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00:03.38z00daxhello
00:05.07adminjshello
00:09.09z00daxhello adminjs, good start to the weekend ?
00:09.39adminjsnaa
00:09.53adminjsthe rain caught me
00:10.52adminjsgilmore girls are knackered
00:11.18adminjsno time for lugradio
00:11.42adminjswatched video from fosdem
00:12.02adminjsstill jetlag
00:12.32adminjsany questions?
00:15.06z00daxabout what ?
00:15.23adminjsdunno
00:16.33z00daxok lets see, what would be a good question ?
00:16.41z00daxhow about the winning lottery tickets for the next draw ?
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00:17.28adminjsi don't buy llottery
00:18.04catalystw00t, in the space of a day I've set up my ITX box to be a samba fileserver, printserver and wireless AP :)
00:18.06catalystwith debian stable
00:18.15catalystand a little googling \o/
00:18.39z00dax*sugh*
00:18.47z00daxs/u/i/
00:18.52catalystz00dax!
00:18.56catalystmorsing!
00:18.56z00daxcatalyst: !
00:18.58adminjsITX?
00:19.01catalystadminjs!
00:19.02z00daxsince when did you turn to the dark side ?
00:19.12catalystit's a mini-itx box, epia 5000
00:19.21adminjsaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
00:19.26catalystentirely fanless, the only moving parts being the hard disk :)
00:19.29catalystand occasionally the DVD drive
00:19.54catalystI bought it two years ago as a little messaround machine but I decided to do something useful with it today. I renamed it too... RIP doorstop
00:20.11z00dax:)
00:20.18adminjsi use old laptop for that
00:20.21z00daxwhat cpu is it ? if its 2 years old most likely a c3
00:20.32catalystC3 sounds familiar
00:21.06clive-hvia c3
00:24.33adminjsdoorstop is good
00:29.15catalystit was called doorstop for a long time in recognition of the fact that it did nothing of much use ;)
00:33.18adminjsi knew that
00:34.25catalyst/o\
00:37.13z00daxdrink more coffee
00:37.33catalystwell, I *have* just boiled the kettle
00:39.21z00daxgo on then
00:39.27z00daxI'll have my black, no sugar
00:40.36catalystit may be a little cold when it arrives
00:42.53adminjsarrives?
00:44.39z00daxno worries, i am powering up my Alpha/500u
00:44.47catalyst:D
00:52.33adminjsgood night
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01:56.29Leedsibot change 2180 hkd to gbp
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07:15.09morsingAnyone up?
07:35.11morsingping Leeds
07:35.13morsingping sabinef72
07:36.53morsingundresses
07:45.19morsingMmm... Jet-lag
08:20.51sabinef72morsing : pong
08:57.55gw280hrmm
09:00.02morsinggw280!
09:00.23gw280morsing: piss off
09:10.28gw280lalala
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11:11.44morsingLeeds!
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11:28.00morsinggoibhniu!
11:28.27morsinggoibhniu: Is it a limited company I need to setup? How do I check existing names?
11:29.06gw280MOO
11:29.17morsinggoibhniu: And what about liability and insurance?
11:31.12morsingping goibhniu
11:31.16morsingibot wake goibhniu
11:31.19ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on goibhniu and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
11:34.51goibhniumorsing!!
11:35.21goibhniuyep a limited company is the way to go
11:35.30goibhniuyou can search for names on companies house
11:36.25goibhniuI assume you don't need investors to get your business off the ground and your not likely to be sued by your secretary if s/he gets rsi?
11:36.31goibhniuyou can get insurance if you like
11:36.51goibhniumaybe you need it if you're responsible for people's data etc
11:37.23goibhniuif the shit hits the fan you can fold the company and walk away, but then you can't set up another one for 5 years or something
11:38.16goibhniuhave you got a good name?
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12:07.00adminjsmorning
12:10.19morsingadminjs!
12:11.00morsinggoibhniu: As I said yesterday I own the domain aixperts.co.uk, so... AIXperts would be the name
12:11.15morsingI need liability insurance for sure though
12:13.49goibhniuI guess you need to find a lawyer then, would be important for looking at contracts too
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14:09.02morsingchr1s!
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15:06.57z00daxi feel the need
15:23.59morsingNice
15:24.18morsingz00dax: What's wrong with my one windscreen washer nozzle????
15:24.43z00daxibot: morsing
15:24.51ibotmethinks morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. capable of having bee-wax applied to the plucking end, or mozrat, or verb: to paste random crap devoid of context, or not a CNAME for mozrat, or a Python expert, or a philistine
15:24.52morsingibot z00dax
15:25.28z00daxI win!
15:29.37morsingibot z00dax
15:30.40morsingz00dax: How come at U.S. airports you get a straw with your coffee?
15:32.55z00daxmorsing: perhaps you looked posh, and not the sorts who would mess up your lipgloss on the cup
15:33.11morsingHmm...
15:33.37morsingThey did it at both LAX and DTW. They never did it outside airports though
15:34.39morsingz00dax: So who is it a good idea to have as a secretary in my company? Just a random person?
15:35.09z00daxwhat sort of a company is it ?
15:35.31z00daxif you actually plan on getting work done, then someone effecient might be a good idea
15:36.00z00daxif you can find someone with $IQ > Room Temp - thats a bonus
15:36.45morsingz00dax: Huh? I think you misunderstood.
15:37.10morsingThis is the secretary for registering a limited company
15:37.36z00daxyou mean a company secretary, not a secretary for a company
15:37.55z00daxin most cases, you dont really care - have you accountants use whoever they usually do
15:37.56morsingYes
15:38.26morsingSo the accountant company will take care of it? But I have to appoint someone when I register the company
15:38.51z00daxiirc, the accounting firm will do that for you
15:39.04z00daxthey usually charge something, and use one of their own people
15:39.11z00daxso you dont need to mess around with such stuff
15:39.37z00daxi suppose, when you have more than a few people working in the company it might be a good idea to nominate the finance manager or a director as a CS
15:39.51z00daxbut till that time, I'd recommend you just use the accountants firm to manage such hassle
16:03.51morsingz00dax: Could you be secondary NS and MX for aixperts.co.uk please?
16:06.22z00daxif you want me to be, yes
16:06.50z00daxyou are going into the Artificial Intelligence Biz ?
16:07.41z00daxemail me the zone's or the IP from where you want me to pull the zone
16:15.23morsing195.10.223.76 is the SOA
16:15.41morsingWhat's your IP?
16:16.17antiphaseThat's a funny looking SOA
16:16.20z00dax72.36.200.42
16:18.35z00daxoff to get some fresh air now, be back later
16:21.26adminjs<PROTECTED>
16:27.03antiphaseThere's a bar in Leicester Square that sells it in cans
16:33.23adminjsi prefer the ice from Baskin & Robbins
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17:23.31trousers_z00dax: Nx is quite slick.
17:31.39trousers_Is there a free nx server for Windows?
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17:47.21masahi
17:48.34masai'm looking for internet line in london. which company is best? bulldog is ok?
17:51.11z00daxbulldog is by far the worst internet services company around >
17:51.14z00dax<opinion>
17:51.32z00daxtrousers_: it is
17:51.54masawhich company do you recommend?
17:53.56adminjslixxus
17:55.14masahmm, i never heard the company. ok, im looking at web page
17:57.06masai'm not sure about uk telephone/internet thing. do i need to contract phone company and internet company?
17:57.40masaactually, i don't need phone (i have mobile of course)
17:59.34z00daxwell, i use plus.net and zen.co.uk at home, we have bt at work
17:59.57z00daxmaybe ntl or sky or orange, with one of their package deals will fit your needs better
18:00.23adminjsif you find one without phone tell me about it
18:00.43z00daxadminjs: cable ?
18:01.02adminjsok have no cable
18:03.28masaour company uses zen. but it's disconnected often.. especially early morning.
18:10.52z00daxhave you reported this to zen ?
18:12.13masayes, my colleague did. but it's still bad.
18:12.39masait happens before working hour. so, it's not serious for company for now.
18:12.44z00daxsounds like a problem on your phone line more than anything else
18:13.30z00daxare you sure its not the cleaner plugging his phone into a wall socket thats not behind the microfilter
18:15.03masayes. when it's happening, i tried many things.
18:15.30morsingNice
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18:17.17z00daxvery very slowly
18:17.25masahttp://www.plus.net/residential/broadband/broadband_plus.shtml this line seems  fit my needs.
18:17.36adminjswhat ae you downloading?
18:17.39masaanyway, thank you. i'll think more.
18:17.56masaand nice to meet you!
18:18.18adminjswho?
18:20.15z00daxadminjs: a torrent!
18:20.27z00daxadminjs: some media stuff, very popular from the sounds of things
18:20.52z00daxibot: adminjs
18:21.04z00daxibot: geo
18:21.13z00daxibot: ?
18:22.46adminjsmore specific
18:25.54trousers_z00dax: Any idea about a Windows NX server?
18:26.46z00daxtrousers_: yes, its called NX
18:27.01z00daxand it costs money, it also might need terminal server licenses for dinblows
18:27.07trousers_z00dax: :(
18:35.15morsingtrousers_!
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18:40.13masasorry, again.. http://www.lixxus.co.uk/products/home_user_broadband/369.asp?pid=204&tab=Compare
18:40.17masawhat is "Data included"?
18:40.28keithlard_ibot seen cope
18:40.51ibotcope <n=stephen@88.212.149.148> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2d 23h 24m 32s ago, saying: 'poke hali'.
18:53.42trousers_morsing!
18:57.06morsingLeeds!
18:57.19morsingtrousers_: I love you
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19:09.19morsingkeithlard_: I love you too
19:09.47morsing<PROTECTED>
19:10.30morsingOk, who can make me a simple website promoting my new one-man company?
19:11.33antiphaseI'd hope you could do it yourself
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19:13.14morsingantiphase: I can't. Tried to make a simple website for about 9 years now and I'm no good at it I'm afraid
19:13.23morsingLondo!
19:13.50Londomorsing!
19:13.53morsing:)
19:14.01antiphaseWho's going to employ you as a UNIX expert if you can't do a simple web page? ;)
19:15.10LondoYou probably get more kudos points the uglier the page looks
19:15.18z00daxmorsing: hire someone on rent-a-coder
19:15.52morsingantiphase: As long as they don't employ me as a web-developer I think I'll be safe
19:16.12goibhniumorsing: "save as html"
19:16.13morsingantiphase: So you can do it for me then?
19:16.19morsinggoibhniu: You suck!
19:17.49antiphaseI already have a job
19:18.37goibhniumorsing: you just need a page with your business details ... no more
19:18.39morsingantiphase: So you can't spare 30 minutes for some extra cash?
19:18.48morsinggoibhniu: Exactly. How to do?
19:19.06morsingI *suck* at web-design!
19:19.16goibhniumorsing: you don't need design ... less is more
19:19.21morsingI've heard CSS is in these days?
19:19.31morsinggoibhniu: And that's the design!
19:19.37goibhniuput it in a box and centre it if you really want to be flashy
19:19.38antiphasetbh it's one of those things that I'd do for myself, but never try and sell because I'm not that good at it. That doesn't alter the fact that I could manage myself with a little bit of application though ;)
19:19.54morsingDon't even need an application
19:20.05morsinggoibhniu: Hmm...
19:20.32goibhniumorsing: you don't even need it to come up in search results
19:21.00goibhniumorsing: the worst thing you could do is to try to make something impressive
19:21.02morsingI know.
19:21.31goibhniuyou want a website with your contact and business details on it and enough for someone to recognise it as you
19:21.50goibhniumorsing: I'll do it for you
19:22.30morsing:)
19:23.08goibhniumorsing: or I can tell you what to do in 2 minutes step by step with mozilla
19:23.48morsingOhh... I don't want to use a tool. They mess up the html code
19:23.51goibhniumorsing: don't you have a website with pictures that murb owns?
19:24.03morsingHuh?
19:24.09morsingNot that I'm aware of :)
19:24.21goibhniumorsing will I give you a template here?
19:24.27morsingMy own website is http://www.morsing.cc/
19:24.35morsingTemplate?
19:25.17goibhniu<html><body><h1>Henrik is professional</h1><p>call me for good time</p></body></html>
19:25.50morsingErmmm... I might attract the wrong costumers with that :P
19:28.16goibhniumorsing: you're legally obliged to have your company number in the <p> bit
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19:28.56z00daxmaybe i should give up on that torrent
19:31.28antiphaseJust leave it going for a few days
19:31.28goibhniumorsing: "You don't have permission to access /Personal/Me/ on this server."
19:33.19morsingNice
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20:27.36serrishi all
20:28.19morsingserris!
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20:30.05serris_hi again..
20:30.54morsingWell done
20:31.10serris_I know
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