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| 02:40.10 | rhowe | wtf?! http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110083483658&indexURL=0 |
| 02:47.09 | Leeds | far far too much money on their hands |
| 02:48.30 | rhowe | Far too many NES games on their hands, that's for sure :) |
| 02:48.54 | Leeds | I meant the bidders :-) |
| 02:49.27 | rhowe | heh, them too |
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| 05:43.20 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:52.18 | trousers_ | morsing! |
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| 07:04.03 | Leeds | chr1s! |
| 07:08.06 | morsing | trousers_! |
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| 07:26.44 | morsing | wethrin_! |
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| 07:29.41 | morsing | Has anyone here heard of this thing called the Internet?!? |
| 07:29.49 | morsing | Apparently it's the latest thing |
| 07:30.54 | Leeds | I'm sure gregj_ knows all about it |
| 07:31.32 | morsing | gregj_: Explain please? |
| 07:31.49 | trousers_ | *I* heard it's a series of tubes :) |
| 07:32.16 | morsing | There's something on it called DVDs it says here |
| 07:32.29 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 07:32.32 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 07:32.43 | morsing | sabinef72: How does the Internet work? |
| 07:32.54 | sabinef72 | seems ok today |
| 07:33.37 | sabinef72 | heyyyyyy that is a big attack !!!!! |
| 07:33.40 | morsing | :) |
| 07:33.49 | Leeds | morsing: leave her alone - you don't know where she's been! |
| 07:33.55 | morsing | *yuck* |
| 07:34.34 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 07:34.39 | trousers_ | To the school, Batman! |
| 07:34.51 | z00dax | sabinef72: India rocks! |
| 07:34.53 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 07:35.01 | z00dax | morsing: ! |
| 07:35.04 | Leeds | z00dax: curry! |
| 07:35.13 | z00dax | Leeds: and that :) |
| 07:35.14 | Leeds | morsing: you've lost your trousers_ |
| 07:35.25 | sabinef72 | z00dax: oh oh I want to be in India !!!!!!! |
| 07:35.41 | z00dax | sabinef72: attach yourself to an email and come on over |
| 07:35.53 | sabinef72 | z00dax: ah ah ! |
| 07:36.22 | sabinef72 | z00dax: you should go to the postoffice and say them, I'm not happy because I never received the postcard ! |
| 07:36.44 | z00dax | sabinef72: I will send you another one - on Friday |
| 07:36.52 | z00dax | i think your address is still here with me |
| 07:37.04 | Leeds | z00dax: <smug>*I* managed to send one</smug> |
| 07:37.55 | z00dax | yay! |
| 07:38.10 | sabinef72 | don't listen Leeds |
| 07:39.01 | z00dax | Leeds: in py if i do a open(foo).read() - do i need to worry about closing the file ? or will it autoclose since there is really no handler attached to the open ? |
| 07:39.07 | sabinef72 | well guys, I have to run to funeral now. See ya |
| 07:39.11 | z00dax | that didnt quite sound right, but it might make sense |
| 07:39.18 | z00dax | sabinef72: oh! c u l8r |
| 07:39.45 | Leeds | sabinef72: uh... not enjoy |
| 07:40.33 | Leeds | z00dax: nope, it'll all be collected nice and quickly - it's a standard technique for just grabbing the contents of a file |
| 07:40.34 | z00dax | is what i thought, thanks |
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| 07:53.00 | morsing | Puss1nB00ts! |
| 08:09.44 | Leeds | hmm... that's the first job ad I've seen mention Ubuntu |
| 08:09.47 | Leeds | http://www.crossia.com/ViewJobPost.jhtml?id=13804 |
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| 08:59.19 | Leeds | SlayerXP: what's it all about, when you boil it down to the basics? |
| 08:59.29 | SlayerXP | Leeds: sex & death |
| 08:59.42 | Leeds | together? |
| 09:00.18 | SlayerXP | thaqt's not recommended, no |
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| 09:38.10 | mumperer | Morning gllug |
| 09:41.08 | mumperer | I am trying to recall who it was who, while I was sick, offered to accompany my scanner and I into communication and activity. I think I recall apologising but not, sad to say, who to! |
| 09:43.10 | mumperer | If the offer still stands I'd be pleased to know. :) |
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| 10:25.02 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 10:26.06 | goibhniu | morsing! gnotime is doing my head in ... how should I keep track of the time I'm wasting? |
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| 10:53.52 | bilarh | ffs, i've managed to lose my console on the v40z sp |
| 10:53.56 | bilarh | ah, false alarm, there it is |
| 10:54.02 | bilarh | it jsut took a minute to show any output in the bios :) |
| 10:55.59 | bilarh | goibhniu: i'm using gnome time now.. it's excellent :D |
| 10:57.49 | bilarh | mind, i don't use it for time tracking, just for keeping notes about current tasks |
| 10:57.57 | bilarh | instead of writing it all down on paper |
| 10:58.13 | goibhniu | bilarh: I was just about to hug you and everything :( |
| 10:58.28 | bilarh | dang :( |
| 10:58.33 | goibhniu | I'd really like all that reporting jazz |
| 10:58.56 | goibhniu | I want to punch in and punch out ... and exporting to invoices would be nice |
| 10:59.34 | bilarh | ah, yeah but i think it does stuff like that doesn't it? |
| 10:59.46 | bilarh | don't know how good it is for that though because i don't use those functions |
| 10:59.55 | bilarh | tbh, it's a little bit buggy, but it does what i want |
| 11:00.00 | goibhniu | bilarh: cool ... I'll have a look, I haven't tried |
| 11:00.18 | goibhniu | is it maintained? |
| 11:00.21 | bilarh | the best bit is that i don't have to save my notes, as it's all done automagically for me |
| 11:00.24 | bilarh | dont know :) |
| 11:01.00 | bilarh | latest release in sept 2005, so it seems it's not :) |
| 11:01.16 | goibhniu | ahh ... it's the same thing :D |
| 11:01.26 | bilarh | hrm, i might have to hack together some perl/tk stuff for this |
| 11:01.27 | goibhniu | gnotime :D |
| 11:01.31 | bilarh | yeah that's the one |
| 11:02.42 | goibhniu | mine doesn't let me edit times at the moment, my c is poor to non-existant but maybe I should try poking at it |
| 11:03.22 | goibhniu | or scheme even |
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| 11:43.37 | gregj | http://fun.noshit.pl/DIR-2007.01.31/9107f0778de9.jpg |
| 11:50.13 | goibhniu | bilarh: sorted ... gentoo hasn't updated to the "latest" version ... 2.2.2 works fine ... phew! |
| 11:53.22 | bilarh | ah, great |
| 11:53.44 | bilarh | ffs. sometimes i get really fed up with linux |
| 11:53.45 | catalyst | goibhniu: that sounds entirely unlike gentoo |
| 11:53.56 | bilarh | bloody thing always messes me around with the ordering of NIC's |
| 11:54.07 | bilarh | it's one for PXE and a completely different order once linux has booted |
| 11:54.27 | bilarh | bring back bsd style network interface names :) |
| 11:55.20 | hali | i'd prefer device location names |
| 11:55.31 | hali | like you have for luns/disks in solaris |
| 11:55.39 | hali | c5t2d0s1 etc |
| 11:55.49 | goibhniu | catalyst: do you know how to request a package be added to the tree? |
| 11:56.14 | catalyst | goibhniu: got no idea, I assume there are maintainers for that sort of thing though |
| 11:56.41 | catalyst | I stopped using gentoo a while ago when I got bored of waiting for things to compile :) |
| 11:57.29 | wethrin_ | hello |
| 11:57.29 | hali | bilarh: you can hard code ethernet ordering with kernel parameters if you _really_ want to make sure though |
| 11:58.09 | goibhniu | catalyst: me too .. then I got a new machine :D ... I find it's very easy to maintain .. my other systems are ubuntu which I find quite fiddly (ironically I guess) |
| 11:58.28 | catalyst | heh :) |
| 11:59.08 | bilarh | hali: yeah that would be cool too |
| 11:59.46 | hali | something like, c0p1v1 ... controller 0, port 1, vlan 1 |
| 12:00.28 | bilarh | hrm. |
| 12:00.49 | bilarh | i think something that maps to the actual bus it's connected to |
| 12:01.10 | bilarh | like four port pci nic in slot 2 could be |
| 12:01.22 | bilarh | nic2.0, nic2.1 etc |
| 12:01.36 | bilarh | because that way it's always constant |
| 12:01.57 | antiphase | udev |
| 12:02.31 | bilarh | does that actually have constant names? |
| 12:05.06 | antiphase | You can create rules that make it do things I believe. I haven't ever needed to myself though |
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| 12:10.31 | hali | yes, udev can use the iftab_helper thing to assign consistant names, but that's not available when installing ... |
| 12:11.15 | hali | it uses /etc/iftab with entries like "eth0 mac 00:c0:ff:ee:00:00" |
| 12:12.12 | phearless | hello folks |
| 12:15.35 | antiphase | Non-availability while installing seems a bit nit picky to me. I quite often find myself next to the machine in question when installing the OS |
| 12:15.56 | antiphase | If you use the BIOS to assign resources, you might find it fixes itself anyway |
| 12:17.54 | spungles | of course you could just trunk all the vlans a host needs to all it's eth port |
| 12:18.07 | spungles | thereby not bothering with port/vlan shite |
| 12:55.37 | bilarh | well, the problem is that if you have a number of network cards in the box |
| 12:55.48 | bilarh | when you pxe boot, it will try to boot from the first netwrok device |
| 12:56.03 | bilarh | but when linux comes up, there's no good way to determine what that network device was |
| 12:56.11 | bilarh | as it may be anything from eth0 to eth5 in my case |
| 12:56.18 | bilarh | so it stops kickstart working |
| 12:56.21 | bilarh | seamlessly |
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| 12:59.46 | n3llyb0y | a very good afternoon to you all |
| 13:04.43 | n3llyb0y | I am looking for a way to purposely fragment data on a WinXP box (other than run windows for several months). Anyone have an idea how this could be achieved using Linux tools? |
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| 13:06.21 | Cope | hello all |
| 13:08.59 | SlayerXP | n3llyb0y: create an awful lot of little files, delete half, create one big file. rinse, repeat. |
| 13:10.05 | n3llyb0y | Thanks Slayer. For the Benefit of cope: am looking for a way to purposely fragment data on a WinXP box (other than run windows for several months). Anyone have an idea how this could be achieved using Linux tools? |
| 13:10.09 | Cope | oh and fwiw hello mart |
| 13:10.41 | SlayerXP | n3llyb0y: create an awful lot of little files, delete half, create one big file. rinse, repeat. |
| 13:10.53 | n3llyb0y | Thanks SlayerXP |
| 13:11.10 | n3llyb0y | I was thinking more about direct manipulation of existing data |
| 13:11.20 | n3llyb0y | but I see what you are saying |
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| 13:16.56 | dick_turpin | morsing: |
| 13:34.18 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 13:36.19 | dick_turpin | morsing: How's the nagios going? |
| 13:39.36 | dick_turpin | I have it up and running but I'm totally baffled as to how seeing as I only did a quater of the config, my timeperiod.cfg (and others) are empty yet Nagios is giving times etc |
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| 13:56.46 | bilarh | anyone wanna buy a dell gx280 |
| 13:56.52 | bilarh | with 40gig sata and dvd/cdrw? |
| 13:59.40 | Cope | i have one under my desk |
| 14:00.03 | bilarh | want another one? :) |
| 14:00.12 | Cope | no, i have enough doorstops |
| 14:00.56 | bilarh | it's a good machine, though :) |
| 14:00.59 | dick_turpin | bilarh: What you asking? (I'm not buying by the way) |
| 14:00.59 | bilarh | p4 2.8ghz i think |
| 14:01.02 | bilarh | with 1gb |
| 14:01.07 | bilarh | i don't know really |
| 14:01.14 | bilarh | round 120 quid? |
| 14:01.43 | bilarh | they seem to be going around that on ebay by the looks of it |
| 14:01.49 | bilarh | but i can't be arsed with ebay |
| 14:01.52 | bilarh | too much hassle listing :) |
| 14:02.01 | bilarh | i'd much rather spam gllug :) |
| 14:02.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: S'good price I can get same spec (Trade) for about £140-£150 through my refurb suppliers |
| 14:02.37 | Cope | i may, however, be in the market for a laptop; am currently using a dell latitude d400, and may want something of similar size |
| 14:03.13 | dick_turpin | Cope: D600 any good? |
| 14:03.27 | bilarh | i've got a c400 but i'm not sure if i want to sell |
| 14:03.33 | bilarh | it may be slower than your d400 anyway |
| 14:03.43 | bilarh | oh and the cdrom is broken, so not worth your while anyway :) |
| 14:03.46 | Cope | not used one before... is it big? it needs to be pretty small |
| 14:03.52 | Cope | teh d600 i mean |
| 14:04.05 | Cope | it needs to be usesable in small spaces |
| 14:04.26 | dick_turpin | 14.1 screen I'll check the spec |
| 14:04.26 | bilarh | hrm... i wonder what I just accepted in my kickstart install |
| 14:04.33 | bilarh | the serial console was blank and i pressed enter |
| 14:04.37 | bilarh | and now it's installing loads of crap |
| 14:04.48 | bilarh | it must have been the "install crap (Y/N)" optino |
| 14:05.11 | Cope | i find my d400 is a good size; i'd like one that could do a better screen res that 1024x768 |
| 14:05.11 | Cope | but is of similar size |
| 14:08.07 | dick_turpin | Cope: Ah the D400 should be a 12" display |
| 14:08.41 | Cope | tis |
| 14:08.49 | Cope | 12" display at 1024x768 |
| 14:09.27 | Cope | but the actual machine is handily small: 11.6 (W) x 9.6 (D) x 1 (H) |
| 14:09.54 | Cope | very good for on trains with miniscule amount of space |
| 14:11.13 | dick_turpin | Cope: A rich bloke like you should get himself a FlyBook |
| 14:12.45 | dick_turpin | Cope: http://www.flybook.uk.com/ |
| 14:14.00 | Cope | they look a bit silly really :) |
| 14:14.28 | Cope | but kinda cute I suppose |
| 14:14.53 | dick_turpin | Cope: Not as silly as a bit of chalk and a slate boord :-) |
| 14:15.05 | dick_turpin | board even |
| 14:15.27 | Cope | hehe |
| 14:38.43 | tripitaka | has anyone tried xen on rhel5 yet? |
| 14:38.48 | trousers_ | Afternoon |
| 14:39.20 | boudiccas | tripitaka; is rhel 5 out yet or is it just the betas? |
| 14:39.26 | tripitaka | beta |
| 14:39.53 | tripitaka | the official release is going to be a while |
| 14:39.53 | boudiccas | ah ha. then no one can[strictly] answer your question :o) |
| 14:40.03 | trousers_ | Cope: You use your laptop on the train? Whenever I'm on the train I don't use my laptop due to fear of mugging. |
| 14:40.17 | tripitaka | heh, lord forbid one should use unsupported software! |
| 14:40.32 | boudiccas | tripitaka; i run centos :) |
| 14:41.02 | tripitaka | me too, sometimes, good system |
| 14:41.19 | tripitaka | got tired of fedora updates breaking things |
| 14:41.54 | boudiccas | i think they've shot themsleves in the foot though, by saying that beta 5 would be out by the end of january |
| 14:41.56 | tripitaka | there's no centos 5beta yet |
| 14:42.02 | trousers_ | Big Debian updates always seemed to break things for me, too |
| 14:42.32 | boudiccas | here we are at the end of january and no beta 5 publicly released |
| 14:43.00 | boudiccas | i phrase it like that because karanbir has been running the beta 5 for some time |
| 14:43.21 | tripitaka | it's on the normal RHN download page, at the bottom, just below RHEL2 |
| 14:43.50 | boudiccas | i'm sticking with centos because it just works so well |
| 14:44.22 | trousers_ | boudiccas: CentOS does work nicely, I must admint |
| 14:44.25 | trousers_ | s/nt/t/ |
| 14:44.32 | trousers_ | Argh |
| 14:44.46 | boudiccas | so much for sutomised corrections :) |
| 14:44.52 | boudiccas | *automised |
| 14:44.58 | trousers_ | :) |
| 14:45.28 | boudiccas | it surprises me how long i've been running it with no real problems caused by it |
| 14:45.41 | trousers_ | SlayerXP: Admittedly I only ran it a bit, but I personally stumbled upon almost nothing bad with it |
| 14:45.56 | tripitaka | update stability is good too for RHEL/centos |
| 14:45.58 | boudiccas | whatever i sling at it, it either works or it doesn't and if it doesn't then i just live with it and move on |
| 14:46.19 | trousers_ | A bit general :S |
| 14:46.53 | boudiccas | vene vidi vici |
| 14:47.05 | trousers_ | Is incorrect Latin |
| 14:47.16 | boudiccas | so what should it be? |
| 14:47.47 | SlayerXP | vene vermi vomui |
| 14:47.53 | SlayerXP | I came, I got ratted, I threw up |
| 14:48.00 | boudiccas | lol |
| 14:48.59 | boudiccas | trousers_; if you say its incorrect, then people assume that you know what the correct version is, so, what is it? |
| 14:49.07 | SlayerXP | vene vidi vamoosi |
| 14:49.10 | trousers_ | I'm Googling... Give me a second |
| 14:49.12 | SlayerXP | I came, I saw, I ran away |
| 14:49.34 | trousers_ | Back when I did Latin my teacher told me the correct version, but I can't remember |
| 14:50.08 | antiphase | Probably the correct conjugation of fugere, to flee |
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| 14:50.41 | trousers_ | Argh, can't find it :( |
| 14:50.47 | boudiccas | ven vidi velcro .... i came, i saw, i stuck with it |
| 14:50.56 | boudiccas | *vene |
| 14:50.58 | trousers_ | Very slick |
| 14:51.44 | boudiccas | so in the absence of a more correct version i'm sticking with 'vene vidi vice' |
| 14:52.23 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Oi do you know Max Hetric? he must be a CentOS guy, is he on the CentOS IRC? |
| 14:52.33 | wethrin | veni, isn't it? |
| 14:52.45 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; not that i know of. i've never come across the name |
| 14:53.00 | boudiccas | veni vidi vici |
| 14:53.07 | clive-h | The servers I run are centos |
| 14:53.21 | boudiccas | its a good and stable distro |
| 14:53.41 | clive-h | Tis stable yeah |
| 14:53.41 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: He wrote this wiki http://wiki.centos.org/Nagios_on_CentOS_4.x but I could do with some explantion and don't fancy getting ripped to bits by experts |
| 14:53.56 | clive-h | I run nagios on centos |
| 14:54.18 | boudiccas | i know nothing at all about nagios so i can't comment favourably or otherwise |
| 14:55.32 | dick_turpin | clive-h: Um I have it up and running under VMware I only got as far as creating the timeperiod.cfg file and decided to fire it up anyway. its working! how? where is it getting the info from? |
| 14:55.52 | clive-h | errrk |
| 14:55.57 | clive-h | I dunno then |
| 14:56.21 | clive-h | What does the nagios log file say |
| 14:57.55 | dick_turpin | clive-h: Wow I'm an idiot messing with 'Big Boys' toys I'll have to find it. I was wondering if the rpm created default .cfg files which are in a differnt location but I cant find any |
| 14:58.39 | tripitaka | probably veni vidi vici - the -i usually indicates first person perfect |
| 14:59.44 | tripitaka | disk_turpin: strace nagiosd and -HUP it, you'll see what config files it opens to reread |
| 15:00.10 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: OK I'll give it a go |
| 15:01.16 | clive-h | I think it uses files in /etc/nagios |
| 15:01.30 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: Lol "bash strace command not found" |
| 15:01.48 | clive-h | yum install strace then |
| 15:02.31 | dick_turpin | clive-h: Yep so do I yet my timeperiod.cfg hosts etc are empty yet the display gives me the same info as listed on the wiki |
| 15:02.34 | tripitaka | then `strace -p $(pidof pidof /usr/sbin/nagios)`, or similar |
| 15:02.44 | tripitaka | ack, without the spurious pidof |
| 15:12.22 | dick_turpin | tripitaka: & clive-h Can I come back to you guys later I have to deal with a customer sorry |
| 15:12.33 | clive-h | sure |
| 15:15.47 | boudiccas | \join #nagios |
| 15:15.53 | SlayerXP | no, you can't make me |
| 15:16.13 | bilarh | /join, it is :) |
| 15:16.31 | boudiccas | SlayerXP; ar, go on, it'll be fun + you'll learn a lot :o)))))) |
| 15:16.46 | boudiccas | actually they seem very quiet atm |
| 15:16.53 | wethrin | SlayerXP: What about #gentoo? :) |
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| 15:24.30 | wethrin | ~change 1 GBP to USD |
| 15:27.31 | wethrin | It's more than the dollar is weak |
| 15:27.39 | wethrin | ~change 1 USD to CAD |
| 15:27.52 | bilarh | yeah but the pound is strong against the euro too |
| 15:28.12 | wethrin | ~change 1 GBP to EUR |
| 15:28.28 | wethrin | It's always been hovering around that mark |
| 15:29.38 | bilarh | http://www.x-rates.com/d/EUR/GBP/graph120.html |
| 15:30.12 | bilarh | http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/GBP/graph120.html |
| 15:30.21 | wethrin | Yes. EUR always been around 1.50 :) |
| 15:30.39 | murb | that was just due to the recent interst rate rises in .uk |
| 15:30.51 | murb | it was more like 1.53 at one point |
| 15:30.55 | murb | recently. |
| 15:31.05 | wethrin | When the Euro was first introduced, it was about 1.30-1.40, wasn't it? |
| 15:31.14 | wethrin | But then settled around 1.50, give or take a bit |
| 15:31.43 | wethrin | ~change 1 GBP to ILS |
| 15:32.36 | bilarh | http://www.x-rates.com/d/EUR/GBP/hist2006.html |
| 15:32.53 | bilarh | from that one it seems like the pound is slowly getting stronger against the euro |
| 15:32.57 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I logged on to #nagios but was too scared to say anything just slunk around in the corner |
| 15:33.01 | bilarh | although yeah, not huge variations :) |
| 15:34.05 | wethrin | Not particularly huge. Not compared to the USD in a similar timeframe :) |
| 15:34.18 | bilarh | true |
| 15:34.28 | bilarh | but even against the swiss franc it's up |
| 15:34.49 | wethrin | Yeah. But the biggest thing is the Dollar getting weaker, rather than the pound getting stronger |
| 15:35.09 | bilarh | but it's become stronger against all other currencies too :) |
| 15:35.14 | bilarh | so the pound is getting stronger |
| 15:35.18 | bilarh | for some bizarre reason |
| 15:35.32 | bilarh | well, bizarre to me :) |
| 15:35.38 | wethrin | We have a good thing going here :) |
| 15:35.44 | bilarh | record debt, d(m4) at 14% etc etc :) |
| 15:35.53 | bilarh | run-away inflation |
| 15:36.05 | wethrin | Inflation's not runaway |
| 15:36.07 | bilarh | the real shocker is the m4 growth rate, i think |
| 15:36.29 | bilarh | well, not according to gordon browns cpi basket maybe |
| 15:36.32 | bilarh | but the rpi is |
| 15:36.44 | wethrin | 3% isn't high :) |
| 15:37.07 | bilarh | 3% cpi is at the upper end of the 2% target rate |
| 15:37.18 | *** join/#gllug catalyst (n=catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild) |
| 15:37.19 | wethrin | Targets are very artificial :) |
| 15:37.21 | bilarh | it's only 3% because it doesn't include things that actually increase in price |
| 15:37.24 | wethrin | There were worse times |
| 15:37.29 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; ask your questions, they'll have got a much better knowledge of nagois than you have. everyone is a newbie somewhere |
| 15:37.43 | bilarh | i'm sure there was, but that doesn't mean that 4-5% inflation is good :) |
| 15:37.55 | bilarh | for one, it makes you 5% poorer every year |
| 15:38.09 | bilarh | but then, i think it's significantly higher than 5% anyway |
| 15:38.19 | bilarh | m4 growth used to be the measure of inflation |
| 15:38.29 | bilarh | and all that extra money has to go somewhere |
| 15:38.47 | wethrin | Not really :) You get your salary increased |
| 15:38.48 | boudiccas | what is 'm4 growth'? |
| 15:38.49 | bilarh | but unfortunately the BOE aren't increasing rates fast enough |
| 15:38.55 | bilarh | m4 = broad money |
| 15:39.04 | bilarh | so m4 growth is the increase in the money supply |
| 15:39.07 | wethrin | My studentship went up by 2.5% since last year. |
| 15:39.38 | bilarh | great, so you're losing out then :) |
| 15:39.38 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Okey it was nice knowing everyone I shall now go and get slaughtered on #nagios |
| 15:39.38 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; enjoy :) |
| 15:40.02 | wethrin | bilarh: A little bit, yes, but not 5% :) |
| 15:40.33 | bilarh | well, it all depends on what you think inflation is, i guess :) |
| 15:41.24 | wethrin | I don't let it bother me |
| 15:41.56 | bilarh | http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=19 |
| 15:42.00 | bilarh | oh well, it pisses me off anyway |
| 15:42.34 | wethrin | Evidently :) |
| 15:45.43 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I don't think they like me :-( |
| 15:46.33 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; stick with it kiddo, they'll elarn to like you :) |
| 15:46.37 | boudiccas | *learn |
| 15:47.19 | wethrin | Is it friendlier than #debian? |
| 15:47.24 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Blimey its like waiting for a Doctors appointment |
| 15:47.38 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I had a look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Nagios ... and swiftly ran away ... "Installation is a complex and lengthy procedure, and that's before you even start on the plugins required to actually make it useful!" |
| 15:48.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Mine is working thats whats really stupid. I just don't know how, its voodoo gone wild |
| 15:49.15 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: how frustrating! |
| 15:51.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You have to create some files then put the directives in, I created the files but did'nt put anything in them I then (coz I cant wait) started nagios and logged in via the browser and blow me down its up and running! |
| 15:51.40 | goibhniu | how shit! |
| 15:52.39 | goibhniu | I'd uninstall that straight away ... it's a bad omen |
| 15:53.38 | goibhniu | maybe it did something like ... cp /usr/share/doc/nagios-core-1.4.1/sample-configs/* /etc/nagios/ |
| 15:53.48 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Actually its a pretty cool management app I'd like to add some other clients and printers to monitor but now am unsure wher to put the details if its not falling over at the empty files |
| 15:54.51 | goibhniu | yeah, it does look cool |
| 15:55.32 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Oi you sod I've just re-read the history, what do you mean "learn to like me"? everyone likes me |
| 15:56.09 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I would never say such a thing ... please adjust your lenses |
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| 16:09.52 | morsing | secretlondon! |
| 16:11.40 | wethrin | secretlondon! |
| 16:11.42 | secretlondon | morsing! |
| 16:11.47 | secretlondon | wethrin! |
| 16:12.38 | wethrin | sigh. This stuff don't work |
| 16:15.40 | secretlondon | what stuff's that? |
| 16:15.54 | wethrin | This set of transistors |
| 16:16.07 | wethrin | Looks like oxygen plasma isn't the ideal etchant |
| 16:16.16 | wethrin | http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/images/images-151-200/photo178.jpg |
| 16:21.11 | *** part/#gllug mumperer (n=donald@rose963.demon.co.uk) |
| 16:21.29 | *** join/#gllug secretlondon (i=acbdb30d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-d92910aae7f38d55) |
| 16:21.43 | wethrin | Still using CGI:IRC? |
| 16:22.00 | secretlondon | yeah - i need to work out irssi |
| 16:22.12 | wethrin | It's not that hard :) |
| 16:22.19 | wethrin | /connect <server> |
| 16:22.25 | wethrin | Allows you to connect to (multiple) servers |
| 16:22.28 | wethrin | Then /join #channel |
| 16:22.37 | secretlondon | the version is too old for the newbie guide ;) |
| 16:22.50 | wethrin | 0.8.9? |
| 16:22.56 | wethrin | They shouldn't have changed that much |
| 16:23.09 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@210.245.153.200) |
| 16:23.33 | secretlondon | Leeds! |
| 16:23.53 | Leeds | yes! |
| 16:25.41 | secretlondon | everyone did "secretlondon!" to me, just spreading the love |
| 16:25.56 | Leeds | good! |
| 16:27.01 | wethrin | ~seen Kitty |
| 16:27.33 | ibot | kitty is currently on #gllug, last said: 'you have more letters to guess ?'. |
| 16:27.42 | wethrin | yes, and when, dear ibot? |
| 16:28.39 | catalyst | secretlondon! |
| 16:28.45 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 16:28.47 | catalyst | wethrin! |
| 16:28.49 | catalyst | Leeds! |
| 16:28.50 | catalyst | ibot! |
| 16:28.51 | wethrin | cat'lyst! |
| 16:28.54 | Leeds | catalyst! |
| 16:29.00 | *** join/#gllug niv_one_three (n=niv@82.166.208.127) |
| 16:29.18 | niv_one_three | hi |
| 16:29.32 | Leeds | wethrin: the last record I have of Kitty talking is 19/12/06 |
| 16:29.36 | niv_one_three | I can't c him :-( |
| 16:29.37 | wethrin | grrrrrrr |
| 16:29.48 | Leeds | wethrin: talk to niv_one_three |
| 16:29.49 | wethrin | Kitty's been around more recently on other IRC channels |
| 16:30.01 | niv_one_three | toda |
| 16:31.12 | secretlondon | ibot! |
| 16:31.18 | Leeds | Rocky! |
| 16:31.31 | secretlondon | ibot needs to respond with $user! |
| 16:31.37 | secretlondon | *grunt* |
| 16:31.45 | catalyst | you should see someone about that |
| 16:32.18 | secretlondon | swapping client brb |
| 16:32.37 | Leeds | finally! someone gets that... |
| 16:32.46 | *** join/#gllug secretlo1don (i=secretlo@hades.eco.li) |
| 16:33.12 | secretlo1don | this'll take some getting used to! |
| 16:33.13 | boudiccas | secretlo1don; whats a loldon? |
| 16:33.43 | secretlo1don | it's because I already have my nic on the net cafe's ip address |
| 16:33.50 | boudiccas | ah, i c |
| 16:33.51 | secretlo1don | irssi mutilate dme |
| 16:33.52 | boudiccas | ty |
| 16:35.59 | wethrin | irssi's nice when you do get used to it :) |
| 16:36.02 | wethrin | And it plays nicely with screen |
| 16:36.22 | bilarh | how do you set the percentage reserved for root after the fs is "100%" full for users on ext3? |
| 16:36.52 | wethrin | man tune2fs |
| 16:36.59 | bilarh | cheers |
| 16:37.07 | wethrin | There's an option to change the reserved space |
| 16:37.12 | morsing | MWAAHAHAHHAHHHHHTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 16:37.28 | wethrin | But, really, you ought to be looking at a larger filesystem :) |
| 16:37.29 | bilarh | morsing: huh? :) |
| 16:37.45 | morsing | bilarh: Lost it there for a sec ;-) |
| 16:37.49 | bilarh | wethrin: 811G 116M 769G 1% /var |
| 16:37.57 | bilarh | is that not big enough :( |
| 16:38.36 | wethrin | Oh....thought your FS was full already |
| 16:38.44 | bilarh | nah, it's a new box :) |
| 16:39.52 | wethrin | ahhh :) |
| 16:40.18 | wethrin | Filesystems don't like being too full, though - if it's /var, I'd still leave a bit of reserved space on it |
| 16:41.29 | bilarh | but that's like 42gigs :) |
| 16:41.32 | bilarh | oh well, never mind |
| 16:41.35 | Leeds | could be worse... jffs2 used to easily get into full situations where it got stuck - you couldn't delete anything |
| 16:41.48 | bilarh | hehe, nice |
| 16:42.34 | wethrin | So knock it down to 1% reserved :) |
| 16:42.43 | Leeds | was also hard to predict when it would happen, since it was transparently compressing stuff... so you could fit more in the filesystem if it was the sort of data which compresses well |
| 16:42.45 | bilarh | yeah might do that |
| 16:42.59 | n3llyb0y | speaking of filesystems - has anyone had any bad experiences with XFS? |
| 16:46.07 | secretlo1don | hmm - i can't talk to nickserv (i think) i'm getting no feedback at all.. |
| 16:46.34 | Cope | anyone? ever? |
| 16:46.38 | Leeds | secretlo1don: works for me |
| 16:47.03 | secretlo1don | Leeds: its this client - never used irssi before |
| 16:47.43 | murb | n3llyb0y: don't use it on anything that can lose power. |
| 16:48.15 | wethrin | secretlo1don: Has it appeared in a new window? |
| 16:49.26 | secretlo1don | wethrin: no - nothing happened at all |
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| 16:49.45 | secretlo1don | wethrin: irssi is occupying the entire putty window |
| 16:49.47 | wethrin | Does it say anything in the control window? |
| 16:49.57 | secretlo1don | wethrin: i only have 1 window |
| 16:50.03 | wethrin | Yarr - ESC-n switches 'windows' |
| 16:50.15 | wethrin | So it says 1:#gllug(+nt) on the bottom? |
| 16:50.19 | n3llyb0y | murb: cheers. I've already disabled front panel power access (as my two-year-old has an itchy trigger finger) |
| 16:50.47 | secretlo1don | wethrin: it says [2:#gllug (+nt)] [Act: 1,3] |
| 16:50.53 | wethrin | Right |
| 16:50.59 | wethrin | So you've got activity in windows 1 and 3 |
| 16:51.04 | secretlo1don | esc n doesn't seem to do anything |
| 16:51.06 | wethrin | /win N |
| 16:51.11 | wethrin | switch to window N |
| 16:51.19 | wethrin | N being a number, rather than the letter 'n' |
| 16:51.26 | bilarh | waaah, now i have to reboot the bloody box in order to umount /var |
| 16:51.31 | bilarh | ffs, it's never easy :) |
| 16:51.33 | wethrin | 'p' and 'n' scroll back and forward |
| 16:51.49 | wethrin | Workee better? |
| 16:51.56 | bilarh | wouldn't be so bad if the box didn't take five minutes from power on to booting *sigh* |
| 16:52.04 | secretlondon | wethrin: ta |
| 16:52.19 | antiphase | Esc-a >> Esc-(n) |
| 16:52.36 | murb | wethrin: don't forget you can use letters to jump to high windows as well! |
| 16:52.52 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 16:53.03 | wethrin | antiphase: Only if there's active windows :) |
| 16:53.18 | antiphase | Well yes |
| 16:53.24 | wethrin | But one thing at a time....start gently |
| 16:54.31 | secretlondon | yeah - i'm little miss n00bsauce with this thing |
| 16:55.10 | wethrin | So ESC,1 switches to window 1, ESC,2 to 2, etc. |
| 16:55.21 | wethrin | If you're lucky, Alt-N does the same thing |
| 16:55.36 | wethrin | (it doesn't always work for me, hence I use ESC) |
| 16:57.35 | antiphase | I want to know why ESC-p doesn't switch to window 20 |
| 16:58.21 | wethrin | Because it does a Page-Up :) |
| 17:04.00 | morsing | Can someone tell me how to list open channels in irssi? |
| 17:04.11 | wethrin | /win list |
| 17:04.23 | wethrin | Which lists all your windows |
| 17:04.36 | morsing | Cool. I've asked this about 23 times before... |
| 17:05.01 | wethrin | have you? |
| 17:06.23 | morsing | Yes |
| 17:07.53 | wethrin | oh |
| 17:08.30 | *** join/#gllug Cope_ (n=nelsonst@88.212.149.148) |
| 17:11.21 | goibhniu | arrggghh ... /me emerges half of kde just to get a spreadsheet off a windows share :( |
| 17:11.36 | wethrin | ha |
| 17:11.39 | wethrin | www.openoffice.org |
| 17:12.08 | goibhniu | cheers ... but the windows share bit is the problem |
| 17:12.20 | Leeds | samba... |
| 17:12.27 | Leeds | or just cifs |
| 17:12.39 | goibhniu | is there a way to browse the network with that? |
| 17:12.52 | goibhniu | I've tried the fusesmb thing |
| 17:13.02 | wethrin | Do you know where on the network it is? |
| 17:13.06 | goibhniu | nope |
| 17:13.29 | wethrin | so you don't really need the spreadsheet, then :) |
| 17:13.43 | morsing | wethrin: Your server is down |
| 17:13.47 | morsing | Cope_! |
| 17:14.16 | goibhniu | I was very impressed with ubuntu for this .. browse the network and print to the printer with ease |
| 17:14.53 | wethrin | morsing: No, it's not |
| 17:14.59 | wethrin | If it was, I wouldn't be IRCing from it |
| 17:15.03 | morsing | According to my Nagios it is! |
| 17:15.15 | wethrin | How's your Nagios monitoring it? |
| 17:15.21 | morsing | ping |
| 17:15.33 | wethrin | And you can ping other places? |
| 17:15.38 | morsing | Wait, ssh as well I think |
| 17:15.41 | morsing | Yes |
| 17:16.03 | wethrin | You don't have some weird IPv6 stuff going on, do you? |
| 17:16.19 | wethrin | --- hades.eco.li ping statistics --- |
| 17:16.19 | wethrin | 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 17:18.08 | morsing | wethrin: Sorte |
| 17:18.09 | morsing | d |
| 17:18.17 | wethrin | ahha |
| 17:18.19 | wethrin | What was the trouble? |
| 17:18.54 | morsing | wethrin: IP address is actually hard coded in hosts.cfg. Forgot that |
| 17:19.05 | *** join/#gllug catalyst (n=catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild) |
| 17:19.06 | wethrin | Ahh. So you were pinging hades-at-exonetric? |
| 17:20.09 | morsing | Yes |
| 17:20.16 | wethrin | Heh :) |
| 17:20.20 | morsing | It doesn't use the resolver |
| 17:20.24 | morsing | Which is sane enough |
| 17:20.29 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 17:20.38 | wethrin | Well....sort-of-ish |
| 17:22.42 | bilarh | ffs, min kollega sitter o lyssnar pa nagon javla rock |
| 17:22.49 | bilarh | med horlurar |
| 17:22.52 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 17:23.02 | bilarh | erm, wrong channel :) |
| 17:23.32 | wethrin | heh |
| 17:25.15 | *** join/#gllug Cope (n=nelsonst@88.212.149.148) |
| 17:27.29 | bilarh | boredom threshold hit... |
| 17:27.33 | bilarh | anyone got a noose? |
| 17:28.10 | boudiccas | bilarh; theres nae noose in the hoose |
| 17:28.29 | goibhniu | bilarh: what's nagon javla rock ... ace of base? |
| 17:28.45 | bilarh | erm nah i don't want to translate it to be honest :) |
| 17:28.51 | bilarh | but sort of :) |
| 17:29.10 | goibhniu | it sounds cool, when you don't know what it means |
| 17:29.26 | bilarh | yeah, it's a bit like japanese |
| 17:29.34 | goibhniu | ... if I ever have hamster I hope I remember to call it nagon javla |
| 17:29.34 | bilarh | i always think they're about to have an argument when i hear it |
| 17:29.54 | bilarh | but they're probably saying stuff like "ah, the sun is shining nicely today" |
| 17:30.05 | bilarh | vietnamese is even worse |
| 17:30.14 | Leeds | Cantonese always sounds like an argument to me |
| 17:30.22 | bilarh | yeah vietnamese is the same |
| 17:30.37 | bilarh | mandarin sounds cool though |
| 17:30.53 | bilarh | nobody can ever sound manly in mandarin, it's too high pitched :) |
| 17:32.33 | bilarh | mind, my only exposure to mandarin was the lady who tells you where a train is going in HK |
| 17:32.40 | Leeds | heh |
| 17:33.03 | goibhniu | pffh ... emerging 9 of 14 ... and then the freakin server is gonna be called "fileshare" or something |
| 17:33.33 | bilarh | call it something else |
| 17:33.40 | bilarh | like ldap for laughs |
| 17:34.05 | goibhniu | it ain't mine ... if it were I'd be renaming it nagon javla |
| 17:34.22 | goibhniu | I only work here |
| 17:34.23 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 17:34.59 | bilarh | nagon javla could mean "some fucker", so i say go for it :) |
| 17:35.20 | bilarh | or "some shit" :P |
| 17:35.21 | bilarh | even better |
| 17:35.24 | goibhniu | oh handy! ... in japanese? |
| 17:35.31 | bilarh | nah it's swedish |
| 17:36.02 | bilarh | cpufreak: heeelp |
| 17:36.03 | goibhniu | appropriate too! |
| 17:36.18 | Leeds | oh, that's funny |
| 17:36.22 | goibhniu | for this fucking shit server |
| 17:36.37 | bilarh | hehe |
| 17:37.00 | Leeds | the Open Rights Group - trying to be a sort of UK EFF - sent out a mailing... included half their mailing list on the to: line... |
| 17:37.15 | goibhniu | ahh so your collegue is listening to some shit rock on their headphones? |
| 17:37.36 | bilarh | goibhniu: yeah pretty much :P |
| 17:44.22 | secretlondon | Leeds: :( |
| 17:47.11 | phearless | I should go to a GLLUG meeting one day |
| 17:47.25 | wethrin | Yes, you should |
| 17:47.35 | wethrin | Leeds: It's part of the spirit of Openness! |
| 17:55.40 | cpufreak | bilarh: what do you need help with? |
| 17:55.48 | cpufreak | I've been tied up with vendors all afternoon |
| 17:55.50 | cpufreak | (not literlaly) |
| 17:57.45 | bilarh | i was just being really bored |
| 17:57.55 | bilarh | never mind, i'm going home now anyway :) |
| 17:58.13 | Cope | hrm |
| 17:58.18 | bilarh | the help part was about getting something to do, i mean :) |
| 17:58.22 | cpufreak | oh |
| 17:58.48 | Cope | hi cpufreak |
| 17:59.32 | cpufreak | heya |
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| 18:03.44 | phearless | when is the next GLLUG meeting? |
| 18:03.50 | Cope | SIYH |
| 18:03.54 | Cope | see also RSN |
| 18:04.48 | phearless | real soon now? |
| 18:05.14 | Cope | :) |
| 18:05.22 | Cope | and SIYH? |
| 18:05.35 | bilarh | somewhere in your hallway? |
| 18:05.38 | Cope | hehe |
| 18:05.41 | Cope | sooner if you help |
| 18:06.12 | bilarh | ah, i was hoping to check out phearlesses hallway for a sec :( |
| 18:07.19 | bilarh | oh well, screw you lot, i'm going home |
| 18:11.52 | goibhniu | ahh ... I need to recompile my kernel! ups! |
| 18:12.43 | Cope | why? |
| 18:13.04 | goibhniu | didn't have smb or cifs enabled |
| 18:24.39 | *** join/#gllug niv_one_three (n=niv@82.166.208.127) |
| 18:49.56 | secretlondon | anyone seen mozrat? |
| 18:50.00 | secretlondon | recently |
| 18:50.14 | secretlondon | ibot seen mozrat |
| 18:50.44 | ibot | mozrat <i=mozrat@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 10d 18h 6m 6s ago, saying: 'I did send one out back in December'. |
| 18:50.45 | secretlondon | ibot |
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| 19:03.18 | secretlondon | bye guys |
| 19:03.24 | secretlondon | exit |
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| 19:29.13 | goibhniu | I suck .. 3:30 hours and I still can't browse the network ... shoot me please |
| 19:34.10 | boudiccas | goibhniu; bang, you're dead! |
| 19:35.23 | goibhniu | boudiccas: I must be in the next life already! ... there's something called smbtree! |
| 19:35.25 | goibhniu | yay! |
| 19:35.33 | goibhniu | and it looks like it might even work! |
| 19:35.43 | boudiccas | :o) |
| 19:37.59 | trousers_ | Yay! \o/ |
| 20:11.10 | z00dax | so who uses debian ? |
| 20:11.19 | z00dax | whats the vncviewer package in debian called ? |
| 20:11.37 | goibhniu | is it tightvnc? |
| 20:12.02 | z00dax | well, whatever is in stable |
| 20:13.01 | goibhniu | sorry ... I only use ubuntu on weekends |
| 20:13.37 | z00dax | i never use ubuntu |
| 20:14.11 | boudiccas | z00dax; you back in the Uk yet? :) |
| 20:14.39 | z00dax | boudiccas: not yet |
| 20:14.43 | z00dax | be back this sat |
| 20:15.00 | boudiccas | k, i'll put the kettle on for tea then :o))))) |
| 20:15.21 | z00dax | yY! |
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| 20:28.45 | z00dax | you rebooter you |
| 20:30.06 | goibhniu | I'd like to thank my mother ... and baby jesus ... and all the people in the world ... and most of all z00dax |
| 20:30.17 | boudiccas | lol |
| 20:30.26 | z00dax | aww bless |
| 20:31.42 | goibhniu | sorry for the running commentary ... it either goes here ... or my shrink has to hear it |
| 20:39.01 | Cope | oyo z00dax |
| 20:39.32 | z00dax | heya Cope'ster |
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| 22:09.29 | erwin | Anyone want to buy a 21" CRT monitor? Special gllug price of 30 pounds, but need to pick it up this week. |
| 22:34.04 | tripitaka | erwin, you're still here? |
| 22:34.21 | tripitaka | I'll come by and pick it up tomorrow |
| 22:41.11 | tripitaka | I thought you'd gone back already? |
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| 23:37.15 | xotl | juergen is a most entertaining mailing list poster |
| 23:37.23 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 23:37.26 | wethrin | So, so trollable |
| 23:37.46 | xotl | him and martin really get along well |
| 23:37.51 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 23:38.04 | xotl | do they know each other in real life do you know? |
| 23:38.12 | wethrin | I don't think so |
| 23:38.16 | wethrin | Martin's a regular on this fair channel |
| 23:38.26 | xotl | i've seen juergen here too |
| 23:38.37 | xotl | whats martins nick? |
| 23:40.48 | xotl | its probably better they dont know each other irl, it makes for better flames |
| 23:41.21 | erwin | Anyone know tripitaka's email? |
| 23:43.19 | wethrin | SLayerXP |
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