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00:17.11wethrinz00dax: around?
00:17.49wethrinany regular GGllug meeting attendees?
00:19.22rhowehttp://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/img_1560-splashsplash.jpg
00:19.57wethrinrhowe!
00:20.02wethrinYou're a good fellow as any!
00:21.40wethrinWe appear to have an extra speaker for Gllug - would it be reasonable to send another message to the lists saying we've got an additional person?
00:41.45rhoweYou mean to say there will be n+1 talks instead of n?
00:42.02rhowe(sorry, desktop was swapping like crazy and had to reset it)
00:42.46wethrinrhowe: Yes
00:45.22rhowewethrin: Sounds reasonable to me
00:45.32wethrinExcellent
00:45.33rhoweEspecially if it's a talk which is likely to rouse extra interest
00:45.39wethrinI suspect it might
00:45.42rhoweor it affects timing
00:45.48wethrinIt's Steve McIntyre, who's currently Debian #2
00:45.56rhowewhat's the date?
00:46.00wethrinNext Saturday
00:46.01wethrin24th
00:46.06rhoweI'm in Thailand
00:46.13wethrinfiend!
01:10.33rhowehttp://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/img_1564-sodden.jpg
01:11.59wethrincaught in the rain?
01:13.47Leedsmorning rhowe :-)
01:15.12rhowemornin' :)
01:15.17rhowewethrin: She had a bath
01:15.35wethrinWithout booking anything, it'd probably have to be the Green Man
01:15.55rhoweGreen Man's definitely back open
01:16.01rhoweWalked past it not too long ago
01:17.36wethrinAs long as they don't run out of beer :)
01:17.50rhoweheh
01:18.06rhoweThere's a nice place called the Ship, but it won't fit many people
01:18.13wethrinI liked the pub we went to last time - the one just around the corner
01:18.19wethrinBut that needed booking
01:18.45wethrinI suppose I could phone up and book, but that seems awfully organised, even for me
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05:05.15rhoweibot change 15000 thb to gbp
05:05.46rhowehmm
05:06.31Leedsrhowe: (et al) for the record, it's pretty unlikely that there'll be two people sleeping here by the time you come, since I got a pretty firm "just friends" last night
05:09.36rhoweLeeds: Ah
05:09.46rhoweFirm and perky?
05:13.14Leedsuh, no
07:00.21Copehello rhowe
07:24.52morsingCope!
07:24.53morsingrhowe!
07:24.58Copehello
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09:23.11morsinggoibhniu!
09:25.37goibhniumorsing! are you having octopus in a jar of oil for breakfast?
09:26.24Copeibot seen z00dax
09:26.51ibotz00dax is currently on #gllug (3d 5h 46m 14s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1d 15h 31m 32s, last said: 'wethrin: awrite cool - I shall add something to the blog today and send a pinger to gllug-announce'.
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10:23.07morsingsabinef72!
10:23.29sabinef72morsing !
10:24.04sabinef72did the picture please to you ?
10:29.21morsingYes :)
10:31.53sabinef72it's amazing, isn't it ?
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10:57.08mumpererHi all :)
11:04.56morsingsabinef72: It is :)
11:04.59morsingmumperer!
11:11.24mumpererOooh - dozed off - now then, Hi morsing :-P
11:11.32rhowehey Henrik
11:14.12wethrinhi
11:32.23rhowehttp://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/img_1628-keyfly.jpg
11:38.17wethrin:)
12:00.09Leedsrhowe: any more thoughts on your end-of-month movements?
12:01.51rhoweLeeds: I have flight numbers and times
12:02.38LeedsI think they would qualify as thoughts then :-)
12:03.31morsingrhowe!
12:03.35morsingwethrin!
12:03.59wethrin:)
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12:05.10morsing?
12:06.00wethrin12:05 -!- mode/#gllug [+o morsing] by ChanServ
12:06.33morsingI don't get it
12:07.12*** mode/#gllug [-o morsing] by morsing
12:24.19rhoweLeeds: Arrive 1745 on the 3rd April, flight CZ3456 from Chongqing
12:24.27rhoweLeeds: However, that arrives in Shenzhen :)
12:24.40rhoweLeeds: So I'll be finding out how to get from Shenzhen to HK soon after that
12:24.42Leedsoops, wrong, uh, political entity
12:24.44Leedsthere are busses
12:24.49rhoweYeah
12:25.05rhoweWe're doing .hk -> Shenzhen on the way out, so I'll have done the trip once in reverse anyway
12:26.16Leedsanyway, so you'll be arriving in HK on the Tuesday evening...
12:26.31LeedsI should be working on Wednesday, but probably not Thursday or Friday
12:26.40Leedsoh, shit
12:27.35Leedshmm...
12:27.51LeedsI'm going to - hopefully - be busy on Tuesday night, until relatively late
12:28.23Leedsand that week is passover... so I'm going to be rather limited in terms of eating out type stuff
12:32.27rhoweOh well
12:32.37rhoweI'm sure I can entertain myself on Tuesday night
12:32.46Leedsis there anything you feel a particular need to do while you're here?
12:33.13Leedspeople to see, places to go?
12:33.33rhoweWell there are definitely people to see, although whether they'll be too busy working, I dunno
12:33.56LeedsThursday/Friday are public hols, so anyone in office/clerical-type work will probably be off
12:34.05rhoweoh cool
12:34.12rhoweThat's pretty convenient :)
12:34.25LeedsThursday is Ching Ming, Friday/Saturday/Monday are Easter... it's a 5-day weekend :-D
12:34.28rhoweThen again, they might be going on holiday or doing family stuff
12:38.20Leedstrue
12:39.30rhowehey Henrik
12:40.05morsingHail?!
12:40.18rhoweHail?
12:41.01morsingAnd my accountant has applied for registering my new company :)
12:41.09morsingSo many good things happening since Carly left...
12:41.22rhowemorsing: danedate.co.uk?
12:41.40morsingThat's a domain, not a company name
12:41.50morsingrhowe: http://www.aixperts.co.uk/
12:43.22rhowemorsing: Ah. What does the s in xperts signify?
12:43.38rhoweThere's more than one Morsing? Scary prospect
12:44.18morsingrhowe: No - still just me
12:44.27antiphaseSurely over 8 years of experience is 9 or some other number of years experience
12:44.32morsingExpanding rapidly though
12:44.38boudiccasmorsing; suggestion. put the year that you gained the qualification in by the relevant qualification. it helps to show how uptodate your qualifications are
12:44.39morsing8.2
12:45.12morsingboudiccas: Well, those are only the recent ones, older ones are far apart and outdated
12:45.16morsingrhowe: Thanks
12:45.40morsingboudiccas: All the ones on there were done since December
13:00.09murbor 1 years worth of experience * 8
13:02.18morsingmurb: You suck
13:29.12boudiccasnah, todays a goofin off day. tomorrows the day for doing useful stuff :)
13:29.40boudiccasi'm trying to flush my swap file by cd /sbin and then sudo ./swapoff -a but its not working. any ideas please?
13:31.26wethrinWhy're you doing that?
13:31.26antiphaseFlush your swap file?
13:31.39boudiccasbecause if not it adversely affects the screen redrawing when i go to a new screen
13:31.51wethrinYou've got other troubles....
13:32.15boudiccasantiphase; yes. you flush a toilet to get rid of crap [literally] same reason i want to flush my swap file
13:32.41antiphaseNonsense
13:32.50antiphaseYour computer isn't a toilet
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13:47.18clive-hThere used to be flush command way back in 2.0 days
13:47.23clive-hbe a
13:48.13clive-hwhich used the bdflush call
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16:32.02morsingclive-h!
16:32.09morsingAnyone here installed Ubuntu?
16:33.56clive-hHi morsing
16:34.01goibhniumorsing ... you never answered my question
16:34.09morsinggoibhniu: What question?
16:34.13clive-hNot me , I'm a Fedora/RHEL/Centos person
16:34.28goibhniumorsing: about the octopus ... I run a couple of ubuntu boxes
16:34.42morsingI'm at the assign partitions part in the install but it keeps telling me I haven't assigned a / partition even though I have
16:34.50morsingOctopus?
16:35.28goibhniumorsing: drat ... I don't really know what happens there, it won't let you use existing partitions or something?
16:36.08goibhniuoh .. ok ... it thinks you haven't got an /
16:36.30Leedsmorsing: you may - or may not - find #ubuntu a more productive place to ask
16:36.41goibhniumorsing: I usually click all the buttons until something works
16:36.51antiphaseThe Ubuntu installer is a bit flakey if you mess it about. Best to start again probably
16:36.59*** mode/#gllug [+o morsing] by ChanServ
16:37.07*** kick/#gllug [Leeds!i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc] by morsing (morsing)
16:37.13*** mode/#gllug [-o morsing] by morsing
16:37.24antiphaseSometimes it gets in a broken state if you try and do the same thing a few times
16:38.52goibhniuLeeds can be *so* cheeky sometimes!
16:39.34morsinggoibhniu: I know. It was revenge though - he kicked me for nothing yesterday
16:40.47morsingWhere did I put my floor cleaning remedy?
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16:54.44wethrinYou want to remedy your floor cleaning?
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17:05.12morsingchr1s!
17:06.14wethrinQuite far
17:14.20wethrinthere wasn't really a need to kick him...
17:18.59morsingwethrin: There wasn't a need for him to kick me yesterday. Check the logs!
17:20.56morsinghttp://purl.rikers.org/%23gllug/20070317.html.gz
17:20.59morsingAt 6:44
17:23.40morsingFair?
17:26.20goibhniumorsing: you were only being friendly
17:27.06goibhniumorsing: do you sleep 15 minutes each hour or something?
17:27.42boudiccasno, he goes on recharge
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18:04.49morsinggoibhniu: I regenerate 8 minutes per hour. That's why I never sleep
18:05.40morsingmozrat!
18:07.09morsinggoibhniu: Gnucash
18:08.17goibhniumorsing: yes ... very gnucash
18:08.26morsingJust installed it
18:10.42morsingMan, it will take a while to set that up...
18:10.45morsingping mozrat
18:16.16mozratpong!
18:16.26morsingmozrat: How are you?
18:16.32morsingmozrat: My floors are clean
18:16.35mozratmorsing: not too bad thanks
18:16.40mozratmorsing: good to hear :-)
18:17.41morsingmozrat: And my new company is being registeret as we speak :)
18:18.05morsingAnd I believe I will be going to the next Gllug meet for the first time in two years :)
18:19.33mozratmorsing: good stuff :-)
18:19.42mozratI can't go on Sat as it's my daughters b-day party
18:20.41morsing:(
18:20.59morsingmozrat: What better birthday party than a Gllug meet? You gotta convince her
18:22.36mozratWell - she is going to be 10....
18:22.43mozratit might be a nice treat for her :-)
18:22.58morsingI think she'd like it
18:23.20morsingCope brought William if I remember correctly. Not for his b'day though
18:23.38mozratI was there for that one
18:23.51cpufreak\o/ productive day
18:23.51cpufreakhttp://photo.ing.me.uk/carwash?page=1
18:24.03Copemozrat: !!!
18:24.12mozratCope!!!
18:24.16mozrathello matey :-)
18:24.20Copeare you phoneable?
18:24.26mozratRight now?
18:24.33Copewant to talk, but am leaving house now to feed horse
18:24.35Copeyeah
18:24.44mozratSure - got for it...
18:24.50Copeusual number?
18:24.55mozratpm
18:25.09morsingcpufreak: E46?
18:25.24cpufreakr e46 csl
18:25.36morsing330?
18:25.39cpufreakno
18:25.40cpufreakm3 csl
18:25.48morsingAhh... To bad
18:25.53cpufreakwhy?
18:26.11morsingWill soon break and be expensive to fix :)
18:26.16cpufreaknah
18:26.20cpufreakits under warranty
18:41.23mozratbye everyone!
18:46.38morsingbye :(
19:12.06gw280MOZRAT
19:12.18morsingGEORGE
19:18.38gw280GO TO HELL
19:19.42morsingI'm here already, don't worry
19:20.13haliclassic comment, "so if you are here, who's running hell?" :)
19:20.57morsinghali: SL?
19:22.45haliVan Wilder as far as i know, but they have nicked it from somewhere as well
19:23.13morsingNo I meant SL is running hell
19:23.36haliwhos SL?
19:23.50halisverige järnvägar? :)
19:24.02morsingSecond Life. On-line chat thing. Sorry I've got a thing aagainst SL at the moment
19:24.15halidon't we all, second life is taking over .. i hate it
19:24.25morsingMmm...
19:24.32halii'm gonna get a second life account as soon as i sorted out my first life
19:24.38morsingRight...
19:24.54halicould take some time though
19:25.46goibhniuI took SL for a spin today for the first time ... it was fun alright
19:25.54morsingWas it?
19:26.04morsinggoibhniu: Where did you go?
19:26.40morsingWith a bit of luck we'll never see Leeds again....
19:26.48goibhniuthe noob zone ... actually I watched the gf jump into the lake and try to get the buddha to give some advice ... then she fell off the cliff
19:27.15goibhniumorsing: maybe he's here right now!
19:27.32morsingHe's not...
19:27.42morsingHuh? Noob zone?
19:28.22goibhniumorsing: wherever you get spawned
19:29.27morsingGod - I don't even remember. Some start place
19:29.33morsingGo to the Shelter
19:29.43goibhniumorsing: is that where hell is?
19:29.56morsingNo - SL itself is hell. For lost souls :(
19:30.33goibhniuok ... I didn't know you hung out there, if I make it back I'll ping you
19:31.04morsingI don't really. I'm trying to find someone. If I ever hang out though, the shelter is it
19:31.11wethrinroar
19:31.23morsingwethrin:
19:31.24morsing!
19:31.26morsingBeer
19:31.33wethrinmorsing!
19:31.40wethrinFood first
19:32.26gw280WETHRIN
19:32.49wethrinGW280
19:32.49morsingGEORGE
19:33.16wethrin!
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19:44.35morsingIAmAI!
19:50.42wethrinAnd tea!
19:51.18IAmAIHello
19:51.25IAmAIAnyone here know much Ruby>
19:59.38morsingNo
19:59.43morsingTea?
20:11.14wethrinmm....lamb steaks
20:21.54halimmm..cheese sandwich
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20:27.28gw280wethrin: LAMB!!!!!!
20:27.37gw280wethrin: I just ate roast beef with mint sauce and pretended it was lamb.
20:28.56wethrinWeird boy
20:29.00wethrinI didn't have any mint sauce :(
20:29.09wethrinI should've got some
20:29.11gw280wethrin: I'm not weird, and I'm not a boy
20:29.15gw280wethrin: I'm a small perl script
20:29.27morsingrhowe!
20:29.28wethrinHeh
20:29.32morsingGEORGE?!?
20:29.41gw280lalala
20:29.52gw280wethrin: *(£&%(*")&%£*&$£&%($£%"£%{}}{}{{{{}}}{"£%"$%"$}%{$%"$}%{}{
20:30.17gw280incidentally, anyone seen Cyclone?
20:30.21gw280and anyone willing to comment on it?
20:30.23gw280it looks funky
20:31.22morsingSucks
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20:40.54wethrinMmm....gcc
20:44.16rhowere
20:44.35wethrinrhowe!
20:46.37goibhniuany brecht experts here?
20:47.32goibhniuI heard a quote in a movie the other day and I can't remember it ... something like "es gibt kein geistliches Eigentum"
20:47.59goibhniu.. or what should mean something like "there is no intellectual property"
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20:52.24morsingadminjs!
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21:29.34serrisevening all
21:35.24adminjsevening
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22:57.58haliz00dax: yo, i know i've asked you before a few times, but what was that monitoring system you recommended a while back?
22:58.30halithe name sounded like a yougurt or something
23:02.36halizabbix i think
23:24.35rhoweibot change 2500 thb to gbp
23:36.06z00daxhali: zabbix ?
23:36.33wethrinz00dax!
23:36.54z00daxwethrin: !
23:37.00Kittyhey z00dax
23:37.03haliz00dax: yep, im playing with 1.3 beta now
23:37.18haliim kicking out an old crappy openview system
23:37.26wethrinz00dax: Got an email from sean about an rms talk
23:37.58z00daxthat could be good
23:38.18z00daxopenview, yes old is the right word
23:43.23halithey want nagios
23:43.30halibut i think im going to demo zabbix if i like it
23:43.54z00daxzabbix is to nagios, what puppet is to cfengine
23:44.03halias long as it's got good enough plugin support
23:44.15haliwhat vim is to emacs ;)
23:45.13halii think the phb's will like the fancy graphs
23:45.26halithey are even nicer than my (hacky) nagiosgraph extensions
23:45.52wethrinz00dax: But rms wants peopole to pay his way from Spain
23:46.06wethrinz00dax: What's your email address?
23:50.25antiphaseRMS is a beardy weirdo
23:52.43z00daxwethrin: my nickname at karan.org
23:53.13z00daxwethrin: how much is the coach fare from .es to .uk ?
23:54.01Kittyz00dax: not to much
23:54.04Kittycirca 70 quid
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23:55.26wethrinWell....
23:55.34z00daxKitty: you think he might be convinced to get the coach ?
23:55.46Kittydoubt it
23:55.53Kittyits over 24 hours!
23:55.55wethrinz00dax: You should have email
23:56.13wethrinSean was going to try and get him for the university
23:56.19z00daxok
23:56.28wethrinHe'd refuse to speak to Gllug on principle, because he's a damned hippy
23:56.35wethrinAnd we don't bend over to lick his arse
23:57.29z00daxwe dont bend, thats it. end of!
23:57.37wethrinIndeed

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