| 00:40.46 | *** join/#gllug wethrin (i=dankolb@2001:618:400:0:0:0:c3a:df4d) |
| 00:41.36 | wethrin | I'm BACK! From a new colo! |
| 00:55.10 | gw280 | wethrin: YOU WERE LATE? |
| 00:55.23 | gw280 | wethrin: robster's been complaining about you |
| 00:55.27 | gw280 | wethrin: YOU SUCK |
| 00:56.54 | wethrin | Weren't me, guv |
| 00:57.15 | wethrin | morsing got stuck in traffic - some accident caused the A4 to be closed off |
| 00:57.22 | wethrin | So it took him 4 hours to get to the datacentre |
| 01:00.45 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@169.222.9.194) |
| 01:00.46 | gw280 | wethrin: well, you lose heavily. |
| 01:01.02 | wethrin | No, I win, because my server's running |
| 01:01.11 | gw280 | 00:54:17 < robster> never ever run a hosting company |
| 01:01.14 | wethrin | After robster recabled the network a bit |
| 01:01.19 | gw280 | 00:54:31 < robster> you'll be stuck in london until the wee hours because your customer was late |
| 01:01.22 | gw280 | 00:54:46 < robster> and then you'll find the ethernet cables are too short. |
| 01:01.53 | wethrin | It was most unfortunate, and I think everyone was a bit pissed off |
| 01:02.14 | gw280 | doesn't surprise me |
| 01:02.49 | gw280 | wethrin: I just told him I recommended them... I think he's now going to kill me :P |
| 01:02.57 | wethrin | I would be. But, of course, shit happens in traffic. It really wasn't morsing's fault |
| 01:03.31 | wethrin | But if you could pass on my thanks to robster for getting the machines up and running |
| 01:03.47 | gw280 | I would go play with mjg59's OLPC, but he's in .au |
| 01:03.57 | Leeds | gw280: duh |
| 01:05.05 | Leeds | gw280: you know I'm at lca as well, right? |
| 01:05.13 | gw280 | Leeds: no |
| 01:05.22 | Leeds | gw280: I'm at lca as well |
| 01:05.29 | gw280 | I see |
| 01:06.00 | gw280 | I would be there if I wasn't poor and a student. |
| 01:06.12 | wethrin | Sponge off parents |
| 01:06.23 | gw280 | wethrin: ok, I'm also a student and I had exams today |
| 01:06.33 | Leeds | I'm largely here on credit card |
| 01:06.53 | gw280 | eek. |
| 01:06.59 | gw280 | I'm never getting a credit card. ever. |
| 01:07.01 | gw280 | they're evil things |
| 01:07.02 | gw280 | evil. |
| 01:07.49 | Leeds | it's a cashflow thing - I've got the money, or I'm owed it from somewhere else |
| 01:08.58 | gw280 | I see |
| 01:11.38 | wethrin | Credit cards are actually damn useful |
| 01:11.46 | wethrin | Extra buyer protection, etc. etc. |
| 01:12.07 | Leeds | Dean is mass-blogging |
| 01:13.31 | Leeds | I got a c/c in Hong Kong purely so I could spend money online from my current account - I'd have taken a Visa debit card, but they have their own debit network in HK and don't offer Visa debit |
| 01:13.35 | gw280 | night, I'm ill and I probably ought to sleep instead of sitting on IRC and texting people |
| 01:14.11 | Leeds | g'night |
| 01:17.40 | wethrin | nn gw280 |
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| 03:04.10 | Leeds | there appears to be a Mr. Torvalds wandering around outside |
| 04:45.03 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@169.222.9.194) |
| 05:33.37 | murb | moin |
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| 07:25.09 | mozrat | Hey guys |
| 07:53.34 | gregj | http://www.b3tards.com/u/97439b85ce77ffc7ecb7/tescomassacre.jpg |
| 08:11.54 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 08:11.54 | sabinef72 | mozrat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:12.07 | *** join/#gllug SlayerXP (n=martin@gw-colt.fotango.com) |
| 08:25.11 | *** join/#gllug morsing (i=morsing@sov-colo-195-10-223-76.bluelinux.co.uk) |
| 08:26.54 | morsing | 'morning |
| 08:30.00 | morsing | Anyone here? Please? |
| 08:30.24 | SlayerXP | yes |
| 08:31.01 | morsing | SlayerXP: I've got a new IP address on my server but I can't remember the login/password for my domain/DNS login to change it |
| 08:31.21 | SlayerXP | login: henrik |
| 08:31.24 | SlayerXP | password: judo44 |
| 08:31.27 | morsing | uck off |
| 08:31.38 | sabinef72 | morsing ! |
| 08:31.40 | morsing | I emiled them yesterday ut obviously got no reply |
| 08:31.43 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:31.51 | morsing | sabinef72: The book is really funny :) |
| 08:32.04 | SlayerXP | morsing: just think, had you chosen me to host your DNS for you, you wouldn't have this problem :) |
| 08:32.36 | morsing | SlayerXP: You don't host DNS |
| 08:32.45 | SlayerXP | yes, I do |
| 08:32.50 | SlayerXP | for many hundreds of domains |
| 08:32.50 | morsing | It's not "host". It's my TLD pointer! |
| 08:33.01 | sabinef72 | morsing: it's a bit exaggerate but yes it's very very funny |
| 08:33.20 | morsing | I can't change morsing.cc to point at my new IP |
| 08:34.30 | morsing | SlayerXP: So what do I do? |
| 08:34.36 | morsing | Can you change it? |
| 08:35.15 | morsing | HELP |
| 08:35.21 | SlayerXP | I could hire a dance band and ask them to play "Abide With Me" |
| 08:35.35 | morsing | SlayerXP: You're an idiot |
| 08:35.53 | SlayerXP | you're not the first, and you won't be the last, to make that observation |
| 08:36.07 | SlayerXP | but I'm an idiot who has access to his DNS records. |
| 08:36.41 | rhowe | hmm, so, do I build a box with 10 gigE ports, or do I build one with 6, with a couple being trunked to the switch and do VLANs on the host itself? |
| 08:36.50 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 08:37.06 | rhowe | morsing: 'cause I'm going snowboarding! |
| 09:03.06 | z00dax | moin |
| 09:03.41 | z00dax | so then, anyone London based sysadmin type with db skills looking for a really cool job ? |
| 09:05.07 | SlayerXP | <fx> tumbleweed </fx> |
| 09:12.24 | antiphase | What are "db skills" exactly? |
| 09:15.09 | z00dax | moderate dba skills, functional knowledge of sql ( most on pgsql and mysql ) |
| 09:16.31 | z00dax | $clue about data warehouses and data marts ++ |
| 09:45.12 | morsing | 554 mail server permanently rejected message (#5.3.0) |
| 09:45.15 | morsing | Gnnffff |
| 09:46.15 | z00dax | is that your mailserver or is that someone else's mailserver rejecting your emails |
| 09:54.27 | morsing | It's my backup server |
| 09:54.34 | morsing | Run by widge.net |
| 09:54.52 | morsing | wethrin: Just spooling off your held mail... |
| 09:56.25 | z00dax | wow $24 a year for backup MX, isnt easydns a lot better and cheaper ? |
| 09:57.18 | z00dax | humm no they are not |
| 09:58.56 | morsing | z00dax: easydns sucks |
| 09:59.06 | z00dax | howso ? |
| 09:59.15 | morsing | z00dax: How do I change my morsing.cc DNS pointer when I can't remember my login? |
| 09:59.39 | z00dax | login to what ? usually you'd just make a change in the zone file |
| 09:59.54 | z00dax | if you cant get into the machine, init 1, passwd change, init 3, login |
| 10:00.03 | morsing | I don't have access to the zone file. Only very priviledged people do |
| 10:00.18 | morsing | z00dax: I don't have access to any of the TLD servers |
| 10:00.38 | z00dax | err ? |
| 10:00.42 | morsing | Exactly |
| 10:00.46 | morsing | So what to do? |
| 10:00.54 | z00dax | not sure how .cc works - does it not deligate to your own nameservers ? |
| 10:00.56 | morsing | I emailed them yesterday but no response |
| 10:01.06 | morsing | Yes, but it moved! |
| 10:01.30 | z00dax | thats bollocks |
| 10:01.37 | z00dax | your NS is hosted with a third party anyway |
| 10:01.58 | z00dax | you dont have your login for widge.net then ? |
| 10:02.22 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN NS ns2.widge.net. |
| 10:02.22 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN NS 195.10.223.76.morsing.cc. |
| 10:02.22 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN NS ns1.widge.net. |
| 10:02.34 | z00dax | try calling them on the phone ? |
| 10:02.39 | morsing | z00dax: Huh? |
| 10:02.53 | morsing | It's not widge |
| 10:03.01 | morsing | It's enic# |
| 10:03.20 | z00dax | well, either they broke the internet, or it actually is widge.net |
| 10:03.28 | morsing | It's not |
| 10:03.37 | morsing | Widge's just a secondary |
| 10:04.37 | z00dax | that sounds odd, they dont list primary NS in the host record ? |
| 10:04.52 | z00dax | and who is 195.10.223.76 |
| 10:05.07 | z00dax | sov-colo-195-10-223-76.bluelinux.co.uk. |
| 10:05.27 | morsing | That's my server |
| 10:05.38 | morsing | z00dax: That's not the current problem anyway... |
| 10:05.43 | z00dax | i am prolly not being of much help, so I will stop now. really feel no inclination to discover the dns root's of .cc |
| 10:06.00 | morsing | And please don't tell me how my own setup is setup... I set it up! |
| 10:06.17 | z00dax | ok |
| 10:06.29 | sabinef72 | z00dax !!!!!!!! |
| 10:06.33 | z00dax | sabinef72: ! |
| 10:06.34 | sabinef72 | you know what z00dax ? |
| 10:06.35 | morsing | z00dax: Thanks anyway :) |
| 10:06.43 | z00dax | sabinef72: what what ? |
| 10:07.00 | sabinef72 | z00dax: I never received your postcard from India :-( |
| 10:07.07 | z00dax | morsing: just that the only NS listed for your domain seem to be widge.net and you yourself... |
| 10:07.13 | z00dax | sabinef72: really ? |
| 10:07.18 | sabinef72 | yes it's true |
| 10:07.23 | morsing | z00dax: Correct |
| 10:07.24 | z00dax | humm |
| 10:07.50 | z00dax | i am going back there again, so can retry |
| 10:07.58 | sabinef72 | thank |
| 10:08.03 | sabinef72 | when will you go back ? |
| 10:08.14 | z00dax | not sure as yet, but before fosdem |
| 10:08.23 | sabinef72 | When is fosdem ? |
| 10:08.40 | z00dax | end feb |
| 10:09.02 | sabinef72 | ohh so it's soon |
| 10:09.26 | z00dax | www.fosdem.org |
| 10:09.31 | z00dax | are you going to come there ? |
| 10:09.50 | murb | it is trivial to get to brussels from paris. |
| 10:10.02 | z00dax | geekette! |
| 10:10.23 | sabinef72 | hmmm Paris - Bruxelles is around 3 hours by car |
| 10:10.43 | z00dax | or 45 min by train ? |
| 10:10.53 | murb | sabinef72: that prevents you getting no a thalys? |
| 10:11.24 | murb | iirc the train to koeln from paris stops in bruxxels. |
| 10:11.29 | sabinef72 | but thalys is expensive |
| 10:11.38 | murb | sabinef72: they have special offeres. |
| 10:12.08 | sabinef72 | the main problem is I can't leave paris for the moment |
| 10:12.19 | murb | oh you are under city arrest? |
| 10:12.31 | z00dax | http://www.virtualbox.org/ wtf, another Virtualisation tool |
| 10:12.41 | morsing | z00dax: Do you understand how this works? |
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| 10:12.58 | z00dax | morsing: how what works ? virtualbox ? no - not look at it as yet |
| 10:13.04 | murb | z00dax: qemu + an alternatives to kqemu |
| 10:13.04 | morsing | A root TLD server has the DNS record for your top level domain |
| 10:13.13 | morsing | It's not *the* DNS server |
| 10:13.17 | morsing | My server is |
| 10:13.20 | z00dax | murb: is that all it is ? |
| 10:13.29 | murb | z00dax: at the core. |
| 10:13.37 | morsing | But someone who doesn't know where the DNS server is will have to ask a root server |
| 10:13.41 | z00dax | in which case.. pass |
| 10:13.45 | murb | although they've added lots of infrustrucutre arround it. |
| 10:13.50 | morsing | That's what the problem is |
| 10:14.16 | z00dax | morsing: which is what i wanted to know - where your primary was |
| 10:14.25 | morsing | emil.morsing.cc is the primary |
| 10:14.30 | morsing | Which has changed address |
| 10:15.15 | z00dax | but both your secondries are listed with the root ? |
| 10:15.34 | z00dax | as long as they know where to pull from - you should mostly be ok for a while |
| 10:17.39 | tripitaka | I have a 'difficult' installation issue |
| 10:18.08 | tripitaka | A machine in East Africa with no CD-ROM, no USB, no IDE connectors, and it needs CentOS |
| 10:18.16 | z00dax | whats it running now ? |
| 10:18.34 | tripitaka | a virus - crippled XP installation |
| 10:19.05 | SlayerXP | tripitaka: network installs are trivial these days |
| 10:19.18 | SlayerXP | you'll need a local tftpd server, though |
| 10:19.25 | SlayerXP | preferably a local dhcp server, too |
| 10:19.40 | tripitaka | There's another linux server there |
| 10:19.43 | tripitaka | RH9 |
| 10:19.45 | z00dax | does loadlin still work these days ? |
| 10:20.01 | z00dax | rh9 ???? hope thats not on the internet. if it is - hope its well firewalled off |
| 10:20.08 | tripitaka | slayerxp: How would you recommend I approach it? |
| 10:20.36 | sabinef72 | murb: sorry for the lag. No I'm not a murder geek woman. I just have a medical treatment |
| 10:20.56 | SlayerXP | tripitaka: cautiously. |
| 10:21.01 | tripitaka | heh |
| 10:21.08 | tripitaka | holding a big stick |
| 10:21.36 | z00dax | does the machine have a fdd ? centos-3 has fdd install images ( and then once booted install over the internet ) |
| 10:21.48 | tripitaka | yes, it has a floppy |
| 10:22.09 | z00dax | will centos-3 do ? |
| 10:22.14 | tripitaka | recent kernels are too big for floppy though |
| 10:22.28 | tripitaka | it would - I can always upgrade to 4 once it's installed |
| 10:22.34 | morsing | z00dax: What do you get my MX to be? |
| 10:22.36 | z00dax | which is why i made specific ref to centos-3 and the 2.4 kernel |
| 10:23.08 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN MX 10 mx1.widge.net. |
| 10:23.08 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN MX 20 mail.morsing.cc. |
| 10:23.09 | z00dax | morsing.cc. 28800 IN MX 0 mail.morsing.cc. |
| 10:23.20 | morsing | Can you ping mail.morsing.cc? |
| 10:23.39 | morsing | No, it's the wrong address... Hmm... |
| 10:23.47 | morsing | Don't know what to do... |
| 10:24.09 | SlayerXP | morsing: no, nor does it seem to be running a mail server |
| 10:24.55 | morsing | z00dax: There's been an error on my part |
| 10:25.00 | *** join/#gllug goibhniu (n=cillian@grail1.oxfam.org.uk) |
| 10:25.03 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 10:25.33 | *** join/#gllug catalyst (n=catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild) |
| 10:25.35 | z00dax | you have 0 and 20 pointing at the same host ? |
| 10:25.42 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 10:25.48 | antiphase | Backup MX is so 1990s |
| 10:25.56 | morsing | z00dax: Yes, to avoid some spam |
| 10:26.06 | morsing | From the backup |
| 10:26.11 | goibhniu | I expect the server move went smoothly yesterday? |
| 10:26.16 | morsing | antiphase: You suck |
| 10:26.34 | morsing | goibhniu: It most certainly did not. Worst day I've had in years |
| 10:26.34 | catalyst | morning all :) |
| 10:26.38 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 10:26.38 | antiphase | Au contraire, mon chéri, you do ;) |
| 10:26.44 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 10:27.17 | morsing | I can't push DNS record to widge unfortunately |
| 10:27.26 | z00dax | morsing: if you have the primary with you - why not change dns to reflect reality |
| 10:27.37 | z00dax | humm |
| 10:27.46 | morsing | I just did. Forgot yesterday, hence the error |
| 10:27.53 | z00dax | even if you update serial and reload ? surely primary will signal reload to secondary |
| 10:28.00 | morsing | Have to wait now till widge pulls |
| 10:28.09 | morsing | z00dax: They don't support that |
| 10:28.10 | z00dax | it should be instantly |
| 10:28.11 | morsing | I think |
| 10:28.26 | z00dax | that would break dns standards, i would have though. |
| 10:28.47 | goibhniu | ach no! /me is sorry to hear that |
| 10:28.49 | morsing | z00dax: Oh it did :) It's alright now |
| 10:28.54 | morsing | Cool |
| 10:29.19 | morsing | z00dax: Can you send me an email please? |
| 10:29.24 | z00dax | also, btw while you are shifitn all stuff around its a good idea to lower ttl to a few hundreds at best |
| 10:29.41 | morsing | Ok |
| 10:30.53 | morsing | Works :) |
| 10:31.11 | z00dax | cool |
| 10:31.23 | z00dax | good thing i didnt do the dns lookups from my MX machine |
| 10:31.24 | morsing | Still need to sort out the TLD though I'd think |
| 10:31.31 | *** join/#gllug huw-l (n=scmhl2@valiant.cs.cf.ac.uk) |
| 10:31.32 | z00dax | eventually. yes |
| 10:31.33 | morsing | huw-l! |
| 10:31.54 | z00dax | although its usually awrite to have the primary hidden away - people with lots and lots of high dns traffic tend to do that by design |
| 10:33.54 | z00dax | morsing: got your reply, so it works both ways |
| 10:41.01 | wethrin | hello |
| 10:41.03 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 10:41.10 | wethrin | morsing++ # he rocks muchly |
| 10:47.25 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:47.45 | morsing | wethrin: Right, I was definately swaying slightly yesterday |
| 10:48.01 | morsing | Very, very tired, never got anything to eat after lunch |
| 10:48.06 | morsing | Very, very hungry |
| 10:48.16 | morsing | wethrin: Be very nice to secretlondon! |
| 10:48.20 | wethrin | Eek. |
| 10:48.23 | wethrin | I'm always nice! |
| 10:48.25 | morsing | :) |
| 10:48.32 | wethrin | But I really appreciate what you both did yesterday. |
| 10:48.41 | morsing | :) |
| 10:48.43 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:48.47 | wethrin | Definitely! |
| 10:48.51 | wethrin | On me, for both of you. |
| 10:48.52 | morsing | wethrin: I'll come to Durham very soon! |
| 10:48.57 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 10:49.07 | morsing | I Big Red |
| 10:49.09 | morsing | n |
| 10:49.10 | morsing | In |
| 10:49.15 | wethrin | yay! |
| 10:49.20 | morsing | With a valid MOt even |
| 10:49.42 | wethrin | Well. I'm quite busy pretty much every weekend between now and the end of term. But after that is good! |
| 10:50.33 | morsing | Hmm... So August? |
| 10:51.28 | wethrin | Probably. Far too far away :) |
| 10:51.34 | wethrin | Later March, April, May... |
| 10:52.36 | *** join/#gllug Provito (n=Provito@80-193-56-44.cable.ubr06.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 10:52.46 | morsing | wethrin: Can I send two emails in the same thread in Mutt? |
| 10:53.10 | wethrin | Sure - just reply to the parent, and it'll appear below it |
| 10:53.50 | morsing | From the sent folder? |
| 10:54.14 | wethrin | As long as the In-Reply-To: header is there, then yes |
| 10:54.20 | wethrin | What exactly do you want to do? |
| 10:55.05 | morsing | Just send anoter email to someone but if he replies to both I want them to show up as part of the same thread |
| 10:56.07 | wethrin | Ah. That I'm not sure of - it'll depend on his sending mail client :) |
| 10:56.12 | wethrin | However, the 'b' key might be of use |
| 10:56.22 | wethrin | b - redirect an email verbatim |
| 10:56.48 | morsing | Not 'resend' then change data? |
| 10:58.05 | wethrin | I tend to just hit 'b' if I want to forward someone an email |
| 11:01.38 | morsing | Nice |
| 11:05.33 | wethrin | morsing: Is there any queued mail for me left on emil? |
| 11:06.54 | morsing | wethrin: Always... |
| 11:07.08 | wethrin | oh |
| 11:07.14 | wethrin | how much? |
| 11:09.34 | morsing | Don't know. A few hundred? How do I tell? |
| 11:09.47 | morsing | BTW: What's my power and console info/logins? |
| 11:11.35 | wethrin | I don't know. Ask rob :) |
| 11:11.35 | wethrin | Do you have a serial console connected to yours, then? |
| 11:11.56 | wethrin | mailq should tell you |
| 11:12.06 | wethrin | maybe: mailq | grep eco.li | wc |
| 11:12.57 | morsing | wethrin: He said he would connect both servers up. Maybe today. I'll give him a call |
| 11:13.10 | wethrin | Right. I'd do it later on, then |
| 11:13.23 | morsing | Ha ha: |
| 11:13.24 | morsing | emil:/var/spool/postfix# mailq | grep eco.li | wc |
| 11:13.24 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.24 | morsing | emil:/var/spool/postfix# mailq | grep kristne-gym.dk | wc |
| 11:13.24 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.26 | wethrin | Now might still be a bit earl |
| 11:13.30 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:14.25 | wethrin | I presume the servers were both connected to the remote power unit last night? |
| 11:14.44 | wethrin | He won't connect hades up to serial console, though, because he doesn't have the right cable |
| 11:14.49 | wethrin | Do you remember what sort of serial console they had? |
| 11:14.58 | psnl | ah, thats what JD was talking about |
| 11:15.09 | wethrin | eh? |
| 11:15.39 | psnl | no, different thing |
| 11:15.58 | morsing | wethrin: Didn't see it |
| 11:16.05 | morsing | wethrin: http://195.10.223.76/www/munin/morsing.cc/emil.morsing.cc-postfix_mailqueue.html |
| 11:17.12 | wethrin | whee :) |
| 11:17.22 | wethrin | Yes. 18:00 would've been when I turned hades off |
| 11:18.18 | morsing | wethrin: I backup a few domains though. kristne-gym.dk is the worst for spam |
| 11:18.34 | wethrin | spam-- |
| 11:22.03 | morsing | ping Sl |
| 11:22.06 | morsing | ping SlayerXP |
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| 11:36.02 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 11:36.07 | morsing | wethrin: Are you happy? |
| 11:36.33 | wethrin | morsing: Much more than I was yesterday |
| 11:36.37 | wethrin | I've got one less thing to worry about |
| 11:37.22 | morsing | :) |
| 11:37.27 | morsing | Billing? |
| 11:37.37 | wethrin | I've cancelled my standing order with Exonetric |
| 11:37.43 | wethrin | And I'm going to wait until Bluelinux invoice me |
| 11:37.49 | morsing | Oh... Good idea. I never had one |
| 11:37.55 | morsing | Me too |
| 11:38.04 | wethrin | they said they'd give it a week or so to make sure all the stuff works okay |
| 11:38.19 | morsing | My boss has a mate that has half an empty rack at RedBus that we can hire |
| 11:38.38 | morsing | Good. I'm paid on the 25th |
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| 11:39.04 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
| 11:39.07 | morsing | flips_and_rails: Speak! |
| 11:39.09 | wethrin | morsing: Blah. I don't want to move again! |
| 11:39.15 | morsing | :) |
| 11:39.17 | wethrin | But point z00dax at it :) |
| 11:39.41 | flips_and_rails | hello :p |
| 11:39.43 | flips_and_rails | I can speak |
| 11:39.44 | psnl | gllug hosting limited? |
| 11:39.47 | morsing | wethrin: He couldn't put in my rails so we're both on top of some random server |
| 11:40.02 | wethrin | flips_and_rails! |
| 11:40.18 | flips_and_rails | yes I can actually type and speak! |
| 11:40.21 | wethrin | Imperial have finally allowed to you say something? :) |
| 11:40.32 | wethrin | psnl: Very limited :) |
| 11:40.38 | wethrin | morsing: What was wrong with your rails? |
| 11:41.06 | morsing | wethrin: They've cable tied a powerstrip to the rear frame of the rack! |
| 11:41.17 | morsing | Very unproffesional |
| 11:41.46 | antiphase | OMG |
| 11:42.12 | psnl | youch |
| 11:42.36 | psnl | scsi drives hanging out the back don't seem so bad afterall |
| 11:43.10 | antiphase | Budget hosting for the win |
| 11:43.15 | wethrin | My SCSI drive isn't hanging out of the back! |
| 11:43.23 | morsing | They're worse that Exonetric |
| 11:43.36 | wethrin | Oh dear. That is a bit unprofessional. Given that it's easy to get rack-mount power strips |
| 11:44.31 | antiphase | I can't see the problem myself, as long as it's secure |
| 11:45.08 | morsing | antiphase: You're unprofessional as well |
| 11:45.13 | antiphase | There is a short adage about the relationship between money liberated, and the primate quotient of the results |
| 11:45.40 | cpufreak | lol |
| 11:46.13 | goibhniu | flips_and_rails: that's the first thing you've said in 57 days! |
| 11:47.44 | tarragon | Ever had one of those days? Managed to lose three phones. Finally traced them - one in briefcase (house cordless so no use at work), one under child's pillow and one in fridge! |
| 11:48.40 | morsing | tarragon: Did you find any food in the fridge? |
| 11:49.03 | tarragon | Yes, what do you want for lunch? |
| 11:49.24 | flips_and_rails | 57 days, thats awesome |
| 11:49.46 | flips_and_rails | Imperial have me working and not talking ;-) |
| 11:49.49 | goibhniu | flips_and_rails: that's a lot of meditation |
| 11:49.58 | wethrin | tarragon: Why did you have a phone in your fridge? |
| 11:50.20 | wethrin | flips_and_rails: Work is overrated! What do you do at ic.ac.uk anyway? |
| 11:51.13 | tarragon | Someone ended a call while looking in fridge for food. They picked up food and put down phone. I personally blame the blonde haired ones but it could have been anyone except me! |
| 11:52.03 | wethrin | Honest, guv! |
| 11:52.30 | goibhniu | tarragon: if it makes you feel any better I locked my gf in the flat yesterday (by accident) |
| 11:52.40 | morsing | tarragon: Anything you got! Just send it over! |
| 11:52.41 | tarragon | Well, I do not normally go in the kitchen, never mind the fridge |
| 11:52.54 | tarragon | Locked IN? |
| 11:54.09 | morsing | Slow, but it works. Pidgeons are better |
| 11:54.47 | goibhniu | tarragon: well she could have escaped if she wanted, I went to work with her keys as well as my own |
| 11:54.59 | wethrin | morsing: If you want proper professionaism, you're not going to get it from a very cheap colo |
| 11:55.12 | morsing | wethrin: I would get it from Attenda :) |
| 11:55.23 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, I am a researcher! |
| 11:55.27 | wethrin | Hurrah! |
| 11:55.30 | wethrin | Doing what? |
| 11:55.35 | wethrin | morsing: And are they cheap? |
| 11:55.46 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, PhD in fluid mechanics/HPC |
| 11:56.06 | wethrin | Ahha. A mad physics-type |
| 11:56.28 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, Engineering! |
| 11:56.54 | morsing | wethrin: I don't think so :) |
| 11:57.01 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, bit too practical for physics ;-) |
| 11:57.05 | morsing | tarragon: Nice :) |
| 11:59.59 | wethrin | Ahh. So you get to play with big equipment. This is good. |
| 12:00.34 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, it keeps me amused |
| 12:00.39 | wethrin | morsing: Hence my comment above :) |
| 12:00.49 | wethrin | Well, quite. |
| 12:00.58 | flips_and_rails | wethrin, what do you do? |
| 12:01.08 | wethrin | PhD up in Durham. Organic electronics. |
| 12:01.20 | flips_and_rails | Organic?! |
| 12:01.27 | flips_and_rails | sounds interesting |
| 12:01.30 | wethrin | Yarr. |
| 12:01.45 | flips_and_rails | how do you get organic electronics to remain stable? |
| 12:01.51 | wethrin | No no no no NO! Threshold voltage should NOT be positive! |
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| 12:02.06 | wethrin | flips_and_rails: Pentacene is a very stable material |
| 12:02.11 | antiphase | positive wrt what though? ;) |
| 12:02.22 | wethrin | wrt ground :) |
| 12:03.20 | flips_and_rails | I see so we aren't talking bits of organic matter, that makes more sense (feels daft for jumping to conclusions) |
| 12:03.44 | wethrin | There really shouldn't be 2µA at 0V |
| 12:03.48 | wethrin | Yes. Plastic material |
| 12:03.52 | wethrin | If you so prefer |
| 12:04.38 | flips_and_rails | What are the applications of the tech? |
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| 12:05.10 | wethrin | control for OLED TVs, etc. |
| 12:05.26 | tarragon | How are you laying down the Pentene? What fractal dimension are you looking for? |
| 12:05.26 | flips_and_rails | I see, sounds pretty cool |
| 12:05.54 | wethrin | tarragon: Pentacene, not pentene |
| 12:05.56 | wethrin | Different materials :) |
| 12:06.02 | wethrin | Thermal evaporation |
| 12:06.28 | tarragon | How are you laying down the Pentacene? What fractal dimension are you looking for? |
| 12:06.53 | wethrin | Thermal evaporation |
| 12:07.10 | tarragon | On to glass? |
| 12:07.18 | wethrin | Silicon/silicon oxide |
| 12:07.39 | wethrin | Eeeentersting..... |
| 12:08.10 | wethrin | This one don't work properly... |
| 12:09.01 | phearless | hi #gllug ! ! ! |
| 12:09.21 | phearless | the weather is boring :( |
| 12:10.19 | wethrin | I'm stuck in a room iwith no windows |
| 12:11.59 | tarragon | Rain here :-( |
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| 12:16.05 | tarragon | Leeds!! |
| 12:16.31 | wethrin | Hrrrrmmmmm |
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| 12:19.43 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 12:21.37 | Leeds | evening all! |
| 12:21.48 | murb | morning early afternoon leeds. |
| 12:23.07 | Leeds | so... Linus is now wandering around Sydney... |
| 12:24.34 | Leeds | came home tonight with three more t-shirts than I had this morning... |
| 12:25.28 | wethrin | yay! |
| 12:25.49 | goibhniu | Leeds! .. are you in Sydney now? |
| 12:27.07 | Leeds | yes I am |
| 12:27.34 | goibhniu | cool! does it smell more or less than london? |
| 12:30.45 | goibhniu | anyone know of a good metropolis that has recently had a property crash but has buckets of jobs for developers? |
| 12:31.17 | phearless | sydney looks cool ! |
| 12:31.28 | phearless | Leeds: are you here for holidays or to look for a job? |
| 12:33.27 | phearless | is raid1 more "secure" than raid5 ? |
| 12:34.12 | antiphase | what? |
| 12:34.20 | antiphase | You mean more fault tolerant? |
| 12:34.34 | wethrin | Raid1 allows for one disk failure per array. So does Raid 5. |
| 12:35.17 | antiphase | And by deduction we can assume that since RAID5 requires at least 3 disks, it is more likely to sustain a failure than a pair of mirrored disks in any given time period |
| 12:35.34 | Leeds | it smells less... |
| 12:35.57 | Leeds | phearless: I'm here partly because Sydney is a nice place to be in January... partly to see my family... but mainly for linux.conf.au |
| 12:36.47 | murb | Leeds: your family are in .au as well? |
| 12:37.14 | Leeds | got aunt/uncle/cousins here, but only my aunt is in town... one of the cousins will be in HK next week :-) |
| 12:37.20 | phearless | antiphase, wethrin : I am hesitating between 2x2 RAID1 drives , or 3 RAID5 drives, to get the same capacity (of 2 hard drives) |
| 12:37.38 | wethrin | How important is the data? |
| 12:37.41 | phearless | with 2 HD mirrored, I got 2 HD capacity |
| 12:37.53 | phearless | and with 3 HD in RAID5 I got 2 HD capacity, too |
| 12:38.04 | phearless | it is just "important" |
| 12:38.11 | wethrin | Of course, RAID isn't a substitution for backup |
| 12:38.16 | phearless | yes |
| 12:38.27 | phearless | <Leeds> phearless: I'm here partly because Sydney is a nice place to be in January... partly to see my family... but mainly for linux.conf.au <---- ok cool :) |
| 12:38.46 | wethrin | So as long as you have a good backup strategy going, then RAID-5 should be sufficient |
| 12:38.50 | phearless | okay |
| 12:39.04 | tarragon | So for 2 HD capacity to either buy three or four disks. |
| 12:39.12 | Leeds | this afternoon, Linus was wandering around the courtyard on campus on a home-made open-source Segway |
| 12:39.35 | phearless | I will go for RAID5 |
| 12:39.39 | phearless | and buy a spare HD |
| 12:39.58 | phearless | home-made open-source Segway?!?! |
| 12:40.07 | phearless | must be dodgy :D |
| 12:40.31 | tarragon | depends on what you are running on it? Raid5 hits all the disks hard |
| 12:40.31 | antiphase | Anything that's named after a mis-spelling must be shit |
| 12:40.41 | Leeds | http://lca2007.linux.org.au/talk/185 - it seemed to work... if it didn't, we'd be down at least one kernel guy and one X guy, since keithp had a go on it as well |
| 12:41.00 | goibhniu | antiphase: like google |
| 12:41.08 | phearless | yes, tarragon |
| 12:41.17 | phearless | you are right ... |
| 12:41.35 | antiphase | Disk array in using the disks shocker :-O |
| 12:42.33 | goibhniu | Leeds: that looks way better than the original |
| 12:43.41 | Leeds | goibhniu: it did look fun... would like to make the talk |
| 12:44.39 | goibhniu | it would be pretty cool if it didn't have the handle bar |
| 12:47.04 | goibhniu | Leeds: have you seen the greenphone? |
| 12:47.58 | goibhniu | "gnome love session" :D |
| 12:48.21 | Leeds | goibhniu: yeah, pdr's brother let me play with it a while ago at the big ITU show in HK... they demoed it yesterday, I was at the session... was also at pdr's session this afternoon :-) |
| 12:49.19 | morsing | Leeds: I'm *very* excited to see you :) |
| 12:49.46 | Leeds | hiya morsing... |
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| 12:50.42 | goibhniu | looks like a very nice conference |
| 12:50.46 | murb | antiphase: don't forget to have a hotspare. |
| 12:50.49 | Leeds | it is |
| 12:50.54 | Leeds | very tiring as well |
| 12:51.15 | Leeds | oh, and I finally got to fondle an OLPC machine... boy, are those things cute |
| 12:51.33 | goibhniu | Leeds: stop having fun goddamit! |
| 12:51.56 | Leeds | yeah, I know, I've got work to do when I get back |
| 12:55.00 | murb | Leeds: have you booked your fosdem flights yet? |
| 12:55.47 | Leeds | murb: there shall be no fosdem flights, almost certainly |
| 12:56.17 | murb | :( |
| 13:01.45 | tarragon | Are there any good talks at Fosdem this year? |
| 13:05.17 | morsing | No |
| 13:05.51 | tarragon | Just beer then |
| 13:05.55 | morsing | Yes |
| 13:05.59 | morsing | And lots of it! |
| 13:06.44 | Leeds | Jono was saying that Damien almost offered him a keynote... |
| 13:06.55 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:07.04 | morsing | Not you then? |
| 13:07.06 | Leeds | but instead, he's probably not going |
| 13:07.20 | Leeds | no, I didn't offer Jono a keynote at all |
| 13:08.33 | z00dax | wethrin: morsing: who has half a rack ? and how much money do they want to hire it out ? |
| 13:08.45 | Leeds | z00dax: you mean one breast? |
| 13:08.47 | z00dax | ( I presume this is half a 40/42/44U rack ) |
| 13:09.12 | z00dax | Leeds: um.... even one at 40 or 42 or 44U would be more breast than most can handle |
| 13:09.14 | wethrin | There was one talk that looked very interesting at Fosdem |
| 13:10.08 | wethrin | oh, two. ReactOS and LinuxBIOS |
| 13:16.02 | morsing | Check it! |
| 13:17.33 | eyore | at last a major uk mobile network is ditching roaming charges and allowing free mins to be used abroad |
| 13:17.34 | eyore | about time |
| 13:18.22 | Leeds | yeah, I saw that... 3 - aka Hutchison |
| 13:18.45 | eyore | only because the industry is now under investigation |
| 13:18.46 | Leeds | a good Hong Kong company :-) |
| 13:19.04 | eyore | they probably predict that it will go against them and thought they might get some good PR by being first |
| 13:19.11 | eyore | i'm on 3 |
| 13:19.29 | eyore | only because it was the best cashback deal on carphonewarehouse though :) |
| 13:19.58 | Leeds | I assumed it was more a loss leader - yet another attempt to get more people to sign up |
| 13:20.16 | Leeds | anyway, sleep time... |
| 13:20.20 | eyore | doubt it would make that many people jump ship |
| 13:20.24 | eyore | nn |
| 13:20.31 | morsing | ibot nn |
| 13:20.41 | ibot | nini |
| 13:20.41 | Leeds | might make me jump |
| 13:22.12 | wethrin | Ohh.....that's quite nice of 3 to do that |
| 13:24.36 | eyore | i doubt they did it for "nice" reasons |
| 13:24.44 | eyore | it's about time, it's been such a rip off |
| 13:25.15 | murb | Leeds: i notice you can roam for free in .hk with 3 |
| 13:25.22 | murb | atleast for data. |
| 13:33.46 | z00dax | wethrin: morsing: if someone has space in a rack, i am interested.. dont need much b/w |
| 13:41.39 | morsing | z00dax: 6U? |
| 13:41.54 | murb | z00dax: how much power do you require? |
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| 14:15.10 | goibhniu | anyone running IE7 on wine? |
| 14:16.15 | goibhniu | I'm wondering if anyone has the internet options bit working ... it probably requires the whole UI tho ... just wanna enable cookies |
| 14:22.35 | tarragon | I have 5, 5.5 and 6 all fine with the ie4linux project |
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| 14:47.16 | goibhniu | tarragon: yeah, it's great ... and you can install ie7 with that too but it's the ie7 engine inside ie6 so it's a little honky |
| 14:47.31 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 14:47.57 | goibhniu | morsing! |
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| 14:51.05 | goibhniu | tarragon: webdev? |
| 14:51.14 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 14:51.31 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 15:07.10 | tripitaka | I'm on MSN messenger, talking someone in Somalia through a network install which I have never tried before. Somewhat taxking. |
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| 15:20.07 | wethrin | ARGGGGGHHHHHH |
| 15:26.18 | tripitaka | it's taken me 12 minutes to get a successful `cat /etc/resolv.conf` |
| 15:31.29 | popey | is mozrat still about? |
| 15:31.38 | popey | not here, but in general LUG-wise? |
| 15:32.10 | popey | his beerandspeech.org home page seems down |
| 15:32.17 | popey | did I miss something? |
| 15:32.43 | antiphase | Your Mum was just here |
| 15:32.58 | antiphase | She said don't forget to wash your little soldier every day |
| 15:33.00 | wethrin | tripitaka: Thanks :) |
| 15:33.33 | wethrin | popey: He's sort-of hiding |
| 15:34.03 | popey | oh |
| 15:34.06 | wethrin | Aha. (Paul Lee)++ # making a point on the Gllug list which I've often made IRL |
| 15:34.12 | popey | thats a shame |
| 15:34.22 | popey | hope he is ok |
| 15:36.26 | wethrin | I think he's doing alright |
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| 15:47.34 | popey | good |
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| 15:56.11 | popey | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.14 | popey | bah |
| 15:56.56 | wethrin | ha ha! |
| 16:02.33 | morsing | GEORGE! |
| 16:50.43 | wethrin | Thyme |
| 16:52.01 | tarragon | A guess or have you licked George as well? |
| 16:53.27 | wethrin | A guess |
| 17:50.07 | goibhniu | cpufreak: windows is crap |
| 17:51.26 | cpufreak | why are you telling me that |
| 17:52.11 | goibhniu | sorry, I had to tell someone, and I know you care |
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| 18:22.15 | eyore | heh at last i have desktop effects working. lol |
| 18:22.21 | eyore | this was a good use of my time! |
| 18:22.45 | eyore | hey it's great! |
| 18:24.10 | goibhniu | eyore: yipee!! |
| 18:24.22 | eyore | lol, this is going to keep me entertained for hours |
| 18:24.28 | goibhniu | beryl? |
| 18:24.36 | eyore | compiz |
| 18:25.09 | goibhniu | ahh ... rockin! |
| 18:27.00 | eyore | live the virtual desktop changing |
| 18:27.30 | goibhniu | I never used virtual desktops tbh ... I can't live without the wobble and transparency though |
| 18:27.55 | goibhniu | scale and window grouping are nice too, but I don't tend to have that many windows open at a time |
| 18:27.57 | eyore | bloody hell it does the osX expose stuff too |
| 18:28.15 | goibhniu | are you using gnome? |
| 18:28.37 | eyore | yes |
| 18:28.44 | eyore | lol you can just drag a window round the cube |
| 18:29.11 | goibhniu | If you're interested I've got a version of gnome-launch-box that I find polishes off things nicely |
| 18:29.28 | goibhniu | just hit ctrl+f1 and start typing to start an app .. or open a file |
| 18:29.35 | goibhniu | and it looks nice imo |
| 18:30.25 | eyore | i'm going to be stuck at work for another 30mins atleast now! |
| 18:30.39 | goibhniu | :D |
| 18:32.18 | eyore | oh no! starting to feel sea sick |
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| 18:34.15 | Cope | hullo |
| 18:35.42 | cpufreak | lo |
| 18:35.44 | cpufreak | :( |
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| 18:42.16 | Cope | hello xotl |
| 18:42.27 | eyore | this really is not too shabby at all. i prefer some of it to the osX effects |
| 18:42.29 | xotl | hi Cope |
| 18:43.03 | Cope | eyore: what is "this" / |
| 18:43.05 | Cope | ? |
| 18:43.08 | eyore | compi |
| 18:43.09 | eyore | z |
| 18:43.32 | eyore | I know, i'm a bit late to the whole composite rendering on linux scene |
| 18:43.38 | Cope | oh... lots of poo |
| 18:43.42 | eyore | but i finally got it working on a new graphics card |
| 18:43.43 | xotl | is it actually useful or is it just eye candy? |
| 18:44.01 | eyore | it's just eye candy but actually it is damned good eye candy. |
| 18:44.16 | xotl | seems a bit like a gimmick to me |
| 18:44.56 | eyore | sure, although the basic not-redrawing window contents thing seems more like a bug fix for the last 15 years of desktop computing. |
| 18:45.27 | xotl | well thats something at least |
| 18:45.29 | eyore | makes things feel a lot less hacky |
| 18:45.45 | eyore | paricularly when moving windows over firefox etc, |
| 18:46.29 | xotl | don't suppose there are any mailing list admins around at the moment are there? |
| 18:47.25 | xotl | I want to announce the UK PHP conference, just thought I'd better check that its ok |
| 18:54.41 | Cope | no |
| 18:54.52 | Cope | under no circumstances can we allow a uk php conference |
| 18:55.16 | xotl | tarragon: my private msg was blocked cos my nick is not registered, but thanks I'll do that |
| 18:55.18 | tarragon | :-) |
| 18:55.41 | xotl | I'm nervous about the reaction from the Perl crowd |
| 18:55.51 | xotl | :-) |
| 18:56.16 | Cope | lol |
| 18:56.27 | tarragon | No need to be, PHP is as unsecure as perl ! |
| 18:56.58 | xotl | tarragon: you must have donned your asbestos suit :-) |
| 18:57.06 | Cope | well, expect to be flamed for advocating such a shoddy, insecure, badly implemented and inconsistent excuse for a vague attempt to produce something resembling a scripting language. |
| 18:57.41 | Cope | and now I must put children to bed |
| 18:57.43 | tarragon | Nah, Perl can be secure sometimes...Oh you meant Php.... |
| 18:57.58 | xotl | Cope: you guys have to support it so its best to know your enemy |
| 18:58.02 | xotl | tarragon: lol |
| 18:58.46 | xotl | tarragon: would it also be ok to send a reminder out a couple of days before? not essential... |
| 18:59.24 | tarragon | Yes Of course. It all depends on which admin is logged in at any particular time to clear down the spam |
| 18:59.25 | xotl | actually PHP is not that insecure itself |
| 18:59.43 | xotl | tarragon: ok, sure thanks |
| 19:00.03 | xotl | its just PHP coders that write insecure code |
| 19:00.42 | gw280 | compiz is a complete waste of time. |
| 19:02.20 | xotl | gw280: aren't you impressed by the wiggly windows? |
| 19:02.29 | gw280 | xotl: no |
| 19:02.39 | gw280 | xotl: I don't care much for eye candy |
| 19:02.52 | gw280 | xotl: my desktop usually consists of a full screen konsole window |
| 19:03.15 | xotl | gw280: not a graphics guy, then |
| 19:03.30 | xotl | gw280: I hear you are a kde hacker |
| 19:03.41 | gw280 | fsvo kde hacker |
| 19:04.17 | xotl | whats fsvo? |
| 19:04.23 | gw280 | ibot fsvo |
| 19:04.32 | ibot | well, fsvo is For Some Value Of |
| 19:05.00 | gw280 | s/Value/Variants |
| 19:05.12 | xotl | uh, right. what do you work on? |
| 19:05.17 | gw280 | nothing |
| 19:05.28 | xotl | used to work on...? |
| 19:05.36 | gw280 | I refuse to disclose this information :P |
| 19:06.17 | xotl | I don't use kde so I wouldn't have any judgement about whatever you did work on anyway |
| 19:06.45 | gw280 | I probably ought to do some work |
| 19:06.49 | gw280 | but I'm ill |
| 19:06.51 | gw280 | gah |
| 19:07.36 | gw280 | tarragon: heh, I have lots of lemsip max I bought today |
| 19:07.43 | gw280 | tarragon: I don't have a kettle though |
| 19:08.11 | Cope | hello george |
| 19:08.12 | xotl | just drink it cold it'll still work |
| 19:08.15 | gw280 | hi Cope |
| 19:08.36 | gw280 | Cope: I failed physics |
| 19:08.43 | Cope | bother |
| 19:08.56 | gw280 | Cope: I reckon I got a 2.i/1 in maths and a 2.i/2.ii in compsci though |
| 19:09.00 | Cope | is that because you did absolutely no work? |
| 19:09.04 | gw280 | Cope: yeah. |
| 19:09.18 | gw280 | crazy thing is, I did the least work of all in maths |
| 19:09.44 | Cope | ~seen stoatonaboat |
| 19:10.10 | ibot | Cope: i haven't seen 'stoatonaboat' |
| 19:10.11 | gw280 | right, I'm heading into college |
| 19:10.12 | Cope | ok |
| 19:22.21 | z00dax | murb: about 0.4Amps per U |
| 19:34.11 | z00dax | morsing: all well ? |
| 19:34.37 | morsing | Not really |
| 19:35.15 | z00dax | damn |
| 19:43.30 | morsing | Do you care? |
| 19:50.03 | z00dax | depends on what it is |
| 19:50.24 | z00dax | is it a fun hack ? |
| 20:16.19 | gregj | how would you guys recieve sentence "note to self" |
| 20:20.55 | gregj | you wouldn't :>, rrrright |
| 20:23.28 | gregj | it sounds not okay to me, but google says something else.. so.. |
| 20:23.31 | gregj | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=note+to+self&defid=751160 |
| 20:35.14 | Leeds | gregj: 'note to self' is normally a rhetorical device, used either when you want to tell someone something, but phrase it as telling yourself, or as a self-deprecating way of admitting a mistake |
| 20:37.10 | Leeds | for example, you could say "note to self: drinking too much makes head hurt" when you're in the office in the morning, meaning either "oh, $COLLEAGUE, I see you had too much to drink last night and are now in pain" or "argh, I had too much to drink and I'm now in pain" |
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| 21:31.31 | wethrin | roar |
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| 21:49.48 | Gunde | What is a "French dinner"? |
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| 23:02.00 | wethrin | Quiet here tonight |
| 23:02.26 | murb | shoosh |
| 23:07.04 | lonnb | seems to be so ... |
| 23:13.06 | adminjs | whats happening |
| 23:14.30 | wethrin | I'm buying stuff from CPC |
| 23:15.05 | psnl | oh, I failed to get back to you about that |
| 23:15.32 | wethrin | Yes. Be very quick. |
| 23:20.37 | adminjs | are they cheap? |
| 23:21.38 | rhowe | hmm |
| 23:21.44 | wethrin | Depends for what |
| 23:21.45 | rhowe | nobody turned up to my social meet! |
| 23:21.54 | wethrin | And I'm getting it delivered to Durham |
| 23:21.58 | wethrin | That was rubbish of them! |
| 23:22.02 | rhowe | (well, unless they were there for the suggested time, and didn't hang around for me to turn up) |
| 23:22.05 | rhowe | I was 40mins late |
| 23:22.16 | wethrin | Slacker |
| 23:22.43 | z00dax | wethrin: are you sure its CPC and not CDC :) |
| 23:22.47 | z00dax | rhowe: what social ? |
| 23:22.56 | rhowe | z00dax: The one I posted to gllug-social this lunchtime |
| 23:23.15 | z00dax | also, who all are going for tomorrows dc4420 meet ? |
| 23:23.27 | rhowe | dc4420? |
| 23:24.13 | z00dax | http://www.dc4420.org/ |
| 23:24.31 | wethrin | z00dax: Yes |
| 23:24.35 | wethrin | CPC/Farnell |
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| 23:24.52 | z00dax | wethrin: I have no idea who / what that is |
| 23:25.02 | z00dax | I know of a CDC that used to exist in the dark ages |
| 23:26.09 | wethrin | www.cpc.co.uk |
| 23:26.14 | wethrin | Suppliers of everything |
| 23:26.16 | Jasperw | cult of the dead cow? |
| 23:26.30 | z00dax | Jasperw: no, not that cdc - but i remember that cdc too |
| 23:26.34 | wethrin | You might even be able to get Jurgen a new tin-foil hat :) |
| 23:27.31 | z00dax | he needs one |
| 23:28.20 | adminjs | no i need a scanner |
| 23:29.07 | z00dax | didnt know _that_ |
| 23:31.01 | wethrin | I have some SCSI scanners at home |
| 23:31.58 | z00dax | scsi rfid scanners ? |
| 23:32.12 | z00dax | ohhhhhhhhhhhh.. I bet they are faster than ide rfid scanners |
| 23:32.15 | rhowe | z00dax: Even Counterpane is BT now :) |
| 23:32.33 | wethrin | :) |
| 23:32.57 | z00dax | counterpane i knew about |
| 23:33.13 | z00dax | btw, who is covering sgi's ass these days ? |
| 23:34.24 | rhowe | Google? |
| 23:34.37 | rhowe | z00dax: Surely SGI is self-sufficient? :P) |
| 23:36.04 | z00dax | they are under a finance controller at the moment |
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| 23:56.12 | gw280 | lalala |
| 23:56.35 | psnl | gw280: drink more |
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| 23:59.53 | wethrin | Leeds! You're using Slackware? |
| 23:59.53 | gw280 | psnl: no |
| 23:59.54 | gw280 | I'm ill |
