irclog2html for #gllug on 20070124

06:48.27morsing'morning
06:48.57trousers_Howdy
06:49.21morsingtrousers_!
06:49.54trousers_morsing!
06:52.16morsingUp early?
06:52.23morsingPlaying in the snow?
06:53.14trousers_Nope, just school
06:53.21trousers_There's snow?
06:53.57trousers_So there is!
06:58.09morsingSo how are you going to get to school?
06:58.21trousers_Bicycle, as per usyal
06:58.29trousers_s/ya/ua/
06:58.38morsingNice
06:59.08trousers_And reverse engineering looks quite funky :D
07:00.01morsingReally?
07:23.45morsingwethrin?
08:11.59morsingHow doI bring a netbackup drive up?
08:14.31morsingHello??
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08:28.54morsingcatalyst!
08:29.04morsingcatalyst: Why's Christine tired?
08:29.53catalystgood morning :)
08:30.02catalysterr, maybe she's been running?
08:30.43morsingHmm...
08:37.50sabinef72morning all
08:38.14morsingsabinef72!
08:39.07sabinef72hi morsing
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08:48.47goibhniusnow!
08:49.20goibhniu!!
08:52.57serrisindeed
08:52.58serris!
08:52.58serrisI just got back from a snow fight with my step son
08:52.58serrisI can't feel my fingers
08:52.58goibhniuYay!
08:53.02sabinef72snow in England ?
08:53.05serrisyeah
08:53.30serrisAnd I'm lucky! My annoying neighbour has a big merc, can't seem to figure out how to drive it in and he might wreck it. Double the fun
08:53.56goibhniuhooray! .. youtube it!
08:53.58serrisin the snow/wet moosh on the road^
08:54.09morsinggoibhniu!
08:54.16goibhniuhahaha!!!
08:54.20serrisI wish. He was spinning the  back wheels out while turning into the road and didn't seem to have much control
08:55.03goibhniusucker!!
08:55.42serrisYeah the only downside is my wife was taking pictures and I accidentally hit her camera and she wasn't pleased with me
08:58.31goibhniuit's difficult to contain oneself in these circumstances, she'll see the funny side ... eventually
08:58.51serrisshe did. She took about a gig of pictures and the camera is fine
08:59.38goibhniu:D
09:00.30serrisShe made us all hot chocolate but I still have no feeling in my hands/fingers
09:04.01goibhniuif it's frostbite you have to chop em off
09:04.42serrisI don't mind. I'll get a load of money for 'em
09:07.39goibhniuahh ... insurance! good idea!
09:08.13goibhniuit'll take a while to learn to touch type with your toes though
09:08.41serrisWell if people can use chop sticks with their toes and spoon down noodles, I'll be able to learn to touch type
09:08.44serrisHopefully
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09:49.07morsingSlayerXP!
09:49.15SlayerXPgrrrr
09:57.45morsingCheck it!
09:58.37phearlesshi guys!
10:00.03goibhniuphearless: we are a mixed gender folk here :D
10:02.06morsingphearless!
10:08.20z00daxsnow!
10:10.42morsingNice
10:13.22bilarhI still maintain that "hi guys" doesn't necessarily exclude other genders, as it's used in the same way as "hi folks"
10:13.37bilarhbut I'll keep saying "hi folks" to avoid arguments :)
10:14.01bilarhis "peeps" acceptable? isntead of people?
10:14.07bilarhit feels less formal
10:15.39z00daxhiya you peeps, greeks and freaks
10:15.55z00daxbilarh: yes, you are right, you are the only freak here.
10:16.03goibhniubilarh: peeps is rude ... it sounds erm ... american, racism is ok here
10:16.43bilarhah, but i'm a johnny foreigner :-)
10:17.25goibhniubilarh: we're ALL foreign here
10:17.36goibhniuexcept trousers_ or course
10:17.42goibhnius/or/of
10:18.29bilarhi'm foreign in some parts of the world :0
10:21.10z00daxthe whole idea of foreign is a bit grey on irc
10:21.41z00daxmust you be local to the network ? the server ? the idea ? or the intended idea of where the local group is geographically based ? or could be ?
10:22.46morsingmurb!
10:22.50morsingantiphase: Yes you are
10:22.52murbmoosing!
10:25.49morsingNice
10:26.14murbLeeds: but you probably don't have snow.
10:26.19Leedsthat is true
10:30.49tripitakaI can see a little snow on the roof of a building in Bishopsgate. Apart from that, London may as well be in a different country
10:34.52goibhniuz00dax: the concept of foreign is a pretty weak concept in any context I guess
10:39.22goibhniuLeeds: where are you not a foreigner?
10:39.40Leedsgoibhniu: in the UK
10:42.11goibhniuLeeds: Scotland?
10:43.31Leedsno, I would not say I was a foreigner in Scotland
10:43.50murba colonia overlord maybe.
10:44.15goibhniuLeeds: scottish people might tho
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10:47.44goibhniumumperer: how's it?
10:48.55morsingLeeds?
10:48.58morsingmurderer!
10:50.38Blaptogood morning
10:51.33mumpererMorning! Well not, actually. I did do the "from root" exercise, without harm apparently leaving me fairly convinced that a part of the software that ran the scanner was passed on during a few distro installations - bar the preceding one. So I might have to seek it and install it? - That's how it seems this morning, anyway!
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10:52.59mumpererSorry - identification: it can't find snapscan. Helpful?
10:53.24goibhniumumperer: so you've got a few different installations on that machine ... and some of them made the scanner make impressive noises or something?
10:54.11goibhniumumperer: did you look at that forum post that tarragon (I think?) found for you?
10:54.58goibhniuI followed some recipe to get it working but I've no idea what it was off the top of my head
10:57.43mumpererNot making myself too clear again (as SWMBO frequently indicates): I have no distro other than Ubuntu installed. Each new install was complete, through Suse 10, 10.1, 10.2, Mephis (failed), and Ubuntu. Scanner only under Suse, then removed scanner. Plugged it into this Ubuntu set-up ...
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10:59.19morsingwetelectric!
10:59.32wetelectricGood moooaning
10:59.47wethrinmorsing?
11:00.01mikejwhey guys
11:00.12morsingwethrin!
11:00.15wetelectricWatch an 'allo allo' marathon lastnight
11:00.23wethrinHi!
11:00.26goibhniumikejw!!! the term is persons!
11:00.41wetelectricpersoni
11:01.00mikejweh?
11:01.30goibhniuwe are polygenderous
11:01.32morsingmikejw: You suck
11:01.41morsinggoibhniu: So is guys
11:01.59goibhniu~seen guys
11:02.03ibotguys <~ash@adsl-68-126-235-17.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 619d 13h 33m 32s ago, saying: 'funk'.
11:02.47wetelectricah that is an ibot
11:02.57goibhniusorry guys, mikejw, phearless, bilarh
11:03.28wetelectricmmm thought i'd pay a visit. Said I would when I talked to that guy at the last linuxworld
11:03.35phearless~seen tux
11:03.37ibottux <n=Miranda@p54973703.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 66d 2h 40m 45s ago, saying: 'is there a command doe downgrade from etch to sarge?'.
11:03.38phearless~seen linux
11:03.40ibotlinux <LinuxPakis@202.61.60.177> was last seen on IRC in channel #linuxpakistan, 761d 19h 40m 58s ago, saying: 'i want help'.
11:03.51phearless~seen ibot
11:03.53ibotibot is currently on #gpe (16d 6h 9m 37s) #bzflag (16d 6h 9m 37s) #familiar (16d 6h 9m 37s) #kierra (16d 6h 9m 37s) #brlcad (16d 6h 9m 37s) #utah (16d 6h 9m 37s) #oe (16d 6h 9m 37s) #zaurus (16d 6h 9m 37s) #gllug (16d 6h 9m 37s) #pillbox (16d 6h 9m 37s) #openzaurus (16d 6h 9m ...
11:03.56morsingwetelectric: What guy?
11:04.28wetelectricumm looks like a mad professor
11:04.36wetelectriccool guy though
11:05.02wetelectrichang on i'll find his picture.
11:05.28wethrintoresbe: This 'resiak' chap would be Will Thompson, would it?
11:05.32wethrinoops
11:05.43wetelectricummm white beard?
11:06.48morsingwetelectric: Evil Dave?
11:07.11morsingwetelectric: wethrin looks like a mad processor
11:07.17wethrinDo I?
11:07.37Leedswethrin: the regular resiak on #lugradio?
11:07.55wetelectricah some many mad-prof types... must be unix
11:07.57wetelectric;)
11:08.53morsinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_processor
11:10.46wethrinLeeds: I don't know. I know a resiak from OxIRC
11:10.48wetelectric...
11:11.10wetelectricThere's lugradio?
11:11.22wetelectric<----- lug n00b
11:12.04Leedswetelectric: it's a podcast - or it is now, but it's quite possible it predates 'podcasting'
11:12.11Leeds#lugradio is the associated IRC channel
11:13.20wetelectricbah don't use the term 'podcast'
11:13.28Leedswhy not?
11:13.30wetelectrichow about..umm.. netcast
11:13.52wetelectricWell its an ugly term.
11:13.54Leedswhat's wrong with podcast?
11:14.30wetelectricI dont own an apple IPOD and naming an opensource netcast after a drm'd up device seems... wrong
11:14.37wethrinnetcast implies something you can only listen to when you're connected to an interwebnet
11:14.43wetelectrictrue
11:14.46morsingBeer
11:15.03morsingHow about beercast
11:15.06wethrinMmm....beer
11:15.15wethrinI have no issues with DRM on my iPod
11:15.19morsingYou mad professor!
11:15.25wetelectricmohahaha
11:15.27wethrin:)
11:15.36goibhniuwetelectric: wethrin's one of them
11:15.52cpufreakwetelectric: you could always put linux on your ipod
11:15.54cpufreakinnit
11:16.04goibhniuhe calls a vacuum cleaner a "hoover" too!!!
11:16.22wetelectricmaybe, but i think it would be better to buy one that supports it natively.
11:16.35wethrincpufreak: I could, but I want my iPod to be usable, and not a £200 paperweight
11:16.44wetelectrici've seen the linux4ipod project. It looks nice.
11:16.52cpufreakwethrin: I know :), but wetelectric is clearly some kind of hippy
11:16.59wethrincpufreak: Clearly :)
11:17.11wetelectricI prefer dirty commie trator
11:17.19wetelectric:D
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11:20.03morsingasht_007!
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11:30.49morsingrowanp01!
11:30.57morsingWhat's a good site for e-cards?
11:32.04goibhniuhttp://ecards.msn.co.uk/ecards.aspx
11:32.21morsingNot MSN thanks...
11:36.19antiphaseOne with a packet of billy on the front instead of a badge
11:36.30morsingwetelectric: When you can't be bothered to go to a shop and buy an anniversary card, you send an e-card instead
11:36.57morsingMaybe I should get a proper card...
11:37.19wetelectrichaha
11:38.41morsingHow easy is rrd to use?
11:40.30SlayerXPit's this easy to use  <---->
11:40.33SlayerXP(not to scale)
11:41.55murbrounbdrobiind db
11:42.04murbwetelectric: google rrdtool
11:42.20wethrin~google rrdtool
11:42.46murbibot: please FOAD>
11:43.17morsingHow do I ask for read receipt in Mutt?
11:43.39antiphaseUse Outlook
11:44.05wethrinIt's a magic header, isn't it?
11:44.17wethrinSo just get mutt to add the header
11:44.33morsingWhat's the header?
11:44.46wethrinIf I knew, I'd tell you
11:44.54morsingwethrin: You suck!
11:45.02murbanyway read receipts are not enforced.
11:45.29wethrinmorsing: No, I just don't use read receipts
11:48.41morsingmurb: And?
11:49.44murbmorsing: evolution lets you do soemthing with them, try that.
11:50.09morsingmurb: Evolution sucks
11:50.39murbexactly it is an outlook clone.
11:50.51murbmorsing: please turn off the snow.
11:53.28wethrinmurb: Go skiing!
11:53.59murbi can't my skis are in the other house
11:54.04murbi do have a snowboard here though.
11:54.14murbbut no boots
11:54.22murband i think the bindings are borken.
11:54.25wethrinhm. That's mightily unprepared of you
11:54.33murband no idea if the lift is ohpen.
12:00.17morsingNice
12:00.23morsingmurb: Check it!
12:00.36murbmorsing: come over here then and check it for me.
12:00.43murbthen if it is open you can drive me out there
12:11.11z00daxmurb: lift
12:11.19z00dax? walk up the slope you lazy sod
12:11.40z00daxits supposed to be -exercise and entertainment-
12:13.07murbz00dax: the carpark etc is at the top, so when youa re completely nacked and the lift has closed you must walk.
12:13.31z00daxget SO to drive around the hill and collect you at the other end ?
12:13.46murbmy wife is at work.
12:13.57z00daxlunch break ?
12:15.15murbshe works ~ 50 km from here and it is shift work.
12:15.37z00daxhow about the Mistress ?
12:16.05murbvacant
12:16.26z00daxdamn
12:18.54wetelectrichehe "Why is the internet broken?"
12:19.27goibhniumumperer: is that working out for you?
12:19.29z00daxwetelectric: the nte gods are unhappy, the virgin was not delivered on time
12:19.38z00daxs/nte/net/
12:19.54wetelectricwow, good bot
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12:21.18wethrinNo, "my mail's broken. Why?"
12:21.52wetelectrichaha i get that, but then it turns out it was abut the users *hotmail* account
12:22.24wethrinnah, this is where he's done something to his own mail config
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12:40.41morsingbilarh!
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12:52.00mikejwd
12:52.10mikejwsorry
13:18.50wetelectrichealthy.
13:37.42sabinef72morsing: ?????????
13:38.28sabinef72(not sure my sentence is ok....)
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13:50.49morsingcatalyst!
13:51.03catalystmorsing!
14:05.17morsingEnom sucks!
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14:31.30wetelectrichah!: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/footie_mad_tattooist/
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14:36.33morsingtripitaka!
14:58.02Leedsmorsing: so... Last King of Scotland...
14:58.14LeedsI would never have guessed it was about Idi Amin
15:04.05Leedsrm -rf "The Queen/"
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15:13.00morsingLeeds: You know he gave himself the title "King of Scotland"
15:13.37Leedsno
15:13.48LeedsI know he was an evil murderous bastard
15:14.01dick_turpinAnyone know where I can get the driver for 'smart array 5i' its to go in an HP 585 server using solaris 9
15:18.50bilarhcpufreak: yahoo :)
15:19.37bilarhwetelectric: lol
15:20.17dick_turpinI/we have been asking Mr Google for a couple of hours now :-(
15:47.27wethrindick_turpin: Either Compaq support, or sunsolve.com
15:47.31wethrinsunhelp.org, maybe
15:49.58haliugh, solaris 9 on x86.... thats ... hmm... not funny :)
15:50.22stu_is this it? http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/21538.html
15:51.48dick_turpinstu_: Sorry should have told everyone sooner youre right thats the one we got 10-15 minutes ago but big hugs anyway :-*
15:51.56cpufreakdick_turpin: why do you wanna run x86_64 under solaris9
15:51.59stu_heh, no worries
15:52.07cpufreakare you a sadist or something
15:52.13cpufreakor masocist
15:52.36dick_turpincpufreak: If I tell you everyone will throw rocks at me
15:52.36haliSolaris 10 on a X4600, now we are talking
15:52.53cpufreakSolaris 10 on a DL585 is great
15:53.04cpufreakhali: we're running linux on our x4600s
15:53.38halicpufreak: i wouldn't dare to, linux on a 16-way machine feels like a bad match
15:53.42halicpufreak: how's performance?
15:53.49dick_turpincpufreak: The customer has requested a spec of 9 with the ability of 10 currently loading 3 servers have another two due in a week or so
15:54.07cpufreakits great mostly
15:54.31cpufreakasides from a lot of hassle getting our HDS sans happy talking to it
15:54.49cpufreakkicks the  butt of our E6900s :(
15:55.27bilarhi knew it, sun gives too little bang for your buck
15:56.00cpufreakall change next year
15:56.07Leedsdick_turpin: I've passed the question onto my Sun people
15:56.13Leedsoops
15:56.17bilarhcpufreak: when we go to linux exclusively? :)
15:56.20cpufreakinterestingly Sun have scaled down the plans for Rock by the sounds of things
15:56.45cpufreakin  ordder to try to avoid shooting their fujistu collaboration ni the foot
15:56.45cpufreakbilarh: never!
15:56.52cpufreakbbl meeting
15:57.35dick_turpinLeeds: and everyone else many thanks for the help
15:57.48dick_turpingoibhniu:
15:59.13dick_turpingoibhniu: Ive got a big'ish list of ex demo kit do you want the url to download it?
16:00.25goibhniudick_turpin! hell yeah!
16:01.32dick_turpingoibhniu: Its got some real goodies on it and Mac stuff which I know you like how do I do one of those private chat thingys?
16:36.06gw280LALALALALALALALALA
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16:42.46tripitakaany nfs4 people here?
16:43.02tripitakagetting muddled by UID mapping
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17:52.28wetelectricoh man i need to go home
17:53.18cpufreakso go then
17:53.20cpufreakand get off irc
17:53.30wetelectricah i wish
17:53.42wetelectrici have to wait for a script to finish
17:53.52wetelectricim just watching a p3 chug away on it
17:53.55wetelectric:'(
17:54.50bilarhi need to go home too
17:54.56bilarhanother kung fu lesson :D
17:55.00cpufreakcool
17:55.10bilarhlast night i was half an hour late to my introduction
17:55.27bilarhgood job the sifu didn't chop me in half
17:55.28bilarhi was a bit worried when he growled at me as i walked through the door :)
17:55.29cpufreakwetelectric: do you know someone called Rod Hopkins?
17:55.34cpufreaklol
17:59.03bilarhoh well, screw you folks, i'm going home
17:59.08cpufreakciao
18:02.07wetelectriclata
18:02.13wetelectric'Rod Hopkins'... nope
18:02.39wetelectricsomething
18:08.51wetelectricok weteletric has left the building
18:49.01mikejwwhat's up peeps
18:49.27morsingAnyone awake?
18:49.40mikejwme
18:50.07morsingNo-one?
18:50.14morsingmikejw: Sorry :0
18:50.20morsingmikejw: How are you?
18:50.25mikejwI'm ok thanks
18:50.43mikejwI'm wondering what time the apple store closes tonight  
18:50.53mikejwmy macbook isn't well
18:52.22morsingBuy a p510
18:53.18mikejwhmm
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19:02.47morsingCope!
19:07.04adbhi morsing & Cope
19:07.27Copehullo
19:07.30Copehello morsing :)
19:07.46morsingAndrew!
19:19.48z00daxhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6288119.stm
19:20.01z00daxlots of mac voices - not much pro linux - all you glluggers - get posting!
19:22.37halinot even one single mention of solaris :/
19:23.09haliand one could read "the \"wow\" starts now" as world of warcraft :)
19:23.26morsingIs AIX mentioned?
19:24.08halican aix even be installed on a desktop any more?
19:24.27halisolaris 10 on x86 works like a charm
19:45.17trousers_Evenin' ye scurvy dogs
19:45.40trousers_ibot seen mozrat
19:46.03ibotmozrat <i=mozrat@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 19h 1m 25s ago, saying: 'I did send one out back in December'.
19:46.08trousers_I demand meeting!
19:46.45morsingHas anyone seen Babel?
19:46.58morsinghttp://www.cineworld.co.uk/reservation/ChoixResa.jgi?CINEMA=85&FILM=24194&VERSION=
19:51.08Copehullo z00dax
19:55.41goibhniumorsing: the trailers look crap imo
19:57.22morsinggoibhniu: Hmm...
20:03.35morsinggoibhniu: It does...
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20:05.54morsingProvito!
20:22.41morsinggoibhniu: What did you have for dinner?
20:23.02Copebeer
20:23.11morsing:)
20:28.29morsingHow far is Newark?
20:30.10Copefrom where?
20:31.42Cope150 miles from north london, I'd say
20:31.53Copeit is near lincoln
20:32.08Copebit closer from watford, of course
20:36.17antiphaseNewark has 2 railway stations!
20:36.50Copeoh
20:37.01morsingCope: Thanks
20:43.42goibhniumorsing: pasta (THE fresh TOMATO, rucola and carrot with some Parmesan and balsamic vinegar)
20:49.20trousers_Does anybody know when there will be a next meeting, if at all?
20:49.52CopeSIYH
20:51.10CopeDiscussion on admin list points to mid march, but we're all very busy.  As I said... SIYH.
20:54.56Copeand everyone is dead
20:57.14mikejwI'm not
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21:09.55trousers_Cope: SIYH?
21:16.42goibhniutrousers_: sooner if you help
21:30.37adbhi there. Im in the pub.  
21:31.18antiphaseGeek
21:31.23antiphase;)
21:43.30cpufreakwe had a departmental meeting today all 200 or so of us
21:43.41cpufreaktypically an estate agent calls me half way through it
21:43.50cpufreakwhen the director was giving his big speech on stuff
21:44.19cpufreakand my ring tone was the bennyhill sound track :/
21:45.05antiphaseThat's your pay rise fucked then :D
21:45.13cpufreaklol
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