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03:43.53 | morsing | 'morning |
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04:41.38 | mumperer | Hi :) |
04:42.37 | morsing | mumperer! |
04:42.50 | morsing | mumperer: How are you? |
04:43.47 | mumperer | Morsing! Fine - ish, having woken early ... |
04:44.50 | mumperer | morsing: working? |
04:47.07 | morsing | mumperer: Not this week. Un-employed |
04:47.55 | mumperer | morsing: Oh. Bad. - and badderer! |
04:50.39 | mumperer | morsing: thinking of today's working environment I can only feel sorry for those having to deal with it. Seems vicious to me ... |
04:53.51 | mumperer | morsing: a cheering thought: in my recent years of local newspaper publishing (1980-04) I came across many chief executives and businessmen and managers - distinctly unimpressive. I would never have given them a job! |
04:56.29 | mumperer | My cat's zonked out after creeping in with the dawn ... wearing a slight smile ... |
04:58.29 | mumperer | morsing; I think I'll leave you to deal with this day - I'm off to try for more sleep. Cat's given me the idea! Later ... |
05:57.51 | morsing | Do you think it got lucky? |
06:44.29 | sanelson | no |
06:48.27 | morsing | ? |
06:56.40 | sanelson | 3 |
08:08.54 | bilarh | morning folks |
08:09.36 | bilarh | morsing: didn't you have a contract? |
08:35.05 | morsing | bilarh: I do. Starting next week |
08:36.37 | bilarh | oh right :-) |
08:36.45 | morsing | Gardening |
08:36.49 | morsing | Voting! |
08:36.58 | bilarh | gardening? that's your contract? |
08:40.33 | morsing | bilarh: Only this week |
08:43.20 | bilarh | cool :) |
08:43.29 | bilarh | i just got my car back from the garage as well |
08:43.46 | bilarh | so the weekend after next, the change-everything-project starts :) |
08:45.32 | clive-h | Good morning |
08:54.23 | antiphase | Wod up dawgz |
08:56.39 | morsing | bilarh: Change everything? |
08:58.06 | morsing | bilarh: Took old brake caliper off yesterday to replace with new one but I can't get the threads on the brake line fittings to frip :( I've done this before without problems... |
08:58.47 | bilarh | brake calipers are always real fuckers for rust |
08:59.12 | bilarh | they sit in the water and salt and grime down there and t hey just jam solid |
08:59.27 | bilarh | is it the pipe that goes into the caliper, or the one that comes off the brake line? |
08:59.30 | morsing | There's no rust, I think the angle of the line prevent the thread from gripping. I just can't see it being off |
08:59.37 | cpufreak | whats why most calipers are made out of alu |
08:59.38 | morsing | Goes into the caliper |
09:00.05 | morsing | Caliper is brand new, no rust |
09:00.06 | bilarh | cpufreak: i think you'll find most are still made of steel |
09:00.16 | bilarh | cast iron i mean |
09:00.34 | bilarh | not on high performance cars like your own, possibly, but most normal cars :) |
09:01.02 | bilarh | morsing: oh i see, you're trying to get stuff *into* the caliper :) |
09:01.51 | morsing | Yes |
09:04.08 | bilarh | sorry, i thought you had problems getting stuff off |
09:04.23 | bilarh | i had some small problems with the scooby with that too |
09:04.59 | bilarh | the problem for me was that the brake line pulled the bolt slightly to the side, so it wouldn't grip the thread |
09:05.18 | bilarh | i just kept at it and then it gripped eventually, but i can't see it being good for the thread |
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09:14.21 | morsing | failure! |
09:14.46 | morsing | bilarh: That's exactly the problem I have :) |
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09:29.44 | failure | morsing! |
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09:45.52 | morsing | goibhniu! |
09:47.21 | goibhniu | morsing! |
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09:51.03 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
09:52.31 | morsing | SlayerXP? |
09:52.33 | morsing | ping wethrin |
09:58.39 | morsing | ibot wake SlayerXP |
09:58.42 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on SlayerXP and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
09:59.09 | SlayerXP | i'm busy |
10:00.24 | morsing | SlayerXP: Ha ha ;-) |
10:04.40 | morsing | failure: HowÅ›'s your garden? |
10:06.20 | sabinef72 | morning |
10:10.09 | failure | my garden? |
10:12.40 | morsing | sabinef72! |
10:12.42 | morsing | failure: Yes |
10:13.16 | failure | green and full of flowers... |
10:13.39 | sabinef72 | hi morsing ! how are you ? |
10:15.13 | wethrin | morsing: yes? |
10:24.03 | morsing | wethrin: What did you have for lunch? |
10:24.22 | morsing | sabinef72: I good thanks :) Weather is not quite what it have been though... |
10:24.58 | morsing | has? |
10:26.03 | sabinef72 | morsing: here we have a big sun and it's around 26-28°C out |
10:28.06 | morsing | :) |
10:32.45 | morsing | wethrin: Do you want some SCSI cables? |
10:38.11 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
10:38.13 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on wethrin and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
10:46.03 | bilarh | goibhniu: i'm going to start training kung fu six hours per week :D |
10:48.20 | goibhniu | bilarh: holy shit! that's pretty serious! |
10:48.39 | goibhniu | bilarh: are you gonna be breaking blocks of concrete with your head soon? |
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11:01.16 | Leeds | evening all |
11:02.16 | bilarh | goibhniu: hehe not quite yet... i want to master the finger tip technique first :P |
11:02.35 | bilarh | goibhniu: my wife doesn't want to train any more, so i spoke to sifu yesterday and he said i could have her hours too |
11:02.59 | goibhniu | ahh .. that's cool |
11:03.21 | goibhniu | afternoon Leeds ... first day at work? |
11:03.24 | bilarh | and i passed my grading :-D |
11:03.30 | bilarh | so now i'm officially a grade 1 student :-) |
11:03.39 | bilarh | i.e. i've just made it onto the first beginner level :-D |
11:03.46 | bilarh | so watch out, everyone!! ;-) |
11:04.13 | goibhniu | oh weird ... I didn't think kung fu schools were into grading at all |
11:04.29 | goibhniu | do they have belts and stuff? |
11:04.50 | wethrin | morsing: I had nothing for lunch! |
11:04.55 | wethrin | morsing: What sort of SCSI cables? |
11:05.11 | bilarh | no, no.. |
11:05.23 | bilarh | it's just wing chun and tsun that have student grades |
11:05.46 | bilarh | it's only to do with what parts of the curriculum you've studied, apaprently |
11:05.58 | bilarh | and also the higher the grade, obviously the better you are supposed to be |
11:05.58 | goibhniu | bilarh: ahh, cool ... congrats! |
11:06.23 | bilarh | e.g. there's 12 student grades, and then after that i think there's like three technician grades etc etc |
11:06.39 | goibhniu | they had one test in the school I was in ... that was just to see if you were ready for learning weapons |
11:06.49 | bilarh | ah right |
11:08.05 | goibhniu | or maybe they had grades ... I dunno, I didn't ever get any anyway :) |
11:08.19 | bilarh | :-) |
11:10.04 | goibhniu | pity yr missus threw in the towel ... it's fun to have someone to practise with |
11:10.34 | morsing | wethrin: Assorted |
11:10.47 | wethrin | Sure |
11:11.24 | morsing | ranner! |
11:12.14 | morsing | Leeds! Any luck? |
11:12.18 | morsing | First day? |
11:12.31 | morsing | bilarh: How old are you? |
11:12.35 | Leeds | first day, went pretty well, going for some dinner now... |
11:14.00 | morsing | Beer |
11:15.01 | bilarh | morsing: 27 |
11:45.41 | morsing | h |
11:49.26 | morsing | Leeds: You back? |
11:51.02 | morsing | wethrin: What did you have for lunch? |
11:51.39 | wethrin | I haven't had lunch! |
11:51.39 | wethrin | Sigh |
11:51.42 | wethrin | You're so impatient... |
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12:25.24 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
12:25.25 | morsing | mikejw! |
12:25.34 | morsing | wethrin: Am I? |
12:25.42 | morsing | wethrin: You should have your lunch at 12 |
12:26.58 | dick_turpin | morsing: sorry phone |
12:27.10 | morsing | dick_turpin: I don't have your number...? |
12:28.54 | dick_turpin | morsing: lol |
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13:07.11 | mumperer | Hi - typed on my new Cherry keyboard! :) |
13:07.52 | wethrin | morsing: Why should I? |
13:07.55 | wethrin | 1pm is standard |
13:10.58 | goibhniu | hi mumperer! |
13:11.06 | goibhniu | have you got the new memory? |
13:11.51 | mumperer | Hi goibhniu! Hope you're OK - keyboard came - chip I assume will arrive tomorrow ... |
13:12.19 | goibhniu | ahh ... is it one of the nice ones with the penguin key ... or with blank keys? |
13:13.51 | mumperer | goibhniu: together with the Debian 4.0 dvds and the Ubuntu 7.04. Well to answer: I think it's nice - it doesn't move around, nice and clicky, white, all the letters present ... |
13:14.51 | mumperer | goibhniu: I suppose I can (eventually) set keys to do things - we'll see! |
13:15.26 | goibhniu | morsing: enhanced his keyboard for ubuntu recently ... morsing have you got some photos? |
13:16.57 | mumperer | goibhniu: morsing's kippin' |
13:17.53 | goibhniu | he's tending his dandelions I think |
13:18.14 | mumperer | Oooer - pea-the-beds! |
13:18.42 | boudiccas | pise-en-lit |
13:18.59 | mumperer | lol |
13:20.15 | goibhniu | mumperer: if you feel like enabling that nvidia card on your machine ... just say the word |
13:21.54 | mumperer | goibhniu: Oh! sounds good. Would that make it easier for Debian to get graphic when i get to install that? |
13:22.36 | goibhniu | it will only work on the system that you configure it for, but it's probably the exact same procedure |
13:23.09 | goibhniu | hmm ... maybe feisty does some magic for you .. I haven't tried it yet |
13:23.54 | goibhniu | there was some controversy about it, but I think there's a box you can tick somewhere instead of editing a file |
13:24.37 | mumperer | goibhniu: still and all, worth having a go? I can always re-install if I foul up! :-P |
13:24.53 | goibhniu | oh fun! |
13:25.04 | goibhniu | have you got everything backed up? |
13:27.25 | mumperer | goibhniu: now if you'd asked that yesterday (!) but never mind for now - let's see the wonders of life with an extra gig on board first, - sometime after tomorrow a.m. - eh? |
13:28.45 | mumperer | I've sorted a voluminous picture resource from my news days, I need to get that onto CD first, you see ... |
13:30.52 | mumperer | goibhniu: and SWMBO says don't do anything complicated until I've had a morning to think it through. She seems to know me well ... |
13:31.44 | mumperer | goibhniu: anyway, is morsing still cohabiting with dandelions? |
13:32.03 | goibhniu | hehe .. fair enough that sounds sensible |
13:32.57 | goibhniu | the only thing that can go wrong is that Xorg won't start and you get thrown out to a prompt ... if you have another computer and can get on irc, that can be fixed easily |
13:33.29 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; most deliveries are done lying down in the UK. you ask your local midwife and she will agree with me |
13:33.35 | boudiccas | :) |
13:34.21 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Gimme your purse or else |
13:34.32 | goibhniu | mumperer: if you're comfortable with editing text files from the command line with nano, vim or emacs this will not be any hassle ... otherwise it could be a bit of a nightmare |
13:36.36 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I haven't heard from your lawyers ... you obviously haven't seen the video yet :( |
13:36.47 | mumperer | goibhniu: no, one bit of kit. Do you have any idea what degree of preparation this elderly person will need tomorrow? Chip an' all? Text file editing? I've looked: emacs seems like turgid soup but I've played with the system-resident text editor, so far without any heavy load ... |
13:36.58 | Leeds | evening again, folks |
13:37.04 | dick_turpin | gimme the url again |
13:37.13 | mumperer | leeds! |
13:38.08 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: URL? |
13:38.31 | goibhniu | mumperer: the task before you is ... open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change one word from (probably) "vesa" to "nvidia" ... from a terminal |
13:38.48 | goibhniu | mumperer: if you can do that with any editor you've nothing to fear |
13:39.08 | goibhniu | but not with an editor that opens up in its own window ... like gedit or kate or something |
13:39.58 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: http://media.libsyn.com/media/directorsnotes/DN033__Lee_Meets_the_Psychics_-_Lee_Kern.mov |
13:41.33 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Cor blimey why ya gotta download the thing :-( |
13:41.58 | mumperer | goibhniu: ooooh. Orrite ... stand back for an eon or nine ... |
13:42.43 | goibhniu | mumperer: nano is a pretty easy one to use |
13:43.28 | bilarh | if you don't like emacs, vi is the only way forward |
13:43.36 | bilarh | goibhniu: stop confusing the kid! |
13:44.05 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its rubbish just keeps pretending to download |
13:45.44 | goibhniu | mumperer: I use vim myself ... but I would only recommend it to someone who spends most of their day editing code |
13:47.36 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: It refuses to download your having a laugh aren't you? |
13:47.43 | mumperer | goibhniu: I've just found nano - I'm looking ... |
13:48.19 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: open it on your arch box ... I don't support vista |
13:49.47 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Ha the Arch is at home but, FC7 is on another machine here at work (surely it should download?) |
13:51.18 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I have watched it three times already ... can't you use wget or something? |
13:51.49 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'll wget you in a minute |
13:58.10 | morsing | wethrin: No itÅt's not |
13:58.21 | morsing | goibhniu: Not yet :) |
13:58.43 | morsing | mumperer: No, shopping actually :) TescoÅ›'s got a mushroom and butter offer on :) |
13:58.52 | morsing | Mmm... Dandelions :) |
13:59.09 | morsing | boudiccas! |
13:59.28 | morsing | goibhniu? |
14:01.14 | morsing | Does the Gnome file browser not understand sftp/scp? |
14:02.55 | morsing | Hello? |
14:03.41 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I give up |
14:04.10 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: you suck |
14:04.22 | boudiccas | morsing; ! |
14:04.51 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: people are smearing your name all over the internet and you can't even blog about it! |
14:06.49 | goibhniu | morsing? |
14:07.28 | mumperer | goibhniu: I couldn't persuade Nano to find that xorg.conf file and tried Vi, or Vim - totally uncommunicative - perhaps at best a lousy screensaver. My head hurts ... I think I'll go avacuppa and let SWMBO utter kind words like there, there. Mail you later ... |
14:07.58 | goibhniu | ahh sorry ... I should have talked you through it |
14:08.05 | goibhniu | catch you later |
14:08.08 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its that rubbish URL all those ___ - _ _ ____ _ |
14:08.33 | mumperer | goibhniu: Hey, not you fault - laters ... |
14:08.55 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: http://directorsnotes.com/ 3rd thing down |
14:09.16 | gregj | lads |
14:09.44 | gregj | what's the best way to transfer money from scotland bank to hsbc, without paying 25 quid for the transfer ? |
14:09.50 | gregj | and the guy doesn't have paypal |
14:10.05 | gregj | s/lads/guys/ |
14:10.08 | bilarh | 25 quid? |
14:10.11 | gregj | yeah |
14:10.18 | bilarh | cant you just do a normal bank transfer? |
14:10.26 | bilarh | or you could walk into a branch and put money into his account |
14:10.27 | gregj | that's what they said about sending 100 quid from scotlandish shit to hsbsish shit |
14:10.29 | bilarh | cash is instant |
14:10.45 | bilarh | what instant transfer (i.e. 3-4 hours) or three days? |
14:10.51 | bilarh | the three day transfer is free for me |
14:10.54 | bilarh | and i'm with hsbc |
14:10.58 | gregj | hsbsish shit in edienburgh is closed atm, |
14:11.12 | bilarh | hrm |
14:11.16 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Thats better, if this is bad you'd better run "You can run but you cant hide" |
14:11.23 | bilarh | well, you can't even do a chaps any more, because it's too late :) |
14:11.34 | Leeds | I'm not with hsbc, unlike about 50% of people in H |
14:11.37 | bilarh | the only way is to find an hsbc office and put hard cold cash in the account directly :) |
14:12.13 | bilarh | gregj: we're talking transfers within gb, yes? |
14:12.27 | gregj | yup |
14:12.36 | Leeds | I can do transfers like that online |
14:12.43 | gregj | like I said one guy has 100 quid and account in scotish bank, another one hsbc |
14:12.52 | gregj | and the bank said - 25 quid for it |
14:13.10 | bilarh | that must have been for an instant transfer |
14:13.14 | clive-h | That's a bit insane |
14:13.18 | gregj | for 25 quid I can take a bus to edinburgh, and back to cambridge |
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14:16.54 | bilarh | is it some bolleaux about it being scottish? |
14:17.16 | boudiccas | mwop |
14:18.04 | bilarh | boudiccas: no, *you* mwop! |
14:19.19 | boudiccas | donkey mwop |
14:19.51 | boudiccas | [its the noise made by donkey in shrek 2 when they're going to the kingdom of far, far away] |
14:22.14 | gregj | hehe |
14:22.24 | tripitaka | anyone know a tool for decoding HTTP from tcpdump files? |
14:22.36 | gregj | I called the guy, and he confirmed, onlyu one branch of hsbc in edmb and it is fscking closed atm |
14:22.39 | bilarh | ethereal |
14:22.42 | bilarh | :P |
14:22.47 | gregj | insane country |
14:22.55 | bilarh | not helping you much if you've already got a tcpdump file i suppose |
14:22.59 | gregj | it is cheaper to send money overseas, than insode gb |
14:23.08 | gregj | inside |
14:23.09 | bilarh | although i believe ethereal can import some types of dump files |
14:24.43 | tripitaka | bilarh: ethereal / wireshark can read tcpdump, snoop etc. I have a tcpdump with reams of HTTP in it, I'm looking for something which reads it and prints pretty 'sites viewed, data passed' etc |
14:25.07 | tripitaka | staring at tcpdumps makes my eyes water after a while |
14:25.25 | Leeds | gregj: lots and lots and lots of branches here |
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14:27.05 | gregj | it's a worlds's bank, but not scottish bank |
14:29.29 | hali | hm, strange not even goldman sachs charge me that much when i transfer between countries |
14:32.51 | gregj | well, I'll ask him to write a cheque and post it to me |
14:32.57 | gregj | for fsck sake.. |
14:33.35 | morsing | tripitaka! |
14:33.48 | tripitaka | hello morsing |
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14:45.03 | goibhniu | morsing: of your keyboard |
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15:06.56 | morsing | goibhniu: I know |
15:07.14 | morsing | goibhniu: Should I go for a run? |
15:07.21 | Leeds | yes |
15:07.30 | morsing | Leeds? |
15:12.58 | Leeds | go for a run |
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15:13.47 | boudiccas | drink half a bottle of syrup of figs! that'll make you run! |
15:16.05 | Leeds | ibot rimshot |
15:16.07 | ibot | ba-dum CHH |
15:17.28 | morsing | ibot you suck |
15:17.30 | ibot | and very well I might add |
15:25.56 | Leeds | ibot :-) |
15:25.58 | ibot | *^_^* |
15:29.26 | morsing | ibot :-( |
15:30.26 | morsing | ibot :-( |
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15:48.22 | morsing | ceronman! |
15:58.06 | sanelson | ibot seen murb |
15:58.25 | ibot | murb <n=murbix@blue.danu.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 46d 2h 58m 16s ago, saying: 'or 1 years worth of experience * 8'. |
16:18.21 | morsing | sanelson: Where did Paul go? |
16:20.52 | sanelson | paul? at dlr? I don't know |
16:20.58 | sanelson | has he gone somewhere? |
16:21.54 | morsing | sanelson: Sorry, no, Paul Rundle at Home Retail Group |
16:22.12 | morsing | He hasn't responded to emails for hours |
16:23.05 | morsing | sanelson: You do know I'm not at Attenda anymore, right? |
16:23.05 | sanelson | right... was that a random question, then? As I have no idea about Paul Rundle. |
16:23.05 | morsing | sanelson: It was one of my usual random questions, yes :) |
16:24.56 | morsing | Thanks :) |
16:25.07 | morsing | sanelson: I miss Carla though :( |
16:25.15 | sanelson | erm :( |
16:25.19 | sanelson | no , intended |
16:25.20 | morsing | sanelson: Did you meet her? |
16:25.59 | morsing | Right, time to cook dinner |
16:26.58 | popey | morsing: heard any more from Simon? |
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16:43.39 | morsing | Jasperw! |
16:43.45 | morsing | popey: Simon? |
16:43.54 | morsing | popey: Nope, his quiet |
16:43.56 | popey | beerandspeech |
16:43.58 | morsing | he's |
16:43.59 | popey | :( |
16:44.01 | popey | miss him |
16:44.06 | morsing | Me too :( |
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17:10.24 | morsing | ceronman! |
17:10.26 | morsing | clive-h! |
17:14.04 | clive-h | hi all |
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17:30.13 | morsing | clive-h: How are you? |
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17:38.59 | goibhniu | morsing: where will you go? |
17:42.18 | clive-h | I'm so so, you? |
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18:07.48 | morsing | Jasperw! |
18:07.51 | morsing | clive-h! |
18:08.05 | morsing | goibhniu: Back to the real world |
18:08.11 | [Clive] | Hi morsing |
18:08.14 | morsing | clive-h: I'm ok thanks |
18:08.21 | morsing | [Clive]: Why only so so |
18:08.36 | [Clive] | A bit of a cold |
18:08.41 | morsing | 'k |
18:08.48 | morsing | But not depressed? |
18:33.28 | clive-h | Well I have some interviews next week |
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20:04.29 | morsing | jon_n! |
20:04.31 | morsing | sanelson_! |
20:04.33 | morsing | eye69! |
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21:34.20 | sanelson_ | golly |
22:33.31 | ranner | sanelson_: golly what? |
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23:56.11 | Leeds | gosh, one would assume |