| 00:01.54 | catalyst | it's okay, you can have some blood too |
| 00:02.17 | trousers_ | :D |
| 00:03.46 | z00dax | gw280: not always |
| 00:04.01 | z00dax | icepacks are better in most cases, and if you dont know - your better guess is an icepack |
| 00:05.18 | clive-h | eudora for linu? |
| 00:05.30 | clive-h | x |
| 00:12.21 | z00dax | yea |
| 00:12.34 | z00dax | them thrown their lot in with them mozilla folkx |
| 00:15.28 | clive-h | ah yes moving to thunderbird |
| 00:17.56 | gw280 | z00dax: are you coming to akademy this year? :P |
| 00:18.03 | z00dax | whre is it ? |
| 00:18.13 | gw280 | glasgow |
| 00:19.33 | z00dax | i might |
| 00:19.42 | z00dax | will someone pay for my hotel ? |
| 00:19.52 | gw280 | no |
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| 00:20.40 | clive-h | hmmm |
| 00:21.20 | clive-h | i hope fedora 7 works better on this laptop |
| 00:21.49 | gw280 | use ubuntu :D |
| 00:21.50 | clive-h | it's not seeing 2 of my 4 usb ports |
| 00:22.08 | clive-h | errrk debian based no thanks |
| 00:22.21 | clive-h | I like rpm |
| 00:22.35 | clive-h | and yum |
| 00:22.45 | z00dax | clive-h: try smartpm sometime. its not half bad |
| 00:22.55 | z00dax | btw, do you know why the 2 other usb's are not seen ? |
| 00:23.06 | clive-h | Not yet |
| 00:23.23 | clive-h | dmesg detects them |
| 00:24.20 | clive-h | But plugging an external trackball doesn't work with them |
| 00:25.11 | clive-h | what's smartpm? |
| 00:26.15 | z00dax | its a package manager, like yum, written in python - but based on a more user usability focused approach |
| 00:26.36 | clive-h | errrk |
| 00:26.36 | z00dax | yum focuses on doing the right thing, making no assumptions and making no decisions for you. Smartpm does some of that |
| 00:27.01 | clive-h | i'd rather use yum |
| 00:27.02 | z00dax | but mostly in a good way, and has lots of features from other pkging systems before and since |
| 00:27.14 | z00dax | although, yum is catching up in features thanks for plugins now |
| 00:27.18 | clive-h | i know what i'm doing |
| 00:27.42 | clive-h | and i know rpm very well |
| 00:29.03 | clive-h | And I never install guis on servers anyway |
| 00:30.04 | clive-h | Clearly my laptop isn't a server |
| 00:30.37 | z00dax | :) |
| 00:30.37 | gw280 | anyone here know much about good quality fountain pens? |
| 00:31.03 | z00dax | gw280: Montblanc sorts / |
| 00:34.20 | gw280 | z00dax: decent ones. |
| 00:34.20 | clive-h | blimey |
| 00:34.20 | z00dax | I like my Montblanc :) |
| 00:34.21 | clive-h | do they still make Quink ink |
| 00:34.21 | gw280 | http://theonlinepencompany.com/product_images/P_Sonnet_Laque_Blk_ST_FP_L.jpg |
| 00:34.21 | gw280 | I'm tempted to get that |
| 00:34.21 | gw280 | clive-h: yes |
| 00:34.21 | z00dax | I had a nice cross at one point that someone nick'd off me |
| 00:34.21 | clive-h | At one point I used a quite expensive parker fountain pen |
| 00:34.21 | gw280 | cross? |
| 00:34.22 | clive-h | but i rarely handwrite anything these days |
| 00:34.22 | z00dax | www.cross.com |
| 00:35.14 | gw280 | the guy across the corridor from me has three 150 pound parkers |
| 00:35.21 | clive-h | although i do keep notebooks in my strange handwriting when i'm working |
| 00:35.59 | clive-h | i quite like those narrow point pens |
| 00:36.58 | clive-h | and black not blue ink |
| 00:37.22 | z00dax | purple and green ink for me |
| 00:38.52 | clive-h | green ink for me is what auditors use |
| 00:39.26 | trousers_ | I can't stand anything that isn't black ink. |
| 00:39.41 | clive-h | i trained as an accountant |
| 00:40.05 | clive-h | of sorts anyway |
| 00:40.35 | clive-h | i was happy to move to IT |
| 00:40.51 | z00dax | just |
| 00:42.05 | clive-h | I should pull my VMS stuff off the other bo |
| 00:48.06 | z00dax | ocaml ? |
| 00:48.16 | z00dax | or is that no longer obscure enough for most folkx |
| 00:48.24 | clive-h | Lol |
| 00:48.33 | z00dax | lua! |
| 00:49.03 | clive-h | Is rexx obscure enough? |
| 00:49.16 | z00dax | thats mainstream |
| 00:49.17 | clive-h | Or FileTAB? |
| 00:49.29 | clive-h | or APL |
| 00:49.31 | z00dax | i did rexx for a while, and lots of banks and large companies still use rexx day to day |
| 00:49.42 | z00dax | FileTAB => NeverHeardOfIt |
| 00:49.51 | z00dax | apl, was well before my time, i am not old :) |
| 00:50.23 | clive-h | National Computing Centre did FileTAB |
| 00:50.35 | clive-h | there's a linux port |
| 00:51.00 | clive-h | APL is still used in banking |
| 00:52.04 | clive-h | I had BCPL,Forth and Lisp on my BBC |
| 00:53.44 | clive-h | lua is obscure though |
| 00:57.05 | gw280 | http://theonlinepencompany.com/product_images/P_100_Cobalt_Black_SL_FP_L.jpg |
| 00:57.13 | gw280 | any comments on the parker 100? |
| 00:58.50 | clive-h | it's black |
| 00:59.53 | clive-h | isn't the point what it's like to write with? |
| 01:00.45 | clive-h | don't you live in Cambridge? |
| 01:01.22 | clive-h | there are shops that sell pens there |
| 01:02.21 | gw280 | I'm in london trying to recover |
| 01:02.56 | gw280 | and I have no intention of leaving |
| 01:03.02 | gw280 | the house |
| 01:03.03 | clive-h | there's a parker shop in fleet street |
| 01:03.18 | gw280 | I'm not running around london in the state that I'm in |
| 01:03.26 | clive-h | just beyond the aldwych |
| 01:03.29 | z00dax | gw280: you can walk |
| 01:04.02 | gw280 | z00dax: yes, but my face is all munged up, and my left arm is in a cast |
| 01:05.13 | clive-h | if you're in london, local ryman shops sell high end pens |
| 01:06.10 | gw280 | I'm in Mill Hill |
| 01:06.15 | gw280 | anyway, I need to go to A&E tomorrow |
| 01:06.17 | gw280 | (woohoo) |
| 01:06.45 | z00dax | why ? planning on another accident ? |
| 01:06.53 | clive-h | a&e is never fun |
| 01:06.59 | gw280 | z00dax: check up |
| 01:07.15 | z00dax | i didnt think you had to go via a&e for regular checkups, isnt that via appointment with a doc ? |
| 01:07.29 | clive-h | You mean outpatients then |
| 01:07.40 | gw280 | z00dax: well, I need to move my appointment from A&E in Cambridge to my local one in Barnet |
| 01:08.29 | clive-h | A&E is emergency only |
| 01:08.33 | gw280 | indeed |
| 01:08.56 | gw280 | but I was told to go to A&E to reschedule |
| 01:11.08 | clive-h | well that may be a local thing |
| 01:12.52 | clive-h | there's a rymans on finchley central high street |
| 01:13.08 | clive-h | oh i like rotring pens |
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| 03:27.44 | z00dax | so, there seem to be a bunch of cops on my street |
| 04:14.00 | Leeds | fun |
| 06:14.24 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:19.21 | morsing | Leeds? |
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| 06:42.18 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
| 06:45.32 | niv_one_three | should I say "suck me" ? |
| 06:45.36 | niv_one_three | :-) |
| 06:45.38 | morsing | ? |
| 06:46.12 | niv_one_three | that yesterday corespondece you had with that chap... |
| 06:46.22 | morsing | "That chap"? |
| 06:46.25 | morsing | George? |
| 06:47.10 | niv_one_three | I dont remember |
| 07:05.30 | morsing | Mmm... George |
| 07:18.29 | niv_one_three | :-) genesis: "its time for lunch ..." |
| 07:31.24 | morsing | Why do I get this message when clicking on the RSS link: |
| 07:31.24 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.54 | morsing | Hello? |
| 08:13.49 | niv_one_three | what? |
| 08:17.21 | gw280 | hrm |
| 08:17.29 | gw280 | just booted out of A&E |
| 08:17.59 | gw280 | they apparently have this silly desire to have my medical record before treating me :) |
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| 08:19.15 | sabinef72 | morning all |
| 08:19.28 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:19.28 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 08:19.57 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 08:20.32 | gw280 | silly hospitals |
| 08:26.11 | morsing | gw280: How are you today? |
| 08:29.04 | sabinef72 | me ? I'm ok |
| 08:29.13 | sabinef72 | and there is still a big sun |
| 08:29.16 | sabinef72 | that's cheers me up |
| 08:32.51 | morsing | It's cold but sunny here :) |
| 08:37.16 | bilarh | bloody district line |
| 08:37.31 | bilarh | i had to sit with the proles on the bus for an hour :( |
| 08:40.14 | morsing | Mmm... Profiteroles |
| 08:43.28 | morsing | sabinef72: What are you doing today? |
| 08:44.20 | sabinef72 | translations in french and spanish for the baby game |
| 08:46.12 | morsing | Cool - do you need danish as well? |
| 08:48.53 | sabinef72 | you are the only dane people I know ... and you understand english |
| 08:52.28 | morsing | :) |
| 08:55.12 | sabinef72 | but you can practise more french and spanish |
| 08:55.26 | bilarh | cerrar |
| 08:55.29 | sabinef72 | you can read english and you will have translations in french and spanish too |
| 08:55.31 | bilarh | means close program, i think :) |
| 08:55.37 | bilarh | alt-f4 cerrar |
| 08:55.49 | sabinef72 | cerrar = to close |
| 08:55.55 | bilarh | that's all i remember from working in a spanish office for a couple of weeks some years back |
| 08:56.25 | morsing | Nice - not very scandinavian... |
| 08:56.52 | bilarh | for some reason i seem to recall the word "impregnar" on some menu in office as well... i'm not quite sure why microsoft would have added a menu option to impregnate someone, especially in a catholic country |
| 08:57.13 | bilarh | or maybe it was imprimer :) |
| 08:58.12 | sabinef72 | sound strange |
| 09:02.18 | bilarh | it's just my accent :( |
| 09:12.07 | sabinef72 | are you an english man ? (or woman) ? |
| 09:15.32 | morsing | sabinef72: Swedish I think... |
| 09:20.03 | bilarh | i prefer to think of myself as european :) |
| 09:20.42 | morsing | So do I actually |
| 09:21.23 | goibhniu | morsing: not for long |
| 09:21.25 | bilarh | i keep thinking of you as norweigan for some reason :) |
| 09:21.45 | goibhniu | morsing do you have to sing "god save the queen"? |
| 09:21.58 | bilarh | the sex pistols version :) |
| 09:22.20 | bilarh | i know it's terrible, but i actually bought the "nerver mind the bollocks, here's the sex pistols" t-shirt last weekend :9 |
| 09:22.24 | bilarh | it's bright yellow too :D |
| 09:22.38 | bilarh | so i look a bit like a fat chicken in it, but it's ok because it's easter :) |
| 09:22.45 | morsing | goibhniu: ? |
| 09:22.57 | goibhniu | bilarh: is that why you were asking about car hifi gear? |
| 09:23.16 | morsing | goibhniu: What did you mean? |
| 09:23.26 | goibhniu | morsing: when you turn your back on your proud nation and become an imperialist |
| 09:23.33 | sabinef72 | bilarh: it was just to know if it's easy to speak spanish for an english man |
| 09:23.55 | bilarh | goighniu: no actually, it's just that there's a "black cat" on one of the car audio forums that seems to know what he's talking about, and i think he's a linux admin (might be completely wrong), and then i saw that wethrin's ptr is blackcatnetworks something |
| 09:25.01 | bilarh | sabine: ah :-) Spanish is quite different to english... it's a bit like trying to speak french, but really really fast |
| 09:27.10 | morsing | goibhniu: Uhmm... I'll hopefully be a british citizen within a year... |
| 09:27.30 | morsing | sabinef72: No language is easy for english people. They suck at languages |
| 09:28.14 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 09:28.31 | sabinef72 | is it for this reason, it's difficult for me to understand an english accent ? |
| 09:29.02 | sabinef72 | bilarh: do you speak french ? |
| 09:30.06 | bilarh | sabine: only very very little |
| 09:30.32 | bilarh | sabine: no, it's probably because it's quite likely that the english person you're speaking to is drunk :) |
| 09:34.06 | goibhniu | you know the way in the location bar in firefox on windows ctrl+arrow keys lets you jump words ... I wish I could do that :( |
| 09:35.16 | morsing | Biedo |
| 09:37.22 | sabinef72 | bilarh: no english people is speaking too quick for me |
| 09:37.34 | sabinef72 | bilarh: how come .... mozrat was drunk ?????? |
| 09:37.57 | bilarh | who's mozrat? |
| 09:38.19 | bilarh | have you been at the wine bottle already this morning? |
| 09:39.32 | sabinef72 | ask morsing |
| 09:39.45 | sabinef72 | bilarh: and I'm not drunk, I can't drink |
| 09:40.13 | bilarh | morsing: who's mozrat? |
| 09:40.25 | bilarh | sabine: ah yes... i forget so much nowadays :) |
| 09:41.09 | bilarh | to be fair, there's a bunch of english accents i still can't understand... |
| 09:41.23 | bilarh | the liverpool and manchester accents are hard |
| 09:41.34 | bilarh | as is the scottish one if it's too broad |
| 09:41.49 | bilarh | in fact, i'd say anything north of the watford stop gap is a bit hard :-) |
| 09:43.22 | morsing | bilarh: Huh? Are you trying to be funny? |
| 09:43.27 | bilarh | no |
| 09:43.28 | bilarh | i'm serious |
| 09:43.35 | bilarh | well, not all northern accents are hard |
| 09:43.37 | bilarh | but there are many that are |
| 09:43.55 | bilarh | e.g. a broad scouse accent is *really* hard to understand |
| 09:43.55 | bilarh | imo |
| 09:43.59 | bilarh | of course :) |
| 09:44.02 | morsing | bilarh: No I meant about mozrat? |
| 09:44.12 | morsing | How can you not know who mozrat is? |
| 09:44.20 | bilarh | who the hell is mozrat? |
| 09:44.37 | bilarh | are you just mis-spelling mozart? |
| 09:44.56 | morsing | Unbelieveable |
| 09:45.07 | morsing | bilarh: Have the checked the channel website? |
| 09:45.21 | bilarh | no? |
| 09:45.27 | bilarh | i just come here to argue :) |
| 09:46.31 | morsing | bilarh: http://silenceisdefeat.org/~mozrat/gllug/ |
| 09:47.20 | morsing | Ermmm... Actually, last generated on 15th of October? That's not right? |
| 09:47.29 | morsing | ping mozrat |
| 09:48.43 | bilarh | see, ibot's as confused as I am |
| 09:49.09 | bilarh | but now that i've seen the myspace-lite.com link i know that mozrat plays pool:P |
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| 10:13.22 | morsing | IAmAI! |
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| 10:32.34 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 10:34.08 | wethrin | hello |
| 10:46.03 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:46.16 | wethrin | hi |
| 11:05.54 | morsing | Where's Paul? |
| 11:06.34 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 11:07.22 | wethrin | yes? |
| 11:09.36 | morsing | You are driving a big, brick-like object along the motorway... |
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| 11:10.31 | bilarh | anyone got a blackberry 8800? |
| 11:10.32 | morsing | Where's Paul? |
| 11:10.32 | morsing | wethrin: Where's Paul? |
| 11:10.40 | morsing | trousers_! |
| 11:10.41 | wethrin | I ate him. With fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 11:12.55 | morsing | wethrin: Carla says she's not coming to my leaving do if we're going to the honey pot |
| 11:13.13 | wethrin | okaaay.... |
| 11:13.46 | morsing | wethrin: ? |
| 11:13.56 | wethrin | yes? |
| 11:14.02 | morsing | 12:13 < wethrin> okaaay.... |
| 11:14.24 | wethrin | Well, I don't know what the honey pot is, or where it is. Although I think there's one that's a pub in Oxford. |
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| 11:19.33 | morsing | The Honey Pot is a strip joint in Maidenhead. |
| 11:24.46 | morsing | Ok, going to the airport... |
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| 11:31.38 | trousers_ | morsing: What was that server hosting place, again... Red-something? |
| 11:33.46 | trousers_ | Redbus, that was it. |
| 11:35.40 | antiphase | Home of the power outage |
| 11:36.56 | wethrin | morsing: Have a good Easter! |
| 11:37.15 | wethrin | Hm. Looks like it's about time for me to head off |
| 12:16.36 | niv_one_three | this holiday is having wonders on my stomach |
| 12:44.19 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 12:44.44 | morsing | niv_one_three: Beer? |
| 12:44.47 | catalyst | morsing! |
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| 12:47.35 | morsing | I'm getting concerned for Paul |
| 12:47.56 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 12:58.15 | morsing | catalyst: Why is Paul not responding? |
| 12:59.10 | Cope | which paul? |
| 13:00.54 | morsing | Paul Rundle |
| 13:12.08 | Cope | oh |
| 13:16.19 | catalyst | umm |
| 13:16.23 | catalyst | bees |
| 13:18.47 | morsing | wasps |
| 13:20.00 | Cope | :) |
| 13:24.08 | Cope | sure |
| 13:36.04 | Cope | hmm |
| 13:48.40 | goibhniu | any good ppc live-cds? |
| 13:48.55 | goibhniu | preferably with a multimedia slant |
| 13:51.13 | morsing | yoink |
| 14:07.53 | hali | hm anyone in london happend to have a HP/Compaq ML350g3 spare power supply? |
| 14:22.13 | morsing | strawberry |
| 14:23.59 | goibhniu | triffids |
| 14:25.04 | sabinef72 | I'm back |
| 14:25.13 | morsing | :) |
| 14:25.29 | sabinef72 | :-) |
| 14:25.47 | sabinef72 | I have pictures to order for scrapbooking |
| 14:25.53 | sabinef72 | do you know scrapbooking ? |
| 14:26.20 | morsing | In what way? I think I do |
| 14:42.06 | bilarh | check out the picture from this swedish news paper: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/umea/story/0,2789,1039471,00.html |
| 14:44.01 | bilarh | apparently, that's what this artist does and has done since 2001... her art form is 'peeing in public' :P |
| 14:44.29 | goibhniu | bilarh: beautiful |
| 14:44.51 | bilarh | it is actually, but nevertheless it's causing a couple of raised eyebrows in northern sweden :) |
| 14:45.24 | catalyst | what |
| 14:46.04 | catalyst | they look like they're too busy pissing around :| |
| 14:46.15 | bilarh | goibhniu: they gave it a good shot in the 17th and 18th century, but then those pesky french and russian kings fought back :( |
| 14:46.38 | bilarh | actually, that's a spanish artist :) |
| 14:46.44 | bilarh | maybe i need to learn spanish after all |
| 14:49.15 | Cope | factoi |
| 14:49.16 | Cope | d |
| 14:59.28 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:02.08 | goibhniu | proportional representation |
| 15:18.29 | Cope | stv |
| 15:20.10 | morsing | gw280: You suck |
| 15:22.15 | bilarh | man it's so hot outside! |
| 15:22.23 | bilarh | i've just been out to have a cup of coffee outside |
| 15:55.24 | hali | it's warn and nice |
| 15:55.29 | hali | and lots of skimpy ladies :P |
| 15:55.47 | gw280 | hi Cope |
| 15:55.50 | hali | pub in soho on a day like this is my version of heaven! |
| 15:56.05 | hali | standing outside a shitty pub, drinking nice cold beer... |
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| 18:35.50 | gw280 | hmm |
| 18:50.04 | gregj | http://news.com.com/2061-11199_3-6173619.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news |
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| 19:42.55 | goibhniu | trousers_: why not do kernel dev? |
| 19:47.28 | goibhniu | I'm just listening to the latest tllts ... they're interviewing a kernel dev |
| 19:47.37 | goibhniu | apparently it's real easy to get into it these days |
| 19:47.43 | gw280 | so? |
| 19:48.02 | goibhniu | and trousers_ is looking for a challenge |
| 19:48.31 | gw280 | yes, you don't start your coding career by hacking low level C unless you want to go mad |
| 19:49.08 | goibhniu | trousers_ really wants to go mad |
| 19:49.35 | goibhniu | ~seen trousers_ |
| 19:50.07 | ibot | trousers_ is currently on #gllug (1h 23m 9s), last said: 'Redbus, that was it.'. |
| 19:50.17 | gw280 | besides, if you want to do kernel stuff I recommend you pick up a copy of tanenbaum and digest minix first |
| 19:51.45 | goibhniu | the reason I mention it is that this guy is saying there are avenues for noobs ... I wouldn't have considered it approachable myself |
| 19:52.47 | gw280 | and by newbies he probably means new to kernel stuff, not new to programming. |
| 19:52.49 | goibhniu | he also says there is lots of cash in it ... and you can work in your pyjamas |
| 19:55.55 | goibhniu | that sounds right ... http://kernelnewbies.org/CompleteNewbiesClickHere ... seems to assume prior knowledge |
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