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| 06:50.07 | serris | morning all |
| 06:58.35 | clive-h | morning |
| 06:58.44 | serris | How's it going? |
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| 07:25.45 | serris | hi sabinef72 |
| 07:25.49 | sabinef72 | morning all |
| 07:26.13 | serris | how's it going? |
| 07:26.23 | sabinef72 | I'm ok and you ? |
| 07:26.44 | serris | Ok I guess. Someone broke into my house last night |
| 07:26.58 | sabinef72 | oh my god |
| 07:27.11 | sabinef72 | did he stole a lot of things ? |
| 07:27.16 | serris | Not really |
| 07:27.20 | serris | He was rather retarded |
| 07:27.34 | sabinef72 | lucky |
| 07:27.42 | sabinef72 | so you went to the police this morning ? |
| 07:27.44 | serris | Stole 2 bags with uhm my sons diapers and babyclothes in 'em, my wife's phone was in it, my wife's £700 digital SLR |
| 07:28.11 | serris | The only problem with the digital SLR is that it was 2 feet from her head while she was sleeping with the baby |
| 07:28.21 | serris | Oh and my booze got stollen |
| 07:28.29 | serris | Unopened bottle of whisky and a bottle of beer |
| 07:28.48 | sabinef72 | that's amazing |
| 07:28.50 | serris | Well it was a Newcastle Brown Ale |
| 07:28.54 | serris | : ( |
| 07:29.04 | serris | haha |
| 07:29.17 | serris | Yeah the police just left. Took them 2 hours to come out |
| 07:29.28 | bilarh | how did they break in? |
| 07:29.29 | serris | Oh and some of my loose change |
| 07:29.34 | serris | Back door was unlocked |
| 07:29.39 | bilarh | ah right |
| 07:29.44 | serris | But the window was open next to it cause of the house being way too hot |
| 07:29.49 | serris | so it would've been no effort to climb in |
| 07:29.59 | bilarh | you live in london? |
| 07:30.34 | serris | But the dumb thing is that we have a laptop, 2 LCDs, 1 CRT, 3 computers out on display, we have a TV just 2 feet from the door with a XBOX, a freeview box and an n64 |
| 07:30.52 | serris | yet he goes for a £5 pay as you go phone and a camera he'll probs make £20 if that down the local pub |
| 07:30.53 | bilarh | maybe they didnt' wanna hang around in case your wife woke up :-) |
| 07:30.55 | serris | And yes, around hounslow |
| 07:31.02 | bilarh | ah, sucks |
| 07:31.12 | serris | But they didn't take any of the xbox games, DVDs or anything like that. |
| 07:31.22 | serris | They took a phone without a charger and no credit |
| 07:31.34 | serris | There were 4 XBOX controllers on display too |
| 07:31.37 | serris | 6 other cameras |
| 07:31.56 | serris | He tried to use my phone charger as that was out on display to see if it worked with the phone but it didn't |
| 07:31.59 | serris | so he left it |
| 07:32.29 | serris | He left half the content of the bags in the room and my son's pants just outside the door. Didn't even close the door nor turn the light off. Left a kitchen cupboard door open |
| 07:33.04 | bilarh | hmm |
| 07:33.07 | serris | And the funny thing is, he only took the 10p coins from the change |
| 07:33.16 | bilarh | you have to remember that he was probably high on heroin or something :-) |
| 07:33.17 | serris | there were 2 cups filled wiht 1p and 2p coins, 5p coins and what not |
| 07:33.40 | serris | yep, which is why I'm happy he just took all that and left rather than do something to my wife who was asleep |
| 07:33.54 | serris | There was about a £1 all together in the two cups |
| 07:34.35 | serris | It's retarded cause he could've taken the DVDs that are all over and make more money on those as they're all legit and most of 'em are special editions than the camera it self |
| 07:34.43 | serris | Or the phone at that |
| 07:36.11 | serris | Now we're just waiting for the forensics team to come down here to see if they can find anything |
| 07:42.14 | bilarh | man, burglar suck :( |
| 07:42.49 | bilarh | good case for legalising must drugs, imo |
| 07:44.11 | serris | The problem won't go away. |
| 07:44.52 | bilarh | it might be alleviated :) |
| 07:45.13 | serris | alleviated? |
| 07:45.36 | bilarh | made less worse |
| 07:45.51 | serris | Ah right |
| 07:45.56 | serris | Depends really |
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| 07:51.10 | bilarh | well, not all crime is drugs related, but i bet a lot of it is :-) |
| 07:51.32 | serris | I'm pretty sure this was |
| 07:55.38 | bilarh | oh man, it's uncomfortably hot outside |
| 07:55.40 | bilarh | it sucks |
| 07:55.49 | serris | yep |
| 07:55.52 | bilarh | give me snow and ice over this any day i'm at work :) |
| 07:56.00 | bilarh | sunshine is nice when you're out in the garden |
| 07:56.06 | serris | hehe |
| 07:56.09 | bilarh | but when in the office, it's just depressing :) |
| 07:56.30 | serris | I was at work 'till this burglary thing came up |
| 07:56.47 | serris | Lucky I got offered a 9 hour over time shift on Sunday. |
| 08:05.50 | bilarh | erm.. how is that lucky? :P |
| 08:06.05 | bilarh | i'd hate to know what "unlucky" means in your book :) |
| 08:06.49 | serris | I had to leave work 2 hours early. Which means they're short timeing me |
| 08:07.01 | bilarh | oh right |
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| 08:49.05 | eyore | trying to make IPv6 more popular: http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ |
| 08:49.10 | eyore | it amused me |
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| 08:58.25 | clive-h | hi again |
| 09:00.34 | boudiccas | rehi clive-h |
| 09:01.10 | clive-h | hi boudiccas |
| 09:26.37 | phearless | hi guys ! |
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| 09:41.33 | Leeds | very quick update to my odd script problem from the other day... it was all an SELinux problem! |
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| 09:50.34 | wethrin | Hah. SELinux bites again! |
| 10:09.28 | SlayerXP | Diego wins the Vague Question Of The Month contest. |
| 10:11.47 | wethrin | Will you give the Vague Answer of the Month? |
| 10:11.57 | wethrin | diego gentoo? :) |
| 10:16.00 | wethrin | Hm. Sounds like he wants Javascript |
| 10:30.07 | Ch0Hag | How can I persuade somebody to change from exim to postfix, when the only reason I can think of is that I don't want to have to learn a new mailer's configuration. |
| 10:34.40 | antiphase | Why would you want to? |
| 10:38.45 | Ch0Hag | Because I don't want to have to learn a new mailer's configuration. |
| 10:40.12 | Ch0Hag | Plus I prefer to use configuration files of a couble of hundred lines rather than a couple of thousand. |
| 10:42.38 | Ch0Hag | Although a basic postfix server is usually more like 10-20 lines. |
| 10:46.24 | antiphase | So is a basic Exim |
| 10:46.36 | antiphase | You just have to know what's required and what's extraneous |
| 10:47.12 | antiphase | The last horrifyingly complex Exim config I wrote was 330 lines |
| 10:47.28 | antiphase | which was more than enought to be able to do very bad things |
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| 11:57.35 | wethrin | Leeds! |
| 11:58.36 | Leeds | yes! |
| 11:59.15 | wethrin | SELinux sucks! |
| 12:01.10 | Leeds | yes, apparently ;-) |
| 12:03.33 | wethrin | Old news :) |
| 12:04.20 | Leeds | no bugger thought of suggesting it, however... |
| 12:05.27 | wethrin | It's default - always disable SELinux because it causes more trouble than it's worth |
| 12:06.02 | Leeds | didn't even think of it being on until I reinstalled the virtual machine |
| 12:06.26 | Leeds | remember - I use slackware, which still considers PAM dangerously modern and complicated :-) |
| 12:09.44 | wethrin | Leeds: So why're they using SELinux? |
| 12:13.27 | Leeds | they have no idea what they're doing |
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| 13:11.26 | Ch0Hag | Do they ever? |
| 13:11.30 | Ch0Hag | For any value of 'they'. |
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| 13:26.13 | Ch0Hag | Interesting. |
| 13:26.28 | Ch0Hag | Debian's installer lets you 'continue with no disk drive' and then starts up the partitioner. |
| 13:26.36 | wethrin | Clever |
| 14:28.24 | gregj | is there any command line tool, that converts binary file into .h ? |
| 14:29.36 | bilarh | into c style headers? :-) |
| 14:29.54 | gregj | yeah |
| 14:29.56 | gregj | I am too lazy |
| 14:30.09 | bilarh | but |
| 14:30.11 | bilarh | what |
| 14:30.14 | bilarh | you mean like a lib or something? |
| 14:30.50 | gregj | clt |
| 14:30.55 | gregj | command line |
| 14:31.01 | bilarh | about time someone hit the FF button again, methinks |
| 14:31.02 | gregj | bin2h or something |
| 14:31.19 | bilarh | i still don't understand what you want :-) |
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| 14:34.37 | clive-h | you can dissemble binary files |
| 14:34.52 | clive-h | disassemble |
| 14:35.26 | clive-h | but that's to assembly code |
| 14:37.16 | clive-h | if it's a system binary then most likely the source code will be available |
| 14:43.33 | gregj | nevremind |
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| 15:04.56 | bilarh | failure: FF? |
| 15:05.58 | failure | hehe, did they fix it? |
| 15:05.58 | bilarh | dunno :( |
| 15:05.58 | bilarh | they bloody should though |
| 15:05.59 | failure | anyway, i don't need it so much now... |
| 15:06.03 | failure | i got a better job :) |
| 15:06.07 | bilarh | hehe excellent |
| 15:06.11 | bilarh | what you doing now then? |
| 15:06.55 | failure | they call it Production Server Engineer |
| 15:07.01 | bilarh | hmm |
| 15:07.07 | bilarh | a server engineer? :-) |
| 15:07.59 | failure | we get the server software from the developers, integrate it, try it, do load testing, etc... and we pass it to QA and later to Production |
| 15:08.57 | failure | a mix of linux admin, some programming, debugging.... it's not bad |
| 15:09.14 | failure | much better than explaining people how to disable their pop-up blockers :) |
| 15:09.47 | failure | and the working conditions are much, much better as well |
| 15:09.55 | failure | really nice working environment |
| 15:10.31 | failure | i am not a slave, with a school table size desktop anymore |
| 15:16.55 | bilarh | excellent stuff, sounds cool :) |
| 15:17.05 | bilarh | i reckon a good mix of admin + programming is the best |
| 15:17.41 | failure | yes, i like the mix too |
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| 15:50.33 | Ch0Hag | The post office sucks. |
| 15:51.02 | Ch0Hag | Standard mail is C5 up to 5mm thick, just enough to make posting PCI cards a problem, but weighing up to 1Kg. |
| 15:51.22 | Ch0Hag | I wouldn't like to know what could weigh a kilo in that little space. |
| 15:51.55 | boudiccas | Ch0Hag; a lead wafer :) |
| 15:51.55 | wethrin | Lead? |
| 15:52.57 | Ch0Hag | Indeed. But why would anyone post an A4 sheet of lead? |
| 15:53.06 | Ch0Hag | That's just ... weird. |
| 15:53.10 | wethrin | There may be uses for it |
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| 16:20.52 | Ch0Hag | "You'll have to email me the details because I'll forget" doesn't seem to have registered. |
| 16:21.07 | Ch0Hag | So he's telling me everything over the phone. |
| 16:21.42 | antiphase | Hang up |
| 16:27.50 | Ch0Hag | He pays me. |
| 16:28.32 | Ch0Hag | Well - he receives the bills and deals with them. |
| 16:28.42 | Ch0Hag | Sometimes some actual money ends up in my bank account. |
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| 19:01.22 | goltor | greetingsss |
| 19:24.55 | Ch0Hag | Anyone got a spare SCSI card? |
| 19:37.26 | hali | Ch0Hag: i've got an old dell perc3 raid (lsi logic) |
| 19:43.53 | Ch0Hag | That'll do. |
| 19:44.11 | Ch0Hag | I only need it for a tape drive. |
| 19:44.22 | Ch0Hag | Does it have an external connector? |
| 19:45.06 | hali | two i think, but im not sure if it support tape |
| 19:45.19 | Ch0Hag | Oh wait. Site says it doesn't work preporly under Linux. |
| 19:45.25 | hali | i'ts mini lvd |
| 19:45.31 | hali | and it works perfectly in linux |
| 19:45.40 | Ch0Hag | Oh LSI. |
| 19:45.45 | Ch0Hag | This site says Adaptec. |
| 19:45.48 | hali | i took it from a dell 1750 server running redhat 7 or something |
| 19:45.59 | Ch0Hag | Why do you think it doesn't support tape? |
| 19:46.11 | hali | i haven't tried it |
| 19:46.16 | Ch0Hag | Oh OK. |
| 19:46.20 | hali | and since it is a raid card |
| 19:47.58 | Ch0Hag | Hmm true. |
| 19:51.04 | Ch0Hag | Well there's one (non-raid) on ebay in 20 hours for £20. |
| 19:51.18 | Ch0Hag | Bit pricey though for just one thing. |
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| 21:15.01 | herm3s | Hi |
| 21:22.49 | herm3s | ? |
| 21:24.37 | goltor | low |
| 21:26.20 | herm3s | Ahh life |
| 21:26.34 | herm3s | Found this channel on Google groups |
| 21:26.37 | goltor | grand aint it? :P |
| 21:27.13 | goltor | yeah, it seems to be pretty random in here |
| 21:27.24 | goltor | i mean idling wise |
| 21:27.34 | herm3s | Are all of you dudes from round London way? |
| 21:27.56 | clive-h | well it's a london user group |
| 21:28.09 | herm3s | lol |
| 21:28.16 | clive-h | but there are people from abroad |
| 21:28.20 | herm3s | cool |
| 21:28.56 | clive-h | usually who have some past connection with the LUG |
| 21:29.21 | herm3s | I was after groups / chats a bit closer to home, but, couldn't find any... So I've settled for London |
| 21:29.35 | clive-h | where are you? |
| 21:29.40 | herm3s | Staffordshire |
| 21:29.44 | herm3s | Midlands |
| 21:30.13 | clive-h | I believe there's a Nottingham LUG and a Birmingham one |
| 21:30.21 | herm3s | Hmm |
| 21:30.34 | herm3s | I'll have a Google at that, brb. |
| 21:32.45 | herm3s | There is a Staffordshire group after all... |
| 21:33.11 | clive-h | There you go |
| 21:33.28 | herm3s | :-D |
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