IRC log for #gllug on 20070420

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06:21.44morsingLeeds!
06:26.09morsingLeeds?
07:40.59morsingLeeds!!!!!!!!!11
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08:29.51morsinggoibhniu!
08:31.17goibhniumorsing!
08:39.46morsingI have a dream that one day this Company will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all mugs are created equal."
08:54.20Leedsmorsing: like... coffee-holders?
08:58.49goibhniuLeeds: maybe this job is something for you http://tinyurl.com/2rp9sh "Python? Passionate about Open Source development?"
09:00.43Leedsgoibhniu: thanks... but I really don't have any interest in working in the UK
09:01.01goibhniubut it says 99% from home
09:01.02Leedsif I had to guess, I'd say it was canonical
09:01.23Leedshmm... that is a good point
09:01.39goibhniuyou could make 4 gllug meetings a year!
09:02.15Leedsit's still an issue though, because of the visa question - can't live here indefinitely without a visa
09:02.36goibhniuLeeds: you're not married yet!?
09:03.14Leedsha ha
09:05.45morsingLeeds: Someone stole Russell's mug and he's having a fit about it
09:05.55morsingMe car passed it's MOT :)
09:06.54cpufreakthe 635?
09:07.41bilarhand mine has just had its insurance job authorized LD
09:07.42bilarh:D
09:07.53bilarhonly two and a half months after the idiot scraped my bumper
09:08.12bilarhbut more importantly, the wife's agreed to let me buy a td05-18g :D
09:08.18bilarh350bhp here we come :)
09:10.51cpufreakdid you get your money back yet?
09:11.02cpufreakfor the other one you bought?
09:11.11cpufreaka friend who is a porsche tuner is writing code for my car
09:11.22cpufreakand I accidentally bought a 2nd car the other day
09:17.01bilarhcpufreak: nah, it's like getting blood out of a stone
09:17.10bilarhcpufreak: never mind, i'm moving on
09:17.30bilarhcpufreak: no point taking him to court either, the police said he was in loads of debt
09:17.53cpufreakmy origingal suggestion of him being a crack addict makes more sense then
09:18.14bilarhyeah :)
09:18.21bilarhnever mind, i live and learn :)
09:25.28bilarhcpufreak: what second car did you accidentically buy?
09:25.37cpufreak1995 E36 M3 GT
09:25.47bilarh2 m3's :D
09:25.52cpufreakyeh
09:25.54cpufreakboth special editions
09:26.01cpufreakthis one will become my track bitch
09:26.15cpufreakhas lightweight alu doors already
09:26.23cpufreakso will fit lightweight bonnet, bootlid
09:26.25cpufreakstrip the interior
09:26.28cpufreakremove aircon
09:26.30cpufreakfit rollcage
09:26.37cpufreakkw v3 with ajdustable top mount suspension
09:26.45cpufreakuprated arbs, rtabs, and wishbones
09:26.54cpufreakrebuild the engine + gearbox
09:27.06cpufreakand fit bigger brakes
09:27.24bilarhexcellent stuff :)
09:27.36antiphaseSupercharge it
09:27.42bilarhdo you think it will be quicker around the track than the csl?
09:28.18cpufreakit has 295bhp standard
09:28.23cpufreakand weighs 1420kg standard
09:28.32cpufreakcsl has 360bhp standard, and weighs 1379kg
09:28.51bilarhah, but with a bit of weight saving you'll be down to 1300 anyway :)
09:28.53cpufreakI reckon I'll be able to take about 120-130kg out of the e36
09:29.06bilarhyeah probably
09:29.06cpufreakand it'll have better suspension
09:29.13bilarhso it should be quicker :)
09:29.15bilarhwhat about brakes?
09:29.19cpufreakand once I've rebuilt the engine with trick cams, should have ~320bhp
09:29.22bilarhmove the alcons across :)
09:29.26cpufreaki wont fit as big a brakes as my APs to it
09:29.33bilarhah sorry, ap's
09:29.33cpufreakwant brakes which will fit under 17" wheels
09:29.44cpufreakso I can run cheaper tyres
09:29.47bilarhthing is, 17" should be alright surely as well
09:30.02bilarhi mean, you should be able to get like at least 335mm brakes underneath there
09:30.07cpufreakmy brakes are 380mm, they barely fit under 18" :)
09:30.33bilarhi've got 335 but i've still got a bit of clearance under 17" wheels
09:30.45bilarhi'd say 350 is the definite maximum i could get away with though
09:30.58bilarhto have a bit of space for the caliper as well
09:31.13bilarhis the ring hard on the brakes?
09:31.36cpufreaknot very
09:31.43cpufreakbut I drive it quite hard now
09:31.55bilarhwhat's your PB out of interest?
09:32.06cpufreakI did a set of tyres in 40 laps, and a set of pads in just over 60 laps
09:32.29cpufreakwhich is why the CSL is not economical to run there everyweekend
09:32.41cpufreaksomething lighter, and with cheaper consumables makes more sense
09:32.44bilarhyeah that must cost a bomb :)
09:32.45cpufreakerm, I don't time
09:32.49cpufreakoccasionally passengers time
09:32.50bilarhok :)
09:32.59cpufreaklow 8 minutes
09:33.06cpufreaklike 8:06 was the best someone timed me at
09:33.07bilarhdamn, that's really quite good
09:33.13cpufreakbut there was traffic
09:34.01bilarhcool :)
09:34.23cpufreaklast weekend was playing with a friend - they were driving their brand new 997 GT3 RS
09:34.30cpufreakso I told them I'd follow and try and keep up
09:34.31bilarhdidn't the r34 skyline do it in 8 something as well with a professional driver?
09:35.20cpufreakthe lap record for a 'production car' was 7 mins 15, in an EDO tuned 996 GT2
09:35.41bilarhon road tyres?
09:35.50cpufreakon road legal tyres yes
09:36.00cpufreakprobably michelin cups like I run
09:36.11bilarhhmm
09:36.17bilarhseems i need to sell a kidney :)
09:36.26cpufreakhttp://www.michelinman.com/images/ts-dl/catalog/tires/large/pilot_sport_cup.jpg
09:36.34bilarhi really want to go to the ring some day, but need to sort the car out first
09:36.44bilarhalthough i imagine i could have fun down there in a 1.4 clio if i went :)
09:37.17cpufreakyou can rent cars
09:37.21cpufreakfrom rent-racecar.de
09:37.29bilarhcool :D
09:37.35cpufreakevne their 140bhp 318ti is amusing
09:37.44cpufreakas its got trick suspension and sticky tyres
09:37.57bilarhyeah i mean i've never been on a track before, so it would probably be fun in anything :)
09:38.54phearlesshi everybody !
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09:39.10bilarhgreetings, phearless
09:43.53Leedshi Dr. Nick!
09:59.03bilarhblimey... rent-racecar.de is only 360 euros for a day including insurance :D
10:08.15Leedsibot change 360 eur to hkd
10:13.56morsingJasperw!
10:34.47morsingbilarh: How are you?
10:35.46bilarhmorsing: well cool? :P
10:36.13bilarhmorsing: yourself?
10:36.13morsingbilarh: My car passed the MOT this morning. Wheel's still on - yay :)
10:36.23bilarhexcellent :D
10:46.27morsingI am good dressed as a woman
10:46.27bilarhbonus
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11:19.54morsingIAmAI!
11:20.03IAmAIHello
11:20.31IAmAIHas something just happened?
11:20.55morsingAttention everyone: Russell's mug is still missing!
11:23.14Leedsmorsing: why did you steal russell's mug?
11:24.02morsingI didn't but this has become a major issue at attenda. There's a protest march this evening with candles
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11:35.08morsingdick_turpin!
11:35.33morsing~seen sabinef72
11:35.57ibotsabinef72 is currently on #gllug (2d 6h 19m 42s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 25m 9s, last said: 'morsing: nice '.
11:36.03dick_turpinmorsing: I got y arse thrashed last night play craps on an ibot with some dubiuos Americans
11:36.11dick_turpinmy
11:36.14sabinef72yes ?
11:37.53dick_turpingoibhniu: Achtung!
11:38.56morsingdick_turpin: ?
11:39.04morsingsabinef72: I missed you
11:39.05goibhniuheilige dick_turpin, ich gruss dick
11:39.17dick_turpinmorsing: Wadda ya mean ?
11:39.48dick_turpingoibhniu: Them Americans cleaned me out last night playing craps with their bot
11:40.34goibhniudick_turpin: never trust an american, especially an american bot
11:41.23goibhniudick_turpin: should I boycott all projects that use jira/confluence?
11:41.27dick_turpingoibhniu: Its called TobshaBamai its pretty rubbish not as good as ours
11:41.56goibhniuibot: there's a bot that more stupider that you!
11:42.59sabinef72how are you morsing ?
11:43.02dick_turpingoibhniu: I know I tried talking to it but the memmbers kept say "Oh it cant do that" and there was me hoping to impress
11:43.11dick_turpinmembers
11:43.12sabinef72I was doing some paper.... stupid and complicate papers
11:45.08dick_turpinboudiccas: sossidgeeeeeess
11:45.09goibhniudick_turpin: did you lose anything important or was it just the house and family again?
11:45.35morsingsabinef72: I'm good thanks :)  And it's Friday. How are you?
11:45.55dick_turpingoibhniu: I know the white slave traders are still after me for the last time
11:46.00sabinef72I'm ok thank you
11:46.32morsingsabinef72: Are you happy?
11:50.28sabinef72of course
11:51.02morsing:)
11:53.47sabinef72I'll go out in few minuts
11:53.47sabinef72I saw nice tulips in a park and I would like pictures
11:55.50morsing:)
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11:57.13dick_turpinanyone up for educating me?
11:57.27morsingceronman!
11:57.34ceronmanhey morsing
11:59.02dick_turpinI get this now and again Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to dick_turpin) from freenode-connect whats it mean?
12:00.15clive-hIt's checking the version of your IRC client
12:00.43dick_turpinclive-h: OK, whats checking?
12:03.34halihmm, problems with LINX, anyone know about it?
12:08.13cpufreak12:55 -!- RobL [robl@*****.linx.net] has joined #*****
12:08.14cpufreak13:07 <@cpufreak> RobL: what did you break? :p
12:08.21cpufreakwill lety ou know when I get a reply.
12:10.57clive-herrrk
12:21.16morsingBeer
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12:53.49morsingclive-h!
12:54.24clive-hHi morsing
12:54.29Leedsmplayer++
13:03.09morsingLeeds++
13:03.14morsingMartin O'dell++
13:05.00clive-hwho?
13:07.19morsingIBM engineer I hadn't seen in four years
13:11.10morsingclive-h: Do you know him?
13:12.20clive-hNo I come from an ICL mainframe background
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13:58.50goibhniuhi innerarc, any luck today?
14:00.04innerarcsame problems as yesterday
14:00.53innerarcthe annoying thing is i can now access the www now and again, ie 5% of the time
14:01.07innerarcirc all the time
14:01.27innerarccan ping sites
14:01.47goibhniuinnerarc: ahh ... that's good ... clive-h was thinking there could be some funny aol magic going on behind the scenes
14:02.12goibhniuinnerarc: maybe setting dns servers on your machine will help
14:04.44innerarci really want to get away from window$, so i will get this thing working one way or another.
14:07.17goibhniuinnerarc: have a look at system/administration/networking from the menu
14:07.26haliubuntu is quite nice
14:07.28haliand brown
14:07.41halibut it's great, in the same sense that the movie "the brown bunny" is good
14:07.49halithe graphical scenes make it worth it :P
14:08.41goibhniudick_turpin: it's caramel!
14:08.54dick_turpingoibhniu: Its pooh colour
14:09.39goibhniudick_turpin: do you poo toffee?
14:10.14dick_turpingoibhniu: I'll pooh watever you like if you pay me enough
14:10.19boudiccassossidges
14:11.15dick_turpinboudiccas: Hi
14:11.30innerarcsorry later need to go thaor your helpnks f
14:12.09boudiccasanyone care to translate what inner arc said please? :)
14:12.18boudiccasdick_turpin; huyas :)
14:12.28goibhniuI don't know ... but I like it
14:12.42goibhniuinnerarc can have my helpnks anytime
14:12.49boudiccaslol
14:12.58dick_turpinboudiccas: I've got his chicken kiev I'm trying to off load..........
14:13.19boudiccascook it in the microwave, 30 mniutes each side
14:13.40boudiccaswhen its starts smoking you know its done
14:13.51dick_turpinboudiccas: I've heard its much tastier flash fried or blanched
14:14.20boudiccaswhat sort of ghost or horror story are you going to tell it to get it to blanch?
14:14.42clive-hThat'd be well handy
14:15.34boudiccasand doesn't 'flash frying' involve passing electric currant through the chicken to cook it?
14:15.54clive-hThat sounds impractical
14:16.14boudiccasdepends how high the currant is
14:16.18clive-hI thought flash frying might involve a deep fat fryer
14:16.41boudiccasmight do, i'm not sure
14:16.51boudiccascooking is not my forte
14:18.05clive-h'A flash fryer is a deep frying device commonly used in commercial kitchens, although some home cooks utilize small versions. The flash fryer is designed to heat oil to high temperatures and to keep the temperature stable throughout service so that it can be used continually throughout the night. In some kitchens, the demand on the flash fryer can be quite heavy, and multiple flash fryers are sometimes installed to ensure consistent preparation of food.'
14:18.23dick_turpinbDid you see that science program done by the bloke of Top Gear where he cooked and egg with 300 mobile phones?
14:18.38clive-hNor mine though I am trying to learn
14:20.37Leedsdick_turpin: brainiac?
14:20.48dick_turpinLeeds: Thats the one
14:21.22wethrinyou do, morsing
14:21.43morsingwethrin!
14:21.48wethrinhi
14:21.51morsingwethrin: You've been quiet today
14:22.01wethrinI've not been in front of a computer
14:22.08morsingWhy not?!?
14:22.23wethrinBecause I've been in a cleanroom and stuff
14:22.32wethrinIRC's overrated :)
14:23.02morsingIs there anything outside IRC?#
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14:23.53wethrinthe pub...
14:25.34LeedspubIRC
14:26.57morsing<PROTECTED>
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14:42.59morsingboudicca!
14:43.01morsings!
14:47.56morsingHow do I check number of open file handles on Solaris?
14:50.30morsingLeeds?
15:00.28bilarhlsof | wc -l
15:01.13morsinglsof hangs...
15:01.28bilarhnumber of open files for what btw
15:01.36bilarhin total, for a specific process or what?
15:01.37bilarhuser?
15:01.44bilarhpr-something?
15:01.46bilarhpfiles isn't it
15:02.33bilarhpfiles <pid>
15:02.44bilarhor pfiles -F
15:02.47bilarhfor all procs
15:02.47morsingpfiles * doesn't work
15:02.53bilarhno of course it doesnt :P
15:02.55bilarhit's a pid, not a file
15:02.57antiphaseOr lsof, and use some patience
15:03.09morsingLike an hour?
15:03.23antiphaseYou must have a lot of open files...
15:03.29morsingantiphase: I think...
15:04.32bilarhdo pfiles -F
15:04.41bilarhi'm telling you, boy, and do you listen? No! :)
15:04.54clive-hlsof -n will finish quick enough
15:04.55bilarhoh actyually
15:05.06bilarhpfiles -F doesn't show all procs
15:05.34morsingclive-h: Well, not yet...
15:05.45bilarhis the box dying?
15:05.54bilarhi've had problems with lsof taking yonks too
15:06.01clive-hI don't have pfiles on linux
15:06.06bilarhtry straceing it to see if it's actually doing anything?
15:06.16clive-hIt'd be slow if it was waiting on IO
15:06.24clive-hLike a dead disk
15:06.42bilarhbut lsof doesn't read stuff of the disk surely, it must all be read from kernel structures in memory?
15:07.05clive-hYeah should be in core
15:07.36halione ugly hack could be for a in /proc/*; do  ls -1 ${a}/fd/; done | wc -l
15:07.44cpufreakuhh
15:07.48halibut that would include 0,1 and 2 as well
15:07.49cpufreakvile people
15:07.51cpufreakkstat is yoru friend.
15:08.57clive-hHmmmm this reminds me I should install a solaris instance here
15:09.24halikstat -n file_cache -s buf_inuse looks alright for just files
15:10.37morsingCompleted now. 985
15:10.41morsingbilarh: No
15:10.51antiphaseIs the mailing list todged today, or has the Hitler that manages it configured it to remove people just because their mail is undeliverable for a few hours?
15:11.16cpufreakHitler-- # only had one ball
15:11.44halimy for hack is probably wrong
15:11.50antiphaseHitler's mum-- # cut the other one off
15:14.10antiphasehttp://lists.gllug.org.uk/ returns a proxy error
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15:16.32morsingclive-h!
15:23.09clive-hhi morsing
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15:26.30morsinggeospart!
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16:04.38geospartLinux
16:04.51geospartall the way
16:05.13geospart<PROTECTED>
16:06.35geospartof course I have two windows machines for my online schooling ... but everything else is linux
16:06.42geospartsuse 10.2 on this beast
16:09.32goibhniugeospart: I was wondering because when you join the channel we see .. geospart [n=root@adsl-156-208-247.clt.bellsouth.net] entered the room.
16:09.45geospartahhh
16:09.47goibhniudoesn't that mean you're running your irc client as root?
16:10.01geospartnope
16:10.15geospartmeans I left root as the name in the freaken gaim client
16:10.21goibhniudoh, silly me :)
16:10.59goibhniuwhat's the weather like over there?
16:11.05geospartits sunny
16:11.17geospartand mid 60's f
16:12.03geospartrule #1 never import your gaim client settings from root...ha
16:14.12Leedsf?
16:16.08geospartFahrenheit
16:18.39Leedsyes, I know what it is :-)
16:18.59Leedsjust don't know why anyone would use it
16:21.24geosparttrue
16:21.50geospartI guess I was in a brit room and did not want you to think everyone was boiling here
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17:26.04bilarhoh no, how embarrassing! http://youtube.com/watch?v=TsgrEcwvx1k
17:26.10bilarhif you've got a subaru at least :P
18:32.41wethrintum te tum
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18:54.24kjalilmorsing: hi, what's up?
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19:25.16morsingcatalyst!
19:25.34catalystmorsing!
19:25.36catalysthow goes?
19:25.48morsingGreat :)
19:25.52catalystcool :)
19:25.59morsingSomeone's coming to view my car tomorrow
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19:27.50morsingdick_turpin!
19:28.17dick_turpinmorsing, I've got beer
19:28.31morsingNice :)
19:28.36morsingI've got sossidges
19:29.07dick_turpinnot really its Jamaica Red Stripe (very cheap)
19:32.43dick_turpinOoh faillure's back then? (or at least was)
19:33.02dick_turpinfailure
19:39.17boudiccasaah, beer!
19:40.05clive-hbeer++
19:40.37boudiccasi like fosters :)
19:40.44morsingMmm... Cawfy
19:41.01clive-hexport?
19:41.12boudiccasdon't think so
19:41.30clive-hstandard fosters is onl 4%
19:41.32dick_turpinOh so thats how its is it? I take my eye off the ball for to minutes and you all start yapping :-P
19:41.34clive-honly
19:41.46Leedsblah blah blah
19:42.08clive-hI like premium lager
19:42.14clive-hTastes better
19:42.17boudiccasit may only be 4% but it tastes nice and i like its taste :)
19:43.33morsingLeeds! You're here!
19:44.22boudiccasLeeds; in spirit as well as body
19:45.29Leedssleep time...
19:46.07dick_turpinLeeds, No your young you can hack it
19:47.09Leedsit's nearly 4am!
19:47.13morsingYuck
19:47.36dick_turpinLeeds, In that case its not worth going to bed
19:48.14Leedssure it is - just sleep until noon
19:48.37dick_turpinLeeds, Ooh you dirty stay in bed
19:51.17Leedszzzzzzzzz
19:53.03dick_turpinhang on
19:54.29boudiccastoo late he's zzzzzing
19:56.59dick_turpinbum, here's the terrible effects of sleep deprivation on Leeds http://images.centrosales.co.uk/General/ugly-man.png
20:29.08morsingboudiccas: How are you?
20:36.13boudiccasmorsing; i'm very well ty. how is two-sheds? :)
20:37.06morsingTwoSheds happy enough but he sat a really though 4 hour exam today and won't get the result for 3 weeks
20:37.23morsingAnd he hasn't done an exam in a long time :)
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20:40.23morsingceronman!
20:41.01ceronmanmorsing!
20:50.44clive-hOh dammit ZFS not licensed compatibility with the GPL
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