04:17.27 | Leeds | ibot change 1 gbp to usd |
08:00.06 | pr0nGuy | morsing: pr0n indeed |
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09:12.48 | mumperer | Hi :) |
09:16.29 | mumperer | My son rang me from Folkestone (out on a dawn photography trip) saying the town had been hit by an earthquake. So I called up the BBC page. Yeah, text on the shake-up, but an un-Linux friendly Realtime thingy stopped me seeing whatever the TV coverage was. Seems most unfriendly ... |
09:17.54 | z00dax | looks like outage in level3 :/ |
09:18.16 | z00dax | mumperer: mplayer with the right codec will do it for you |
09:20.19 | mumperer | z00dax: Okeydokey, I'll have a look at that, thanks. |
09:20.28 | z00dax | what distro ? |
09:21.28 | mumperer | z00dax: Ubuntu 6.06 |
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09:40.48 | mumperer | goibhniu! |
09:40.59 | goibhniu | mumperer ... howya! |
09:45.05 | mumperer | goibhniu: hold it, hold it! Advised yesterday by PC world lady that my kit needs DDR PC2100 memory. 'Kay, what then? I've discovered quite a lot about my system but not, apparently, enough. I did get to buy an anti-static bracelet ready for the big day though ... |
09:45.41 | goibhniu | :) |
09:46.06 | goibhniu | are you getting a new graphics card too? |
09:47.35 | goibhniu | have you bought the memory already? |
09:48.33 | mumperer | goibhniu: ah, there's an interesting one - a long discussion between my son and aforesaid lady, with much head-nodding, revealed that they thought I could achieve betterment (3D processing?) via software. And no, I've bought nowt other than the bracelet! |
09:50.10 | goibhniu | depending on your motherboard there may be interesting options for the memory, things like 2x512MB sticks will probably be better than 1x1GB |
09:50.31 | goibhniu | do you know what graphics card you have already? |
09:51.27 | goibhniu | with memory as well, afaik having one slow stick in there will slow the whole show down even if it means you have more memory available |
09:51.46 | goibhniu | I can do some research for you if you give me model numbers etc |
09:53.47 | mumperer | goibhniu: ah well. I derived much (unintelligible) listing from running dmidecode - eight pages print-out, nicely done, drawing from me repeated shouts of "Wossat?" Model number CE No. 10064759, by the way. |
09:54.21 | goltor | goibhniu: that is true |
09:55.16 | mumperer | goibhniu: would it assist if I e-mailed the text file (from dmidecode) to you? |
09:55.30 | goibhniu | mumperer: what number is that for? ... if you have the model number of the motherboard or the machine handy ... that'd be ace |
09:55.45 | goibhniu | mumperer: cillian.deroiste@gmail.com |
09:56.32 | goibhniu | mumperer: have you got a 3d desktop beryl/compiz yet? |
09:58.41 | goibhniu | goltor, cheers |
09:59.26 | mumperer | goibhniu: sorry, attention away as I put that address in and no, - the reason is that a numbher of occasions a message has said that 3-d was not enabled - whatever - so not much has been doen about that. |
10:00.28 | mumperer | goibhniu: seriously though, please confirm are you saying I should send you that text file? |
10:01.56 | goibhniu | mumperer: yep, please send that file ... if you disappear for a while I'll get back to you by email |
10:02.14 | goibhniu | mumperer: if you do have the model number of the motherboard too that would be helpful |
10:02.45 | mumperer | goibhniu: my thanks. Will do ... ciao for now |
10:05.49 | goibhniu | chow |
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10:15.39 | mumperer | back again ... :) |
10:16.02 | mumperer | Went inadvertent walkabouts ... |
10:18.06 | goibhniu | excellent ... it looks bright out there! |
10:18.35 | goibhniu | do you think he went street fighting last night? |
10:26.24 | mumperer | goibhniu: is morsing really an adverb? If so, then yes ... |
10:31.01 | goibhniu | mumperer: I just looked at the file you sent, it looks like it's got all the details ... I have to do some chores now tho :( |
10:31.54 | mumperer | goibhniu: many warm thanks. But yeah, morsing IS quiet ... |
10:33.00 | Leeds | evening folks... |
10:33.09 | mumperer | Leeds! |
10:35.13 | mumperer | Leeds: nothing personal, I've now gotta go - SWMBO shouts up stairs nosheroonietime!! See ya |
10:36.33 | Leeds | have fun |
10:39.49 | gregj | I guess I'll have to do some sort of stay-in-bed-and-code session :) |
10:40.21 | Leeds | I've been to the bank, and to the computer mall today |
10:44.27 | gregj | maybe I'll take a bus to london, and see some of my old friends |
10:47.26 | Leeds | I went to price up Wiis :-) |
10:51.13 | Leeds | for a Japanese Wii, which means menus in Japanese and only the Japanese store, but modified to play non-Japanese games, with no games included, the street price is around $2000 - that's under £130 :-D |
10:53.14 | gregj | I am looking for a job here, my assesment day at a java company here wasn't sucessful after all. despite the fact that techincaly I was okay, they said they don't like the reason why I want to quit running my own business |
10:53.48 | gregj | some don't seem to understand that I may be much better at software devel, than dealing with customers majority of my time |
10:53.53 | Leeds | a long time ago, I promised myself a Wii as a 'reward/incentive' for getting a job... hopefully, that might happen next week... not going to do the shopping until I've got a paycheque in hand, but no harm in window-shopping |
10:53.54 | gregj | :( |
10:54.18 | Leeds | gregj: of course I understand that... people kept asking me here why I didn't start my own business - that's one of the reasons |
10:54.40 | gregj | I am trying to avoid window shopping, it always ends up 'i can buy this little thing, nothing wrong with that' stuff |
10:54.58 | gregj | Leeds: I told them 'I do not like to deal with ppl, I rather develop some software' |
10:55.04 | gregj | Leeds: that was something they didn't liked |
10:55.08 | Leeds | well, I did buy a remote for my xbox, but it was only a tenner |
10:55.30 | gregj | and for a strange reason, they didn't wanted me to straight* it up |
10:55.30 | Leeds | yeah, there are better ways to phrase that, you know... *never* tell a potential employer that you don't like dealing with people |
10:55.53 | gregj | Leeds: it was just one of sentences in whole answer |
10:56.10 | gregj | Leeds: so the guy obviously didn't got me right on this one |
10:56.14 | Leeds | you can say something like "I prefer dealing with technical people" or "I enjoy professional interactions, but I'm not a salesman" |
10:56.19 | gregj | or probably just my english isn't that perfect |
10:56.43 | gregj | I said that |
10:56.50 | gregj | that I am not a sales man |
10:56.52 | gregj | etc |
10:57.09 | gregj | dunno, I can always suspect the guy didn't liked Poles |
10:57.47 | gregj | but on the other hand, he wouldn't wanna drag me over to uk, pay for my ticket and 3 nights in hotel |
10:58.06 | gregj | duno, screw them, nothing I can do about it |
10:58.08 | Leeds | another point which has been made to me is that if you're looking for a job, you *have* to be a salesman, because you're selling yourself to potential employers |
10:58.48 | gregj | selling my skills to get a job, is a bit different than selling software to customers |
10:59.07 | Leeds | not that different |
10:59.33 | Leeds | for example, one of the things we all know about salesmen is that they pump up the good things about their products and avoid talking about the bad things... |
10:59.34 | gregj | I have no problems describing what can I do, and how would it be benefit for company to employ me |
10:59.50 | Leeds | so you need to pump up your software dev skills, and avoid talking about dealing with people |
10:59.56 | Leeds | most of us are too honest, yes |
10:59.58 | gregj | yeah |
11:00.06 | Leeds | if we weren't, we'd be successful salesmen ;-) |
11:00.14 | gregj | :) |
11:01.22 | gregj | so anyway, if someone knows about some potential job in cambridge or london, i need something asap. please let me know |
11:07.52 | gregj | agents are very slow |
11:09.10 | boudiccas | and they like you to 'come in and register' and then they forget about you |
11:09.29 | gregj | I am calling few of them everyday |
11:09.39 | gregj | so they can't forget me anytime soon |
11:10.14 | gregj | bastards get money for it, and most companies won't allow me to bring over just my cv and chat, they send everyone to recruitment agent |
11:16.21 | Leeds | hmm... really not a good idea to be sitting reading old MSN logs of chats with Jasmine :-( |
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11:23.57 | gregj | :/ |
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12:06.31 | clive-h | "come in and register"? |
12:06.52 | clive-h | I've never met a single agency recruiter in person |
12:10.23 | Leeds | I've met a few here, partly because I've called after I registered to ask if I could have a chat |
12:11.51 | Leeds | not that it did any good... |
12:11.55 | clive-h | Mostly the agents I talk to aren't even remotely local to me |
12:12.26 | Leeds | everything is local in HK |
12:13.55 | gregj | clive-h: same here, with all of them, I chat over the phone or emails |
12:14.16 | gregj | clive-h: it is only the on employer's site that i talk to some recriuters, but not the agents again |
12:15.09 | Leeds | in my experience here, I've got nothing from agents, and nothing from 'employers' - everything I have got (which isn't that much) has been through networking contacts |
12:16.54 | gregj | never had anything via 'networking contacts', LinkedIn and etc - which you probably to refer |
12:17.00 | gregj | refer to. |
12:17.04 | Leeds | no, much more personal than that |
12:17.47 | Leeds | meeting people, both in formal and informal things - going to the pub with a mate to meet other mates of his, or going to an arranged pub meet... |
12:18.02 | Leeds | passing CVs through people you know, possibly via other people on the way |
12:19.30 | Leeds | the two important things are to avoid going through HR people, and to have it come in with a recommendation - "have a look at this CV, I know this bloke and he knows his stuff" |
12:20.09 | Leeds | worth noting that a lot of larger companies have bounties - if you recommend someone for a position and they get it, you can be up for a bonus - so people *want* to pass CVs on |
12:20.11 | gregj | I know plenty of ppl here in UK that have good say of me, but they won't pass anything around HR - because it is against their company policy |
12:20.18 | gregj | and say it simply won't work |
12:20.22 | Leeds | nonsense |
12:20.37 | gregj | at least the ppl and companuies I know |
12:20.44 | gregj | my CV's at http://gj.pointblue.com.pl/cv/ |
12:20.58 | gregj | if someone feels like passing it over, please do. :) |
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12:21.45 | Leeds | what you want is what I hope is going to happen to me next week - someone technical, who actually wants to hire you, passes your details on to HR and says "I want to hire this guy - interview him, and unless you hate him, make it happen" |
12:22.38 | Leeds | gregj: is there a particular reason why there's no HTML there? |
12:24.00 | Leeds | and, wow... you're looking for work in the UK with that? ever thought of getting a native speaker to proofread the English? ;-) |
12:24.28 | gregj | I do welcome any help :) |
12:25.06 | gregj | I did, friend of mine proofread it, althrough he is kiwi, I thought he did that okay |
12:25.14 | gregj | you say I need html version |
12:25.15 | gregj | hmm |
12:25.32 | Leeds | really? ugh, the English is pretty bad... |
12:25.41 | Leeds | very obviously non-native, anyway |
12:25.42 | gregj | l:( |
12:26.16 | gregj | Leeds: can I ask you to fix it for me please ? or at least point me out where should I check it, and what needs a change |
12:26.26 | gregj | I am eager to make it better, thought it was okay |
12:26.58 | Leeds | yup... give me some time - I'll edit it and send you a copy... it's all advice, of course - up to you what you take |
12:27.17 | gregj | sure |
12:34.40 | gregj | I wonder how many ppl refused it becuse of some problems |
12:34.55 | gregj | althrough I don't see too many spelling mistakes |
12:35.00 | gregj | just few on first page |
12:36.36 | Leeds | some spelling mistakes, lots of grammar mistakes, lots of style mistakes |
12:36.57 | Leeds | just constructive criticism, of course :-) |
12:42.50 | gregj | :) |
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13:55.14 | Leeds | should I a) stay in by myself, b) go buy junk food and stay in by myself or c) go out by myself, have a drink or two, see if I bump into anyone I know? |
14:02.17 | gregj | c sounds interesting |
14:02.29 | gregj | I would join you, but we're about half a world prt ; |
14:02.29 | gregj | I would join you, but we're about half a world p) |
14:02.37 | gregj | *apart |
14:02.47 | Leeds | hmm... not sure if no answer is a vote for "everyone else is out and about doing something, so you should be too" or "you're all by yourself so you might as well go buy junk food to keep you company" |
14:03.18 | Leeds | maybe I should go somewhere other than the regular places - less chance of meeting someone I know, more chance of meeting someone I don't know |
14:03.28 | gregj | I've been in my hotel room for whole day, doing programming, what a boring aturday that is |
14:03.43 | Leeds | yes - I did go out twice today |
14:03.59 | Leeds | it's not like I spent the entire day in by myself... :-) |
14:04.57 | gregj | I haven't left the hotel today yet |
14:05.00 | gregj | and it's 1500 |
14:05.27 | Leeds | that's not good... go out, see the town - even if you just get a coffee and sit by yourself watching people go past |
14:06.29 | Leeds | eh, maybe I'll go wander SoHo for a bit |
14:08.50 | gregj | I am donw, I don't have a job |
14:09.10 | gregj | I came here with positive vibe |
14:09.21 | gregj | I knew techincaly I am the good one for the job |
14:09.39 | Leeds | I should point out that wandering around Soho doesn't have quite the same implications in HK as it does in London... |
14:09.48 | gregj | those guys are using java only on low level, avoid objects if possible, don't use sun's shitty java libs, beucause those are memory hogs |
14:09.57 | gregj | and I was stunned to see that from java company |
14:10.24 | Leeds | gregj: I've been out of work since August - I came back here in October thinking I'd find something relatively easily... my best chance seems to have come this week, almost exactly 8 months since I last worked |
14:10.36 | gregj | not being able to find anything else for last 2 days (nobody got back to me with some info, or something, just some vague 'I will get back to you asap') |
14:11.18 | gregj | well, I don't have money to pay the rent or debts, etc. Not funny really if I won't get anything |
14:11.50 | Leeds | I've spent all my cash, some savings, some credit card... moved in with a friend because her spare room is much cheaper than having my own place, even if my own place is a one-room studio |
14:12.41 | gregj | CC anymore |
14:12.52 | gregj | hence my desperate move to UK |
14:12.57 | Leeds | and... just got an SMS from her saying that she's with a friend in a bar, if I'm in the area and want to join them - so, not by myself! :-) |
14:13.23 | Leeds | you think it's that much easier to get work in the UK? |
14:14.20 | gregj | like I said, I came here to an interview :) |
14:14.36 | gregj | the guys did 2 phone interviews with me, and asked me to write two tasks |
14:15.02 | gregj | so it seemed to be easy thing |
14:15.04 | gregj | :/ |
14:15.15 | Leeds | yeah, you'd think so :-( |
14:16.13 | Leeds | anyway, I really must avoid counting my chickens, but it seems I've got a pretty good chance with my current thing - and it's pretty much my last chance not to leave HK as a failure |
14:17.06 | Leeds | should know, at least informally, on Monday evening |
14:17.24 | morsing | Leeds! |
14:17.36 | Leeds | morsing? |
14:17.40 | morsing | Job? |
14:17.53 | Leeds | not until Monday |
14:18.55 | Leeds | now, it's pub time... at least I've got an invite out |
14:20.34 | gregj | morsing: j o b |
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14:36.13 | lessthan300 | hi! can anyone recommend me a LIVE 64bit distro under 300 megabytes? |
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14:46.40 | morsing | Leeds: So you got it then? |
14:46.46 | morsing | lessthan300! |
14:46.49 | morsing | ceronman! |
14:49.04 | lessthan300 | hi! can anyone recommend me a LIVE 64bit distro under 300 megabytes? |
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14:59.02 | morsing | goltor! |
15:00.03 | goibhniu | morsing: you're alive!! |
15:00.42 | goibhniu | lessthan300: what for? |
15:02.30 | goibhniu | lessthan300: gentoo perhaps? http://www.livecdlist.com/?pick=Linux_x86-64&showonly=All&sort=&sm=1 |
15:02.32 | lessthan300 | nevermind. is anyone here using a 64bit distro on an intel core 2 duo? |
15:04.39 | goibhniu | lessthan300: depending on your requirements you might want to roll your own with rpath or morphix |
15:06.12 | lessthan300 | no thanks.now i just want to know whether someone is running a 64bit distro on an inte core 2 duo so they can share their experiences |
15:06.26 | morsing | goibhniu: Barely. Last night's a blur but I think Richard Davies kissed me... |
15:07.01 | goibhniu | morsing: any bruises? |
15:08.15 | morsing | goibhniu: No - didn't know where I was when I woke up though. Leaving drinks are horrible |
15:09.28 | morsing | When's the list getting fixed? |
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15:14.29 | goibhniu | about a week apparently |
15:15.43 | goibhniu | it's already been a week though |
15:15.47 | goibhniu | just about |
15:15.52 | gregj | Leeds: if you have a chance, please review that cv, and send me over diff or something. My email is on that CV. |
15:28.45 | ceronman | hello, can somebody suggest me a good site for buying a domain name? |
15:31.13 | goibhniu | ceronman: I've got a couple from telivo.com ... seems pretty cheap |
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15:34.03 | ceronman | thanks |
15:54.22 | morsing | ceronman: lcn.biz |
15:54.27 | morsing | clive-h! |
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16:38.02 | clive-h | re |
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16:53.33 | murray | Hi ... Trying to make an apple remote do useful stuff on a mac mini running feisty. Seems to be mapped to /dev/input/event5, which shows up in ps -ef with "hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event5" ... and now I'm stuck with what to do/try next. Any pointers? |
16:55.07 | clive-h | no ideas about odd mac hardware |
16:56.04 | murray | weird part is that it is working to control the volume, but the other buttons are just dead, and I can't figure out where to plug in to have them maped to something useful |
16:56.25 | murray | lirc seems to run, but fail to get any button press events |
16:56.39 | clive-h | i was bgonna suggest lirc |
16:58.31 | murray | google has been resisting giving up any useful information all day, and I'm stumped what to try next |
16:59.27 | clive-h | No idea |
17:01.17 | murray | hey ho, thanks clive .. off to try #mactel-linux |
17:01.35 | morsing | murray! |
17:15.49 | hali | hmm, the piri piri sauce from nandos goes great with just about everything... |
17:16.09 | hali | just had it on pizza |
17:16.26 | morsing | hali! |
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17:31.35 | clive-h | Hi again |
17:34.57 | boudiccas | rehi |
17:37.00 | clive-h | i quite like beryl |
17:37.00 | goibhniu | yay! |
17:37.10 | goibhniu | clive-h: are you running gnome? |
17:37.27 | clive-h | yep |
17:37.40 | goibhniu | I highly recommend gnome-launch-box too then |
17:37.51 | clive-h | i run gnome on desktops |
17:38.04 | goibhniu | goes a treat with beryl and is very useful |
17:38.10 | clive-h | My laptop has too little RAM for gnome |
17:38.18 | clive-h | I use xfce4 on it |
17:40.56 | clive-h | I don't have gnome-launch-box |
17:43.18 | goibhniu | http://developer.imendio.com/node/97 |
17:44.04 | goibhniu | I didn't know they updated it... I've chopping bits out of it because it wasn't working so nice any more |
17:44.33 | goibhniu | http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gnome-launch-box is better |
17:44.49 | clive-h | Hmmm I'll have a look after Dr Who |
17:45.12 | clive-h | I really want to get beagle working |
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18:55.51 | morsing | goibhniu! |
18:55.54 | morsing | Skuzzzy! |
18:55.56 | morsing | ibot! |
19:13.57 | Skuzzzy | morsing! |
19:14.43 | Skuzzzy | i reckon you could do both, even moreso if you replace dough with keyboard |
19:16.03 | goibhniu | indeed, if I kneaded the keyboard I might actually say sensible things from time to time |
19:16.36 | goibhniu | Skuzzzy: what's the weather like in your part of town? |
19:17.11 | goibhniu | and why has kde remapped my keyboard? |
19:17.25 | Skuzzzy | very warm & humid in east london |
19:18.12 | goibhniu | indeed ... I've been waiting all day for it to get dark ... I'll be able to leave the house soon |
19:18.47 | Skuzzzy | haha |
19:19.07 | Skuzzzy | i had to go out in this, this.....sunshine and work, work! on a saturday argh |
19:22.24 | clive-h | Tis a bit humid in the south east |
19:28.14 | Skuzzzy | meh |
19:39.51 | Leeds | well, that turned into a bit of a later night than I expected |
19:40.32 | Leeds | the flatmate is exceedingly drunk, I am entirely sober |
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19:59.02 | gregj | Leeds: :) |
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21:11.10 | skuzzzy | much better, i felt a little hypocritical coming in here running vista :\ |
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21:55.28 | goibhniu | ~seen trousers |
21:55.56 | ibot | trousers is currently on #gllug, last said: 'ibot change USD 100.74 GBP'. |
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