| 00:22.43 | cpufreak | hrm |
| 00:22.48 | cpufreak | anyone seen cope? |
| 00:39.33 | z00dax | not in a while |
| 00:54.45 | keithlard_ | i had a voice chat with him earlier :> |
| 00:56.11 | z00dax | howse he doing ? |
| 00:56.25 | z00dax | I havent spoken to him in ages, or seen him for that matter |
| 00:57.42 | keithlard_ | he's been in hiding! due to crime! |
| 00:57.58 | keithlard_ | no not reely... he is just busy with 106 children ekcetera |
| 00:58.10 | z00dax | !106! |
| 00:58.13 | Leeds | oh, no, he didn't kill another prostitute did he? |
| 00:58.21 | z00dax | 'another?' |
| 00:58.33 | keithlard_ | no it is the same one again, she's undead |
| 00:59.13 | Leeds | bummer |
| 00:59.44 | keithlard_ | #lrug is even more undead... where is everyone at the moment |
| 01:00.14 | keithlard_ | some type of internet holiday |
| 01:00.15 | Leeds | #lrug? |
| 01:00.33 | keithlard_ | == london ruby user group |
| 01:01.50 | Leeds | uh, blah |
| 01:02.48 | keithlard_ | indeed |
| 01:03.07 | z00dax | well, it is 1am... |
| 01:03.17 | z00dax | although, its also the demi weekend |
| 01:03.42 | Leeds | 1am, 9am, what's the difference? |
| 01:06.22 | keithlard_ | your life sounds a bit like james clavell's 'noble house' |
| 01:06.42 | keithlard_ | except for the sloshing back cheap booze obviously |
| 01:12.45 | Leeds | I should really read his stuff - it's somewhat required |
| 01:14.58 | Leeds | might have to join the local library... I suspect they'll have a copy :-) |
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| 07:24.08 | morsing | 'morning |
| 07:24.13 | Leeds | nope |
| 07:24.17 | murb | you can't? |
| 07:24.18 | morsing | FO |
| 07:32.19 | Leeds | FOO |
| 07:57.56 | morsing | http://www.morsing.cc/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi |
| 07:58.08 | morsing | Have I been broken into? |
| 08:01.40 | Leeds | you mean anally raped? |
| 08:08.37 | morsing | Leeds: I mean smokeping no longer runs because a file is missing?! |
| 08:11.24 | Leeds | ah, I misunderstood |
| 08:11.42 | morsing | Leeds: You always do |
| 08:13.17 | morsing | How do I get apt-cache to show a list of files in a package? |
| 08:18.36 | mozrat | dpkg -L packagename |
| 08:18.39 | mozrat | or maybe -l |
| 08:18.51 | mozrat | or do you mean packages that aren't installed yet |
| 08:19.12 | morsing | So that file was never part of the package |
| 08:19.22 | morsing | I'm confused. I've definately seen it |
| 08:19.44 | morsing | mozrat: Why did procmail stop working? |
| 08:20.22 | mozrat | because it wanted to get to the other side |
| 08:20.50 | mozrat | morsing you can pass dpkg a filename and get it to return which package it is a part of |
| 08:24.08 | morsing | dpkg: *smokeping.pl* not found. |
| 08:25.13 | sabinef72 | morning all |
| 08:25.30 | mozrat | ewh |
| 08:25.33 | sabinef72 | ohhh |
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| 08:26.00 | sabinef72 | is that better ? |
| 08:26.52 | mozrat | Sadly not |
| 08:27.21 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
| 08:30.22 | sabinef72 | mozrat: you are lucky, morsing likes kissing you |
| 08:32.36 | sabinef72 | :-) |
| 08:38.45 | morsing | Why does Linux suck? |
| 08:41.00 | mozrat | It will all be better now that Microsoft are involved |
| 08:41.08 | morsing | I hope so... |
| 08:41.30 | mozrat | I'm looking forward to I.E on Linux. Stupid stupid firefox can go suck |
| 08:41.44 | mozrat | and also I want a working version of Visual Basic to play with on Linux |
| 08:41.46 | morsing | Can't believe I have to drive to the datacenter to get the serial number and modek number of this stupid Linux system |
| 08:42.07 | morsing | mozrat: Why is my procmail no longer working? |
| 08:42.45 | sabinef72 | mozrat: try mozilla |
| 08:43.57 | mozrat | morsing: Did you compile it with the --use-the-force-luke flag? |
| 08:44.10 | mozrat | sabinef72: I'm joking :-) |
| 08:48.05 | morsing | mozrat: It doesn't even touch my .procmailrc |
| 08:48.18 | sabinef72 | firefox is not so good on my computer, that's the reason why I'm using mozilla |
| 08:48.32 | sabinef72 | firefox don't like the software I'm using for my website |
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| 08:48.49 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 08:49.49 | mozrat | hey SlayerXP |
| 08:49.56 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 08:57.43 | sabinef72 | hi SlayerXP |
| 09:02.06 | serris | Morning all |
| 09:04.29 | morsing | serris! |
| 09:04.36 | serris | how's it going morsing? |
| 09:05.00 | morsing | Fine but still have a cold. Mmm... Fireworks |
| 09:05.23 | serris | Yeah I seem to be having a cold too |
| 09:06.51 | sabinef72 | ohhhh you are all contaminated... I don't know if I have to stay here in this case.... |
| 09:12.48 | morsing | :( |
| 09:15.38 | sabinef72 | Am I stupid ? I kissed morsing this morning ! |
| 09:20.22 | morsing | :( |
| 09:21.03 | sabinef72 | do you take pills for your cold ? |
| 09:24.59 | serris | No |
| 09:25.09 | serris | Can't really do much with a cold besides wait it out |
| 09:25.48 | z00dax | mornigs! |
| 09:25.54 | z00dax | typo! |
| 09:26.03 | sabinef72 | be careful this one is contaminated too ! |
| 09:26.07 | serris | hi z00dax |
| 09:26.32 | z00dax | sabinef72: yes :( contaminated still |
| 09:26.35 | z00dax | serris: hey |
| 09:26.47 | serris | How's it going? |
| 09:26.49 | z00dax | how many of you lot are going to be there on the 11th ? |
| 09:27.05 | serris | Not me : ( |
| 09:28.19 | sabinef72 | morsing: serris and z00dax : NO KISSES |
| 09:28.32 | sabinef72 | untill you will be without viruses |
| 09:32.47 | sabinef72 | z00dax: where are your pictures from India ? I would like to see them |
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| 09:40.19 | Blapto | hot toddy! |
| 09:40.36 | Blapto | hot toddy, paracetemol and decongestants will do the world of good for a cold |
| 09:40.50 | sabinef72 | are you ill too Blapto ? |
| 09:41.03 | Blapto | and sabinef72, you can't get anything off us as long as you're running a firewall. |
| 09:41.28 | Blapto | I'm a little groggy, but I was in the datacentre yesterday from 2PM-10PM so that's expected. |
| 09:41.33 | sabinef72 | why are you so bad with me Blapto ? |
| 09:41.59 | Blapto | Eh? |
| 09:42.33 | Blapto | What do you mean? |
| 09:43.14 | sabinef72 | I don't know if I'm running a firewall.... |
| 09:43.25 | Blapto | Ah, right, you should probably find out. |
| 09:43.54 | Blapto | Go and pester your systems administrator, he'll appreciate the attention. |
| 09:47.33 | popey | mozrat: ping |
| 09:47.53 | popey | mozrat: did you by any chance go to a trexy drinking session last night? |
| 09:48.14 | sabinef72 | Blapto: pester my husband ???,, |
| 09:56.31 | z00dax | Blapto: did the hot toddy drill a few times, it has indeed worked. but considering I am on antibiotics now, and told to stay off all alcohol, my GP might get a bit mad if I tried more hot toddy today |
| 09:56.50 | z00dax | sabinef72: pics, on my laptop only! |
| 09:57.32 | sabinef72 | z00dax: when I'll see them so ? |
| 09:59.43 | z00dax | whwnever you are within viewing distance of my laptop |
| 10:01.02 | sabinef72 | you don't have a website ? |
| 10:02.00 | z00dax | I am just a poor struggling sysadmin type, cant afford those kind of nice things, websites and such |
| 10:04.45 | sabinef72 | hmmm |
| 10:05.03 | sabinef72 | the solution could be bringing your laptop when I'll be in London |
| 10:05.13 | z00dax | that might work |
| 10:05.14 | sabinef72 | so I could see them with comments of you |
| 10:09.48 | Blapto | z00dax, just skip the rum/whiskey/whatever stage, it's not so good but still better than a wet flannel |
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| 10:16.50 | Blapto|Work | Anybody know of any good sources for selinux tutorials |
| 10:21.02 | morsing | Blapto|Work! |
| 10:21.54 | serris | woohoo for home made wine |
| 10:22.01 | Blapto|Work | morsing! |
| 10:22.58 | morsing | Blapto O brother of SlayerXP |
| 10:26.47 | z00dax | Blapto: dwalsh's blog and personal website - lots of good info there |
| 10:26.54 | Blapto | morsing oh clone of mozrat |
| 10:27.47 | Blapto | Gah, I'm crap at permissions. How do I give a group read access to a file without buggering up the permissions that currently exist for that file. |
| 10:28.04 | Blapto | Can a file belong to more than one group |
| 10:28.07 | z00dax | g+r ? |
| 10:28.33 | Blapto | yes, but I don't want the users in this group to belong to the group that currently owns the file. |
| 10:29.20 | z00dax | chmod 777 the file |
| 10:29.23 | z00dax | its a free world |
| 10:29.27 | z00dax | everyone must have rights |
| 10:33.43 | z00dax | corporal punishment for my political views! |
| 10:34.42 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:35.23 | keithlard_ | blapto> acls |
| 10:36.02 | cpufreak | anyone able to prod cope? |
| 10:36.08 | cpufreak | need to ask him sommat |
| 10:37.24 | keithlard_ | email maybe best |
| 10:38.23 | Blapto | keithlard, give me a clue? |
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| 10:39.25 | gnudo | i tried to install linux-image-2.6.18-1-486 on my sarge laptop but i got the error: yaird error: bad value in /boot/config-2.6.18-1-486: CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST="/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config" (fatal) so i wonder what gives? |
| 10:41.20 | keithlard_ | http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsysm/article.php/3077971 |
| 10:46.44 | Leeds | evening all |
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| 10:55.19 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 10:59.23 | Leeds | bloody IE |
| 10:59.41 | flips_and_rails | Does anyone have their own svn system running through apache that works? |
| 10:59.59 | Blapto | Thanks keith |
| 11:01.53 | z00dax | flips_and_rails: sure |
| 11:02.29 | Leeds | some combination of the network (i.e. local or network-located firewall) and IE, on my sister's computer at work is stopping her getting/saving/returning a cookie from my webmail software |
| 11:02.32 | flips_and_rails | gnudo's problem is that shell will expand $UNAME_RELEASE how it likes, a string which isn't interpreted in single quotes would be more likely to work |
| 11:02.58 | z00dax | Leeds: adblock or something such |
| 11:03.05 | flips_and_rails | z00dax: good, fancy offering some knowlege?! |
| 11:03.56 | flips_and_rails | pls ? :S |
| 11:03.58 | z00dax | flips_and_rails: sure, yum install mod_dav_svn |
| 11:04.07 | flips_and_rails | got that |
| 11:04.24 | z00dax | look in the subversion.conf file it drops in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ and create the svn repo |
| 11:04.31 | flips_and_rails | Its the apache conf that i think is failing and I can't figure why |
| 11:04.42 | z00dax | then /usr/sbin/setenforce 0; point browser at httpd, and it works! |
| 11:05.00 | z00dax | the mod_dav is the apache bit... |
| 11:05.13 | z00dax | it just pulls in everything else it needs ( like subversion! ) |
| 11:05.35 | z00dax | wnat me to show you what I have in the subversion.conf ? |
| 11:05.41 | z00dax | want! |
| 11:06.50 | flips_and_rails | well I have a system which doens't have such niceties as yum so I have to do things on the manual side |
| 11:06.59 | Leeds | z00dax: possibly... she can't (or won't) install a proper browser, and obviously knows nothing about her network |
| 11:07.24 | z00dax | flips_and_rails: http://pastebin.ca/243357 does this help ? |
| 11:07.58 | z00dax | flips_and_rails: with that in place, i goto the server at http://server/svn/<repo-name>/ |
| 11:08.10 | z00dax | ( need that last / , or I get 403 ) |
| 11:08.14 | flips_and_rails | ah yes I have all those things in my apache.conf |
| 11:08.36 | flips_and_rails | ah i get a forbidden whilst trying to access |
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| 11:36.55 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 11:36.59 | morsing | ping mozrat |
| 11:37.27 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 11:43.53 | phearless | yo. |
| 12:06.28 | SlayerXP | I would have perhaps said something similar to Tim, except he's a paying customer :) |
| 12:48.48 | Blapto | Mister Hands' post? |
| 12:50.42 | Leeds | yes |
| 12:51.28 | Leeds | his typically magnificant post |
| 12:53.45 | Leeds | sushi++ |
| 12:54.43 | Blapto | link? |
| 12:57.12 | Leeds | you're laughing at Mister Hands' post? he won't like that... |
| 13:02.29 | Lottokim | Is the meeting on saturday on the same place as last time? SFD |
| 13:24.47 | z00dax | Lottokim: its at the usual place |
| 13:25.02 | z00dax | yes, same talk venue as SFD |
| 13:33.19 | morsing | Beer |
| 13:44.06 | popey | mozrat: ping |
| 13:52.45 | Leeds | now that's a geeky question on University Challenge I could answer: "How many timezones does China have?" |
| 13:54.05 | z00dax | prolly 1 |
| 13:54.22 | boudiccas | 3 |
| 13:54.35 | Leeds | just the 1 |
| 13:56.09 | Leeds | and for even geekier: "historically called a kilobyte because it's about 1000 bytes, what is the currently more acceptable term..." |
| 13:57.34 | Leeds | followed by "what's 4 bits (half a byte) called?" and "what's 2 bits or half of the previous answer?" |
| 13:57.53 | Leeds | although they did use the term "hexidecimal digit" which sounds wrong to me |
| 13:58.22 | z00dax | that would need some serious immagination to get right |
| 13:58.30 | z00dax | but it is, sort of, correct. |
| 13:58.41 | Leeds | hexit? |
| 14:00.40 | murb | octet is a nice name for an 8 bit byte. |
| 14:33.33 | mozrat | popey, pong, but I'm running into a meeting |
| 14:33.35 | mozrat | will pong you later |
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| 14:44.00 | Leeds | cope! |
| 14:44.08 | Cope | ello! |
| 14:44.14 | Leeds | how are you? |
| 14:44.47 | Cope | not bad, I suppose. |
| 14:45.27 | Leeds | you suppose? |
| 14:50.20 | Leeds | what have you been up to? |
| 14:51.17 | Cope | family and work mostly; now cracking on with really building svn server - after test machine was a sucess |
| 14:55.38 | SlayerXP | what more than "apt-get install subversion" do you need? :) |
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| 14:59.55 | mozrat | popey!!! |
| 15:00.01 | mozrat | pong! |
| 15:00.03 | popey | pong |
| 15:00.12 | popey | did you go for beer last night avec trexy people? |
| 15:01.14 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:02.46 | Cope | slayerxp: well, a driver that works with a dell raid controller would help |
| 15:04.55 | mozrat | hey popey |
| 15:05.02 | mozrat | You have my full attention |
| 15:05.17 | mozrat | I liked your blog post - it was comphrensive and almost like a survey of LUG trends |
| 15:06.52 | popey | heh |
| 15:06.54 | popey | ^^ |
| 15:08.33 | mozrat | nope, |
| 15:08.36 | mozrat | didn't |
| 15:09.36 | Cope | mozrat!! |
| 15:09.47 | popey | they do a free beer night first tuesday of the month |
| 15:09.59 | popey | apparently only for techies |
| 15:10.06 | mozrat | Sean was 5 yesterday |
| 15:10.13 | mozrat | So I ate cake and played with his toy |
| 15:10.16 | mozrat | toys |
| 15:10.26 | popey | what toys? |
| 15:10.46 | popey | Amd Athlon? Intel Core2Duo? |
| 15:12.16 | mozrat | he got a little handheld games thingy |
| 15:12.23 | mozrat | a basic one with kids games |
| 15:12.32 | mozrat | not sure what it has inside |
| 15:12.52 | mozrat | Oh dear. Peter Cannon is not going to be happy :-) |
| 15:13.06 | mozrat | He came to GLLUG after getting fed up with the flaming on WolvesLUG |
| 15:13.19 | mozrat | and now he seems to be wearing a paraffin suit on the mailing list and flicking matches :-) |
| 15:13.34 | Leeds | is he anywhere near London? |
| 15:14.05 | popey | no, Wolverhampton |
| 15:14.25 | popey | he does seem to provoke "somewhat" |
| 15:14.26 | Leeds | well, then kick him off the list |
| 15:14.45 | popey | maybe the personality of the LUGs isn't right for him |
| 15:14.51 | popey | maybe he should setup his own LUG :) |
| 15:15.03 | Leeds | people who aren't in London shouldn't be allowed on the list |
| 15:15.19 | popey | right |
| 15:15.56 | popey | indeed |
| 15:17.18 | iTron | Leeds: *sniff* But I have to complete the house sale first. *sulk* |
| 15:17.28 | Leeds | iTron: it was looming when I left the UK last year :-) |
| 15:17.51 | iTron | Leeds: *grin* It's definitely going to be before the end of this year though :P |
| 15:17.57 | iTron | Promise! |
| 15:18.25 | iTron | Leeds: Exchange of contracts should be happening - all going well - next week. |
| 15:19.25 | morsing | iTron! |
| 15:19.44 | iTron | It takes a while to extricate oneself from the UK's tendrils. |
| 15:19.56 | iTron | morsing: Greetings and salutations! |
| 15:41.44 | Leeds | iTron: nonsense |
| 15:43.17 | iTron | Leeds: Elaborate. |
| 15:45.17 | Leeds | extricating onself is easy... extricating oneself and one's wife, and getting a visa and selling a house and buying a new one, slightly less so |
| 15:45.37 | Leeds | extricating oneself pretty much means putting clothes in a suitcase and getting on a plane |
| 15:49.15 | iTron | *sigh* |
| 15:50.04 | Leeds | what I'm saying is that it really doesn't take two years to emigrate, unless you want it to |
| 15:50.33 | iTron | It would take too long to explani why it took 2 years instead of straight away. |
| 15:50.49 | Leeds | okay - but don't blame that on the emigration |
| 15:51.40 | iTron | Leeds: You also forgot we have a 4 years old son too. |
| 15:52.12 | z00dax | iTron: dont leave him behind! |
| 15:52.42 | iTron | Leeds: But, you have a point, of a generic sort. |
| 15:52.51 | Leeds | iTron: I didn't forget - I didn't know |
| 15:53.30 | iTron | z00dax: That would be a "d'oh!" moment for sure ;) |
| 15:54.28 | z00dax | these days, you never know |
| 15:54.35 | z00dax | its strange times we live in |
| 15:55.01 | Cope | woo z00dax |
| 15:56.29 | z00dax | hey Cope ! |
| 15:56.37 | Cope | hallo |
| 15:59.52 | z00dax | how are things with you ? |
| 16:02.16 | Cope | ok... am engaging in dubious hackery |
| 16:02.29 | Cope | rhel 3 ---> yum ---> centos repo |
| 16:04.44 | z00dax | ooh.. how far out of date was your machine ? |
| 16:05.43 | z00dax | http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=19 might have something interesting |
| 16:09.02 | morsing | ping SlayerXP |
| 16:09.08 | SlayerXP | pong |
| 16:11.12 | morsing | SlayerXP: Stop posting to Gllug |
| 16:11.29 | SlayerXP | why? |
| 16:11.34 | morsing | My procmail iis broken and you account for half the spam in my inbox at the moment! |
| 16:12.35 | z00dax | :) |
| 16:12.39 | SlayerXP | my messages count as spam? |
| 16:12.43 | morsing | Yes... |
| 16:12.46 | morsing | Always |
| 16:12.47 | SlayerXP | if so, then you have 6 in total |
| 16:13.02 | SlayerXP | that seems like a manageable number |
| 16:13.30 | SlayerXP | anyway, blame z00dax |
| 16:13.39 | SlayerXP | he was mean, and didn't explain himself properly. |
| 16:13.48 | z00dax | :) |
| 16:14.04 | z00dax | too much stored up saracm does that to me, i should seek help |
| 16:16.04 | SlayerXP | I dread "I have RHEL.." question because they almost always mean "I have RHEL that I installed from some pinched media, I then proceeded to install and awful lot of third party RPMs on it and now my 'server' has a problem. HELP!" |
| 16:16.43 | z00dax | true |
| 16:20.09 | z00dax | yeah, and cross posting sux. |
| 16:26.20 | keithlard_ | aah, cope. i've been expecting you |
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| 16:33.54 | zachary | moin/pre-evening |
| 16:34.48 | murb | zachary: moin != morning |
| 16:35.41 | z00dax | hello! |
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| 17:05.53 | keithlard_ | hmm, is there a better spreadsheet than gnumeric? I'm finding it slightly annoying |
| 17:06.22 | Cope | excel? |
| 17:06.34 | Cope | lotus123? |
| 17:06.39 | keithlard_ | ironically, excel probably is the best |
| 17:06.47 | Cope | I like sc best |
| 17:06.57 | keithlard_ | hmm... actually sc would be great |
| 17:07.11 | Cope | sc rocks |
| 17:07.12 | keithlard_ | i wonder if there's a way to produce nice pdfs from it? |
| 17:08.00 | keithlard_ | sc has the bonus that if you do not understand something, you can just read the c code, which is quite straightforward |
| 17:11.36 | zachary | keithlard_ OpenOffice has been working great for me. Actually it is the NeoOffice/J derivative for Mac. But still I'm happy with it. |
| 17:14.12 | keithlard_ | zachary> thanks. i don't get on that well with the ooo word processor, though, as it seems to have all the user interface horror of word, but without the microsoft compatibility |
| 17:14.22 | keithlard_ | i imagine the spreadsheet is similar |
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| 17:16.25 | keithlard_ | look at this workflow from gnumeric which illustrates the kind of thing i'm talking about |
| 17:16.34 | keithlard_ | i go to copy a value from one spreadsheet and paste it into another |
| 17:17.01 | keithlard_ | but instead of pasting the value, it pastes the formula which computed the value - which is of course meaningless on a different sheet, so it changes the formula to '=sum(#REF!)' |
| 17:17.34 | keithlard_ | i click inside the formula and drag the mouse to select the range of cells i want to sum, but now it makes the formula '=sum(#REFC9:12)', which doesn't work |
| 17:17.56 | keithlard_ | so i edit it manually to remove the #REF!, but now it's changed the formula into the literal string '=sum(C9:C12)' which isn't what i want |
| 17:18.19 | keithlard_ | it would have been fewer keystrokes to just manually type the value in... |
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| 17:19.05 | keithlard_ | it's a fine example of inhumane interfaces |
| 17:25.20 | zachary | Under NeoOffice/J. Highlight the formula you want to copy, so that it is displayed in the "input line." Highlight the input line. Change spreadsheets. Tag and drag the input line to the desired block. |
| 17:25.58 | keithlard_ | what i want is an option to 'copy value' instead of 'copy formula' |
| 17:26.42 | keithlard_ | actually i suppose there is a way to link two sheets which would be better |
| 17:26.49 | keithlard_ | i do not know how though :( |
| 17:31.28 | keithlard_ | another example: every time i create a pdf it forgets the name and location of the last pdf i generated. so i have to navigate through a long and tedious directory structure and enter a long filename every single time |
| 17:31.38 | zachary | try looking for a "paste special" with an option to link. The reference for the new cell look like "=$Sheet1.$A$1" |
| 17:31.50 | keithlard_ | naw, paste special doesn't work in gnumeric |
| 17:31.53 | Leeds | hey zachary... |
| 17:32.07 | zachary | hi Leeds! |
| 17:32.15 | Leeds | how goes it? |
| 17:32.16 | keithlard_ | it might do if it was separate worksheets in the same file, but these are two different files |
| 17:34.10 | zachary | NeoOffice can do external document linking. Which, I would guess the OpenOffice can. Just using the Paste Special and mark the link option. |
| 17:34.40 | zachary | Leeds, doing pretty good. The Wife is back on the 17th :) |
| 17:34.52 | keithlard_ | leeds, any luck with the job hunting :> |
| 17:35.09 | Leeds | keithlard_: uh... haven't quite gotten around to any yet |
| 17:36.00 | Leeds | nope... but I *am* going to be looking at money issues relatively soon, so I should get on with it |
| 17:36.22 | zachary | Leeds, try MS. I hear they are taking on Linux experts now. |
| 17:37.19 | Leeds | ha ha... don't you mean Novell? |
| 17:37.43 | Leeds | they actually do have some open jobs in HK, but obviously not Linux ones |
| 17:39.18 | zachary | Leeds, just trying to make a sad MS/Novell joke. Which in trueth is a very sad matter. When Novell bought Suse I had a notion that something bad was going to happen. |
| 17:39.37 | keithlard_ | have you seen the ricky gervais / stephen merchant 'microsoft values' videos? very funny |
| 17:40.19 | zachary | keithlard_ I have not seen it. Got a link? |
| 17:41.19 | keithlard_ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9076288729387457440 |
| 17:44.38 | zachary | keithlard_ Thanks! Watchin now, and laughing my ass off. |
| 17:45.03 | wethrin | ZACH! |
| 17:45.14 | zachary | DAN! |
| 17:45.24 | Cope | ZEBULAN! |
| 17:45.25 | wethrin | LTNS. How's life treating you? |
| 17:46.09 | zachary | A bit sick at the mement. I'm getting over bronchitis. But still coughing out half a lung. |
| 17:46.34 | wethrin | :-/ |
| 17:46.42 | zachary | But doing pretty good. |
| 17:46.53 | zachary | Dr. Dan yet? |
| 17:47.36 | Leeds | ha! that'll be the day! Dr. Dan might have to get a job! :-D |
| 17:48.00 | psnl | wethrin? Job? never |
| 17:48.40 | wethrin | Jobs? Whazzat? |
| 17:48.46 | Leeds | wethrin: no idea, mate |
| 17:48.54 | wethrin | right |
| 17:49.00 | zachary | I'm going with the jobless theory, but It's not working too well. Bills come to mind. |
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| 17:49.21 | Leeds | catalyst: are you employed? |
| 17:50.52 | catalyst | not currently |
| 17:50.53 | catalyst | why? |
| 17:51.54 | Leeds | just wondering which side of that fence you were one |
| 17:51.55 | Leeds | on |
| 17:53.16 | Cope | are you around, old chum? |
| 17:53.44 | wethrin | catalyst is one of those student layabouts |
| 17:53.56 | Leeds | wethrin: you mean *another* one, right? |
| 17:54.20 | wethrin | Leeds: They get everywhere |
| 17:55.49 | catalyst | :D |
| 18:05.53 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 18:06.33 | morsing | zachary! |
| 18:06.39 | Cope | Manganese(IV) oxide |
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| 18:08.41 | zachary | hey morsing! |
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| 18:15.05 | morsing | AndrewBlack! |
| 18:15.21 | morsing | zachary: How are the kids? |
| 18:17.46 | zachary | Doing well. My daughter just had her first set of marks/grades. She did very well. My son is still being a pain in the ass. He doesn't listen to me at all. I'm hoping when we get him into school, his attitude will change. If not I'll have the bully of the class. |
| 18:18.16 | z00dax | hey Cope |
| 18:20.21 | zachary | I think it's about time for a cup of tea. |
| 18:20.26 | Cope | :) |
| 18:20.33 | morsing | Tea?! |
| 18:20.34 | z00dax | wuzup |
| 18:20.42 | z00dax | how did your rhel -> centos move go ? |
| 18:20.47 | z00dax | morsing: yes please |
| 18:20.56 | morsing | Yuck |
| 18:26.49 | Cope | seems fine |
| 18:27.59 | z00dax | ta ta |
| 18:29.59 | Leeds | okay, I just won Leonardo da Vinci the girl of his dreams (you know the painting he did of her) by making three blokes in black suits dance... |
| 18:30.08 | Leeds | this is a rather odd game :-) |
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| 18:38.36 | morsing | Leeds: Check it! |
| 18:51.47 | Leeds | and I just won a level by dancing to TMCA |
| 18:51.48 | Leeds | YMCA |
| 18:53.56 | morsing | Nice |
| 18:55.26 | morsing | Mmm... High Spam |
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| 19:06.52 | morsing | Gunde! |
| 19:10.02 | Gunde | morsing (: |
| 19:10.06 | Gunde | and good evening |
| 19:20.35 | morsing | I solved my procmail problem! |
| 19:29.55 | Gunde | I didnt even know you had one. |
| 19:32.27 | morsing | Gunde: I think everyone else did :) |
| 19:34.43 | eye69 | Evening |
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| 19:37.17 | zachary | evening eye69, gregj |
| 19:43.01 | morsing | eye69! |
| 19:44.32 | Gunde | morsing: That is what I get for only coming here outside my work hours. |
| 20:02.56 | murb | Gunde: because you work at work, unlike say morsing who spends all his time on irc? |
| 20:07.01 | Gunde | morsing: nah, but my boss at some point expressed his disliking of chatting. |
| 20:07.25 | Gunde | chatting in the sense of irc, instant messenging and the like |
| 20:08.40 | murb | i got busted for using the alegro cl ide in a computer center at uni because it look too like an IRC client... |
| 20:12.32 | Gunde | morsing: I think I dont understand most of your last sentence, could you please rephrase it? |
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| 22:48.31 | sabinef72 | someone around ? |
| 22:48.35 | sabinef72 | I have a question.... |
| 22:48.42 | popey | go ahead caller |
| 22:51.39 | boudiccas | what is your question oh? Green grow the rushes oh! |
| 22:52.26 | boudiccas | sabinef72; whats the question? |
| 22:52.51 | sabinef72 | thank you boudiccas but popey already answers me ! |
| 22:53.03 | boudiccas | k |
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| 23:13.51 | sabinef72 | well time for bed |
| 23:13.54 | sabinef72 | good night all |
| 23:16.13 | hali | night night |
| 23:32.33 | popey | nn |
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