00:05.06 | catalyst | z00dax: depends what mood I'm in |
00:05.18 | wethrin | z00dax: It wasn't when I started |
00:06.12 | z00dax | catalyst: what else do you use / abuse |
00:06.21 | catalyst | windows |
00:06.24 | catalyst | ¬_¬ |
00:06.35 | catalyst | I used to kick gentoo about a lot |
00:06.53 | catalyst | then I decided I'd rather not spend my life watching a poorly packaged gcc based screensaver :( |
00:07.20 | catalyst | I'd run mandriva exclusively on my laptop if I could just get the wireless working on it |
00:09.52 | z00dax | what card is it ? |
00:10.17 | catalyst | umm, an ralink USB of some sort |
00:10.27 | catalyst | I don't know how to find out precisely what it is |
00:10.40 | z00dax | lspci will tell |
00:10.42 | z00dax | or lsusb |
01:50.34 | morsing | 'morning |
01:51.02 | Leeds | hi |
02:02.19 | morsing | Leeds! |
02:02.32 | morsing | What did you have for breakfast? |
02:04.22 | Leeds | haven't had breakfast yet, but have had a carton of light lemon tea |
02:05.12 | Leeds | what did you have for dinner? I had a burger last night - the first meat I've eaten since coming back to HK |
02:10.46 | morsing | I didn't have anything since I came home :( |
02:10.55 | Leeds | why not? |
02:10.56 | morsing | All you can eat chinese for luch |
02:10.58 | morsing | lunch |
02:11.06 | morsing | Not eating meat is not good for you! |
02:11.39 | Leeds | I eat fish, tofu... |
02:11.46 | Leeds | hmm... veggie dim sum for lunch today, I think |
02:11.57 | morsing | I have been called by Ops because of ping failures to a server |
02:12.21 | Leeds | ping, pong, ping, pong |
02:14.38 | morsing | This server is slightly un-documented though |
02:15.16 | Leeds | well, if it's only slightly, that's okay |
02:17.15 | morsing | What do I do about randomly missing ping replies? |
02:20.18 | morsing | And this server has a completely different IP address to anything else |
02:20.51 | Leeds | I suggest plugging the network cable back in |
02:25.50 | morsing | Hmm... It appears to be a backup server - which explains the different network address |
02:29.23 | morsing | I need to make a sausage roll to solve this... |
02:31.50 | morsing | Anyway, 'ps' shows nothing else running than backup daemons and there are no more scheduled backups for tonight |
02:32.04 | morsing | I think it's a safe bet to go back to bed |
02:38.10 | morsing | Mmm... Sausage |
02:38.51 | Leeds | mmm... burger... |
02:39.14 | Leeds | I actually wanted a hot dog, but they've been off the menu since about when I arrived here last year |
06:00.35 | morsing | Mmm... |
07:41.46 | cpufreak | urgh |
07:59.49 | Leeds | mmm... lunch |
08:06.50 | Leeds | and a carton of fake meat from the takeaway veggie place across the road from the gym :-) |
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08:40.53 | morsing | eye69! |
08:51.52 | morsing | Leeds: What's for lunch |
08:52.23 | Leeds | I said, above - fake meat from the veggie dim sum place across the road from the gym |
08:54.40 | morsing | Nice |
08:54.56 | Leeds | indeed it was :-) |
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09:04.09 | morsing | huw-l! |
09:04.59 | huw-l | morning |
09:28.40 | sabinef72 | morning |
09:28.49 | Leeds | afternoon |
09:30.06 | morsing | sabinef72! |
09:32.11 | Leeds | no. |
09:32.21 | Leeds | hmm... I'm front page on google for "star ferry pier" :-) |
09:33.28 | Leeds | ew |
09:34.18 | sabinef72 | ah ah |
09:36.16 | Leeds | :-) |
09:41.21 | morsing | s/to/too/ |
09:45.01 | morsing | ibot wake ibot |
09:45.06 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ibot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
09:45.14 | murb | moin |
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09:53.32 | morsing | failure! |
09:57.26 | Leeds | failure is *not* an option |
09:57.53 | morsing | ibot failure is also not an option |
09:57.57 | ibot | okay, morsing |
09:58.01 | morsing | ibot failure |
09:58.02 | ibot | methinks failure is not an option |
09:58.08 | morsing | :) |
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10:00.51 | sabinef72 | mozrat: are you wake up ?????????? |
10:01.09 | failure | 'morning :) |
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10:06.07 | morsing | gethoper! |
10:06.13 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
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10:11.55 | morsing | goibhniu! |
10:16.09 | goibhniu | morsing! |
10:19.49 | morsing | Nice |
10:23.11 | goibhniu | I was wondering why I'd put in "music that sounds like" "the slits" and it would gradually drift toward the doors and jimi hendrix |
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10:34.43 | morsing | PussInBoots |
10:34.44 | morsing | 1 |
11:11.48 | morsing | mozrat? |
11:12.09 | sabinef72 | yes where is mozrat ?????????? |
11:20.30 | sabinef72 | :-)))))) |
11:36.17 | goibhniu | Joomla Awarded Best Open Source CMS http://www.cmswire.com/cms/open-source-cms/joomla-awarded-best-open-source-cms-000894.php |
11:36.54 | goibhniu | actually a tie with drupal |
11:37.49 | morsing | Joomla? |
11:37.55 | morsing | Drupal? |
11:42.43 | z00dax | best CMS judged by the number of security vuln's reported then ? |
11:43.00 | z00dax | Joomla and Drupal have got to be 2 of the most insecure and most hacked apps on the planet |
11:47.27 | goibhniu | joomla looks like it has lots of bells and whistles |
11:47.46 | antiphase | CMSes are used by kiddy fiddlers |
11:48.20 | z00dax | antiphase: and what do the real men use |
11:50.41 | antiphase | vi |
11:52.20 | gregj | http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/flvplayer.swf?file=http://media.biertijd.com/movies/200610/onderen.flv&autostart=true&fs=true |
11:52.26 | gregj | I just wonder what city is it in |
12:29.20 | goibhniu | I want to simulate having a slow internet connection ... trickle? tc? tcng? |
12:29.54 | murb | goibhniu: ppp over a serial cable at 9.6k |
12:30.41 | goibhniu | fun! ... but I only have one serial port :( |
12:32.15 | morsing | Nice |
12:36.57 | morsing | ping wethrin |
12:37.05 | morsing | sabinef72? |
12:37.44 | sabinef72 | ahh yes |
12:37.46 | sabinef72 | I'm here |
12:43.31 | sabinef72 | morsing ? |
12:53.26 | morsing | sabinef72? |
13:04.25 | sabinef72 | morsing ? |
13:15.47 | morsing | Mmm... Supermarket |
13:16.59 | sabinef72 | yes my fridge is empty |
13:50.51 | morsing | 0 |
13:51.14 | morsing | iTron! |
14:14.38 | Leeds | well that was an interesting film |
14:14.49 | morsing | Leeds? |
14:16.35 | morsing | Futurama the movie I? |
14:16.46 | Leeds | no, it's called Steel Toes |
14:17.45 | Leeds | Canadian film about a skinhead being assigned a Jewish lawyer after kicking an Indian man to death |
14:17.58 | morsing | Nice |
14:18.09 | Leeds | no, not really |
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14:34.57 | morsing | Cope! |
14:37.33 | morsing | Leeds: In HK?! |
14:37.52 | Leeds | yes, of course in HK |
14:39.37 | Leeds | I didn't pop back to the UK for the afternoon just to watch Mastermind ;-) |
14:39.58 | morsing | Nice |
14:55.16 | Cope | hello morsing |
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15:11.00 | morsing | Cope! |
15:11.41 | Cope | :D |
16:03.19 | Leeds | there has been a commercial posting policy for the list for a long time, which is rarely referenced, never mind enforced... but it's annoying me |
16:05.55 | morsing | m |
16:07.32 | morsing | And what's SO? |
16:08.32 | Leeds | SO? |
16:08.41 | Leeds | significant other? |
16:09.41 | morsing | Ahh... |
16:10.00 | Leeds | and leaving SOs out makes it a pretty poor attempt at a Christmas do |
16:10.11 | boudiccas | choo |
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16:10.22 | boudiccas | another cold finds its victim! |
16:11.27 | z00dax | Leeds: yea, thats what i was thinking |
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16:17.21 | macooo | hi all |
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16:22.31 | morsing | catalyst! |
16:23.29 | Leeds | it's possible that watching a film about a skinhead murderer didn't help my mood |
16:24.15 | catalyst | morsing! |
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17:03.14 | morsing | Erwin! |
17:05.11 | Erwin | morning. geez, copenhagen is so cold compared to london |
17:05.19 | morsing | Nice |
17:06.23 | Leeds | what do you expect in the frozen wastelands of Scandanavist? |
17:08.06 | Erwin | well, there was something like a 10C difference, and CPH is not that far north |
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18:57.25 | cope | Hello chums |
18:58.08 | Cope | tah's better |
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19:25.42 | trousers | Howdy |
19:29.11 | Cope | hello trousers |
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19:44.01 | resuDaed | evening all |
19:44.11 | resuDaed | any maths specialists around? |
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19:49.57 | Erwin | What exactly? |
19:53.37 | resuDaed | trying to integrate e^-t^2 |
19:53.58 | resuDaed | my TI84 can do it, but I can't |
20:08.26 | Cope | do you want hints? or the answer? |
20:08.33 | Cope | well... of course you have the answer |
20:11.17 | resuDaed | Cope : hints |
20:11.57 | resuDaed | that don't involve computers, graphical calculators or more ability than a first year Mech Eng Student |
20:23.25 | Cope | ok - that is e to the minus t to the 2? just so i am reading correctly |
20:23.38 | resuDaed | yes |
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20:32.46 | serr_slack | hi all |
20:42.31 | Cope | resuDaed: gaussian integral? |
20:44.32 | resuDaed | Cope : first year mech eng student |
20:44.48 | resuDaed | we were only (re)taught integration yesterday |
20:46.21 | Cope | check out gaussian integrals - the answer is (I think) root t |
21:19.22 | trousers | I don't understand why my wireless isn't working! |
21:21.08 | trousers | iwlist wlan0 scanning brings up a load of networks |
21:21.17 | trousers | I've left mine open for the moment so I can connect to it easily |
21:21.35 | trousers | I try editing my /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 appropriately |
21:21.41 | trousers | But I can't get any connection |
21:31.38 | resuDaed | ibot seen trousers |
21:32.01 | ibot | trousers is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 10m 20s, last said: 'But I can't get any connection'. |
21:32.01 | trousers | I'm here |
21:32.34 | resuDaed | I am assuming you've tried just iwconfig wlan0 essid [blah] enc [enc key if applicable] |
21:33.12 | resuDaed | or possibly specifying the channel/freq aswell |
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21:43.24 | trousers_laptop | Woo! |
22:06.48 | mozrat | http://gllug.org.uk/uploads/Meetings/7thDec06/Poster-small.png |
22:09.43 | Erwin | Hmm, greylist is a pain. It seems that every customer we have is using multiple outgoing mail servers |
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22:16.38 | z00dax_tube | Hello |
22:16.39 | trousers_laptop | Howdy z00dax_tube |
22:16.52 | trousers_laptop | Only got my USB WiFi working again :( |
22:17.20 | z00dax_tube | Why not the pcmcia ? |
22:18.45 | trousers_laptop | It just refuses to detect it |
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22:19.04 | trousers_laptop | morsing? |
22:19.18 | z00dax_tube | Who is "it" ? |
22:19.28 | trousers_laptop | The laptop |
22:20.52 | Erwin | Anyone gotten their thinkpad repaired by ibm in uk? |
22:23.31 | z00dax_tube | I thought that lspci found the card ? |
22:23.51 | z00dax_tube | Erwin, i got mine done when it was still ibm |
22:24.01 | z00dax_tube | A screen replacement |
22:25.11 | Cope | mozrat: so 7th eh? what time? |
22:25.35 | mozrat | 1930hrs |
22:25.55 | Cope | 6th is wed |
22:27.08 | sabinef72 | time for bed |
22:27.12 | sabinef72 | night night |
22:27.17 | z00dax_tube | Bye |
22:29.28 | z00dax_tube | Cope, are you going to come for the next gllug meet ? |
22:30.23 | flips_and_rails | I have a new machine with over 16Gb mem and 4 procs, does anyone know if i can enable the hugemem style kernel at install time? |
22:30.49 | z00dax_tube | What distro ? |
22:31.40 | z00dax_tube | The installer will install the smp and hugemem for you anyway, but why install a 32 bit distro on a machine like that ? |
22:32.05 | z00dax_tube | I suppose the question would be why have 32 bit procs on a machine like that |
22:32.11 | flips_and_rails | well i am installing 64bit |
22:32.24 | flips_and_rails | and just wasn't sure what it woule pick up automatically |
22:32.30 | trousers_laptop | What does is limit RAM to on 32 bit? |
22:32.46 | z00dax_tube | You would need a few terra ram to hit hugemem requirements on a 64 bit kernel |
22:33.04 | flips_and_rails | well its a bit complicated |
22:33.24 | z00dax_tube | Flips: the normal smp kernel should do you fine |
22:33.27 | flips_and_rails | i am happy to just have it install and work for now |
22:33.45 | flips_and_rails | we have got silly amounts of ram and processors |
22:34.03 | flips_and_rails | it just happens that the max we have in one place at one time is 16gb and 4 procs |
22:34.24 | Erwin | z00dax_tube: Do you send it in somewhere, or do they pick it up or something? I guess it is different when it's Lenovo now, but my interinational warranty seems to hold according to their website |
22:34.26 | flips_and_rails | I haven't installed anything manually for years and was just wondering what detection was like |
22:35.01 | flips_and_rails | So if the install DVD will pick up the 16gb RAM and multiple procs then thats fine ;-) |
22:35.02 | flips_and_rails | thanks |
22:35.25 | z00dax_tube | Erwin, I had onsite at the time they came and picked it up 5 days later was delivered by courier |
22:35.40 | z00dax_tube | Flips, what distro ? |
22:36.13 | Erwin | Oddly a week after my backlight started failing randomly, and I took it on a plane trip, it has completely died with a "Fan Error". |
22:36.30 | z00dax_tube | Most install time kernels wont use that much since they are all uni proc based, except on ppc64 and s390 |
22:36.58 | flips_and_rails | well i need fc5 to install |
22:37.12 | z00dax_tube | So you might need to install with mem=1024M or something |
22:38.03 | z00dax_tube | Once installed, it will default to smp kernel, which on x86-64 should be fine to about 512gb of ram at least |
22:38.37 | flips_and_rails | what the mem=1024mb do? |
22:38.49 | flips_and_rails | does should be in the last sentence somewhere |
22:39.22 | z00dax_tube | Limit the install time kernel to only use a gig, thats more than it needs really |
22:39.56 | z00dax_tube | Use it only if you have a problem.... |
22:40.14 | keithlard_ | z00dax_tube> hey dogg |
22:40.26 | z00dax_tube | Heya keith! |
22:40.31 | keithlard_ | how are you? |
22:40.34 | trousers_laptop | What *is* smp? |
22:40.35 | flips_and_rails | is there anywhere i can peek/poke at these options, what's there offical name? |
22:40.38 | trousers_laptop | What *is* smp? |
22:40.46 | flips_and_rails | symettric multi processor |
22:40.47 | z00dax_tube | Better, i think |
22:40.50 | trousers_laptop | Cheers |
22:41.00 | keithlard_ | z00dax_tube> alright! :D |
22:41.23 | keithlard_ | are you on the tube? |
22:41.25 | z00dax_tube | Keith, still @ work ? |
22:41.50 | z00dax_tube | On the train actually, came to see a doc friend in town |
22:42.03 | keithlard_ | no i am relaxing at home with a $LAGER and mini poppadoms ekcetera |
22:42.28 | trousers_laptop | G'night |
22:43.00 | z00dax_tube | Lucky dogg. I am relaxing with a million people stuffed into a train coach, all sweating and abusing london transport |
22:43.10 | z00dax_tube | Trousers, see ya |
22:43.16 | keithlard_ | nernight! |
22:43.48 | keithlard_ | lrug meeting was excellent by the way |
22:44.04 | flips_and_rails | z00dax_tube, thanks for your help :) |
22:44.09 | keithlard_ | i now love capistrano! :D |
22:44.23 | z00dax_tube | I felt way out of sync to make it yesterday, was quite blown by the time i left |
22:44.41 | z00dax_tube | Keith, must look at it |
22:45.10 | z00dax_tube | Flips no worries, let me know how you get along, also btw, why not use centos ? |
22:46.15 | z00dax_tube | Keith, something we can use capstrano ? |
22:46.26 | z00dax_tube | Capistrano even |
22:47.32 | keithlard_ | yes it is basically like the script we have for doing commands on remote servers via ssh |
22:48.13 | keithlard_ | except it is more like rakefile syntax, and you get various free tasks ekcetera predefined for you |
22:49.06 | rhowe | hmmm |
22:49.32 | rhowe | temp2: +39.0°C (high = +53°C, hyst = +48°C) sensor = thermistor (beep) |
22:49.35 | rhowe | temp3: +48.0°C (high = +53°C, hyst = +48°C) sensor = thermistor (beep) |
22:49.39 | rhowe | that'll be it |
22:49.47 | keithlard_ | rhowe> is it like that apple advert... beep... beep... beeeeep... |
22:50.07 | rhowe | apple advert? |
22:50.09 | z00dax_tube | Keith...blogs are good |
22:51.04 | keithlard_ | we could use radiant |
22:51.12 | keithlard_ | or write it in rails! |
22:51.17 | rhowe | then again, if she'd turned it off, she'd have had no PC :P |
22:51.21 | z00dax_tube | Looks like the train is finally moving again |
22:51.29 | keithlard_ | huzzah! |
22:51.59 | z00dax_tube | Keith, you need to slow down with ruby, i need to catch up |
22:52.14 | keithlard_ | rhowe> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_feiss |
22:52.34 | keithlard_ | we need to do some hardcore pair programming! |
22:52.54 | z00dax_tube | Yea, that would be one way to catch up |
22:52.58 | keithlard_ | and drinking... ruby programmers seem to drink a great deal :D |
22:53.10 | keithlard_ | if last night is anything to go by |
22:53.14 | z00dax_tube | Did you guys manage to rack Mica into the smaller rack |
22:53.31 | z00dax_tube | I think i might know what the io problem is |
22:53.44 | z00dax_tube | Drinking++ |
22:54.57 | keithlard_ | no we seemed to spend most of today talking in the office, and breathing in paint fumes |
22:55.36 | keithlard_ | it is fine until the pink elephants start coming at you out of the walls :S |
22:56.38 | keithlard_ | our new office has desks! and elecktricity! :D |
22:56.39 | rhowe | z00dax_tube: New server arrived today at work btw - HP DL320 G5 |
22:56.42 | rhowe | z00dax_tube: It's bent! |
22:56.55 | rhowe | z00dax_tube: Has a distinct curve to the front end, and I don't think it's supposed to |
22:57.23 | keithlard_ | that is a bit worrisome |
22:57.26 | rhowe | z00dax_tube: Still, £500 for a 1U SATA box |
22:57.38 | rhowe | keithlard_: I think it's a manufacturing fault.. seems to be the way the chassis was put together |
22:57.55 | rhowe | will call SCC Exchange (the retailer) in the morning and ask them about it |
22:58.33 | rhowe | It works fine - installed Debian testing with MD and LVM just fine. Glad to see they've changed debian-installer to allow you to do LVM-on-MD, which ISTR not being possible with sarge |
23:00.00 | keithlard_ | computers are awesome |
23:00.14 | rhowe | Too time consuming |
23:00.29 | rhowe | Fine if you're billing by the hour, but if you're salaried, they can be a bit of a drag |
23:00.45 | keithlard_ | it depends if you like spending your time doing that though! ;D |
23:01.19 | keithlard_ | i could be getting up in the morning and working in eg dixons, like simon pegg out of shaun of the dead |
23:01.58 | keithlard_ | instead someone is willing to pay me to sit around all day messing about with computers and drinking endless cups of free tea! |
23:02.12 | keithlard_ | sometimes there are biscuits! |
23:04.47 | keithlard_ | or as someone said... "I don't like to think of it as going to work every day, so much as going to a big building with free coffee where I can pee on the seat without fear of retribution." |
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23:06.26 | JAV | hello |
23:06.50 | keithlard_ | hmm, xchat-gnome crashed |
23:07.11 | keithlard_ | hola amigo! como van todos contigo? |
23:09.19 | keithlard_ | that is weird, for some reason google video does not have sound if something else has got the sound open |
23:21.06 | JAV | use esd |
23:21.25 | JAV | or artsd if you use kde |
23:22.15 | keithlard_ | esd is on! |
23:53.54 | *** join/#gllug PinguKaos (n=edd@spc1-walt7-0-0-cust391.asfd.broadband.ntl.com) |
23:54.11 | PinguKaos | evenin' all |