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02:58.20z00daxmorning Leeds
03:03.05Leedshey
03:12.50z00daxso, would you buy the Apple iPhone
03:12.56z00daxor the nokia n800
03:24.38Leedsgood question - but they're pretty different devices
03:24.55Leedsright now, the answer is probably more like 'neither'
03:25.27z00daxhumm
03:27.46Leedsthe iphone is pretty expensive - $600 with a two-year (I think) contract, and I've yet to see my top question answered - how easily can I install my own, or third-party software on it?  is it locked down, or almost-locked like the iPod?
03:28.58Leedsand the days of my owning a mobile device which isn't my phone are over - I've had the Treo for over 18 months now, and I really can't see myself carrying more than one device... about the only exception right now is my camera, which I don't carry regularly, but the Treo camera is crappy enough that if you want decent pics you need a different cam
03:29.19Leedsand no, skype or gtalk over wifi is not a replacement for a phone
03:29.53Leedsoh, and for the iphone, of course, there's the question of how useful it is if you're not going to use the Apple desktop software
03:31.19LeedsI still have some hope that Access and/or Palm might put out a Linux-powered smartphone this year
03:32.06Leedsfor the iphone, they made a big deal out of the fact that it's running OSX... I'm skeptical... I want to know if it's running OSX, or something different with a similar interface, both GUI and API
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03:34.17z00daxdont treo already have the 700p ?
03:34.23z00daxor is that just cosmetic up on the 650
03:34.55Leeds700p is cmda-only
03:35.38Leeds650, 680 and iphone are gsm/gprs/edge
03:36.27Leedson the Apple developer site: Searched for iphone. Returned 0 results in 0.01 seconds.
03:36.28z00daxthe 680 is a toy
03:36.34z00daxnice
03:38.43Leedstoy?
03:38.52Leedsit's a slightly upgraded version of the 650
03:40.10Leedsright, got my apartment (well, studio room) sorted for another month
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03:49.15z00daxits all plastic and feels like something from Fisher price
05:19.04morsing'morning
06:03.27Leedsis it?
07:12.04morsingYes
07:16.39morsingLeeds?
07:16.55Leedsyes
07:17.32morsingWhere are you going?
07:17.59Leedsdunno... somewhere local... it's 3:15 already!
07:18.11morsingStarbucks?
07:19.14Leedsunlikely - more likely 7-11 for a sarnie, DeliFrance maybe
07:24.09morsingIs this not wrong:
07:24.10morsingwww.morsing.cc/nagios.bmp
07:26.27morsingLeeds?
07:29.57morsingIt appears as though you do not have permission to view information for any of the hosts you requested...
07:36.35morsingRight... Stylesheets directory had been moved
07:38.51morsingLeeds?
07:45.50morsingLeeds?
08:04.28morsingLeeds!
08:04.39morsingFix my Nagios!
08:04.50Leedsno
08:05.19Leedsit's really warm in here compared with outside
08:05.39morsingNice
08:05.51morsingHow's Annabel?
08:05.58morsingIs she warm inside?
08:06.08Leedsno, she's got a cold
08:07.09morsing:(
08:26.26morsingLeeds: Have you heard of hashing?
08:26.52Leedsit's a very generic term
08:28.23morsingWell, apparently it means drive to a pub, go for a quick run in the country side, return to the pub and have beer
08:29.49Leedsno, it doesn';t
08:29.54morsingYes it does
08:31.13morsinghttp://www.cix.co.uk/~bicesterh3/uk/hashing.htm
08:34.20Leedsblah
08:37.38morsingLeeds?
08:39.30Leedsblah
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09:04.45morsingSlayerXP!
09:04.56morsingHow do I search mail content in MutT?
09:11.49morsingSlayerXP?
09:11.55SlayerXPyes?
09:13.27Leedsbaby it's cold outside...
09:18.15Leedsbut it's bloody warm in here... the boss has cold feet, so she's got a heater blowing warm air on them
09:18.35morsingAre they nice feet?
09:18.44morsingSlayerXP: How do I search mail content in Mutt?
09:18.53SlayerXPi have no idea.
09:19.01SlayerXPtry using a modern mail client
09:21.06morsingLike Squirrelmail?
09:21.53SlayerXPthunderbord, evolution
09:21.57SlayerXPthunderbird, too
09:21.59morsingping wethrin
09:32.19sabinef72morning
09:32.39morsingsabinef72!
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10:23.58andrew__hi there. I have a list of files in a file.  I want to "mv xxx somewhere" for each xxx in the file.
10:24.01andrew__Can xargs do it?
10:24.41morsingIs somewhere the same?
10:24.51andrew__Yep - the same
10:24.54morsingSo
10:25.13morsingwhile read ... I don't know :)
10:25.21morsingHmm... xargs
10:25.36morsingcat file | xargs mv /something/
10:25.45morsingIs that what you were thinking?
10:26.10andrew__yes  - but i need to but the filename between mv and /soomehting"
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10:30.01andrew__cat zz| xargs -i mv '{}' ../hide
10:33.27morsingNice
10:43.10wethrinmorsing: hello
10:44.17wethrinAnd hello everyone!
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10:45.03antiphaseDepends if the filenames have unescaped spaces or other nasties in
10:45.15antiphaseANy way you do it will fuck up if so
10:45.28antiphaseUnless you do some crufty sed or perl to tidy them up
10:47.43andrew__One of my hates is filenames with spaces.  I don't think I have any but thanks for the warning
10:49.40andrew__I guess a risk is if there is a file "x" and "x y".
10:49.59andrew__mv x y somewhere will move x rather than "x y"
10:56.40robo_rohmmm antiphase... you might find the IFS variable useful: http://notfaq.wordpress.com/
10:59.27robo_rojust remember to unset IFS when you're fininshed, it can cause a number of programs to behave weirdly if you don't unset it
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11:06.13eyoremy toasted sandwich had too much cheese now i feel a bit sick
11:06.20eyoremorning btw.
11:07.55antiphaseThere's no such thing as too much cheese
11:08.33morsingwethrin: You're only allowed to say hello to me!
11:08.48morsingantiphase: For once you're right :)
11:09.05wethrinoh
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11:15.59morsingErwin!
11:16.05Erwinmorning
11:17.00eyorea friend of mine has been complaining that he has to move his ram around because the heat sink gets in the way
11:17.04eyoreso i asked for a pic
11:17.04eyorehttp://www.zen97774.zen.co.uk/Clip.jpg
11:17.08eyoreno kidding
11:17.21eyorei'm suprised he didn't need to make a hole in his ceiling
11:18.34wethrinfuuckin'ell!
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11:18.41wethrinWhat CPU needs that much cooling?
11:18.45morsinggoibhniu!
11:18.58goibhniumorsing!
11:19.08wethrinmorsing: Got in contact with the colo places?
11:19.24morsingwethrin: They're investigating
11:19.33wethrininvestigating?
11:19.42wethrindid you say I'm interested in colo too?
11:19.45morsingWhether Monday will be ok
11:19.48morsingYes
11:19.48wethrinAhhhh
11:19.53wethrinThanks!
11:20.00wethrinAnd what about Mark? Is it okay with him?
11:20.13morsingHaven't mentioned it yet
11:20.15wethrinUmm
11:20.20morsingWanted BlueLinux to say ok first
11:20.22eyorewethrin: A coreduo 2.4ghz, overclocked to 3.2ghz
11:20.27eyoreapparently
11:20.30morsingeyore: Pointless
11:20.32wethrinmorsing: Right
11:20.46morsingWhat's the bloody point of overclocking...
11:20.53eyoreEntirely gaming.
11:21.06eyoreotherwise it's slower in some games than the P4 it replaces
11:21.22eyorecertainly not my cup of tea
11:22.23wethrinOf course there's other considerations with overlocking. If you overclock the CPU a bit too much, and the memory can't keep up its information flow, you'll be losing a lot of cycles waiting for data
11:22.37eyoreyeah he got this special expensive ram too
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11:23.06wethrinThat's fine. What about the data path from RAM to CPU?
11:23.40wethrin!
11:23.47eyorealmost all the chips bottleneck ram to cpu if enough stuff doesn't fit in the cpu cache
11:23.53morsinggw280: You suck
11:23.59gw280morsing: no, I rock.
11:24.09eyorebut it is true that a dual core on a primarily single threaded game will be slower than a P4 without overclocking
11:24.18eyorebecause they reduced the speed
11:26.02gw280morsing: you are full of lose.
11:26.06gw280as is wethrin
11:33.53antiphaseOverclocking is for weeners
11:33.59eyore:)
11:37.03eyorequite
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12:19.36morsingkeithlard_!
12:19.47keithlard_i
12:19.48keithlard_hi!
12:21.18morsingj
12:21.19morsingkj
12:27.41eyorewow the mormons are really on a roll
12:27.50eyoremore mormons year in year out
12:28.15eyoreBy my estimations we'll all be mormons by 2094
12:28.32wethrinkeithlard!
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12:29.20dick_turpinMorning All
12:31.24BlaptoMornin
12:31.27Blaptoish
12:33.18robo_romornin
12:34.47morsingNioce
12:35.06dick_turpinAnyone any good with mysql?
12:35.25morsingYes
12:35.35cpufreakI've been using it for 7 years
12:35.37morsingAnd where can I download satnav maps for the US?
12:35.46cpufreakmorsing: usenet
12:35.56cpufreakhave you discovered that mysql repllication is crap? :)
12:36.13morsingcpufreak: Usenet is a BBS
12:36.15dick_turpinmorsing: Is that a "Yes" in general or a "Yes I am" ?
12:36.17morsingOf sorts
12:36.39morsingdick_turpin: Well, "good", don't know. Have been using it for many years
12:37.56dick_turpinmorsing: I have two lists that I need to change the designation for 50% of the members
12:38.07morsing"lists"?
12:38.39antiphaseThis sounds like an utterly trivial UPDATE to me
12:39.34morsingdick_turpin: Yes?
12:40.39cpufreakmorsing: usenet is not a BBS...its the best source for warez
12:40.56cpufreak:p
12:41.09morsingwarez. Hmm... Heard that word in '97 from some Windows twat
12:41.16morsingWhat is it?
12:41.18cpufreakespecially if you combine giganews (90+ days retention) with a decent client such as newsleecher.
12:41.25cpufreakas in illicit software.
12:41.36cpufreakwhich your satnav maps would be
12:41.40cpufreakif you're not choosing to pay for them
12:41.44morsingWould they?
12:41.56morsingWhat if they opensource?
12:41.58morsingare
12:45.08cpufreakthat would be unlikely as the mapping companies have restrictions on the use of their data without a valid licence.
12:45.14dick_turpinmorsing: Sorry about that Muppets galore today
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12:50.43morsingcpufreak: Steve is making an opensource map!
12:51.07morsing~seen SteveC
12:51.32ibotstevec <n=steve@host-84-9-44-252.bulldogdsl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 482d 2h 4m 46s ago, saying: 'Heh, Guardian digital is free until the 26th: http://digital.guardian.co.uk/'.
12:51.32cpufreakfrom whose data?
12:51.32morsingHis own
12:51.32cpufreakhe's going around mapping the world?
12:51.44morsingRight...
12:51.54cpufreakthats going to be highly accurate compared to the likes of Ordance Survey who have been doing it for many many years then.
12:52.17morsingBut it's opensource
12:52.38morsingSo it's like any other opensource thing compared to a proffesional thing
12:53.21cpufreak"shit" ? :)
12:53.25morsing:)
12:53.25cpufreaksome opensource stuff is great
12:53.41morsingIs this not him:
12:53.43morsinghttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/euos2006/view/e_spkr/2676
12:53.52morsinghis website is down
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13:13.09morsingrobo_ro!
13:14.42robo_roheya... sorry connection kept flapping there
13:19.10morsingNice
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14:39.40morsingWhat does RewriteCond do?
14:39.49morsingBefore RewriteRule
14:40.01wethrinMatches a particular condition?
14:40.13morsingIt looks weird
14:44.33wethrinIs it a regexp
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15:07.02boudiccasnunc est bibendum!
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15:09.33dick_turpingoibhniu:
15:12.29boudiccasdick_turpin; nunc est bibendum!
15:13.04dick_turpinboudiccas: Whats for tea?
15:13.13boudiccasdick_turpin; nunc est bibendum!
15:13.55dick_turpinboudiccas: Hm, I love Italian
15:14.12boudiccaslatin :)
15:14.50dick_turpinboudiccas: Do I look thick? Latin=Italian
15:15.16boudiccasyou only look thick if you turn sideways on :o))))
15:15.42dick_turpinboudiccas: I'm in a boilling Bunnies mood
15:16.09boudiccasif i turn sideays on i don't look thick, i look fat! :o))))
15:16.19boudiccasdick_turpin; noted!
15:16.32boudiccasproblems with the muppets?
15:17.31boudiccaspork sausages for tea
15:17.38dick_turpinboudiccas: Yep! Twats wanting to ask 30 million questions about £100 printers Tossers
15:18.52boudiccasproviding they buy at the end of it, you can put up with the questioning, its when they don't buy that they become irritations
15:19.31dick_turpinboudiccas: Thats just it 99.9% of the time they go "OK let me think about it" Grrrrrr
15:20.00boudiccasthe price might be higher by the time you've thought about it!
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15:21.44dick_turpinboudiccas: I'm looking round my office and cant see you, you must be here, thats one of my sales tricks "Ooh they're all sold now I can get them from another supplier but they're a bit more expensive"
15:21.49morsingcatalyst!
15:21.59catalystmorsing!
15:22.18boudiccasdick_turpin; ;o)))
15:23.00boudiccas<PROTECTED>
15:23.51dick_turpinboudiccas: I'm in a good mood really one of my customers has been on, they buy 10 Laptops from me about 4 times a year I make between £1500 to £2000 profit from them
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15:24.10boudiccasdick_turpin; nice :)
15:24.20dick_turpinboudiccas: :-)
15:29.27goibhniudick_turpin!
15:31.39dick_turpingoibhniu: That keyboard is discontinued still have a couple of suppliers looking spent a couple of hours on the net this morning but no joy
15:34.51goibhniuthanks dick_turpin, I had a bit of a look for the ultranav ones, they seem to do the trick
15:35.02goibhniu~£60
15:35.09morsingasht_007!
15:35.15goibhniuor £70
15:36.41goibhniue.g. http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase10&prodID=853305
15:37.23goibhniua bit of a legend among keyboards ... nothing wireless around though
15:38.02goibhniuman I would have bought that evo N620C  looks nice!
15:45.04dick_turpingoibhniu: I'm gonna send you another one in a minute (Your not on that list)
15:45.29goibhniugoodie!
15:45.46dick_turpingoibhniu: You'll be amazed
15:50.22dick_turpingoibhniu: Here it comes :-)
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15:51.03cpufreakhttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
15:51.04sylverhi all
15:51.20robo_rohi sylver
15:51.38sylverwhat's up robo
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15:55.26robo_roall quiet on the front
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15:58.23dick_turpingoibhniu: How many units you gonna have then?
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16:05.28LeedsHKdick doesn't stick around, does he?
16:05.36morsingdick sucks
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16:15.02LeedsHKoh good - they *are* going with the buy one, give one away OLPC scheme
16:16.12LeedsHKthat is, you pay for two, you get one, the other one goes somewhere useful as a donation
16:21.44morsingNice
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16:23.09morsingcountd!
16:23.29sabinef72morsing !!!!!!!!
16:23.33morsingsabinef72!
16:23.50sabinef72heyyyyyy
16:23.54sabinef72how are you ?
16:24.14morsingsabinef72: I'm good thanks :)
16:24.30morsingI've been emailing with a lot of existing and old friends today :)
16:24.35morsingHas been really nice
16:24.46sabinef72nice to hear
16:24.47morsingEven been emailing with Rik Turnbul
16:25.08morsingHow are you my dear sabinef72?
16:25.28sabinef72she is all wet
16:25.31sabinef72stupid rain !
16:25.48morsing:)
16:26.36sabinef72I think a hot bath will cheer me up
16:26.42morsingNice
16:26.56wethrinrarr
16:27.32LeedsHKsee, it's been really cold here...  might have fallen below 10C at night once or twice!
16:29.44LeedsHKif I said "the only thing worse than being talked about..." the answer would be?
16:31.37LeedsHKanyone?
16:31.58SlayerXP"it's having to do it whilst using a Mac"
16:32.51LeedsHKbloody hell
16:33.06LeedsHKsabinef72: Annabel has just gone for a bath too...
16:33.49sabinef72LeedsHK: hope she isn't in my bath
16:34.06LeedsHKdoubt it, unless you've come back to Hong Kong and not told me :-)
16:35.22LeedsHKso, are McDonalds doing salt'n'shake chips everywhere, or just in HK?
16:35.24Blaptoor lazy...
16:35.35wethrinLeedsHK: Is not being talked about
16:35.52LeedsHKwethrin: thank you
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16:40.24niv_one_threehere
16:40.34LeedsHKwethrin: ping?
16:41.23LeedsHKniv_one_three: not sure who's around right now, but some of the regulars here are the people I went to FOSDEM with...
16:41.28wethrinLeedsHK: pong?
16:41.59LeedsHKwhat I would suggest, is to get a flight as cheap as you can, then stay with other geeks somewhere cheap... you're not likely to spend much time anywhere near your bed, anyway :-)
16:42.10LeedsHKwethrin: niv_one_three has been asking me about going to FOSDEM, from Israel...
16:42.23wethrinYay!
16:42.31phearlesshi folks
16:42.32wethrinFly to Brussels, ideally
16:42.43LeedsHKbut he was looking at a non-cheap flight/hotel package
16:43.37LeedsHKniv_one_three: unless you want to pay more, of course
16:43.59niv_one_threeI dont
16:44.33niv_one_three770$ is too expensive - as I am going back to school (read Uni) next simester
16:45.27LeedsHKis it the weekend of the 25th?
16:45.45niv_one_threebtw, I will install a raid5 with LVM and boot of it using the shinny new grub 1.95
16:46.02wethrinLeedsHK: Yes
16:46.27wethrin23rd-25th Feb.
16:46.36wethrinThe youth hostel is cheap (15 EUR/night)
16:46.49wethrinI'm booking for 2 nights
16:46.50LeedsHKha ha, it's 2007, not 2006...
16:46.52niv_one_threedo I need to reserve a place?
16:47.13niv_one_threesorry, MAY I reserve a spot?
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16:47.44LeedsHKniv_one_three: you mean in the youth hostel?
16:47.50LeedsHKor at the conference?
16:47.51niv_one_threedoes youth hostels take 31 year old geeks?
16:48.05niv_one_threeI mean resevr a bed
16:48.13antiphaseYou have to do the washing up
16:48.38niv_one_three<PROTECTED>
16:48.58antiphaseI was joking. They're not terribly bothered how old you are
16:48.59niv_one_threeso the cost would be 4*15 euro + flight
16:49.05LeedsHKniv_one_three: ignore antiphase, speak to wethrin
16:49.40LeedsHKniv_one_three: okay, what days are you planning to fly?
16:49.45wethrinniv_one_three: I'm booking for the Fri/Sat and Sat/Sun nights
16:49.46niv_one_threeI guess that if I find a sub 400$ flight I may just make it
16:50.03wethrinIf you want different nights, you can book it at http://hihostels.com
16:50.33goibhniumorsing: aren't you hiring a cadillac and driving us to FOSDEM?
16:50.41wethrinHm. Gone up a bit - 15.50EUR / night
16:51.07LeedsHKibot change 186 gbp to usd
16:51.26LeedsHKniv_one_three: although that would mean flying via Madrid...
16:52.11niv_one_threeno problem with spain
16:54.02LeedsHKthat's what I got asking Expedia for a flight from Ben Gurion to Brussels, leaving on the Friday, returning on the Monday
16:55.56niv_one_three360$ is ok
16:56.00niv_one_three10x
16:58.04LeedsHKyou might be able to do better than that - booking a flight from Israel to Belgium via Spain won't be a speciality of a UK online travel agent
16:58.22LeedsHKup to you, anyway... but it's a very fun weekend, normally :-)
16:59.30niv_one_threeLooks like I should ..
16:59.51niv_one_threebtw, are there any females in these hang outs
16:59.52niv_one_three?
17:00.16LeedsHKa few, but it's certainly not somewhere to go to score...
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17:01.43niv_one_threerelax, I was just asking
17:57.46morsinggoibhniu: No, it's for my holiday
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18:00.56goibhniuoh, what if we pitch in and cover the cost of the petrol?
18:06.37morsingSure, but I'll be in California
18:07.36goibhniumorsing: you're insane
18:11.41morsingHuh? Why?
18:13.22LeedsHKzzzzzzz
18:25.51goibhniumorsing: you'll never make it from california to fosdem in a car, that's crazy talk
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19:20.36morsinglah!
19:30.27gw280yay
19:30.41wethrinwhy?
19:30.54gw280wethrin: finally got my references sorted for my firearms certificate application
19:30.57gw280wethrin: posting them all tomorrow
19:31.02wethrinYay. Who're you referees?
19:31.17wethrinAnd where would you keep the guns? Parents' home?
19:31.23gw280wethrin: my regimental sergeant major
19:31.33gw280wethrin: and at the national shooting centre at Bisley
19:31.39wethrinFrom what I gather, they need to be kept in a cabinet that's fixed permanently to the wall?
19:31.43wethrinAh
19:32.05gw280wethrin: yeah, I'm keeping them in the NRA armoury :)
19:32.45murbgw280: do you have to have an interview as well?
19:32.54gw280murb: may be
19:33.04wethrinIt'll be more fun when you get your own place and can keep the guns there
19:33.07gw280murb: although I've been told they don't normally interview you if you don't intend to store them at your place
19:33.21wethrinHow many referees do you need for the certificate?
19:33.24murbbecause i know in germany at least they won't let young people near firearms anymore after a few kids shot up their class mates.
19:33.57gw280wethrin: two
19:34.10wethrinWho's the other referee, then?
19:34.18gw280wethrin: the owner of a club in Harrow
19:34.25wethrinah
19:35.16gw280rifle club, that is
19:35.18gw280very nice chap
19:35.34wethrinshould've asked mozrat, as an ex-army chap :)
19:35.44gw280wethrin: meh, I already had my RSM
19:35.50gw280wethrin: who's an ex-army master sniper
19:35.53wethrinmm
19:35.55gw280wethrin: and still holds the rank WO1
19:35.57gw280lol
19:36.01wethrinWO1?
19:36.08boudiccaswarrant officer 1
19:36.13wethrinright
19:36.35gw280he has the british army record for the longest confirmed headshot
19:36.36gw280hahaha
19:41.43morsingCheck it!
19:41.53gw280nah
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20:44.32morsinglonnb!
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21:09.45gw280whatever happened to ldnblk?
21:09.49gw280ibot seen ldnblk
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