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00:00.24wethrinThis E450's a little loud, but not as loud as I thought it would be
00:01.05z00daxwhat are you doing with a E450 ?
00:01.25wethrinTurning it on
00:03.08wethrinOtherwise nothing at the momeng
00:06.08wethrin4GB memory so far...
00:06.25wethrinoh, only 4GB
00:06.37z00daxyou could seriously hurt someone with something like that
00:06.51wethrinI could run them over :)
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02:04.53*** topic/#gllug is Next GLLUG meeting Saturday 24th March, Westminster University - http://www.gllug.org.uk | http://planet.gllug.org.uk
03:57.40*** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@awork064052.netvigator.com)
06:02.29morsingLeeds!
06:07.22morsingLeeds: Thanks for the invitation
06:09.40morsingTextile industry? :)
06:11.51Leedswell, clothing, I suppose
06:13.18morsingAnyway, I can't really recommend you since I haven't worked with you...
06:13.36Leedshah
06:13.47morsingLeeds: Anything I need to ask at the interview today?
06:14.14Leedswhy don't you hire perm staff?
06:14.21Leedswhy the hell are you using AIX?
06:19.34morsingLeeds: Can you be serious?
06:19.40Leedsrarely
06:20.37morsingAnother thing: I thought an ltd company had to have at least one other shareholder than me?
06:20.43morsingBut I'm the only one
06:21.40LeedsI thought it did
06:22.08morsingNice
06:22.31morsingAnd according to my book, the company address must prominently display the full company name
06:22.43morsingWhich I don't intend to do...
06:22.47Leedsnot sure about that
06:23.03Leedsa lot of people use their accountants or homes as their official address
06:23.57morsingIndeed - so I have to hang a massive sign in my street... Not the best, I'm already unpopular
06:24.17Leedswhy are you unpopular?
06:24.20Leedsdid people meet you?
06:24.39morsingI stopped the bin-men from collecting the bins
06:24.51morsingGot anonymous notes and stuff
06:24.51Leedswhy did you do that?
06:24.56morsingFor fun
06:25.48Leedsright...
06:26.58morsingHow's your job btw?
06:27.10Leedsnot started yet
06:27.24morsingWhat is it?
06:28.56LeedsSolaris admin
06:29.36morsingAt SUN?
06:35.07Leedsno, of course not
06:35.20morsingNice - SUN's a good company
06:37.31Leedsseems to be a better company now than it was
06:41.41morsingI hate phoning in sick
06:43.35Leedsare you sick?
06:51.05morsingNo - interview
06:51.41morsingHow odd. Just realised that one of the first friends I got in second life, haven't seen her since though, is danish?!?
06:55.32trousers_morsing!
06:55.57morsingtrousers_!
06:56.26trousers_I get to meet you tomorrow :o
06:58.48trousers_Hmm, I need to go to school to set up the cluste.
06:58.49trousers_r
06:58.49trousers_.
06:58.50trousers_Bye
07:06.17morsing:)
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07:19.03LeedsCope!
07:22.20morsingCope!
07:22.23morsingLeeds: Stop it!
07:25.02morsingCope: Do you display your company name prominently at its registered address?
07:26.21morsingI've found a bug in OO 2.0
07:47.42morsingBeer
07:53.05Leedsgym!
07:54.20morsingNice
07:54.25morsingSausages
07:54.45morsingIt's a bit early in the morning to go to the gym,, isn't it?
07:56.01Leedsand it's not too early for beer???
07:56.12Leedshmm... Karen had sausages last night - they looked nice
07:56.41morsingKaren Butterly?
07:57.01Leedsnot that Karen
07:57.41Leedsgym time
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08:12.36morsingSlayerXP!
08:12.42SlayerXPlo
08:14.40morsingBeer?
08:15.38SlayerXPit's a bit early for me, thanks
08:23.40morsingGod I hate this
08:36.54morsingBeer
08:37.14morsingSlayerXP: Do you display your company name prominently at its registered address?
08:38.16SlayerXPmorsing: the registered address is the accountant, so no.
08:38.29morsingYoou know you have to right?
08:39.10SlayerXPmorsing:  you do?  news to me.
08:39.22SlayerXPand somehow I don't think our accountant would be up for it
08:39.25morsingYup, says so in the book I bought
08:39.34morsingSlayerXP: Well, it's not their choice
08:40.09SlayerXPi've got away with it for 5 years or more so far.
08:40.27morsingCool - fraudster
08:43.22morsingRight - just spoke to my manager - worst part of the day over
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09:08.41morsinggoibhniu!
09:08.51morsinggoibhniu: I'm off sick today
09:09.41goibhniumorsing! oh no!!
09:10.06goibhniumorsing: oh ... you're going to an interview/see the doctor
09:12.35morsing:)
09:12.40morsingWish me luck
09:14.16morsingHey cool - Google Aixperts and I'm third
09:15.35morsingNice
09:15.35morsingMoney
09:15.35goibhniumorsing: make sure you have matching socks!
09:15.39morsingOk
09:15.43morsingAnd matching ties?
09:16.05goibhniuyou'll be just fine ... stare into their eyes the whole time
09:16.24goibhniuwhat's you answer for if you could be an animal?
09:17.03goibhniumorsing: they need you more than you need them
09:19.15morsingFox
09:19.22morsinggoibhniu: I know :0
09:29.24haliGood Morning!
09:29.58morsinghali!
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09:34.52bilarh_hmm... have i been placed on morsings ignore list, or something? :-)
09:35.53morsingbilarh_!
09:36.14bilarh_morsing: thank you! :P
09:37.44halimorsing: you need to sneak in the words London and UK on that page, so you get hits for "aix expert london" and stuff like that
09:39.10bilarh_can i see the page too?
09:39.25halimorsing: and "an hours drive" ... make that three and mention travel expenses :)
09:39.38hali10:14 < morsing> Hey cool - Google Aixperts and I'm third
09:40.13bilarh_someone seems to have ddos'd it :(
09:40.20bilarh_aixperts.co.uk that is
09:40.22bilarh_oh no, here it is
09:41.43bilarh_ok, bearing in mind that i don't know squat about aix, is this correct english:
09:41.52bilarh_Main technical expert on our two AIX clients, Nisa Todays and DeLaRue, running mainly on P690s and p570s.
09:42.11bilarh_"on our" sounds wrong
09:42.29bilarh_and just 'running', not 'running on'
09:43.38bilarh_'implementing requested changes on client systems', perhaps, as otherwise you're implementing changes to systems requested by clients, i.e. it's referring to the wrong noun
09:44.14bilarh_and as you're still at your present company, it should be "ensuring reliable backups *are* running ..."
09:45.00bilarh_morsing?
09:46.25goibhniubilarh_: isn't the economy crashing today? You said thursday ... right?
09:47.07bilarh_i also said i was probably wrong and you should do your own research :_
09:47.25bilarh_that last bit was made up :-)
09:47.37bilarh_but i still don't think everything is rosy in UK Plc
09:48.29bilarh_morsing: and it's not a resume, it's a curriculum vitae
09:58.15goibhniubilarh_: ... but you are my economical forecaster ... pity ... it won't be long now I guess
09:59.56bilarh_it doesn't happen overnight :p
10:08.27halidid i mention i hate firewall-1?
10:19.21goibhniuibot: can you do this? http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~marekm/projects/beatbots/
11:17.08wethrinArr!
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11:54.49wethrin'ello, rhowe!
11:55.07rhoweevenin'
12:00.23wethrin~change 200 ZAR to GBP
12:02.22hali~change 200 Monopoly money to Real money
12:02.32halihmmm
12:02.51wethrin~change 200 EUR to GBP
12:03.03wethrinIs that monopoly enough?
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12:56.48Cope:)
13:10.14catalyst"The ultimate insult came in 1999 when his Free Software Foundation was given a "Linus Torvalds Award." Stallman accepted but said it was "like giving the Han Solo award to the Rebel Alliance.""
13:14.22z00daxyay! a Cope
13:15.47niv_one_threehi , can I have a a device mount when inserted ? hotplug magic?
13:16.51catalystniv_one_three: I believe that's done by something called HAL but I honestly don't know how you'd turn it on
13:16.54dick_turpinMine does
13:17.35niv_one_threeI seek to have my box indentify my secure digital, when insrted
13:21.39dick_turpinniv_one_three: Ah that might be a different kettle of fish, does your system recognise it?
13:22.40niv_one_threegot the dmseg . I am looking in to ivman now
13:24.15dick_turpinniv_one_three: So are you saying it shows up in dmesg?
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13:29.58dick_turpinboudiccas: Sausaaaaaggggeeessss
13:36.03niv_one_threeyes it does
13:41.44dick_turpinmorsing: They're evil
13:55.31morsingdick_turpin: I know... Left after 8 minutes
13:58.12bilarh_http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/03/top_15_unintent.html
13:58.15morsingOnly second time in my life that I've actually said in my interview that I didn't want the job
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14:04.16bilarh_morsing: how did it go?
14:04.25bilarh_apart from you not wanting the job, i mean :)
14:04.36morsingbilarh_: Crap. Left pretty quickly
14:05.35bilarh_ok :(
14:06.22dick_turpinmorsing: They wanted to pay you in 'crap'? thats not good :-)
14:06.58morsingdick_turpin: ?
14:07.17halisome people like crap though, i think there are even fetish clubs
14:07.22catalyst...
14:07.39dick_turpinmorsing: Sorry just trying to be whitty, obviously not whitty enough
14:07.46bilarh_<insert rude japanese joke>
14:07.55morsingI think I compressed the coffee too much
14:09.04dick_turpinmorsing: If it explodes I can sell you a new one
14:09.42bilarh_morsing: but what was wrong with it though? was it just not interesting technically?
14:09.55bilarh_i'd like to work for a bank again, but most of the jobs seemed soooo boring :(
14:10.02bilarh_good benefits, though :)
14:10.27morsingbilarh_: Yeah. They have nothing but 9-10 year old servers with unsupported OS versions and software to match
14:10.43morsingEverything is chaos - no documentation, structure or anything
14:11.01morsingbilarh_: You know I worked there for two weeks last year?
14:12.06halii think some banks are pretty good..
14:12.11halilike the smaller private banks
14:12.15morsingEgg?
14:12.26haliEgg isn't a bank is it?
14:12.31morsingYes it is
14:12.41halilooks really lame
14:12.48bilarh_isn't egg hsbc?
14:12.53halii'd never work for personal banking
14:12.53bilarh_or is that cahoot?
14:13.05bilarh_and why's that then?
14:13.12bilarh_morsing: no, didn't know that
14:13.20bilarh_i think retail banking might be a great job
14:13.22haliowned by prudential i think
14:13.28haliretail sucks
14:13.33haliinvestment banking in the right bank is the way to go
14:13.43halii'd like to work for someone like nomura or westlb
14:13.53bilarh_i think retail banking might be quite interesting
14:14.05bilarh_it's less of a roller coaster than investment banking
14:14.12morsing*sigh* Dorr bell just rang - some twelwe year old girl with a note saying she couldn't speak english and wanted money...
14:14.39bilarh_hrm
14:14.44bilarh_<insert sick joke>
14:14.49halibilarh_: you read my mind ;
14:15.17bilarh_i used to work alongside retail banking at bnp and it seemed that they were way more organised than us
14:15.23dick_turpinmorsing: Don't turn her away its one of my minions :-)
14:15.28bilarh_and they had better hardware and software
14:15.28bilarh_imo
14:15.36wethrinmorsing: working from home today?
14:16.04bilarh_plus if you work for an investment bank you're more likely to lose your job than in retail banking :-)
14:16.42halibilarh_: better software as in connect direct? ;)
14:17.53bilarh_no, as in more stable stuff :)
14:18.02bilarh_uptime is way more critical in retail banking than IB
14:18.32wethrinStalkerbook tells me you're getting older tomorrow, gw280
14:18.41wethrincatalyst! Coming tomorrow?
14:19.04catalysterr, I'm in Southampton and have no money for trains
14:19.13wethrinFah
14:19.32gw280wethrin: I get older every day, you tool
14:20.28wethrinYou know what I mean, fool!
14:20.44wethrinCome to Gllug, you layabout
14:21.32wethrinScare Steve
14:21.51gw280wethrin: tomorrow?
14:21.55wethrinYEah
14:22.01gw280no way
14:22.04wethrinfah
14:22.12phearlesshi guys :)
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14:24.31wethrinhi phearless
14:27.02phearlessany clever idea to remove the 2 first char in a string, with a shell command ?
14:27.12phearless2 first chars*
14:27.25wethrinyes
14:27.36wethrinsed "s,^..//"
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14:28.55phearless<PROTECTED>
14:29.02phearlessthanks :)
14:29.12wethrinEr, yeah, sorry, need to match delimiters
14:29.36wethrinI have a tendency of not using / in sed expressions
14:29.57wethrinMainly because I need to escape quite a few things, and backslashes mixed with forward slashes looks confusing
14:33.10morsingUhmmmm... Would anyone be dissapointed if I couldn't make it tomorrow?
14:34.40wethrinI would!
14:35.15morsingwethrin: How late are you staying?
14:35.33morsingI might have to go somewhere afternoon-ish but can make dinner and drinks
14:35.40wethrinOh, that'd be fine
14:36.11wethrinI'll let you know which pub we're going to
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14:37.29morsing'k
14:37.30morsingniv_one_1hree!
14:37.52wethrinAs long as you're there for the most important bit :)
14:39.32phearlesswhat's going on tmrw?
14:41.04morsingping trousers_
14:41.23morsingWhere di I put my dial caliper?
14:41.47bilarh_wethrin: cut?
14:41.58wethrinbilarh_: cut?
14:42.05wethrinphearless: Gllus meeting
14:42.19bilarh_wethrin: echo this is a long string | cut -b 3-
14:42.34bilarh_oh sorry, i meant phearless :)
14:42.36wethrinThat'd work too
14:42.56bilarh_it's annoying that you have to specify 3- though :-)
14:43.11bilarh_although i guess it makes sense, in a non-C kind of way
14:44.40phearlessok
14:45.23phearlessthank you bilarh_ , interesting way as well
14:46.22bilarh_np
14:49.51halii just understood how pseudo columns in oracle work... im so happy!
15:06.47wethrinOh, I should send out a reminder about tomorrow
15:11.23morsingNice
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15:12.19morsingCope!
15:24.39Copehullo
15:28.37wethrinIt's a Cope!
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15:37.15Copeit is
15:43.01wethrinHow's life treating you?
15:44.35morsinggethoper!
15:51.38z00daxlondo_: ping
15:51.43z00daxlondo: you too
16:01.41morsingCheck it!
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16:08.33wethrinz00dax!
16:09.40z00daxwethrin:
16:15.42trousers_Afternoon!
16:16.12trousers_I got hit by a ballistic pencil case and my head hurts :(
16:16.51wethrinboh
16:17.21trousers_wethrin!
16:18.23gw280hrmm
16:18.30trousers_gw280: Are you attending tomorrow?
16:18.33gw280no
16:18.37gw280yes
16:18.38gw280no
16:18.50gw280sorryt, that's some random person sitting next to me
16:19.23trousers_Wo bist du?
16:20.22gw280?
16:21.47trousers_Where are you?
16:24.17gw280in cambridge
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16:26.42gw280woot, there's a boxed copy of Red Hat 5.2 here
16:27.35wethrinOld-school!
16:27.45wethrinI've got some Delxue edition Redhat 6.2 for Sparcx
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16:30.16wethrin!
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16:58.20wethrinz00dax: ping?
17:08.55gw280love you
17:09.03gw280(that wasn't me)
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17:36.00morsingPussInBoots!
17:36.04morsinggw280: You suck
17:36.58gw280morsing: no, I don't
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17:50.21morsingjackds!
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17:52.35jackdshello morsing
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18:09.58morsingeye69!
18:11.08morsingWhat's RSS?
18:11.16morsingcatalyst?
18:12.17morsingibot change 23000 dkr to gbp
18:12.41morsingibot change 23000 dkk to gbp
18:17.20morsingping gw280
18:24.18morsingping *
18:34.32morsing0
18:41.26antiphaseo_o
18:46.29morsingantiphase: What's RSS?
18:46.44antiphaseSomething to so with syndication
18:46.47antiphasejfgi
18:49.02morsingNice
18:52.08morsingantiphase: Are you happy?
18:55.53antiphaseGenerally, or specifically today?
19:03.27morsingping Leeds
19:03.41morsingcatalyst: Had a crap job interview today
19:04.15catalystaww :(
19:08.04morsingbilarh_: You're right
19:09.03morsingcatalyst: I get plenty of interest, it's just too far away
19:10.16morsingMmm... Scotland
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19:14.53morsingclive-h!
19:15.08clive-hHi morsing
19:25.52morsingibot change 84000 gbp to usd
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19:34.59JosefAssadmoin
19:39.47morsingJosefAssad!
19:39.50morsingPussInBoots!
19:53.36JosefAssadcatalyst!
20:23.34morsingWhy's it so quiet here?
20:28.33boudiccascos george isn't here :))
20:29.33goibhniumorsing:  ... don't cry http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/aix.do
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22:20.50Dick_Turpinibot, I'm bored
22:20.52ibotgo touch yourself dick_turpin
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23:54.02z00dax_hello

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