as the lag is killing me |
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02:16.49 | catalyst | hello again, again :) |
02:16.54 | secretlondon | rehi |
02:17.20 | secretlondon | much better connection now :( |
02:18.01 | catalyst | that doesn't say much for Edgy then :( |
02:18.14 | catalyst | (assuming that's what you switched back from) |
02:19.02 | secretlondon | well it's because the zd1211 driver was changed - a new one is included in the kernel |
02:19.18 | secretlondon | but the zd1211rw isn't as good with weak signals I think |
02:19.28 | catalyst | ah right |
02:19.33 | catalyst | wireless then? |
02:19.35 | secretlondon | but it generally a bit weird |
02:19.50 | secretlondon | i'm using a friends wireless until i get my adsl back |
02:21.40 | catalyst | ah! |
02:24.24 | secretlondon | you'll prob be able to sue either the open source or the non-open source drivers |
02:24.45 | secretlondon | s/sue/use |
02:24.46 | catalyst | I'll get the lawyers ready then |
02:24.56 | secretlondon | s/sue/use/ |
02:25.00 | catalyst | hehe |
02:45.39 | Leeds | okay, definitely not the best gym session I;ve ever had |
02:47.08 | catalyst | howcome? |
02:51.27 | Leeds | because it was at 8:30 on a Sunday morning after about 3 hours sleep, with a hurriedly-eaten tuna sandwich in my stomach, which was otherwise feeling a little fragile, and having slept from about 8am to 1pm on Saturday |
02:52.20 | Leeds | but apart from that... :-) |
02:54.12 | Leeds | I normally go around mid-day, and having had at least something vaguely like a proper night's sleep |
03:01.27 | catalyst | ah! |
04:01.19 | secretlondon | i'm munching on bread - we have a turkish 24hr shop here that sells bread called pide (same root as pitta) for 60p - they are massive things the size of a shelf of my fridge.. |
04:01.54 | secretlondon | but about 10cm thick - not pitta like at all |
04:07.40 | catalyst | tasty |
04:08.04 | catalyst | we have no 24 hour shop round here that sells anything :( |
04:08.39 | secretlondon | bah - I live off a major road so we have a couple, a 24 hr bagel place, and lots of late night kebab places |
04:10.32 | catalyst | can I move in next door? |
04:11.27 | secretlondon | you can replace the mad bloke downstairs if you want.. |
04:12.06 | Leeds | I've got a 7-11 on the street, a 24-hour McDonalds on the other end of the block, and a couple of 24-hour Chinese diner-type places within a few minutes walk |
04:14.11 | secretlondon | leeds: wheres this? |
04:14.28 | Leeds | North Point |
04:14.50 | secretlondon | i don't know it - not London I guess |
04:15.18 | Leeds | not exactly, no |
04:15.29 | Leeds | try a few thousand miles east |
04:15.31 | Leeds | quite a few... |
04:15.42 | secretlondon | ooh |
04:15.47 | secretlondon | singapore? |
04:15.55 | Leeds | further - but close ;-) |
04:16.05 | catalyst | Hong Kong :) |
04:16.11 | Leeds | impressively close for a first guess |
04:16.12 | secretlondon | ah cool |
04:16.24 | catalyst | Southampton: Lacking in Cool(tm) |
04:16.35 | secretlondon | Walworth - it can get cold |
04:17.43 | catalyst | but you have shops |
04:17.47 | Leeds | Hong Kong: not a colony any more - we're a Special Administrative Region now! |
04:17.51 | catalyst | I get to rely on my freezer |
04:18.11 | catalyst | Leeds: just a plural off a viral disease :) |
04:18.51 | Leeds | indeed |
04:19.13 | catalyst | my friends need to let me be more spontaneous |
04:19.28 | catalyst | one of them said that she doesn't want me coming round at 4am because it'll wake up her housemates |
04:19.30 | catalyst | pfft |
04:19.41 | catalyst | I suspect she's also a little scared of me |
04:19.42 | Leeds | heh |
04:21.07 | catalyst | I live in hope |
04:21.37 | Leeds | I live in China |
04:21.59 | secretlondon | I live in a tip |
04:21.59 | catalyst | congrats |
04:23.03 | Leeds | secretlondon: what's so secret about London, anyway? |
04:23.53 | secretlondon | Leeds: nothing really. There are/were secret bits - and I lack imagination name wise |
04:24.02 | secretlondon | Leeds:why leeds? |
04:24.37 | Leeds | my home town |
04:24.46 | catalyst | that is a question I imagine a lot of UK citizens ask themselves all the time |
04:25.09 | secretlondon | Leeds is posh, Bradford is a total shit hole |
04:25.23 | Leeds | yup |
04:25.35 | catalyst | had a very nice curry in bradford, actually |
04:26.05 | Leeds | secretlondon: I'm just reading Bill Bryson's "Notes From A Small Country" and he's pretty scathing about Bradford, apart from the curry, the Alhambra and the museum |
04:26.28 | secretlondon | it's dreadful |
04:26.36 | secretlondon | the locals are the real problem |
04:26.53 | secretlondon | i left aged 19 and have no intention of going back |
04:27.14 | secretlondon | it's like daily mail land with added bnp recruitment areas |
04:27.45 | Leeds | heh |
04:27.53 | catalyst | nasty |
04:30.01 | Leeds | I got out of Leeds when I was 18, anyway |
04:30.29 | secretlondon | i was just 19 when I started uni |
04:43.20 | catalyst | mm, cheese on toast |
05:36.55 | Leeds | so was I |
06:00.50 | Leeds | but I spent a year in Israel between my 18th and 19th birthdays |
06:01.19 | secretlondon | ah |
06:06.24 | Leeds | hmm... my regular local forum contains "Where to buy kitten?" and "Where to eat dog?" in the recent topics list... |
06:06.42 | Leeds | http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/thread15165.html |
06:07.11 | secretlondon | yum! |
06:07.25 | secretlondon | homesick koreans? |
06:09.16 | Leeds | curious westerners, more likely |
06:09.49 | secretlondon | probably |
06:11.46 | Leeds | I don't think I've met that user... anyway, going out now - have a good day |
06:12.53 | secretlondon | bye |
06:13.01 | catalyst | so |
06:13.04 | catalyst | still up? |
06:13.07 | secretlondon | well night really - its somehow 6am here |
06:13.20 | catalyst | au revoir Leeds |
06:13.26 | secretlondon | yeah - i've uploaded 15 photos now |
06:13.37 | catalyst | I'm supposed to meet someone to go shopping at 11:30 |
06:13.52 | catalyst | links? |
06:15.21 | catalyst | nevermind |
06:15.25 | secretlondon | 1 sec |
06:15.32 | secretlondon | i'm waiting for it to upload |
06:16.00 | catalyst | no penguins :( |
06:16.09 | secretlondon | just done one now |
06:16.23 | secretlondon | south african penguins, no less |
06:16.39 | secretlondon | waa - broken image |
06:16.54 | catalyst | :< |
06:17.18 | secretlondon | uploading again |
06:17.41 | secretlondon | my tired brain got confused between the html file starting image:blah.jpg and the file blah.jpg |
06:18.00 | secretlondon | http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php?g2_itemId=691 |
06:18.16 | catalyst | yay! penguins! |
06:18.18 | catalyst | okay |
06:18.27 | catalyst | time for me to get *some* sleep at least |
06:18.30 | catalyst | sigh |
06:18.30 | secretlondon | well sleep well |
06:18.34 | secretlondon | g'night |
06:18.35 | catalyst | I should stop abusing myself like this XD |
06:18.40 | catalyst | 'night |
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06:23.51 | morsing | 'morning |
06:25.39 | secretlondon | morning |
06:25.52 | secretlondon | you've just missed catalyst who has just gone to bed |
06:26.01 | morsing | Nice |
06:26.12 | secretlondon | i'm still awake in the middle of something ;) |
06:27.02 | morsing | :) |
06:34.07 | morsing | Cawfy? |
06:35.37 | secretlondon | nocturnal really |
06:35.48 | secretlondon | but i should go soon as I'm making mistakes |
06:37.33 | morsing | Putting holes in footballs? |
06:38.57 | secretlondon | collating african penguins |
06:39.11 | secretlondon | http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php?g2_itemId=691 |
06:40.48 | morsing | Cool :) |
07:19.12 | secretlondon | good night :) |
07:26.45 | serris | morning all |
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07:29.38 | serris | hi Gunde |
07:33.26 | Gunde | Good morning (: |
07:36.27 | morsing | 'morning Gunde |
07:38.47 | serris | Lovely that the clocks got set back |
07:38.56 | serris | I finished work at 7AM instead of 8 |
07:41.11 | Gunde | you work in night shift? |
07:41.42 | serris | yep |
07:42.44 | Gunde | just every now and then, or always? |
07:42.48 | serris | always |
07:43.21 | Gunde | Doing what? |
07:43.26 | serris | At a supermarket |
07:43.54 | Gunde | That is then one of those 24/7 places? |
07:45.07 | serris | nope |
07:45.12 | serris | but we gotta replanish the place by 8AM |
07:45.18 | Gunde | ah ok |
07:45.27 | serris | Tonight was fun. Pulled my shoulder |
07:45.39 | Gunde | If you call that fun... |
07:45.56 | serris | Well not really bu there isn't really anything I can do aobut it so might as well try to look at it on the bright side |
07:46.03 | Gunde | At what time do you usually start working? |
07:46.06 | serris | 10PM |
07:46.10 | serris | so 10 hour shift |
07:46.11 | Gunde | And what is the bright side about it? |
07:46.31 | serris | Pretty much |
07:46.39 | serris | Probably the funny side is how I pulled it |
07:46.43 | Gunde | (except that you might go on sick leave now) |
07:46.45 | serris | I was throwing wine bottles around |
07:47.01 | serris | Sick leave? With a pulled shoulder? lol I wish |
07:47.24 | serris | Unless you stepped on a land mine and both your legs are missing you don't really get sick leave |
07:48.01 | Gunde | But if you go on sick leave your salary still gets paid to you for some time here in GB, or not? |
07:48.38 | serris | Nope |
07:48.44 | serris | unless you're off longer than 3 days |
07:48.55 | serris | In which case you have to give a doctors certificate |
07:49.06 | serris | and even with that they can decide not to pay you if they feel it wasn't a worthy cause to miss work |
07:49.17 | serris | So you're better off working sick than not getting payed at all for 2 weeks |
07:49.18 | Gunde | if you are off for less than 3 days your monthly pay gets shortened? |
07:49.31 | serris | yep |
07:49.36 | serris | And you get a warning |
07:50.06 | Gunde | hmm, must be a university deal then to be different, because I got my normal salary after illness. |
07:50.12 | Gunde | ... and no warning. |
07:50.21 | serris | In a year I've been off twice. Each time for one day. Once cause my teeth root infections came back. The other time I was throwing up for 48 hours |
07:50.55 | Gunde | morsing: What is the system like in Denmark? |
07:51.24 | Gunde | What happens if you get ill during your holidays, is that just bad luck for you? |
07:51.53 | serris | If you get ill during holiday and you can prove that you were at my place, they will rearrange your holidays so you don't lose them |
07:52.36 | Gunde | but that is not a legal requirement then? |
07:53.00 | serris | hmm? |
07:53.39 | Gunde | I must say in that respect I like German laws. If you get sick during holidays the days you lose get "refunded". |
07:53.55 | serris | that's what I said happens |
07:54.02 | serris | They give you back those days and you don't lose them. |
07:54.47 | Gunde | yes, you said it is like that at your place, and I wanted to know whether it is, because you work in a nice place, or because it is a general regulation. |
07:56.31 | serris | I don't know |
07:56.34 | serris | I think it's general |
07:58.06 | Gunde | ok |
07:58.13 | serris | And this isn't a nice place : ) |
07:58.38 | Gunde | So what are you going to do with that extra hour? |
07:59.43 | serris | Watch trailers on apple.com unless someone replies to my thread on linuxquestions.org while trying to guide my 12 year old through installing VMWare Server on Edubuntu |
08:00.43 | serris | Damn my shoulder hurts. |
08:02.01 | Gunde | Maybe take a hot bath. |
08:03.10 | serris | I'll fall asleep there |
08:03.12 | serris | : ( |
08:03.42 | serris | My mate did his shoulder in too. His' been knackered for a week now |
08:04.10 | Gunde | Ask your son to wake you up after half an hour. |
08:04.32 | serris | lol that'd work if he wouldn't forget |
08:05.36 | Gunde | Hmm, there are funny little devices used for tea making. Look like a little penguin with a timer, and after x minutes the beak goes up, and the teabag attached moves out of the mug. |
08:05.45 | Gunde | You need something like that for the plug. |
08:06.02 | serris | Yeah although in the UK they don't put plugs in the bathrooms =/ |
08:06.29 | Gunde | http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00008WV6K.03._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1060260907_.jpg |
08:07.12 | serris | yeah |
08:07.17 | Gunde | How do you prevent the water from leaving the tub if you dont have a plug? |
08:07.25 | serris | oh right that plug |
08:08.13 | Gunde | Ah, you meant other plugs (: |
08:08.17 | serris | yep |
08:08.34 | Gunde | I take it that is due to health and safety regulations? |
08:08.50 | serris | Probably |
08:09.06 | serris | Just like how in my parents' house there is meant to be some safety wall when you come in |
08:09.26 | Gunde | A great disappointment for me was to discover you dont place live candles on your christmas trees. |
08:09.31 | serris | but it was ugly/annoying so we knocked it right down after the council's regulator left |
08:10.01 | serris | I don't place burning candels anywhere. My wife puts the smelly ones around the place every so often but I'm not too peachy about it |
08:11.19 | Gunde | I just looked up "peachy" in the dictionary, but the translation doesn't make sense. |
08:11.31 | serris | happy, good mood, things like that |
08:11.36 | Gunde | Would you mind thinking about rephrasing? |
08:11.39 | Gunde | ok |
08:11.42 | Gunde | weird |
08:12.07 | serris | yep |
08:12.07 | Gunde | the dictionary offers "like a peach" and "fancy" |
08:12.13 | serris | : ) |
08:13.49 | Gunde | Your first name doesnt look typical British to me. |
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08:14.14 | Gunde | More baltic |
08:14.33 | serris | Hungarian |
08:14.59 | Gunde | Ah ok, completely wrong direction then |
08:15.46 | serris | :) |
08:16.42 | Gunde | And you come from Hungary? |
08:16.46 | serris | Yep |
08:16.55 | Gunde | When did you move to the UK? |
08:17.14 | Gunde | (assuming you are in the uk) |
08:17.35 | serris | 9 years ago |
08:17.55 | Gunde | Was it for job reasons? |
08:18.12 | serris | nah, other |
08:18.49 | Gunde | Am I too nosey? |
08:18.57 | serris | Nope : ) |
08:19.32 | Gunde | So, your son is older than that, does it mean you brought your family over, or was your family the reason for you to come here? |
08:22.31 | serris | : ) |
08:26.10 | serris | Woohoo I just won 50 quid |
08:26.29 | Gunde | How that? |
08:26.48 | serris | I had a bet with me mate from work for 50 quid that Adam Sandler is not in American Pie |
08:27.17 | Gunde | ibot Adam Sandler |
08:27.27 | ibot | methinks adam sandler is the most unfunny, overrated, untalented actor in the world |
08:27.39 | Gunde | hmm, how do you ask the bot to google for something? |
08:28.18 | Gunde | Never heard of him |
08:28.25 | serris | http://imdb.com/name/nm0001191/ |
08:30.08 | Gunde | Looking at the German wikipedia article it mentions though that he is going to play a main role in American Pie 4. |
08:32.50 | serris | Yeah but we betted he was the main guy in American Pie the first. And that he was the one who forenicated the pie. But it was another guy |
08:36.39 | trousers | Morning |
08:36.48 | morsing | trousers! |
08:36.54 | Gunde | morning trousers (: |
08:36.57 | trousers | morsing! |
08:37.37 | serris | hi trousers |
08:37.49 | trousers | morsing: Are you coming on the 11th? |
08:38.08 | morsing | Possibly not |
08:38.13 | morsing | :) |
08:38.18 | trousers | Will I ever meet you D:? |
08:38.37 | morsing | Possibly not :) |
08:38.52 | morsing | I do go to gllug social pub meets |
08:39.05 | morsing | But going all the way into London on a Saturday... |
08:39.14 | morsing | Hmm... |
08:39.27 | trousers | morsing: Where do you live? |
08:39.30 | serris | I sadly have work on friday + saturday, hence I never go |
08:39.31 | morsing | Hmm...Aylesbury |
08:39.46 | trousers | Ah |
08:39.47 | morsing | Also I can't be seen with Mozrat... |
08:39.55 | trousers | I don't work yet :) |
08:40.01 | Gunde | serris: But it starts at daytime. |
08:40.28 | serris | Yep but I'm not going to work after a few beers, being up half of the day and trying to pull a 10 hour shift |
08:40.44 | Gunde | leaving out the beer is not an option? |
08:40.49 | morsing | serris: Can you not sleep through your shift? |
08:40.52 | trousers | Wake up with ProPlus? |
08:40.59 | Gunde | what is ProPlus? |
08:41.01 | serris | I wish, morsing |
08:41.06 | trousers | Caffeine tablets :) |
08:41.13 | serris | Sometimes I do sleep through breaks and +15 minutes |
08:41.20 | morsing | serris: Do yuo actually do anything on these "shifts"? |
08:41.20 | serris | but them my manager(s) aren't happy |
08:41.23 | serris | and I get kicked |
08:41.26 | serris | yep |
08:41.34 | trousers | serris: What do you do? |
08:41.35 | serris | I made the mistake of working hard when I joined |
08:41.36 | Gunde | morsing: He hurts himself |
08:41.39 | morsing | :) |
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08:42.04 | serris | So now they know I can do the job so they get me to work hard |
08:42.05 | trousers | serris: As in, what jon? |
08:42.05 | serris | : ( |
08:42.10 | serris | Sainsbury's |
08:42.11 | serris | Nightshift |
08:42.16 | trousers | Ah, right |
08:42.44 | trousers | Why would there be? |
08:42.48 | morsing | Who died? |
08:42.49 | serris | Minimum cases / hour throughout the entire shop is 45. On BWS I can do about 110-120 an hour and 70-80 on pet food |
08:43.03 | LeedsTreo | 11/11 |
08:43.12 | serris | and sadly my managers try to enforce this |
08:43.15 | LeedsTreo | BWS? |
08:43.20 | morsing | LeedsTreo: Oh god I hope not... *sigh* |
08:43.25 | serris | Beers Wines Spirits |
08:43.27 | LeedsTreo | ah |
08:43.41 | trousers | What's so special about 11/11? |
08:44.04 | LeedsTreo | armistice/remembrance day |
08:44.08 | trousers | Ah, right |
08:44.16 | Gunde | hmm, and the beginning of carnival season |
08:44.29 | serris | brb cigarette break |
08:45.28 | LeedsTreo | there's a guy I know having a party here that night - I keep joking that he's celebrating the end of WWI |
09:03.10 | serris | trousers: your laptop still running fine ? : ) |
09:03.17 | trousers | Yup |
09:03.20 | serris | Sounds good |
09:03.26 | trousers | serris: Yours working okay? |
09:03.28 | serris | How was the 2nd day? |
09:03.32 | serris | Yep indeed |
09:04.16 | boudiccas | time for table tennis :) |
09:04.16 | trousers | I just need to get a decent WiFi card - the only thing this shitty USB one can do is scan for networks, so I guess it might be okay if I learn a bit of Perl and sync it up with my watch and go for a bit of warcycling :D |
09:04.39 | serris | haha |
09:04.41 | serris | : ) |
09:05.07 | trousers | But a guy I know is giving me an Orinoco based PCMCIA WiFi card free \o/ |
09:05.20 | serris | Me and me mate went war driving from Whitton to Heathrow and back around Hounslow at 2AM. Found I think 300 wifi spots and out of that only about 30 were encrypted and secured |
09:05.47 | serris | Orinoco are great |
09:05.49 | serris | I had one of those |
09:06.04 | trousers | Marvellous, my USB Netgear MA111 is iffy |
09:06.19 | trousers | I had to ndiswrapper -i the Windows .inf etc. |
09:06.50 | serris | I don't have wifi at the moment. i didn't really like it. But someone has in my area. 10Mbit blueyonder cable without encryption |
09:07.01 | trousers | Wait, where do you live? |
09:07.05 | serris | Hounslow |
09:07.33 | trousers | Ah, okay, it's just that I leave mine unsecure most of the time as most of the people around here are technically incompetent |
09:07.35 | serris | I used to have 10Mbit BlueYonder when I lived in Isleworth |
09:08.00 | serris | In Isleworth most people in my street were over 70 |
09:08.13 | trousers | I still do allegedly, but I think they bumped it down a bit :( |
09:08.16 | morsing | Moo |
09:08.17 | serris | There were a few families around so just in a 30 yard stretch there were 3 other wifi networks |
09:08.45 | trousers | Due to constantly running a (legal legal legal ;)) bittorrent client |
09:09.12 | trousers | Ahar! My GCSE revision method > all others :P |
09:09.19 | serris | Well if they're anything like most DSL companies, they'll say "Up to xMbit" meaning you might be getting 512Kbit but potentially you have the capabilities receiving 8Mbit |
09:09.21 | trousers | http://trousers.ath.cx/wiki/GCSE_Revision |
09:09.43 | serris | Link doesn't work |
09:10.01 | trousers | http://trousers.ath.cx/wiki/Gindex.php/CSE_Revision |
09:10.05 | trousers | http://trousers.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/GCSE_Revision |
09:10.07 | trousers | There :) |
09:10.48 | serris | You're actually revising for GCSEs? |
09:11.09 | trousers | Ish, I've decided myself a list of grades I'll get with/without revision |
09:11.20 | trousers | And I should be able to get into 6th form without revising :P |
09:11.34 | trousers | But better safe than sorry |
09:11.37 | serris | : ) |
09:11.53 | trousers | George told me not to revise |
09:12.05 | trousers | But I usually prefer to err on the side of caution |
09:12.41 | trousers | I also need to get A* in maths this year L( |
09:12.41 | serris | : ) |
09:12.42 | trousers | :( |
09:12.50 | trousers | I only got an A last year :'( |
09:13.06 | serris | Better than me. Got Ds 'till GCSEs when I somehow managed to get a C |
09:13.23 | trousers | Was this a no-revision policy? ;) |
09:13.47 | serris | Nah, this was a play Counter-Strike 30 hours in a row before exam or get drunk policy |
09:13.54 | trousers | Hehe |
09:13.56 | serris | or even better, both |
09:14.13 | serris | I'm actually tempted to go back to college next year |
09:14.56 | serris | Depends how things go |
09:17.52 | trousers | Hmm, Qt in C++ seems a lot simpler to grasp than GTK+ |
09:18.05 | serris | I haven't used either |
09:18.06 | trousers | I really need to learn C++ properly rather than picking it up as I go, though :P |
09:18.32 | serris | Yeah |
09:18.40 | serris | I have the SAMS Teach Your Self C++ book |
09:18.42 | serris | it's not too bad |
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09:50.14 | serris | What'cha have for breakfast? |
09:50.22 | trousers | A chocolate croissant :) |
09:50.41 | serris | Nice |
09:50.48 | serris | I had a bunch of Milky Ways |
09:50.51 | trousers | Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
09:50.59 | trousers | I have loads of DT coursework in for tomorrow :( |
09:51.36 | trousers | And geography |
09:52.34 | serris | trousers: have you used Xdialog before? |
09:53.11 | trousers | Not that I know of |
09:53.33 | trousers | You ever used Tex? :) |
09:53.39 | serris | no |
09:58.39 | Gunde | what is DT? |
10:15.57 | keithlard_ | what up |
10:51.46 | wethrin | rar |
10:58.11 | trousers | Gunde: Err, werken, I think it is |
10:58.55 | trousers | Gunde: It's design technology - basically crap engineering for dummies |
10:59.27 | trousers | (La)TeX is really, I think I might do some stuff in it |
10:59.48 | trousers | I really hate it when OpenOffice/Word buggers up all my tables, graphs, alignment etc. >:( |
10:59.57 | trousers | *really neat |
11:00.05 | sabinef72 | morning all |
11:01.06 | trousers | Good morning |
11:01.45 | keithlard_ | how do |
11:06.02 | Gunde | trousers: I would have liked to do that, but instead I was forced to take a class in the equivalent of needlework /-: |
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11:28.09 | JAV | hello |
11:29.05 | Gunde | hello |
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12:00.12 | mozrat | morning |
12:00.21 | mozrat | or afternoon |
12:00.24 | mozrat | one or the other |
12:04.00 | JAV | after the hour change ... afternoon :D |
12:09.24 | mozrat | heh |
12:19.02 | mozrat | Freebird! |
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12:22.42 | mozrat | \m/ |
12:24.56 | deep-blue | frikkin timezones >< |
12:26.04 | sabinef72 | mozrat ! |
12:26.12 | mozrat | hey sabinef72 |
12:26.28 | deep-blue | morning mozrat, sabinef72 |
12:26.33 | sabinef72 | hi deep-blue ! |
12:26.54 | sabinef72 | mozrat: I'll buy a book about London next week |
12:27.05 | mozrat | Cool |
12:27.20 | sabinef72 | and I'll see what I would like or not to visit |
12:28.11 | deep-blue | tottenham court road :D |
12:28.30 | sabinef72 | what is it ? |
12:28.58 | deep-blue | mecca for people into computers |
12:28.58 | merlinn | a street full of electronic hardware |
12:29.14 | sabinef72 | are you crazy ? |
12:29.23 | deep-blue | ...yes....:p |
12:29.24 | sabinef72 | I want to see "typical" London |
12:29.26 | merlinn | it wouldn't be first on my list |
12:29.40 | merlinn | although tottenham court road is one of the primary shopping streets in the city |
12:29.56 | deep-blue | typical...hmm....embankment on a weekend, portabello road market by st james |
12:30.07 | sabinef72 | I never went in London, so I only want to see typical London |
12:30.20 | merlinn | typical london and the interesting parts of london are two different things |
12:30.28 | sabinef72 | arg |
12:30.31 | merlinn | the best way to get a synopsis is to walk along the thames on your first day |
12:30.35 | mozrat | yes, I agree. You want to see tourist London, not typical London |
12:30.47 | merlinn | you go past * |
12:30.51 | merlinn | and can take a detour |
12:30.53 | mozrat | typical London is standing with 4,000 other commuters on a stuck train on the central London |
12:31.02 | merlinn | and having some guy rubbing his blals on your leg |
12:31.03 | mozrat | with your nose in a businessmans sweaty armpit |
12:31.07 | sabinef72 | mozrat: I would like both ! |
12:31.21 | mozrat | on the central line** |
12:31.58 | deep-blue | if you like La Defense, you'd like Canary whaft, scept there isnt TOO much there >< |
12:31.58 | mozrat | afk |
12:32.40 | sabinef72 | nice |
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12:35.37 | formi | allo! |
12:36.32 | mozrat | hey formi!! |
12:36.55 | formi | and me thinking everyone was at mass |
12:37.24 | mozrat | I'm worshipping Lynyrd Skynynrd right now actually |
12:37.45 | andrew___ | hi formi + mozrat |
12:37.49 | mozrat | hey andrew___ |
12:38.20 | formi | im thorougly annoyed today |
12:39.21 | formi | is there anybody with javascript skills |
12:39.27 | formi | around? |
12:40.06 | andrew___ | depends what you mean by JS skills. I am reluctant JS programmer. |
12:40.10 | andrew___ | What do you want to know? |
12:41.03 | formi | i use firefox with javascript disabled for almost everything |
12:41.46 | formi | but in the few occasion i allow it to be used the b*rd seends info about my screen size |
12:42.18 | formi | i want to find out a way to make that size static |
12:43.02 | formi | actually it is the "max window size" as shown in http://projectip.com |
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12:43.57 | morsing | cawfy |
12:44.18 | morsing | andrew___: Why am I tired? |
12:47.04 | andrew___ | I can't see window size on projectip.com |
12:47.38 | formi | do you have javascript on? |
12:52.43 | andrew___ | Ah - I have NoScript which means I don't have JS on for most websites |
12:54.09 | formi | I use it as well |
12:54.30 | andrew___ | Tempororarily put it on and see what you mean. |
12:54.36 | andrew___ | Off to have lunch now ... |
13:11.49 | deep-blue | hmmk, ima try to install gentoo >< |
13:11.51 | deep-blue | bbl guys |
13:14.20 | antiphase | See ya next week ;) |
13:15.13 | sabinef72 | good sunday antiphase |
13:18.37 | antiphase | Bon dimanche or whtever you say over there |
13:23.24 | sabinef72 | "bon dimanche" is perfect |
13:28.25 | antiphase | I'm going to have to go and pollute myself by visiting PC World |
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13:37.29 | sabinef72 | is it a shop ? |
13:37.45 | Gunde | Yes, it is a shop |
13:38.14 | Leeds | the most mass market of mass market computer shops |
13:38.22 | sabinef72 | oh oh he shouldn't go ... otherwise he'll buy some geek machines ! |
13:38.34 | Gunde | He could order online instead |
13:39.03 | sabinef72 | my god |
13:39.13 | Leeds | you can't buy geek machines at PC world unless you try really hard, and the only reason - the *only* reason - to visit PC World is instant gratification |
13:39.50 | sabinef72 | instant gratification ? what is it ? |
13:40.18 | Leeds | getting what you want immediately |
13:40.34 | Leeds | rather than, for example, ordering online and waiting a couple of days for something to arrive |
13:42.12 | sabinef72 | but it's heaven to spend a lot of money |
13:42.12 | Leeds | not at PC World it isn't |
13:42.13 | sabinef72 | lol |
13:42.13 | sabinef72 | it's PC World with a little * |
13:42.13 | sabinef72 | and * means : come and spend money ! |
13:42.22 | Leeds | it's expensive, but they have a half-decent range (particularly in stores - I don't think it's all of them - with the component centre) and long hours |
13:43.41 | Gunde | So is going to PCW some kind of therapy analogue to women buying shoes? |
13:44.29 | Leeds | nope |
13:45.18 | Gunde | (I wouldn't know, I do neither) |
13:46.20 | Gunde | Leeds: You have recovered from your non-date now? |
13:48.00 | Leeds | sure - it wasn't that bad :-) |
13:49.25 | morsing | Leeds! |
13:49.41 | Leeds | Hong Kong is a great place for shopping... lots and lots of big brands, lots of cheap markets, lots of dedicated computer shopping centers... |
13:50.53 | sabinef72 | Gunde: loooool |
13:51.14 | sabinef72 | Leeds: I agree |
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13:52.31 | morsing | Jasperw! |
13:52.36 | morsing | sabinef72! |
13:52.36 | Leeds | the impressive thing is being able to make cheapskates, brand-hunters *and* geeky blokes happy :-) |
14:01.06 | morsing | h |
14:02.29 | Gunde | morsing: another random thing to say? |
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15:04.05 | deep-blue | everyone dead in here? |
15:04.44 | antiphase | Not quite |
15:05.04 | deep-blue | lol fair dues |
15:05.20 | antiphase | How's Genpoo? |
15:05.24 | deep-blue | exactly that |
15:05.26 | deep-blue | poo |
15:05.30 | deep-blue | it crashed twice |
15:05.32 | deep-blue | I gave up >< |
15:05.41 | antiphase | Heh. It takes a bit of getting useful |
15:05.49 | deep-blue | aye |
15:05.49 | antiphase | used to, but either way |
15:05.57 | deep-blue | I was cheating tho, using the live cd with its nice gui installer |
15:06.25 | Leeds | blah |
15:06.33 | antiphase | I'd be inclined to use the minimal installer, but it's a prerequisite to have another computer with a web browser showing the HOWTO at the same time |
15:06.46 | deep-blue | lol that I have :p |
15:07.35 | deep-blue | now both ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 are locking up on install |
15:07.43 | deep-blue | fuckin POS thinkpad |
15:07.50 | antiphase | It sounds like you have hardware problems tbh |
15:08.10 | deep-blue | yea, im running a memtest loop, followed by yet another WD drive tester |
15:08.34 | deep-blue | then if that all passes, I have the most strenuous test for last.... |
15:08.36 | deep-blue | and install of xp |
15:08.53 | antiphase | I'd probably try noacpi or some of the other kernel options |
15:09.08 | deep-blue | tried that, as well as safe graphics |
15:09.26 | deep-blue | funny thing is, it handled a debian install, but I had issues configuring the lcd |
15:09.41 | deep-blue | finally found a dude on google who had an xf86config for a T21 |
15:09.54 | deep-blue | but it still wouldn't go higher than 800x600 |
15:10.04 | antiphase | What gfx chip has it got? |
15:10.10 | deep-blue | S3Savage 4 |
15:10.26 | deep-blue | ive tried "vesa" and "savage" as the 2 different drivers |
15:10.29 | deep-blue | same results with both |
15:11.09 | antiphase | gentoo-nofb :) |
15:11.16 | deep-blue | tried that too |
15:11.31 | antiphase | Chuck it away and pimp yourself to PC World |
15:11.43 | deep-blue | nah, (fl)ebay is cheaper |
15:11.54 | deep-blue | and I wont feel so....corrupted....violated etc |
15:11.57 | antiphase | r |
15:12.20 | deep-blue | I manage a small independent retail/repair shop |
15:12.59 | deep-blue | and dude, you saw the pic right, I have too many laptops as it is :p |
15:13.58 | deep-blue | pah only thing that HAS worked, was SLED, but that's downright slow |
15:14.21 | antiphase | You almost certainly need gentoo compiled with -funroll-all-loops |
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15:17.02 | deep-blue | fekkin POS pc >< |
15:17.29 | antiphase | Remind me not to patronise your repair shop ;) |
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15:53.51 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
15:55.10 | catalyst | /sbin/mzrt :) |
15:57.16 | mozrat | :-) |
17:08.31 | morsing | catalyst! |
17:20.22 | andrew___ | hi there |
17:24.05 | morsing | Hi |
17:24.23 | catalyst | aloha :) |
17:25.33 | catalyst | mmm, Naan bread |
17:27.01 | morsing | Yuck |
17:28.36 | catalyst | boo |
17:28.38 | catalyst | tasty! |
17:39.24 | morsing | How is it tasty?! |
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17:44.16 | morsing | deep-blue |
17:44.17 | morsing | ! |
17:44.23 | deep-blue | hey morsing |
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18:54.58 | morsing | Wings |
19:57.58 | morsing | Check it! |
20:01.01 | serris | hi morsing |
20:08.49 | morsing | serris! |
20:10.46 | sabinef72 | we changed again hour in France |
20:10.52 | sabinef72 | what time is it now in London ? |
20:11.39 | wethrin | 20:1 |
20:11.41 | wethrin | 1 |
20:11.50 | wethrin | Well, that's in Durham, anyway |
20:11.59 | sabinef72 | I don't understand |
20:12.09 | wethrin | It's currently 20:12 here |
20:12.38 | sabinef72 | well it's 21 : 12 |
20:13.04 | sabinef72 | <PROTECTED> |
20:13.11 | sabinef72 | I was 2 in this case |
20:13.22 | sabinef72 | did you change hour too in England ? |
20:13.26 | wethrin | We have 1 hour difference |
20:13.28 | wethrin | Yeah |
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20:14.12 | sabinef72 | wethrin: but we changed the hour this week end |
20:16.44 | morsing | wethrin! sabinef72! |
20:17.03 | morsing | sabinef72: wethrin is in Scotland. Different timezone |
20:17.29 | sabinef72 | how can I know that Durham is in Scotland wethrin !!!!!!!! |
20:17.37 | sabinef72 | morsing: so what time is it now in London ? |
20:17.42 | morsing | 23:11 |
20:18.32 | wethrin | sabinef72: Same here |
20:18.35 | wethrin | morsing: I'm not in Scotland! |
20:19.06 | sabinef72 | MORSING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
20:19.23 | sabinef72 | sorry wethrin |
20:19.29 | wethrin | heh |
20:19.43 | morsing | :D |
20:19.46 | sabinef72 | morsing loves to make me upset |
20:20.07 | morsing | Don't be upset :( |
20:20.29 | sabinef72 | I'll make me mad one day |
20:20.31 | sabinef72 | ahah |
20:20.42 | sabinef72 | wethrin: where is Durham ? |
20:20.57 | wethrin | sabinef72: Near Newcastle |
20:21.30 | morsing | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=durham,+england&ie=UTF8&z=7&ll=54.77995,-1.559629&spn=3.047616,11.074219&om=1 |
20:22.32 | sabinef72 | waouh it's far from London |
20:22.38 | wethrin | 3h by train |
20:23.04 | sabinef72 | ah not so long |
20:27.24 | sabinef72 | and you morsing ? are you far away from london ? |
20:35.58 | rhowe | morsing's in his own little world :P |
20:42.07 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
20:43.43 | morsing | sabinef72: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=HP19+8JE&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=9&ll=51.645294,-0.346069&spn=0.819772,2.768555&iwloc=addr |
20:47.19 | rhowe | morsing: Because I'm dying |
20:48.56 | wethrin | rhowe: LORDI! |
20:49.10 | rhowe | wethrin: Indeed! |
20:49.23 | wethrin | HARD! ROCK! HALLELUJAH! |
20:49.48 | morsing | Moo |
20:50.07 | wethrin | morsing: Why aren't you coming? |
20:50.15 | wethrin | Rather, why didn't you ask for a ticket? |
20:50.27 | wethrin | rhowe: Who's your mystery guest for the evening? |
20:51.06 | rhowe | wethrin: Jia and Matt |
20:51.10 | rhowe | wethrin: I have 3 tickets, right? |
20:51.34 | wethrin | Yes |
20:51.53 | wethrin | You*3, EvilDave, me, Javier Ojeros |
20:55.49 | rhowe | OK |
20:56.05 | wethrin | Hopefully Javier will be there! |
20:56.16 | rhowe | Then I'm bringing Jia and Matt ( http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/matt_floor.jpg ) |
20:58.34 | morsing | wethrin: Where?!? |
20:58.47 | wethrin | morsing: Tuesday! Kentish Town somewhere! |
20:59.00 | morsing | Hmm... Wasn't invited |
20:59.19 | wethrin | Yes you were! |
20:59.25 | wethrin | It was on the Social list! |
21:07.35 | morsing | Was it? |
21:13.05 | wethrin | Yes |
21:13.07 | wethrin | Back in August |
21:14.27 | morsing | Nice |
21:14.41 | wethrin | Yeah |
21:14.47 | morsing | Well done |
21:14.50 | morsing | sabinef72? |
21:14.58 | sabinef72 | yes ? |
21:15.01 | morsing | :) |
21:15.09 | trousers | Evenin' all |
21:15.14 | trousers | School tomorrow :( |
21:15.16 | sabinef72 | what ? |
21:15.23 | morsing | I just missed you. Didn't know where you'd gone... :) |
21:15.33 | sabinef72 | I was eating ! |
21:15.40 | morsing | :( |
21:15.55 | trousers | I've been palying around with LaTeX, and I like it :) |
21:16.13 | sabinef72 | missed me ? how is it possible ! |
21:16.16 | wethrin | LaTeX rocks |
21:16.35 | morsing | sabinef72? Why? |
21:16.41 | morsing | LaTeX is superb! |
21:16.43 | trousers | wethrin: Indeed, I've started doing my coursework etc. in it - I like the style + control it offers |
21:16.55 | trousers | And it looks professional |
21:16.59 | sabinef72 | morsing: why not ! |
21:17.05 | trousers | And handles formuale fantastically |
21:17.20 | wethrin | Yes. Soon you'll get frustrated when it doesn't lay things out quite how you want |
21:17.25 | wethrin | And then you're into the really fun stuff |
21:17.40 | trousers | wethrin: Is there any way to adjust the rather large left margin? |
21:18.02 | wethrin | \usepackage{a4wide} |
21:18.32 | trousers | Cheers! |
21:18.55 | trousers | wethrin: Is there any big repository of commands/Little O'Reilly lookup books? :P |
21:19.04 | wethrin | Get a copy of the LaTeX companion (2nd edition) |
21:19.10 | trousers | wethrin: Cheers |
21:19.15 | wethrin | No O'Reilly books |
21:19.17 | wethrin | :) |
21:19.25 | trousers | sabinef72: Oo err |
21:19.39 | wethrin | LaTeX Companion / Goosens, Mittelbach et al. |
21:19.41 | sabinef72 | trousers: what ? |
21:20.57 | trousers | wethrin: I've set up a little makefile to do stuff with it :P It runs text editor, then as soon as that quits it pdflatex's and displays the PDF :D |
21:21.14 | wethrin | Use emacs |
21:21.21 | trousers | wethrin: I use nano :( |
21:21.34 | wethrin | C-c C-f to compile, C-c C-v to fire up the dvi viewer |
21:21.43 | wethrin | Which you need to set in some option somwhere |
21:21.46 | trousers | wethrin: Oooh, *tests* |
21:22.06 | morsing | G'night all. |
21:22.09 | wethrin | nn morsing |
21:22.14 | trousers | I've never really used emacs for anything more than a simple text editor |
21:22.16 | trousers | morsing: G'night |
21:22.32 | trousers | morsing: Are you two in some kind of relationship? :S |
21:22.35 | sabinef72 | morsing: already ? |
21:22.49 | wethrin | trousers: emacs is rubbish for a simple text editor |
21:22.55 | morsing | sabinef72: Yup, no more summer time |
21:22.59 | sabinef72 | good night morsing |
21:23.03 | morsing | trousers: I don't think so?! |
21:23.06 | sabinef72 | it's onlyu 22 : 23 |
21:23.07 | morsing | :) |
21:23.16 | trousers | sabinef72: 21:23 |
21:23.22 | trousers | morsing: Okay :P |
21:23.37 | sabinef72 | ah yes 21 : 23 in England ! |
21:24.20 | trousers | AGH |
21:24.33 | trousers | wethrin: What do you do if emacs can't display any characters? |
21:25.03 | wethrin | trousers: I can't remember the magic to tell it to use xdvi |
21:25.07 | wethrin | trousers: Errr? |
21:26.01 | trousers | wethrin: What's the print screen command? :( |
21:26.06 | trousers | Well, program |
21:26.29 | trousers | Never mind, found it |
21:27.22 | wethrin | Err |
21:30.21 | trousers | wethrin: http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/879/emacsfc4.png |
21:30.45 | wethrin | oh dear |
21:30.51 | wethrin | Character set issues? |
21:31.02 | wethrin | Prod mule? (one of the menu options) |
21:31.04 | trousers | What character set does it use? |
21:31.16 | wethrin | No idea |
21:32.25 | trousers | wethrin: Where is prod mule? |
21:34.33 | trousers | You can ignore my IRC channels :P |
21:35.01 | trousers | It's a trivia room! |
21:37.19 | wethrin | No, prod MULE |
21:37.31 | wethrin | lemme find out |
21:38.16 | wethrin | Options->MULE |
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22:03.47 | secretlondon | morning *cough* |
22:05.02 | wethrin | evening, miss |
22:07.29 | secretlondon | i seem to have been up til 7am or so - I blame ubuntu |
22:07.53 | antiphase | pebkac |
22:09.32 | wethrin | oops |
22:09.39 | wethrin | Just woke up? |
22:09.41 | secretlondon | uhuh |
22:09.46 | wethrin | tut |
22:09.51 | wethrin | Damn students :-P |
22:09.54 | secretlondon | indeed |
22:09.59 | secretlondon | i lose massively |
22:11.33 | wethrin | yes. You miss tea |
22:12.01 | secretlondon | cool - someone is offering 5 sun sparc 20 workstations |
22:12.14 | wethrin | They're....okay |
22:12.17 | wethrin | Only 32-bit Sparc, though |
22:12.40 | wethrin | Not bad for NetBSD or OpenBSD, though |
22:12.42 | antiphase | Heavy doorstops |
22:12.51 | wethrin | You can make them up to quad CPU |
22:17.34 | secretlondon | so I couldn't stick say debian on them you reckon? |
22:20.25 | secretlondon | ooh cosy |
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22:22.29 | secretlondon | wb |
22:22.29 | wethrin | splitters! |
22:22.30 | secretlondon | indeed |
22:22.30 | secretlondon | we kept ibot and lard |
22:22.30 | wethrin | I got trousers ! |
22:22.30 | secretlondon | could i stick debian on them was my question before we split |
22:23.02 | trousers | Sorry, I wasn't watching :P |
22:23.15 | wethrin | secretlondon: Probably. If Debian/Sparc is still maintained |
22:23.16 | trousers | It's iffy for some software support :( |
22:23.18 | wethrin | (rather than Sparc64) |
22:23.28 | trousers | wethrin: How do I get Skype working on amd64? |
22:23.58 | wethrin | No idea. Never used Skype. |
22:24.22 | mozrat | Skype == evil |
22:24.45 | trousers | mozrat: Why? |
22:24.55 | secretlondon | i think i want one anyway - but do i want five! |
22:25.21 | trousers | secretlondon: I'll take one off you :P |
22:25.30 | mozrat | trousers: Because it is killing the chances of public VoIP networks - we already have good(ish) protocols for voice and Skype is cornering the consumer VoIP market |
22:25.31 | wethrin | secretlondon: Pass the unwanted ones on |
22:25.33 | mozrat | use SIP instead |
22:25.37 | mozrat | so we can all talk to you :-) |
22:25.44 | wethrin | secretlondon: You could take the processor out of one of them and put it into another |
22:25.48 | trousers | SIP? |
22:26.15 | mozrat | Session Initiated Protocol... check Sipgate.co.uk or install Ekiga and get a free account there |
22:26.37 | trousers | What is so much better about SIP then? |
22:26.43 | mozrat | Plus, Skype is non-free and Linux support os apparently woeful |
22:26.48 | mozrat | s/os/is/ |
22:27.00 | secretlondon | i've said i'll take - i'll split the booty later |
22:27.12 | wethrin | good plan |
22:27.13 | trousers | secretlondon: This is free, correct? :P |
22:27.16 | wethrin | They're quite solid boxes |
22:27.43 | secretlondon | trousers; yes |
22:27.48 | trousers | Wow! |
22:27.54 | secretlondon | i'll need to get a minicab to hackney to get |
22:28.02 | trousers | Less than three :P |
22:28.04 | wethrin | Train there, and cab back |
22:28.42 | secretlondon | they don't all work and come with random bits - so i dunno how many machines will get out of |
22:29.18 | trousers | secretlondon: I don't care, I just like free hardware to carress |
22:29.23 | trousers | s/carress/play with/ |
22:29.24 | secretlondon | mmm |
22:32.26 | secretlondon | he has 1 sun monitor too - i've said yes to all |
22:32.49 | secretlondon | can one ever have too much hardware? |
22:33.33 | wethrin | secretlondon: Yes. If it doesn't fit. |
22:33.47 | secretlondon | true - but I only have hardware in one room so far |
22:33.49 | rhowe | secretlondon: Yes, yes one can |
22:33.55 | wethrin | secretlondon: That's okay, then |
22:34.03 | wethrin | Oh, Sun Monitors are stupidly heavy |
22:34.12 | secretlondon | but i presume i'll need one |
22:34.15 | wethrin | But if you need a monitor cable, I can get you one (13W3) |
22:34.19 | wethrin | Nah. Serial consoles |
22:34.32 | wethrin | They're the way to go |
22:36.21 | wethrin | I may have a spare one at home if you want |
22:36.37 | secretlondon | i'll see if/when he replies |
22:39.11 | trousers | wethrin: What does a serial console look like? |
22:40.10 | hali | google for dec vt100 :) |
22:40.39 | hali | the vt520 is pretty common too |
22:43.20 | rhowe | We have a 320 I think |
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22:54.34 | wethrin_ | Blah |
22:54.39 | wethrin_ | uk6x-- |
22:56.10 | sabinef72 | good night all |
22:57.09 | secretlondon | night sabinef72 |
22:57.16 | wethrin_ | trousers: Did oyu get my answer about a serial console? |
23:07.33 | secretlondon | debian for sparcs does support the sparcstation 20s - but i'd need to compile the kernel (eek!) to get smp |
23:10.02 | wethrin | That's easy to do |
23:10.26 | wethrin | NetBSD will do it out of the box |
23:10.35 | secretlondon | i've never played with a *bsd |
23:10.55 | secretlondon | but it's all good stuff to learn |
23:16.07 | wethrin | Indeed |
23:16.38 | wethrin | Open will work really well. Although probably not in SMP mode |
23:19.22 | secretlondon | i may use it as a firewall - in that case openbsd seems to be the best at being a hard security bastard |
23:27.27 | wethrin | You'll need a second network card in it |
23:27.41 | wethrin | Specifically an sbus card |
23:29.13 | secretlondon | right. |
23:30.26 | wethrin | Which I don't currently have spare. There may be some in your pile of Suns. But there always is an on-board card |
23:30.50 | secretlondon | i'l see what on earth it is i get - and then see what can be made from them all |
23:31.18 | wethrin | good plan |
23:31.47 | wethrin | nothing wrong with that |
23:33.22 | wethrin | free hardware is good |
23:34.55 | mozrat | can someone please proofread http://gllug.org.uk//uploads/Meetings/11thNov06/11_November_student_flyer.pdf |
23:35.16 | mozrat | I would like to make one meeting announcement this year without a typo or important detail missing :-) |
23:36.03 | wethrin | looking |
23:36.21 | mozrat | secretlondon: are you a student? |
23:36.29 | mozrat | trousers: ping |
23:37.40 | wethrin | mozrat: Give a postcode for w'min |
23:38.48 | mozrat | wethrin: yarr |
23:39.20 | wethrin | No noticable spelling or grammar problems |
23:39.37 | mozrat | ta |
23:39.45 | secretlondon | mozrat: I'm an fe student |
23:40.05 | secretlondon | mozrat: adult education -lewisham college |
23:41.46 | secretlondon | we have no noticable students union but we do have notice boards - I could add a few flyers but i don't know how long they'll last |
23:41.53 | mozrat | secretlondon: could you pimp the meeting? |
23:42.02 | mozrat | Doesn't matter if they don't last really |
23:42.04 | secretlondon | mozrat: i can try! |
23:42.27 | mozrat | I need to build a network of university IT dudes and dudesses |
23:42.34 | mozrat | secretlondon: ta! |
23:43.58 | wethrin | mozrat: See if the Pearson Society still exists at UCL |
23:44.26 | mozrat | wethrin: the whatnow? |
23:45.02 | wethrin | That used to be the name of their computer science society |
23:45.02 | secretlondon | pearson building is/was comp sci at ucl |
23:45.16 | wethrin | I have no contacts there, though |
23:45.17 | mozrat | cool |
23:45.23 | wethrin | rar. I went there a few years ago |
23:45.29 | wethrin | The'yve moved to a new building |
23:45.54 | secretlondon | yeah - that whole area round the tube station has been redevloped i think |
23:46.12 | wethrin | Yeah |
23:46.20 | wethrin | The new hospital being the main one |
23:46.27 | wethrin | Have they finished the tube station yet? |
23:46.28 | secretlondon | the ex MI5 building is now medical, UCLH casulty has moved etc |
23:46.36 | secretlondon | don't think so |
23:49.02 | wethrin | hum |
23:55.30 | wethrin | sigh. Fileserver-- |