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| 01:31.25 | z00dax | heya catalyst |
| 01:35.25 | catalyst | heyo |
| 01:40.51 | z00dax | I saw father christmas driving down the A2 today |
| 01:41.08 | z00dax | he seems to have lost much weight since last year |
| 03:30.48 | z00dax | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz time |
| 03:33.44 | Leeds | night |
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| 11:17.40 | Leeds | Hong Kong- Forty elderly people were admitted to hospital in Hong Kong Sunday as temperatures fell to the lowest level this year, according to the government radio station RTHK. ... At dawn Sunday the temperature recorded by the Hong Kong observatory was 12 degrees Celsius." |
| 11:50.50 | trousers | Can you have non-kosher vegetables? |
| 11:52.37 | Leeds | no |
| 11:53.36 | Leeds | you could certainly have them in a non-kosher sauce or something - except these are just carrots, pre-washed and skinned and ready-to-eat - and there could be a situation where veg was being processed in a way that it could come into contact with non-kosher stuff and would therefore not be certified kosher |
| 11:54.34 | Leeds | for example, for many many years, certain chocolate bars in the UK weren't kosher, and any other stuff made in the same factory couldn't be certified because the kosher authorities weren't satisfied that there was no way there could be any contamination |
| 11:55.52 | Leeds | it's 8pm... I think I'm going to pop up the road for some curry, and maybe some bookshop browsing... |
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| 15:52.23 | wethrin | hello |
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| 17:25.36 | Leeds | Dick! |
| 17:29.26 | Leeds | how is your weekend? |
| 17:30.40 | Dick_Turpin | Ok no major disasters so far |
| 17:32.00 | Leeds | good, good... shopping all done? |
| 17:33.11 | Dick_Turpin | Yeah did the last presents yesterday just got the food shop todo next saturday |
| 17:38.27 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, What distro do you use? |
| 17:38.34 | Leeds | Slackware |
| 17:40.23 | Dick_Turpin | Hang on wifes yapping at me |
| 17:41.57 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, Slackware eh, thats the one distro I've not used couldnt install it, not clever enough |
| 17:42.39 | Leeds | no, probably not |
| 17:42.52 | Leeds | it requires clue |
| 17:42.55 | Leeds | :-) |
| 17:43.34 | Leeds | but to be fair, it requires *less* clue now than it did when I started with it... it's just that the general levels of clue have declined |
| 17:46.12 | wethrin | General levels of clue for Linux, or Slackware in particular? |
| 17:47.40 | Leeds | Linux |
| 17:47.58 | Leeds | wait... general levels of clue have declined, but the clue required for slackware has also declined |
| 17:49.13 | wethrin | Well, yes |
| 17:49.24 | wethrin | I never recall having a problem with Slackware installs |
| 17:49.30 | wethrin | I found them easier than RedHat installs |
| 17:49.52 | wethrin | But then I find OpenBSD installs really easy |
| 17:52.26 | JAV | hello |
| 17:54.01 | Dick_Turpin | hello |
| 17:54.23 | JAV | it all depends on the hardware you have, if it's standard you have no problems with almost none distro |
| 17:55.26 | Dick_Turpin | wethrin, what do you use? |
| 17:56.33 | wethrin | OS X desktop, OpenBSD colo server, OpenBSD firewall, Solaris DNS/DHCP server, Debian fileserver |
| 17:58.16 | Leeds | aw... |
| 17:58.32 | wethrin | Oh, and Win2k office desktop |
| 17:58.47 | Leeds | wethrin: and you were doing so well! |
| 17:58.58 | wethrin | I know |
| 17:59.09 | wethrin | 'tis a shame, to be sure |
| 18:03.45 | Dick_Turpin | I'm a great believer in using whatever software gets the job done I'm not Linux zealot |
| 18:09.21 | Dick_Turpin | Leeds, Has your system crashed yet? I did smear the blood of a virgin goat on that curse I sent |
| 18:11.59 | Leeds | nope, but the fan did come on |
| 18:12.48 | Dick_Turpin | Did it go Leeds Leeds Leeds, oh its not that sort of fan :-) |
| 19:36.42 | trousers | Aharr |
| 19:36.54 | trousers | I think I might change my server to Debian, it's just easy |
| 19:47.54 | goibhniu | sup trousers ... how are the bots? |
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| 21:15.41 | mb^2 | yes trousers the apt distribtions are eaisier to use then the rpm ones |
| 21:16.05 | z00dax | where'd you get that from ? |
| 21:16.22 | mb^2 | from my own experience at using them |
| 21:16.41 | mb^2 | It took me forever to install stuff on Madrake. |
| 21:16.48 | z00dax | well, that statement is a load of bullshit |
| 21:17.00 | z00dax | since you cant compare rpm to apt anyway |
| 21:17.18 | z00dax | *shrug* never used mdk beyond a normal - lets see what the installer looks like |
| 21:17.52 | mb^2 | why not? |
| 21:18.16 | z00dax | never needed to, I just found other distro's more stable, and mdk is hardly used in the enterprise markets anyway |
| 21:18.27 | z00dax | which is where my interest in linux is - on the server and enterprise segments |
| 21:21.12 | mb^2 | what distributons do you find more statble then |
| 21:23.28 | z00dax | CentOS is the Distro of choice |
| 21:27.46 | z00dax | tragic! |
| 21:27.54 | z00dax | :) |
| 21:35.32 | hali | i find ie7 impossible to use |
| 21:35.38 | hali | it's just to hard to get anything done |
| 21:38.48 | goibhniu | unfortunately they don't have the interface working properly with wine yet, so I haven't really used it ... looks pretty bad though |
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| 22:21.00 | mdke | hi there. This is my first time here |
| 22:21.19 | mdke | is anyone around? |
| 22:21.43 | goibhniu | hi mdke, what's down? |
| 22:21.52 | z00dax | mdke: letme check, who's calling ? |
| 22:23.06 | mdke | I've been thinking recently that I'd quite like to get involved with maybe helping out with the use of free software in local charities or something like that. Does anyone know a good place to start looking? |
| 22:24.38 | mdke | I've got some basic system administration skills, general enthusiasm about open source, and good writing skills to contribute |
| 22:26.55 | z00dax | join the gllug list - often people will ask for just this sort of help. |
| 22:26.55 | mdke | maybe even legal skills, if they are really unlucky |
| 22:27.43 | hali | whats the name of that guy who's a police officer? |
| 22:27.55 | hali | he used to hang around here |
| 22:27.55 | mdke | z00dax: alright |
| 22:28.12 | goibhniu | I'm trying to find that group (in sheffield perhaps?) that set up an open source internet cafe type thing where people went to learn computer skills off each other |
| 22:28.29 | z00dax | Tim |
| 22:28.31 | mdke | z00dax: discussion list? |
| 22:28.36 | z00dax | mdke: yeah |
| 22:29.31 | mdke | ok, done |
| 22:30.02 | mdke | any other ideas? |
| 22:32.46 | goibhniu | mdke: pick a charity you like and ask if you can do something for them? |
| 22:33.47 | mdke | that seems sensible, but I don't know about many charities, and those I do know about don't look like they need that sort of help. I suppose I'm looking for a meeting place to find some |
| 22:33.52 | z00dax | mdke: post an email to the list saying that you are willing to offer help / support to such people... |
| 22:34.17 | goibhniu | any reasonably sized charity will have plenty data-entry type work to be done for example |
| 22:34.56 | goibhniu | mdke: I work for Oxfam, if that's any interest to you (paid) |
| 22:35.09 | z00dax | Oxfam uses linux ? |
| 22:35.25 | goibhniu | z00dax: you sound surprised? |
| 22:35.47 | mdke | goibhniu: wow. What sort of work do you do? |
| 22:35.48 | z00dax | yes, since iirc the Gates foundation donated a few thousand copies of WinXP to Oxfam a short while back |
| 22:35.57 | goibhniu | they use a lot of Plone, but plenty of other stuff too |
| 22:36.29 | goibhniu | yes Microsoft are very keen to get some Oxfam business |
| 22:36.49 | goibhniu | mdke: I do plone web development for their content management system |
| 22:37.07 | mdke | sounds great |
| 22:37.47 | mdke | enjoy it? |
| 22:37.50 | goibhniu | they're very keen on Open Source but never at the expense of the project ... they're sensibly focussed on the end result |
| 22:38.05 | hali | i think i read something about the uk wetlands trust looking for it support staff |
| 22:38.16 | goibhniu | mdke: it's fantastic ... except they're based in Oxfam, and I'm living in East London |
| 22:39.06 | mdke | sure. You could move to Oxfam, it's nice up there |
| 22:39.09 | goibhniu | mdke: there are a few charities using plone now ... might be worth looking into if that type of thing interests you |
| 22:39.11 | mdke | where in East London are you? |
| 22:39.22 | goibhniu | it is nice, but it ain't Hackney :D |
| 22:39.29 | goibhniu | I'm in Dalston |
| 22:39.40 | mdke | ah, I don't know that |
| 22:39.45 | andrew__ | Where is Oxfam :-) |
| 22:39.51 | goibhniu | actually the gf needs to be in London, so Oxford isn't an option |
| 22:39.52 | mdke | it's in Oxford, I think |
| 22:39.58 | mdke | maybe they have more places though |
| 22:44.40 | goibhniu | mdke: what kind of thing are you interested in particularly, sys admin? |
| 22:45.49 | mdke | well, not necessarily. I am no expert, but I can set up email and website software and such. And I have quite a lot of hosting space I don't use up. I'm not a coder, my real skills are writing and legal |
| 22:46.23 | mdke | I'm quite a free software lover though, and I'd like to maybe do some advocacy and help set up some systems |
| 22:49.34 | z00dax | (dinner)++ |
| 22:49.49 | mdke | nice to meet you guys |
| 22:50.06 | trousers | Will there be any GLLUG Christmas/New Year's meeting of sorts? |
| 22:51.39 | z00dax | trousers: yes, its on the list |
| 22:51.43 | z00dax | iirc, its on Tuesday |
| 22:51.54 | z00dax | mdke: take it easy, hope to see more of you around |
| 23:55.50 | wethrin | hello |