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| 05:57.00 | mumperer | Greetings each! :) |
| 06:43.58 | morsing | sanelson! |
| 06:55.29 | morsing | mumperer! |
| 07:12.38 | sanelson | ho |
| 07:24.55 | mumperer | Has leeds surfaced from his job-getting-celebration hangover yet ... |
| 07:25.57 | Leeds | there's no hangover :-) |
| 07:26.25 | Leeds | I didn't have *that* much to drink... it was a long night... there was a kebab towards the end of it... and a bottle of water with a mineral tablet in it before bed... |
| 07:26.44 | Leeds | on the other hand, said kebab, around 13 hours ago, was the last thing I had to eat, so I think it's about time I went on a food-hunt |
| 07:27.00 | mumperer | Leeds: hiya! And congrats from yesterday and you've survived well ... :) |
| 07:29.15 | mumperer | right then - everything's tickety-boo then, so long-awaited shower awaits me, byeeee |
| 07:29.34 | Leeds | thanks, and seeya :-) |
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| 07:54.37 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
| 07:54.39 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 07:54.42 | niv_one_three | oh |
| 07:54.51 | niv_one_three | good morning morsing |
| 07:55.56 | niv_one_three | simple question, I seek to send prints to cups using lpr. cups wants to print in letter thus I set it up in the web interface to use A4 |
| 07:56.10 | niv_one_three | where need I fix it? |
| 07:56.25 | goibhniu | morsing: how are your rhododendrons? |
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| 08:13.23 | niv_one_three | got cut off :-( |
| 08:13.30 | niv_one_three | did anyone offer cups help? |
| 08:15.04 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: I don't understand, when you set the paper size through the web interface it doesn't work? |
| 08:15.41 | niv_one_three | I can print to A4 by default from open office |
| 08:15.55 | niv_one_three | and the printer paaramenters show A4 |
| 08:16.05 | niv_one_three | yet from lpr I apper to sending letter |
| 08:24.39 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: how about lpr -o A4 filename |
| 08:25.04 | niv_one_three | I guess that should work |
| 08:25.20 | niv_one_three | but I want to have it as a default |
| 08:25.30 | niv_one_three | and dont relly want to add an alias |
| 08:25.38 | niv_one_three | I think I can edit the ppd |
| 08:25.52 | niv_one_three | .ppd file - but isnt there a normal way? |
| 08:56.16 | morsing | goibhniu: I wouldn't even know if I had any |
| 09:12.55 | morsing | Icecream |
| 09:20.28 | antiphase | PC Load Letter |
| 09:44.10 | morsing | Mmm... Pilla |
| 09:44.22 | morsing | antiphase: It's #2 time. Will be back in 15 |
| 09:44.31 | antiphase | Nice |
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| 09:56.50 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
| 09:56.51 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 09:56.54 | morsing | antiphase: I'm back |
| 09:56.59 | morsing | antiphase: And it was good |
| 09:57.06 | morsing | Last nights chilli |
| 09:57.40 | bilarh | whoa!! bit too much information there, chap! |
| 09:58.01 | morsing | :D |
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| 10:22.04 | goibhniu | oh .. so dell are shipping ubuntu by the end of the month! ... happy may day comrades! |
| 10:22.33 | failure | gob: url? |
| 10:23.01 | goibhniu | 1 sec ... the original one was "taken down" |
| 10:24.06 | goibhniu | http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_embargo_is_over_Ubuntu_will_be_officially_supported_on_Dell_computers for starters |
| 10:24.27 | failure | :) |
| 10:25.17 | goibhniu | oh well, maybe it's just a rumour then |
| 10:25.33 | failure | we will see soon |
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| 10:37.50 | morsing | ranner! |
| 10:40.44 | morsing | failure? |
| 10:42.59 | failure | morsing? |
| 10:44.46 | ranner | morsing! |
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| 10:46.00 | clive-h | good morning |
| 10:59.06 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 10:59.17 | clive-h | good morning |
| 10:59.37 | clive-h | i seem to have another phone interview tomorrow |
| 10:59.54 | morsing | Nice |
| 11:00.28 | clive-h | proper face to face one on thursday |
| 11:04.18 | wethrin | There's also a London.pm social on Thursday |
| 11:04.54 | clive-h | hmmm interesting my interview is in Covent Garden at 16:00 |
| 11:05.22 | wethrin | Ahh, well....Cittie of Yorke, Holborn, from about 6ish, is London.pm |
| 11:05.26 | wethrin | Not that I'll be there |
| 11:05.41 | morsing | goibhniu: I've physically remove the Print Screen key from my keyboard |
| 11:06.10 | clive-h | i know the Citte of Yorke |
| 11:11.26 | hali | covent garden, great area to work in |
| 11:11.40 | hali | lots of marketing and cool mobile related stuff going on there |
| 11:13.44 | cpufreak | marketing-- # too big a fruit + flowers budget |
| 11:14.15 | clive-h | yeah |
| 11:14.26 | clive-h | plenty of restaurants |
| 11:14.42 | clive-h | and it's near china town for dinner |
| 11:14.43 | hali | im around the corner in soho |
| 11:14.47 | hali | excellent area... |
| 11:15.12 | clive-h | and orso is cool |
| 11:15.15 | hali | new world is ok'ish |
| 11:15.38 | hali | i'd say Mayflower is the best chinese imo |
| 11:15.48 | hali | new world is great for dim sum though |
| 11:15.49 | clive-h | Not been to that one |
| 11:16.17 | clive-h | I like the chilli and garlic crabs at New World |
| 11:16.52 | clive-h | i also like Melati on Gt Windmill St for malay/indoesian cuisine |
| 11:22.02 | wethrin | Patara! |
| 11:22.43 | clive-h | what/where's that? |
| 11:23.34 | wethrin | Around the corner from Mill St. |
| 11:23.37 | wethrin | Maddox St. |
| 11:23.46 | clive-h | ahhh right |
| 11:23.53 | clive-h | what cuisine? |
| 11:24.27 | wethrin | Thai |
| 11:24.38 | clive-h | nice |
| 11:25.11 | clive-h | i really must try Phuket steam beer at some point |
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| 11:38.50 | goibhniu | morsing: good thinking |
| 11:40.15 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Daaa dum daaaa dum, dum dum dum dada daaaaaaa |
| 11:40.32 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: ace of base? |
| 11:40.41 | dick_turpin | Jaws you muppet |
| 11:40.56 | wethrin | niv_one_three: Is there something wrong with your jabber client? |
| 11:58.39 | Leeds | bah, mailman day |
| 12:01.25 | dick_turpin | Leeds: Well you wont be getting one from gllug |
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| 12:15.28 | goibhniu | how are the bruises? |
| 12:15.45 | bilarh | well, my calfs have turned into this funky blue colour now :) |
| 12:15.55 | goibhniu | have you got all the herbs for that? |
| 12:15.57 | bilarh | but the bruising on the chest and arms is going down :) |
| 12:16.31 | bilarh | herbs for what? :) |
| 12:16.38 | bilarh | the only 'erb i need is a coffee bean :) |
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| 12:19.10 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 12:19.16 | morsing | Jasperw! |
| 12:19.18 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 12:19.21 | morsing | bilarh: Why? |
| 12:19.25 | mikejw | helooo |
| 12:19.42 | mikejw | :) |
| 12:19.56 | goibhniu | bilarh: e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dit_da_jow |
| 12:20.18 | goibhniu | bilarh: I think arnica is good too |
| 12:21.01 | goibhniu | bilarh: bruises can block up the flow of your chi |
| 12:21.40 | bilarh | ooh right.. jau :) |
| 12:21.53 | bilarh | yeah my wifes mother keeps putting it on me all the time |
| 12:21.57 | bilarh | got a some stuff at home as well |
| 12:22.15 | bilarh | it doesn't seem to do much for me though, unfortunately |
| 12:22.22 | bilarh | but i may not be zealous enough with it |
| 12:22.44 | bilarh | but it does help against sore muscles.. it feels like it increases circulation |
| 12:22.47 | bilarh | as the area goes all hot |
| 12:24.18 | goibhniu | ahh, excellent |
| 12:29.56 | bilarh | hmm, maybe i should start using it more often |
| 12:29.56 | bilarh | it's the same stuff as tiger balm isn't it |
| 12:29.56 | bilarh | well, it smells the same anyway :) |
| 12:29.56 | bilarh | although tiger balm seems to be a bit weaker |
| 12:29.56 | goibhniu | I dunno, I never did any external martial arts stuff |
| 12:29.57 | bilarh | we have this one clear liquid which stings your eye at a long distance :) |
| 12:29.57 | goibhniu | excellent! |
| 12:29.57 | morsing | goibhniu: Beer |
| 12:29.58 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 12:29.58 | goibhniu | morsing: cawfy |
| 12:30.29 | goibhniu | anyone got some wild skills they want to show off at the next meeting? |
| 12:30.29 | morsing | goibhniu: I do |
| 12:30.30 | goibhniu | morsing: you're ubuntu modded keyboard would be nice to demo |
| 12:31.09 | morsing | goibhniu: My keyboard goes into spasms everytime I turn on my VAX |
| 12:31.10 | morsing | goibhniu: I owuld actually : |
| 12:31.12 | morsing | :) |
| 12:31.12 | goibhniu | have you pulled off the caps lock too? |
| 12:31.12 | morsing | It would... You get the point. Stupid keyboard |
| 12:31.22 | morsing | goibhniu: No, my keyboard goes funny when my VAX is singing at me |
| 12:31.39 | goibhniu | yeah ... keyboards are shite ... they make me depressed for being human |
| 12:32.46 | goibhniu | does your vax send you encoded messages, that only you can hear? |
| 12:34.13 | goibhniu | morsing: can you give a demo on odd things that computers do when they get old ... or something? |
| 12:34.27 | bilarh | goibhniu: interesting youtube-vid at the end of that wikipedia article :) |
| 12:35.37 | bilarh | oh no sorry |
| 12:35.43 | bilarh | it was probably off the iron palm page |
| 12:35.47 | goibhniu | ahh |
| 12:35.58 | bilarh | which is itself a link off the jao one |
| 12:36.09 | goibhniu | terrific set of demos? |
| 12:36.18 | bilarh | yeah i think that was it :) |
| 12:36.24 | bilarh | well, it's cool if you like breaking things :) |
| 12:38.05 | bilarh | it's quite cool to see that the guy doing the moves is a bit of a larger character as well |
| 12:38.32 | bilarh | bit like myself :-) |
| 12:38.33 | bilarh | although i'm working on losing some weight so that I can move faster |
| 12:38.34 | bilarh | at the moment it's a bit like a rhino charging forwards more than a swallow flying around :) |
| 12:42.42 | goibhniu | yeah, keith looks like he likes breaking stuff alright |
| 12:43.30 | goibhniu | impressive the way he goes for a load of pressure points really quickly |
| 12:44.11 | goibhniu | not something I'd be into myself though |
| 12:47.06 | goibhniu | I think weight isn't a problem in itself for martial arts, you just have to learn how to use it |
| 12:47.06 | goibhniu | and some techniques will surely be more suitable than others |
| 12:47.14 | bilarh | i like the "breaking a brick with your knuckle" part and the finger tips :) |
| 12:47.29 | bilarh | i have no idea what he's doing, but it looks cool :) |
| 12:48.19 | bilarh | you may be right about the weight thing... i don't think being heavy is a problem, but having lots of lard bobbing about probably isn't that good as it's dead weight, as opposed to say muscles :) |
| 12:48.25 | goibhniu | if I was really motivated I'd love to learn the whip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhW67MBO8M8 |
| 12:50.28 | bilarh | i'm going to a buji seminar in a couple of months |
| 12:50.42 | bilarh | and i think buji means something like 'fingertips' or something |
| 12:50.45 | goibhniu | wow ... I never saw that meteor hammer before ... impressive |
| 12:50.58 | goibhniu | ahh ... cool |
| 12:52.20 | bilarh | biu jee, apparently :) |
| 12:52.51 | bilarh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biu_Jee |
| 12:53.35 | goibhniu | "dart fingers" .. nice |
| 12:57.00 | bilarh | that's a cool video :D |
| 12:57.09 | bilarh | talk about precision |
| 13:02.03 | goibhniu | imagine that meteor hammer coming at you! .. feck! ... knocking people heads off like that |
| 13:02.15 | goibhniu | guns ruined all that :( |
| 13:07.43 | bilarh | yeah :( |
| 13:07.59 | bilarh | i like the way he could kick that first thing as well.. |
| 13:08.03 | bilarh | really impressive :) |
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| 13:11.07 | goibhniu | have you seen "the shaolin temple"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079891/ it's full of that stuff .. my #1 favourite ++ |
| 13:11.22 | goibhniu | I'll lend it to you at the next meeting |
| 13:12.13 | bilarh | ah but that assumes i'm coming to the next meeting :-) |
| 13:12.16 | bilarh | when is it? |
| 13:12.56 | goibhniu | thursday week |
| 13:13.12 | bilarh | ah, i may be able to make it... I'll let you know nearer to the time :) |
| 13:13.27 | bilarh | where do you guys usually have meets anyway? |
| 13:13.31 | goibhniu | morsing's demoing his keyboard ... apart from that there may be beer |
| 13:13.32 | bilarh | and what do you do? :-) |
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| 13:13.45 | goibhniu | I dunno ... I've only been to two |
| 13:13.59 | goibhniu | often on thursdays so I couldn't make them |
| 13:14.02 | bilarh | the singing keyboard? :) |
| 13:14.16 | goibhniu | the talks at the ones I was at were very good |
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| 13:16.05 | goibhniu | bilarh: are you going to give a talk? |
| 13:16.18 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6611245.stm |
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| 13:20.07 | bilarh | goibhniu: a talk :-S |
| 13:20.20 | bilarh | on what? |
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| 13:20.44 | goibhniu | just your usual day to day wizardry? |
| 13:21.03 | bilarh | nah i think i'd like to see what everyone else speaks about :) |
| 13:21.12 | bilarh | i don't do any wizardry at the moment i'm afraid :( |
| 13:21.36 | goibhniu | e.g. one time a guy installed wordpress |
| 13:22.12 | goibhniu | last time a guy showed off some python stuff he used for quickly wrapping scripts with a gui |
| 13:22.30 | bilarh | oh right, sounds cool :-) |
| 13:22.37 | goibhniu | but sure ... it'd be worth sussing it out first |
| 13:22.38 | bilarh | but no, i don't have anything i want to demo yet :) |
| 13:23.41 | bilarh | i think i need to meet some more geeks anyway |
| 13:23.48 | bilarh | i feel like my powers are deserting me lately |
| 13:25.03 | bilarh | i don't even have a usable laptop at the moment (yeah i know, how lame am i?) :-) |
| 13:25.37 | catalyst | mandriva linux spring 2007 is... well, it actually Just Works (tm) :o |
| 13:25.43 | goibhniu | what ... you broke it? |
| 13:26.04 | bilarh | the cd is busted and the battery is flat :) |
| 13:26.06 | goibhniu | catalyst: you interested in giving a demo at the next meeting? |
| 13:26.42 | catalyst | depends when said meeting is but I suppose I could XD |
| 13:26.52 | goibhniu | how about a head to head for user oriented distros? |
| 13:27.11 | catalyst | I installed it on my laptop and it found all the hardware, including the wireless |
| 13:27.17 | catalyst | shame about the default theme really |
| 13:27.22 | goibhniu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.09 | wethrin | pong morsing |
| 13:28.17 | goibhniu | catalyst: I'm going to have to take a look at it ... I'm sick of recommending ubuntu for noobs |
| 13:28.37 | goibhniu | catalyst: thursday week maybe? |
| 13:29.32 | catalyst | got my dissertation handin that day as well as my grandfather's funeral the day after |
| 13:30.40 | goibhniu | oh ... sorry to hear about your grandfather |
| 13:30.56 | catalyst | :/ |
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| 13:32.11 | goibhniu | I just plucked thursday week out of the air to sound impressive ... I'd like to see a mdk demo and if you're up for it ... when would suit? |
| 13:32.37 | goibhniu | I think thursdays or saturdays are the usual times |
| 13:33.21 | wethrin | catalyst: Are you coming to the St. Andrew's mini-LBW? |
| 13:46.54 | niv_one_three | some one must write a program to translate woman spech |
| 13:46.57 | niv_one_three | speach |
| 13:47.13 | niv_one_three | so I can understand , for now I am in the mists |
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| 13:50.05 | failure | catalyst: sorry about that... It happened to me the same with my grandmother... 4 years ago... |
| 13:50.35 | failure | but my parents didn't tell me anything till i finished with the reading of my dissertation... |
| 13:51.33 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: you need to learn how to listen |
| 13:52.47 | niv_one_three | goibhniu: check |
| 13:53.33 | niv_one_three | oh ya , goibhniu and wethrin I found the transformer I borowed emits 120 VAC instead of 110 |
| 13:53.58 | niv_one_three | which explian why I smoked the previos transformer |
| 13:54.06 | wethrin | Whoops |
| 13:54.24 | wethrin | So that'd be some isolation, rather than a step-up |
| 13:55.10 | niv_one_three | guess I should take in to account that the "it works with that speaker phone in the meeting room" doesnt meen the transformer is OK |
| 13:55.41 | niv_one_three | it was attached to a power supply 110-125 VAC |
| 13:56.54 | niv_one_three | gather I should just buy a proper 220Vac to 24V charger instead of messing with the 110 charger |
| 13:57.52 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 13:57.55 | wethrin | They're not expensive |
| 13:59.16 | niv_one_three | I am worried even after switching capacitors, I would need to compansate for the higher heat on some parts |
| 13:59.24 | niv_one_three | and this is too complicated |
| 14:00.48 | wethrin | You wouldn't have higher heat - the power draw would be about the same |
| 14:00.57 | wethrin | And higher voltage = lower current = less heat |
| 14:01.09 | wethrin | P = I^2 * R |
| 14:01.14 | niv_one_three | oh ya - right - ohms law... |
| 14:01.32 | niv_one_three | very well I will think about it then |
| 14:01.49 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 14:01.51 | wethrin | It'll be easiest just to get a new supply |
| 14:02.05 | niv_one_three | more expensive , though |
| 14:02.06 | morsing | My keyboard has a life of it's onw |
| 14:02.08 | morsing | own |
| 14:02.11 | morsing | wethrin: Lunch? |
| 14:02.43 | wethrin | Already had some |
| 14:03.04 | morsing | yes, what did you have? |
| 14:03.15 | wethrin | The Usual |
| 14:03.25 | morsing | Carbonara. |
| 14:03.33 | wethrin | Yes |
| 14:03.39 | wethrin | With a cheesy garlic bread starter |
| 14:03.52 | morsing | wethrin: What's the name of the girl at the caf? |
| 14:04.00 | wethrin | eh? |
| 14:04.40 | morsing | That serves youON"T TELL ME YOU ON"T KOW HER NAE? |
| 14:04.48 | morsing | I give up. fucking keybord |
| 14:05.28 | wethrin | What caf? |
| 14:05.50 | morsing | Whee you havecarbonara |
| 14:06.48 | morsing | wethrin:? |
| 14:06.55 | morsing | Cawfy time |
| 14:07.17 | wethrin | hm? |
| 14:07.19 | mikejw | cwarfy |
| 14:07.24 | wethrin | Yes! |
| 14:07.32 | mikejw | :0] |
| 14:08.05 | wethrin | Dear WindowsXP, you're a steaming pile of shite. No love, Dan |
| 14:17.57 | bilarh | ah is that that hand held thingy? |
| 14:18.09 | bilarh | i had a work mate a couple of years back who was obsessed with journada's |
| 14:19.31 | goibhniu | it's not very hand held exactly ... or powerful ... http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:19.43 | goibhniu | but it has a keyboard and the batteries last 8 hours |
| 14:20.05 | bilarh | hmm no it wasn't one of them |
| 14:20.10 | bilarh | his ones were a lot smaller |
| 14:20.14 | bilarh | like almost like a palm top |
| 14:20.17 | goibhniu | and I got it for £50 and studied for the lpi on it |
| 14:20.18 | bilarh | but still with a qwerty keyboard |
| 14:20.27 | bilarh | lpi? |
| 14:20.46 | goibhniu | ah yeah .. someone had one of them at the software freedom day meeting last year |
| 14:20.49 | goibhniu | very nice |
| 14:21.06 | goibhniu | lpi linux cert |
| 14:21.54 | bilarh | this may be a complete numpty question, but what does lpi stand for then? :) |
| 14:22.23 | goibhniu | http://lpi.org/ |
| 14:22.36 | goibhniu | linux professional institute |
| 14:22.40 | bilarh | oh right |
| 14:23.06 | goibhniu | sys admins seem to think it's pointless and stupid |
| 14:24.15 | bilarh | nothing wrong with certs :) |
| 14:24.59 | goibhniu | so I'm very attached to this little palmtop ... we learnt a lot together :) |
| 14:25.56 | bilarh | hehe |
| 14:26.53 | wethrin | Sysadmins seem to think lots of certs are pointless and stupid :) |
| 14:27.19 | wethrin | LPI Level 1 basically shows you're aware of basic junior-level sysadmin commands |
| 14:27.30 | antiphase | Especially linux ones |
| 14:28.11 | wethrin | The RHCEs are supposed to be fairly decent |
| 14:28.37 | niv_one_three | what is RHCE? |
| 14:28.58 | failure | redhat certification |
| 14:29.29 | goibhniu | I was using linux for 3 years before I started studying for the lpi ... I didn't know a thing |
| 14:32.19 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: that looks nice alright ... I might actually pay for a phone when that comes out |
| 14:36.38 | Leeds | I think I'll be buying a treo 680 once I can justify the price - assuming there's no better Treo before then |
| 14:36.54 | wethrin | The exams were about a tenner, so I didn't care |
| 14:38.21 | Leeds | might have to see if the new job would spring for certification - I assume their Cisco and MS guys are certified... |
| 14:44.50 | goibhniu | yeh, sys admins who think the LPI is so pointless are probably just afraid they couldn't walk in off the street and pass it |
| 14:46.06 | morsing | mmmm... LPI |
| 14:46.11 | morsing | ~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~ |
| 14:46.26 | morsing | Reboot time |
| 14:47.12 | goibhniu | morsing: you should get it .. it tastes like beer |
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| 16:19.01 | niv_one_three | well, off to the gym |
| 16:19.52 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 16:21.00 | morsing | boudiccas? |
| 16:21.37 | boudiccas | away cooking tea |
| 16:21.58 | boudiccas | making sure that the sossidges don't get burnt again |
| 16:22.33 | bilarh | sossidges! |
| 16:23.07 | boudiccas | sossidges |
| 16:23.19 | boudiccas | i love my sausages |
| 16:24.04 | bilarh | yep, sossidges is the shit, definitely |
| 16:26.27 | bilarh | *sigh* i don't even get any spam nowadays... |
| 16:26.33 | bilarh | must uninstall MailScanner |
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| 16:42.25 | bilarh | someone please fast forward the time to 18:00? |
| 16:44.51 | failure | no, no... to 19:00 |
| 16:45.30 | bilarh | 19:00 is good, because i'll be almost at home by then :) |
| 16:45.39 | failure | :) |
| 16:46.43 | wethrin | 1900 works for me, because it'll be pubfood time |
| 16:48.50 | failure | ok, so now we agree about time, please someone press FF button |
| 16:49.47 | bilarh | i tried over here, but my button seems to be broken |
| 16:50.00 | bilarh | someone installed solaris on it, and now it's not working any more :( |
| 16:50.14 | failure | and mine run out of batteries... |
| 16:51.02 | hali | im dying for some ale! |
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| 16:55.04 | JosefAssad | moin |
| 16:55.27 | wethrin | mmm.....ale |
| 16:56.35 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 16:58.03 | sabinef72 | hey |
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| 17:01.05 | morsing | sabinef72: How are you? |
| 17:01.39 | morsing | sabinef72: Only three weeks left. Ready for visitors? |
| 17:07.28 | sabinef72 | morsing: always ready for visitors !!!!!!! |
| 17:08.15 | morsing | :) |
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| 20:14.25 | hali | apu |
| 20:14.44 | clive-h | re |
| 20:16.02 | antiphase | /(.+?)\/[^\/]+$/ |
| 20:19.14 | sanelson | 0.compile |
| 20:20.59 | clive-h | mmm |
| 20:21.54 | clive-h | i ought to put a+ on this laptop# |
| 20:27.34 | sanelson | what? |
| 20:29.57 | clive-h | a+ is a cross platform implementation of APL |
| 20:36.06 | goibhniu | ~wtf apl |
| 20:36.51 | clive-h | a programming language |
| 20:37.15 | clive-h | it's an array programming language |
| 20:37.43 | clive-h | originated on ibm mainframes circa 1970 |
| 20:38.28 | sanelson | right |
| 20:38.35 | sanelson | an historical curiositY? |
| 20:38.42 | clive-h | no |
| 20:38.56 | clive-h | still very much used |
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| 20:41.14 | clive-h | there's various linux ports of APL |
| 20:45.34 | xotl | "Dell to use Ubuntu on Linux PCs" is apparently the story that people have emailed to each other the most on the entire bbc news site. Out of the national news, international news, everything, this is the most popular. |
| 20:45.51 | xotl | amazing. |
| 20:45.57 | clive-h | strange |
| 20:46.10 | xotl | wouldn't have guessed that would be the case myself |
| 20:46.35 | xotl | its also the 5th most read story on the entire site |
| 20:46.41 | clive-h | i'd expected dell to chose pensuse |
| 20:47.03 | clive-h | opensuse |
| 20:47.18 | xotl | oh i thought that was a rude joke :-) |
| 20:47.53 | xotl | apparently michael likes ubuntu. has it on his own laptop at home |
| 20:47.55 | clive-h | the story that i was most interested was the XO laptop one |
| 20:48.31 | xotl | which is that? |
| 20:48.58 | clive-h | the one laptop per child thing |
| 20:49.09 | clive-h | it's called XO |
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| 20:49.50 | xotl | oh what does the "xo" thing mean? is it just some random marketing name or what? |
| 20:50.58 | xotl | you mean the one copy of windows per child project? |
| 20:50.58 | clive-h | the project is linux based |
| 20:50.58 | xotl | the $175 "$100 laptop" |
| 20:50.58 | clive-h | but i gather it can run doze |
| 20:50.59 | xotl | not exclusively |
| 20:51.16 | xotl | i thought that was the story you were referring to: that they'd sold out to MS |
| 20:51.37 | clive-h | they havent |
| 20:51.39 | xotl | which they probably have |
| 20:51.55 | clive-h | and it was about shipping it in the us |
| 20:52.28 | xotl | well i suppose we'll see whether they have or not. I'd be amazed if ms didn't try to interfere if the project is successful |
| 20:52.58 | clive-h | it'll run some vomitous version of doze |
| 20:53.32 | clive-h | but it'll ship with a cut down version of fedora |
| 20:53.42 | xotl | that plus strong-arm marketing could be enough. depends how much damage ms thinks the project could do |
| 20:54.08 | clive-h | it's an interesting project |
| 20:54.47 | xotl | yes, it'll be interesting to see what comes of it |
| 20:55.09 | xotl | i understand they have not even started volume production yet, though |
| 20:55.20 | clive-h | indeed not yet |
| 20:56.14 | clive-h | those laptops in the uk could have very interesting consequences |
| 20:56.41 | xotl | do they have built in wireless? 11g or something? |
| 20:56.46 | clive-h | yeah |
| 20:57.20 | clive-h | and a wifi that can run mesh mode when the laptop is powered down |
| 20:57.27 | xotl | yeah it could have quite a big effect here |
| 20:57.38 | clive-h | hence my comment |
| 20:57.38 | xotl | how does the mesh thing work? |
| 20:57.56 | clive-h | it's a marvell chip |
| 20:58.17 | clive-h | uses about 0.3w with the laptop off |
| 20:58.30 | clive-h | it has it's own arm cpu |
| 20:58.38 | xotl | what does it mesh with? only other laptops or what? |
| 20:58.51 | clive-h | other laptops yes |
| 20:59.11 | xotl | that could be interesting |
| 20:59.33 | clive-h | in uk metro areas they could be used to build a new internet |
| 20:59.53 | xotl | i thought mesh tech was still unreliable? |
| 21:00.23 | clive-h | they seem to have it sorted |
| 21:00.47 | xotl | i haven't heard about this. so are they looking to put it into normal laptops too? |
| 21:01.07 | clive-h | i'm not sure it'll go mainstream |
| 21:01.43 | xotl | why not? |
| 21:02.12 | clive-h | errm well TPTB might not be happy |
| 21:02.44 | clive-h | The Powers ThaT bE |
| 21:02.48 | clive-h | bE |
| 21:03.34 | xotl | for monitoring purposes or what? |
| 21:04.33 | clive-h | an autonomous internet would rather upset the government don't you think? |
| 21:05.34 | clive-h | and the isps for that martter |
| 21:05.40 | xotl | well you'd have to go through isp's at some point i would have thought |
| 21:06.12 | clive-h | only if you wanted to connect to the original net |
| 21:06.39 | xotl | so how would you access foreign servers with only a mesh? |
| 21:07.15 | clive-h | oh i suspect there would be gateways |
| 21:07.45 | xotl | i imagine you'd have bandwidth issues as well |
| 21:08.04 | clive-h | sure |
| 21:08.18 | xotl | i guess we'll all have to go out and buy our XO laptops then |
| 21:08.33 | clive-h | i don't intend to cease my ADSL any time soon |
| 21:09.08 | clive-h | but they're an interesting technology |
| 21:09.33 | xotl | yes, i'll definitely be interersted in following the story |
| 21:10.04 | clive-h | i'd buy one if i could |
| 21:10.51 | xotl | is there any timeline for when they'll be out yet? |
| 21:11.07 | clive-h | end of 2007 in the us |
| 21:11.20 | clive-h | no release date for the uk |
| 21:13.00 | clive-h | i can see a uk market for em for school kids |
| 21:13.50 | xotl | i wonder if other companies will try to make similar products if they catch on |
| 21:14.13 | clive-h | intel have something similar |
| 21:14.27 | goibhniu | seen the video on cnet? http://news.com.com/1606-2-6174584.html |
| 21:15.23 | xotl | thanks for the link, goibhniu. |
| 21:15.30 | clive-h | i'm impressed with the olpc project |
| 21:16.23 | goibhniu | have you tried running it on qemu? |
| 21:16.32 | clive-h | it's in the very best traditions of open source |
| 21:16.44 | clive-h | no i haven't yet |
| 21:16.46 | goibhniu | it's fun, looks like it could use some polish still though |
| 21:17.10 | clive-h | i think there's time to polish it up |
| 21:17.27 | goibhniu | the kids can finish it off :) |
| 21:18.37 | clive-h | olpc makes me remember why i got involved with open source |
| 21:18.45 | goibhniu | I hear there is already a linux based set top box in india for $100 ... different objectives and market but nice to see |
| 21:19.09 | clive-h | lots of embedded linux stuff |
| 21:20.11 | goibhniu | do you contribute to any particular embedded projects yourself? |
| 21:20.17 | clive-h | i'm sure the apple tv will run linux soon |
| 21:21.29 | clive-h | i'm a sysadmin |
| 21:21.45 | goibhniu | surely the apple tv can't do anything that a mythtv box hasn't been doing for years? |
| 21:21.46 | clive-h | i'm not a developer |
| 21:21.46 | goibhniu | hardly any point in running linux on it |
| 21:21.46 | goibhniu | ahh |
| 21:21.48 | clive-h | well yes mythtv makes sense |
| 21:22.25 | goibhniu | apple has just packaged proven technologies up and put a polo neck on it |
| 21:22.31 | clive-h | but there's a thing about running linux on anything we can |
| 21:22.57 | clive-h | like the NetBSD folks do |
| 21:23.35 | goibhniu | I'm sure people get a kick out of it |
| 21:23.46 | clive-h | apple tv can run os x |
| 21:24.03 | clive-h | it's interesting cos of that |
| 21:24.04 | goibhniu | the xbox linux was great ... especially since we knew ms were selling the boxes at a loss |
| 21:24.13 | clive-h | aye |
| 21:24.34 | clive-h | they have linux on xbox 360 |
| 21:25.00 | clive-h | but you need certaon versions of the ms kernel |
| 21:25.06 | clive-h | certain |
| 21:26.22 | goibhniu | I believe the ps3 makes it very easy to run linux |
| 21:26.36 | clive-h | yes and no |
| 21:26.57 | clive-h | like the xbox ps3 has a hypervisor |
| 21:27.26 | clive-h | it doesn't allow linux access bto the RSX sunsystem |
| 21:27.38 | clive-h | subsystem |
| 21:27.53 | clive-h | which is the graphics subsystem |
| 21:28.13 | clive-h | which is a tad naff |
| 21:28.24 | goibhniu | ahh ... shitbags |
| 21:28.38 | goibhniu | that's no fun at all |
| 21:28.42 | clive-h | aye |
| 21:29.06 | goibhniu | otherwise it would be quite an interesting platform |
| 21:29.16 | clive-h | yeah |
| 21:30.13 | clive-h | interesting kit |
| 21:30.40 | clive-h | dual core power pc |
| 21:30.53 | clive-h | 7 auxiliary processors |
| 21:32.11 | goibhniu | I heard that by default when it's idle (or else very easily) it runs folding @ home ... and is already one of the largest contributors |
| 21:32.11 | goibhniu | then again that was on lugradio |
| 21:32.24 | goibhniu | and they didn't sound like they knew much about it |
| 21:32.39 | clive-h | that might be yellow box |
| 21:33.23 | goibhniu | I think there are a couple of distros that can run on it |
| 21:33.31 | goibhniu | mandrake too iirc |
| 21:36.15 | clive-h | heh |
| 21:37.56 | goibhniu | hmm ... free noise http://www.dotcog.co.uk/ar01_cmn/0597_free_noise/index.html |
| 21:40.45 | goibhniu | ahh ... if there were a mailing list I'd suggest that for a social event |
| 21:41.07 | goibhniu | Sat 5 May LONDON ULU www.ulu.co.uk/ululive |
| 21:42.17 | clive-h | Interesting |
| 21:42.26 | clive-h | i like industrial music |
| 21:42.55 | clive-h | though i'm in west yorks saturday |
| 21:45.00 | clive-h | good choice |
| 21:45.50 | catalyst | I've seen them live, I reckon they're even better, got a lot of energy in their performances :) |
| 21:46.02 | catalyst | which is odd, I didn't think it was the sort of music that works well live |
| 21:46.30 | clive-h | i like tg and similar bands |
| 22:13.24 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 22:13.33 | catalyst | morsing! |
| 22:16.23 | morsing | catalyst: Kung Po dinner was a massive success and extremely spicy. Have spent a great of the night on the toilet. |
| 22:16.41 | catalyst | hehe |
| 22:17.21 | morsing | Funny cooking something I've never even had before |
| 22:17.27 | morsing | On request |
| 22:17.55 | morsing | Anyway - bedtime |
| 22:27.02 | sanelson | nn |
| 23:02.25 | catalyst | nn |
| 23:02.29 | catalyst | oh XD |