IRC log for #gllug on 20070403

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04:11.46morsing'morning
04:16.06morsingLeeds?
07:13.07gw280I have two broken arms.
07:20.45morsing'morning gw280
07:20.50morsingHow did that happen?
07:20.59gw280bike
07:21.14morsingHuh? Your London bike ride?]
07:21.18morsingHow do you type?
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07:21.48morsingSlayerXP!
07:29.50gw280morsing: no, a random tesco bike ride
07:30.03gw280morsing: my right arm is still sort of mobile
07:31.56morsingDid you go to hospital or have you just taken some pain killers?
07:33.52gw280hospital
07:33.59gw280left arm in cast, right in sling
07:34.05morsingWe need to get you flowers then...
07:34.14morsingSlayerXP. Leeds: Who's organising?
07:34.48SlayerXPI appreciate the thought but George almost doesn't know the address of the person who did this to him
07:34.59SlayerXPso sending the guy flowers probably isn't na option
07:35.03morsing:)
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07:35.09morsingchr1s!
08:14.48sabinef72morning
08:17.36halippl!
08:18.14morsingsabinef72!
08:18.16morsinghali!
08:19.10sabinef72méééééééééé
08:21.27morsing:)  
08:27.34gw280hmm
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09:05.10morsingJasperw!
09:05.12morsinggoibhniu!
09:07.08goibhniumorsing!
09:09.03bilarhi want to play around with a new os for a while i think
09:09.12bilarhsomething that doesn't work properly
09:09.30morsingLike Linux?
09:09.46bilarhseems like everything interesting in linux that isn't stuff that takes months to fix is working already
09:09.53bilarhmorsing: linux is fantastic
09:10.01morsingIs it?
09:10.08bilarhyeah, for what it's good at
09:10.35bilarhi'm not saying 'run your mission critical aix software on Linux', but for web servers etc it's bloody fantastic
09:11.27bilarhalthough, you could quite successfully run oracle on linux as well, for example
09:11.41bilarhso it's not rubbish in the db arena either
09:20.37goibhniubilarh: haiku (was openBeOS)
09:20.51bilarhah
09:20.57goibhniuboots in 7 seconds
09:21.07bilarhdamn, that's fast :)
09:21.16goibhniuI saw a video on it recently
09:21.16bilarhthe best i ever got linux to was 29
09:21.28bilarhbut that was back in the 2.0 days on slackware
09:22.51bilarhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBq56Ovx38I ?
09:22.55Leedsmy laptop boots from LI to xdm in under 30 seconds
09:23.24goibhniuhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=236331448076587879
09:23.32Leedsand I could cut that down by, for example, removing the ldconfig step
09:24.03goibhniubilarh: it's got an object oriented filesystem (shiney!)
09:24.31bilarhgoibhniu: cool :)
09:24.42bilarhand it plays mario bros, too :P
09:27.13goibhniuand a finance package!!
09:28.59morsingBeer
09:33.17morsingWhat does these two do:
09:33.18morsing28172 root      25   0 19636 7060 3912 R 97.1  0.3  19944:12 up2date
09:33.18morsing28203 root      25   0 19136 4824 3896 R 95.1  0.2  19912:50 rhn_register
09:33.28morsingThat doesn't look right does it?
09:34.08antiphaseRed Hat ownz yr ass
09:34.35SlayerXPit looks like you're running redhat
09:39.07morsingDoes it look a little broken?
09:40.20SlayerXPi have no idea.  redhat always looks broken to me.
09:40.32antiphasejfgi
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10:00.30morsingasht_007!
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10:11.10asht_007hey morsing
10:14.15morsingOh god... My boss just sent out email about me leaving and I thought it was to the team but he sent it UK Attenda wide
10:15.35SlayerXPibot change 1 gbp to zwn
10:43.34trousers_morsing: Any news on this hike? :)
10:43.47wethrinhike?
10:44.12trousers_I seem to recall mention of hill-walking?
10:44.37morsingtrousers_: Which?
10:44.45morsingOhh... wethrin's arranging that
10:44.48wethrinAm I?
10:45.52morsingThe peak district
10:45.52wethrinI'll be back in a bit, then can think about it
10:45.52morsingNice
10:45.52morsingBeer?
10:48.00trousers_I need a decent domain name :(
10:48.50bilarhthey've all been taken, i'm afraid
10:48.53antiphasetitwankshitarse.co.uk
10:48.54bilarhtry trousers-nake.com
10:51.05morsingtrousers.net
10:51.32trousers_morsing: Indeed, but what's a nice cheap registration site?
10:51.42morsinglcn.biz
10:53.50trousers_morsing: trousers.net is apparently taken D:
10:54.11SlayerXPi can do .co.uk's for a tenner a year
10:54.45SlayerXPand other .uk postfixes, of course.
10:54.45trousers_SlayerXP: How'd you manage that?
10:54.58SlayerXPtrousers_: I'm a nominet member
10:55.03SlayerXPor, rather, my company is
10:55.09wethrinwww.blackcatnetworks.co.uk
10:55.26goibhniutrousers_: underpants.me.uk
10:55.50trousers_goibhniu: I was thinking that -_-
10:57.50bilarhwethrin: hrm... you're not into car audio by any chance?
10:57.54goibhniutrousers_: great minds ... wonderpants.biz
10:58.06wethrinbilarh: No, sorry
10:58.10wethrinWhy?
10:58.19bilarhah, must have been a different person :)
10:58.29bilarhnah i just thought you might have been :)
10:59.02wethrinahh
10:59.10wethrinI don't even have a car of my own
10:59.51bilarhok, no worries :)
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11:03.53wethrinkeef!
11:04.08wethrinRoight. Who's going to be coming to the (London.pm) social on Thursday?
11:04.19morsingkeithlard_!
11:04.28morsingwethrin: In Copenhagen?
11:04.41wethrinNo
11:04.46wethrinIn the Windmill
11:04.50wethrinWhen're you going to .dk ?
11:05.36antiphaseMmm, bacon
11:05.45wethrinDanish bacon?
11:06.31morsingwethrin: Thursday afternoon
11:06.52morsingJust realised I've got 10 days off in between jobs...
11:07.19wethrinoh
11:07.19wethrinyay!
11:29.22gw280hi wethrin
11:29.29wethrinhi gw280
11:29.47gw280wethrin: broke both arms woo
11:29.53wethrinerr?
11:30.00gw280wethrin: fell off bike
11:30.11gw280wethrin: broke left wrist, right elbow
11:30.25wethrinow
11:30.25boudiccasso how are you able to type with casts on?
11:30.39gw280no cast on right arm
11:30.40wethrinhow long's that going to take to heal up?
11:30.45gw2806 weeks
11:31.12boudiccasshould've been drunk on the bike, you would've been more relaxed :)
11:31.17z00daxgw280: broken elbow with no cast ?
11:31.22gw280z00dax: yeah
11:31.34gw280z00dax: the elbow's not too serious
11:31.37wethrinHm....that'll coincide nicely with exam-time, won't it?
11:31.52gw280wethrin: 10 weeks until exams
11:32.02wethrinhm
11:32.07wethrinBad timing :-P
11:32.37boudiccasis the right arm in a sling?
11:32.45gw280boudiccas: yes
11:33.01boudiccasso you're typing left handed then?
11:33.17gw280no, right handed
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11:35.56wethrinmorsing: ping?
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11:50.35morsingJasperw!
11:50.38morsingwethrin: pong
11:54.36morsingibot wake wethrin
11:54.46ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
12:04.01wethrinheh
12:52.33morsingQuick, how do I become a security risk?
12:54.05goibhniumorsing: set yourself on fire and hug the police
12:54.54bilarhmorsing: ???
13:07.36morsingSorry, Attenda tells me I'm not a security risk so no gardening leave :(
13:11.04bilarhjust work there for your notice period then:P
13:11.12bilarhit's only fair, no?
13:13.29morsingIt is...
13:13.34morsing#2
13:15.06haliif you decide to "become" a security risk i bet your references will be far from acceptable
13:18.48cpufreakits illegal to give a bad reference
13:18.48cpufreakhence why lots of places dont ask anymore
13:19.38bilarhcpufreak: the way i understood it is you can give a bad reference, but you may have to be able to support it in court, no?
13:19.40morsinghali: I've never in my life been asked for references. Don't really care :)
13:19.48morsingAnd cpufreak is right...
13:20.24bilarhmorsing: still, the right thing to do is to work your notice as agreed with the employer, otherwise you're a cnut :)
13:20.32morsingMmm... cnut
13:20.45morsingbilarh: So not like I did at Camelot then?
13:20.54bilarhwhat did you do there then?
13:21.15cpufreakmorsing:  break an arm, and get signed off work for a month
13:21.17halithe last two companies i have worked for have done, at least basic, checks with previous employeers ... i guess finance may be difference due to weird regulations
13:21.51morsingGave them one months notice - they said my contract said three - sent nasty email saying I'd leave after one - they kicked me out the same day
13:22.25bilarhwell, in essence, you broke your contract then, no?
13:22.27halisounds very rude
13:22.40morsingbilarh: I didn't in the end because they kicked me out
13:22.46bilarhi mean, a contract works both ways, doesn't it?
13:22.50morsinghali: You've never met my manager there
13:23.39morsingbilarh: Yes but there's such a thing as being unreasonable, also my manager was the biggest asshole ever so didn't at all feel loyal
13:23.51bilarhif you've signed a paper saying you're going to do something, then you should do it
13:24.09morsingbilarh: Not if it's unreasonable. He was just being an idiot
13:24.23morsing*sigh*
13:24.25bilarhin fact, it was you being an idiot :P
13:24.43bilarhif it was unreasonable, you shouldn't have signed it in the first place
13:25.47halimorsing: even so, i think breaking a contract should be mentioned when giving a reference
13:25.54hali(if that is legal)
13:26.08morsinghali: I DID NOT BREAK IT!
13:26.18bilarhmorsing: but you said you would
13:26.30haliintent
13:26.31bilarhmorsing: so you intended to break it
13:26.36morsingbilarh: I did indeed but didn't.
13:26.50haliyou cant go around doing stuff like that as a contractor
13:27.27bilarhso you intended to break your contract, and after having a good old whine they pre-empted you and threw you out?
13:33.35morsingYou two are a class act :D
13:42.32Copeit's no longer legal for an employer to give anything other than a factual reference
13:42.52Copewhich means job title, dates worked, salary
13:42.54Copethat's it
13:43.03wethrin"He steals office supplies"?
13:43.13Copeis that a crossword clue?
13:43.40wethrinNo - would that be objected to, if it was true?
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13:48.00morsingniv_one_three!
13:48.34niv_one_threemorsing: is it possible to have two distinct resulotion in X for two users?
13:49.01bilarhmorsing: speak to the hand :)
13:50.07morsingniv_one_three: Resolution?
13:50.16niv_one_threeResolution - yes
13:50.44niv_one_threebtw, I started learning spooken arabic
13:50.49morsingbilarh: My final word is that you cannot possibly comment on a specific case when you weren't even there.
13:51.09niv_one_threeguess I should have taken a spelling class  in english..
13:51.21morsingniv_one_three: Are you typing arabic right now? What do you mean resolution? Like screen resolution?
13:52.02niv_one_threemorsing: yes. I want 1200x1000 while my perents need 1024X768
13:56.11morsingniv_one_three: Should be possible but don't know exactly how
13:56.25niv_one_three10x
13:57.57cpufreakhttp://www.nealsbikepage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/my_head.jpg # why its a good idea to wear a crash helmet.
13:59.06boudiccascpufreak; rather gory but very graphic
13:59.59bilarhmorsing: i can still comment in general about breaking contracts... just because it's inconvenient to you doesn't mean you should go around breaking your word
14:00.17bilarhwhat happened to stuff like morals etc?
14:02.17morsingbilarh: You *cannot* comment on this specific case!
14:08.52bilarhi can comment on what you told us :)
14:11.25bilarhthat pic makes my skin crawl
14:11.32bilarhbut not as much as in the pic :)
14:12.49antiphaseKeep your hair on ;)
14:13.08bilarhhehe :)
15:02.11trousers_wethrin: How hard was it to get into Oxford?
15:02.35morsingtrousers_: The M40 can be a bit congested sometimes
15:03.37trousers_morsing: University.
15:04.16morsingAhh... Well, George got in...
15:04.28trousers_morsing: That was Cambridge, I though?
15:06.06wethrintrousers_: Not that hard
15:06.16wethrinmorsing: George got into The Other Place
15:30.22trousers_I'm still struglling between Physics, Maths or CompSci...
15:30.35wethrinPhysics
15:30.43wethrinIt's sort of like maths, but more useful :)
15:30.45trousers_...
15:31.02trousers_Why not ComSci?
15:31.48wethrinIt's not really that useful :)
15:32.19wethrincurious.....it appears that having a grounded probe not in contact with my device affects performance
15:33.00trousers_Probes should be invisible to the device, should they not?
15:35.43antiphaseImpedance is a funny old thing
15:37.00wethrinIndeed. Some weird E fields
15:37.54wethrintrousers_: Physics tends to give one a good grounding in lots of areas. And, more importantly, teaches one how to look things up without needing to be spoonfed
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15:40.56trousers_wethrin: http://en.wikipedia.org ?
15:41.11wethrinAlso textbooks
15:41.22wethrinYou'll get to learn how to skim the index pages *real* fast
16:03.54Copetrousers_: yay! join the way of truth
16:06.16trousers_wethrin: I can't stand skim reading D:
16:06.41wethrintrousers_: You'll learn to use it a lot just to pick out the relevant bits of information
16:06.44trousers_People spend so long writing all of it, it deserves to all be read and appreciated.
16:06.48wethrinYou can then read further at your leisure
16:06.54wethrinClearly you've never read a physics textbook :)
16:07.13trousers_GCSE is crap, remember?
16:07.25trousers_And literature is read at leisure :)
16:07.43wethrintextbooks aren't literature :)
16:08.48trousers_Yes, but books about something are. And maths is beautiful enough to be counted as such :P
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16:10.38trousers_Woops.
16:12.54wethrinhar!
16:12.58wethrinYou have a tail!
16:16.29trousers_?
16:17.12wethrinAfter your s
16:17.26trousers_Yes, trousers has been stolen D:
16:17.34wethrinwho by?
16:17.52trousers_Errm, last time I checked it was stolen.
16:18.40trousersNickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else
16:19.12haliyour secondary nick should be pants :)
16:19.20trousersI don't know if NickServ will get angry or not >.<
16:20.02trousershali: American swine! :P
16:20.28wethrinComplain to an ircop, and they might re-register it
16:20.52trousersHmm. I don't know any...
16:20.56trousersAnd I'm lazy :)
16:23.06trousersHmm. Is gwright.org.uk down or is it me?
16:24.07wethrinDunno. Ask gw280
16:24.29wethrinDoesn't work for me
16:26.09trousersOooh! Yay!
16:27.45Copeyay?
16:28.18trousersFilesystems == fun.
16:28.34wethrinAlthough someone else really ought to organise the next Gllug meeting
16:32.08wethrinI won't be able to attend anything until July
16:32.11wethrin(at least)
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16:33.05trouserswethrin: Why so?
16:33.50wethrinI'm a busy man :)
16:34.33wethrinEaster this weekend; music next weekend; Greece the weekend after
16:34.52wethrinThen it's termtime until the end of June. Moving to a new place at the start of July
16:35.03wethrinAnd stag do, and more music stuff on in July
17:03.36gw280trousers: down
17:03.44gw280trousers: up again now
17:04.38wethrinthat's almost topic-worthy
17:04.51gw280?
17:07.13wethrin<gw280> trousers: down
17:07.31gw280...
17:09.38antiphaselulz
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17:51.24gregjwethrin: any chance to ask you to please review my GF CV for me ? I need someone to proof read it for me please
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17:56.28gregjwethrin: if you can, gimme your email please
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18:05.53wethringregj: dan@eco.li
18:06.02wethrinOr send me a link
18:06.21wethrinVROOOOOOM
18:11.26gregjwethrin: it's in doc I am affraid
18:11.28wethringregj: Ah. I don't have Word
18:11.29wethrinCan you export to PDF?
18:11.29gregjwethrin: sure
18:11.29wethrinWell, I have it in the office, but then I can't do anything until tomorrow
18:11.29gregjI am on mac, so ...
18:11.33gregjon its way
18:11.36gregjthanks mate :)
18:12.08gregjgotta walk me doggie
18:12.08gregjbrb
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18:32.41Leedsrhowe: ping?
18:33.18Leeds~seen rhowe
18:33.55ibotrhowe <i=rhowe@xiao.siksai.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 5h 12m 44s ago, saying: 'I'd be a fool if I didn't :)'.
18:33.56Leedsfor those who may be wondering, he's actually sitting next to me :-)
18:34.07wethrinyay
18:34.07wethrinHello to both of you
18:34.20Leeds(rhowe) wethrin: /last rhowe? When was I last online?
18:37.19wethrinI don't know
18:37.37Leedswell you're bloody useless!
18:37.37wethrin/last, /whowas don't give anything
18:37.47gw280moo
18:37.54wethrin~logs
18:37.55ibot[logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
18:38.01wethrinYou could just check in the channel logs
18:38.43Leedsgot my own logs here...
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20:19.50trouserswethrin: Could you be so kind as to suggest some reading on filesystems and filesystem development?
20:22.49wethrinErr. Possibly a book about Operating Systems would be useful
20:23.26wethrinOtherwise people have written about implemented filesystes; Wikipedia would be a good start, and follow the references
20:27.48gw280moo
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21:02.55haligutten abend
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21:39.00haligo on, be idle!
21:50.21wethrinI was doing other things!
21:51.20catalystheh :)
21:53.43halihm, i need to sort out my hifi stuff... or at least get new headphones... these ones i have give itches!
21:53.55haliand not in the good way
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