| 00:00.08 | zOOz | sorry about my english ;-) |
| 00:01.01 | zOOz | but unfortunately... |
| 00:01.18 | wethrin | z00dax! |
| 00:01.32 | zOOz | airsnort doesn't do a lot actually |
| 00:03.48 | z00dax | wethrin: ! |
| 00:04.01 | z00dax | my fork of airsnort does lots |
| 00:05.12 | wethrin | Enjoy Fosdem? |
| 00:05.23 | z00dax | muchly so, was nice |
| 00:05.46 | z00dax | and the kebab on sat afternoon was quite nice too |
| 00:06.01 | z00dax | did you meet rhowe ? i bumped into him walking back to the venue |
| 00:06.46 | wethrin | He missed his Eurostar |
| 00:07.27 | z00dax | nice one |
| 00:07.33 | wethrin | yeah |
| 00:07.37 | z00dax | I had gw280 on the same train as me |
| 00:07.39 | wethrin | Got on the next one |
| 00:07.42 | wethrin | Oh dear, I'm sorry |
| 00:07.53 | z00dax | thankfully, he was in coach 3 and me in 17 |
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| 00:21.17 | wethrin | emacs IRC!! |
| 00:21.44 | z00dax | :/ |
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| 00:48.49 | keithlard_ | yay |
| 00:48.54 | keithlard_ | can someone msg me again |
| 00:51.34 | keithlard_ | i had a bit of a mare setting up erc to auto-id to nickserv |
| 00:57.28 | wethrin | w00t! |
| 00:57.39 | keithlard_ | seems to be workin' ok now :D |
| 00:58.04 | keithlard_ | it's got to be one of the few irc clients that require you to be a lisp expert to configure it |
| 00:58.35 | wethrin | Using a strange emacs one? |
| 00:58.38 | keithlard_ | although that can't be quite true, since i managed it ;D |
| 00:58.41 | keithlard_ | yeah, ERC |
| 00:59.12 | keithlard_ | it's a bit like irssi only it's inside emacs |
| 01:00.47 | wethrin | Mad person! |
| 01:01.22 | keithlard_ | i don't know, i was reasonably sane before i started using emacs. now i've gone all wibble. |
| 01:01.42 | wethrin | Best get to Cornwall for some therapy! |
| 01:02.23 | keithlard_ | were you at the puppet talk btw? |
| 01:02.43 | wethrin | No - I was still stuck back up north |
| 01:02.47 | wethrin | Heard it went well, though |
| 01:02.53 | keithlard_ | yeah really fun |
| 01:03.02 | wethrin | You went for curry afterwards? |
| 01:03.18 | keithlard_ | i lured six people from wordtracker to come along - and there's only about 12 of us anyway! |
| 01:03.24 | wethrin | yay! |
| 01:03.26 | keithlard_ | yeah massive curry session in brick lane |
| 01:03.49 | keithlard_ | trousers came, and rlivsey from #lrug |
| 01:04.16 | keithlard_ | so when are we having another #gllug pubness? |
| 01:04.17 | wethrin | One thing I've always found with doing that with Lonix was that it ended up pushing for time for me to get the last train back home |
| 01:04.23 | wethrin | This coming Friday |
| 01:04.26 | keithlard_ | yeah :( |
| 01:04.31 | keithlard_ | ooh great! where? |
| 01:04.36 | wethrin | Don't know yet :) |
| 01:04.40 | keithlard_ | i don't think i'm on the social list anymore |
| 01:04.45 | wethrin | Oh. You should be! |
| 01:04.59 | keithlard_ | i resigned from all the lists in disgust |
| 01:05.06 | wethrin | I was going to announce it there, as it's a standard passing-through-London Friday thing |
| 01:05.10 | keithlard_ | i was just getting too much inbox bloat :D |
| 01:05.13 | wethrin | Social's not too bad, normally |
| 01:05.14 | wethrin | :) |
| 01:05.40 | keithlard_ | ok well if there's one person i know irl going, i'll go :) |
| 01:05.50 | wethrin | There may be :) |
| 01:06.00 | keithlard_ | hopefully z00dax |
| 01:06.06 | wethrin | He often turns up late |
| 01:06.16 | keithlard_ | i'll see to it that he leaves work early :D |
| 01:06.46 | wethrin | Good man |
| 01:09.34 | Leeds | morgen all |
| 01:09.47 | wethrin | guten morgen |
| 01:10.04 | keithlard_ | what camera have you got? |
| 01:11.16 | wethrin | D50 |
| 01:11.35 | wethrin | With an 18-55mm and 55-200mm lenses |
| 01:13.02 | keithlard_ | have you got a flickr? |
| 01:13.54 | wethrin | Nope. I put photos up on my own website |
| 01:14.08 | wethrin | I'm not trendy enough for these web 2.0 things :) |
| 01:14.24 | keithlard_ | link please |
| 01:14.30 | wethrin | http://eco.li/photos/ |
| 01:14.40 | wethrin | I've been rubbish, and not updated it in months |
| 01:15.22 | wethrin | If I feel particularly trendy, I might put an RSS feed on to say when I update things (which'll pretty much always be photos) |
| 01:16.18 | keithlard_ | cool! |
| 01:18.06 | keithlard_ | baah i'm up too late again |
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| 01:23.05 | keithlard_ | hungry |
| 01:25.31 | Leeds | Romania |
| 01:27.54 | wethrin | Why am I still awake? |
| 01:28.21 | Leeds | because you haven't turned the computer and lights off and gone to bed? |
| 01:28.29 | wethrin | Good point |
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| 03:09.56 | morsing | Check it! |
| 03:26.32 | morsing | ping sabinef72 |
| 03:26.45 | Leeds | at 4:30am? |
| 03:26.53 | morsing | Well, she's logged in |
| 03:27.05 | morsing | I was in jail |
| 03:27.15 | morsing | Had to pay my way out :( |
| 03:27.21 | morsing | $396 |
| 03:27.28 | morsing | ibot change $396 to gbp |
| 03:27.37 | morsing | ibot change 396 usd to gbp |
| 03:27.46 | Leeds | I beg your pardon? |
| 03:28.00 | morsing | 202 pounds :( |
| 03:28.13 | Leeds | for? |
| 03:28.14 | morsing | The police officer was being mean to mean |
| 03:28.21 | morsing | Santa Barbara county jail |
| 03:28.26 | Leeds | what for? |
| 03:28.39 | morsing | Well, excessive speeding and being a foreigner |
| 03:29.25 | Leeds | were you speeding? |
| 03:29.25 | morsing | Uhmm... |
| 03:29.26 | morsing | Yes, as always |
| 03:29.26 | morsing | Bad habbit |
| 03:29.26 | Leeds | are you a total idiot? |
| 03:29.26 | morsing | Yes |
| 03:29.39 | morsing | Should really stop |
| 03:29.45 | morsing | Will do actually |
| 03:30.31 | morsing | So you have never been speeding? |
| 03:30.37 | Leeds | never been caught |
| 03:30.48 | morsing | Right... So why am I an idiot? |
| 03:31.05 | Leeds | for getting caught, abroad |
| 03:31.19 | morsing | Right, I only ever get caught aboad |
| 03:31.21 | Leeds | for doing it abroad, really |
| 03:31.25 | gw280 | morsing: you tool |
| 03:31.30 | morsing | Have been fined four times, all abroad |
| 03:31.49 | morsing | Twice in Australia, twice in the UK and now this |
| 03:32.10 | morsing | Leeds: Why is it worse doing it abroad? |
| 03:32.25 | Leeds | because you're more likely to get a mean cop |
| 03:32.39 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 03:32.53 | Leeds | fucking tourists, don't know how to behave, etc. |
| 03:33.02 | gw280 | morsing: what hte hell are you doing in Santa Barbara? |
| 03:33.19 | morsing | Hmm... I was being nice and polite though and it did make him more friendly in the end |
| 03:33.31 | morsing | gw280: Exploring |
| 03:33.43 | gw280 | morsing: fool |
| 03:33.57 | morsing | gw280: Shouldn't you be at FOSDEM? |
| 03:34.28 | Leeds | morsing: it's long finished |
| 03:34.33 | morsing | Is it? |
| 03:34.41 | morsing | I thought it never really finished? |
| 03:35.04 | gw280 | morsing: no... |
| 03:39.00 | morsing | Who's Frank Scott and is he on drugs? |
| 03:39.32 | Leeds | possibly |
| 03:39.37 | Leeds | either that, or UUCP |
| 03:43.07 | morsing | Do you mean CCCP? City-to-City-Copy? |
| 03:50.30 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 03:52.05 | Leeds | I says what I means and I means what I says |
| 03:53.32 | clive-h | he means uucp |
| 03:53.39 | morsing | Why do people always fall for these Which distro - questions? |
| 03:53.52 | clive-h | x25 ish stuff |
| 03:54.01 | morsing | Not FFCP? Frank-to-Frank-Copy |
| 03:54.15 | clive-h | or worse rs232 |
| 03:54.21 | morsing | Or LBCP? London-to-Brussels-Copy? |
| 03:54.36 | morsing | Am I making any sense? |
| 03:54.41 | clive-h | no |
| 03:54.44 | Leeds | morsing: rarely |
| 03:54.47 | morsing | clive-h: I love you |
| 03:54.52 | morsing | Leeds: You too |
| 03:55.03 | morsing | gw280: Not you |
| 03:55.18 | clive-h | i suffered uucp over x25 |
| 03:55.35 | morsing | Nice |
| 03:56.41 | clive-h | and cu = call unix |
| 03:59.02 | Leeds | woo - I got splogged |
| 04:01.22 | clive-h | ? |
| 04:01.39 | Leeds | content of my blog copied to a spam blog |
| 04:02.05 | clive-h | oh i see |
| 04:41.31 | morsing | Why? |
| 04:49.11 | Cope | why indeed |
| 05:02.06 | gw280 | COPE! |
| 05:08.35 | Cope | hello george |
| 05:11.22 | gw280 | Cope: heylo |
| 06:05.50 | morsing | \Cope? |
| 06:06.02 | Cope | yes? |
| 06:15.36 | gw280 | morsing: lalala |
| 06:17.36 | Cope | shower & |
| 07:46.59 | Cope | fg |
| 08:02.33 | gw280 | moooooooooooooo |
| 08:03.17 | Leeds | okay, I just agreed to buy two tickets for a rock concert at the weekend... |
| 08:15.27 | Cope | righgt |
| 08:45.23 | gw280 | moo |
| 09:07.36 | sabinef72 | morsing ! |
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| 09:38.27 | niv_one_three | :-) |
| 09:41.09 | Leeds | erev tov niv_one_three |
| 09:48.22 | Leeds | http://jobindex.recruit.net/hongkong_linux%252Cwindows%252Csolaris_trends |
| 10:06.54 | keithlard_ | ma shlomcha! |
| 10:07.19 | Leeds | hakol tov, chaver! |
| 10:08.17 | keithlard_ | morning :D |
| 10:12.33 | niv_one_three | so many hebrew speaking here.. |
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| 10:27.15 | bilarh | linux and solaris jobs are all down :( |
| 10:28.10 | Leeds | http://www.jobsdb.com/HK/EN/Job.asp?R=JDB112965321 |
| 10:28.43 | eeeyore | how is java doing? |
| 10:30.59 | bilarh | leeds: how much would a job like that pay, would you have thought? :) |
| 10:31.12 | Leeds | actually, really don't know |
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| 10:31.27 | Leeds | could be anything from about 15k up to maybe double that, I'd think |
| 10:31.42 | bilarh | per month? |
| 10:31.49 | Leeds | yes |
| 10:31.52 | bilarh | ibot convert 15000 HKD to GBP |
| 10:31.55 | Leeds | 1k |
| 10:32.10 | bilarh | what's HKD actually called? :) |
| 10:32.11 | Leeds | ibot change 15000 hkd to gbp |
| 10:32.15 | bilarh | in ibot terms |
| 10:32.16 | bilarh | ah :) |
| 10:32.18 | Leeds | convert is for units, not currencies |
| 10:32.33 | bilarh | ah ok |
| 10:32.44 | Leeds | ibot convert 100 miles to km |
| 10:32.51 | bilarh | clever :) |
| 10:32.57 | bilarh | ibot: clever bot |
| 10:33.07 | Leeds | give him a botsnack |
| 10:33.10 | bilarh | ibot: reboot server |
| 10:33.12 | ibot | ACTION pushes server's reset button |
| 10:33.14 | bilarh | doh :) |
| 10:33.33 | Leeds | ibot botsnack |
| 10:33.33 | ibot | aw, gee, Leeds |
| 10:33.50 | bilarh | ibot: kick bilarh |
| 10:33.52 | ibot | bugger off, bilarh! |
| 10:34.00 | bilarh | excellent :) |
| 10:34.01 | Leeds | remember that there'd be almost no income tax to pay on 15k |
| 10:34.16 | bilarh | when everyone's asleep and or ignoring me, i can now have meaningful conversations with ibot :) |
| 10:34.24 | bilarh | yeah i suppose that makes a difference |
| 10:34.34 | bilarh | but then rent must be quite huge, no? |
| 10:34.43 | bilarh | wasn't it like 800 for a flat or somethign? |
| 10:34.52 | bilarh | i remember you telling me, but i can't remember the figure :) |
| 10:35.14 | Leeds | depends... you can get a small 'local' place for maybe 5k+ |
| 10:35.41 | Leeds | I think 15k is probably above average for locals |
| 10:35.45 | Leeds | or around average |
| 10:36.19 | bilarh | ibot change 15000 hkd to sek |
| 10:36.38 | bilarh | hmm, that would almost be a living wage in sweden |
| 10:36.39 | bilarh | after tax |
| 10:37.22 | Leeds | you'd probably be paying no more than a few $100 a month in tax - say $500 as a round number |
| 10:37.45 | bilarh | oh right, that's not too bad actually :) |
| 10:37.59 | bilarh | does HK have hospitals and stuff? :) |
| 10:38.27 | Leeds | yes, of course... they're not free, but there's a nominal charge in government places |
| 10:38.57 | Leeds | $100 to see a doctor, or something - mainly to stop people abusing it |
| 10:39.45 | bilarh | how is that possible? |
| 10:39.51 | bilarh | i mean if they only collect a pittance in tax |
| 10:39.56 | bilarh | how do they pay for stuff like that? |
| 10:40.08 | bilarh | or is it just that britain (and other western nations) are really badly run? |
| 10:40.29 | Leeds | a couple of things, really... |
| 10:40.34 | Leeds | well, a few... |
| 10:40.45 | Leeds | a big one is that the defense budget here is a nice round $0 |
| 10:41.13 | Leeds | the government is genuinely much smaller, partly as a matter of policy, partly because there are simply less people to govern |
| 10:41.32 | bilarh | ah, defence, yes... |
| 10:41.37 | Leeds | and the government gets a lot of money from other sources - particularly from land 'sales', actually long-term commercial leases |
| 10:42.30 | sabinef72 | Leeds: http://sabinef72.thepink.fr/index.php?num_page=769 <--- here are pictures of the chinese new year |
| 10:42.48 | hali | on the downside the defence budget is usually a break even business, bae in the uk is a massive employeer |
| 10:43.07 | hali | so it's not just gold and green forestest not to have an army |
| 10:43.08 | bilarh | hali: not if you buy stuff abroad it isn't |
| 10:43.27 | hali | bilarh: no, but most governments buy most things local |
| 10:43.41 | hali | bilarh: take sweden as an example... swedens' got a massive defence industry |
| 10:43.42 | murb | bilarh: you forget the kickbacks you receive in that case :-) |
| 10:43.46 | bilarh | no they don't, otherwise there wouldn't be weapons trade :) |
| 10:43.49 | Leeds | hali: maybe in the economy as a whole... but firstly, HK isn't a manufacturing economy nowadays, and secondly we're talking about government spending, not the holistic thing |
| 10:43.53 | hali | bilarh: and we sell a lot of stuff abroad as well, which brings money in to sweden |
| 10:43.58 | hali | bilarh: take saab, bofors etc |
| 10:44.06 | bilarh | saab is owned by GM nowadays |
| 10:44.11 | hali | bilarh: is it? |
| 10:44.19 | murb | bilarh: only the car unit. |
| 10:44.20 | hali | bilarh: not saab aircraft, aerospace etc |
| 10:44.27 | murb | not the aerospace parts |
| 10:44.36 | bilarh | yeah but that's not defence stuff is it |
| 10:44.38 | murb | like volvo sold their cars division. |
| 10:44.43 | bilarh | well, the aircraft stuff partly |
| 10:44.46 | hali | bilarh: aerospace is not defence? |
| 10:44.48 | murb | because cars are not very profitable. |
| 10:44.57 | hali | aerospace developed and manufactur the JAS39 |
| 10:45.14 | Leeds | sabinef72: nice :-) |
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| 10:45.18 | bilarh | hali: ah, but who actually paid for manufacturing and developing that? |
| 10:45.22 | hali | aircraft is doing more and more rnd work for the defence bits these days since they canceled all civilian crafts |
| 10:45.35 | hali | bilarh: the swedish government payed for large bits of it... |
| 10:45.46 | hali | bilarh: which provides jobs for thousands of people in sweden |
| 10:46.16 | hali | not just in saab, they have lots of subcontracts around the country |
| 10:46.51 | bilarh | so they should have just stuck them on the dole then and it would have been cheaper for everyone |
| 10:47.25 | hali | bilarh: thats not very productive is it, saab is pretty self sustained these days after the socialists cut the defence budget |
| 10:47.49 | bilarh | and rightly so |
| 10:47.57 | hali | bilarh: liberal whore! |
| 10:48.09 | hali | bilarh: saab in lkpg does a lot of research for EU projects.. like materials and radar technologies |
| 10:48.11 | bilarh | why should the government hold a failing business under it's arms with massive spending |
| 10:48.21 | bilarh | well, that's great isn't it :) |
| 10:48.22 | goibhniu | hali: murderer! |
| 10:48.24 | hali | bilarh: because we don't want to speak russian? |
| 10:48.31 | bilarh | as long as I don't have to pay for it via my tax money |
| 10:48.45 | hali | bilarh: the old soviet union is growing strong again.. they are infiltrating the EU as well |
| 10:48.49 | bilarh | oh come on, the russians can't even police their own people at the moment |
| 10:48.53 | hali | it's just a matter of time befor they strike back |
| 10:49.00 | bilarh | *whatever* |
| 10:49.03 | hali | killing million of swedish civilians |
| 10:49.08 | hali | to begin with |
| 10:49.19 | hali | then going down the continent and over to the uk |
| 10:49.39 | Leeds | hali: can I have some of that? |
| 10:49.56 | bilarh | leeds :) |
| 10:50.10 | hali | Leeds: you want the EU to be ruled by a soviet dictator? |
| 10:50.22 | Leeds | no, no... some of whatever it is you're smoking... |
| 10:50.28 | hali | with nice little "work camps" they send people to |
| 10:50.39 | hali | ok, im trolling heavily here |
| 10:50.46 | bilarh | yeah right :) |
| 10:50.49 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 10:50.55 | bilarh | be a man and stand up for your views :) |
| 10:50.56 | hali | but being able to defend oneself is pretty key to survivial |
| 10:50.57 | Leeds | TROLL! |
| 10:50.58 | goibhniu | hali: with weapons designed and funded by swedish tax payers ... suckers!!! |
| 10:51.22 | hali | goibhniu: we're not actually allowed to sell arms to anyone we think may use them :) |
| 10:51.35 | Leeds | hali: not directly, I'd assume |
| 10:51.59 | Leeds | the normal trick is to sell them to someone who then sells them onto Mr. Al-Terroristi |
| 10:52.19 | hali | goibhniu: swedish law says is quite gay there... we can only seel to nations screended by some bogus commite which determines that they will not use the weapons in any offensive actions... it's a "defence industry" :) |
| 10:52.20 | goibhniu | e.g. the US |
| 10:52.44 | Leeds | hali: it's a happy law? |
| 10:52.45 | hali | i believe in the free market |
| 10:52.57 | hali | Leeds: yes, from the 60's... with flowers and happy music |
| 10:53.06 | goibhniu | hali ... just because abba was invented in sweden doesn't mean you have to kill the rest of us |
| 10:53.22 | hali | goibhniu: we did actually make an official appology for abba :) |
| 10:53.46 | goibhniu | hali: abba rock very much! |
| 10:53.57 | bilarh | i love abba |
| 10:53.58 | hali | besides, abba is way bigger here in the uk than they ever where in sweden |
| 10:54.04 | goibhniu | hali: ace of base on the other hand ... are just catchy |
| 10:54.11 | bilarh | ah rubbish, abba were big in sweden as well |
| 10:54.27 | bilarh | ace of base suck |
| 10:54.36 | hali | abba was big back in the 80's yes |
| 10:54.38 | hali | noone cares any more |
| 10:54.40 | goibhniu | hedningarna are the best (swedish?) band ever |
| 10:54.59 | bilarh | goibhniu: ah, they were sort of abba time, weren't they? |
| 10:55.01 | hali | while here in the uk there are tv programs about abba every two weeks |
| 10:55.10 | hali | never heard of hedningarna :) |
| 10:55.13 | bilarh | that's because british people are living in the past, on many levels |
| 10:55.23 | goibhniu | bilarh: they're still chuggin away with their chainsaw powered folk music |
| 10:55.33 | hali | look in to 'hepstars', the male abba band members had a band before abba |
| 10:55.42 | bilarh | goibhniu: cool :D |
| 10:56.00 | hali | http://www.hedningarna.se/ :) |
| 10:56.05 | hali | some MC gang :) |
| 10:56.26 | bilarh | my god :D |
| 10:56.30 | bilarh | how do i join? |
| 10:56.38 | bilarh | can i join up if i have a scooter? |
| 10:56.55 | bilarh | hardcore: http://www.hedningarna.se/final/img/home_logo.jpg |
| 10:57.21 | hali | anyhow, i need to work on my defence strategy |
| 10:57.23 | goibhniu | http://www.amazon.com/Hedningarna/dp/B00005BGKI |
| 10:57.29 | hali | i.e. write a few more mod_security rules :) |
| 10:57.38 | bilarh | you guys, you have to check this out: http://www.hedningarna.se/final/memb.php |
| 10:57.53 | bilarh | oops, boudiccas is around |
| 10:58.01 | bilarh | you people, check the link above out :) |
| 10:58.04 | goibhniu | for anyone who isn't swedish .. hedningarna means pagans |
| 10:58.27 | goibhniu | and they're not really bikers ... just everyone wants to be a pagan these days so competition for urls is tough |
| 10:59.09 | bilarh | i'd be a pagan for a day, if only for the young virgins |
| 11:00.41 | goibhniu | bilarh: you can only do that if you drink a litre of your own urine |
| 11:00.49 | bilarh | goibhniu: so? :) |
| 11:01.36 | goibhniu | bilarh: some people don't have urine soaked corn flakes for breakfast |
| 11:01.56 | bilarh | carrots and sticks, my friend.. carrots and sticks |
| 11:02.57 | Leeds | okay, okay, I go away and chat for a few minutes, and people are talking about urine, rather than just extracting it as usual... |
| 11:03.00 | Leeds | who needs a kicking??? |
| 11:03.49 | bilarh | ibot started it all |
| 11:04.16 | Leeds | ibot kick bilarh |
| 11:04.18 | ibot | bugger off, leeds! |
| 11:04.26 | *** kick/#gllug [bilarh!n=richardc@210.245.153.200] by Leeds (Leeds) |
| 11:04.30 | Leeds | guess I've got to do it then |
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| 11:04.47 | bilarh | oi! :) |
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| 11:18.43 | goibhniu | wow! a US congressperson saw something on Democracy Now and raised it with the bushmeister |
| 11:19.12 | bilarh | what does that mean> |
| 11:19.12 | bilarh | ? |
| 11:22.47 | goibhniu | well I only every saw democracy now through democracyplayer ... it's a pretty independent news program ... 1 hr a day I think |
| 11:23.01 | goibhniu | I didn't think politicians would be watching it |
| 11:23.43 | goibhniu | the news they report is a little different from cnn |
| 11:23.59 | Leeds | as long as it's not indymedia-type |
| 11:24.06 | goibhniu | I guess they have it on public tv over there |
| 11:24.19 | goibhniu | I've never seen much come out of indymedia |
| 11:24.31 | goibhniu | seems to be pretty adolescent what I've seen |
| 11:24.55 | goibhniu | democracy now ... is very academic ... and low budget production |
| 11:25.20 | goibhniu | they do get really good interviews ... there's a podcast too |
| 11:26.39 | Leeds | pub quiz time |
| 11:26.39 | goibhniu | to me it's significant because it means that this type of independant show may result in Bush changing a law ... i.e. we are the media |
| 11:26.43 | bilarh | hmm |
| 11:26.46 | bilarh | well, at the end of the day |
| 11:26.56 | bilarh | the politicians ultimately want to stay in office, right |
| 11:27.00 | bilarh | because they're greedy bastards :) |
| 11:27.11 | bilarh | anyway, this makes them want to please the electorate |
| 11:27.23 | bilarh | because then they get voted back in |
| 11:27.25 | goibhniu | bilarh: yeah ... democracy is shit |
| 11:27.26 | bilarh | ergo, democracty |
| 11:27.31 | bilarh | democracy, even |
| 11:27.41 | bilarh | hmm |
| 11:27.44 | goibhniu | down with it |
| 11:27.51 | bilarh | hehe fascist freak :) |
| 11:27.55 | goibhniu | robots ftw! |
| 11:28.08 | goibhniu | humans for the compost |
| 11:28.47 | bilarh | i like your style... i'll candidate with the slogans |
| 11:28.50 | bilarh | i might change it a little |
| 11:29.12 | bilarh | humous for compotte, maybe |
| 11:29.18 | bilarh | yes, that will be my slogan |
| 11:29.57 | bilarh | so anyway, if anyone remembers the xml problems i had |
| 11:30.12 | bilarh | it turns out i can getrid of comments and crap :) |
| 11:30.27 | bilarh | so my code got reduced to a couple of recursive functions to modify the tree |
| 11:30.45 | bilarh | i think it's only the second or third time i've written something useful recursively :) |
| 11:30.49 | bilarh | well, maybe 5th |
| 11:31.07 | bilarh | i don't like trees much |
| 11:31.39 | goibhniu | bilarh: trees like human compost |
| 11:32.13 | bilarh | indeed they probably do |
| 11:32.18 | bilarh | burn them, i say |
| 11:32.40 | bilarh | but, alas, there is no secret door :( |
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| 11:33.41 | bilarh | THREE ANTS! |
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| 11:36.48 | cope|work | ffs grr |
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| 11:42.58 | keithlard_ | Cope: woo! |
| 11:43.13 | keithlard_ | baah |
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| 13:38.54 | dick_turpin | ibot ram a turnip up goibhniu |
| 13:46.48 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: good afternoon |
| 14:05.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'm back just fleecing a potential customer you know how it is? |
| 14:06.45 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I have no idea .. but I can fantasise |
| 14:08.24 | dick_turpin | Their provider has died, seeing as I'm a caring individual I leapt over the body and presented our whares :-) |
| 14:10.18 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: Roy Orbison ... there ... I've said it |
| 14:10.47 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: you were just pretending to be too young to remember |
| 14:13.17 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'm sure I said that name, I may have to turn 'logging' on so that I have evidence to fall back on |
| 14:15.42 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: you said Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash and Nick or Hank or something ... but I'm glad to see you're ashamed |
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| 14:16.05 | YoussefAssad | hullo |
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| 14:16.32 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: since you're the winner (by default) it's your turn today |
| 14:16.41 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I will be whipping myself with a birch stick later |
| 14:16.52 | YoussefAssad | I have a really quick question; would GBP 25K be regarded as something one could live comfortably on? In Oxford? |
| 14:16.55 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Ooh goody |
| 14:17.01 | dick_turpin | ready? |
| 14:17.19 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: Oxford is pretty expensive |
| 14:17.22 | YoussefAssad | (guessing not, but just want to make sure; no frame of reference for British currency) |
| 14:17.27 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: oh |
| 14:17.39 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: depends on your comforts but you wouldn't be hungry |
| 14:18.02 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: shoot |
| 14:18.15 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: hm. Okay, thanks for the input sir. |
| 14:18.29 | dick_turpin | "Pushing through the market square" |
| 14:18.41 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: Oxford is pretty nice ... I cycle through there every day |
| 14:19.14 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: I wouldn't mind it, but I got to watch the bottom line |
| 14:19.15 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: female singer? 60s-ish? |
| 14:19.57 | dick_turpin | Male in his 60s I'm a big fan and up yours if you dont like him :-) |
| 14:20.32 | YoussefAssad | Barry Manilow? |
| 14:20.44 | YoussefAssad | How oculd you? |
| 14:21.07 | dick_turpin | YoussefAssad: In the word of a TV add "Youre bard" |
| 14:21.17 | YoussefAssad | heh |
| 14:21.41 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Need some more? |
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| 14:23.13 | dick_turpin | well? |
| 14:24.26 | dick_turpin | groan, phone 2 secs |
| 14:29.46 | dick_turpin | I'm back |
| 14:30.27 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: go on then ... an easy one |
| 14:30.31 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: "Pushing through the market sqaure, so many mothers sighing" |
| 14:30.41 | goibhniu | Barry Manilow?? |
| 14:31.17 | goibhniu | oh ... now I get it YoussefAssad was wrong |
| 14:31.39 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: "Pushing through the market sqaure, so many mothers sighing, news had just come over" |
| 14:32.53 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: "Pushing through the market sqaure, so many mothers sighing, news had just come over, we had five years left to cry in" |
| 14:32.55 | goibhniu | Bob Dylan? |
| 14:33.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You looking for a slap? |
| 14:34.27 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: what's the chorus? |
| 14:34.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I've just given you the title |
| 14:35.10 | goibhniu | L Cohen? |
| 14:35.30 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: 5 Years |
| 14:35.58 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: Pink Floyd?? |
| 14:36.13 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: No but they are cool too |
| 14:36.27 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: british? |
| 14:36.40 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'll give you some other songs by him |
| 14:37.15 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Heros, Lets Dance, Ziggy Stardust |
| 14:38.41 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: ahh come on ... you didn't have to make me look like an idiot |
| 14:39.12 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I could have said something but I like you ;-) |
| 14:40.16 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: 5 years should have been plenty alright |
| 14:43.13 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Youre still a star in my eyes |
| 14:52.43 | niv_one_three | wethrin! |
| 14:56.08 | wethrin | niv! |
| 15:07.04 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 15:10.01 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 15:13.38 | morsing | wethrin: You're up early? |
| 15:13.44 | morsing | How was FOSDEM? |
| 15:13.52 | morsing | Hay-on-Rye? |
| 15:13.57 | wethrin | Early!? |
| 15:14.04 | wethrin | FOSDEM was good |
| 15:14.08 | morsing | It's only 7 |
| 15:14.11 | wethrin | Hay's not happening |
| 15:14.13 | wethrin | It's 3.15pm |
| 15:14.21 | morsing | Hay's not hapening?!?! |
| 15:14.29 | morsing | Why? For you or everybody? |
| 15:14.44 | wethrin | It's not happening just yet |
| 15:14.51 | morsing | Errmmm |
| 15:14.52 | morsing | ? |
| 15:14.59 | wethrin | It's happening over Easter |
| 15:15.04 | wethrin | Kitty might know something |
| 15:15.05 | morsing | And what's the next LBW/mini-LBW? |
| 15:15.20 | morsing | Here Kitty... |
| 15:15.21 | wethrin | There's one in Scotland in May |
| 15:15.38 | morsing | Nice. Why Scotland again? |
| 15:15.51 | wethrin | It's a mini-one |
| 15:15.52 | murb | morsing: because some canadianaiaiaian wnated to visit it. |
| 15:15.56 | wethrin | Up in St. Andrews |
| 15:16.25 | Kitty | ? |
| 15:16.45 | morsing | Who |
| 15:16.53 | morsing | 's the canadian? |
| 15:17.05 | morsing | Kitty: Has the LBW been planned this year? |
| 15:17.08 | Kitty | there is talk of a mini one in Hay-On-Wye over the easter weekend |
| 15:17.15 | Kitty | morsing: the main one is in crete 2-9th september |
| 15:17.27 | niv_one_three | morsing: where u at fosedem? |
| 15:17.41 | murb | Kitty: talk of it not running this year, true. |
| 15:17.51 | morsing | But St. Andrews is on the east coast? That's boring... |
| 15:18.05 | wethrin | Tough :-P |
| 15:18.18 | morsing | niv_one_three: Nope. I'm in California. Just got out of jail |
| 15:18.48 | morsing | wethrin: Well, I'm just saying as a first time visitor it might not be the most interesting |
| 15:18.59 | morsing | I want to go to Hay though |
| 15:19.05 | Kitty | murb: well the HoW is looking good, I have 12 people booked so far |
| 15:19.08 | morsing | Crete? Maybe if I can afford it |
| 15:19.22 | morsing | Kitty: Cool, I need to book as well |
| 15:19.35 | Kitty | morsing: to the pm! |
| 15:19.45 | morsing | pm? |
| 15:19.56 | morsing | BTW: Who owns Crete? |
| 15:20.04 | murb | .gr |
| 15:20.08 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:20.24 | murb | they faile dto 0wner cyprus. |
| 15:21.24 | Kitty | morsing: pm |
| 15:21.41 | morsing | How much would a return flight to Crete be? Or are we driving? |
| 15:22.42 | murb | morsing: about 200 quid when il ooked. |
| 15:22.57 | murb | you might find packages that include flights and accomidation in the choosen resort. |
| 15:27.21 | morsing | Kitty: Train? Isn't that expensive? |
| 15:27.34 | Kitty | morsing: dunno, |
| 15:27.37 | murb | morsing: just slow. |
| 15:27.42 | YoussefAssad | eh, how confusing. |
| 15:28.00 | YoussefAssad | I have no frame of reference at all! goibhniu, help! |
| 15:28.34 | morsing | What town in Crete are we going to? |
| 15:28.34 | wethrin | Train will probably be > £200 |
| 15:28.34 | YoussefAssad | is 30K good enough for Oxford? I'm going to keep on asking until you whack me on the back of the head |
| 15:28.56 | morsing | YoussefAssad: That's quite good |
| 15:29.04 | murb | YoussefAssad: what is the job? |
| 15:29.25 | murb | what are the hours, what holiday entitlements and other benifits? |
| 15:29.33 | YoussefAssad | swapping an org over to free software |
| 15:30.08 | murb | managing it or? |
| 15:30.11 | YoussefAssad | murb: I'm used to 80 hour work weeks with the current job :) Whatever the circumstances in this one, can't be worse |
| 15:30.21 | YoussefAssad | yes, some'n like that |
| 15:30.27 | murb | YoussefAssad: is it beign done on a contract basis? |
| 15:30.33 | morsing | YoussefAssad: What will your job title be? |
| 15:30.34 | murb | what will happen then you've finished? |
| 15:30.44 | YoussefAssad | All stuff I've done before and at higher levels, but would be a good way to hit the ground running moving back to Europe |
| 15:31.21 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: you have my blessing |
| 15:31.39 | YoussefAssad | okay, now I just need to get the missus to approve |
| 15:31.45 | YoussefAssad | murb: Yep |
| 15:32.21 | YoussefAssad | morsing: That is apparently up to me. I'm not sure if they're flexible enough to let me write "Saviour and Senior Prophet on the card though |
| 15:34.07 | YoussefAssad | Imagine if you will; an open source project. The scope is global, the people steering it are... (cue ominous violins)... Ex-Microsoft staffers. |
| 15:34.08 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: you do know that the UK sucks? |
| 15:34.22 | morsing | Google and Multimap don't know about Greece |
| 15:34.51 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: Take my place in the Middle East? :) |
| 15:35.47 | murb | YoussefAssad: oh is it set up to fail? |
| 15:35.55 | murb | goibhniu: what doesn't? |
| 15:36.37 | goibhniu | murb: the robots |
| 15:36.53 | YoussefAssad | murb: not if I have anything to say about it. I've been looking forward to delivering a scathing critique to the president upon departure |
| 15:37.09 | YoussefAssad | eh... I'm getting old and cranky. sorry |
| 15:40.58 | morsing | Ok, looking at a map the distance to Crete would be less than 2000 miles |
| 15:41.11 | morsing | So 2 days driving or something |
| 15:41.29 | morsing | How long does it take be train? |
| 15:41.42 | wethrin | Probably about as long |
| 15:41.46 | morsing | Nice |
| 15:41.55 | morsing | And flying is about the same |
| 15:42.04 | wethrin | Should be able to fly in a couple of hours to Crete |
| 15:44.31 | morsing | Well, 4h check in and out on each side, delays, cancellations... |
| 15:44.38 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going to Crete? |
| 15:44.49 | wethrin | Dunno. Unlikely |
| 15:44.57 | wethrin | morsing: cynic |
| 15:45.07 | morsing | :) |
| 15:45.14 | morsing | wethrin: Unlikely? Why? |
| 15:45.18 | murb | morsing: not with a charter airline from a minor airport |
| 15:45.18 | morsing | :( |
| 15:45.25 | wethrin | morsing: Lack of time/money |
| 15:45.29 | morsing | wethrin: :( |
| 15:45.45 | murb | morsing: you could sponser wethrin to attend. |
| 15:45.48 | morsing | wethrin: I won't be going either then |
| 15:45.55 | morsing | murb: I could sort off |
| 15:46.09 | morsing | wethrin: Even if I drive you for free? |
| 15:47.25 | wethrin | morsing: Maybe then.... |
| 15:47.53 | morsing | wethrin: :) |
| 15:47.59 | morsing | wethrin: We'll bring a tent |
| 15:48.36 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:48.57 | morsing | And load up Big Red with Dr. Pepper and Doughnuts |
| 15:51.05 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going to Hay though? |
| 15:51.33 | morsing | ping sabinef72 |
| 15:53.24 | wethrin | morsing: No. Easter weekend's always a bad time |
| 15:55.21 | morsing | wethrin: Yeah, same for me. It's around both my nephew's birthdays and normally want to go to visit :( |
| 15:57.20 | wethrin | should go a bit earlier and buy out all the nice old books :) |
| 15:57.28 | morsing | Yes |
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| 16:06.08 | morsing | catalyst`lappy! |
| 16:06.15 | morsing | catalyst`lappy: Where's sabinef72? |
| 16:06.28 | catalyst`lappy | morsing: I do not know :( |
| 16:13.36 | morsing | murb: You're not coming to Hay? |
| 16:15.10 | murb | morsing: no because it isn't being organised this year. |
| 16:15.22 | morsing | Yes it is |
| 16:15.35 | morsing | murb: What makes you think that? |
| 16:15.46 | murb | morsing: drhyde already announced its cancellation. |
| 16:15.58 | murb | or non arrangment. |
| 16:16.11 | murb | so any meeting that happens in hay is on offical and unsancationed. |
| 16:16.31 | morsing | murb: And the problem is? |
| 16:16.34 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 16:17.09 | murb | no problem, i'm just not going. |
| 16:17.26 | morsing | murb: Weirdo |
| 16:17.29 | morsing | :) |
| 16:18.35 | morsing | wethrin: Are you going to St. Andrews and when is it? |
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| 16:23.11 | morsing | YoussefAssad! |
| 16:23.17 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 16:23.18 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 16:23.59 | morsing | murb: http://www.quixotic.org/misc/HayOnWye/ |
| 16:28.36 | morsing | Wow - Crete accommodation is expensive! |
| 16:29.21 | morsing | Ok, I'm not going, can't afford that |
| 16:30.54 | YoussefAssad | morsing! |
| 16:31.22 | YoussefAssad | eh, youterm.com is nifty |
| 16:32.23 | murb | morsing: http://lbw2007.hellug.gr/ |
| 16:33.23 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: termcasting! ... that gets "word of the day" |
| 16:51.11 | YoussefAssad | it's really cute; they even provide telnet access |
| 16:51.50 | YoussefAssad | note to self: do not waste time hoking up mplayer -vo aa with the python script to download youtube material, and pipe it all into ssh |
| 16:53.24 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: are you a leet smbclient guru? |
| 16:53.36 | goibhniu | mount error 13 = Permission denied :( |
| 16:55.25 | goibhniu | from mount -t cifs //share/folder /mnt/evil -o username=blah,password=blah,domain=blah |
| 16:55.46 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: oh, hardly. I'm sadly more of a suit than anything :\ |
| 16:56.05 | goibhniu | YoussefAssad: you need to be paid more money :( |
| 16:57.38 | YoussefAssad | goibhniu: for being wise enough to have avoided the evil that is samba thus far, yes |
| 17:01.54 | wethrin | morsing: !! |
| 17:12.52 | Leeds | okay, let me ask the gllug massive... on the Simpsons, Mr. Burns' first name? |
| 17:14.36 | YoussefAssad | with or without asking google, Mr. Leeds? |
| 17:15.01 | wethrin | Leeds: C - possibly Charles |
| 17:15.19 | wethrin | But it's a name he never uses |
| 17:15.30 | Leeds | without asking Google - it was the deciding question in this evening's pub quiz |
| 17:16.28 | Leeds | one team put Charles, the other put Montgomery - Monty was given as the right answer, which resulted in a draw |
| 17:16.37 | wethrin | I didn't ask Google |
| 17:16.44 | wethrin | His name is "C Montgomery Burns" |
| 17:17.18 | wethrin | I don't recall if his first name was ever given in any episode (although Charles is familiar, so it might have happened once) |
| 17:17.21 | Leeds | and the C stands for Charles |
| 17:17.45 | Leeds | my team were the ones who put Charles... |
| 17:17.59 | wethrin | Leeds: Which episode was that revealed in? |
| 17:18.04 | Leeds | don't know, offhand |
| 17:18.10 | wethrin | right |
| 17:18.19 | wethrin | But Monty is certainly *not* his first name |
| 17:18.40 | Leeds | right, it's certainly something starting with C... even if it wasn't Charles, we should have won by one point |
| 17:19.02 | Leeds | we did win, but only on a tie-breaking drink-off |
| 17:19.16 | wethrin | Complain at the quiz organisers |
| 17:19.39 | Leeds | we did, loudly |
| 17:20.18 | Leeds | to be honest, it was a bit of a grudge match anyway - there'd been some slightly nasty trash talking online in the build-up to the quiz :-) |
| 17:27.25 | wethrin | :) |
| 17:30.19 | Leeds | http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/pub-quiz-bulldogs-t16228p6.html |
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| 17:59.52 | bilarh | oh well, screw you peple |
| 17:59.54 | bilarh | people |
| 18:00.03 | bilarh | i'm off to sample some urine |
| 18:00.14 | wethrin | Drinking Carling? |
| 18:00.24 | bilarh | nah it's part of a pagan ritual :) |
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| 18:25.47 | sabinef72 | morsing ! |
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| 20:38.13 | Dick_Turpin | clive-h, |
| 20:40.20 | clive-h | hi |
| 20:43.34 | Dick_Turpin | Hi I was gonna ask you a question but I think I may have sorted it 2 sec |
| 20:44.48 | clive-h | ok |
| 20:46.12 | Dick_Turpin | bum, I should know this, why will index.php not display but gives you the option to save or open with gedit? |
| 20:47.06 | boudiccas | A = Assess, P = Plan, I = Implement, and E = Evaluate |
| 20:48.27 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, youre a lovley person but I'm not in the mood for riddles |
| 20:49.05 | boudiccas | Its no riddle. Its 'the nursing process'. What every nurse does when caring for their patients |
| 20:49.28 | Dick_Turpin | boudiccas, not the nurses I've known ;-) |
| 20:49.40 | boudiccas | After using it for several years it becomes instinctive |
| 20:50.01 | boudiccas | depends on the context in which you knwo them :) |
| 20:50.06 | boudiccas | *know |
| 20:51.36 | Dick_Turpin | aarrrrgghhh Bloody Apache, Bloody Cacti, Bloody Suse, Bloody Linux |
| 20:54.51 | clive-h | oh dear |
| 21:14.36 | wethrin | Dick's not put the appropriate handleers into Apache |
| 21:15.45 | clive-h | probably |
| 21:16.47 | wethrin | So it's just sending the php source file, rather than interpreting it |
| 21:23.00 | clive-h | aye |
| 21:23.16 | clive-h | needs to update httpd.conf |
| 21:35.22 | gw280 | wethrin: YOU SUCK |
| 21:51.22 | z00dax | gw280: you suck |
| 21:52.31 | z00dax | there is a security hole, sending raw php |
| 22:08.55 | hali | mod_security it? |
| 22:09.30 | hali | ticky tack rules! |
| 22:10.40 | z00dax | hali: how was fosdem |
| 22:10.42 | gw280 | z00dax: I love you |
| 22:17.03 | morsing | gw280: You suck |
| 22:17.55 | hali | z00dax: you tell me, i was in london :) |
| 22:18.23 | sabinef72 | morsing !!!!!!!!! |
| 22:18.23 | z00dax | gw280: steady now... |
| 22:18.36 | z00dax | sabinef72: morsing! hali! |
| 22:18.46 | sabinef72 | hello z00dax what's up ? |
| 22:19.51 | z00dax | sabinef72: nothign much - consolidating stuff from fosdem and also trying to keep up at wor |
| 22:19.54 | z00dax | work |
| 22:20.00 | z00dax | and also planning a trip to Paris |
| 22:20.16 | sabinef72 | yeah Paris ! |
| 22:20.18 | sabinef72 | when ? |
| 22:20.31 | sabinef72 | how are you morsing ? Did you find a nice police woman ? |
| 22:21.07 | trousers_ | Ooh err :S |
| 22:21.13 | z00dax | sabinef72: not sure yet, will be over a weekend in March |
| 22:21.20 | z00dax | sabinef72: I need to get a visa and also get tickets etc |
| 22:21.32 | sabinef72 | I see |
| 22:21.38 | sabinef72 | tell me when you will know more |
| 22:21.49 | z00dax | sure |
| 22:22.01 | sabinef72 | if I'll be not so tired with the baby, I'll be your guide if you want |
| 22:22.03 | z00dax | I need to ask you as well, what are the best places to stay etc |
| 22:22.37 | sabinef72 | yes of course |
| 22:22.54 | sabinef72 | for example, don't book into a hotel in Paris, it's very expensive |
| 22:23.11 | sabinef72 | you should choose one farest from the city |
| 22:23.28 | sabinef72 | for example near my home, there is a nice hotel for only 60 euros by night |
| 22:23.41 | sabinef72 | in the city of paris it's around 100-150 euros |
| 22:23.46 | z00dax | baby ? |
| 22:23.56 | sabinef72 | z00dax: yes I'm pregnant |
| 22:24.02 | z00dax | hey, congrats |
| 22:24.05 | sabinef72 | thanks |
| 22:24.38 | z00dax | when is the DueDay |
| 22:24.48 | sabinef72 | october 14 th |
| 22:25.02 | sabinef72 | for the moment it's the beginning (7 weeks) and I'm still very very tired |
| 22:25.03 | z00dax | nice |
| 22:25.38 | z00dax | sabinef72: how far is your place from the train station where EuroStar comes ? |
| 22:26.06 | sabinef72 | around 1 hour |
| 22:26.18 | sabinef72 | then home to the middle of the city : around 45 min |
| 22:26.32 | z00dax | wow |
| 22:26.53 | z00dax | you think its not worth living close to the city ? considering its the first time that we are going to be there.. |
| 22:27.28 | sabinef72 | it's not so far |
| 22:27.28 | clive-h | i like the eurostar |
| 22:27.37 | z00dax | (eurostar)++ |
| 22:28.00 | sabinef72 | transportations in Paris need always time |
| 22:28.01 | clive-h | and there's a nice bar by the gare de nord that does draught framboise |
| 22:28.24 | clive-h | i normally walk in the city |
| 22:28.25 | sabinef72 | kriek framboise ! |
| 22:28.43 | clive-h | mmm kriek is even better |
| 22:28.53 | z00dax | cheery beer ? |
| 22:29.00 | clive-h | yes |
| 22:29.02 | z00dax | are you guys actually mad or something |
| 22:29.04 | sabinef72 | z00dax: and only 15 mn from my home you have the chateau de versailles |
| 22:29.06 | morsing | sabinef72: No - the policeman didn't like me I think |
| 22:29.30 | sabinef72 | rasperry beer |
| 22:29.52 | clive-h | framboise is raspberry beer |
| 22:30.04 | clive-h | kriek is cherry beer |
| 22:30.13 | z00dax | humm |
| 22:30.15 | morsing | clive-h: Huh? |
| 22:30.20 | z00dax | I did try some this time in .be |
| 22:30.56 | z00dax | what I would like to know is if there is somewhere I can get Duval here in London |
| 22:31.49 | clive-h | sure |
| 22:31.54 | clive-h | try tescos |
| 22:32.02 | z00dax | really ? |
| 22:32.02 | clive-h | they sell duval |
| 22:32.04 | trousers_ | Duval? |
| 22:32.05 | z00dax | how about Kriek |
| 22:32.13 | wethrin | Arrr! |
| 22:32.14 | clive-h | and kriek |
| 22:32.19 | z00dax | damn |
| 22:32.20 | wethrin | Mmm....beer |
| 22:32.27 | trousers_ | Nothing. |
| 22:32.30 | z00dax | hey, I like Duval or even Orval |
| 22:32.45 | clive-h | and chimay |
| 22:32.52 | trousers_ | Duval? |
| 22:32.53 | z00dax | chimay is cool too |
| 22:32.57 | z00dax | trousers_: ale |
| 22:33.04 | clive-h | of course there's always belgos |
| 22:33.06 | trousers_ | Ahh |
| 22:33.27 | trousers_ | I am not one to consume alcohol beverages |
| 22:33.31 | trousers_ | At least, not intentionally |
| 22:33.48 | wethrin | z00dax: Waitrose definitely sells the Belgian beers |
| 22:34.08 | z00dax | humm... there is a waitrose just down the road |
| 22:34.13 | clive-h | my local offie sells hoegaarden and leffe |
| 22:34.16 | wethrin | Good man! |
| 22:34.19 | z00dax | must pop around for morning coffee |
| 22:34.45 | z00dax | leffe does not go down my throat, none of the leffe's do |
| 22:35.05 | clive-h | lol |
| 22:35.36 | z00dax | it sort of sits in between the back of my tongue and the area above the tonsils |
| 22:36.07 | clive-h | i love belgian beers |
| 22:36.22 | morsing | clive-h: Danish beers are better |
| 22:36.31 | clive-h | did my last birthday in auberge at waterloo |
| 22:36.36 | morsing | And I DON'T mean that UK export crap |
| 22:41.05 | wethrin | Some Belgian beers are god-awful, and some are lovely |
| 22:41.30 | wethrin | The Carlsberg beer I had in Denmark was generally nice. Unlike the stuff here |
| 22:42.49 | clive-h | .dk beer is very expensive |
| 22:44.31 | morsing | clive-h: No it's not |
| 22:44.48 | morsing | And how do you (think you) know? |
| 22:44.55 | morsing | clive-h: Are you really murb? |
| 22:44.55 | clive-h | or maybe i'm thinking of .no |
| 22:45.03 | morsing | clive-h: I think you are... |
| 22:45.05 | clive-h | i'm not murb |
