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| 01:06.56 | rhowe | ibot change 20 skk to gbp |
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| 03:04.28 | ranner | anyone still up / on a different time some who fancies helping my sleepy (14 hours sleep in the last 100) brain get a c socket to behave? |
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| 06:33.33 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 06:38.37 | clive-h | Morning morsing |
| 06:41.15 | resudaed | does anyone understand wpa_supplicant? |
| 07:32.51 | morsing | Beer |
| 07:33.12 | boudiccas | too early |
| 07:33.21 | boudiccas | coffee |
| 07:34.23 | morsing | Mmm... BMW |
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| 07:39.01 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 07:39.10 | clive-h | Hi again |
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| 07:48.08 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
| 07:53.21 | morsing | SlayerXP? |
| 07:53.25 | SlayerXP | yes? |
| 07:56.34 | morsing | SlayerXP: How are you? |
| 07:57.34 | SlayerXP | well, i don't have a severe headache, so that's a win |
| 07:57.45 | morsing | Nice |
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| 08:32.53 | LeedsTreo | well... not a done deal, but getting there... |
| 08:33.45 | morsing | LeedsTreo! |
| 08:33.50 | morsing | LeedsTreo: Congrats :) |
| 08:33.54 | morsing | Happier now? |
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| 08:34.01 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
| 08:34.24 | LeedsTreo | yes... might be much happier tomorrow... |
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| 08:36.29 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 08:40.05 | clive-h | Hi morsing |
| 08:40.32 | clive-h | Wireless is a pain under FC6 |
| 08:44.07 | morsing | Wireless is always a pain |
| 08:44.22 | cpufreak | wireless works perfectly on osx |
| 08:46.40 | sabinef72 | morning |
| 08:51.05 | clive-h | I'm sure it does on osx |
| 08:51.19 | cpufreak | so use osx then |
| 08:51.21 | clive-h | But the apple tax hurts |
| 08:51.29 | cpufreak | not when its free |
| 08:52.03 | bilarh | morning |
| 08:52.07 | clive-h | free? |
| 08:52.22 | cpufreak | yes |
| 08:52.30 | cpufreak | as in my mac book pro cost me nothing |
| 08:52.38 | clive-h | I've a desktop pc running OS X |
| 08:52.50 | clive-h | But that's wired to the lan |
| 08:53.01 | SlayerXP | i sent off 3 macbooks to be repaired the day before yeterday, and another on the way out |
| 08:53.17 | SlayerXP | 2 dead hard disks, one that simply wouldn' boot. |
| 08:53.21 | cpufreak | we've got >100 MBPs here |
| 08:53.26 | cpufreak | they're fine |
| 08:53.32 | cpufreak | mixture of core duo + core2duo |
| 08:53.35 | clive-h | I installed OS X on a similar laptop |
| 08:53.42 | SlayerXP | "Just to let you know that my new machine, (was Katriens), makes ridiculously loud noises most of the time. |
| 08:53.43 | SlayerXP | As far as I can tell it's the fans coming on and off, plus the bottom of the machine gets very hot. |
| 08:53.43 | SlayerXP | As far as I am aware this is a common complaint with the new MBP's. |
| 08:53.43 | SlayerXP | Personally I can live with it, although after a while I do start to get a headache if it goes on too long, but just thought you should be aware. |
| 08:53.43 | SlayerXP | " |
| 08:53.55 | morsing | Does Skype work with Linux? |
| 08:53.56 | clive-h | but it would only run OS X on the external VGA |
| 08:54.01 | cpufreak | morsing: yes |
| 08:54.04 | SlayerXP | morsing: yes. |
| 08:54.04 | clive-h | There's a linux skype |
| 08:54.12 | cpufreak | SlayerXP: are you doing desktop support? :o |
| 08:54.22 | SlayerXP | cpufreak: only to this extent: |
| 08:54.27 | SlayerXP | "For your comfort and convenience Apple have decided not to deal with hardware issues themselves. Should you wish to have someone look at your Mac you will need to take it along to your nearest Apple Authorised Repair Centre who will then, probably, take several weeks to sort your machine out. |
| 08:54.27 | SlayerXP | http://www.mrsystems.co.uk/about_us.htm |
| 08:54.27 | SlayerXP | Sincerely, |
| 08:54.27 | SlayerXP | The IBM ThinkPad-using Systems Team. " |
| 08:54.50 | clive-h | haha |
| 08:55.51 | clive-h | I hated the stinkpad I had to use at one contract |
| 08:57.12 | SlayerXP | One of the whiteboard upstairs has a "Days Since Last Mac Failure" tally. |
| 08:57.13 | clive-h | But in all fairness most laptop problems can be sorted with an external keyboard,trackball and tft MONITOR |
| 08:57.21 | clive-h | OOPS |
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| 09:01.37 | morsing | chr1s |
| 09:01.40 | morsing | ! |
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| 09:17.29 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 09:17.53 | goibhniu | morsing! |
| 09:18.28 | morsing | Hmm... If I type (?) is Gaim it changes to ASL |
| 09:18.49 | goibhniu | ? |
| 09:18.54 | goibhniu | (?) |
| 09:19.11 | clive-h | err what? |
| 09:19.19 | morsing | Yeah, confused me as well |
| 09:19.35 | clive-h | What IRC client? |
| 09:19.41 | morsing | Gaim - MSN |
| 09:20.00 | clive-h | That's very odd |
| 09:20.43 | clive-h | I use kmess for MSN |
| 09:20.43 | goibhniu | does @}- show a flower? |
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| 09:33.33 | morsing | goibhniu: No |
| 09:49.59 | antiphase | My terminal can't draw flowers unless there's a UTF-8 glyph for it |
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| 09:56.08 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
| 09:56.13 | morsing | ping sabinef72 |
| 10:01.22 | wethrin | rar? |
| 10:01.39 | morsing | wethrin: How are you? |
| 10:01.47 | morsing | Have you had lunch yet? |
| 10:01.49 | wethrin | Okay. On lab duty. |
| 10:02.03 | morsing | Lab duty? |
| 10:02.04 | wethrin | No, it's too early for lunch. But, for the sake of your diary, I shall be going to an Italian restaurant for lunch |
| 10:02.15 | morsing | And what will you be having? |
| 10:02.16 | wethrin | Yeah. Demonstrating at some undergrads who've got projects on this week |
| 10:02.24 | wethrin | The Usual(TM), I suspect |
| 10:02.30 | morsing | Arrabiata? |
| 10:06.40 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 10:06.52 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 10:08.30 | wethrin | Nah |
| 10:08.34 | wethrin | Carbonara |
| 10:08.40 | morsing | Good choice |
| 10:09.02 | wethrin | indeed |
| 10:15.30 | morsing | wethrin: Any lovely girls on in the lab? |
| 10:18.01 | morsing | What does nb mean? |
| 10:18.03 | morsing | ibot nb |
| 10:18.15 | ibot | well, nb is Nota Bene |
| 10:18.37 | clive-h | aka latin for note well |
| 10:18.38 | morsing | ibot that doesn't make sense in this context |
| 10:21.45 | morsing | ibot? |
| 10:22.17 | hali | could be "No box" if it is an auction |
| 10:29.30 | morsing | hali: I say "How are you today", Special K replies "nb" |
| 10:29.31 | morsing | ??? |
| 10:29.41 | hali | well |
| 10:29.43 | hali | "not bad" |
| 10:29.44 | hali | could be |
| 10:29.57 | morsing | Ahh... I shouldn't have been rude then |
| 10:46.00 | wethrin | morsing: No lovely girls, no |
| 10:51.29 | morsing | Any lovely boys? |
| 10:51.44 | wethrin | No. They're Engineers |
| 10:52.47 | morsing | Right... |
| 10:59.08 | morsing | IS there a windows programme that can write loads of files to my hd? |
| 11:01.56 | clive-h | wtf? |
| 11:03.15 | clive-h | I'm sure zillions of windows programs can |
| 11:03.30 | goibhniu | morsing: didn't someone ask about a windows disk fragmenting program on the list recently (or was that here even?) |
| 11:03.37 | clive-h | Incidentally program is the right UK eNGLISH QORD NOT PROGRAMME |
| 11:03.55 | clive-h | Errr right English word |
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| 11:09.39 | niv_one_1hree | wethrin:hi |
| 11:09.43 | niv_one_1hree | wethrin: hi |
| 11:09.59 | wethrin | hi |
| 11:10.42 | niv_one_1hree | any other linux events on the horizon? |
| 11:11.23 | wethrin | There's Debconf coming up soon |
| 11:11.58 | niv_one_1hree | is it THAT good ? |
| 11:14.09 | wethrin | Depends if you want to spend a week in the company of Debian folk or not |
| 11:20.18 | morsing | clive-h: Don't care, we need to teach them! |
| 11:30.53 | wethrin | ~change 1 EUR to GBP |
| 11:32.25 | wethrin | ~change 2.70 EUR to GBP |
| 11:34.11 | wethrin | ~change 10.10 EUR to GBP |
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| 11:52.34 | morsing | dick_turpin: |
| 11:53.18 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 11:54.11 | morsing | dick_turpin: How are you? |
| 11:55.06 | dick_turpin | Um OKish awaiting to have rocks thrown at me for a post I did on a Forum early this morning |
| 11:58.08 | morsing | What forum was that? |
| 11:59.01 | dick_turpin | Hm nice try, you'll only go there, register under a false name, then rip me to bits :-P |
| 11:59.14 | morsing | dick_turpin: I was going to... |
| 11:59.26 | dick_turpin | morsing: Its what I'd do |
| 12:01.36 | dick_turpin | morsing: Come on then why are you depressed (I just know I'm gonna regret this) |
| 12:04.37 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 12:04.48 | morsing | Doesn't matter (to you) anyway |
| 12:05.02 | dick_turpin | morsing: Phew |
| 12:05.10 | morsing | Thanks for asking though |
| 12:05.14 | morsing | I think |
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| 12:11.26 | morsing | ceronman! |
| 12:11.35 | ceronman | morsing: hey |
| 12:18.15 | morsing | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Meldrew |
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| 12:34.26 | morsing | niv_one_1hree! |
| 12:42.21 | goibhniu | morsing: humans got you down? |
| 12:43.10 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Na someone nicked his sheep :-P |
| 12:43.14 | morsing | goibhniu? |
| 12:43.23 | morsing | dick_turpin: Don't even joke about that! |
| 12:43.57 | hali | z00dax: no reply from the Itanium women yet :( |
| 12:44.23 | bilarh | itanium women? |
| 12:44.31 | goibhniu | morsing: or is it the depressing legacy of britain for which you will be responsible soon? |
| 12:44.33 | bilarh | are they like warriors? |
| 12:44.36 | bilarh | in metal brah's? |
| 12:45.10 | bilarh | and do they ride on lions and / or tigers? |
| 12:45.13 | hali | bilarh: no this hot chick i know is selling a couple of dell servers with intel itanium procs |
| 12:45.29 | bilarh | oh :( |
| 12:45.40 | hali | i doubt she's wearing metal brah's |
| 12:46.14 | bilarh | boooring |
| 12:46.58 | bilarh | i'm hurting so much today i can barele a) walk, b) breath, c) type |
| 12:47.13 | bilarh | s/barele/barely/ |
| 12:47.40 | goibhniu | bilarh: from the street fighting? |
| 12:47.47 | bilarh | yes :( |
| 12:48.20 | bilarh | my chest is a bluey green colour |
| 12:49.01 | bilarh | luckily, today's my day off training :) |
| 12:49.20 | bilarh | so i can prepare for friday night and then the rest of the weekend :) |
| 12:49.27 | goibhniu | have you killed off the nerves in your hands yet? |
| 12:49.53 | bilarh | it's starting to hurt less to punch harder, so going the right direction :P |
| 12:50.16 | bilarh | unfortunately everyone else punches me harder as well, so it hurts more :) |
| 12:50.51 | goibhniu | good good .. I'll bet you could snap morsing like a twig ... if you wanted |
| 12:50.56 | bilarh | actually, i lie about the chest being blue... it's more brownish in places but it's *really* sore :) |
| 12:51.12 | bilarh | maybe, if it wasn't a tough fighter twig |
| 12:51.25 | bilarh | one without metal underwear |
| 12:51.28 | goibhniu | green would be worrying |
| 12:51.34 | bilarh | oh morsing as a twig |
| 12:51.44 | bilarh | i read it as "i bet you could snap a twig" :P |
| 12:52.04 | goibhniu | morsing: are you street tuff? |
| 12:52.23 | bilarh | morsing: are you down in da hood? |
| 12:52.53 | goibhniu | morsing: bilarh said he was gonna crack your skull |
| 12:52.54 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'm shocked! and I had you pegged for a tree hugger |
| 12:53.19 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: less humans == more trees |
| 12:54.33 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: The accident and emergency dept is sending you the bill for what you did to me yesterday |
| 12:54.35 | bilarh | do I win? :D |
| 12:55.13 | bilarh | goibhniu: we should stage a keyboard warrior tournament |
| 12:55.23 | cpufreak | I'm going to kill someone |
| 12:55.38 | goibhniu | bilarh wins! morsing loses big time! All hail bilarh! |
| 12:55.38 | bilarh | cpufreak: whoa, easy tiger! |
| 12:55.44 | morsing | dick_turpin: Thanks |
| 12:55.50 | bilarh | i thank you, i thank you |
| 12:55.51 | morsing | goibhniu: No and no |
| 12:55.58 | morsing | bilarh: No |
| 12:56.02 | bilarh | morsing: too late, i won already |
| 12:56.11 | morsing | goibhniu: No I am not |
| 12:56.15 | dick_turpin | hail bilarh "look upon his works and tremble" |
| 12:56.17 | bilarh | see, if you don't turn up to the fights, you lose |
| 12:58.11 | cpufreak | its just an expression |
| 12:58.13 | goibhniu | morsing: it's ok ... you just need a gun ... gun > kung fu |
| 12:58.28 | goibhniu | bilarh: have you got a gun? |
| 12:59.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I've got a pretty big weapon |
| 12:59.32 | cpufreak | I've got a couple of shotguns |
| 12:59.35 | cpufreak | a rifle |
| 12:59.38 | cpufreak | an airrifle |
| 13:00.02 | cpufreak | and a colt .45 revolver... all courtesy of my northern irish firearms license |
| 13:00.11 | cpufreak | :D |
| 13:00.44 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: have you got any firearms with a low carbon footprint? |
| 13:00.52 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: It fires blanks now :-( |
| 13:05.33 | bilarh | goibhniu: no, but i've got bad breath |
| 13:05.36 | bilarh | does that count? |
| 13:08.37 | goibhniu | bilarh: as long as morsing buys his weapons from dick_turpin it can be considered a fair match |
| 13:14.46 | bilarh | ooh, a jacuzzi |
| 13:15.13 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what this place needs is a swimming pool with pink water |
| 13:15.15 | bilarh | and a wave machine |
| 13:15.18 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ssh thats a tax dodge |
| 13:17.07 | bilarh | dick_turpin: got any nice cigars? |
| 13:18.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yep Cuban I know this bloke with a beard keeps showing up in army fatigues hes getting on a bit tho |
| 13:20.07 | bilarh | coolest, is he around today? |
| 13:21.14 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Na but this bloke kim il someything or other is here trying to sell me some plutonium |
| 13:21.31 | bilarh | ah, the shortie with the funny hair? |
| 13:22.48 | bilarh | speaking of the central american bloke... i need to get myself a che t-shirt |
| 13:22.57 | bilarh | green with a red print |
| 13:23.01 | bilarh | i'll look so ace :D |
| 13:23.29 | bilarh | hali: and then we can hit the bars |
| 13:27.30 | z00dax | hali: ah well, we shall wait and see - as long as the machines are still listed on there - we know they are not gone yet |
| 13:38.07 | morsing | I suck |
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| 13:46.44 | goibhniu | morsing: put up or shoot up ... only Leeds is allowed to moan in this channel |
| 13:46.54 | goibhniu | morsing: I still love you anyway |
| 13:47.01 | dick_turpin | morsing: Do you? you can charge for that sort of service :-P |
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| 13:55.04 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 13:55.13 | morsing | goibhniu: You do...? |
| 13:56.42 | goibhniu | morsing: always |
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| 14:00.38 | morsing | mumperer! |
| 14:00.51 | mumperer | morsing! |
| 14:01.52 | mumperer | Everyone tickety-boo? |
| 14:03.27 | mumperer | Anyone seen innerarc? |
| 14:04.56 | goibhniu | mumperer: what have you done to innerarc!? he hasn't been here in ages! |
| 14:05.01 | goibhniu | ~seen innerarc |
| 14:05.26 | ibot | innerarc <n=ken@ACBCA885.ipt.aol.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 5d 23h 53m 56s ago, saying: 'sorry later need to go thaor your helpnks f'. |
| 14:05.28 | mumperer | :goibhniu more, more ... |
| 14:06.24 | goibhniu | mumperer see .. he's lost the plot already, and he's only just started using linux! |
| 14:07.22 | mumperer | goibhniu: Umm. He didn't beat microshit then ... and he did ask me ... |
| 14:08.22 | mumperer | I mean, I advised the captain of the Titanic on his iceberg-awareness programme - what else do they ask of me? |
| 14:09.30 | mumperer | goibhniu: you know you didn't get all that snot off your shoulder. |
| 14:10.17 | goibhniu | mumperer: it might be that his dns servers are a bit wonky |
| 14:10.52 | goibhniu | mumperer: you could try to hook him up with some good ones |
| 14:11.23 | mumperer | goibhniu: you might well be right, mine fell of without any warning, it's not fair. Are they good with onions? |
| 14:12.16 | goibhniu | mumperer: there's a reason buddhists don't eat onions |
| 14:32.42 | Leeds | goibhniu: I ain't moaning today |
| 14:32.51 | Leeds | well, just about women |
| 14:34.15 | goibhniu | Leeds: what's up with morsing? Women problems? |
| 14:34.25 | Leeds | dunno, really |
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| 14:34.46 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 14:35.02 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 14:35.48 | goibhniu | morsing: stop bottling it all up inside, we're all worried about you |
| 14:35.56 | morsing | goibhniu: You should be |
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| 14:53.17 | Leeds | okay, so the quick background and story of this afternoon, for those who are interested - if you're not interested, well, I don't really care... |
| 14:53.52 | clive-h | good afternoon |
| 14:54.12 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 14:54.24 | Leeds | I got an email yesterday, out of the blue, asking me if I was still looking for work, since someone was looking for a full-time Linux guru |
| 14:54.46 | morsing | But you're not a guru |
| 14:55.16 | Leeds | yes I am, shut up... |
| 14:55.51 | Leeds | anyway... this was a guy I'd interviewed with in December at Outblaze, and while I'd got on well with him, I didn't get on at all with his boss, never heard back from them, nothing came of it |
| 14:56.53 | Leeds | went to chat with him today about it... he opened the conversation with something like "Well, I don't need to interview you, because I've already done that once..." - remember, he contacted me, so he's effectively given me a by on the interview :-D |
| 14:57.18 | clive-h | Sounds good then |
| 14:58.08 | Leeds | chatted to him about the job - it's troubleshooting, firefighting, in an operational situation - being the in-house Linux guru, working with the application team when there are issues, etc. - may involve some onsite/out-of-hours stuff, but not as a matter of course |
| 14:58.31 | Leeds | also, trying to develop an in-house knowledge base, to avoid firefighting on simpler stuff |
| 14:58.57 | clive-h | Typical sys admin then |
| 14:59.04 | bilarh | i don't like the on site work |
| 14:59.31 | Leeds | right, except I wouldn't - as I understand it - be particularly involved in day-to-day admin |
| 14:59.46 | Leeds | anyway, we'll see |
| 15:00.05 | bilarh | hmm.. thinking about it... i should find myself a job where i stay at home all day and the company pays me loads of money |
| 15:00.21 | clive-h | hahaha# |
| 15:00.30 | clive-h | We'd all like a job like that |
| 15:00.52 | Leeds | the guy said he had authority to hire one person, and wanted me for it... needed approval from his boss, who he then hauled into the conference room for a chat with me - told me afterwards that he'd got a yes from his boss... |
| 15:01.17 | bilarh | is this a different boss to the one that you didn't get on with? |
| 15:01.18 | clive-h | Congrats then |
| 15:01.29 | bilarh | oh and congratulations as well :P |
| 15:01.32 | Leeds | sorry - should have clarified that he's now in a new position at a different company |
| 15:01.48 | bilarh | oh righ t:P |
| 15:01.54 | bilarh | bonus :) |
| 15:02.06 | Leeds | also need a yes from HR - but shouldn't be too hard, hopefully, if the 'professional' people like me |
| 15:02.29 | bilarh | hr interviews are scary though... |
| 15:02.38 | Leeds | so, need to go talk to HR tomorrow, work out exact terms... the appropriate person wasn't in the office today |
| 15:02.50 | bilarh | i don't care how much they say it's just a formality... it shits me up every time :P |
| 15:03.06 | bilarh | this in .hk, yes? |
| 15:03.14 | Leeds | we did discuss money - it's not great, but within my 'happy range' - certainly an amount I can live on very comfortably, can put a bit away, etc. |
| 15:03.17 | Leeds | yes, in HK |
| 15:03.24 | bilarh | excellent :D |
| 15:04.14 | Leeds | the main thing I'd be worried about wrt HR would be the visa issue... bloke today pretty much tossed it aside as "well, if I want to hire you, and you need a visa, we'll have to make HR get you one - that's their job, after all" |
| 15:04.41 | bilarh | excellent :) |
| 15:04.55 | Leeds | goibhniu: no twist - not yet, at least :-) |
| 15:05.09 | goibhniu | go Leeds! |
| 15:05.34 | Leeds | as far as blokey today was concerned, unless I really piss off HR tomorrow, he's happy to have me start on Wednesday (Tuesday being a public holiday) in an informal, visa-pending fashion |
| 15:06.34 | Leeds | remember, he called me, asked me to come chat to him about it, then told me he didn't need to interview me because he'd already done that and was happy... obviously, I don't know how realistic he is, but if it goes as planned... yay! |
| 15:07.29 | goibhniu | Leeds: they love you |
| 15:08.00 | Leeds | oh, and just for bonus yay! points... he said that to catch up with what I'd been up to, he put my blog name into the Google and looked me up :-) although he got the name slightly wrong and ended up on an archive page, so got a bit confused |
| 15:08.53 | goibhniu | so no more all nighters on #gllug then :'( |
| 15:09.01 | goibhniu | you'll be sorely missed |
| 15:09.07 | Leeds | yeah |
| 15:09.16 | Leeds | well... if I'm on-call :-) |
| 15:09.38 | Leeds | we'll see exactly how much of that sort of thing happens |
| 15:09.42 | bilarh | goibhniu: let's start a whip round for speed for leeds :P |
| 15:10.30 | Leeds | but at this point, it appears to be a) a proper job, b) a visa, and c) decent money - so I ain't complaining |
| 15:11.27 | goibhniu | bilarh: ok, but don't tell dick_turpin |
| 15:11.42 | goibhniu | Leeds: the really shit thing is you'll have to work now |
| 15:13.02 | Leeds | yeah |
| 15:13.27 | Leeds | does sound like - at least to start - it's going to be more interesting than slogging, which is good |
| 15:13.33 | morsing | slogging? |
| 15:13.37 | morsing | ibot slogging |
| 15:15.04 | goibhniu | morsing: invisible underpants |
| 15:17.26 | morsing | ibot vpl |
| 15:18.44 | morsing | ibot wake ibot |
| 15:18.58 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ibot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 15:20.19 | Leeds | gregj: you might find that the Greater London LUG isn't the best place to look :-) |
| 15:20.22 | morsing | Gunde lives in Cambridge I think and so does George... |
| 15:20.36 | Leeds | oh, and I've also got an invite to give a Python talk or workshop to the HKLUG at some point... |
| 15:20.50 | morsing | python sucks |
| 15:20.58 | gregj | Leeds: some ppl might know :) |
| 15:21.04 | gregj | morsing: it does |
| 15:23.43 | wethrin | gregj: Ask on #debian-uk? :) |
| 15:24.31 | morsing | wethrin! You're alive! |
| 15:25.11 | gregj | wethrin: there's just two guys there, me and some other bloke |
| 15:26.05 | morsing | gregj: Ask him then! |
| 15:26.11 | gregj | :> |
| 15:27.38 | gregj | my friend left open SSH session, and told me that I can do what I want. I run rm -rf ~ . He wasn't happy. That was the only thign that he is unable to recover. Fast scsi discs, 100GB of data gone in split second... |
| 15:28.28 | clive-h | You're a good friend then |
| 15:28.28 | clive-h | what a bastard thing to do to someone who trusted you |
| 15:28.55 | goibhniu | ~seen gw280 |
| 15:29.11 | ibot | gw280 <n=george@ipmas.corpus.cam.ac.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2d 16h 9m 43s ago, saying: 'hi.'. |
| 15:29.59 | gregj | clive-h: :> |
| 15:30.17 | gregj | clive-h: he asked for it :) before he even said 'no, home's not covered' - it all just happend |
| 15:30.35 | clive-h | hmm |
| 15:31.00 | goibhniu | gregj: you did that deliberately? |
| 15:31.17 | gregj | he said 'you can delete anything you want, it is all replicated anyway' |
| 15:31.38 | Leeds | wow... I think I'd beat the shit out of you if you tried that... |
| 15:31.59 | gregj | nevermind, point is - it is a pitty that xfs nor other journaling fs doesn't have undelete |
| 15:32.03 | gregj | once it is gone, it is gone |
| 15:32.10 | gregj | Leeds: yeah, he almost did |
| 15:32.52 | gregj | the problem is, it was very quick operation. Normaly, you would expect to have 100GB of data to dete in few secs, not in split sec |
| 15:33.07 | gregj | i did imiedately after running 'rm -rf ~' press ctrl+c |
| 15:33.18 | morsing | Maybe he's implemented async 'rm' |
| 15:33.20 | clive-h | i think you'd be an ex-friend |
| 15:33.26 | gregj | :) |
| 15:33.46 | clive-h | and I'd peobably considered prosecuting you under the CMA |
| 15:34.01 | wethrin | gregj: Try it on oftc, rather than freenode |
| 15:34.22 | gregj | well, my friends are good and forgiving |
| 15:34.37 | gregj | that explains why clive-h is not my friend ;p |
| 15:34.54 | clive-h | I wouldn't be if you erased my system |
| 15:35.15 | clive-h | Sorry , I'm a sysadmin I take such things seriously |
| 15:35.24 | wethrin | clive-h: Does the CMA apply if you authorised access to the system? |
| 15:35.41 | clive-h | Well dunno |
| 15:35.47 | clive-h | Bit gray |
| 15:36.11 | morsing | clive-h: Or if the owner said "Delete everything" |
| 15:36.35 | clive-h | and pretty stupid to give him access when he would do someting like that |
| 15:36.41 | morsing | 16:31 < gregj> he said 'you can delete anything you want, it is all replicated |
| 15:36.42 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.02 | clive-h | well |
| 15:37.11 | morsing | I would have done it too |
| 15:38.26 | gregj | heh, stop with the CMA crap |
| 15:38.48 | morsing | clive-h: Do you work for them? |
| 15:38.50 | gregj | like I said, the guy said - you can do it, it is not a problem |
| 15:38.52 | gregj | so... |
| 15:39.13 | clive-h | work for who? |
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| 15:39.21 | morsing | CMA |
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| 15:39.45 | morsing | ceronman! |
| 15:39.47 | clive-h | CMA=Computer Misuse Act |
| 15:39.51 | clive-h | No |
| 15:39.51 | morsing | Ha - gotcha this time! |
| 15:40.02 | clive-h | I don't work for the police |
| 15:40.06 | ceronman | hi |
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| 15:40.34 | clive-h | Though I once reported a system compromise to the Hi Tech Crime Unit |
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| 15:41.30 | morsing | ceronman! |
| 15:41.32 | clive-h | Not servers I was personally responsible for , but the CTO was happier with me dealing with them than the Windows sysadmin |
| 15:58.37 | wethrin | clive-h: Did the HTCU do anything about it? |
| 15:59.17 | clive-h | As part of a wider investigation |
| 15:59.35 | clive-h | The intrusion was from Russia |
| 16:00.14 | clive-h | as they often are |
| 16:00.40 | clive-h | Stupid idiots were rubbing NT Servers directly on the net |
| 16:01.03 | clive-h | and the NT admin didn't have a clue about security |
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| 16:37.17 | cpufreak | anyone want a job doing LAMP development? (where the P is php) |
| 16:38.57 | clive-h | Not me, I have no web design skills |
| 16:38.57 | cpufreak | (paying about 40k) |
| 16:39.38 | gregj | cpufreak: london area ? |
| 16:39.41 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 16:41.24 | clive-h | That sounds like a job I got called by a $recruiter about |
| 16:41.39 | cpufreak | really? |
| 16:41.41 | cpufreak | which agency? |
| 16:42.19 | clive-h | Pass I dunno, it wasn't something I could do |
| 16:43.58 | clive-h | I'd never apply for a job that inviolved designing web pages |
| 16:44.54 | Leeds | is it design or development? |
| 16:44.58 | cpufreak | development |
| 16:45.29 | clive-h | Also I don't know PHP |
| 16:46.02 | failure | how much previous experience in php is required? |
| 16:46.06 | Leeds | a minor quibble |
| 16:46.09 | gregj | I could take such job, but currently I am in cambridge |
| 16:46.10 | gregj | damn |
| 16:46.25 | cpufreak | couple of years I was tld |
| 16:46.55 | cpufreak | Leeds: I think of design as in doing layout and dtuff, development as in writing code which powers functionality in a website. |
| 16:47.51 | clive-h | By that definition I could do development (but not in php) I guess |
| 16:48.48 | antiphase | Debian-- |
| 16:48.51 | antiphase | "E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop." |
| 16:49.01 | cpufreak | lol |
| 16:49.12 | clive-h | That's a GOTCHA |
| 16:49.23 | cpufreak | gregj: its in east london apprently |
| 16:49.29 | cpufreak | so might be commutable |
| 16:49.34 | cpufreak | from cambridge |
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| 17:22.01 | SlayerXP | that's not a gotcha, it's routine |
| 17:23.05 | clive-h | Unless you lose power during that bit |
| 17:23.37 | SlayerXP | it's saying "I can't directly upgrade a package, I need to remove it first, upgrade or install a dependancy then install the new version. should you computer reboot during this process, fsck won't be available on boot, therefore causing your disks not to be fsckable." |
| 17:24.58 | clive-h | Exactly |
| 17:25.23 | SlayerXP | antiphase: it's a _bad_ things it warns you about that? |
| 17:25.28 | SlayerXP | thing |
| 17:25.52 | SlayerXP | you best stay away from mysql then |
| 17:25.59 | SlayerXP | You> BEGIN; |
| 17:26.17 | SlayerXP | MySQL> Oooh! A transaction! Fire ahead, you can trust me! |
| 17:26.26 | rhowe | MySQL> What? nfi what that means. Can't be important though. OK: |
| 17:26.32 | SlayerXP | You> DELETE * FROM REALLY_IMPORTANT_TABLE; |
| 17:26.40 | SlayerXP | MySQL> Roger that. |
| 17:26.46 | SlayerXP | You> ROLLBACK; |
| 17:26.53 | rhowe | MySQL> OMGWTF |
| 17:26.53 | SlayerXP | MySQL> MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA |
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| 17:42.52 | gregj | mysql> suck |
| 17:44.14 | clive-h | Oracle ftw |
| 17:45.29 | gregj | mysql> export * to postgresql; |
| 17:45.44 | gregj | mysql> selfdestruction; |
| 17:46.15 | clive-h | mysql has it's uses |
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| 19:46.43 | morsing | Hello? |
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| 19:47.11 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
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| 19:53.47 | morsing | Skuzzzy! |
| 19:54.47 | Skuzzzy | morsing! |
| 19:54.48 | Skuzzzy | heya |
| 20:04.40 | Skuzzzy | umm...bye |
| 20:05.02 | Skuzzzy | exciting time had by all :) |
| 20:05.22 | morsing | Nice |
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| 20:06.32 | Skuzzzy | :) |
| 20:06.48 | Skuzzzy | is it normally a bit busier? |
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| 23:27.27 | niv_one_three | hi all, I seek to use four hard disks as raid-5 |
| 23:28.12 | niv_one_three | I will put lvm on the raid |
| 23:28.55 | niv_one_three | why do I see a recomandation to split root to one raid device md2 and another device for home - md3? |
| 23:33.00 | Kitty | persoally I would do it neither way |