| 00:18.26 | wethrin | gw280: No. Read a maths book |
| 00:19.42 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:19.45 | wethrin | z00dax: Aye |
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| 00:25.28 | z00dax | also, i realised, a bit late, that its 22nd and not the 21st - but he's still ok for the 22nd |
| 00:29.43 | wethrin | Aye. Wednesday could possibly worth |
| 00:31.16 | z00dax | are more people likely to be in town on the thursday though ? |
| 00:37.26 | wethrin | I don't know. I vaguely recall that some events took place on Thursdays rather than Wednesdays |
| 00:43.00 | z00dax | are you not going to be here on the Thursday ? |
| 00:43.07 | wethrin | Nope |
| 00:43.13 | wethrin | I'm leaving Friday morning |
| 00:43.43 | z00dax | what train are you on to bruxles |
| 00:43.51 | wethrin | 1240 |
| 00:43.52 | wethrin | Mmm...1st class |
| 00:44.05 | z00dax | ok |
| 00:44.11 | z00dax | I will be at the other end before that time |
| 00:46.38 | wethrin | Right |
| 00:46.43 | wethrin | I'll be seeing you in the pub, then |
| 00:46.49 | z00dax | yup |
| 00:49.27 | z00dax | at 1 am ? |
| 00:49.40 | rhowe | sure |
| 00:52.49 | wethrin | Mmm...curry |
| 00:54.25 | rhowe | I thought that might wake you up |
| 00:54.48 | rhowe | March London.pm is going to be right next to a very good curry place |
| 00:55.03 | wethrin | Hey :-P |
| 00:55.08 | wethrin | Unfair reputation! |
| 00:55.19 | wethrin | London.pm, or London.pm Heretics? |
| 00:55.34 | rhowe | latter |
| 00:56.21 | wethrin | Mmmm......... |
| 00:56.46 | wethrin | I'm toying between turning up there, or turning up on Friday and having a Gllug Social |
| 00:57.01 | rhowe | do both |
| 00:57.37 | wethrin | My financies won't quite stretch |
| 00:58.08 | clive-h | Hmmm I'll come to the next meet |
| 00:58.23 | wethrin | *finances |
| 00:58.50 | z00dax | get a loan |
| 00:59.14 | wethrin | Pah |
| 00:59.47 | clive-h | I suppose I have no excuse |
| 00:59.53 | z00dax | isnt that the best way to get free money ? |
| 01:00.03 | clive-h | Though GND was hadny |
| 01:00.06 | wethrin | Anyone fancy sponsoring a student for a day? |
| 01:00.32 | clive-h | I'm unemployed |
| 01:00.48 | clive-h | so sorry |
| 01:00.50 | z00dax | by choice or default ? |
| 01:01.05 | clive-h | end of contract |
| 01:01.28 | clive-h | I'm a contractor |
| 01:01.34 | z00dax | I cant work out why 2 cpu's parked next to each other are running at a 8 Deg Temp diff |
| 01:01.44 | rhowe | well I probably can't afford two either |
| 01:01.49 | z00dax | when I grow up, I too want to be a contractor! |
| 01:01.58 | clive-h | heh |
| 01:01.59 | rhowe | And since pm is on my road, I will probably be going to that |
| 01:02.21 | clive-h | I'm taking a few weeks leave |
| 01:02.43 | wethrin | night! |
| 01:02.50 | z00dax | nite |
| 01:03.12 | clive-h | good night |
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| 03:46.42 | gw280 | "Lord Byron, then a pupil, masterminded a plot to blow up the school buildings that was stopped only because he was afraid to blow his father's name off the panels" |
| 03:46.46 | gw280 | bwahahaha |
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| 07:39.12 | trousers_ | Hmm, snow outside... |
| 07:42.04 | Leeds | better than snow inside |
| 07:43.44 | Leeds | I think winter is done here... it was cooler last month - already getting warm now |
| 07:44.44 | morsing | Leeds: You mean like 32? |
| 07:45.01 | Leeds | more like 24 |
| 07:54.09 | morsing | I need winter tyres - just can't afford it :( |
| 08:07.52 | Leeds | I'm falling asleep |
| 08:08.23 | Leeds | morsing: did you see my pics from last night? |
| 08:08.29 | morsing | Because of the snow? |
| 08:08.32 | morsing | No? |
| 08:09.02 | Leeds | falling asleep because of the late night and warm office |
| 08:14.27 | morsing | Leeds: Did you hear back from Andrew Chow? |
| 08:21.36 | Leeds | no |
| 08:25.29 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 08:26.50 | Leeds | sabinef72: hi |
| 08:27.12 | sabinef72 | hi Leeds how are you ? |
| 08:27.19 | morsing | sabinef72: |
| 08:27.19 | morsing | ! |
| 08:27.27 | Leeds | sabinef72: I'm tired and confused |
| 08:27.42 | morsing | Leeds: Too many girlfriend I tell you... |
| 08:28.02 | sabinef72 | Leeds: why confused ? who made you upset ? |
| 08:28.10 | Leeds | sabinef72: morsing is right |
| 08:28.23 | morsing | Leeds is confused about his sexuality |
| 08:28.28 | morsing | *Huuooowwww* |
| 08:28.31 | sabinef72 | Leeds: lol you have a lot of success |
| 08:28.40 | Leeds | no, none whatsoever |
| 08:28.43 | sabinef72 | you don't how why one you will chose ? |
| 08:29.23 | Leeds | no... it's not really too many girlfriends |
| 08:29.27 | sabinef72 | and you morsing are you also confused today ? |
| 08:30.58 | morsing | sabinef72: Yes |
| 08:31.08 | morsing | Working from home because of the snow |
| 08:31.34 | Leeds | sabinef72: why do women have to send such confusing signals? |
| 08:32.08 | sabinef72 | because we, women, love make men upset |
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| 08:32.26 | sabinef72 | morsing: a lot of snow ? |
| 08:34.37 | morsing | Well, for this country, yes |
| 08:40.53 | Leeds | sabinef72: so... your professional advice... |
| 08:41.35 | sabinef72 | Leeds: don't make you upset. Enjoy time with her and listen your heart |
| 08:41.38 | murb | morsing: how lame. |
| 08:42.02 | Leeds | sabinef72: but the signals... they're so confusing! |
| 08:43.24 | sabinef72 | Leeds: try something, If you don't try you will never know |
| 08:43.44 | trousers_ | Yargh! |
| 08:44.27 | Leeds | sabinef72: so when I suggest we go to a funfair together... and she starts thinking of people who could come with us... |
| 08:44.53 | trousers_ | Leeds: Chloroform always works for me :) |
| 08:45.00 | sabinef72 | answers her : I would like to come alone with you |
| 08:45.05 | sabinef72 | and see what she will say |
| 08:45.33 | Leeds | I did say that... after being tactful for about 5 minutes and she completely missing my point... |
| 08:47.31 | Leeds | she replied "okok! got u!" "just think more ppl may have more fun,.. anyway" ";) no problem" "2 of us will be fine, as both of us r talkative" |
| 08:48.07 | trousers_ | Can't... Stand... Constant... Contractions... Of... Common... Words... |
| 08:48.20 | Leeds | trousers_: then don't chat to Chinese girls online |
| 08:48.32 | sabinef72 | Leeds: did you try to kiss her ? |
| 08:48.41 | Leeds | no |
| 08:49.00 | sabinef72 | perhaps you should try one day |
| 08:49.07 | morsing | Leeds: I would say that's a "No" |
| 08:49.17 | Leeds | sabinef72: that's sort of the plan... |
| 08:49.34 | morsing | Leeds: Or jump on her belly |
| 08:49.48 | trousers_ | morsing: Oldest trick in the book ;) |
| 08:49.55 | morsing | trousers_: Works every time |
| 08:50.26 | sabinef72 | morsing: lol |
| 08:50.48 | trousers_ | Anyway, I must now depart -- to school! |
| 08:51.29 | Leeds | morsing: right, so would I... except... she was the one who asked me when we're going to meet up again... she was the one who has had a go at me because I spent a quiet evening by myself and didn't call her... |
| 08:52.39 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 08:52.49 | morsing | I know exactly what you mean |
| 08:52.53 | morsing | Women are hopeless |
| 08:53.15 | sabinef72 | perhaps she only wants to spend good time with a friend |
| 08:54.46 | Leeds | she's the one who keeps telling me I'm cute... were holding and stroking hands last night, was playing with my hair, my cheeks, my tummy... leaning into/on me... |
| 08:56.25 | Leeds | that's where things get confusing |
| 08:57.19 | sabinef72 | so you have to plan things alone you and her |
| 08:59.43 | Leeds | again, that's pretty much the plan |
| 09:03.19 | sabinef72 | so : GO GO GO |
| 09:16.32 | bilarh | morning folks |
| 09:17.45 | Leeds | hey bilarh |
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| 09:18.41 | Leeds | goibhniu! |
| 09:18.43 | Leeds | niv_one_three! |
| 09:18.48 | goibhniu | Leeds!! |
| 09:18.53 | goibhniu | it's snowing!! |
| 09:18.57 | morsing | Leeds: Stop it! |
| 09:19.02 | morsing | goibhniu: No it's not |
| 09:19.16 | goibhniu | no? |
| 09:19.48 | goibhniu | morsing: are you being usurped? |
| 09:21.39 | morsing | No |
| 09:21.45 | morsing | I'm refusing |
| 09:26.23 | rhowe | snow |
| 09:26.34 | Leeds | rhowe! |
| 09:27.48 | rhowe | hey Leeds |
| 09:27.58 | rhowe | You want my professional opinion? |
| 09:28.05 | Leeds | yes |
| 09:28.25 | rhowe | Well, there's not a whole lot to go on |
| 09:28.29 | Leeds | given that your chosen specialised subject is "Women of the Orient" |
| 09:30.23 | goibhniu | did you feed them cereal? |
| 09:30.49 | Leeds | no, scrambled egg and cheese sandwich |
| 09:32.27 | rhowe | Leeds: Catch up with you later. Gotta get to work |
| 09:32.36 | Leeds | rhowe: have a good one |
| 09:32.45 | Leeds | goibhniu: that was not a joke, by the way :-) |
| 09:34.25 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 09:39.36 | Leeds | ibot tell niv_one_three about Leeds |
| 09:40.10 | Leeds | ibot thanks |
| 09:40.10 | ibot | de nada, Leeds |
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| 09:41.39 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
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| 09:52.31 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 10:00.00 | Nermal | morning |
| 10:00.18 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:00.20 | morsing | Beer? |
| 10:01.08 | Leeds | no... going for a coffee with Jasmine :-) |
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| 10:33.14 | cpufreak | surely it should be jasmine tea, not coffee |
| 10:38.13 | niv_one_three | I would say sckoch (how am soppose to write wisky??) |
| 10:38.54 | antiphase | scotch |
| 10:39.01 | antiphase | Or whiskey if you mean the other stuff |
| 10:40.11 | morsing | mumperer! |
| 10:41.12 | niv_one_three | thanks |
| 10:41.40 | niv_one_three | thisirc makes be use my fingers better :-) |
| 10:42.15 | niv_one_three | dont now Leeds drinking habits... hope he gets he dronk :-) |
| 10:44.43 | Nermal | http://nermal.org/misc/tree.jpg |
| 10:44.44 | Nermal | :S |
| 10:45.11 | antiphase | Have a cookie |
| 10:47.09 | niv_one_three | wow Nermal |
| 10:47.24 | niv_one_three | did you actually saw it coming down? |
| 10:48.18 | mumperer | Morning peoples |
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| 10:49.32 | Nermal | niv_one_three: aye - fell about 5-10 metres in front of me |
| 10:49.57 | niv_one_three | linux IS safer... |
| 10:50.44 | Nermal | of all the things to get hit by in london a tree was not something I considered |
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| 11:21.04 | morsing | How do I show which groups I'm a member of in Solaris? |
| 11:22.17 | bilarh | groups? :) |
| 11:22.33 | bilarh | or groups morsing if you want to be fancy |
| 11:22.47 | morsing | Nice |
| 11:22.49 | hali | or id |
| 11:22.51 | morsing | groups worked |
| 11:22.55 | morsing | Solaris is weird |
| 11:23.01 | morsing | id won't show it |
| 11:23.05 | morsing | New that already |
| 11:23.08 | morsing | Knew! |
| 11:23.39 | hali | ah, id in solaris only prints the primary gid, how annoying |
| 11:23.49 | morsing | Solaris *is* annoying! |
| 11:23.57 | hali | well, no |
| 11:24.01 | hali | it all makes sense now :) |
| 11:24.13 | hali | the default /usr/bin/id doesn't |
| 11:24.15 | hali | but /usr/xpg4/bin/id does |
| 11:24.22 | hali | xpg4 is "new fancy stuff" |
| 11:24.38 | hali | but they break some compatability |
| 11:24.58 | bilarh | morsing: i agree, it is annoying :) |
| 11:25.17 | bilarh | what is even more annoying about SUN, is that my new X4100's have six Intel NIC's and two nvidia nics. |
| 11:25.27 | bilarh | the nvidia bastards don't support mii link monitoring |
| 11:25.32 | bilarh | so i can't get bonding working |
| 11:25.40 | bilarh | not even setting use_carrier=0 for the module works |
| 11:26.08 | bilarh | why the hell do they just change nics all of a sudden? the other 4100's we have are pure intel nic's |
| 11:26.08 | hali | it works in solaris ;) |
| 11:26.13 | bilarh | s/are/have/ |
| 11:26.25 | bilarh | yeah but sun now support linux on their kit too :) |
| 11:26.29 | hali | bilarh: i would guess that x4100 is a "m2" model |
| 11:26.38 | hali | socket f and a few updates instead of the old socket 940 machines |
| 11:26.59 | bilarh | updates == downgrades |
| 11:27.17 | hali | and if you have 8 nic ports it sounds like that machine has got an addon pci card as well |
| 11:27.18 | bilarh | cpufreak: ever had trouble bonding? |
| 11:27.24 | bilarh | cpufreak: nic's i mean |
| 11:27.32 | hali | the default spec is 4 nic ports |
| 11:27.48 | bilarh | yeah, four intel ones |
| 11:28.00 | bilarh | why the hell would you want 8 nic's for a web serer anyway |
| 11:28.03 | bilarh | i despair |
| 11:28.22 | morsing | Linux sucks |
| 11:28.23 | bilarh | but still, where did the bloody nvidia's come from? |
| 11:29.15 | bilarh | because i only have two of them |
| 11:29.29 | hali | we need at least 5 ports in our webservers |
| 11:29.33 | hali | usually more |
| 11:29.46 | hali | 2 front end, 2 back end, 1 for the backup lan |
| 11:29.53 | bilarh | bonding is gay anyway, it should just fail over with a cisco :) |
| 11:30.38 | bilarh | s/cisco/loadbalancer/ |
| 11:30.47 | bilarh | ey, i'm getting the hang of it |
| 11:32.41 | hali | well, some people like to run their datacenter in a garage... some people do it right |
| 11:34.21 | bilarh | i'm all for doing it right |
| 11:34.34 | bilarh | i just don't think nic bonding adds that much resilience anyway |
| 11:34.38 | bilarh | although it does add some |
| 11:35.00 | bilarh | i think you are more likely to have a failed raid-10 than a broken nic |
| 11:35.00 | hali | it add swtich resilience right, which is pretty important imo |
| 11:35.15 | hali | i'd say it's more about switches than nics |
| 11:35.53 | hali | i take it there are two switches :) |
| 11:35.59 | bilarh | ah, you're right :) |
| 11:36.11 | bilarh | still, it doesn't bloody work anyway :) |
| 11:37.19 | bilarh | so, at present it is worse than two cups and a string |
| 11:38.26 | bilarh | it's really quiet in here today |
| 11:38.33 | bilarh | everyone must be stuck on a train |
| 11:38.37 | bilarh | or still tucked into bed |
| 11:39.40 | morsing | Mmm... Bed |
| 11:44.58 | flips_and_rails | is it still snowing?> |
| 11:46.39 | flips_and_rails | i work in a dungeon and can't see! |
| 11:46.39 | morsing | Yes |
| 11:46.41 | morsing | Lots |
| 12:15.44 | bilarh | not here |
| 12:15.49 | bilarh | at least not anymore |
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| 12:16.05 | cpufreak | bilarh: can't you just set miimon=0 |
| 12:16.26 | Cope | working in a dungeon? how exciting! do you get to torture people? |
| 12:18.34 | bilarh | cpufreak: umm... doesn't that just disable mii monitoring? |
| 12:19.10 | bilarh | and if yes, wouldn't that mean that we're screwed anyway if the current primary switch goes down (or the interface dies)? |
| 12:19.19 | bilarh | as the kernel wouldn't know if the link is down as it's not monitoring it? |
| 12:19.44 | bilarh | It is critical that either the miimon or arp_interval and arp_ip_target parameters be specified, otherwise serious network degradation will occur during link failures. Very few devices do not support at least miimon, so there is really no reason not to use it. |
| 12:20.05 | bilarh | from http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bonding |
| 12:20.27 | hali | an ethernet bondage dungeon |
| 12:21.37 | hali | shouldn't lacp take care of that? |
| 12:25.07 | cpufreak | they're not using lacp |
| 12:25.11 | cpufreak | its active/passive bonding |
| 12:26.01 | cpufreak | lots of devices don't support mii |
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| 12:27.54 | cpufreak | I've got a bunch of intel cards here |
| 12:27.57 | cpufreak | if you want to swap |
| 12:28.23 | cpufreak | got 3 or 4 spare dual port pcie cards |
| 12:29.04 | antiphase | Who needs mii these days anyway :) |
| 12:29.16 | Leeds | antiphase: wii owners |
| 12:30.24 | antiphase | Only if they have mirrors |
| 12:38.29 | Leeds | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007916350208.gif - hah |
| 12:52.53 | Leeds | hmm... jokes-by-SMS service for those stuck somewhere boring and offline... |
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| 12:53.31 | niv_one_three | hi |
| 12:54.10 | Leeds | shalom |
| 12:58.12 | niv_one_three | goibhniu:hi |
| 12:59.17 | niv_one_three | seems like good wind condition http://www.windalert.co.il/image_player.aspx?cam=1 |
| 12:59.17 | niv_one_three | may get some sailing time |
| 12:59.17 | niv_one_three | this allways clenses the soul |
| 12:59.39 | rhowe | I just had to accept a license agreement in order to view a license agreement |
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| 13:00.38 | dick_turpin | Frosty the snowman...... |
| 13:02.37 | antiphase | had a very frosty snow dildo |
| 13:03.03 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:03.08 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 13:03.11 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 13:03.24 | dick_turpin | morsing: Cold enough for ya? |
| 13:03.28 | goibhniu | morsing! niv_one_three! |
| 13:03.28 | morsing | No |
| 13:03.34 | goibhniu | dick_turpin! |
| 13:04.02 | dick_turpin | One of my minions has not come in the fact that she is 65 cuts no ice with me |
| 13:06.44 | murb | dick_turpin: can't you pension her off? |
| 13:07.47 | dick_turpin | murb: Actually when shes not wittering she is better than some much younger ones I've had |
| 13:08.04 | Leeds | murb: poison is a bit harsh, surely? |
| 13:08.06 | flips_and_rails | its a dungeon cos we have no windows and we work underground in a mass of electronics, cables and computers. Not your traditional dungeon |
| 13:11.17 | dick_turpin | I had one girl work here who said "I cant make any calls as I put some false nails on and they are killing me so I cant pick the phone up" |
| 13:12.49 | goibhniu | dick_turpin you may rise |
| 13:13.22 | murb | Leeds: one mans gift is anothers poison. |
| 13:14.10 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Seriuosly many thanks for doing all the leg work on that card you know have 'two get-out-of-voodoo-free cards' |
| 13:15.08 | dick_turpin | now even |
| 13:15.24 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I had no idea what I was talking about ... I'm surprised you're still alive ... well done ... and thanks for the voodoo |
| 13:18.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I gussed as much when you said I probably wouldnt need to turn the power off when I replaced it ;-) |
| 13:19.28 | rhowe | mmm, curry at work |
| 13:19.37 | dick_turpin | Leeds: Got any more pictures of Renata (I think thats how you spelt it) O:-) |
| 13:20.43 | Leeds | dick_turpin: there are loads on the site - she hangs out with Kris, and Kris takes loads of pics |
| 13:21.09 | dick_turpin | Leeds: I'll get me coat :-! |
| 13:22.16 | Leeds | dick_turpin: http://photos.geoexpat.com/showphoto.php/photo/376 for example - Renata, Kris and Angela |
| 13:22.38 | Leeds | ibot dick_turpin is a dirty old man |
| 13:22.48 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
| 13:23.12 | dick_turpin | Leeds: Less of the old |
| 13:23.34 | Leeds | http://photos.geoexpat.com/showphoto.php/photo/383 - Angela, Kris, Renata, and some random bloke |
| 13:24.03 | SlayerXP | and better pictures of the lasses? |
| 13:24.10 | SlayerXP | the one on the right looks like she might be hot |
| 13:24.49 | Leeds | okay... enough of this |
| 13:24.49 | dick_turpin | SlayerXP: Oi thats Renata |
| 13:25.49 | Leeds | for the record, I'm reasonably sure she has a husband, and also apparantly a boyfriend... and she moved here from London about 5 weeks ago :-) |
| 13:26.33 | dick_turpin | Leeds: Thats OK husband and boyfriend will like me everyone does :-) |
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| 13:28.46 | dick_turpin | ibot: Throw a snowball at goibhniu |
| 13:29.13 | Leeds | ibot moonslap dick_turpin |
| 13:29.45 | ibot | ACTION nabs the moon and broadsides dick_turpin with the sea of tranquility |
| 13:29.47 | dick_turpin | ibot: Leeds is a killjoy |
| 13:29.55 | ibot | ...but leeds is already something else... |
| 13:30.19 | dick_turpin | ibot: what is Leeds |
| 13:30.23 | ibot | dick_turpin: what are you talking about? |
| 13:31.02 | Leeds | if you must... just say "ibot leeds" |
| 13:31.12 | dick_turpin | ibot Leeds |
| 13:31.24 | ibot | somebody said leeds was a bloke called Richard making bras in Hong Kong, or a bloke called Richard, or a rubbish footie team, or better than Google, or a Solaris freeware and Perl expert, or a regexp expert, or been fired from the bra company, or not my problem, or a very sociable guy, or a sexy alian, or the manual, or a whining butthead |
| 13:31.24 | morsing | ibot Leeds |
| 13:31.35 | ibot | somebody said leeds was a bloke called Richard making bras in Hong Kong, or a bloke called Richard, or a rubbish footie team, or better than Google, or a Solaris freeware and Perl expert, or a regexp expert, or been fired from the bra company, or not my problem, or a very sociable guy, or a sexy alian, or the manual, or a whining butthead |
| 13:31.47 | morsing | ibot morsing |
| 13:31.58 | ibot | from memory, morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. capable of having bee-wax applied to the plucking end, or mozrat, or verb: to paste random crap devoid of context, or not a CNAME for mozrat, or a Python expert, or a philistine |
| 13:32.23 | dick_turpin | ibot: dick_turpin |
| 13:32.33 | ibot | i heard dick_turpin is a dirty old man |
| 13:32.33 | morsing | ibot disk |
| 13:32.36 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, disk is that which stores Debian, its packages, your resume, and other junk. ;) |
| 13:32.36 | morsing | ibot dick |
| 13:32.37 | ibot | i heard dick is male genatalia, or Dessimat0r |
| 13:32.49 | morsing | ibot mozrat |
| 13:32.50 | ibot | mozrat is probably a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker, or morsing, or completelylylyl pissed |
| 13:33.23 | morsing | ibot wethrin |
| 13:33.35 | ibot | wethrin is probably bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha |
| 13:33.35 | dick_turpin | Is that it? is that my #gllug epitaph? |
| 13:33.55 | morsing | I've always wondered about that "or ha" |
| 13:34.03 | morsing | Leeds: Do you know what that is? |
| 13:42.31 | Cope | ibot cope |
| 13:42.38 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
| 13:42.51 | Cope | ibot Cope |
| 13:42.53 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
| 13:43.01 | Cope | I recall doing that. |
| 13:43.33 | Leeds | ibot george |
| 13:43.34 | ibot | [george] gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel |
| 13:43.45 | Leeds | ibot gw280 |
| 13:43.46 | ibot | from memory, gw280 is george |
| 13:50.40 | morsing | :) |
| 13:51.12 | morsing | Cope: How's work? |
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| 13:55.19 | tripitaka | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.23 | tripitaka | oops |
| 13:56.04 | dick_turpin | lol |
| 13:56.17 | morsing | tripitaka! |
| 13:56.24 | morsing | ibot tripitaka |
| 13:58.11 | Leeds | ibot ibot |
| 13:58.13 | ibot | i heard ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 13:58.47 | morsing | Refuse will be collected tomorrow |
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| 13:59.18 | morsing | gregj! |
| 14:00.37 | Leeds | gym |
| 14:02.21 | morsing | What'sa gyme? |
| 14:14.06 | wethrin | Rar? |
| 14:16.01 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 14:16.05 | wethrin | Hi |
| 14:18.47 | Nermal | lo wethrin |
| 14:19.40 | niv_one_three | wethrin: beep |
| 14:20.19 | wethrin | biab! |
| 14:25.27 | morsing | wethrin: Naughty |
| 14:27.17 | z00dax | more snow! |
| 14:34.28 | Cope | woo |
| 14:35.22 | spungles | anybody know any good perl devs? |
| 14:35.34 | murb | spungles: are yoyu looking to recruit people? |
| 14:35.42 | spungles | several |
| 14:36.01 | Cope | london.pm mailing list - look at the guidelines for advert-posting |
| 14:36.03 | murb | spungles: i know someone who is looking as of today. |
| 14:36.10 | spungles | ace |
| 14:36.19 | spungles | get him to send his cv |
| 14:36.29 | spungles | gbarnett@lastminute.com |
| 14:38.53 | wethrin | heh |
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| 14:41.38 | morsing | gregj! |
| 14:41.44 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 14:41.49 | wethrin | yes? |
| 14:41.59 | morsing | What did you have for lunch? |
| 14:43.34 | wethrin | Pie |
| 14:44.01 | spungles | mmm |
| 14:44.01 | spungles | pie |
| 14:51.31 | cpufreak | I had pig |
| 14:51.34 | cpufreak | from the farmers market |
| 14:51.36 | cpufreak | with crackling |
| 14:52.44 | spungles | cunt |
| 14:52.51 | spungles | that outdoes pie |
| 14:52.53 | spungles | alot |
| 14:52.57 | spungles | I had a shitty wrap |
| 14:53.53 | morsing | I had a fry |
| 14:54.10 | Nermal | I had pret soup and a sandwihc |
| 14:54.15 | Nermal | s/hc/ch |
| 14:54.28 | cpufreak | spungles: :D |
| 14:54.31 | cpufreak | it was great |
| 14:54.35 | cpufreak | with al ittle bit of apple sauce too |
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| 14:56.52 | eyore | "What port does DNS run on and what protocol does it use?" |
| 14:56.59 | eyore | Surely the protocol *is* DNS |
| 14:57.04 | cpufreak | no |
| 14:57.18 | cpufreak | if they're referring to the transport protocol |
| 14:57.25 | cpufreak | that its either tcp over ip or udp over ip |
| 14:57.39 | spungles | that's a loaded question |
| 14:57.41 | eyore | Oh okay so not the protocol for resolving DNS |
| 14:57.49 | eyore | becuase that is just referred to as DNS |
| 14:57.51 | cpufreak | typically udp except for large queries, or axfrs |
| 14:57.53 | eyore | same as the server |
| 14:58.09 | spungles | dns is a protocol |
| 14:58.12 | spungles | shrug |
| 14:58.37 | spungles | that's the same kind of gay question as 'what happens when you type www.bbc.co.uk into your browser' |
| 14:58.42 | eyore | udp is the lower level protocol that DNS runs on |
| 14:58.59 | spungles | yes yes |
| 14:59.04 | spungles | and there can be several layer 2 protocol |
| 14:59.17 | spungles | and several layer 1 protocols |
| 14:59.24 | spungles | the question isn't specific |
| 14:59.37 | eyore | aye |
| 14:59.44 | cpufreak | eyore: if the question was from a firewall / port filtering perspective, then my answer is the one you want with respect to protocol. |
| 15:00.10 | eyore | it was just from the gllug mailing list |
| 15:01.25 | eyore | If someone said what protocol was HTML delivered over I'd say HTTP, for DNS requests I'd say DNS. Obviously they both may use TCP or UDP under that and ethernet under that, etc, |
| 15:01.40 | cpufreak | HTTP is tcp only. |
| 15:01.41 | eyore | i'm just in a moaning mood |
| 15:01.47 | eyore | of course |
| 15:01.59 | murb | cpufreak: wrong! |
| 15:02.07 | eyore | oh actually yes |
| 15:02.15 | eyore | aren't ACKs sometimes sent via UDP |
| 15:02.28 | cpufreak | no |
| 15:02.33 | cpufreak | in practice http is http only. |
| 15:02.35 | eyore | i remember something dodgy about IIS |
| 15:02.38 | cpufreak | s/http/tcp/ |
| 15:02.41 | cpufreak | no |
| 15:02.52 | cpufreak | in practice http is delivered over tcp only |
| 15:03.03 | murb | HTTP works fine over SCTP |
| 15:03.09 | eyore | I have to confess I've never done anything HTTP related of UDP |
| 15:03.14 | eyore | here we go |
| 15:03.23 | eyore | and over pidgeon protocol no doubt |
| 15:03.28 | murb | cpufreak: and unix sockets. |
| 15:03.52 | murb | it just requires a reliable transport. |
| 15:04.09 | murb | so not UDP. |
| 15:04.30 | eyore | it would be funny if parts of the text of a web page rendered out of order as UDP requests were resent |
| 15:04.51 | murb | eyore: or tcp segments arrived. |
| 15:05.01 | eyore | aye |
| 15:05.14 | murb | eyore: that would require an aditinoal protocol on top of udp for resends to work. |
| 15:05.21 | eyore | yes |
| 15:05.27 | murb | we already have this nice one called TCP which works *directly* over IP |
| 15:05.52 | antiphase | IP and UDP aren't really distinguishable |
| 15:05.55 | eyore | Does TCP usually allow access to partially reformed data where bits are still being resent? |
| 15:06.23 | murb | eyore: that is an implemntational detail. |
| 15:06.56 | eyore | having said that of course, in practice it would be pointless, since earlier rendering of a webpage with corrupt characters in it wouldn't be much fun |
| 15:07.07 | eyore | particularly if they were tags |
| 15:07.39 | tripitaka | IIRC, it uses udp unless the payload is too big to fit in one packet, then it switches to tcp |
| 15:07.50 | murb | tripitaka: what does? |
| 15:07.51 | tripitaka | zone transfers, requests containing security hashes etc |
| 15:07.54 | murb | tripitaka: you mean DNS? |
| 15:07.57 | tripitaka | DNS |
| 15:08.20 | murb | tripitaka: not quite true |
| 15:08.30 | tripitaka | simple request to a non dnssec server >1500bytes, therefore udp, no? |
| 15:08.34 | murb | the point you switch to tcp is supposed to be ~500 bytes or so. |
| 15:08.44 | eyore | more than i ever wanted to know about DNS |
| 15:08.48 | murb | most poeple run with mtus of arround 1500 |
| 15:08.54 | tripitaka | ah, so not the MTU/MSS |
| 15:08.56 | eyore | but who knows, it could come up in a test question one day! |
| 15:09.16 | murb | tripitaka: no such things as an MSS for UDP. |
| 15:09.31 | tripitaka | easynet asked me 'how does traceroute work', throught that was a good question. |
| 15:09.36 | tripitaka | got it wrong though |
| 15:09.44 | murb | tripitaka: that is one of my standard interview questions. |
| 15:09.52 | antiphase | How does recursive name resolution work seems to be popular |
| 15:09.53 | tripitaka | murb: ah yes, MTU then |
| 15:10.08 | murb | next is how would you implement traceroute using tcp probes. |
| 15:10.20 | tripitaka | 1. download tcptraceroute |
| 15:10.26 | murb | or as an alternative incase the answer to that question has been leart. |
| 15:10.49 | eyore | i use mtr mainly |
| 15:11.44 | murb | tripitaka: did you get the job? |
| 15:11.44 | tripitaka | can mtr do tcp? |
| 15:11.46 | tripitaka | no I didn't |
| 15:11.56 | antiphase | mtr is like using Windows when Busybox would do |
| 15:12.02 | eyore | heh |
| 15:12.09 | eyore | it's fast and easy |
| 15:12.23 | antiphase | It's also not installed everywhere by default |
| 15:12.33 | antiphase | Not that /sbin/traceroute is these days |
| 15:12.36 | antiphase | But anyway |
| 15:12.42 | eyore | that is a down side, i have root on all the servers i use regularly |
| 15:12.43 | murb | tripitaka: what was the job? network engineer |
| 15:12.44 | murb | ? |
| 15:12.58 | tripitaka | that whole family of apps is too susceptible to firewalls |
| 15:13.08 | antiphase | So do I, doesn't mean I can be arsed to install something that provides minimum benefit :) |
| 15:13.12 | tripitaka | I think it was network ops, something like that |
| 15:13.19 | tripitaka | couple of years ago |
| 15:13.33 | eyore | yeah and some OS configuration operations seem to allow dropping ICMP during busy times I think |
| 15:14.12 | eyore | or if not options, they just do it. |
| 15:14.43 | murb | if the cpu is maxed on your router you may well not receive time exceeded packets. |
| 15:15.12 | tripitaka | The network is full of icmp host unreachables, sleeping rough, ignored by passers by, bitten by feral dogs.. |
| 15:15.34 | tripitaka | they are the untermensch of IP |
| 15:15.38 | eyore | i have MIMO router. pretty sure the netgear algorithm is buggy and sometimes the dynamic ariel selection routine sucks all the router CPU |
| 15:16.08 | eyore | so this is a common problem i have |
| 15:16.13 | murb | tripitaka: they don't make very good slave labours though :( |
| 15:16.40 | tripitaka | murb: their payload is weak and unreliable :) |
| 15:16.51 | eyore | if the lights on the top flash too fast i start seeing packet time outs. |
| 15:16.59 | eyore | note to self: don't but netgear again. |
| 15:19.27 | tripitaka | I was thinking about generating icmp packets with encrypted payloads for passing super secret messages. After all, nobody notices 'frag required but none set' etc. |
| 15:19.43 | tripitaka | but, couldn't be arsed. |
| 15:20.42 | eyore | like so many things in life |
| 15:27.06 | murb | eyore: what is wrong with netgear equipment? |
| 15:27.15 | murb | atleast it isn't cisco value(tm) |
| 15:27.29 | eyore | could just be the new MIMO models |
| 15:28.08 | eyore | the wifi arial powering algorithm can swallow all the CPU and then it drops packets even for networked traffic |
| 15:28.25 | eyore | also quite a few of them suddenly die or suffer from sudden drop out |
| 15:28.44 | eyore | sudden drop out even when signal strength is near max |
| 15:28.58 | eyore | although apparently that may just be the number of wifi networks causing that. |
| 15:33.37 | eyore | what company sells "value" cisco kit? |
| 15:33.50 | clive-h | linksys |
| 15:33.59 | bilarh | eyore: ebay :) |
| 15:34.03 | eyore | heh |
| 15:34.05 | bilarh | well, someon eon ebay |
| 15:34.27 | clive-h | linksys is cisco's consumer division now |
| 15:34.41 | bilarh | cool, didn't know that :) |
| 15:36.29 | wethrin | Has been for some time now |
| 15:36.52 | bilarh | i've lost my touch :( |
| 15:37.04 | murb | and their logo looks like tesco |
| 15:44.01 | *** part/#gllug mumperer (n=donald@rose963.demon.co.uk) |
| 15:49.13 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 15:49.29 | clive-h | hi morsing |
| 15:52.16 | morsing | Dear Mr Morsing |
| 15:52.23 | morsing | Thank you for your email. It was reported by the driver yesterday that |
| 15:52.24 | morsing | Thackeray End was blocked access, which we believe was caused by parked |
| 15:52.24 | morsing | cars. |
| 15:52.31 | morsing | We should be returning tomorrow to empty the bins. |
| 15:52.31 | morsing | Apologies for any inconvenience. |
| 15:52.34 | morsing | --- |
| 15:52.47 | wethrin | morsing: ?? |
| 15:52.52 | wethrin | Emailing the council? |
| 15:52.58 | morsing | Odd how they apologise for the inconvenience since it was my car blocking the road :D |
| 15:53.25 | wethrin | hehe |
| 15:57.35 | eyore | lol |
| 15:57.47 | eyore | you should demand a partial council tax refund! |
| 16:00.17 | Leeds | is Twinings tea expensive? |
| 16:02.38 | eyore | well it's more expensive than own brand supermarket but it's not a super premium brand |
| 16:02.58 | eyore | except for speciality packs |
| 16:03.15 | eyore | often sold for gifts and that is a bit more |
| 16:03.53 | Nermal | Leeds: central london - box of 50 teabags - earl grey - £1.89 |
| 16:09.01 | morsing | Moo |
| 16:09.19 | Leeds | thanks |
| 16:09.23 | Nermal | rather nice they are too |
| 16:10.03 | Nermal | I prefer PG tips to twinings everyday tea mind |
| 16:10.23 | Nermal | there's always fortnum and mason :) |
| 16:10.56 | Leeds | wow |
| 16:11.01 | Leeds | ibot change 4.75 gbp to hkd |
| 16:11.35 | Leeds | hmm... you can have a night out for that much here! |
| 16:11.44 | Nermal | there was a nice piece of fish for 145 quid there too |
| 16:11.53 | Nermal | ibot change 145 gbp to hkd |
| 16:12.01 | Nermal | :) |
| 16:14.10 | Leeds | sorry, that was for a fishing boat? |
| 16:22.01 | Nermal | no.. just a piece of salmon abou ta foot long |
| 16:22.24 | Nermal | you can get some very nice tea there for 25 quid |
| 16:23.11 | Nermal | http://www.fortnumandmason.com/shopping/tea/products/default.aspx?category=FortnumsFamousTeas&product=010080&view=product&page=1 |
| 16:23.22 | Nermal | you even get your own little wooden chest |
| 16:24.54 | spungles | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:48.55 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 16:53.34 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 16:53.53 | catalyst | how goes? :) |
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| 16:55.16 | boudiccas | its dick_turpin !!!! |
| 16:55.24 | boudiccas | sossidges |
| 16:56.02 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I much prefered snow: :-P |
| 16:56.33 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; sorry that was someone else's name that i 'borrowed' :) |
| 16:57.19 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Typical woman "Can I just borrow that?" |
| 16:57.54 | boudiccas | i didn't ask, i just did it ..... and got a polite message that it was someone else's nick |
| 16:58.33 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: lol did you get a smacked botty? |
| 16:58.33 | boudiccas | i'd be rather annoyed if anyone 'borrowed' my nick so i only kept it for a short time |
| 16:58.55 | boudiccas | nope, nor a thwack round the ear either :) |
| 16:59.11 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: It can be arranged |
| 16:59.30 | boudiccas | anything can be arranged given the right impetus and conditions |
| 16:59.31 | wethrin | If I have a DLT tape drive that's designed to take DLT IV tapes, will it spool/unspool older DLT tapes? (I'm only after the physical takeup mechanism ATM, not writing data) |
| 16:59.53 | boudiccas | time to get the spuds on the go for tea time |
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| 17:00.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: My turn to cook tonight may let you know what we are having later |
| 17:00.54 | robo_ro | lo |
| 17:01.45 | Leeds | morning robo_ro |
| 17:02.01 | dick_turpin | wethrin: It may do I could get a Dat 5 to rewind in a Dat 4 machine |
| 17:02.13 | robo_ro | heh... that would be friday for you then Leeds? |
| 17:02.38 | dick_turpin | I think it was a Travan or something |
| 17:03.42 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: |
| 17:04.07 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Right. That's good news |
| 17:04.53 | Leeds | robo_ro: right |
| 17:04.55 | wethrin | I've got a *mumble* GB DLT drive that came with a stuck tape. I think it's the tape itself that's broken rather than the drive mechanism, so I'd like a different tape to try it out with |
| 17:05.09 | robo_ro | leeds: lucky bugger |
| 17:07.28 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Remember I'm no expert but a great beleiver in 'Suck it and see' I think I was using KDAT or one of the other standard apps I currently use this http://www.arkeia.com/ with an HP DAT 12/24 drive at home |
| 17:07.45 | wethrin | dick_turpin: I was planning that |
| 17:07.50 | wethrin | I tend to use tar :) |
| 17:08.25 | wethrin | I just wanted to test the physical loading/unloading, really |
| 17:08.30 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I'm realy impressed with Arkeia if a muppet like me can use it anyone can |
| 17:08.56 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Have you got the old tape out? |
| 17:08.59 | wethrin | tar's the way to go :) |
| 17:09.00 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Yes |
| 17:09.07 | wethrin | With a screwdriver and elbow grease |
| 17:09.14 | Leeds | if it was good enough for our grandparents... right? |
| 17:09.21 | wethrin | Exactly |
| 17:09.38 | dick_turpin | wethrin: So power it up and see if it accepts the tape |
| 17:10.13 | wethrin | Will do. Just if someone said "It'll make the drive burn in the fiery pits of hell", then I wouldn't expend the effort to try |
| 17:10.57 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Na if anything it may sit there like a useless hunk of metal |
| 17:11.34 | wethrin | well, yes |
| 17:13.51 | dick_turpin | wethrin: The only downside for me is I have to do manual backups seeing as I switch my box off it has to be left on for incremental under Arkeia |
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| 17:33.10 | antiphase | ipfw sucks wang |
| 17:36.15 | morsing | Quick queston |
| 17:36.20 | morsing | question |
| 17:36.38 | morsing | If I do scp -r dir/ server:/web/ |
| 17:36.58 | morsing | Will it create dir/ under /web/ or start from /web/ as the root? |
| 17:37.51 | morsing | antiphase? |
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| 17:50.05 | tripitaka | morsing: it'll create /web/dir/ |
| 17:50.17 | tripitaka | providing /web is on the root of the server |
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| 17:50.39 | phearless | <phearless> what does "count me out" means? |
| 17:50.39 | phearless | <z00dax> 'excude' |
| 17:50.39 | phearless | <boudiccas> exclude |
| 17:50.42 | phearless | thank you |
| 17:50.49 | phearless | & sorry for the late answer |
| 17:50.54 | phearless | ;) |
| 17:51.13 | phearless | and BTW, hello #gllug |
| 17:51.13 | Cope | evening |
| 17:52.06 | tripitaka | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.16 | tripitaka | creates /tmp/testdir on othermachine |
| 17:52.45 | Cope | well spotted |
| 17:55.58 | phearless | /tmp/testdir and /tmp/testdir/date |
| 17:56.11 | tripitaka | quite |
| 17:57.03 | tripitaka | right, night all |
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| 18:35.11 | morsing | Check it! |
| 18:35.14 | morsing | Jasperw! |
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| 18:37.14 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 18:40.47 | morsing | catalyst? |
| 18:41.01 | catalyst | morsing!! |
| 18:41.11 | morsing | :) |
| 18:41.13 | clive-h | damn this network drive is shite |
| 18:41.17 | catalyst | =) |
| 18:41.35 | clive-h | the network drivers are broken on fc5 and fc6 |
| 18:42.50 | z00dax | thats quite a statement |
| 18:43.01 | z00dax | all network drivers for eveything are broken on fc5 and fc6 ? |
| 18:43.08 | clive-h | nah |
| 18:43.33 | clive-h | this thing is supposed to allocate a 'slot' |
| 18:43.46 | clive-h | you have to supply a serial and key |
| 18:43.48 | z00dax | define: thing |
| 18:44.08 | clive-h | it doesn't allocate a slot on fc6 |
| 18:44.18 | clive-h | and i get error -98 on fc5 |
| 18:44.36 | clive-h | it's a maxi z.ul |
| 18:44.40 | morsing | Crypto card? |
| 18:44.43 | morsing | Or ESCON? |
| 18:44.51 | morsing | What are you talking about? |
| 18:45.02 | clive-h | trekstor 320gb network or usb hard drive |
| 18:45.29 | morsing | Oh... So a toy then |
| 18:45.43 | clive-h | uses ndas whatever that is for network connection |
| 18:45.59 | clive-h | yeah it was an impulse buy |
| 18:46.34 | clive-h | I'll have to see if it works on doze |
| 18:57.13 | morsing | Need to sort them out realyy *sigh* |
| 18:57.18 | morsing | realy |
| 19:17.06 | wethrin | Rar |
| 19:21.34 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 19:22.12 | wethrin | You any good at fixing DLT drives? |
| 19:37.43 | morsing | HammeR? |
| 19:38.22 | murb | a bigger hammer |
| 19:38.39 | wethrin | hammr.com! |
| 19:39.20 | hali | wethrin: have you had a look inside it? most of the time it's just the little "latch" thingie that hooks up to the end of the tape thats off it's thingy |
| 19:39.32 | wethrin | Yes. The cover's off |
| 19:39.53 | hali | it's a little hook |
| 19:39.59 | wethrin | Entirely untensioned |
| 19:40.26 | wethrin | I've been told replacing the pick-up hook might work |
| 19:44.39 | cpufreak | If you have a process that is attached to a shared memory region, and you fork()... |
| 19:44.45 | cpufreak | do you preserve the shared memory mapping? |
| 19:47.17 | cpufreak | n/m - it does |
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| 20:09.47 | gw280 | http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/boings/ |
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| 20:33.24 | morsing | jenson! |
| 20:33.29 | jenson | heya morsing |
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| 20:36.29 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 20:36.29 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 20:36.29 | morsing | I've never heard him swear |
| 20:36.36 | jenson | I'm supposed to writing my blog, gonna write about snow like everyone else |
| 20:36.36 | morsing | Only seen it on the blog |
| 20:36.43 | jenson | morsing: precisly |
| 20:36.47 | morsing | Maybe it's outsourced? The blog? |
| 20:38.09 | jenson | much as i love the windows live spaces looks, it doesnt ever seem to work properly, maybe i should actually get around to doing my own site |
| 20:41.58 | morsing | url? |
| 20:42.43 | jenson | what for my blo? |
| 20:42.46 | jenson | blog even |
| 20:43.46 | morsing | Your website/blog or something |
| 20:43.59 | jenson | http://www.jamesspikemarsters.co.uk |
| 20:46.04 | trousers_ | Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, are we? |
| 20:47.54 | jenson | yeh |
| 20:48.10 | jenson | watched it when i was a teenager and then kinda got back into it in the last year |
| 20:48.25 | morsing | Has anyone ever told you that site's a bit slow? |
| 20:48.35 | jenson | morsing: blame microsoft |
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| 20:48.42 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 20:50.13 | jenson | morsing: hence why i said i should probably do my own, but it will do for now |
| 20:51.23 | morsing | No it won't. It still hasn't managed to load *any* pictures |
| 20:52.15 | jenson | yeh i think its being crappy, wont let me upload any pics right now either, it was not displaying the pics properly at my friends house yesterday either |
| 20:52.44 | jenson | if u click on the album u want to view it will probably load it |
| 20:53.38 | jenson | ffs i name things and it forgets the names, i think its actually got worse as its got nmore propulat |
| 20:57.12 | jenson | there we go, got all my snow pics up |
| 20:58.27 | jenson | right i gotta go use the phone |
| 20:58.30 | jenson | i'll catch u later |
| 20:58.31 | jenson | bye |
| 20:59.27 | morsing | Dial-up? |
| 20:59.38 | morsing | No broadband or mobile phone? |
| 20:59.49 | z00dax | most broadband is dialup |
| 21:00.14 | hali | im on dialup |
| 21:00.23 | hali | at least the speed is dialup grade |
| 21:00.35 | z00dax | i know how that feels |
| 21:00.42 | clive-h | that sucks |
| 21:01.23 | morsing | Mmm... Training bra |
| 21:01.38 | Cope | jenson!? |
| 21:01.59 | hali | indeed, fucking virgin smallband |
| 21:02.15 | hali | peak hour download speed is usually sub 10k |
| 21:02.40 | clive-h | I like my ADSL |
| 21:03.39 | morsing | Cope: She's been coming here for a week or so |
| 21:11.11 | z00dax | morsing: what is the weather forcast for tomorrow ? |
| 21:11.22 | morsing | z00dax: Ice |
| 21:11.39 | z00dax | oh good |
| 21:11.45 | morsing | Mmm... LinkedIn |
| 21:11.52 | morsing | Paul Ruse is on there! |
| 21:20.30 | morsing | murb: I'm not really doing "that thing", people keep inviting me |
| 21:20.32 | morsing | :) |
| 21:20.43 | murb | hehe :-) |
| 21:22.12 | Cope | morsing: why did you say Mmm.. Training bra? |
| 21:22.38 | morsing | murb: A friend invited me a while ago but I never responded. The invitation now seems to have dissapeared. Why? |
| 21:22.50 | morsing | Cope: It's that shampoo add on TV |
| 21:22.52 | murb | morsing: i think they expire after a few months |
| 21:23.11 | morsing | I had loads of people inviting me |
| 21:24.08 | morsing | 40% of my company is in LinkedIn |
| 21:24.23 | murb | are 40% of your company looking for new jobs? |
| 21:24.28 | morsing | No |
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| 21:34.51 | Cope | what is "LinkedIn"? |
| 21:36.46 | morsing | Cope: Professional contractors network |
| 21:37.01 | morsing | Also does social stuff, find class mates etc |
| 21:41.12 | hali | mostly for business i'd say... or at least semi-business |
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| 21:49.04 | Cope | morsing: half of attenda are contractors? |
| 21:51.08 | hali | why not sign up and have a look around? it's free and it's easy to unsubscribe |
| 21:51.37 | hali | im always suprised by all the links between people i know |
| 21:51.41 | hali | someone knows someone |
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| 22:01.04 | mozrat | "testing testing.. is this thing on?" |
| 22:01.25 | Cope | woo |
| 22:01.30 | mozrat | cope! |
| 22:01.46 | mozrat | yay! |
| 22:01.48 | Cope | Hello old chum. |
| 22:02.04 | mozrat | I'm well old thing - how about you? |
| 22:02.18 | Cope | Ok - good, even. |
| 22:02.40 | mozrat | good! |
| 22:02.43 | mozrat | glad to hear that |
| 22:04.21 | mozrat | How is my favourite son of cope nowdays? |
| 22:24.44 | Cope | mozrat: he's super! |
| 22:25.36 | Cope | 3 now |
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