IRC log for #gllug on 20070511

00:00.02Leedswe get along well, we've both got busy social lives, which sometimes intersect and sometimes don't, so we're not on top of each other all the time... I leave about the time she gets up, so there's no clashing in the morning... etc
00:01.26z00daxcool, sounds like its all falling into place now.
00:02.03z00daxtake it easy, I am going to head off in the general direction of $bed now
00:02.12Leedsyeah, it's not bad... still got to get the visa sorted, and the first paycheque in, but then it should be good
00:02.16Leedsg'night, sleep well
00:02.51z00daxthink i will just go get some sleep now
00:02.54z00dax:D
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03:57.18goibhniumorsing!
05:41.27mumperergoibhniu: morning! :)
05:42.55mumperergoibhniu: i recall somehow you're off on a fortnight's holiday any day now - somewhere sunny, like Clapham?
05:54.00goibhniumornin mumperer!
05:54.15goibhniuit's been an all nighter for me I'm afraid
05:54.41goibhniuthe gf is handing in her disertation this morning ... let's hope the printer still works!
06:04.05mumperergoibhniu: condolences - you need you sleeve unravelling, or something Shakespearian!
06:06.27mumperermust go - tea-making for SWMBO as she brings the morning papers in - bye for now ...
07:12.38sanelsonmorning chums
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09:12.48deep-blueserris, fancy seeing you here
09:13.17serrisWell yes, it was reletively difficult being here without net access
09:13.58deep-bluethis is true
09:14.51bilarhhmm
09:22.47deep-bluehmm indeed
09:27.51bilarhi was about to type something into the wrong window as usual
10:18.39wethrinmorsing: beer!
10:18.45wethrin~seen morsing
10:19.48ibotmorsing is currently on #gllug (6h 26m 45s), last said: 'That's stupid (as usual for Linux)'.
10:22.04sanelsonwethrin: woo
10:23.02wethrinsanelson!
10:23.25wethrinsanelson: Does your phone number still end in 010?
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10:50.44bilarhwtf, do you need to connect to a valid dns name in jabber or somethign?
10:50.53bilarhsorry gaim
10:51.17bilarhi'm trying to connect to a jabber server on my local host at ip 127.0.0.1 and it's just saying "host unknown"
10:51.39geospartyou have two server sections
10:51.45geospartone for say your domain
10:51.52geospartand the other for the real server
10:51.58geospartmake it the ip of the machine
10:52.26bilarhi set both to 127.0.0.1 :(
10:52.44geospartno
10:52.58geospartif say your using a server like ejabberd
10:53.08geospartor something you can setup multiple domains
10:53.27bilarhoh right.. so it's not actually the dns domain, but rather some "server domain" type thing?
10:53.27geospartdoes not matter what you call it as long as it matches whats in the jabber server
10:53.41geospartcall it toecheese.com or something
10:53.47geospartyup
10:53.54geospartthen for the real server
10:53.56bilarhexcellent, cheers dude :)
10:54.02geospartput the actual ip address
10:54.06geospartnp
10:54.14geospartI ran a jabber server for three years
10:54.16geosparthaha
10:54.28bilarhaha, it works :D :D
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10:55.11geospartcoolness
10:55.13geospartsee
10:56.33sanelsonrhowe: !!
10:56.53sanelsonbeer? today?
10:57.19wethrinYes!
10:57.24wethrinI'll be there!
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11:41.38Leedsevening folks
11:42.09geospartmorning here..ha
11:42.12wethrinLeeds!
11:46.25Leedsworking sucks
11:47.01wethrinGo back to being underemployed!
11:48.07Leedsnot until I've been paid once or twice and got a visa, I think :-)
11:50.32wethrinAny plans to return to Blighty, then, even as a holiday?
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11:52.43JosefAssadmoin
11:56.38LeedsI'm going to a wedding in Spain in September... assume I'll pass through the UK then
12:00.29Leedsprobably only for a day or two though
12:05.24JosefAssadeh, my fiancee is dropping by london this week for a day... interview
12:08.38JosefAssadand I have to go to Beirut. Bah.
12:17.23sanelsonSlayerXP: ping
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13:08.01failureLeeds: where about in Spain?
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13:50.49rhowesanelson: Hmm.. perhaps
13:51.04rhowesanelson: Got my shirt? :)
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15:19.51Leedsbattery at 3% - time for power!
15:19.57Leedsfailure: Costa del Sol
15:20.09failureI'm from Malaga :)
15:20.44Leedsooh, so if I say Estepona, you won't say "never heard of it"?
15:22.19Leedshttp://maps.google.es/?ie=UTF8&ll=36.430917,-5.118942&spn=0.0101,0.016308&z=16&om=1 to be precise
15:22.20failurei know Estepona
15:22.32failurebeen there serveral times
15:22.54LeedsI've been more than serveral times - more like 10-15 :-)
15:23.43failurei was born in
15:23.46failurehttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=la+linea,+cadiz&sll=53.098145,-2.443696&sspn=11.967202,30.761719&ie=UTF8&ll=36.318445,-5.144348&spn=0.501246,0.961304&z=10&om=1
15:24.38failureand i lived here for the last 11 years:
15:24.41failurehttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=malaga&ie=UTF8&ll=36.57363,-4.750214&spn=0.4996,0.961304&z=10&om=1
15:24.45Leedsof course, I've been to Gib quite a few times
15:24.54failureso every  now and the i had to pass through estepona
15:27.02Leedswell, I lived around http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=malaga&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=51.598934,-0.235348&spn=0.031936,0.065231&z=14 for years, and have now been somewhere near http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=malaga&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=22.280201,114.185715&spn=0.190296,0.260925&z=12 for a couple of years now
15:28.47Leedsthe motorway from Malaga to La Linea is pretty good nowadays - no need to go near Estepona if you don't want to... we first started going to that area on holiday maybe 20 years ago, and the roads weren't anything like as good then
15:35.54failureyes, i know...
15:35.54failurebut i used to go by bus
15:36.29failurethat takes through the coast
15:36.49JosefAss1deh... would it be a pleasant walk from paddington station to charing cross?
15:37.00failureso a journey that takes 1h15 by car, takes almost 3 hours by bus :s
15:37.24failureJosefAss1d: a nice walk of... 50 minutes or so, i thinkg
15:37.38JosefAss1dfailure: hm, okay.
15:37.42Leedsah, I don't do public transport in Spain - in fact, it's the first foreign country (i.e. not UK) that I drove in, the first place I drove on the right, etc.
15:37.47JosefAss1dfailure: but nice?
15:38.08LeedsJosefAss1d: dude, it's London - it's not a walker's city
15:38.17failurewell, i don't know the shortest way
15:38.27JosefAss1dLeeds: I wouldn know. Doing somescouting for my fiancee
15:38.35JosefAss1dgah, got to run
15:38.49failurebut if you follow regents canal, go to camdem... and then king cross, it should be nice
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16:07.58sanelsonrhowe: oooh, probably!
16:17.17rhoweIt's going to be wet
16:41.12bilarhfailure: nice?! in kings cross?
16:41.18bilarhalong the canal?
16:41.26bilarhall you get down there is like druggies injecting their latest hit
16:41.31bilarhor hassling you because they're high
16:41.33bilarhimo :-)
16:41.36bilarhi would stay well out
16:41.40bilarhbut i'm a pussy
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17:20.42boudiccasz00dax; are you coming tonight :) ?
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22:20.43trousers_http://www.gllug.org.uk/ == dead.
22:59.28antiphaseukfsn is probably dead, along with Jason Clifford
23:03.43linux_learnertrousers_, i wouldnt say dead
23:03.51linux_learnerlife has peaks and valleys
23:04.00linux_learneryou can't always have peaks
23:04.58linux_learneralthough the raid was poorly planned
23:05.28linux_learnerraids are meant for hot swapping, and data replication
23:05.37antiphaseo_O
23:05.52linux_learnerhad it been done this way, the mailing lists could be up now
23:10.46linux_learnerhttp://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=55295&pid=230288&st=0&#entry230288
23:17.18clive-hoh mi gawd
23:18.02linux_learnersorry, that link belonged in another channel
23:18.14clive-hDuh
23:18.18linux_learnerlol
23:18.59linux_learneri have 10 channels open
23:18.59geospartI saw activity here..and its you LL..ha
23:18.59linux_learneralmost all Linux
23:18.59linux_learnerhey geospart
23:18.59clive-hless distro advocacy in here would be good
23:19.01linux_learnerthats fine
23:20.50linux_learneri dont typically advocate a particular distro
23:20.50geosparthey all
23:20.50clive-hit's supposed to be a general linux channel
23:20.50linux_learneri see distros as like ice cream
23:20.50linux_learnerlike i said clive-h it was an accident
23:20.50clive-hi saw
23:20.50linux_learneras in unintentional
23:20.50linux_learnerif i was going to post a link here
23:20.51linux_learnerit'd be on the raid 5
23:20.51linux_learnernot on a distro
23:20.51linux_learnersince raid 5 would be relavent to what i had previously been talking about
23:20.51clive-hwell raid 5 is good if you have the budget
23:20.51linux_learnerwhere as that link i posted didnt fit in to anything at all
23:20.51linux_learnerindeed it is
23:21.19linux_learnerbut then why waste the time with raid at all, if ya can't afford it
23:21.36clive-hat home I don't
23:21.45linux_learnerthe point of raid, is for data replication, incase of hardware failure
23:22.33clive-herrr that's the point of some modes of raid
23:22.42linux_learneryup
23:22.49clive-hnot all
23:22.59linux_learnerto run a raid with out replication, is a waste
23:23.16clive-hin your opinion
23:23.16linux_learnerand to run it with out parity is stupif
23:23.21linux_learnerstupid
23:23.21clive-hin your opinion
23:23.29linux_learneryes in my opinion
23:23.58linux_learnerbut then, the mailing lists is down
23:24.09clive-hand ?
23:24.45linux_learnerwell, had it been set up with a hot swapable raid 5, you'd be back up by now
23:24.57linux_learnerswap it out and go
23:25.00linux_learnerdone
23:25.13clive-hThere's a non-sequitur
23:26.17clive-hJason provides resources as a service to the community
23:26.32clive-hIt's not a commercial service
23:26.49clive-hYou get what you pay for
23:26.52linux_learnermaybe have the users of the lug contribute to the server, and thus to the raid
23:27.31linux_learneri have a server, and dont run a raid, and do manual backups
23:27.56linux_learnerthis way, if i go down, i can get the info back quickly and easily
23:27.56clive-hpaying for things isn't entirely the linux way
23:28.12linux_learnerlol true
23:28.17clive-hunless it's beers in the pub
23:28.17linux_learnervery true
23:28.26linux_learneri hear ya
23:32.11linux_learnerclive-h, i take it you have some sort of backup
23:32.19linux_learnerand its just a matter of hardware now
23:32.48clive-hReally why do you think that?
23:33.01linux_learnersop thats why
23:33.09clive-hFor home systems I don't back stuff up
23:33.33linux_learneri have several for my home systems
23:33.35clive-hwhen I'm working i'm very diligent about backup
23:34.22clive-hI back some filesystems up at home
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