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04:11.46 | morsing | 'morning |
04:16.06 | morsing | Leeds? |
07:13.07 | gw280 | I have two broken arms. |
07:20.45 | morsing | 'morning gw280 |
07:20.50 | morsing | How did that happen? |
07:20.59 | gw280 | bike |
07:21.14 | morsing | Huh? Your London bike ride?] |
07:21.18 | morsing | How do you type? |
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07:21.48 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
07:29.50 | gw280 | morsing: no, a random tesco bike ride |
07:30.03 | gw280 | morsing: my right arm is still sort of mobile |
07:31.56 | morsing | Did you go to hospital or have you just taken some pain killers? |
07:33.52 | gw280 | hospital |
07:33.59 | gw280 | left arm in cast, right in sling |
07:34.05 | morsing | We need to get you flowers then... |
07:34.14 | morsing | SlayerXP. Leeds: Who's organising? |
07:34.48 | SlayerXP | I appreciate the thought but George almost doesn't know the address of the person who did this to him |
07:34.59 | SlayerXP | so sending the guy flowers probably isn't na option |
07:35.03 | morsing | :) |
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07:35.09 | morsing | chr1s! |
08:14.48 | sabinef72 | morning |
08:17.36 | hali | ppl! |
08:18.14 | morsing | sabinef72! |
08:18.16 | morsing | hali! |
08:19.10 | sabinef72 | méééééééééé |
08:21.27 | morsing | :) |
08:27.34 | gw280 | hmm |
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09:05.10 | morsing | Jasperw! |
09:05.12 | morsing | goibhniu! |
09:07.08 | goibhniu | morsing! |
09:09.03 | bilarh | i want to play around with a new os for a while i think |
09:09.12 | bilarh | something that doesn't work properly |
09:09.30 | morsing | Like Linux? |
09:09.46 | bilarh | seems like everything interesting in linux that isn't stuff that takes months to fix is working already |
09:09.53 | bilarh | morsing: linux is fantastic |
09:10.01 | morsing | Is it? |
09:10.08 | bilarh | yeah, for what it's good at |
09:10.35 | bilarh | i'm not saying 'run your mission critical aix software on Linux', but for web servers etc it's bloody fantastic |
09:11.27 | bilarh | although, you could quite successfully run oracle on linux as well, for example |
09:11.41 | bilarh | so it's not rubbish in the db arena either |
09:20.37 | goibhniu | bilarh: haiku (was openBeOS) |
09:20.51 | bilarh | ah |
09:20.57 | goibhniu | boots in 7 seconds |
09:21.07 | bilarh | damn, that's fast :) |
09:21.16 | goibhniu | I saw a video on it recently |
09:21.16 | bilarh | the best i ever got linux to was 29 |
09:21.28 | bilarh | but that was back in the 2.0 days on slackware |
09:22.51 | bilarh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBq56Ovx38I ? |
09:22.55 | Leeds | my laptop boots from LI to xdm in under 30 seconds |
09:23.24 | goibhniu | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=236331448076587879 |
09:23.32 | Leeds | and I could cut that down by, for example, removing the ldconfig step |
09:24.03 | goibhniu | bilarh: it's got an object oriented filesystem (shiney!) |
09:24.31 | bilarh | goibhniu: cool :) |
09:24.42 | bilarh | and it plays mario bros, too :P |
09:27.13 | goibhniu | and a finance package!! |
09:28.59 | morsing | Beer |
09:33.17 | morsing | What does these two do: |
09:33.18 | morsing | 28172 root 25 0 19636 7060 3912 R 97.1 0.3 19944:12 up2date |
09:33.18 | morsing | 28203 root 25 0 19136 4824 3896 R 95.1 0.2 19912:50 rhn_register |
09:33.28 | morsing | That doesn't look right does it? |
09:34.08 | antiphase | Red Hat ownz yr ass |
09:34.35 | SlayerXP | it looks like you're running redhat |
09:39.07 | morsing | Does it look a little broken? |
09:40.20 | SlayerXP | i have no idea. redhat always looks broken to me. |
09:40.32 | antiphase | jfgi |
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10:00.30 | morsing | asht_007! |
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10:11.10 | asht_007 | hey morsing |
10:14.15 | morsing | Oh god... My boss just sent out email about me leaving and I thought it was to the team but he sent it UK Attenda wide |
10:15.35 | SlayerXP | ibot change 1 gbp to zwn |
10:43.34 | trousers_ | morsing: Any news on this hike? :) |
10:43.47 | wethrin | hike? |
10:44.12 | trousers_ | I seem to recall mention of hill-walking? |
10:44.37 | morsing | trousers_: Which? |
10:44.45 | morsing | Ohh... wethrin's arranging that |
10:44.48 | wethrin | Am I? |
10:45.52 | morsing | The peak district |
10:45.52 | wethrin | I'll be back in a bit, then can think about it |
10:45.52 | morsing | Nice |
10:45.52 | morsing | Beer? |
10:48.00 | trousers_ | I need a decent domain name :( |
10:48.50 | bilarh | they've all been taken, i'm afraid |
10:48.53 | antiphase | titwankshitarse.co.uk |
10:48.54 | bilarh | try trousers-nake.com |
10:51.05 | morsing | trousers.net |
10:51.32 | trousers_ | morsing: Indeed, but what's a nice cheap registration site? |
10:51.42 | morsing | lcn.biz |
10:53.50 | trousers_ | morsing: trousers.net is apparently taken D: |
10:54.11 | SlayerXP | i can do .co.uk's for a tenner a year |
10:54.45 | SlayerXP | and other .uk postfixes, of course. |
10:54.45 | trousers_ | SlayerXP: How'd you manage that? |
10:54.58 | SlayerXP | trousers_: I'm a nominet member |
10:55.03 | SlayerXP | or, rather, my company is |
10:55.09 | wethrin | www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk |
10:55.26 | goibhniu | trousers_: underpants.me.uk |
10:55.50 | trousers_ | goibhniu: I was thinking that -_- |
10:57.50 | bilarh | wethrin: hrm... you're not into car audio by any chance? |
10:57.54 | goibhniu | trousers_: great minds ... wonderpants.biz |
10:58.06 | wethrin | bilarh: No, sorry |
10:58.10 | wethrin | Why? |
10:58.19 | bilarh | ah, must have been a different person :) |
10:58.29 | bilarh | nah i just thought you might have been :) |
10:59.02 | wethrin | ahh |
10:59.10 | wethrin | I don't even have a car of my own |
10:59.51 | bilarh | ok, no worries :) |
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11:03.53 | wethrin | keef! |
11:04.08 | wethrin | Roight. Who's going to be coming to the (London.pm) social on Thursday? |
11:04.19 | morsing | keithlard_! |
11:04.28 | morsing | wethrin: In Copenhagen? |
11:04.41 | wethrin | No |
11:04.46 | wethrin | In the Windmill |
11:04.50 | wethrin | When're you going to .dk ? |
11:05.36 | antiphase | Mmm, bacon |
11:05.45 | wethrin | Danish bacon? |
11:06.31 | morsing | wethrin: Thursday afternoon |
11:06.52 | morsing | Just realised I've got 10 days off in between jobs... |
11:07.19 | wethrin | oh |
11:07.19 | wethrin | yay! |
11:29.22 | gw280 | hi wethrin |
11:29.29 | wethrin | hi gw280 |
11:29.47 | gw280 | wethrin: broke both arms woo |
11:29.53 | wethrin | err? |
11:30.00 | gw280 | wethrin: fell off bike |
11:30.11 | gw280 | wethrin: broke left wrist, right elbow |
11:30.25 | wethrin | ow |
11:30.25 | boudiccas | so how are you able to type with casts on? |
11:30.39 | gw280 | no cast on right arm |
11:30.40 | wethrin | how long's that going to take to heal up? |
11:30.45 | gw280 | 6 weeks |
11:31.12 | boudiccas | should've been drunk on the bike, you would've been more relaxed :) |
11:31.17 | z00dax | gw280: broken elbow with no cast ? |
11:31.22 | gw280 | z00dax: yeah |
11:31.34 | gw280 | z00dax: the elbow's not too serious |
11:31.37 | wethrin | Hm....that'll coincide nicely with exam-time, won't it? |
11:31.52 | gw280 | wethrin: 10 weeks until exams |
11:32.02 | wethrin | hm |
11:32.07 | wethrin | Bad timing :-P |
11:32.37 | boudiccas | is the right arm in a sling? |
11:32.45 | gw280 | boudiccas: yes |
11:33.01 | boudiccas | so you're typing left handed then? |
11:33.17 | gw280 | no, right handed |
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11:35.56 | wethrin | morsing: ping? |
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11:50.35 | morsing | Jasperw! |
11:50.38 | morsing | wethrin: pong |
11:54.36 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
11:54.46 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
12:04.01 | wethrin | heh |
12:52.33 | morsing | Quick, how do I become a security risk? |
12:54.05 | goibhniu | morsing: set yourself on fire and hug the police |
12:54.54 | bilarh | morsing: ??? |
13:07.36 | morsing | Sorry, Attenda tells me I'm not a security risk so no gardening leave :( |
13:11.04 | bilarh | just work there for your notice period then:P |
13:11.12 | bilarh | it's only fair, no? |
13:13.29 | morsing | It is... |
13:13.34 | morsing | #2 |
13:15.06 | hali | if you decide to "become" a security risk i bet your references will be far from acceptable |
13:18.48 | cpufreak | its illegal to give a bad reference |
13:18.48 | cpufreak | hence why lots of places dont ask anymore |
13:19.38 | bilarh | cpufreak: the way i understood it is you can give a bad reference, but you may have to be able to support it in court, no? |
13:19.40 | morsing | hali: I've never in my life been asked for references. Don't really care :) |
13:19.48 | morsing | And cpufreak is right... |
13:20.24 | bilarh | morsing: still, the right thing to do is to work your notice as agreed with the employer, otherwise you're a cnut :) |
13:20.32 | morsing | Mmm... cnut |
13:20.45 | morsing | bilarh: So not like I did at Camelot then? |
13:20.54 | bilarh | what did you do there then? |
13:21.15 | cpufreak | morsing: break an arm, and get signed off work for a month |
13:21.17 | hali | the last two companies i have worked for have done, at least basic, checks with previous employeers ... i guess finance may be difference due to weird regulations |
13:21.51 | morsing | Gave them one months notice - they said my contract said three - sent nasty email saying I'd leave after one - they kicked me out the same day |
13:22.25 | bilarh | well, in essence, you broke your contract then, no? |
13:22.27 | hali | sounds very rude |
13:22.40 | morsing | bilarh: I didn't in the end because they kicked me out |
13:22.46 | bilarh | i mean, a contract works both ways, doesn't it? |
13:22.50 | morsing | hali: You've never met my manager there |
13:23.39 | morsing | bilarh: Yes but there's such a thing as being unreasonable, also my manager was the biggest asshole ever so didn't at all feel loyal |
13:23.51 | bilarh | if you've signed a paper saying you're going to do something, then you should do it |
13:24.09 | morsing | bilarh: Not if it's unreasonable. He was just being an idiot |
13:24.23 | morsing | *sigh* |
13:24.25 | bilarh | in fact, it was you being an idiot :P |
13:24.43 | bilarh | if it was unreasonable, you shouldn't have signed it in the first place |
13:25.47 | hali | morsing: even so, i think breaking a contract should be mentioned when giving a reference |
13:25.54 | hali | (if that is legal) |
13:26.08 | morsing | hali: I DID NOT BREAK IT! |
13:26.18 | bilarh | morsing: but you said you would |
13:26.30 | hali | intent |
13:26.31 | bilarh | morsing: so you intended to break it |
13:26.36 | morsing | bilarh: I did indeed but didn't. |
13:26.50 | hali | you cant go around doing stuff like that as a contractor |
13:27.27 | bilarh | so you intended to break your contract, and after having a good old whine they pre-empted you and threw you out? |
13:33.35 | morsing | You two are a class act :D |
13:42.32 | Cope | it's no longer legal for an employer to give anything other than a factual reference |
13:42.52 | Cope | which means job title, dates worked, salary |
13:42.54 | Cope | that's it |
13:43.03 | wethrin | "He steals office supplies"? |
13:43.13 | Cope | is that a crossword clue? |
13:43.40 | wethrin | No - would that be objected to, if it was true? |
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13:48.00 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
13:48.34 | niv_one_three | morsing: is it possible to have two distinct resulotion in X for two users? |
13:49.01 | bilarh | morsing: speak to the hand :) |
13:50.07 | morsing | niv_one_three: Resolution? |
13:50.16 | niv_one_three | Resolution - yes |
13:50.44 | niv_one_three | btw, I started learning spooken arabic |
13:50.49 | morsing | bilarh: My final word is that you cannot possibly comment on a specific case when you weren't even there. |
13:51.09 | niv_one_three | guess I should have taken a spelling class in english.. |
13:51.21 | morsing | niv_one_three: Are you typing arabic right now? What do you mean resolution? Like screen resolution? |
13:52.02 | niv_one_three | morsing: yes. I want 1200x1000 while my perents need 1024X768 |
13:56.11 | morsing | niv_one_three: Should be possible but don't know exactly how |
13:56.25 | niv_one_three | 10x |
13:57.57 | cpufreak | http://www.nealsbikepage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/my_head.jpg # why its a good idea to wear a crash helmet. |
13:59.06 | boudiccas | cpufreak; rather gory but very graphic |
13:59.59 | bilarh | morsing: i can still comment in general about breaking contracts... just because it's inconvenient to you doesn't mean you should go around breaking your word |
14:00.17 | bilarh | what happened to stuff like morals etc? |
14:02.17 | morsing | bilarh: You *cannot* comment on this specific case! |
14:08.52 | bilarh | i can comment on what you told us :) |
14:11.25 | bilarh | that pic makes my skin crawl |
14:11.32 | bilarh | but not as much as in the pic :) |
14:12.49 | antiphase | Keep your hair on ;) |
14:13.08 | bilarh | hehe :) |
15:02.11 | trousers_ | wethrin: How hard was it to get into Oxford? |
15:02.35 | morsing | trousers_: The M40 can be a bit congested sometimes |
15:03.37 | trousers_ | morsing: University. |
15:04.16 | morsing | Ahh... Well, George got in... |
15:04.28 | trousers_ | morsing: That was Cambridge, I though? |
15:06.06 | wethrin | trousers_: Not that hard |
15:06.16 | wethrin | morsing: George got into The Other Place |
15:30.22 | trousers_ | I'm still struglling between Physics, Maths or CompSci... |
15:30.35 | wethrin | Physics |
15:30.43 | wethrin | It's sort of like maths, but more useful :) |
15:30.45 | trousers_ | ... |
15:31.02 | trousers_ | Why not ComSci? |
15:31.48 | wethrin | It's not really that useful :) |
15:32.19 | wethrin | curious.....it appears that having a grounded probe not in contact with my device affects performance |
15:33.00 | trousers_ | Probes should be invisible to the device, should they not? |
15:35.43 | antiphase | Impedance is a funny old thing |
15:37.00 | wethrin | Indeed. Some weird E fields |
15:37.54 | wethrin | trousers_: Physics tends to give one a good grounding in lots of areas. And, more importantly, teaches one how to look things up without needing to be spoonfed |
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15:40.56 | trousers_ | wethrin: http://en.wikipedia.org ? |
15:41.11 | wethrin | Also textbooks |
15:41.22 | wethrin | You'll get to learn how to skim the index pages *real* fast |
16:03.54 | Cope | trousers_: yay! join the way of truth |
16:06.16 | trousers_ | wethrin: I can't stand skim reading D: |
16:06.41 | wethrin | trousers_: You'll learn to use it a lot just to pick out the relevant bits of information |
16:06.44 | trousers_ | People spend so long writing all of it, it deserves to all be read and appreciated. |
16:06.48 | wethrin | You can then read further at your leisure |
16:06.54 | wethrin | Clearly you've never read a physics textbook :) |
16:07.13 | trousers_ | GCSE is crap, remember? |
16:07.25 | trousers_ | And literature is read at leisure :) |
16:07.43 | wethrin | textbooks aren't literature :) |
16:08.48 | trousers_ | Yes, but books about something are. And maths is beautiful enough to be counted as such :P |
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16:10.38 | trousers_ | Woops. |
16:12.54 | wethrin | har! |
16:12.58 | wethrin | You have a tail! |
16:16.29 | trousers_ | ? |
16:17.12 | wethrin | After your s |
16:17.26 | trousers_ | Yes, trousers has been stolen D: |
16:17.34 | wethrin | who by? |
16:17.52 | trousers_ | Errm, last time I checked it was stolen. |
16:18.40 | trousers | NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else |
16:19.12 | hali | your secondary nick should be pants :) |
16:19.20 | trousers | I don't know if NickServ will get angry or not >.< |
16:20.02 | trousers | hali: American swine! :P |
16:20.28 | wethrin | Complain to an ircop, and they might re-register it |
16:20.52 | trousers | Hmm. I don't know any... |
16:20.56 | trousers | And I'm lazy :) |
16:23.06 | trousers | Hmm. Is gwright.org.uk down or is it me? |
16:24.07 | wethrin | Dunno. Ask gw280 |
16:24.29 | wethrin | Doesn't work for me |
16:26.09 | trousers | Oooh! Yay! |
16:27.45 | Cope | yay? |
16:28.18 | trousers | Filesystems == fun. |
16:28.34 | wethrin | Although someone else really ought to organise the next Gllug meeting |
16:32.08 | wethrin | I won't be able to attend anything until July |
16:32.11 | wethrin | (at least) |
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16:33.05 | trousers | wethrin: Why so? |
16:33.50 | wethrin | I'm a busy man :) |
16:34.33 | wethrin | Easter this weekend; music next weekend; Greece the weekend after |
16:34.52 | wethrin | Then it's termtime until the end of June. Moving to a new place at the start of July |
16:35.03 | wethrin | And stag do, and more music stuff on in July |
17:03.36 | gw280 | trousers: down |
17:03.44 | gw280 | trousers: up again now |
17:04.38 | wethrin | that's almost topic-worthy |
17:04.51 | gw280 | ? |
17:07.13 | wethrin | <gw280> trousers: down |
17:07.31 | gw280 | ... |
17:09.38 | antiphase | lulz |
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17:51.24 | gregj | wethrin: any chance to ask you to please review my GF CV for me ? I need someone to proof read it for me please |
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17:56.28 | gregj | wethrin: if you can, gimme your email please |
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18:05.53 | wethrin | gregj: dan@eco.li |
18:06.02 | wethrin | Or send me a link |
18:06.21 | wethrin | VROOOOOOM |
18:11.26 | gregj | wethrin: it's in doc I am affraid |
18:11.28 | wethrin | gregj: Ah. I don't have Word |
18:11.29 | wethrin | Can you export to PDF? |
18:11.29 | gregj | wethrin: sure |
18:11.29 | wethrin | Well, I have it in the office, but then I can't do anything until tomorrow |
18:11.29 | gregj | I am on mac, so ... |
18:11.33 | gregj | on its way |
18:11.36 | gregj | thanks mate :) |
18:12.08 | gregj | gotta walk me doggie |
18:12.08 | gregj | brb |
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18:32.41 | Leeds | rhowe: ping? |
18:33.18 | Leeds | ~seen rhowe |
18:33.55 | ibot | rhowe <i=rhowe@xiao.siksai.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 5h 12m 44s ago, saying: 'I'd be a fool if I didn't :)'. |
18:33.56 | Leeds | for those who may be wondering, he's actually sitting next to me :-) |
18:34.07 | wethrin | yay |
18:34.07 | wethrin | Hello to both of you |
18:34.20 | Leeds | (rhowe) wethrin: /last rhowe? When was I last online? |
18:37.19 | wethrin | I don't know |
18:37.37 | Leeds | well you're bloody useless! |
18:37.37 | wethrin | /last, /whowas don't give anything |
18:37.47 | gw280 | moo |
18:37.54 | wethrin | ~logs |
18:37.55 | ibot | [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
18:38.01 | wethrin | You could just check in the channel logs |
18:38.43 | Leeds | got my own logs here... |
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20:19.50 | trousers | wethrin: Could you be so kind as to suggest some reading on filesystems and filesystem development? |
20:22.49 | wethrin | Err. Possibly a book about Operating Systems would be useful |
20:23.26 | wethrin | Otherwise people have written about implemented filesystes; Wikipedia would be a good start, and follow the references |
20:27.48 | gw280 | moo |
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21:02.55 | hali | gutten abend |
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21:39.00 | hali | go on, be idle! |
21:50.21 | wethrin | I was doing other things! |
21:51.20 | catalyst | heh :) |
21:53.43 | hali | hm, i need to sort out my hifi stuff... or at least get new headphones... these ones i have give itches! |
21:53.55 | hali | and not in the good way |
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