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| 06:56.45 | morsing | Hi Leeds |
| 06:56.52 | morsing | Can someone help me please |
| 06:57.06 | Leeds | I think you need more help than we can give here |
| 06:57.11 | morsing | I can't umount /tmp even though lsof and fuser don't show any users |
| 06:57.23 | morsing | But umount says it's busy |
| 06:57.29 | morsing | How do I find out why? |
| 06:57.54 | morsing | Please, please be a bit serious, I have 30 minutes to complete this work |
| 06:58.24 | morsing | Anyone? Leeds? |
| 06:58.43 | Leeds | dunno, really |
| 06:58.54 | morsing | :( |
| 08:03.51 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 08:48.08 | Leeds | so... I'm still impressed by this... |
| 08:48.41 | morsing | Really...? |
| 08:48.46 | Leeds | went to get some shirts this morning... |
| 08:49.22 | Leeds | came out at just over £95 for 4 shirts - so about £24 each... |
| 08:50.03 | Leeds | I think that's a pretty reasonable price for tailored shirts, made-to-fit in my choice of style with my choice of fabric, from one of the most famous tailors in HK |
| 08:50.28 | morsing | Nice |
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| 08:53.56 | Leeds | the only downside, really, is that they take a few days to arrive... order Friday morning, pick up Wednesday evening |
| 08:55.17 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 08:55.25 | morsing | Bugger |
| 08:55.42 | morsing | Will you be naked for two days then? |
| 08:57.21 | Leeds | uh, no |
| 08:57.40 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 09:20.48 | Leeds | also, I have tickets for the Rugby Sevens... and I appear to be part of a team (not a playing team, of course) being sponsored by a local bar/restaurant group to wear a silly costume with their logo on it - and drink their beer! |
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| 09:31.50 | z00dax- | Moin |
| 09:38.46 | hali | mornin' |
| 09:39.44 | morsing | hali! |
| 09:39.53 | morsing | z00dax: Leeds is naked |
| 09:44.01 | bilarh_ | morsing: you hacked his web cam again? |
| 09:44.17 | bilarh_ | i *told* you to stop that after i caught you spying on me |
| 09:47.32 | bilarh_ | hali: point it towards that secretary :P |
| 09:49.17 | hali | the bisexual girl? :) |
| 09:49.18 | hali | sure |
| 09:49.22 | hali | she's lovely |
| 09:49.28 | bilarh_ | hali: cheers! |
| 09:50.07 | hali | an damn my starbucks coffee sucks today |
| 09:50.12 | hali | some n00b must have made it |
| 09:50.14 | hali | tastes weird |
| 09:50.23 | hali | burnt and to mily |
| 09:50.25 | hali | milky* |
| 09:50.55 | bilarh_ | well, the burnt bit must be the beans, surely |
| 09:51.20 | bilarh_ | although it could have been some noob roasting them as well, i guess |
| 09:52.14 | morsing | hali: It's Starbucks - Go to Caost |
| 09:52.15 | morsing | Costa |
| 09:52.30 | bilarh_ | i actually prefer the starbucks coffee |
| 09:52.40 | bilarh_ | and let's not even go down the nero alley |
| 09:53.00 | bilarh_ | nero is horrible, i don't understand what they do to their coffee, but it always has a tinge of vomit to it |
| 09:53.07 | bilarh_ | ok, the last part was made up, but it's usually disgusting! |
| 09:53.55 | bilarh_ | calling all XML guru's: |
| 09:54.06 | bilarh_ | if I have a piece of XML specified like this: |
| 09:54.07 | bilarh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.07 | bilarh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.07 | bilarh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.07 | bilarh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.08 | hali | i prefer starbucks over costa as well |
| 09:54.15 | hali | bilarh_: pastebin!!11one |
| 09:54.23 | bilarh_ | it was only four lines, that's allowed :) |
| 09:54.59 | bilarh_ | can I also specify <new_tag name="connection-url" value="MY NEW VALUE" /> ? |
| 09:55.07 | bilarh_ | i.e. does that mean the same thing? |
| 09:56.04 | hali | not in most parsers |
| 09:56.21 | bilarh_ | but would it mean the same thing in XML? |
| 09:56.38 | bilarh_ | e.g. would XML::Simple understand it? :) |
| 09:56.43 | hali | not sure about xml::simple |
| 09:56.51 | hali | most parsers prefix attributes with an @ |
| 09:56.54 | hali | the first one is i.e. /new_tag/name/value |
| 09:56.54 | bilarh_ | but, semantically, it's the same, right? |
| 09:57.15 | hali | and the attribute version /new_tag/@name |
| 09:57.40 | hali | at least in xerces/crimsom style and in oracle |
| 09:57.54 | hali | but i would guess that xml::simple threats them the same .. at least without any dtd's |
| 09:58.09 | bilarh_ | crappola |
| 09:58.18 | hali | but it should be easy to test? |
| 09:58.31 | bilarh_ | yeah i know, i just can't be arsed to rewrite my code :P |
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| 09:59.04 | hali | it's easy to test in oracle :) |
| 09:59.18 | hali | oracle's got a nice heavily standardized xml engine |
| 09:59.38 | bilarh_ | i'm gonna stab you next time I see you :) |
| 09:59.52 | hali | people should use oracle more :) |
| 10:00.14 | bilarh_ | until it's open sourced, i wont use it |
| 10:00.27 | hali | parts of it is opensource |
| 10:00.36 | hali | mostly linux related storage bits |
| 10:00.46 | bilarh_ | once all of it is open source and i'm FREE to use it and modify it, i'll use it |
| 10:00.58 | bilarh_ | and i don't mean free as in beer |
| 10:00.58 | hali | fine |
| 10:01.10 | morsing | Nice |
| 10:01.22 | bilarh_ | morsing: you still spying on leeds? |
| 10:01.58 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:02.04 | morsing | Or stalking... |
| 10:02.52 | bilarh_ | i'm getting worried when first you say he's naked, and then you say 'Nice' :) |
| 10:03.12 | bilarh_ | have you given councelling any thought? |
| 10:03.31 | hali | nothing wrong with a bit of man-man love |
| 10:03.51 | bilarh_ | true, just don't ram it down my throat |
| 10:03.54 | bilarh_ | har har :P |
| 10:04.03 | hali | you like it |
| 10:06.47 | morsing | bilarh_: I have |
| 10:07.05 | morsing | I love Leeds, nothing wrong with that |
| 10:07.40 | bilarh_ | we all love leeds, but he's got jasmine now :( |
| 10:07.49 | Leeds | not yet... |
| 10:08.02 | bilarh_ | ... on his mind :) |
| 10:08.27 | Leeds | indeed |
| 10:09.01 | bilarh_ | leeds: why don't you just give me a job in HK instead? :) |
| 10:09.16 | Leeds | if I had a spare one, you'd be welcome to it |
| 10:09.24 | bilarh_ | :( |
| 10:09.30 | bilarh_ | you don't love me anymore :( |
| 10:11.45 | bilarh_ | arse, xml::simple doesn't understand the new improved XML code :( |
| 10:11.55 | bilarh_ | maybe it's not valid |
| 10:18.15 | Leeds | hey, I don't even have 1 job here for myself... just part of one |
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| 10:31.43 | morsing | Provito! |
| 10:37.48 | goibhniu | http://www.oooms.nl/usb/ ... wooden usb memory sticks |
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| 10:46.03 | morsing | huw-l! |
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| 11:30.43 | clive-h | Good morning |
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| 12:41.45 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 12:42.36 | Leeds | sushi! |
| 12:52.27 | morsing | Beer |
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| 13:22.10 | morsing | benoit! |
| 13:30.03 | morsing | http://blog.mediacatalyst.com/images/seriousbusiness.jpg |
| 13:46.31 | bilarh | cpufreak: this may amuse you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMTcrZpMFI |
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| 13:54.57 | morsing | tripitaka! |
| 13:55.00 | morsing | ping Leeds |
| 13:55.05 | tripitaka | hello |
| 13:57.34 | morsing | Nice |
| 14:02.19 | cpufreak | bilarh: if thats the BMW spinnning off at the nurburgring |
| 14:02.21 | cpufreak | I've seen it |
| 14:02.52 | cpufreak | ah so it is |
| 14:06.18 | bilarh | ah yes :) |
| 14:06.23 | morsing | uptime |
| 14:08.19 | antiphase | Northern monkeys |
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| 15:37.08 | morsing | murb! |
| 15:37.16 | morsing | zzz |
| 15:55.48 | hali | hm, if i need to get 3 racks in central london... where do you guys suggest i go? |
| 15:55.55 | hali | redbus is out, level3 is out, easynet is out |
| 15:59.11 | cpufreak | does telecity harbour exchange count as redbus? |
| 15:59.15 | cpufreak | as its pretty swish |
| 15:59.21 | hali | yep |
| 15:59.25 | cpufreak | otherwise, if you can cope with southampton |
| 15:59.26 | hali | redbus/telecity is the same |
| 15:59.32 | hali | we have a cage in harbour exchange already |
| 15:59.34 | cpufreak | mate has a 12000sqft datacentre in there |
| 15:59.35 | hali | and in sov |
| 15:59.42 | cpufreak | which harbour exchange? |
| 15:59.51 | hali | not sure |
| 15:59.55 | cpufreak | 6/7 (i.e. redbus hex), or 8/9 (telcity london 2) |
| 15:59.58 | hali | i've never even been there :) |
| 16:00.35 | hali | globix looks cool but i have a feeling it's a tad to expensive |
| 16:00.49 | cpufreak | global switch is alright |
| 16:00.54 | cpufreak | telehouse is basically full |
| 16:01.01 | cpufreak | there is no where else. |
| 16:03.20 | hali | interxion seems worth a visit |
| 16:08.27 | cpufreak | we just bought a floor there |
| 16:08.29 | cpufreak | its nasty |
| 16:10.42 | hali | reliable? |
| 16:11.06 | hali | i wouldn't mind getting another cage in level3, but after the power outage they had the PHB's want somewhere else |
| 16:11.21 | cpufreak | what you want is a datacentre out of town |
| 16:11.29 | cpufreak | incase london gets nuked |
| 16:11.38 | cpufreak | as I said a mate has a DC in soton |
| 16:11.44 | hali | if london gets nuked we don't have any clients anyway :) |
| 16:12.46 | phearless | hi gllug !!!!!!! |
| 16:16.58 | phearless | hi hali, I moved this WE not far from you |
| 16:17.42 | clive-h | Another L3 outage |
| 16:17.57 | clive-h | what a suprise |
| 16:18.22 | hali | phearless: cool, e1? |
| 16:18.33 | phearless | yes, E1 |
| 16:18.41 | hali | clive-h: i was refering to the one about 8 months ago... we've had rock solid service after that |
| 16:18.54 | phearless | hali: Ellen St |
| 16:19.08 | clive-h | I had 3 outages at L3 in 15 months |
| 16:19.18 | clive-h | I'd never host there again |
| 16:19.30 | hali | phearless: oh yes, thats just a few hundred feet from me |
| 16:22.12 | phearless | hali: you are in Leman St if I well remember? |
| 16:22.54 | hali | phearless: even closer, conant mews.. just off backchurch ln |
| 16:23.46 | phearless | okay I see |
| 16:24.15 | phearless | hali: to which food shops do you go ? |
| 16:24.33 | phearless | hali: I go sometimes to whitechapel sainsbury but it is a bit far |
| 16:25.11 | hali | phearless: there is a waitrose just across the highway |
| 16:25.15 | hali | phearless: down towards wapping |
| 16:25.33 | hali | or i usually grab the tesco outside bank st |
| 16:25.38 | phearless | hali: yes the waitrose, I forgot this one |
| 16:25.57 | phearless | hali: bank st ? |
| 16:26.00 | hali | bank station |
| 16:26.28 | phearless | okay |
| 16:26.29 | hali | there is an 'island' on whitechapel high st as well... if you feel despearate sometime :) |
| 16:26.36 | hali | or is it iceland? |
| 16:26.38 | phearless | iceland ? |
| 16:26.40 | phearless | yes |
| 16:26.44 | phearless | ok |
| 16:26.46 | hali | i'm not sure, some pikey supermarket :) |
| 16:29.09 | phearless | what is pikey ? |
| 16:30.04 | hali | phearless: used to be slang for irish travaler, now it's more slang for dirty, cheap weird people |
| 16:30.15 | hali | it's quite rude :) |
| 16:30.16 | phearless | hehe okay |
| 16:30.35 | phearless | have you tried all the very small local (muslims) shops ? |
| 16:30.42 | phearless | there are many |
| 16:30.44 | hali | not many of them no |
| 16:30.51 | phearless | I should have a look... |
| 16:31.02 | hali | i used to use a few on brick lane when i worked there |
| 16:32.54 | hali | but i can't say im a fan of them |
| 16:33.03 | phearless | expensive? |
| 16:33.07 | phearless | no choice? |
| 16:33.10 | hali | the quality varies |
| 16:33.11 | hali | one gets spoined when shopping in waitrose |
| 16:33.15 | hali | spoiled* |
| 16:35.10 | phearless | what has been spoiled? |
| 16:35.31 | hali | the quaility in waitrose is always excellent |
| 16:35.37 | murb | spoiled veg? |
| 16:35.45 | murb | oh the johnlewis cult. |
| 16:36.09 | hali | i haven't been to john lewis in years now, but i do like the waitrose food |
| 16:36.16 | hali | and it's my closest supermarket |
| 16:36.18 | clive-h | waitrose do nice food |
| 16:36.31 | clive-h | They're part of the john lewis group |
| 16:37.18 | phearless | waitrose products seems to be very expensive |
| 16:37.23 | phearless | but I may be wrong |
| 16:37.36 | phearless | but it looked more expensive than other shops, for the same things |
| 16:38.05 | hali | some things cost a bit more yes |
| 16:38.21 | hali | generally food is slightly more expensive but is extremly good value |
| 16:38.28 | hali | but stuff like bin bags are damn expensive |
| 16:39.18 | hali | the meat in waitrose is always top quality |
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| 16:46.35 | phearless | ok hali |
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| 17:05.35 | Leeds | morning all |
| 17:06.00 | boudiccas | morning Leeds |
| 17:09.05 | Leeds | how is everyone's Friday going? |
| 17:10.39 | boudiccas | finished work for the day, now i've got a long w/e to look forward to :) |
| 17:10.49 | Leeds | long weekend? |
| 17:11.02 | boudiccas | yes, i've got monday off |
| 17:11.08 | Leeds | nice |
| 17:11.10 | clive-h | yay |
| 17:11.42 | Leeds | I was wondering if I was out of the loop enough to have forgotten a bank holiday ;-) |
| 17:11.42 | clive-h | three day weekend++ |
| 17:11.53 | Leeds | Easter here is a 5-day-weekend this year |
| 17:11.54 | clive-h | next bank holiday is a way off |
| 17:12.06 | boudiccas | i think that the next b/h is april 6th, Good Friday |
| 17:12.12 | clive-h | it's a 4 day jobby |
| 17:12.19 | Leeds | there's a Chinese holiday on the 5th... |
| 17:14.28 | wethrin | Hello |
| 17:14.50 | boudiccas | hello wethrin |
| 17:15.15 | clive-h | I might even make yhe next gllug event |
| 17:15.41 | wethrin | z00dax: ping? |
| 17:15.50 | clive-h | Though I'd need to be out shortly after |
| 17:16.00 | clive-h | as I need to be in soton |
| 17:16.02 | hali | bilarh: on the beer tonight? |
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| 17:37.33 | z00dax | wethrin: hi |
| 17:41.09 | wethrin | Aha. |
| 17:41.22 | wethrin | We should probably announce the meeting |
| 17:42.24 | wethrin | Although I haven't got any proper response from Steve yet |
| 17:47.43 | Cope | me? |
| 17:49.13 | wethrin | Steve McIntyre |
| 17:49.18 | wethrin | Unless you fancy giving a Gllug talk? |
| 17:52.42 | murb | ask him on the chat? |
| 17:53.47 | wethrin | I'm not on any IRC channels he's on |
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| 17:55.19 | z00dax | wethrin: awrite cool - I shall add something to the blog today and send a pinger to gllug-announce |
| 17:55.47 | wethrin | Cheers. And to main Gllug list if you can - I'll be out most of the evening, starting from about a minute ago |
| 17:57.15 | wethrin | ~pdr |
| 17:57.23 | ibot | somebody said pdr was not trustworthy when it comes to beer, or the physicians desk reference |
| 18:01.35 | Leeds | uh... |
| 18:01.46 | Leeds | ibot pdr is also a fine chap |
| 18:01.50 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
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| 21:19.25 | z00dax_train | Hello |
| 21:19.38 | boudiccas | hello |
| 21:20.10 | boudiccas | you been affected by the fire at side of the railtrack and the gas cyclinder? |
| 21:20.17 | z00dax_train | Hey, got the c5b yet ? Or holding out for the final? |
| 21:20.28 | boudiccas | holding out for the final :) |
| 21:20.35 | z00dax_train | Ugh ? What fire ? Where was this ? |
| 21:21.01 | z00dax_train | Am on the train from london bridge, going to bexley |
| 21:21.07 | boudiccas | affecting railway between waterloo and clapham [i think] |
| 21:21.31 | boudiccas | its shut down eurostar for 24 hours |
| 21:21.46 | z00dax_train | Phew, wrong direction! Or well, right direction. |
| 21:22.32 | boudiccas | i'm just glad i wasn't up in the smoke today, it will have badly affected trains into kent |
| 21:23.07 | z00dax_train | Only to your part of kent :) not my side |
| 21:23.13 | boudiccas | :) |
| 21:23.35 | z00dax_train | The dover ramsgate line seems fine, or i hope it is |
| 21:23.50 | boudiccas | and they've found that ashford isn't an alternative station to waterloo for eurostar |
| 21:24.22 | clive-h | bexley! |
| 21:24.28 | boudiccas | perhaps you go on a line that misses the fire station |
| 21:24.36 | boudiccas | *fire situation |
| 21:25.07 | clive-h | my station is the next one down |
| 21:25.09 | z00dax_train | I am on the london bridge going east line... Not south east, i presume thats the line with problems |
| 21:25.24 | boudiccas | yes, i guess it is |
| 21:25.34 | z00dax_train | clive-h dartford ? |
| 21:27.09 | clive-h | next station is crayford actually |
| 21:27.10 | boudiccas | z00dax; are you free on 13-4-07 for a maidstone social meeting? |
| 21:27.10 | z00dax_train | Ah, yes it is. Are you in crayford ? |
| 21:27.11 | clive-h | yeah |
| 21:27.12 | z00dax_train | Hummm 13th should be. Not sure why it rings a bell |
| 21:27.18 | boudiccas | friday 13th :) |
| 21:27.20 | clive-h | i live in station road |
| 21:27.33 | z00dax_train | clive-h, i am just up the road from you :) |
| 21:27.46 | clive-h | spooky |
| 21:27.59 | z00dax_train | Am not on station road |
| 21:28.24 | clive-h | chastilian? |
| 21:28.47 | z00dax_train | Umm no, am off princess road |
| 21:29.03 | clive-h | ahh right |
| 21:29.16 | clive-h | the posh bit |
| 21:29.36 | z00dax_train | Bou: cant do 13th, am in the city that evening |
| 21:29.44 | boudiccas | k, fiar enough |
| 21:29.48 | boudiccas | *fair |
| 21:30.00 | boudiccas | sorry for the typos, i'm kanckered |
| 21:30.07 | boudiccas | *knackered |
| 21:30.38 | z00dax_train | Cli: surely an improvement over temple hill, where i lived for over 2 yrs |
| 21:31.03 | clive-h | I know Temple Hill well enough |
| 21:31.33 | clive-h | It's chav infested these days |
| 21:32.11 | z00dax_train | Yea, was quite a shock to the system when i moved there from London Bridge |
| 21:32.38 | clive-h | Yes that would be a shock |
| 21:35.54 | clive-h | The lineside fire won't have affected anything out Waterloo East |
| 21:36.01 | z00dax_train | Ok, trai at new eltham. Should be there soon |
| 21:36.41 | clive-h | That's about 10 mins from here |
| 21:44.10 | z00dax_train | Right thats me |
| 22:00.43 | cpufreak | bbc2 now |
| 22:36.27 | *** join/#gllug bilarh_ (n=henrik@82-68-33-30.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 23:16.42 | morsing | 'morning |
| 23:24.21 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 23:36.04 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 23:43.30 | wethrin | morsing: pong? |
| 23:47.03 | morsing | wethrin: Just woke up after 8h sleep :( Not good |
| 23:47.10 | wethrin | that tired? |
| 23:47.13 | morsing | Can you entertain me all night? |
| 23:47.17 | morsing | wethrin: Yes... |
| 23:47.42 | morsing | I feel a lot of cleaning coming up over night |
| 23:47.53 | morsing | What are you up to? |
| 23:48.21 | wethrin | Nope....I'm about to head to sleep |
| 23:48.35 | wethrin | Although wondering about sending Gllug announcements out |
| 23:49.17 | morsing | Nice |
| 23:55.09 | wethrin | morsing: Should I send the announcement? |
| 23:55.41 | morsing | Yes |
| 23:59.15 | wethrin | okay |
| 23:59.38 | *** join/#gllug jon_n (n=jonn@82-43-61-7.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:59.44 | morsing | jon_n! |
