IRC log for #gllug on 20070522

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10:19.17kokozedmanhi folks!
10:19.24kokozedmaneverybody's asleep ? haha
10:20.46geospartsomeone has to be awake .......  
10:21.04geospartI mean I should be asleep its 6:20 am here
10:21.19kokozedmanmm ... zzz
10:21.55haligreat music player for .nsf files :)
10:22.11geospart.nsf files are lotus notes files
10:22.12geospartha
10:22.18geospartsorry do lotus support
10:22.26kokozedmanany linux kernel experts ?
10:22.40kokozedmanin device and ACPI area ?
10:23.20antiphaseHeh
10:24.51hali.nsf files are NES stero format :)
10:25.25haliNintendo 8 bit music
10:25.29haliexcellent!
10:26.31geospartme thinks lotus got there first ..... in os2warp days for taking the .nsf extension ....  notes system file I think...which is a database ....  and then the infamous .ntf..which is a template file .....  
10:26.33geosparthaha
10:26.43geospartsorry look at hundreds of them daily
10:27.17rhoweany OpenBSD fools around?
10:27.31geospartanyone know acpi ....for kokozedman
10:27.33kokozedmanheh
10:28.46kokozedmanlooks-like the experts need to wake-up! :)
10:29.11kokozedmani have a hardware problem: sound card device problem
10:29.26kokozedmanwhen there is a parasite (in the power, or around the PC), it gets turned-off
10:29.30geospartsorry kokozedman ...wish I knew more
10:30.13kokozedmanthe work-around i found to re-enable the sound card is to hibernate the PC, but when starting to save to the swap FS, i cancel, using Backspace
10:30.17kokozedmanthen it gets back on
10:30.19kokozedmanbut,
10:30.29kokozedmanthat solution is kinda ... no elegant
10:30.48kokozedmani'm not planning to buy a new motherboard soon
10:30.59kokozedmanso, i'm trying to find a quirk
10:31.22kokozedmanit's the motherboard's fault
10:31.38Ch0HagIf you need a daemon which can be told to do things like reboot the computer or start/stop system services, is it better to just run it as root (or suid) or use something like sudo?
10:32.47kokozedmanif there is something in the Kernel, that could detect that the sound card is down, then, the daemon would be useful
10:32.55kokozedmanbut currently, there is none
10:33.05kokozedmancause it's a hardware fault
10:34.04geospartif its just the sound card could you not get a usb or pci sound card ....  they should not be too expensive .....
10:34.13geospartand disable the one on the mb
10:34.26kokozedmanstrange to me
10:34.37kokozedmanbut my mb is striked by the thunder
10:34.43kokozedmanand all PCI ports are dead
10:34.46kokozedman:(
10:34.50geospartdang
10:34.50kokozedmanonly USB remains
10:35.03Ch0HagMotherboards are only cheap.
10:35.29antiphaseIt sounds like you'd be better off just speding a few quid on a new motherboard instead of wasting hours trying to solve a silly problem
10:35.29kokozedmani've been looking for USB sound cards, but they're not popular in my place, and i still haven't found one
10:36.00kokozedmani don't really consider it a silly problem:
10:36.02Ch0Hagkokozedman: Try looking for 'usb headsets' or something of that ilk.
10:36.12kokozedmanthis is a gateway to another challenge for me
10:36.34antiphaseBuy a new motherboard and spend your time improving some other software that people can benefit from ;)
10:37.14kokozedmanpeople can benefit from that trick too, if we find that
10:37.17kokozedmanimagine:
10:37.29kokozedmanu can manully turn on/off any of you devices!
10:37.37geospartyeah but kokozedman is not ine the easiest place to buy tech stuff either
10:37.39kokozedmanitsn't that cool ? :)
10:38.44kokozedmanyeah! that's true
10:38.58kokozedmanwe get almost the double in price for hardware
10:39.10antiphaseHow about on eBay?
10:39.16antiphase10 quid for a mobo
10:39.31kokozedmanand the worst, they're not of quality
10:39.42kokozedmanno eBay at my country buddy!
10:39.45kokozedmani'm in africa
10:39.55kokozedmanmore precisely: Madagascar
10:40.01geospartI have had stuff DHL'ed from overseas before...not sure if you could...you would just need to find a comapny that would not kill you on shipping costs
10:40.33kokozedman:)
10:41.00kokozedmanthere's the DHL here! they're good
10:41.01geospartheck and I thought it was bad only have 5 computer stores in my city ..
10:41.04kokozedmanbut their expensive
10:41.06kokozedman:)
10:41.54kokozedmanoups!
10:41.59kokozedmani'm feeling too hungry
10:42.06kokozedmanlater guys
10:42.43geospartlater me too .....  
10:44.18antiphase62/8 was allocated to RIPE last time I looked
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13:19.00boudiccasDid you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He's all right now.
13:21.05dick_turpinboudiccas: Lol
13:21.48boudiccas"I don't deserve this award, but I have arthritis and I don't deserve that either."--Jack Benny
13:24.00dick_turpin"The great thing about being my age is there's nobody left to look up to, there all dead" (Forget his name, American comedian, glasses and a big cigar)
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13:29.02kokozedmanhahah
13:31.30JosefAssadwasn't there this funny keystroke in vim to complete entire lines? Like ctrl-n but for a whole line and not just a word?
13:39.01JosefAssadah, ctrl-x l
13:40.42halibilarh: you're very idle
14:01.18kokozedmanlooks as if everybody is asleep now!
14:01.26kokozedmanhaha
14:04.09dick_turpinibot: wake everyone up
14:04.11ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on everyone up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
14:04.39dick_turpinkokozedman: :-)
14:04.46kokozedman:)
14:57.00LeedsHKevening all
14:57.10LeedsHKdick_turpin: george burns
15:22.20dick_turpinLeeds: That's the one
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16:07.38Ch0HagIs it worth buying an old sun monitor for £20?
16:11.46antiphaseDepends if you want one
16:14.30Ch0HagI'm sure I could find a use for it.
16:15.32antiphaseDoorstop, or chuck it in a lake and poison some fish
16:19.05Ch0HagIndeed yes.
16:19.21Ch0HagOr even use it to see things produced by a computer.
16:19.54antiphaseA 13W3->VGA adapter and a modern monitor might do just as well, mind you
16:21.57Ch0HagThat's the question really.
16:22.08Ch0HagIs it or a modern monitor better.
16:33.53boudiccasCh0Hag; define 'better' :)
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18:34.13wethrinCh0Hag: No. Wait until you can get one for free
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19:15.28goltoranyone use freebsd 6.2 and have any issues booting off the boot_only image (CD) ?
19:21.30JosefAssadtried yes, issues no
19:36.57goltorstrangeness, checksum's fine
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19:58.04pawel:)
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23:25.47resudaedanyone up?
23:27.09rhowehttp://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/46248/1178102256.gif
23:29.12resudaedrandom
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