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| 05:34.24 | z00_del | Morning |
| 05:39.28 | z00_del | Da de da daa da de dee da |
| 05:55.37 | z00_del | Dum de da da de dee da |
| 07:09.00 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 07:11.11 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 08:14.20 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 08:14.21 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 08:32.24 | sabinef72 | morning |
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| 09:22.40 | Leeds | morning |
| 09:23.37 | adminjs | morning |
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| 09:43.09 | trousers_ | ibot wake morsing |
| 09:43.19 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on morsing and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 10:11.53 | serris | morning all |
| 10:12.41 | trousers_ | serris! |
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| 10:25.10 | goibhniu | morsing: did you make it? |
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| 11:18.41 | serris__ | hey trousers_ |
| 11:19.55 | serris | Has anyone heard of an extension cord specific for DSL routers? |
| 11:20.02 | serris | Cause that's new |
| 11:20.16 | serris | to me ^ |
| 11:23.26 | Leeds | hmm... that was a long conversation |
| 11:26.53 | serris | Bulldog tech support is made up of muppets |
| 11:28.49 | spungles | serris: use wifi rather |
| 11:29.00 | spungles | cheap phone extensions suck for dsl |
| 11:36.12 | Leeds | serris: yeah, you're joking, right? |
| 11:36.38 | Leeds | if not, things must have improved significantly since I was with them... |
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| 11:37.21 | Leeds | at that point, they didn't noticably have any tech support at all... |
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| 14:45.43 | goibhniu | trousers_! |
| 14:49.02 | goibhniu | I guess morsing is having his car crushed :( |
| 16:00.10 | murb | which car? |
| 16:03.44 | trousers_ | goibhniu! |
| 16:05.18 | goibhniu | murb: he was a bit nervous about his MOT last night ... we sat around and prayed for a while |
| 16:06.02 | goibhniu | no idea which car |
| 16:06.52 | trousers_ | I'm bored, time to look into Gentoo development again :D |
| 16:07.17 | goibhniu | trousers_: yay! it's bugday today |
| 16:07.44 | goibhniu | trousers_: you can help me with my irc bot plugin if you like? |
| 16:09.19 | goibhniu | trousers_: do you run gentoo? |
| 16:10.05 | trousers_ | It is bugday, you are involved in Gentoo? |
| 16:10.14 | trousers_ | I run Gentoo on 3 machines :) |
| 16:10.24 | goibhniu | trousers_: I'm a luser :( |
| 16:10.33 | goibhniu | cool! |
| 16:11.00 | goibhniu | can you tell me why nautilus crashes when I try to login to windows file shares? |
| 16:11.08 | trousers_ | No :( |
| 16:11.19 | goibhniu | trousers_: PLEASE!!! |
| 16:11.35 | goibhniu | it's so embarrasing |
| 16:12.00 | trousers_ | I don't know |
| 16:13.01 | goibhniu | the only other thing that's bugging me is that democracy player doesn't work ... but it's pretty flakey on most systems anyway |
| 16:13.27 | goibhniu | but this windows share thing is really bad .. worked out of the box in ubuntu |
| 16:13.33 | trousers_ | goibhniu: So, how can I get involved in Gentoo development? |
| 16:13.54 | goibhniu | trousers_: what do you want to develop? portage? |
| 16:14.00 | goibhniu | trousers_: I know just the thing |
| 16:14.07 | trousers_ | Sure, anything :{D |
| 16:14.12 | goibhniu | the new c based package management system |
| 16:14.23 | trousers_ | ? |
| 16:14.25 | goibhniu | instead of the old smelly python one |
| 16:14.56 | goibhniu | you'll like it because it's complicated and scary |
| 16:15.08 | goibhniu | oh it's c++ actually |
| 16:15.46 | goibhniu | I feel it's better to edge into these things myself though ... get to know how portage works ... maybe maintain the ebuild for something etc |
| 16:15.56 | trousers_ | I want to develop something that's already got somewhere |
| 16:16.07 | trousers_ | Like gentoo-sources or something nice :) |
| 16:16.30 | goibhniu | this is going to replace portage in the near future |
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| 16:17.17 | goibhniu | I dunno if the beyond patchset has a maintainer ... or an ebuild |
| 16:17.58 | goibhniu | or does that sound enticing? |
| 16:18.10 | trousers_ | goibhniu: About ebuilds, are there ebuilds for every architecture or a universal one? |
| 16:18.25 | goibhniu | bashish is also broken ... you're not interested in doing some bug fixing? |
| 16:18.47 | trousers_ | I was looking at that earlier, I've never done ANY bug fixing, but I have to start somewhere :) |
| 16:19.02 | trousers_ | *emerge bashih* |
| 16:19.38 | goibhniu | lots of stuff is broken ... that sounds like a plan ... head over the the bugday channel and see what's up for grabs |
| 16:19.45 | goibhniu | that would be a great way to get on board |
| 16:20.32 | goibhniu | #gentoo-bugs |
| 16:20.50 | trousers_ | :) |
| 16:20.54 | goibhniu | first saturday of the month |
| 16:22.32 | trousers_ | It says devs needed! :D:D:D |
| 16:22.45 | goibhniu | damn straight! |
| 16:29.34 | trousers_ | goibhniu: Gwaaaaaah, this is confusing! |
| 16:29.43 | goibhniu | :D |
| 16:29.54 | goibhniu | you could always just lurk for a while and see what happens |
| 16:30.01 | trousers_ | I am :D |
| 16:30.15 | goibhniu | e.g. someone says they're gonna look at a bug ... so you try to reproduce it too |
| 16:30.24 | goibhniu | and if they fix it ... you can see how they did it |
| 16:30.43 | goibhniu | you'll only be able to add patches to the bug reports so someone else can commit it |
| 16:31.17 | goibhniu | I guess devmanual.gentoo.org is worth a look while you're waiting |
| 16:32.13 | goibhniu | I would say the mysql one would be best avoided for now |
| 16:32.25 | goibhniu | but kiwi sounds easy |
| 16:32.38 | goibhniu | could be just a line duplicated |
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| 19:38.49 | z00_delhi | Hello |
| 19:44.57 | Leeds | hi |
| 19:46.13 | z00_delhi | Oh sinner man, where you gonna to run to? |
| 19:48.28 | Leeds | uh... |
| 19:49.17 | z00_delhi | :) |
| 19:51.30 | z00_delhi | I am in a very loud club. Very very loud |
| 19:51.55 | Leeds | then why are you on IRC? |
| 19:53.15 | z00_delhi | Cant talk to anyone really. And my date is missing :) |
| 19:54.08 | Leeds | I appear to have come home from a night out with an appointment to setup a wifi network tomorrow :-) |
| 19:54.25 | z00_delhi | Cool |
| 19:57.21 | Leeds | also, onion bhaji and chips... |
| 20:09.03 | z00_delhi | Ok. I found my friend. Be back later. |
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| 20:22.43 | niv_one_three | I am waiting for Morpheus to ask me to take the blue pill |
| 20:23.00 | Leeds | I should really be sleeping... |
| 20:23.05 | niv_one_three | all this weekend made me actually consider stuff |
| 20:23.08 | niv_one_three | Hi all |
| 20:23.12 | niv_one_three | :-) |
| 20:23.19 | niv_one_three | Leeds |
| 20:23.23 | niv_one_three | dont go |
| 20:23.32 | Leeds | dude... it's past 4am... |
| 20:23.45 | niv_one_three | :-\ |
| 20:23.47 | niv_one_three | but but |
| 20:23.51 | niv_one_three | 5 min? |
| 20:24.00 | Leeds | for what? |
| 20:24.08 | niv_one_three | should have called upon you b4 |
| 20:24.18 | niv_one_three | well just to share .. |
| 20:24.23 | niv_one_three | like whats up and stuff |
| 20:24.27 | niv_one_three | too tired ? |
| 20:25.04 | Leeds | sleepy... had a reasonably good night though |
| 20:25.17 | niv_one_three | very well |
| 20:25.36 | niv_one_three | I am unable to change reality latly |
| 20:26.01 | Leeds | are you... drunk or something? :-) |
| 20:26.10 | niv_one_three | now the feeling you want someone to like you .. yet they feel otherwise |
| 20:26.11 | niv_one_three | ? |
| 20:26.30 | Leeds | oh, that one |
| 20:26.41 | niv_one_three | I mean all sits fine in reality's place |
| 20:27.03 | niv_one_three | yet I do manage to shape my act' |
| 20:27.14 | niv_one_three | then reality doesnt want to lay along |
| 20:27.39 | niv_one_three | so that may indicate I am out of the matrix - right? |
| 20:27.49 | niv_one_three | btw, I do need to get a speller |
| 20:29.32 | niv_one_three | nm |
| 20:30.52 | Leeds | shit happens |
| 20:31.19 | niv_one_three | so I am still in the matrix - now am I |
| 20:31.54 | niv_one_three | I mean untill Morpheus shows up - I dont get a chance to get out - right? |
| 20:32.45 | Leeds | right |
| 20:32.52 | niv_one_three | damn it |
| 20:34.25 | Leeds | I'll talk to you later... got to try to get some sleep now... |
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| 22:43.39 | trousers_ | niv_one_three: The Matrix has such a flawed storyline :( |
| 22:43.53 | Cope | it does? |
| 22:44.00 | trousers_ | Yes. |
| 22:44.43 | trousers_ | All the heat the humans generate is from their food - and it's actually more worthwhile to burn the food directly than have humans do it |
| 22:44.50 | trousers_ | So they're crap robots |
| 22:45.47 | trousers_ | When you burn it, a lot more energy is converted that can be collected than if humans digest it |
| 22:54.48 | goibhniu | I'm not saying it's a great film or anything but you could argue that it isn't just the electrical or thermal energy that they're harvesting but using the brains as processors |
| 22:55.19 | goibhniu | I know they say in the film that the humans are being used like batteries ... not sure how it's phrased though |
| 22:55.38 | goibhniu | wouldn't make any sense if it was just for energy |
| 22:58.26 | goibhniu | the martial arts in the matrix is pretty lame too |
| 22:59.21 | antiphase | It would be easier to collect shit and burn it, then we can have humans too |
| 22:59.55 | goibhniu | humans burn better than shit though |
| 23:00.06 | goibhniu | especially if you dry them first |
| 23:00.26 | goibhniu | I guess it depends on the shit though |
| 23:02.01 | goibhniu | but also if they just wanted the brain power surely they'd just farm the brains ... like they do in proper sci-fi movies |
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| 23:05.24 | antiphase | Fat people burn well if all the instances of spontaneous human combustion are anything to go by |
| 23:06.46 | goibhniu | that would be a better plot line alright ... a conspiracy theory based on fast food culture and the increase in incineration |
| 23:08.00 | goibhniu | I guess the processed food that makes people obese could be some low grade manure they do some magic on with nano-tech |
| 23:09.27 | goibhniu | soylent green was pretty close I guess |
| 23:09.47 | goibhniu | didn't stand the test of time though |
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| 23:24.23 | zOOz | hello |
| 23:24.50 | goibhniu | zOOz: where's morsing? |
| 23:26.21 | zOOz | goibhniu, what is morsing? |
| 23:26.42 | goibhniu | zOOz: you're not z00dax in delhi? |
| 23:27.02 | zOOz | no |
| 23:27.04 | goibhniu | z00dax goes by many names |
| 23:27.08 | zOOz | ;-) |
| 23:27.19 | goibhniu | morsing is the official #gllug greeter |
| 23:27.29 | goibhniu | amongst other things |
| 23:27.37 | goibhniu | what is zOOz? |
| 23:27.55 | zOOz | I used to be here 4 months ago |
| 23:27.59 | antiphase | For a miserable bugger he does a fair job of greeting |
| 23:28.26 | goibhniu | he's the best greeter ever ... I thought he was a bot for ages |
| 23:28.51 | antiphase | Might as well be most of the time. We'd need another one that answered "RTFM" to everything he said though |
| 23:30.08 | goibhniu | a bot that answered rtfm to anyone who mentioned "expert" would be handy |
| 23:30.28 | goibhniu | zOOz: holidays? |
| 23:30.58 | goibhniu | I'm having a lot of fun with supybot at the moment actually |
| 23:31.15 | goibhniu | ibot: you've got it coming! |
| 23:31.42 | zOOz | goibhniu, no |
| 23:31.57 | zOOz | just weekend |
| 23:32.24 | goibhniu | oh .. what happened for 4 months? iZombie? |
| 23:32.38 | zOOz | busy period, work |
| 23:33.13 | goibhniu | I don't know how long I've been here for ... must be about 6 months |
| 23:33.30 | zOOz | what do you do for living? |
| 23:34.00 | goibhniu | I stamp out references to gender in #gllug and web development |
| 23:34.16 | goibhniu | zope/plone/python etc |
| 23:34.20 | goibhniu | u? |
| 23:35.21 | zOOz | Data Engineer |
| 23:35.25 | goibhniu | ibot why are you so quiet? |
| 23:35.29 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, goibhniu |
| 23:35.41 | zOOz | I used to do Systems/Network administration back home |
| 23:36.19 | goibhniu | most people here are from norway, I think ... where's home? |
| 23:36.25 | goibhniu | I'm oirish |
| 23:36.42 | zOOz | Lithuania |
| 23:37.06 | goibhniu | so I'm allowed make any jokes at the expense of christians |
| 23:37.12 | goibhniu | ahh cool! |
| 23:37.24 | goibhniu | I've never been |
| 23:39.08 | goibhniu | data engineer sounds pretty nebulous to me ... does that mean you draw diagrams for admins to implement? |
| 23:39.52 | goibhniu | I guess it could equally be a librarian |
| 23:40.56 | goibhniu | what's the Linux scene like in Lithuania? |
| 23:41.45 | goibhniu | there seems to be a lot of hackers in that part of the world, no? |
| 23:44.08 | goibhniu | ibot: what are you looking at! |
| 23:44.12 | ibot | goibhniu: what are you talking about? |
| 23:46.08 | zOOz | goibhniu, data engineer - copper, fibre installations, etc |
| 23:46.22 | zOOz | all psysical networking |
| 23:46.40 | antiphase | Ah, you meant "data networking infrastructure technician" ;) |
| 23:48.21 | goibhniu | ahh ... cool |
| 23:48.49 | goibhniu | I don't know anything about that shit |
| 23:49.36 | goibhniu | e.g. a couple of months back I ran wireshark in an office and then the whole network went down |
| 23:49.38 | zOOz | i do not know a lot too |
| 23:49.53 | zOOz | ;-) |
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| 23:50.40 | goibhniu | I came here to ask for help and someone ... (probably antiphase) told me there was a "promiscuous" wire in the network cable that was connected to the live wire |
| 23:50.56 | goibhniu | and that some secure installations are set up like that to prevent you sniffing :D |
| 23:51.06 | goibhniu | antiphase: nah ...I know it wasn't you |
| 23:52.17 | goibhniu | anyways their whole network went down, including their notes server and intranet for 4 days ... and most people thought I had something to do with it |
| 23:52.50 | niv_one_three | so may one ask about raid 5 her? |
| 23:52.52 | niv_one_three | here? |
| 23:53.09 | Cope | ask anything; you may not get an answer; or you may not like the answer. |
| 23:53.25 | Cope | but generally, yes, of course! |
| 23:53.34 | murb | or the invoice. |
| 23:53.37 | Cope | hehe |
| 23:53.47 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: hmm ... only if you say some more of that freaky stuff about spoons |
| 23:53.48 | murb | but if you don't pay you'll be banned from computers. |
| 23:54.26 | niv_one_three | sorry guys , that was woman issues |
| 23:54.27 | zOOz | good night |
| 23:54.40 | niv_one_three | yet another rejection |
| 23:54.41 | goibhniu | night zOOz .. don't be a stranger |
| 23:54.42 | niv_one_three | ... |
| 23:54.49 | niv_one_three | loussy night |
| 23:54.54 | zOOz | goibhniu, what do you mean? |
| 23:55.12 | goibhniu | zOOz: don't wait another 4 months to say hello |
| 23:56.18 | zOOz | I have not had internet connection |
| 23:56.51 | niv_one_three | ok , I was into testing the new grub2 and having boot right to a raid5 |
| 23:56.58 | goibhniu | zOOz: ouch ... ok ... see you tomorrow so |
| 23:59.28 | zOOz | see you |