IRC log for #gllug on 20070415

00:34.41z00daxhali: did we ?
00:35.02z00daxmorsing: people will do that to add a personal touch
00:35.32z00daxits quite common to greet a group of people in more than 1 language, specially when you know there are people who will greet you back in different ones :)
00:35.34z00daxwethrin: !
00:36.20clive-hI only speak english and gibberish
00:36.39clive-hI can read French
00:39.55clive-hlol
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00:43.45kant_hi everyone
00:44.19z00daxclive-h: beer later today ?
00:44.54clive-hyeah good call
00:45.33z00daxearly evening sometime ?
00:45.53clive-hyep sounds good
00:45.59z00daxI m going to be online from about 14:00hrs on.... so maybe we can just sync online and then head out
00:46.02z00daxcool
00:46.23clive-hI'll be around afternoon
00:47.34z00daxabsolutely, gota get some sleep as well
00:47.58clive-hyep here too
01:07.14kant_nite guys
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05:59.13morsingz00dax: Thanks
05:59.19morsingclive-h! What happened?
06:01.53morsingAnyone up?
06:20.35morsinghali?
07:00.55Leedstime to go offline and move...
07:01.32morsingLeeds: Nice
07:01.38morsingSo you were up then...
07:01.46Leedsbeen up for many hours, of course
07:01.54Leedsjust not been hanging around IRC
07:02.17gw280moo
07:02.29morsingGeorge!
07:02.31Leedsseeya on the other side...
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09:30.46JosefAssadmorsing!
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09:55.42haliz00dax: in the release notes i pasted
10:04.33haliembarasing, centos 5 in vmware is faster on my core2duo laptop than on my amd 3200+ desktop :)
10:04.41halinative on the desktop that is
10:06.36Provitohali, which laptop do you have?
10:06.54haliProvito: dell inspiron 6400, with a core2duo t7200 cpu
10:07.10haliwith that new VT extension
10:07.14ProvitoI've been looking into ultra portable laptops with dual core, looking at the panasonic R6 at the moment
10:07.23halithe 6400 is far from ultra portable :(
10:07.32haliit's 15.4" and about 2.8kg
10:07.41JosefAssadhow much would an ultraportable weigh?
10:07.44Provitohali, yep I've already got larger laptops but ideally want a 10-11" screen with a usable keyboard
10:07.57haliProvito: i like the lush red samsung :)
10:08.01Provitohttp://www.dynamism.com/r6/main.shtml
10:08.22ProvitoJosefAssad, the R6 is 0.9kg
10:08.32JosefAssadsweet
10:08.36JosefAssadI thought mine was light...
10:08.45Provitowaterproof keyboard as well
10:09.49JosefAssadMy asus is 1.7 kg
10:10.10Provitowhat screen size?
10:10.14JosefAssadbut then, it is my primary machine so I don't think anything lighter would do (smaller screen, keyboard, etc)
10:10.50Provitooh no this wouldn't be my primary one, just one bigger than my pda
10:10.50haliProvito: ibm/levovo has got a great deal on the x41 if you can live with "old centrino"
10:10.50Provitoin between my pc laptop and my macbook pro
10:11.07Provitohali, 12.1" is a bit big
10:11.08JosefAssad1.7 kg is an acceptable compromise for now between usability and portability (I travel a fecking lot)
10:11.33Provitohali, cheap though for sure, ~500 gbp
10:12.16haliyep
10:12.44haliProvito: seen the new oqo?
10:12.51haliif you _Really_ want it portable
10:13.03ProvitoI need a usable keyboard to touch type
10:13.19ProvitoI prefer a pda and a bluetooth foldaway keyboard would be better, I've already got that setup
10:13.50ProvitoJosefAssad, no rj11 and rj45 ports though :(
10:14.20Provitohali, I think I'm going to import in the r6 unless something comes on the market within the next few weeks
10:15.15JosefAssadany of these newfangled umpcs work with linux?
10:15.52JosefAssadwhat would work nicely would be using t9 from a bluetooth rnabled cell phone to type on my tungsten T|X... pipe dream
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11:09.30morsingJosefAssad!
11:10.39JosefAssadFrank!
11:27.53niv_one_threeany sed gurus? how to tell sed to replace "# accel:" in all files in /path/to ?
11:29.00JosefAssadreplace with?
11:33.02haliperl -pi -e 's/# accel:/i love dogs/' filename*
11:34.40halior you can use the replace command
11:34.51haliwhich requires a bit of a find loop
11:37.17halised -e would probably do it to
11:37.20halitake your pick :)
11:56.24clive-hGah
11:56.57clive-hI had my wallet pickpocketted on the bus
11:57.33halichavs i take it?
11:57.52clive-hSeems likely
11:58.02clive-hI didn't see who got it
11:59.39clive-hReported it to my bank so cards are cancelled
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12:41.31z00daxhali: what deal on the x41 ?
12:42.11z00daxI've just picked up my dads hp tc4400, need to replace that with something for him - the x41 would be good..
12:42.12clive-hHi z00dax : I can't make it today, no money, had my wallet pinched earlier
12:42.25z00daxclive-h: :( that sux
12:42.56clive-hcan't get any money till the bank opens tomorrow
12:49.15z00daxruby ?
12:49.18clive-hWetherspoons allegedly offer 30 mins free with every drink
12:49.28clive-hof wifi access
12:49.29z00daxfree what ?
12:49.30z00daxah
12:49.37z00daxwhere is this ? bexleyheath ?
12:49.59clive-hIt's what is says on wikipedia
12:50.02clive-hit
12:50.21clive-hI like the wrong 'un in bexleyheath
12:50.37clive-hBetter than the wetherspoons in the market place
12:50.47z00daxmarket place  where ?
12:51.06clive-hBexleyheath
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12:51.34clive-hThere's a wetherspoons adjacent to the square
12:51.53clive-hThe wrong 'un is further down the broadway
12:53.13z00daxright, yes
12:53.20z00daxits been a while since i was at bexleyheath
12:53.46z00daxwent down to dartford yesterday, and realised that it had been about 5 months since I was there last :0
12:55.16clive-hLol
12:55.34clive-hI had lunch in the Paper Moon in Dartford on Friday
12:55.58clive-hThough no alcohol
13:12.43JosefAssadsweet; Alonso 5th
13:16.23z00daxLeeds: hey
13:17.11Leedsz00dax: congrats
13:17.18z00daxyay!
13:17.24Leedskeep seeing your name this week :-)
13:17.37z00daxthat could be a good thing, or a bad thing :)
13:18.33LeedsJosefAssad: uh... you know where my neighbourhood is...
13:19.23JosefAssadLeeds: yes, and that was me sifting through your garbage too. Thanks for not shredding that credit card
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15:11.55haliz00dax: http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ThinkPad_X41_US2F8UK/version-1.asp £507 for a decent spec
15:12.49haliz00dax: the same place has got a good deal on t43p if you want a slightly bigger machine with more umphf
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15:23.37Cope_ibot seen Cope
15:24.01ibotcope <n=sanelson@88.212.149.148> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4d 17h 43m 21s ago, saying: 'tom!'.
16:02.38goibhniuLeeds: thanks for that tip on yubnub .. endless hours of fun ... I've replaced the default google search on firefox with it thanks to http://blog.vertebratesilence.com/tag/yubnub/
16:10.59morsinggoibhniu!
16:11.03morsingCope_!
16:29.05morsingping
16:33.01goibhniumorsing what are you doing?
16:36.03morsingTrying to find that TV ad for Cuprinol where they're all laughing
16:36.09morsingBut I can't :(
16:36.15Leedsgoibhniu: I did that months ago :-)
16:36.24z00daxhali: looks good
16:37.41morsinggoibhniu: Can you help?
16:38.13goibhniuLeeds: I thought that would be enough to change it in vimperator, but I had to go and edit the js for that .. pretty easy though
16:39.13morsinggoibhniu?
16:41.58goibhniumorsing :o yt cuprinol
16:42.24goibhniuit only has three
16:44.06goibhniumorsing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6yyZY9L-LE has a lot of laughing in it
16:46.33morsingThat's the one - Cool :)
16:47.11morsingNo - wait. It's not!
16:47.20morsingI'm after the one with the dog...
16:48.42haliz00dax: did you find any duval?
16:48.51morsinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRnVWahfZJg
16:49.43goibhniumorsing: is that you?
16:49.49z00daxhali: not in the area locally, but waitrose do it, so picked upsome duvel
16:50.01goibhniumorsing: what are you doing with your hands?
16:52.04morsingTyping
16:54.14morsingWhy is that ad not on the Internet?
16:56.20haliugh, kernltrap is down again :(
16:56.38morsinghali: Can you find it?
16:57.00haliand it appears that use the root user for their webapp, very naughty
16:57.48morsingrhowe: Can you find it?
16:58.02rhowemorsing: Yup, it's all on the floor in front of me
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16:59.13halihmm, need to sniff around all the weird 3rd party kernel patches rhel5 has got
16:59.28morsingrhowe: Can you send a link please then
16:59.31morsingJosefAssad!
16:59.36haliespecially what state o_direct is in
17:00.11rhowemorsing: Email has gone to the list
17:01.09morsingHuh?
17:02.03rhowemorsing: I sent a list of kit to the mailing list
17:03.06morsingNo not that!
17:04.19z00daxrhowe: not joking when you say old hardware, are you
17:09.48morsingNice
17:09.57clive-hMy oldest usuable hardware is either a SS5 or a SMP PII/350
17:11.31z00daxhumm my oldest usable hardware is a compaq laptop - i think its a 1200s ( K6-2, 550Mhz, 192Megs of ram and a 4 gig hdd )
17:11.43z00daxhave not booted it in a while, maybe i will do that today later
17:12.27clive-hI have a p166 233Mhz compaq with 64Mb and 2GB disjk
17:12.45clive-hIt's not exactly useful
17:13.23clive-hWhen I had a friend staying here it was getting 0wned about every two days
17:13.37z00daxmy k6 used to be the firewall for a long long time, then i just replaced it with a £22 noname .tw made thing that seems to be routing the bits a little bit faster
17:13.37clive-hBut she'd only use windows
17:14.17clive-hI had a p133 as a firewall for a while
17:14.36clive-hThe ADSL modem failed regularly though
17:14.51clive-hI was very happy to move to a proper router
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17:42.19morsingLeedsHK!
17:56.25rhowez00dax: heh, nope
17:56.45rhoweMy desktop is...
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17:57.04rhowea 450MHz K6 :)
17:59.36clive-hThat's fairly legacy
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18:22.58Cope_hello rhowe
18:28.06morsingmozrat!
18:28.09morsingCope_!
18:35.04rhoweevening, Cope
18:35.11morsingrhowe!
18:35.25rhowehey morsing
18:35.42rhowebrb
18:35.45morsingNice
18:50.42morsingCheck it?
19:16.14morsing*yawn*
19:28.44morsingBeer
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21:32.11rhowehm, dovecot 1.0 is out
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22:32.23wethrinhello
22:38.36z00daxgoto sleep
22:39.57wethrinsleep: label not found
22:44.48z00daxI am just way too overloaded at the moment
22:44.58wethrinLikewise
22:45.16wethrinI'm off to Athens on Thursday, then a busy few months (specially weekend-wise)
22:45.29wethrinBring back mozrat!
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22:47.10JAVhi
22:47.15z00daxmozrat: !!!
22:47.18z00daxJAV: hi
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23:36.42rhoweJust did a sarge->etch upgrade on my mail server, which is an alpha running exim, dovecot, SA, clamav, bind, dhcp, etc
23:36.45rhoweflawless
23:37.08rhoweOK, so dovecot's changed its configuration syntax quite a lot, but aside from that it was a cinch
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23:53.13z00daxrhowe: what were you expecting to break ?
23:53.29z00daxalso, what kernel+glibc did you move from and to
23:55.58rhowez00dax: libc6 to libc6.1
23:56.07rhowez00dax: Haven't changed the kernel
23:56.27rhowez00dax: I was expecting at least some trouble from exim or dovecot
23:56.43rhowez00dax: Or just random bugs in the alpha port
23:56.48z00daxexim is quite nice, mostly
23:58.06rhowehm, now on glibc 2.3.6. Not sure what I was on before

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