| 00:00.01 | catalyst | yeah, I didn't quite make it =( |
| 00:00.09 | z00dax | did you get that sony vio thing going finally ? |
| 00:00.16 | Gunde | Nope. |
| 00:00.34 | Gunde | But the guy took an Ubuntu CD home and wants to try it on an IBM Thinkpad. |
| 00:00.48 | z00dax | Gunde: I had to leave midway through Tushar's talk :( friends from out of town landed up at my house... about 5 hrs earlier than they were supposed to have.. |
| 00:01.03 | Gunde | His problem was that the CD drive is attached to a PCMCIA card that doesnt get recognised before the OS boots up. |
| 00:01.18 | Gunde | So he would actually have to boot from a floppy that contains appropriate drivers. |
| 00:01.28 | z00dax | i was wondering, did he have a network interface ? maybe we could have booted his machine from there, or done something like that |
| 00:01.45 | z00dax | I had to get a network installer going on my laptop ( to install on trousers's laptop ) |
| 00:01.51 | Gunde | This little vaio has no interfaces, I have the older version of it. |
| 00:02.03 | z00dax | :( |
| 00:02.07 | Gunde | It has an IR port, a USB port and one card slot. |
| 00:02.28 | z00dax | card slot...... that sounds interesting :) maybe a pcmcia ethernet ... |
| 00:02.41 | Gunde | I dont think it would do any network install, bios didnt allow any setting like that. |
| 00:03.03 | Gunde | Yes, I have a pcmcia ethernet card. You can get USB to ethernet adapters though. |
| 00:04.20 | z00dax | there is a way you can trick either grub/lilo or windows ntloader to start the installer locally, then you dont need a pxe or network enabled bios at all |
| 00:04.22 | Gunde | I wonder if it would have worked with an original Sony CD drive. |
| 00:04.29 | sabinef72 | night night all |
| 00:04.36 | z00dax | it might have, maybe. but what are the chances of finding that.. |
| 00:04.38 | Gunde | goodnight |
| 00:04.39 | z00dax | sabinef72: ta |
| 00:04.55 | Gunde | Erm, I have a Sony CD drive here at home. (: |
| 00:04.57 | sabinef72 | ta ? |
| 00:05.03 | sabinef72 | what does it mea z00dax ? |
| 00:05.22 | z00dax | sabinef72: just a sound :) |
| 00:05.35 | z00dax | Gunde: does it still work ? after all these years ? |
| 00:05.46 | sabinef72 | well... time for bed |
| 00:05.48 | sabinef72 | bye all |
| 00:05.50 | sabinef72 | see you |
| 00:05.51 | z00dax | bye |
| 00:06.35 | z00dax | my cd/dvd-rom drives have a very high fatality rate |
| 00:07.19 | Gunde | z00dax: I got it from somebody who had got it off Ebay and didnt actually need it. When I tested it it worked. |
| 00:08.20 | z00dax | Gunde: do you know what cpu that has ? |
| 00:08.54 | z00dax | if it has a Crusoe chip, and if you dont use it / need it - I might be interested in borrowing that ... |
| 00:10.21 | Gunde | Borrowing the vaio, the cpu, the cd drive? |
| 00:10.54 | z00dax | err.. i will need something that runs that cpu :) so the device yes |
| 00:11.49 | Gunde | I am still not sure you are referring to the cd drive with "device" (: |
| 00:12.24 | Gunde | the vaio I couldnt give away as it isnt officially mine. |
| 00:15.55 | z00dax | no, dont need the cd drive at all.. |
| 00:16.10 | z00dax | i just want a computer that runs a transmeta chip |
| 00:16.26 | z00dax | i cant seem to locate one anywhere, maybe ebay is a potential source |
| 00:20.18 | rhowe | z00dax: Someone at work had a little mini sony vaio which was crusoe-based |
| 00:20.58 | rhowe | model number ended in -U1 I think |
| 00:21.04 | z00dax | rhowe: would they feel sad, if they lost it :) |
| 00:21.38 | z00dax | rhowe: and why were you not doing your duty to the country today ? |
| 00:21.49 | rhowe | z00dax: Probably - he's our ex chairman and has moved on up the group heirarchy |
| 00:22.11 | z00dax | what if you ask him nicely :) |
| 00:22.13 | rhowe | z00dax: I slept until 1:30pm (must be the drugs) and then didn't do much :P |
| 00:22.38 | rhowe | z00dax: Ear infection is pissing me off. Hopefully it will have started to calm down next week |
| 00:22.55 | z00dax | your' doing drugs now ? |
| 00:22.57 | z00dax | ah |
| 00:23.12 | rhowe | z00dax: Not to mention that I shouldn't drink whilst on the antibiotics |
| 00:23.30 | rhowe | z00dax: Sounds like it was a good day though |
| 00:23.39 | rhowe | z00dax: Did you sign up for the BBC Backstage thing yet? |
| 00:24.06 | z00dax | i am on their lists, but not looked at it in a long time |
| 00:24.10 | z00dax | what am i looking for ? |
| 00:24.20 | rhowe | The Christmas party on the 9th Dec |
| 00:25.29 | z00dax | right, signed up for that - the details were posted to gllug list too! |
| 00:25.39 | rhowe | yep |
| 00:26.43 | z00dax | never been to the cuban bar/club - might be interesting |
| 00:52.10 | wethrin | rarrr |
| 00:52.30 | iTron | Eek! |
| 00:52.51 | z00dax | a wethrin ! |
| 00:53.42 | z00dax | and an iTron in the shadows |
| 00:53.56 | iTron | As always ;) |
| 00:54.21 | wethrin | z00dax! |
| 00:55.03 | z00dax | i have friends over, and with them came some exceptionally crazy ( in a good way ) Columbian chocolates. |
| 00:55.16 | z00dax | it appears that cocain is not the only thing they produce out there |
| 00:55.55 | z00dax | s/cocain/cocaine/ |
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| 02:42.12 | z00dax | ibot: wake up trousers |
| 02:42.14 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up trousers and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 02:43.32 | *** part/#gllug Gunde (n=spamyous@82.153.170.213) |
| 02:47.49 | morsing | 'morning |
| 02:49.11 | z00dax | morsing: morning |
| 02:49.16 | z00dax | up early ? |
| 02:49.23 | z00dax | or up late ? |
| 03:00.18 | Leeds | early, I'd wager |
| 03:20.40 | morsing | Early. Can't sleep |
| 03:25.03 | morsing | How are you Leeds? |
| 03:28.20 | Leeds | not bad... better than I was :-) |
| 03:29.12 | z00dax | zzz time |
| 03:31.53 | morsing | Leeds: ? |
| 03:34.41 | Leeds | feeling less paranoid, and had a nice night out last night |
| 03:36.14 | morsing | Nice. I had an argument with my friend yesterday. Just noticed he sent me a long email about it shortly after. |
| 03:40.14 | Leeds | positive or negative email? |
| 03:41.29 | Leeds | oh, and about the random IRCing last night - the point was that I wasn't imaging it, and at least some of my paranoid theories were actually correct - which, weirdly, makes me feel better... |
| 03:42.29 | morsing | Well, positive actually but he's really tired of my paranoia |
| 03:42.51 | Kitty | its at times like this, I regret having paranoia on hilight |
| 03:42.55 | Kitty | twice |
| 03:44.24 | Leeds | Kitty: why do you have paranoia on highlight? and why are you awake? :-) |
| 03:45.56 | Kitty | for a short while I irc'd as paranoia |
| 03:46.03 | Kitty | and I am awake cos I am an insomniac |
| 03:46.13 | Leeds | fair enough |
| 03:46.14 | Kitty | 03:46 3 paranoia |
| 03:46.14 | Kitty | 03:46 4 paranoia |
| 03:46.27 | Kitty | why I have it in my hilight list twice, I don't know |
| 03:47.11 | Leeds | just to make sure? |
| 03:48.41 | Kitty | maybe |
| 05:13.52 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 05:14.17 | Leeds | yes |
| 05:14.34 | morsing | Are you still up? |
| 05:14.55 | Leeds | uh, yes... it's 1pm |
| 05:15.15 | morsing | Cool. Lunch? |
| 05:16.41 | Leeds | nope... playing a bit of DS, then got some stuff to do, then to the gym, then to the cinema |
| 05:17.04 | Leeds | look at http://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/static/sunset.jpg and http://www.flickr.com/photos/quentin747/293675380/ |
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| 08:32.25 | trousers | z00dax? |
| 08:40.36 | trousers | Anybody know where I can get some decent Yum repositories for CentOS? |
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| 08:53.37 | mozrat | Morning Gunder |
| 08:53.40 | mozrat | s/r// |
| 08:53.50 | mozrat | No I didn't. |
| 08:53.55 | mozrat | I'll start again |
| 08:53.58 | mozrat | Gunde!! |
| 08:55.06 | Gunde | Good morning (: |
| 08:55.15 | Gunde | We missed you at the pub, mozrat |
| 08:55.38 | mozrat | yeah, sorry. I had to help rebuild the lab and reinstall.. and then some guy collared me about his server |
| 08:55.56 | mozrat | I needed a beer as well - was the pub fun? |
| 08:56.10 | Gunde | That is what Caroline suspected. But you could let us help you. |
| 08:56.28 | Gunde | Yes, we got the meeting room downstairs all for ourselves. |
| 08:56.34 | mozrat | *shrug* |
| 08:56.39 | mozrat | it was no problem |
| 08:56.49 | mozrat | oh good - they refurbished the pub recently |
| 08:57.01 | Gunde | I was told it didnt look much different upstairs. |
| 08:57.12 | mozrat | oh? |
| 08:57.46 | Gunde | But the room downstairs seems to have changed a lot. |
| 08:57.46 | mozrat | Did you enjoy your first GLLUG meeting? They aren't normally that manically busy |
| 08:59.14 | Gunde | Yes, I enjoyed it. And it was good that I in the end had time enough to install Ubuntu on my machine although this vaio was so time-consuming. |
| 09:00.00 | Gunde | And the pub afterwards was nice too, I left around 21:30, and it was still quite busy. |
| 09:00.06 | mozrat | yeah, it isn't so cool to get stuck on an impossible task |
| 09:02.05 | Gunde | Were you able to sort out the server then? |
| 09:03.29 | mozrat | nope |
| 09:03.37 | mozrat | he lives near me |
| 09:03.44 | mozrat | so I said he could drop it around sometime |
| 09:05.11 | Gunde | But.. but... if he drops it than there is no sense on working on it any more! |
| 09:05.17 | Gunde | (-; |
| 09:05.57 | mozrat | :-) |
| 09:06.05 | mozrat | It might do me a favour if he drops it |
| 09:07.06 | Gunde | Was that the person whose contractors had nicked all the paid-for licences? |
| 09:08.04 | mozrat | yep |
| 09:08.17 | mozrat | I wasn't really sure of the situation |
| 09:08.28 | mozrat | they stole his Windows licences so he wants to go for Linux? |
| 09:08.51 | Gunde | I think so, yes. |
| 09:09.21 | mozrat | ugh |
| 09:09.26 | Gunde | The licences have as the contractors left, plus they had not fixed his machine. |
| 09:09.27 | mozrat | not an ideal situation |
| 09:09.31 | Gunde | But he cannot prove it. |
| 09:09.44 | mozrat | I don't want to get involved in this |
| 09:09.57 | Gunde | Involved in what, licences? |
| 09:10.01 | mozrat | he sounded like a "dude, fix my computer" kind of guy |
| 09:10.19 | mozrat | no - I suspect he'll be hassling me forever for little jobs |
| 09:10.29 | mozrat | when we have the mailing list for such things |
| 09:11.53 | Gunde | He said he wasn't able to afford a new set of licences so now he would have to go for linux. |
| 09:13.10 | mozrat | Doesn't make any sense. If he has proof of purchase he should go to Microsoft and get new licence keys |
| 09:13.22 | mozrat | unless he bought them from a dodgy person |
| 09:15.34 | Gunde | I wasnt sure about the licencing regulations here in the UK as they partially differ from the ones in Germany. |
| 09:15.59 | Gunde | eg it is possible to buy OEM versions unbundled. |
| 09:16.55 | mozrat | No, I don't believe it is |
| 09:17.31 | Gunde | I know that here it isnt. |
| 09:18.23 | mozrat | So, if he bought illegal licences and then got ripped off... I'm not sure he is ever going to be happy with Linux |
| 09:18.37 | mozrat | he isn't using it because he wants to.. see what I mean? |
| 09:19.24 | Gunde | It would be unlucky for him if he had kept his proof of purchase together with the licences. And as I dont know the background I wont judge anything. |
| 09:20.10 | mozrat | me either |
| 09:20.20 | Gunde | I can see though what you mean. |
| 09:20.42 | mozrat | I think I'll get him to sign off what he wants.. File server with usre authentication and some documentation and then give it back to him and say "good luck" |
| 09:27.44 | mozrat | Gunde: did you help the Muslim woman in the headscarf install Debian? |
| 09:29.49 | Gunde | No, she had been helped by somebody else in general. I just explained to her the install question about grub writing into the MBR. |
| 09:30.18 | mozrat | k |
| 09:34.38 | Gunde | Why do you ask? |
| 09:37.01 | mozrat | just wondering |
| 09:41.26 | mozrat | I think she studies at the Uni and I was keen that she got her answers |
| 09:44.08 | mozrat | ibot wake leeds |
| 09:44.23 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on leeds and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 09:46.35 | mozrat | hey AndrewBlack |
| 09:47.25 | trousers | mozrat! |
| 09:54.27 | mozrat | hey |
| 09:54.29 | mozrat | http://gllug.org.uk/index.php?/archives/30-Review-Novembers-GLLUG-Meeting.html |
| 09:59.38 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 10:00.51 | trousers | Morning |
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| 10:16.38 | morsing | eye69! |
| 10:16.49 | morsing | sabinef721 |
| 10:16.52 | morsing | ! |
| 10:17.40 | sabinef72 | 721 ? my god ! |
| 10:17.45 | morsing | :) |
| 10:17.48 | sabinef72 | how are you morsing |
| 10:17.52 | morsing | :( |
| 10:17.53 | sabinef72 | I don't want to be so old ! |
| 10:24.31 | trousers | Deal with it -_- |
| 10:30.06 | Gunde | morsing: Feeling any better today? |
| 10:31.48 | morsing | Gunde: A bit |
| 10:31.50 | morsing | You? |
| 10:31.56 | trousers | Ich habe zu viel Hausaufgaben :'( |
| 10:33.04 | trousers | But it turns out that I'm getting my full internet service of 10Mb/s \o/ |
| 10:34.26 | Gunde | morsing: A lot better. |
| 10:34.27 | z00dax | trousers: wiki.centos.org/Repositories |
| 10:34.32 | Gunde | trousers: brauchst du Hilfe? |
| 10:34.38 | z00dax | good morning people! |
| 10:35.08 | trousers | Gunde: Aber nicht Deutsche Haufaufgabe |
| 10:35.12 | Gunde | good morning z00dax |
| 10:35.24 | z00dax | dont make me load up google.com/translate |
| 10:35.26 | Gunde | trousers: Na und? |
| 10:38.05 | trousers | Das Hausaufgabe nicht schwierig ist aber es lang ist. |
| 10:38.23 | trousers | Und entschuldigung fuer mein nicht-so-gut Deutsch |
| 10:43.01 | trousers | z00dax: Cheers |
| 10:44.37 | z00dax | trousers: each of the repo's has a means to setup, make sure you read up on that :) |
| 10:44.57 | trousers | I'm just setting up rpmforge for the time being |
| 10:45.55 | z00dax | ok that works, you might also want to look at my repo at centos.karan.org, but i dont have any non-free legally grey stuff |
| 10:46.01 | z00dax | for that you need rpmforge :) |
| 10:47.52 | trousers | z00dax: I really just need ndiswrapper to being ;) |
| 10:48.16 | z00dax | build that from source |
| 10:48.27 | trousers | s/ing/gin |
| 10:48.35 | z00dax | yum install kernel-devel; and then build ndiswrapper from source |
| 10:48.46 | z00dax | its one of those things thats really hard to package up properly. |
| 10:48.47 | trousers | Ahh, that's the package I need to compile it |
| 10:48.59 | z00dax | also, i hope you did the yum update; |
| 10:49.16 | trousers | 5011 packages *sigh* |
| 10:49.57 | z00dax | what ? |
| 10:50.01 | z00dax | you broke something! |
| 10:50.16 | z00dax | yum update is listing 5011 package to update ? |
| 10:50.34 | trousers | No... It just was checking something like 5011 packages |
| 10:50.47 | z00dax | right, rpmforge has lots of stuff. |
| 10:51.37 | trousers | I also have 2 people in the year above me at school running Linux \o/ |
| 10:52.22 | trousers | lspci still brings up no card, however |
| 10:52.55 | z00dax | service pcmcia start; |
| 10:53.41 | trousers | Still nothing |
| 10:54.39 | z00dax | email me your lspci -v; output |
| 10:54.51 | z00dax | is there even a pcmcia controller thats being detected ? |
| 10:58.41 | trousers | Not that I can see |
| 10:58.41 | z00dax | humm.. no its not |
| 10:58.41 | z00dax | there are the 2 unknown ones that might be it |
| 10:58.45 | z00dax | but, i need to rush off now - the bbc good food show awaits |
| 10:58.57 | z00dax | I'll do some poking around with this when I get back |
| 10:59.00 | trousers | Cheers |
| 11:19.14 | trousers | z00dax: It picks up my PCMCIA cd drive fine :S |
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| 11:26.46 | morsing | JohnDoe666! |
| 11:28.05 | sabinef72 | well I'm hungry |
| 11:28.10 | sabinef72 | who is the cooker today ? |
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| 11:37.10 | trousers_laptop | Argh, need to find my old crappy wireless USB dongle |
| 11:37.18 | trousers_laptop | Far too obtrusive, though |
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| 12:57.26 | boudicca | I've just had a j/d go off line and i now can't access anything on it. when i unmnount it and run 'fsck' against it I get this error report ..'./fsck /dev/hdb |
| 12:57.26 | boudicca | fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) |
| 12:57.27 | boudicca | e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) |
| 12:57.27 | boudicca | fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdb |
| 12:57.27 | boudicca | Could this be a zero-length partition?' How and where should i deal with this problem please? |
| 12:57.36 | boudicca | *h/d |
| 13:12.01 | goibhniu | hi boudicca I had the same thing myself during the week |
| 13:12.23 | boudicca | how do we then resolve the problem please? |
| 13:12.30 | goibhniu | you can do something like mke2fs -n /dev/hdb (check first) |
| 13:12.44 | goibhniu | and that will tell you about backup superblocks or something |
| 13:13.05 | goibhniu | for me it was weird though ... I rebooted and then I could run a normal fsck |
| 13:13.30 | goibhniu | I'll see if I can find the solution I was looking at .. 1 sec |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | ./mke2fs -n /dev/hdb1 |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | Filesystem label= |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | OS type: Linux |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | Block size=4096 (log=2) |
| 13:13.55 | boudicca | Fragment size=4096 (log=2) |
| 13:13.57 | boudicca | 19546112 inodes, 39072080 blocks |
| 13:13.59 | boudicca | 1953604 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user |
| 13:14.01 | boudicca | First data block=0 |
| 13:14.06 | boudicca | Maximum filesystem blocks=41943040 |
| 13:14.08 | goibhniu | http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/topic/1475 |
| 13:14.08 | boudicca | 1193 block groups |
| 13:14.10 | boudicca | 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group |
| 13:14.12 | boudicca | 16384 inodes per group |
| 13:14.21 | boudicca | Superblock backups stored on blocks: |
| 13:14.23 | boudicca | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.25 | boudicca | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.39 | goibhniu | try e2fsck - b 32768 /dev/hdb1 |
| 13:15.15 | goibhniu | oops! that page is in dutch |
| 13:15.35 | goibhniu | sound like the exact same things though |
| 13:18.08 | rhowe | boudicca: Check your kernel messages |
| 13:18.21 | rhowe | boudicca: See what size the disk was detected as |
| 13:18.27 | rhowe | boudicca: Check for I/O errors, too |
| 13:18.46 | rhowe | boudicca: Are you sure the filesystem is on /dev/hdb and not a partition on hdb? (e.g. hdb1, hdb2, etc) |
| 13:19.05 | boudicca | dev/hdb1 |
| 13:20.33 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device hdb1, logical block 21645641 |
| 13:20.33 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on hdb1 |
| 13:20.33 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 173165199 |
| 13:20.33 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device hdb1, logical block 21645642 |
| 13:20.35 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on |
| 13:21.07 | rhowe | Doesn't sound good for the drive - does it support SMART? smartctl -a /dev/hdb |
| 13:21.43 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 176000815 |
| 13:21.43 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 176000823 |
| 13:21.43 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 176000831 |
| 13:21.43 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 176000839 |
| 13:21.43 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 111 |
| 13:21.44 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device hdb1, logical block 6 |
| 13:21.46 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:43:21 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on hdb1 |
| 13:23.00 | rhowe | Looks like you've got a dead drive (or a misconfiguration, cabling fault, etc) |
| 13:23.18 | boudicca | smartctl also fails |
| 13:23.45 | boudicca | this drive is only about two months old! it can't fail on me! |
| 13:23.49 | rhowe | Look right up in the kernel logs, back to where the drives were detected. Did the kernel manage to read the partition table? |
| 13:23.54 | rhowe | boudicca: Oh I assure you it can :) |
| 13:24.12 | rhowe | hda: ST313640A, ATA DISK drive |
| 13:24.18 | rhowe | hda: max request size: 128KiB |
| 13:24.18 | rhowe | hda: 26562500 sectors (13600 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=26351/16/63, UDMA(33) |
| 13:24.18 | rhowe | hda: cache flushes not supported hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 > |
| 13:24.26 | rhowe | You should have something a bit like that in your logs |
| 13:25.00 | Leeds | bang |
| 13:25.08 | rhowe | pop |
| 13:25.21 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:41:50 localhost kernel: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x71 { DriveReady DeviceFault SeekComplete Error } |
| 13:25.21 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:41:50 localhost kernel: hdb: dma_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } |
| 13:25.21 | boudicca | Nov 12 12:41:50 localhost kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| 13:25.37 | boudicca | seems to be the first mention of the problem |
| 13:25.39 | rhowe | boudicca: Did you change anything? |
| 13:26.22 | boudicca | nope, it was all just running, and suddenly i get an error message saying that there was an i/o error from the bittorrent program |
| 13:26.23 | rhowe | boudicca: look further up (or in /var/log/dmesg, if you have it) - there should be mention of the drives being detected during bootup |
| 13:26.42 | rhowe | boudicca: Then it sounds to me like a dead disk |
| 13:27.25 | goibhniu | maybe something like spinrite would help? |
| 13:27.26 | rhowe | boudicca: Use dd_rescue to get what you can off of it, and then RMA it (if it's 2 months old, it should be still under warranty - I don't think even Maxtor have reduced their standard warranty to under 2 months yet :) |
| 13:27.59 | boudicca | hdb: Maxtor 6G160P0, ATA DISK drive |
| 13:27.59 | boudicca | Using cfq io scheduler |
| 13:27.59 | boudicca | ide0 at 0x9800-0x9807,0x9c02 on irq 185 |
| 13:27.59 | boudicca | Probing IDE interface ide1... |
| 13:30.48 | boudicca | i'll try rebooting, just in the off chance |
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| 13:36.18 | rhowe | Chances of boudicca's PC hanging in the BIOS? :) |
| 13:36.40 | goibhniu | ouch |
| 13:37.01 | goibhniu | man, I'm having nothing but hardware problems recently too |
| 13:38.14 | goibhniu | the new thing today is that my laptop, which is standing in for my dead motherboard is dying intermittantly, without any excuse :( |
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| 13:43.41 | boudiccas | well rebooting didn't help, so atm its commented out in fstab |
| 13:44.01 | boudiccas | now to investugate dd-rescue |
| 13:44.28 | boudiccas | any other help or ideas would be gratefully received please :)? |
| 13:46.30 | Leeds | advice: get as much data off that drive as you can, and bin it |
| 13:47.50 | boudiccas | need to eat first |
| 13:57.50 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 13:58.27 | boudiccas | yes morsing i'm having problems with a dead/dying disc |
| 13:58.35 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:58.44 | boudiccas | not :( |
| 13:59.07 | boudiccas | got to find out how can i get info off the disc |
| 14:02.51 | morsing | Leeds: How was te cinema? |
| 14:03.11 | Leeds | interesting... |
| 14:03.50 | Leeds | moving, and in Polish and German with English subtitles... apparently they did a transfer of the film to DVD just for the festival, so they're got the only DVD copy in the world |
| 14:03.51 | morsing | ? |
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| 14:04.03 | morsing | gregj! |
| 14:04.11 | Leeds | speaking of Polish :-) |
| 14:06.47 | morsing | Mmm... Lemsip |
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| 14:07.52 | morsing | xotl! |
| 14:08.06 | xotl | good afternoon |
| 14:12.06 | Leeds | it's 10pm! |
| 14:16.46 | morsing | Is it? |
| 14:17.11 | Leeds | well, no... it's about quarter past |
| 14:17.38 | morsing | Nice |
| 14:20.16 | boudiccas | can't get ddrescue working because i can't mount the disc, i'm fscked! :( |
| 14:21.19 | serris | hi all |
| 14:21.23 | morsing | serris! |
| 14:21.28 | serris | morsing! |
| 14:21.32 | serris | How's your weekend going? |
| 14:21.40 | Leeds | have you tried stuff like setting the drive back to a low PIO speed? sometimes, that might be able to help, I think |
| 14:22.04 | morsing | serris: Crrap |
| 14:22.19 | serris | That sucks. I'm actually quite happy today |
| 14:22.39 | morsing | Good for you... |
| 14:22.50 | serris | Me and one manager are going to piss the other manager off next week and put him in a bit of a pickle, I did aload of gardening so it's all goind swell |
| 14:23.03 | serris | going* |
| 14:23.25 | sabinef72 | good luck serris |
| 14:23.45 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 14:23.48 | serris | Thanks sabinef72 |
| 14:23.52 | morsing | Does people like SpudUlike and Tarragon still go to the Gllug meets? |
| 14:24.00 | sabinef72 | Leeds: I still received nothing.... |
| 14:24.09 | serris | Did you go to the meet yesterday, morsing ? |
| 14:24.13 | morsing | serris: No |
| 14:24.19 | serris | Nor did I |
| 14:24.20 | morsing | I should have I suppose |
| 14:24.27 | serris | How come your weekend's going crpa? |
| 14:24.28 | serris | crap |
| 14:24.33 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 14:24.44 | serris | Same ol'? |
| 14:24.47 | morsing | Yes... |
| 14:25.03 | Leeds | sabinef72: :-( |
| 14:25.19 | serris | Yeah, my weekend started not so good. I got jipped on taxes |
| 14:25.22 | sabinef72 | Leeds: did you post it ? |
| 14:25.25 | serris | gipped* |
| 14:26.28 | Leeds | sabinef72: yes, of course - on the island |
| 14:26.32 | rhowe | wtf? |
| 14:26.49 | rhowe | A 12 year old just knocked on the door and offered "rugs & duvets going cheap, can I do you a deal on one?" |
| 14:27.02 | sabinef72 | Leeds: I mean when ? |
| 14:27.15 | sabinef72 | rhowe: lol |
| 14:27.17 | Leeds | rhowe: do you know EBA? |
| 14:27.35 | rhowe | Leeds: Nope |
| 14:27.59 | Leeds | you should! |
| 14:29.30 | Leeds | sabinef72: whenever it was I took those pictures rhowe kindly published for me - that evening |
| 14:30.13 | sabinef72 | perhpas 15 days ago ? |
| 14:30.29 | sabinef72 | perhaps it's not enought |
| 14:30.30 | Leeds | 10, maybe |
| 14:30.37 | rhowe | Leeds: What is EBA? |
| 14:30.52 | sabinef72 | yes what is EBA ? |
| 14:31.09 | Leeds | hang on |
| 14:32.03 | Leeds | closest thing to DDR with a stylus |
| 14:32.20 | Leeds | but with a very funny in places, very silly in places, very moving in a couple of places story |
| 14:33.37 | Leeds | hence trying to save the world by dancing along to Jumping Jack Flash - at this point, aliens have taken over the world, banned all music, turned the Elite Beat Agents to stone, and it's all down to a little girl who's missing her dead daddy to rouse the people of earth to rouse the EBA to fight the aliens |
| 14:36.20 | rhowe | heh |
| 14:36.25 | rhowe | It's Japanese, isn't it? :P |
| 14:36.47 | Leeds | this is the newly-released US edition |
| 14:37.07 | Leeds | but yes, it's the US edition of a very Japanese game :-) |
| 14:38.30 | Leeds | complete with manga-style cut-scenes done as comic sequences |
| 14:39.37 | morsing | rhowe: Register |
| 14:39.58 | Leeds | sabinef72: it should come in maybe 4/5 days |
| 14:40.50 | morsing | Leeds: And mine? |
| 14:41.00 | Leeds | morsing: no postcard for you |
| 14:41.51 | morsing | :( |
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| 14:49.28 | Leeds | oh, and I won - killed the alien s |
| 14:56.33 | mozrat | hey leeds |
| 14:57.13 | Leeds | evening mozzie |
| 14:58.34 | mozrat | Did you hear about our problems yesterday at GLLUG? |
| 14:59.10 | Leeds | too many people? |
| 14:59.17 | mozrat | yep - way too many |
| 14:59.32 | mozrat | we had the lab downstairs from 1330 to 1530 |
| 14:59.44 | mozrat | I think we averaged about 50-60 people in the lab at any one time |
| 14:59.56 | Leeds | very nice :-) |
| 14:59.58 | mozrat | it was too packed, hot and people couldn't find anyone to help answer questions |
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| 15:00.18 | mozrat | We counted 70ish people at Rogers talk, slightly less for Tushars |
| 15:00.45 | mozrat | We probably had about 100 in total for the day if you counted every individual |
| 15:00.55 | Leeds | sorry I couldn't be there to help... |
| 15:01.13 | mozrat | no worries - we had some excellent people helping out, but everyone was mobbed |
| 15:02.07 | mozrat | Off to see my mum down the road.. be back later |
| 15:02.13 | mozrat | Leeds: some photos on gllug.org.uk |
| 15:02.14 | Leeds | seeya |
| 15:02.17 | mozrat | ta-ra |
| 15:07.26 | morsing | Leeds: Bedtime? |
| 15:07.32 | Leeds | 11pm |
| 15:07.40 | morsing | So? |
| 15:08.12 | Leeds | so too early for bed |
| 15:08.32 | Leeds | even though I'm knackered |
| 15:09.11 | Leeds | also, I have a very large Starbucks drink here, which I'm tempted to put in the fridge and leave for breakfast |
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| 15:13.18 | morsing | Cold coffee? |
| 15:19.02 | Leeds | yes |
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| 15:35.26 | Leeds | boudiccas: having any luck? |
| 15:36.23 | morsing | mozrat! |
| 15:36.30 | mozrat | My Dad is an aspiring hacker and has bought PHP/MySQL books |
| 15:36.42 | mozrat | Gawd knows why he wants to learn PHP |
| 15:36.45 | mozrat | hey morsing |
| 15:36.50 | mozrat | Missed you yesterday :( |
| 15:36.54 | serris | mozrat! |
| 15:36.55 | Leeds | so you still have a chance to fix him? |
| 15:36.57 | mozrat | yo! |
| 15:36.59 | sabinef72 | mozrat: |
| 15:37.02 | mozrat | Leeds: possibly |
| 15:37.05 | mozrat | sabinef72!!! |
| 15:37.07 | mozrat | hello there! |
| 15:37.19 | boudiccas | Leeds; nope, i can only load the spinrite program under wine and then there isn't any feedback from the program because menus don't appear, control buttons don't have any text on them or near them, in truth its zero feedback from the program, making it totally unusable |
| 15:37.41 | serris | mozrat: does he use linux too? |
| 15:37.42 | mozrat | I've installed apache, php and mysql on windows locally... I've now convinced him Linux is a much nicer platform to learn this stuf on |
| 15:37.53 | mozrat | serris: as soon as this DVD burns he will be |
| 15:37.59 | Leeds | boudiccas: I have to say that if you're trying to get important data back, running a recovery tool under wine probably isn't such a great idea |
| 15:38.08 | serris | heh I gave an ubuntu 6.06.1 disk to my manager to try |
| 15:38.51 | boudiccas | agreed but i'll attempt anything because atm i can't even manually mount the disc, it seems totally dead |
| 15:39.02 | mozrat | serris: any feedback? |
| 15:39.54 | boudiccas | serris; i handed in the form on Thursday, when should i expect to hear back from them? If i do hear from them at all! |
| 15:40.18 | serris | Not yet. He's waiting for his 7 nights in a row to finish so he has some time off to play with it. He works I think 12-13 hours a night so he needs off time to try it |
| 15:40.41 | serris | Should hear back from them within a week or two depending on their personal staff |
| 15:40.52 | boudiccas | serris; ty |
| 15:40.55 | serris | I'm getting fed up with Sainsbury's |
| 15:41.31 | serris | Day shift don't do their job, they make my life harder so I told my manager that I don't care anymore what state I leave aisles in cause I'm not wasting an hour sorting day shifts mistakes out |
| 15:41.55 | serris | I'm looking at a jobwith another company fixing the tills at supermarkets |
| 15:42.41 | serris | What job did you apply for? |
| 15:43.05 | boudiccas | serris; i left it blank |
| 15:43.16 | serris | What they will do is send you a letter back either for an interview or will say come in for an interview for another position if the one you applied for is not hireing |
| 15:43.20 | boudiccas | but filled in the rest |
| 15:43.25 | serris | Yeah |
| 15:43.41 | boudiccas | ah, ty |
| 15:43.56 | serris | I think they actually rang me before they sent me a letter |
| 15:44.04 | serris | And that was pretty fast. |
| 15:44.42 | serris | I applied late sept. and got the interview early october. After a great deal of hassle I was hired in November |
| 15:45.11 | boudiccas | thanks, it helps having some idea of the timescale involved |
| 15:45.22 | serris | : ) |
| 15:45.54 | serris | Well a lot of it is down to their personal staff or the managers. I think depending on what you're going for the different managers interview you |
| 15:46.59 | serris | I applied for nightshift but by the time my interview came up, they had no positions for night shift. So I got interviewed for an admin job during the day. I passed the interview and then a few days later got a call saying they are now hireing for night shift and if I'm still interested |
| 15:47.05 | boudiccas | i need the job to get the money to buy new bits for this computer, especially as my newest h/d has just died today and i've lost all the info on it |
| 15:47.20 | serris | So I went back, had a quick chat with the night shift manager and I got transfered to night shift before I even started my admin position |
| 15:47.37 | serris | The good thing isthat they pay you for your induction |
| 15:47.44 | Leeds | time for tea - green tea... |
| 15:48.15 | serris | Depending on your training officer the induction can last from 2-3 days |
| 15:48.34 | boudiccas | does each branch have its own training officer? |
| 15:48.34 | serris | Which you get payed for. Usually starts 8:30AM 'till whenever even if you are applying for nightshift |
| 15:48.38 | serris | yep |
| 15:48.40 | serris | They should |
| 15:48.46 | serris | I'm not sure about the metro ones |
| 15:48.49 | serris | but the big ones should |
| 15:49.00 | boudiccas | i'm outin the sticks, Maidstone |
| 15:49.16 | serris | Don't know about there but I'm pretty sure they do |
| 15:49.28 | serris | My inductions were from 8:30AM - 4:30PM |
| 15:49.36 | serris | With 30 minutes lunch |
| 15:49.38 | boudiccas | k |
| 15:49.40 | serris | unpayed sadly |
| 15:50.49 | serris | But since my induction was I think tuesday wednesday thursday and my shift was wednesday - sunday morning I started the next day |
| 15:51.00 | serris | And it wasn't fun I can tell you that |
| 15:51.00 | boudiccas | shiny :) |
| 15:51.46 | boudiccas | i've got my fingers crossed, and legs too in the hope of getting a job there |
| 15:52.06 | serris | Indeed. It's not bad. Christmas is coming up. Lots of OT especially on days |
| 15:52.23 | serris | I've got my spot for working the 24th and 25th of december |
| 15:53.14 | serris | triple pay pretty much so if I work 20 hours total on those two days plus an extra day for some more OT I should put away about 900 pounds that week |
| 15:55.19 | boudiccas | sounds good |
| 15:55.24 | serris | Indeed |
| 15:55.25 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:56.18 | serris | Well my manager estimated about 200 pounds a night each night on 24th and 25th. Add the extra about 100 pounds of OT and the base pay I'd get for that week should mount upto about that. They'll massacre me over taxes but I need the extra money |
| 15:56.33 | serris | I was going to work new years too but I think my wife isn't too fond of that idea |
| 16:03.29 | morsing | Beer |
| 16:03.58 | morsing | DCC? |
| 16:04.01 | morsing | ibot DCC |
| 16:04.02 | ibot | dcc is, like, a protocol used for sending files on IRC. <asuffield> I suggest burning all people who offer dcc connections |
| 16:04.04 | morsing | Thanks |
| 16:04.53 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:05.41 | serris | I have a bunch of beer in the fridge, some red wine and my grandpa's home made white wine on the counter, bottle of dark rum and bottle of lemon liquer too |
| 16:05.47 | serris | Way too much booze : ( |
| 16:06.02 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:06.10 | Leeds | morsing: please do not send me to everyone in the channel... |
| 16:06.28 | morsing | mozrat: When's the next meet |
| 16:06.49 | Leeds | morsing: you nasty person |
| 16:07.01 | morsing | :( |
| 16:07.27 | Leeds | morsing: he just put one together which was too successful... give him a day or two to recover :-) |
| 16:09.01 | morsing | ping mozrat |
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| 16:14.33 | morsing | JohnDoe666! |
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| 16:25.03 | morsing | First funny thing on Futurama ever :) (Well, second maybe) |
| 16:25.45 | Leeds | which is? |
| 16:26.48 | morsing | That robot thingy and his friend moved (back) into this "flat" which was a 1x2m metal box wit a light bulb in the corner |
| 16:27.19 | morsing | The human brings a plant and says "Do you think there's enough light for it in here" |
| 16:27.22 | Leeds | yes, Bender and Fry |
| 16:27.27 | Leeds | put it in the closet |
| 16:27.37 | morsing | Ahh... You've seen it :) |
| 16:27.41 | morsing | Mmm... Window |
| 16:27.50 | Leeds | I've seen every episode many times |
| 16:27.55 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:30.01 | Leeds | morning Kitty |
| 16:30.09 | morsing | Kitty! |
| 16:30.26 | Kitty | nfff |
| 16:34.27 | morsing | hjjj |
| 16:34.40 | rhowe | hm, bananas do not juice (at least, not in a centrifugal juicer) |
| 16:34.49 | morsing | rhowe: Mushrooms?? |
| 16:34.55 | rhowe | Instead, they produce a yellowish semen-like substance |
| 16:34.57 | morsing | rhowe: Register |
| 16:35.01 | morsing | Nice |
| 16:35.06 | rhowe | Register? |
| 16:35.24 | morsing | Yes like /msg nickserv rhowe or something |
| 16:35.33 | morsing | Can't remember exactly |
| 16:35.40 | rhowe | identified |
| 16:36.07 | morsing | rhowe: Still not working |
| 16:36.33 | Leeds | rhowe: I think you'll find they pulp |
| 16:36.37 | rhowe | 16:35 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Password accepted - you are now recognized |
| 16:36.43 | rhowe | Leeds: Yes, they do |
| 16:38.29 | Leeds | ibot Leeds is also a sexy alian |
| 16:38.31 | ibot | okay, Leeds |
| 16:39.22 | rhowe | hm.. I wonder if exiscan is the way to go for spam scanning with exim... |
| 16:40.23 | Leeds | I'm actually using two layers of SA - one run by exim at SMTP time, one run by procmail at delivery time |
| 16:40.46 | rhowe | I think I'd like to remove procmail from my mail setup |
| 16:41.02 | Leeds | I like procmail |
| 16:41.03 | rhowe | Maybe replace it with rules in exim |
| 16:41.20 | Leeds | I've been using procmail a lot longer than I've been using exim :-) |
| 16:42.16 | morsing | 16:35 -!- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you |
| 16:42.19 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.57 | rhowe | morsing: You need to register & identify, not me :P |
| 16:43.17 | Leeds | rhowe: I can talk to morsing |
| 16:43.33 | morsing | I can talk to everyone else |
| 16:43.58 | morsing | rhowe: You suck! |
| 16:44.57 | rhowe | morsing: /msg nickserv info |
| 16:45.01 | rhowe | morsing: What does nickserv say? |
| 16:45.14 | rhowe | 16:44 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: rhowe << ONLINE >> |
| 16:45.16 | rhowe | I get that |
| 16:45.44 | rhowe | 16:45 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: morsing |
| 16:45.44 | rhowe | 16:45 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 41 weeks 5 days (20h 25m 10s) ago |
| 16:45.47 | morsing | 16:45 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: morsing |
| 16:45.48 | rhowe | 16:45 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last Seen: 4 weeks 4 days (6h 44m 56s) ago |
| 16:45.53 | rhowe | Looks like you're not signed into nickserv |
| 16:45.59 | morsing | Weird |
| 16:46.02 | rhowe | /msg nickserv identify <password? |
| 16:51.54 | rhowe | After unpacking 180kB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 16:52.01 | rhowe | hmm.. it's hardly that much heavier than the -light :P |
| 16:53.42 | Leeds | wow, that's a nasty fart... and on that note - g'night |
| 16:58.27 | murb | hello |
| 17:00.17 | morsing | murb: |
| 17:01.09 | murb | very iformative |
| 17:01.12 | rhowe | z00dax: Looks like you just made the list for the BBC Backstage thing in time :P |
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| 17:58.32 | boudiccas | serris you here? |
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| 18:28.59 | morsing | gregj! |
| 18:37.02 | morsing | "Definately Mouton. Hang in there" |
| 18:51.29 | trousers | Howdy |
| 18:52.32 | morsing | trousers! |
| 19:08.21 | morsing | Nice |
| 19:08.23 | z00dax | rhowe: cool! |
| 19:08.38 | z00dax | morsing: it was, quite. specially all the wine and booze we ended up testing |
| 19:09.12 | murb | is anyone here running any of the various asterisk forks? |
| 19:19.40 | andrew___ | I don't know (whether anyone is running asterisk). |
| 19:20.07 | andrew___ | This is an alusion to the a conversation between a group of Maths students. |
| 19:20.44 | andrew___ | Q: does anyone want sugar A: I don't know - which means I don't want sugar but someone else might. |
| 19:21.40 | z00dax | murb: i ran asterisk itself, not a fork, for a while - have now sort of given up admin role for the box to to someone else... |
| 19:34.23 | z00dax | weekend tube service in london really sux |
| 19:56.58 | morsing | Beer |
| 19:57.58 | murb | z00dax: oh, i've got completely pissed off with the chan_sip implentnation and wondeirng if any of the forks hvae anything better. |
| 20:03.26 | morsing | murb: Nice |
| 21:05.33 | andrew___ | hi there |
| 21:06.01 | andrew___ | Sorry didnt make it to Gllug yesterday. Busy in day and too tired in evening |
| 21:15.25 | andrew___ | Anyone suggest a way of purging duplicate messages on an IMAP server |
| 21:15.56 | andrew___ | Duplicate == contents the same, some headers such as received might be difference. |
| 21:18.08 | Gunde | andrew___: There is a thunderbird plugin that can remove duplicate messages, but I have only tried it for pop3 so far. |
| 21:19.30 | Gunde | andrew___: https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/956/ (extension rather than plugin) |
| 21:38.09 | andrew___ | Thanks - will give it a look. |
| 21:38.45 | z00dax | write a mailwalker script, let it crawl from end to end and DELE uidl where it finds dupes :) |
| 21:39.00 | z00dax | and /or move to something like cyrusimapd which can be setup to reject dupes |
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| 22:11.50 | wethrin | hello! |
| 22:12.03 | z00dax | wethrin: ! |
| 22:12.18 | mozrat | hey guys |
| 22:12.19 | z00dax | wethrin: ever tried something called a Black Bottle ? |
| 22:13.13 | wethrin | No... |
| 22:13.23 | z00dax | mozrat: ! |
| 22:13.28 | mozrat | hey z00dax |
| 22:13.30 | z00dax | wethrin: its a 7 way blend.. |
| 22:13.42 | z00dax | and while I know you dont like your blends, try this one anyway |
| 22:14.01 | z00dax | mozrat: good meeting yesterday :) apologies for running away so early |
| 22:14.46 | mozrat | z00dax: no worries :-) |
| 22:15.20 | z00dax | so when's the next one :) |
| 22:15.35 | wethrin | z00dax: Hmm....give me a dram, and I'll take you to the SMWS |
| 22:16.14 | mozrat | z00dax: 7th December or 14th December |
| 22:16.27 | mozrat | Just confirming the speaker tomorrow |
| 22:16.49 | mozrat | yes, it's a Thursday.. no, I don't think a Saturday meet in december is a good idea |
| 22:17.03 | z00dax | was just looking... ok either works for me :) |
| 22:17.04 | mozrat | also, I want to organise a DbD demo in London in December so thats one Saturday gone |
| 22:18.02 | z00dax | DbD ? |
| 22:18.14 | mozrat | Defective By Design |
| 22:20.50 | wethrin | Should I semi-orgynise a Social meeting before Christmas, between Christmas and NEw Year, or after NEw Year? |
| 22:21.25 | mozrat | wethrin: I sent a mail to the list about a GLLUG Christmas do.. didn;t get a single response back |
| 22:21.38 | wethrin | I've not read the list recently *Ahem* |
| 22:21.41 | z00dax | wethrin: after new years, there is a 95% chance i wont be here |
| 22:21.43 | wethrin | But I think it's a good idea |
| 22:21.50 | wethrin | z00dax: Temporarily, or permanently? |
| 22:22.26 | mozrat | z00dax: what??? |
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| 22:32.56 | z00dax | yaya! |
| 22:32.56 | z00dax | netsplit! |
| 22:32.57 | mozrat | z00dax: bloody splitters |
| 22:32.58 | z00dax | wasent me, i didnt do it. |
| 22:32.58 | z00dax | is it just me or have others noticed a higher split/problem rate post-lilo |
| 22:32.58 | wethrin | not really |
| 22:32.58 | mozrat | I haven't noticed.. splits were common whilst lilo was around |
| 22:32.59 | z00dax | someone did stats the other day, aparently the weekly rate is at double from what it was last year |
| 22:32.59 | mozrat | oh |
| 22:32.59 | z00dax | but then, stats are just stats |
| 22:32.59 | mozrat | yeah, 95% of people think stats are made up |
| 22:32.59 | z00dax | my degree is in stats! |
| 22:33.22 | wethrin | z00dax: And now you're a sysadmin :) |
| 22:33.22 | z00dax | I would have done math pure, but there were too many kids already there in math, stats was nice. 5 of us through 3 years :) |
| 22:33.43 | z00dax | wethrin: ja! |
| 22:33.43 | wethrin | :) |
| 22:34.11 | z00dax | but i did do 4 years of junk mail stuff, used pretty much every thing in the books from univ |
| 22:35.38 | z00dax | mozrat: going for the bbc backstage dinner ? |
| 22:35.47 | mozrat | z00dax: on the 9th? |
| 22:35.55 | z00dax | yea |
| 22:36.03 | z00dax | http://www.geekdinner.co.uk/ |
| 22:36.21 | mozrat | z00dax: no, I'm going to be at home commeriserating another lost year in my life |
| 22:36.30 | mozrat | plus, GLLUG weren't invited *scowl* |
| 22:36.31 | z00dax | humm |
| 22:36.46 | z00dax | do we have any official GLLUG T-shirts ? |
| 22:36.47 | mozrat | I'll be in my late 30's on the 9th |
| 22:36.57 | z00dax | is 9th the day ? |
| 22:37.03 | mozrat | z00dax: nope. We *very* nearly did a month ago |
| 22:37.21 | z00dax | maybe we should - but lets get som decent polo sort of t-shirts |
| 22:37.25 | mozrat | Novell nearly sponsored them for us.. in a way fortunate they didn't given the recent news :-) |
| 22:37.33 | mozrat | 9th is the day yeah |
| 22:37.33 | z00dax | true |
| 22:37.45 | wethrin | mozrat: Social sort of were/weren't |
| 22:37.57 | mozrat | wethrin: how so? |
| 22:38.46 | wethrin | mozrat: Social gets the London.pm-announce mails |
| 22:38.54 | mozrat | wethrin: true |
| 22:42.48 | sabinef72 | bed ! |
| 22:42.51 | sabinef72 | good night all |
| 22:43.02 | mozrat | nn! |
| 22:43.37 | sabinef72 | what ? |
| 22:43.43 | sabinef72 | no kiss to say me "good night" ? |
| 22:43.58 | mozrat | kiss kiss! |
| 22:44.00 | mozrat | ibot kiss sabinef72 |
| 22:44.02 | ibot | ACTION forces sabinef72 to give Lottokim_ a big kiss on the neck |
| 22:44.38 | sabinef72 | now I'll have good dreams |
| 22:44.40 | sabinef72 | see ya |
| 22:45.14 | z00dax | sabinef72: nite |
| 22:45.33 | z00dax | wethrin: maybe we should swing around mozrat's place and wish him on the 8th/9th midnight ? |
| 22:46.01 | mozrat | yay! |
| 22:46.10 | mozrat | ibot Gunde just loves the Hoff |
| 22:46.28 | z00dax | whats a hoff ? |
| 22:46.39 | mozrat | Not *a* hoff. The Hoff |
| 22:47.03 | mozrat | http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=The+Hoff |
| 22:49.15 | z00dax | aaaaaaaaaagggggggggg |
| 22:50.21 | mozrat | ibot Gunde |
| 22:50.22 | ibot | well, gunde is 163cm tall (in high heels) |
| 22:50.41 | mozrat | Gunde is also loves the Hoff |
| 22:50.45 | Gunde | nooo |
| 22:50.48 | mozrat | yes! |
| 22:50.53 | mozrat | Stupid iBot |
| 22:50.54 | Gunde | yuck! |
| 22:50.56 | mozrat | play nicely |
| 22:50.58 | Gunde | goood ibot! |
| 22:51.10 | mozrat | ibot z00dax |
| 22:51.14 | Gunde | ibot should not listen to mozrat |
| 22:51.21 | z00dax | yay! |
| 22:51.31 | mozrat | ibot dance |
| 22:51.32 | ibot | rumour has it, dance is ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
| 22:51.47 | mozrat | silly android |
| 22:51.57 | Gunde | ibot gunde |
| 22:51.58 | ibot | i heard gunde is 163cm tall (in high heels) |
| 22:52.01 | Gunde | phew |
| 22:52.35 | wethrin | z00dax: Could do, but I'm not around then |
| 22:52.56 | z00dax | ok, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz time folkz |
| 22:52.58 | wethrin | nn |
| 22:53.01 | mozrat | nn z00dax |
| 22:54.05 | z00dax | nn |
| 22:54.14 | mozrat | hey wethrin .. please op me |
| 22:54.31 | mozrat | the /topic is like.. so.. yesterday |
| 22:54.46 | wethrin | mozrat: Can't you op yourself now? |
| 22:54.58 | *** mode/#gllug [+o mozrat] by ChanServ |
| 22:55.21 | mozrat | wethrin: nope |
| 22:55.28 | wethrin | You should be able to |
| 22:55.33 | wethrin | You're on the list |
| 22:55.36 | wethrin | /msg chanserv op #gllug |
| 22:55.38 | mozrat | why do I need ops when either you, Leeds or Cope is around? |
| 22:55.47 | mozrat | there is no-one to kick in this channel... EVER |
| 22:55.56 | wethrin | Maybe we should invite George back :) |
| 22:56.13 | wethrin | Mmm....my old work IRC nick hasn't been used for > 3 years |
| 22:56.24 | wethrin | 3y 31w |
| 22:56.40 | *** topic/#gllug by mozrat -> Greater London LUG - Next social event is (probably) Sat 25th when sabinef72 is in London for the first time ever. http://gllug.org.uk http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
| 22:56.58 | mozrat | was that at SUSE? |
| 22:57.01 | wethrin | So we should give her a good Gllug Welcome then? |
| 22:57.04 | *** mode/#gllug [-o mozrat] by mozrat |
| 22:57.07 | mozrat | I think so! |
| 22:57.08 | wethrin | mozrat: Before then |
| 22:57.48 | wethrin | When I still was a sysadmin |
| 22:57.58 | mozrat | yay! |
| 22:58.44 | Gunde | But behave, otherwise I put it back on again. And the worst thing will be - at some point it might stick to your beard... |
| 22:58.52 | Gunde | or rather your beard might stick to it. |
| 23:00.50 | mozrat | I am fairly beardless now.. as she well knows |
| 23:00.51 | wethrin | what!? |
| 23:01.57 | mozrat | yeah |
| 23:02.06 | mozrat | just a bit of stubble |
| 23:02.14 | mozrat | not a beard at all in fact :( |
| 23:06.46 | mozrat | wethrin: do you know anyone who is (a) in London or nearby and (b) an expert on SNMP? |
| 23:07.00 | mozrat | or if not an expert knows enough to do a lightening talk on it |
| 23:08.15 | wethrin | No, but I suspect an email to the Gllug list should dig up a few people |
| 23:09.08 | mozrat | Very probably. Decembers speaker is likely to be from the OpenNMS project so I thought a related topic would work well |
| 23:11.11 | wethrin | Some sysadmin for a large-scale network. John Hearns, maybe? |
| 23:11.24 | mozrat | *nod* |
| 23:27.53 | z00dax | opennms ??? |
| 23:27.55 | z00dax | who ? |
| 23:29.01 | mozrat | Jonathan Sartin |
| 23:29.06 | mozrat | and.. you are asleep |
| 23:30.01 | z00dax | i was, phone calls woke me up |
| 23:40.21 | z00dax | mozrat: one thing that we really could use at the meets is internet access |
| 23:40.30 | z00dax | ok, i am off back to sleep now. |
| 23:41.26 | mozrat | nn |
| 23:41.48 | mozrat | z00dax: at the mercy of wmin there |
| 23:43.03 | z00dax | mozrat: i wonder if we could get someone to sponsor it somehow |
| 23:43.17 | z00dax | i have a use-all-you-can gprs for £1/day |
| 23:43.32 | z00dax | but i dont think 24k/sec is going to be quite enough |
| 23:44.05 | mozrat | heh |
| 23:44.35 | mozrat | I dont think Wmin have a problem with us using it, but the wireless network isn't so good |
| 23:44.41 | mozrat | and the proxy is a huge pain in the ass |
| 23:44.51 | z00dax | humm |
| 23:45.04 | mozrat | I don't know why they don't transparently proxy it |
| 23:45.07 | z00dax | I can get my laptop setup to do a transpatent proxy, and to forward via their network |
| 23:45.15 | z00dax | and use an AP via the laptop for everyone there |
| 23:45.16 | mozrat | z00dax: could be a good idea |
| 23:45.30 | mozrat | yeah, I could do that for the meetings I guess |
| 23:45.40 | mozrat | laptop -- cross cable -- wap |
| 23:45.53 | z00dax | GigEnet, dont need cross cable.. |
| 23:46.44 | z00dax | mozrat: lets get through this year, and i will then get a lot more actively involved |
| 23:46.56 | mozrat | z00dax: that would be awesome |
| 23:48.03 | z00dax | I've got to find someplace closer to work and inner city, and move by the end of this year |
| 23:48.24 | z00dax | that and work, takes priority for the next 2 months |
| 23:50.40 | mozrat | fair enough.. help next year would be welcome if you are up for it |
| 23:50.54 | mozrat | plus.. the more people helping. the less work i is |
| 23:50.55 | mozrat | it is |
| 23:52.24 | z00dax | always glad to help, its only time that i keep running out of :( |
| 23:52.42 | mozrat | me too |
| 23:52.48 | z00dax | :) |
| 23:52.49 | mozrat | hence printing leaflets on Saturday morning :-) |
| 23:52.55 | z00dax | ok now zzzzzzzzzzzz time |
| 23:52.59 | mozrat | nn |
