| 00:00.00 | mozrat | *raises.eyebrow* |
| 00:00.55 | catalyst | O.o |
| 00:01.25 | catalyst | Wham? |
| 00:01.57 | mozrat | the happy hammers, yeah |
| 00:02.37 | Leeds | morning all! |
| 00:03.03 | Gunde | Good morning, Leeds! |
| 00:04.16 | mozrat | hey Leeds! |
| 00:05.39 | secretlondon | this is the best i can find - http://www.reddragdiva.co.uk/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=6 |
| 00:05.46 | secretlondon | took me ages.. |
| 00:06.02 | mozrat | No image to display |
| 00:06.08 | Leeds | sabinef72: hey, thanks! |
| 00:06.11 | deep-blue | you are a word stating "no image" |
| 00:06.12 | mozrat | that is a search URL |
| 00:06.13 | deep-blue | >< |
| 00:06.43 | secretlondon | hmm |
| 00:07.05 | secretlondon | http://reddragdiva.co.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-854 |
| 00:07.56 | mozrat | there she is! |
| 00:08.15 | secretlondon | woman with beer |
| 00:08.15 | mozrat | are you that blurry or was the camera drunk? |
| 00:08.25 | secretlondon | camera drunk - low light |
| 00:08.34 | catalyst | # Everything's so blurry # |
| 00:08.58 | catalyst | I can't remember any of the rest of the song :( |
| 00:09.03 | Leeds | sabinef72: sleep well |
| 00:09.11 | mozrat | http://fsfe.org/en/fellows/sm/resources/picture_of_simon_morris << me |
| 00:09.24 | Leeds | now, if only more women came supplied with beer... |
| 00:09.44 | catalyst | heh |
| 00:10.21 | xotl | is that richard george in the corner? |
| 00:10.51 | secretlondon | mozrat: you have a linux coder beard |
| 00:11.39 | catalyst | ooh, nice getup |
| 00:11.45 | mozrat | secretlondon: not any more :( |
| 00:13.53 | Gunde | Time for bed. Goodnight, bonne nuit, gute Nacht, godnat, spokoinoi nochi! |
| 00:14.07 | serris | g'night |
| 00:14.15 | catalyst | oyasumi nasai |
| 00:23.18 | catalyst | I wanted to take a pic of myself with my "Prefectionist" t-shirt on but ze camera no workie |
| 00:24.43 | mozrat | heh |
| 00:58.04 | mozrat | I do believe my work is done! |
| 00:58.07 | mozrat | Goodnight all |
| 01:01.45 | Leeds | night |
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| 06:46.29 | trousers_ | Morning |
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| 07:30.59 | morsing | 'morning |
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| 08:19.46 | mozrat | Morning |
| 08:19.53 | mozrat | wassup dude? |
| 08:23.27 | Cope | morning |
| 08:23.42 | mozrat | hey Cope |
| 08:25.24 | morsing | What's up Cope? |
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| 08:27.25 | mozrat | hey LeedsTreo |
| 08:27.31 | LeedsTreo | So... I just got on a ferry... before I got on, I went to get some lunch... came away from the nearest supermarket with some sushi (salmon and cucumber rolls) and a fresh Belgian-style waffle... |
| 08:27.41 | mozrat | Nice |
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| 08:28.04 | morsing | SlayerXP? |
| 08:28.08 | LeedsTreo | then went to investigate the little shops on the pier, found one specialising in West Country cider and pies :-) |
| 08:28.15 | SlayerXP | morsing: yes? |
| 08:28.39 | mozrat | Morning SlayerXP |
| 08:29.24 | LeedsTreo | also, with a selection of Indian bits, Walkers crisps, etc... |
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| 08:51.16 | Blapto | rhowe lies! |
| 09:26.02 | wethrin | Lies? |
| 09:26.13 | wethrin | Hello! |
| 09:27.18 | mozrat | wethrin: so Lordi was good? |
| 09:27.30 | wethrin | mozrat: Yes! |
| 09:28.17 | wethrin | What was your excuse for not coming? |
| 09:35.33 | serris | Hi mozrat |
| 09:36.10 | mozrat | wethrin: Finished my job last night.. plus I have kids.. Halloween is special for them |
| 09:36.22 | mozrat | BUT - I am going to see Maiden next month |
| 09:36.27 | mozrat | \m/ |
| 09:36.33 | sabinef72 | hello !!!!!!! |
| 09:36.51 | sabinef72 | mozrat ! |
| 09:37.10 | mozrat | hey sabinef72 |
| 09:37.40 | sabinef72 | bank holiday today in France.... and the sun is shinning... Isn't it a perfect day ? |
| 09:39.03 | murb | no |
| 09:39.14 | murb | it is also a bank holiday in bayern. |
| 09:39.20 | murb | so ic an't have any food. |
| 09:39.57 | sabinef72 | murb: your fridge is empty ? |
| 09:39.59 | wethrin | mozrat: Finished? |
| 09:40.25 | mozrat | wethrin: Yep - started new job today (sme building, same parent company) |
| 09:40.33 | mozrat | different email :-) |
| 09:41.31 | wethrin | yay! |
| 09:41.39 | wethrin | Pay rise too? |
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| 09:47.53 | LeedsTreo | sabinef72: ping? |
| 09:48.08 | sabinef72 | LeedsTreo: yes ? |
| 09:48.20 | LeedsTreo | did you go to Lamma? |
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| 09:48.30 | sabinef72 | where is Lamma ? |
| 09:48.36 | LeedsTreo | evening CopeUK |
| 09:48.52 | LeedsTreo | sabinef72: I guess that's a no :-) |
| 09:49.10 | sabinef72 | LeedsTreo: no I never went in Lamma, but I would like to know where is it |
| 09:49.46 | LeedsTreo | it's one of the islands off Hong Kong - to the south |
| 09:50.34 | LeedsTreo | known for having a nice walk between the two main villages, a nice beach with a power station overlooking it, and hippies... |
| 09:50.49 | wethrin | Cope! |
| 09:51.26 | CopeUK | hello wethrin |
| 09:51.46 | Blapto | morning |
| 09:52.16 | CopeUK | are you there, morsing? |
| 09:52.18 | LeedsTreo | sabinef72: did you go to any of the islands? |
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| 09:52.45 | LeedsTreo | evening Gunde |
| 09:52.58 | Gunde | good morning |
| 09:53.26 | sabinef72 | LeedsTreo: except Hong Kong, I did no island in China |
| 09:53.38 | LeedsTreo | ah, good... |
| 09:53.58 | sabinef72 | will you take pictures for me and show me when you will be back ? |
| 09:55.09 | LeedsTreo | no... because I've only got my phone with me, not a decent camera... I think I have photos somewhere from another visit... was thinking more of sending you a postcard :-) it is a holiday island, after all... |
| 09:57.36 | sabinef72 | POSTCARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 09:57.43 | sabinef72 | it's like a dream ..... |
| 09:57.50 | Blapto | anybody here got exim4 working on debian? |
| 09:58.01 | SlayerXP | Blapto: yes |
| 09:58.25 | LeedsTreo | wow, I've just come outside and the sky is amazing... blue fading away, bright salmon pink clouds |
| 09:59.00 | LeedsTreo | let me try to take a photo... |
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| 10:00.13 | CopeUK | Blapto: was that random gathering of statistics? Or did you have a specific question? |
| 10:00.29 | LeedsTreo | someone want to volunteer an email address I can send the photo to to put onlone somewhere? |
| 10:00.36 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: rhowe@siksai.co.uk |
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| 10:02.15 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/hk-sky.jpg |
| 10:02.30 | LeedsTreo | sometimes this single-tasking gets annoying... check you mail, rhowe |
| 10:02.47 | LeedsTreo | wow, quick :-) how does it look? the pink is already 99% gone from the sky |
| 10:03.21 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: Hm.. looks more orangey - either it didn't pick it up very well, or the colours were fading, but you can tell the sky was pretty colourful |
| 10:03.31 | LeedsTreo | is there any green visible from the hillside? |
| 10:03.39 | rhowe | Nah, too dark |
| 10:04.00 | LeedsTreo | thought so - I was a bit too slow... |
| 10:04.18 | rhowe | Sunsets are hard to photograph unless you're sitting there waiting |
| 10:04.25 | rhowe | They change really quickly |
| 10:04.40 | LeedsTreo | next time I come here I'll bring a real camera & tripod |
| 10:05.00 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: Oh, heh. I got into trouble with my tripod at the weekend |
| 10:05.01 | sabinef72 | thank you LeedsTreo and rhowe for the picture |
| 10:05.01 | LeedsTreo | rather than a cheese & onion pastie and sushi :-) |
| 10:05.25 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: Went to the Tate Modern to go on the slides - was taking pictures of the slides and they said "sorry, no tripods - you might sell the pictures" |
| 10:05.28 | LeedsTreo | now, I should go find a postcard... |
| 10:05.32 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: So I got ushered out |
| 10:05.42 | sabinef72 | LeedsTreo: don't forget to post it !!!!!!!! |
| 10:05.55 | LeedsTreo | nasty people |
| 10:06.03 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: Later on in the evening, I was on the south bank taking some pictures across the river to the City and a council binman said "Excuse me, are you taking professional photos?" |
| 10:06.08 | LeedsTreo | sabinef72: my plan is to post it *before* leaving the island |
| 10:06.20 | sabinef72 | yeahhhhhhhh |
| 10:06.27 | sabinef72 | go go go LeedsTreo |
| 10:06.28 | rhowe | Implying that I was only allowed to take amateur photos. I laughed at him, which wasn't perhaps the most sensible thing to do, but it worked :) |
| 10:07.03 | LeedsTreo | rhowe: because he thought your pictures belonged in his bin? everyone's a critic... |
| 10:07.36 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: I think he was going to tell me that I wasn't allowed to take professional photos and that I'd have to apply for a licence or some crap |
| 10:07.49 | rhowe | LeedsTreo: All because I had my compact camera on a tripod instead of resting it on the hand rail |
| 10:08.06 | LeedsTreo | must get some phone->web thing setup... |
| 10:08.40 | LeedsTreo | is it a serious-sized tripod? mine is only tiny anyway, but better than hands |
| 10:09.21 | LeedsTreo | anyway, gone |
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| 10:34.57 | Blapto | SlayerXP, so do I :D |
| 10:35.19 | SlayerXP | Blapto: good |
| 10:35.56 | LeedsTreo | rhowe: did the second one come through? |
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| 10:39.08 | LeedsTreo | anyone? |
| 10:39.42 | morsing | Cope! |
| 10:40.03 | LeedsTreo | morsing: why are you ignoring me? |
| 10:40.40 | LeedsTreo | bah... |
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| 10:50.23 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/hk-harbour.jpg |
| 10:51.03 | rhowe | Not especially clear |
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| 11:19.30 | morsing | eye69! |
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| 12:13.20 | Leeds | yeah, see, that's the problem with the camera on the Treo - it's not not very good |
| 12:16.18 | serris | I'm currently on the look out for fisheye lenses for my wife's digital SLR |
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| 12:16.48 | zOOz | hello |
| 12:16.56 | serris | hi |
| 12:18.45 | zOOz | what's on? |
| 12:18.54 | serris | Nothing really |
| 12:19.36 | zOOz | I'm waiting for Telewest broadband |
| 12:30.54 | Leeds | and... UCL is now showing a *really* direct hit for this typhoon |
| 12:31.32 | Leeds | everyone else is still showing a miss... I wonder why UCL hates Hong Kong |
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| 13:14.21 | CopeUK | morsing! |
| 13:18.53 | morsing | CopeUK! |
| 13:19.19 | CopeUK | top top email :) |
| 13:19.45 | morsing | CopeUK: Really? |
| 13:22.11 | serris | hi morsing, feeling any better? |
| 13:22.34 | morsing | serris: Yeah, :) |
| 13:22.39 | serris | Glad to hear : ) |
| 13:22.45 | serris | Had a sucky morning? |
| 13:23.18 | serris | I find that how my manager interacts with me the first 3 minutes at the beginning of my shift determines the next 10 hours |
| 13:23.18 | CopeUK | morsing: yes :) really! :) |
| 13:23.55 | CopeUK | morsing: lspv / lsvg seems to show about 20G free on rootvg? Am I correct? |
| 13:24.33 | CopeUK | morsing: philip? |
| 13:24.49 | morsing | CopeUK: It shows 40GB free but that's un-mirrored |
| 13:25.21 | CopeUK | FREE PPs: 160 (20480 megabytes) |
| 13:25.47 | serris | hehe I got a new manager around then too |
| 13:25.59 | serris | But now I have 2. One I like, the other I am hating more and more |
| 13:26.27 | serris | My supervisor keeps encouraging me to make formal complaints against that one manager since the supervisor dislikes him too |
| 13:26.33 | morsing | CopeUK: Which system are you on?!? |
| 13:26.33 | morsing | dre10dbp01:/> lsvg rootvg | grep "FREE PP" |
| 13:26.34 | morsing | MAX LVs: 256 FREE PPs: 320 (40960 megabytes) |
| 13:26.52 | CopeUK | ah; I was using lspv on hdisk0 |
| 13:26.53 | morsing | Ahh... You're looking at lspv |
| 13:26.56 | morsing | 'k |
| 13:26.56 | CopeUK | yeajh |
| 13:27.13 | morsing | Just be awaare that AIX doesn't mirror disks... |
| 13:28.53 | CopeUK | not sure I follow? |
| 13:30.36 | morsing | In AIX the disks are not mirrored, LVs are |
| 13:31.24 | morsing | So, the space available depends on if the LV you create/extend is mirrored or not |
| 13:32.06 | morsing | You can have three disks in a mirrored setup as an example... |
| 13:32.48 | CopeUK | do you mean like solaris, the OS doesn't mirror, but the software does? eg sds/svm |
| 13:33.32 | keithlard_ | aah, CopeUK. i've been expecting you. |
| 13:33.37 | CopeUK | hello keithlard |
| 13:33.45 | eyore | shite, just typed "dropdb postgres" instead of "dropdb videos" argh. |
| 13:34.27 | morsing | No, not really. I mean, you can have a VG with three disks where hd2, hd4, hd6 and hd9var are mirrored but hd5, hd10opt and hd3 are not |
| 13:34.43 | morsing | So it's not the disk, sector for sector, that's mirrored |
| 13:35.52 | eyore | oh i'm such a dumb arse |
| 13:36.00 | morsing | eyore: Cawfy? |
| 13:36.25 | eyore | if all the things i didn't want to do right now was corrupt my database installation |
| 13:36.30 | eyore | if = of |
| 13:36.36 | keithlard_ | restore from backup! |
| 13:37.17 | eyore | problem is i didn't corrupt the database i corrupted the database program itself |
| 13:37.32 | eyore | meaning i either need to work out how to fix it or how to reinstall the whole app |
| 13:37.44 | eyore | and yum remove, yum install doesn't do it |
| 13:39.27 | keithlard_ | ah so now you can't load a dump file? |
| 13:41.03 | keithlard_ | probably reinstall, then restore the dump |
| 13:47.12 | goibhniu | eyore: you corrupted the rpm database? |
| 13:48.06 | eyore | no, but uninstalling an reinstalling doesn't fix the corrupted postgresql install |
| 13:48.20 | eyore | it's okay though some guys on #postgresql fixed it for me |
| 13:48.29 | goibhniu | phew |
| 13:50.27 | keithlard_ | what was the solution? |
| 13:50.44 | eyore | createdb postgres |
| 13:50.45 | eyore | lol |
| 13:51.08 | keithlard_ | :) |
| 13:54.25 | Leeds | time to go for a late gym session... |
| 14:01.30 | goibhniu | http://static.flickr.com/96/281193199_519775b141.jpg?v=0 |
| 14:18.36 | sabinef72 | someone free during 10 minutes to correct my translation please ? |
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| 14:24.24 | murb | how much do you pay? |
| 14:26.12 | sabinef72 | murb: well... a kiss is it enough ? |
| 14:28.19 | morsing | ping Cope |
| 14:29.38 | murb | sabinef72: how much does it sell for on ebay? |
| 14:30.18 | sabinef72 | well I have to go now |
| 14:30.20 | sabinef72 | bye |
| 14:45.23 | morsing | ping Cope |
| 14:57.48 | Leeds | rockbox+bluetoth++ |
| 15:35.14 | serris | Hm.. anyone want a bunch of Hungarian PLAYBOYs? |
| 15:36.28 | Leeds | uh... |
| 15:36.50 | serris | I'm decluttering the house and I no longer need them as HDD stands |
| 15:37.00 | serris | So they're probably going to the bin if no one wants 'em |
| 15:37.21 | Gunde | serris: Then at least the excuse "I bought them just because of the interesting reports" won't work any more for the majority of people here. |
| 15:37.44 | serris | I have 2 german ones |
| 15:37.52 | serris | 1 English one from 1998 |
| 15:38.02 | Leeds | Gunde: see - German ones, just for you! |
| 15:38.10 | serris | lol |
| 15:38.38 | serris | They're crap. They photoshopped a few odds and bits out cause In the August edition of the Hungarian one, the same pictures appeared with a little more |
| 15:41.55 | Cope | morsing: yes? |
| 15:44.28 | Gunde | serris: I don't want them because of the reports. (-; |
| 15:44.41 | murb | Gunde: course you do! |
| 15:45.05 | murb | why would high quailty journalist put you off? |
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| 15:59.53 | Cope | e=MC² |
| 16:00.09 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:00.35 | Cope | å |
| 16:00.35 | wethrin | ø¡ |
| 16:03.43 | wethrin | ~change 459.78 USD to GBP |
| 16:03.58 | wethrin | ~change 500 USD to GBP |
| 16:04.01 | wethrin | + |
| 16:08.26 | rhowe | Cope said “e=MC²†|
| 16:08.44 | rhowe | although I'm sure M and C should be lowercase |
| 16:10.03 | Leeds | nice screensaver... towers of hanoi :-) |
| 16:16.02 | morsing | Cope: Is Paul not in? |
| 16:17.53 | rhowe | http://www.aria.co.uk/productinfocomm.asp?ID=24938 |
| 16:20.11 | murb | the scissors look rather flimsy |
| 16:20.30 | rhowe | I thought the mirror was a nice touch |
| 16:24.18 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
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| 16:33.09 | wethrin | morsing! |
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| 16:37.30 | wethrin | hi secretlondon |
| 16:37.38 | secretlondon | hi wethrin |
| 16:37.45 | wethrin | want an Ultra1? |
| 16:37.53 | secretlondon | I have my new (to me) computers! |
| 16:37.58 | wethrin | w00t! |
| 16:38.40 | SlayerXP | secretlondon: so your new doorstops arrived okay, then? |
| 16:38.41 | secretlondon | 5 pizza boxes (2 heavier than the other 3), a stupidly heavy 17" monitor and the customary box of bits! |
| 16:38.52 | wethrin | Are they all SS20s? |
| 16:38.56 | secretlondon | yes |
| 16:39.25 | wethrin | memory's swappable between SS20s, SS10s and Ultra 1s |
| 16:39.47 | wethrin | They can support up to 4 CPUs, using two dual-CPU mbus cards |
| 16:40.13 | secretlondon | so I read - I've not opened them up to see if they have dual or single mbus cpu cards |
| 16:40.27 | SlayerXP | i guess that. fully specced, that box might just keep up with your average dell cheap desktop |
| 16:40.28 | wethrin | you can really freak people out by having 3 CPUs :) |
| 16:41.03 | secretlondon | 3 of them have a sticker on saying 75Hz, 4G and 64 MB TRAM - however there is no guarantee thats what they actaully are |
| 16:41.24 | secretlondon | s/RAM/TRAM |
| 16:41.27 | secretlondon | s/RAM/TRAM/ |
| 16:41.32 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:41.33 | secretlondon | waa |
| 16:41.42 | wethrin | ITYM 75MHz |
| 16:41.45 | secretlondon | yeah they come with their own trams ;) |
| 16:41.51 | secretlondon | indeed |
| 16:42.18 | secretlondon | I have no idea what they put in sun monitors - they weigh a tonne! |
| 16:42.24 | wethrin | Lots of lead! |
| 16:42.40 | wethrin | Do you have a monitor lead for it? |
| 16:42.45 | secretlondon | it came with one |
| 16:42.46 | Leeds | I had a 21inch Sun monitor in my second-floor place... |
| 16:42.55 | wethrin | Good good |
| 16:42.59 | Leeds | nearly killed myself carrying it up, got a hand carrying it down again |
| 16:43.12 | wethrin | Leeds: Getting an E4k up a flight of stairs is a challenge |
| 16:43.20 | wethrin | Just about doable if you take all the boards out |
| 16:44.26 | secretlondon | i think they all have expansion graphics cards as well as the built in one, and many have an extra network card |
| 16:44.35 | SlayerXP | i fail to understand this obsession with old, crap, hardware |
| 16:44.36 | secretlondon | but I need to have a proper look |
| 16:45.02 | wethrin | They'd make a nice firewall machine |
| 16:45.08 | wethrin | SlayerXP: Interest, mostly |
| 16:45.14 | SlayerXP | nothing with a hard disk makes a nice firewall machine |
| 16:45.29 | SlayerXP | firewalls should have no moving parts, except perhaps a cooling fan |
| 16:45.33 | Leeds | in a majority of cases it's about the money |
| 16:45.46 | Leeds | s/majority/minority/ |
| 16:45.50 | Leeds | and I should go to bed :-) |
| 16:46.32 | rhowe | Speaking of firewalls, iTron pointed out that OBSD 4.0's out today |
| 16:46.48 | secretlondon | it's mainly for fun |
| 16:47.10 | Leeds | secretlondon: to be fair, there are much more fun things to do with your time |
| 16:47.45 | secretlondon | Leeds: a) it depends how sad you are b)Not in London on very little money |
| 16:48.24 | secretlondon | I'm going to try and get pics of all the expansion buses as wikipedia needs pics |
| 16:48.38 | Leeds | secretlondon: one of the many reasons why I'm happy to not be living in London any more :-) |
| 16:48.49 | secretlondon | Leeds: I'd rather be in Hong Kong too ;) |
| 16:49.16 | Leeds | so, come... we'll go to the pub |
| 16:50.07 | secretlondon | If I ever manage to get to HK I'll look you uop |
| 16:50.42 | Leeds | this afternoon, I got a ferry to Lamma, hung out and watched the sunset, had a coffee, got the ferry back... $11 for each ferry and $25 for the coffee - not exactly an expensive afternoon out |
| 16:51.20 | Leeds | ibot change 11 hkd to gbp |
| 16:51.45 | secretlondon | nice |
| 16:52.25 | Leeds | if I was in the mood - and hadn't done it already a few times - I could have done the 90-120 minute Lamma walk, stopped at a couple of beaches on the way, etc. for no more cash |
| 16:53.14 | Gunde | Leeds: On what money do you live currently? Savings or some kind of support? |
| 16:53.29 | Leeds | oh, and I should add a total of $5.60 or so for the tram to the ferry and the bus home afterward |
| 16:53.40 | Leeds | Gunde: uh, savings - more precisely, the money I made last year and didn't spend |
| 16:55.03 | Leeds | so short-term savings rather than long-term |
| 16:55.18 | goibhniu | Leeds: any luck with the job hunting? |
| 16:55.50 | goibhniu | you've mainly a python dev, no? |
| 16:56.10 | Leeds | no luck, because I've been totally crap, unfocussed, etc. and not really done anything about trying |
| 16:56.31 | Leeds | I've been doing python dev recently, but I did a lot of C before, and some serious shell |
| 16:56.47 | goibhniu | it's such a shame teleworking still hasn't taken off |
| 16:57.17 | Leeds | there are legal issues doing that internationally |
| 16:57.22 | goibhniu | London wages for HK living would be great |
| 16:58.12 | Leeds | that's pretty much what I had last year |
| 16:59.13 | goibhniu | not wearing your trousers at work being the other obvious advantage |
| 17:00.07 | Leeds | I actually think the way we did things at Sun was quite good - you could, at your choice and your manager's discretion, work at home, as long as you were reasonable, came in for regular meetings, etc. |
| 17:00.57 | goibhniu | I spend 4 hours a day commuting so that I can say good morning and good evening ... and a bit of chit chat in between |
| 17:01.57 | Leeds | yeah, that's crap - I had 20 minutes or so each way |
| 17:03.19 | goibhniu | ever tried "codelancing" or whatever it is where you bid on projects? |
| 17:03.56 | goibhniu | I guess the competition is tough, but I like the idea |
| 17:04.24 | Leeds | I'm somewhat paranoid about the work visa thing - I'd prefer something permanent/full-time |
| 17:05.09 | Leeds | people keep asking me why I don't just freelance - make enough to live on, etc. - but again, I'm worried about the legalities... |
| 17:05.16 | Leeds | would be much easier in the EU or Israel |
| 17:07.42 | Leeds | due to lack of need of work visa, obviously |
| 17:07.50 | goibhniu | you just need to marry into the HK police force I guess |
| 17:08.31 | Leeds | why police? |
| 17:08.39 | goibhniu | you don't speak Chinese do you? |
| 17:08.59 | murb | Leeds: find a nic echinese girl. |
| 17:09.04 | Leeds | nope - a couple of random words/phrases I've picked up around the place... I read more than I speak |
| 17:09.45 | murb | Leeds: if you free lanced, could you set up a ltd and employ yourself? |
| 17:09.52 | Leeds | murb: also an option... or, as it happens, given the current legal situation, a non-chinese girl with a work visa :-) |
| 17:10.10 | Leeds | I could setup a company, but I really really don't want to deal with the hassle - I'm quite happy as an employee for now |
| 17:10.54 | murb | what sort of freelance work is avalible? |
| 17:11.22 | Leeds | dunno, really... more php/mysql stuff than real coding, I think |
| 17:13.06 | Leeds | got an email forwarded on to me today asking for "two or three GOOD JAVA/AJAX/PHP/MySQL developers who could work on a pretty impressive project for three months" |
| 17:16.25 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/leeds+co.jpg |
| 17:17.08 | Leeds | 403 |
| 17:17.24 | rhowe | heh, whenever I try and do anything involving network filesystems with Nautilus, be it SMB, SFTP, etc, it crawls and crashes |
| 17:17.53 | rhowe | reload |
| 17:18.34 | Leeds | oh, lovely :-) |
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| 17:25.06 | Leeds | okay, two great headlines: " Donald Trump cited for 80-foot flag pole" and " Duct tape no substitute for a babysitter, police say" |
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| 17:45.39 | secretlondon | hi cat |
| 17:45.47 | catalyst | heyo :) |
| 17:46.09 | catalyst | how goes? |
| 17:47.00 | catalyst | ooh! food time |
| 17:47.04 | catalyst | back shortly |
| 17:47.17 | catalyst | bots? :) |
| 17:47.23 | secretlondon | box |
| 17:47.37 | secretlondon | interesting typo |
| 17:48.01 | secretlondon | got my 5 suns today - came with |
| 17:57.21 | wethrin | secretlondon: So, would you like an Ultra 1? |
| 17:57.28 | wethrin | I can deliver some time in December |
| 17:57.52 | secretlondon | wethrin: possibly - I'm going to see how these go. i may be sick of them by then |
| 17:58.00 | wethrin | It's a 64-bit Sparc.... |
| 17:58.15 | secretlondon | ooh okay then |
| 17:58.25 | wethrin | heh |
| 18:01.31 | wethrin | If I'm feeling particularly enthused, I could even power it up to check it works |
| 18:02.52 | secretlondon | might save transporting it if it didn't |
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| 18:03.31 | wethrin | secretlondon: Indeed. But you could still salvage bits |
| 18:04.05 | secretlondon | wethrin: true |
| 18:04.14 | wethrin | You might end up being dragged out for beer, mind |
| 18:04.36 | wethrin | nice |
| 18:04.47 | catalyst | hi again! bye again! XD |
| 18:06.07 | wethrin | Try to see if it works |
| 18:06.18 | wethrin | You should be able to match different speed CPUs |
| 18:06.39 | wethrin | Hometime! |
| 18:06.54 | secretlondon | it looks like it has a 75 and an 85 on it. |
| 18:07.49 | Cope | :) |
| 18:08.16 | Cope | secretlondon: what machines do you have? |
| 18:08.37 | secretlondon | I've just been given 5 sparcstation 20s |
| 18:08.51 | Cope | ah 20s? |
| 18:09.05 | Cope | they're fun |
| 18:09.23 | secretlondon | i hope so - not looked at any of them yet - not had suns before |
| 18:09.31 | Cope | are you going to stick with solaris on them? |
| 18:10.04 | secretlondon | they'll need something putting on them - i might try debian for sparcs |
| 18:10.18 | Cope | if you want to use linux, debian is ok, but not really stable on 32 bit sparc |
| 18:10.30 | secretlondon | what would you suggest? |
| 18:10.32 | Cope | not the fault of debian - just the way it is - same for gentoo |
| 18:10.39 | Cope | I would use solaris or netbsd |
| 18:10.49 | Cope | netbsd on sparcstations flies |
| 18:10.54 | secretlondon | ok thanks - someone else suggested netbsd |
| 18:11.10 | Cope | do have at least 2 solaris machines though |
| 18:11.19 | Cope | sol 9 will run fine on them |
| 18:11.39 | secretlondon | ok |
| 18:11.43 | Cope | bit slow, and forget running a bitmapped display - that's painful |
| 18:11.55 | Cope | sol 8 would be fine too, and would be good for experimenting |
| 18:12.00 | Cope | but netbsd rocks |
| 18:12.12 | secretlondon | thanks - i'll download it |
| 18:12.55 | secretlondon | still to work out how to install on them anyway. don't think i have any cd or floppy drives - but not inspected thoroughly |
| 18:13.19 | Cope | do you have any networked machines on the same vlan? |
| 18:13.30 | Cope | s/vlan/subnet/ |
| 18:13.49 | secretlondon | i can network however it best suits - I just have the one desktop on currently |
| 18:14.45 | secretlondon | but I need to get a hub or switch anyway as I'm currently just using cross over cable when needed |
| 18:17.33 | Cope | right |
| 18:17.43 | Cope | well if you do, a diskless install is do-able |
| 18:17.50 | Cope | with tftp and nfs |
| 18:20.34 | secretlondon | thanks |
| 18:23.10 | Gunde | Has anybody of you ever heard of http://www.antispamproject.info/ ? |
| 18:26.05 | secretlondon | no |
| 18:26.34 | Cope | no |
| 18:28.08 | Gunde | According to their page they want to help webmasters to secure their guestbooks against spam. They draw attention to themselves by spamming guestbooks. |
| 18:28.29 | Gunde | I only saw it, because I get a mail everybody generates an error in my guestbook. |
| 18:28.49 | psnl | a novel approach to pushing a antispam solution |
| 18:28.52 | Gunde | Not a nice method, but maybe ok, so I thought. |
| 18:28.54 | Gunde | But! |
| 18:29.45 | Gunde | Today another spam attempt, from a different IP. But the data used for submitting the form still had the encrypted IP from that antispam site in it. |
| 18:30.10 | Gunde | So somehow I doubt they really have the right motives to run their site. |
| 18:30.40 | secretlondon | almost blackmail? |
| 18:31.05 | Gunde | blackmailing means putting pressure on somebody, right? |
| 18:31.08 | secretlondon | yes |
| 18:31.31 | secretlondon | they will spam your guestbook until you buy their software |
| 18:31.35 | Gunde | No, they dont want you to buy a product or so, they dont offer anything they could get richt with |
| 18:32.44 | Gunde | Among other things they link to a commercial product, but they also link to descriptions about how captchas work. |
| 18:35.24 | Gunde | So I don't really understand what is going on, but I find it funny. |
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| 18:37.56 | mozrat | hello |
| 18:39.14 | morsing | mozrat: When's your house warming? |
| 18:41.21 | mozrat | good point, we never got around to that |
| 18:41.59 | mozrat | I live several thousand light years from where you are anyway |
| 18:42.51 | mozrat | the train was full of Russian football fans acting like total assholes |
| 18:42.53 | mozrat | very intimidating |
| 18:44.06 | morsing | Milton Keynes is the place to be |
| 18:44.56 | morsing | Nice |
| 18:44.56 | mozrat | Moo |
| 18:45.12 | morsing | Quack |
| 18:45.40 | mozrat | Concrete ducks? |
| 18:45.45 | Gunde | What is special about Milton Keynes except that it has an Ikea? |
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| 18:48.12 | morsing | xotl! |
| 18:48.21 | xotl | evening |
| 18:48.24 | morsing | Gunde: It used to have concrete cows |
| 18:48.24 | mozrat | Gunde, good question |
| 18:48.46 | morsing | But now they're gone and instead it has free wireless Internet all over |
| 18:48.58 | mozrat | they have roundabouts, concrete cows, Bletchely Park and Wimbledon football club |
| 18:49.01 | secretlondon | thats not that bad |
| 18:49.09 | morsing | And free Internet! |
| 18:49.10 | secretlondon | free wireless i mean |
| 18:49.35 | secretlondon | free internet for the masses! |
| 18:49.38 | mozrat | i didnt know about free internet |
| 18:49.49 | morsing | mozrat: Was on the news 8 minutes ago |
| 18:51.11 | wethrin | mozrat: No, Bletchley has BP :) |
| 18:51.27 | Gunde | Bletchley park sounds familiar somehow |
| 18:51.37 | wethrin | WW2 Code Breaking centre |
| 18:51.58 | Gunde | yep, remember it from the cryptonomicron (spelling?) |
| 18:52.02 | xotl | enigma movie |
| 18:52.40 | xotl | alan turing |
| 18:53.14 | Gunde | yep |
| 18:53.28 | xotl | collosus |
| 18:54.14 | Gunde | ? |
| 18:55.07 | xotl | it was the name of the computer they used, or one of them |
| 18:55.23 | xotl | actually its spelt Colossus |
| 18:55.37 | xotl | designed by tommy flowers |
| 18:55.57 | JAV | hello |
| 18:56.04 | secretlondon | post office research station at dollis hill |
| 18:56.28 | Gunde | What does a post office research station research? |
| 18:56.46 | secretlondon | the post office used to be telephones as well |
| 18:56.48 | xotl | stamps, lost mail etc |
| 18:56.50 | secretlondon | so communications |
| 18:56.59 | wethrin | Yay for the GPO :) |
| 18:57.23 | mozrat | wething MK and BP are very close though |
| 18:58.25 | mozrat | wething.... wet thing.... wethrin |
| 18:58.33 | mozrat | whoever you are :-) |
| 18:59.41 | morsing | wethrin is virtual |
| 19:00.10 | morsing | He doesn't really exist |
| 19:05.48 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 19:05.50 | mozrat | I've never met him |
| 19:05.59 | mozrat | or you |
| 19:06.02 | morsing | mozrat: No-one's met him |
| 19:06.04 | morsing | :) |
| 19:06.15 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 19:06.18 | mozrat | he exists only in the ether |
| 19:06.36 | morsing | wethrin: Prove your existense |
| 19:07.02 | mozrat | speak now or forever admit you don't exist |
| 19:07.11 | mozrat | PROOF! |
| 19:07.33 | mozrat | ibot wethrin also doesn't exist |
| 19:09.19 | morsing | ibot wethrin |
| 19:09.21 | ibot | rumour has it, wethrin is bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha |
| 19:09.42 | morsing | d |
| 19:09.45 | morsing | ibot wethrin |
| 19:09.46 | ibot | rumour has it, wethrin is bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha |
| 19:09.51 | morsing | ha what? |
| 19:10.05 | morsing | ibot ha what? |
| 19:26.20 | morsing | Back |
| 19:40.49 | trousers_ | ibot trousers |
| 19:40.50 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, trousers is the new and improved George without the defects and with all the acne |
| 19:40.58 | trousers_ | :o |
| 19:41.08 | Gunde | ibot ibot |
| 19:41.09 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 19:41.38 | trousers_ | ibot mozrat |
| 19:41.40 | ibot | somebody said mozrat was a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker, or morsing, or completelylylyl pissed |
| 19:43.31 | trousers_ | ibot Goerge |
| 19:43.35 | trousers_ | ibot George |
| 19:43.36 | ibot | george is, like, gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel |
| 19:53.24 | secretlondon | ello trousers |
| 19:55.40 | morsing | mozzie? |
| 19:59.33 | boudiccas | ibot boudiccas |
| 19:59.39 | trousers_ | ello secretlondon |
| 19:59.40 | boudiccas | hahahaha |
| 20:01.18 | trousers_ | ibot boudiccas was a queen of the Brythonic Celtic Iceni people of Norfolk |
| 20:01.35 | trousers_ | ibot boudiccas |
| 20:01.48 | trousers_ | :( |
| 20:07.49 | PussInBoots | hi i plugged a 500GB on firewire but only 138GB are recognized |
| 20:07.55 | PussInBoots | any idea how to get the full 500GB? |
| 20:08.02 | morsing | Install Linux? |
| 20:08.08 | morsing | ping mozrat |
| 20:08.11 | secretlondon | a 500 gb what? |
| 20:08.36 | PussInBoots | what what? |
| 20:08.44 | PussInBoots | hdd |
| 20:09.26 | secretlondon | i dunno - google to see if there are firewire issues or issues with that hdd. check the partition |
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| 20:12.23 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 20:13.20 | rhowe | evening Henrik |
| 20:13.30 | rhowe | Hmm |
| 20:13.32 | rhowe | this is irritating |
| 20:14.13 | murb | well it is snowing here. |
| 20:14.23 | boudiccas | secretlondon; you're cold! its only 5'c here in maidstone |
| 20:14.32 | boudiccas | murb, where is 'here' please? |
| 20:14.42 | murb | here is $HOME |
| 20:14.52 | murb | I also have an alpha in this room. |
| 20:14.57 | murb | it isn't making the room any warmer. |
| 20:15.09 | murb | although i'm sure if i turned it on something would happen. |
| 20:15.15 | secretlondon | i have an athlon but their central heating properties are overstated |
| 20:15.15 | murb | Probably post from my energy supplier. |
| 20:15.28 | rhowe | murb: Ah, well I have 3, only one's running though :) |
| 20:15.35 | murb | I have an amd64 toy and working wake on lan. |
| 20:15.55 | murb | my next evil plan with be static arp enteries and a netfilter queue hack to send wol automagically |
| 20:16.07 | rhowe | murb: So that it wakes up when needed? |
| 20:16.15 | murb | rhowe: yes. |
| 20:16.27 | rhowe | murb: swsusp, or just a normal bootup? |
| 20:16.27 | murb | rhowe: i spent ages getting wol to work, now i atleast want to use it for something useful! |
| 20:16.29 | boudiccas | murb; ah, so its snowing in some part of Belgium ... i hope its not heading out our way then and across the channel :) |
| 20:16.38 | rhowe | murb: haha yeah, I know that feeling |
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| 20:17.15 | rhowe | evening Cope |
| 20:17.16 | murb | rhowe: read http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6604#c19 |
| 20:17.27 | Cope | hello rhowe |
| 20:17.29 | boudiccas | ibot boudiccas was a queen of the Brythonic Celtic Iceni people of Norfolk |
| 20:17.40 | rhowe | murb: Lemme guess.. driver puts card into deep sleep mode? |
| 20:17.41 | boudiccas | ibot boudiccas |
| 20:17.52 | murb | rhowe: better than that. |
| 20:18.10 | murb | i spent lots of doing disabling acpi, putting it into the correct powersaving mode with setpci . |
| 20:18.17 | rhowe | murb: haha |
| 20:18.17 | murb | no it writes the mac address out in reverse order. |
| 20:18.23 | rhowe | murb: *chuckle* |
| 20:19.21 | murb | a normal boot up i've not playhed with swsusp |
| 20:19.26 | murb | the last itm ei looked there was competition. |
| 20:19.50 | murb | who could smoke the most crack i think was the name of the game.. |
| 20:20.02 | murb | s/most/& best whatever/ |
| 20:21.06 | rhowe | murb: Yeah.. there was something on the XFS mailing list about it |
| 20:21.22 | Gunde | is ibot able to calculate time zone differences? |
| 20:21.38 | rhowe | murb: The guy doing swsusp (the other one is suspend2, I think) didn't seem to grok the concept of a filesystem journal |
| 20:22.03 | rhowe | murb: Easy fix - freeze the filesystem before suspend. He didn't seem to grok |
| 20:22.44 | rhowe | This thing has to pick something up, surely? |
| 20:23.43 | rhowe | Bus 002 Device 003: ID 07c4:a600 Datafab Systems, Inc. |
| 20:23.44 | rhowe | aha |
| 20:24.01 | rhowe | Now, why can't it see me plug in a mouse, a floppy drive or a bluetooth adapter? |
| 20:24.12 | rhowe | I wonder if it can read anything from a memory card |
| 20:24.43 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.47 | rhowe | yup |
| 20:25.33 | rhowe | It's not like it's missing the relevant USB driver, it just can't see a USB device being plugged in |
| 20:25.38 | rhowe | I wonder if it's a power problem |
| 20:29.01 | rhowe | FFS |
| 20:29.04 | trousers_ | argh, I'm in a really awkward state where I'm physically tired but mentally awake :( |
| 20:29.05 | rhowe | I didn't include OHCI, only UHCI |
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| 21:06.52 | trousers_ | set timestamp_format %H:%M:00 |
| 21:07.13 | trousers_ | Slash button is a bit iffy :( |
| 21:07.17 | mozrat | heh |
| 21:07.28 | mozrat | kick trousers YOU_PLONKER |
| 21:07.33 | mozrat | oh, so is mine :-) |
| 21:07.36 | trousers_ | Hehe |
| 21:08.06 | trousers_ | I still don't know how to connect to multiple networks in irssi :( |
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| 21:11.14 | trousers | That didn't work. |
| 21:12.31 | rhowe | whee |
| 21:12.37 | rhowe | We now have a Linux desktop in the kitchen |
| 21:13.36 | trousers | rhowe: Funky, is it controlling the oven/toaster or anything or is it just there? :P |
| 21:13.55 | rhowe | trousers: Just there :) |
| 21:14.18 | rhowe | trousers: It's actually my web/remote access server, but it's now been 'repurposed' :) |
| 21:15.25 | trousers | rhowe: Set it up with the oven so you can start dinner from a blackberry :) |
| 21:16.50 | trousers | Aha, I finally have irssi sorted out \p/ |
| 21:34.28 | trousers | And am also slowly converting some people at school to Linux \o/ |
| 21:45.22 | mozrat | trousers: you have /server and /connect |
| 21:45.37 | mozrat | IIRC /server disconnects you from your current server and connects to another |
| 21:45.45 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.51 | mozrat | or... the other way around :-) |
| 21:57.17 | sabinef72 | mozrat ! |
| 22:30.55 | mozrat | hey sabinef72 |
| 22:31.05 | mozrat | any mailing list admins here? |
| 22:36.35 | sabinef72 | not me |
| 22:38.31 | mozrat | Are you on the mailing list? |
| 22:41.08 | sabinef72 | no |
| 22:41.34 | sabinef72 | I don't now what is it |
| 22:42.35 | mozrat | the GLLUG Linux list |
| 22:42.51 | sabinef72 | have I to be on the mailing list ? |
| 22:43.43 | mozrat | Not really |
| 22:44.29 | sabinef72 | I'm not a geek woman, so.... |
| 22:44.37 | mozrat | fair enough |
| 22:46.09 | sabinef72 | if you think I have a good reason to be on the mailing list, in this case ok |
| 22:46.11 | sabinef72 | otherwise.... |
| 22:47.48 | mozrat | don't bother joining it |
| 22:48.50 | sabinef72 | is it geek emails ? |
| 22:48.55 | mozrat | ooh yes |
| 22:50.08 | sabinef72 | well, I will understand anything in this case |
| 22:50.18 | sabinef72 | except if it's about gimp |
| 22:50.38 | sabinef72 | I could understand a bit in this case |
| 22:51.52 | mozrat | you meant to say "I won't understand anything....." |
| 22:51.58 | mozrat | not "I will..." |
| 22:52.12 | sabinef72 | euh.... |
| 22:52.19 | sabinef72 | well...I dunno |
| 22:52.19 | mozrat | :) |
| 22:52.30 | sabinef72 | do you want to make me upset ? |
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| 22:54.29 | mozrat | nope |
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| 22:58.00 | Leeds | hmm... someone is leeching off my connection, I think |
| 22:58.31 | mozrat | hi quinophex |
| 22:58.41 | mozrat | Leeds: find and destroy them |
| 22:59.17 | quinophex | hi mozrat |
| 22:59.32 | quinophex | i thought i should better come back here as i'm starting a new job in the big city on monday |
| 22:59.43 | mozrat | quinophex: oh cool. congratulations |
| 23:00.21 | Leeds | wouldn't be so bad if they were polite enough to throttle themselves, but it seemed like they were flooding my line |
| 23:00.30 | Leeds | quinophex: I assume you mean London... :-) |
| 23:00.58 | quinophex | Leeds: well, yes ;) |
| 23:01.36 | quinophex | it's big, it's a city |
| 23:01.40 | quinophex | matches the profile :) |
| 23:02.03 | quinophex | going to miss the meeting next week, which is annoying :( |
| 23:02.10 | Leeds | the/a |
| 23:02.11 | mozrat | shame :( |
| 23:02.18 | Leeds | I'm not going to be able to make the meeting either |
| 23:02.45 | quinophex | i wanted to hear the talk about xen |
| 23:02.56 | quinophex | i don't suppose anyone makes recordings of talks or something? |
| 23:03.08 | mozrat | quinophex: it is a possibility |
| 23:03.23 | mozrat | we should be doing such things.. problem is finding volunteers to do a decent job of it |
| 23:03.32 | mozrat | they are *very* thin on the ground at the moment |
| 23:03.38 | Leeds | also, serving... |
| 23:03.58 | mozrat | Leeds: less of a problem. HantsLUG have that cracked now |
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| 23:04.07 | mozrat | they use archive.org I think |
| 23:04.13 | quinophex | i'd want to volunteer... but, i'm travelling back to norfolk each weekend for a while until i get sorted out with proper place to live etc. |
| 23:04.32 | Leeds | yeah, as long as you've got permission from the speaker |
| 23:04.53 | mozrat | quinophex: we have one GLLUG talk on our website actually |
| 23:04.56 | boudiccas | quinophex; whereabouts in Norfolk? I did my nurse training at the N&N |
| 23:05.04 | quinophex | Aylsham |
| 23:05.08 | quinophex | the old N&N? |
| 23:05.08 | Leeds | quinophex: everyone has a good reason not to help out - the problem is that *everyone* has a good reason |
| 23:05.19 | boudiccas | Ah, I used to live in Dereham |
| 23:05.31 | quinophex | Leeds: i've done a fair amount for Alug while i've been here... i'm quite happy to do stuff for gllug |
| 23:05.46 | boudiccas | yes, the old N&N not the N&NUH |
| 23:06.07 | boudiccas | beer! |
| 23:06.13 | Leeds | sorry - that wasn't sarcastic... that genuinely is the problem, that everyone has a good reason - something else to do that's more important to them, etc. |
| 23:06.54 | quinophex | well, if people don't mind my 18 month old daughter coming to meetings then it'd certainly be a case of being able to help ;) |
| 23:07.06 | quinophex | she likes Tux, computers and is very well behaved :) |
| 23:07.13 | mozrat | quinophex: ooh, she might take the record off of Wm |
| 23:07.19 | mozrat | he was 4 I think |
| 23:07.26 | quinophex | she's been to a couple of Alug meetings |
| 23:08.01 | mozrat | quinophex: we have had a couple of children come before, it's not really a problem at all. |
| 23:08.11 | quinophex | oh, good |
| 23:08.18 | quinophex | i know some geeks don't like children |
| 23:08.21 | mozrat | I'll take mine at some stage, but she has ballet and swimming on Saturdays |
| 23:08.28 | quinophex | but, if she was ever to misbehave we'd take her out, obviously |
| 23:08.28 | mozrat | quinophex: their loss, tbh |
| 23:08.33 | quinophex | and not take her into talks etc. |
| 23:08.51 | mozrat | quinophex: our venue has a quick escape route ideal for kiddies :-) |
| 23:09.00 | mozrat | sit at the top near the fire exit |
| 23:09.14 | Leeds | as long as she doesn't mind being used as a football... |
| 23:09.39 | quinophex | if i was rich i'd get her a toughbook as her laptop |
| 23:20.50 | sabinef72 | time for bed |
| 23:20.54 | sabinef72 | good night all |
| 23:22.27 | mozrat | ouchy |
| 23:22.30 | mozrat | nn sabinef72 |
| 23:22.40 | mozrat | nn |
| 23:23.52 | Leeds | 'night |
| 23:25.01 | keithlard_ | i could video the talks on my phone! |
| 23:25.16 | keithlard_ | except it only has about 32Mb of memory, so that's enough for about ten seconds :S |
| 23:26.32 | Leeds | I suspect that if someone reputable would honestly volunteer to do the filming, someone else could be found to lend a camcorder |
| 23:27.46 | quinophex | i've got a camcorder.... but... |
| 23:27.49 | quinophex | it has no microphone port |
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| 23:48.47 | keithlard_ | i can take informative stills :) |
| 23:48.56 | secretlondon | do we have any reputable? |
| 23:48.59 | secretlondon | anyone |
| 23:52.01 | keithlard_ | i'm disreputable, but i'd be happy to film if someone lends me a camera |
| 23:55.36 | quinophex | the camera might have a reasonable enough microphone, but at the back of a lecture hall i'd doubt it :( |
| 23:59.05 | Leeds | so, the plan is... quinophex gets a new, better camera, and keithlard_ uses it... right? |
| 23:59.19 | quinophex | i wish i was rich enough ;) |
| 23:59.42 | keithlard_ | even a webcam would be fine |
| 23:59.53 | keithlard_ | we're not exackly making 2001 here |
| 23:59.59 | quinophex | just taking this job, travelling for interviews, buying a few bits, paying for a months rent etc. has cost me over a grand |
