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| 06:51.54 | JosefAss1d | I call pub night. |
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| 08:39.29 | bilarh | yo peeps |
| 08:41.27 | JosefAssad | hi bilarh |
| 08:44.34 | clive-h | morning |
| 08:45.29 | JosefAssad | right, so let me try again. 5th to 8th of June, anyone up for a run to the pub? |
| 09:13.27 | z00dax | JosefAssad: announce it on the gllug-social list |
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| 09:17.23 | bilarh | 10:18 < z00dax> JosefAssad: announce it on the gllug-social list |
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| 09:17.53 | bilarh | man, my hands are bruised, and my arms are all swollen |
| 09:18.04 | bilarh | i can't even type any more |
| 09:20.09 | clive-h | How come they're bruised ? |
| 09:24.18 | bilarh | too much kung fu |
| 09:24.23 | bilarh | i think i need to give it a rest until next week |
| 09:24.25 | clive-h | ahhh |
| 09:25.14 | bilarh | hmm, i wonder if like hands stop bruising after a while? |
| 09:25.25 | bilarh | i mean, there can only be so many blood vessels to crush, right? |
| 09:25.34 | clive-h | I prefer kung po king prawns :-( |
| 09:25.47 | bilarh | lol |
| 09:26.16 | clive-h | preferably in garlic and chilli sauce |
| 09:26.27 | bilarh | that is nice though |
| 09:26.50 | bilarh | i've developed this fetish for the "salt and chilli" stuff the chinese takeaways do... e.g. salt and chilli squid, or prawns |
| 09:26.53 | bilarh | even ribs :-) |
| 09:27.08 | clive-h | ahh not tried the salt and chilli thing |
| 09:27.10 | bilarh | s/this/a/ |
| 09:27.16 | bilarh | it totally rocks :) |
| 09:27.19 | bilarh | imo, of course |
| 09:27.42 | bilarh | it's probably not overly healthy though, unfortunately... but never mind :) |
| 09:27.54 | JosefAss1d | bilarh: Ah, I'll do that. Thanks! |
| 09:28.03 | clive-h | well yes all that salt would put me off |
| 09:28.13 | bilarh | josefassid: no, it was zoodax who said, i just posted it again because i thought you got disconnected :) |
| 09:28.44 | bilarh | salt is the devil... i've tried cutting down a bit, and it does seem to make me feel a bit better |
| 09:28.57 | bilarh | and salt retains water anyway, which makes me feel really bloated |
| 09:29.06 | clive-h | New World in Covent Garden for a social would be a good venue |
| 09:29.22 | clive-h | Excellent Chinese restaurant |
| 09:29.40 | hali | New World is alright, i prefer the Mayflower though |
| 09:30.03 | hali | but New World is probably better for a social, way more space |
| 09:30.10 | clive-h | New World do very excellent chilli and garlic crabs |
| 09:30.11 | bilarh | clive: is that the one sort of in a court yard |
| 09:30.28 | clive-h | End of Gerrard Street yes |
| 09:31.30 | bilarh | mayflower is good too, i had their soft shell crab... it was fantastic (althoguh i was a tad intoxicated at the time, so they may actually have served me a toilet roll which i mistook for food) |
| 09:31.30 | bilarh | clive: yeah i've been there... i wasn't overly impressed at the time, but it was like four years ago |
| 09:31.30 | clive-h | I've taken parties of 25-30 people to New World |
| 09:31.48 | clive-h | Well mayflower sounds good |
| 09:32.03 | clive-h | I love spicy crab |
| 09:32.03 | bilarh | this was just me and the wife... the food was nice, but the service was a bit crap... they were probably rushed off their feet at the time as it was lunch time on saturday |
| 09:32.42 | bilarh | there's always mr wu, of course :P |
| 09:33.00 | clive-h | Possibly I suspect Saturday evenings are busier |
| 09:33.13 | clive-h | There's always Won kei's |
| 09:33.28 | clive-h | But you need a thick skin for that |
| 09:33.50 | bilarh | viet on frith street (or possibly greek street) used to be great also |
| 09:34.00 | bilarh | fantastic bong with fried pork patties, but they've gone down hill since they changed owners :( |
| 09:34.07 | clive-h | I've not been there |
| 09:34.18 | bilarh | i went there the other week and was thoroughly disappointed with both the food and service |
| 09:34.23 | clive-h | I like melati on great windmill street |
| 09:34.26 | bilarh | clive: don't go :) |
| 09:34.40 | clive-h | melay cuisine |
| 09:34.51 | clive-h | malay even |
| 09:35.15 | bilarh | i haven't really had that much malay cuisine actually... the only malay place i can remember going to is in camden |
| 09:35.33 | bilarh | it was really, really nice, but the bill came in at like 130 quid for three people, which is a bit OTT for my liking :) |
| 09:35.39 | clive-h | Ouch |
| 09:35.53 | bilarh | i'm a great fan of cheap and cheerful |
| 09:36.02 | clive-h | That's as bad as the fat duck |
| 09:36.17 | clive-h | 2* michelin place in Bray |
| 09:36.24 | clive-h | near Maidenhead |
| 09:36.34 | bilarh | ah, but 2* michelin will cost you a bomb any time |
| 09:36.42 | bilarh | i think at least, i've never been to one :) |
| 09:36.47 | clive-h | Sure |
| 09:37.02 | clive-h | Nor have I |
| 09:37.15 | clive-h | I looked at their 'tasting menu' |
| 09:37.23 | clive-h | It's intriguing |
| 09:37.27 | bilarh | i'd love to go one day, but i can't stand poncy people and i have this image of those kind of places being full of poncy people :) |
| 09:37.40 | clive-h | lol |
| 09:37.48 | clive-h | I'm a geek |
| 09:37.53 | bilarh | yeah me too :P |
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| 09:38.10 | clive-h | I dress in leather jackets , t-shirts , jeans |
| 09:38.19 | clive-h | black jeans though |
| 09:38.35 | clive-h | I get let into most London restaurants |
| 09:38.55 | JosefAssad | moin |
| 09:39.25 | clive-h | I quite like Orso |
| 09:39.49 | bilarh | i've totally lost touch with restaurants since i moved to bromley |
| 09:39.50 | clive-h | But they're quite spendy too |
| 09:39.53 | bilarh | now it's like harvester ftw :) |
| 09:40.15 | clive-h | Oddly enough I quite like harvesters |
| 09:40.29 | bilarh | so do i actually, it's usually alright :) |
| 09:40.32 | clive-h | There's one near here |
| 09:40.37 | bilarh | mean lamb burgers |
| 09:40.47 | hali | bilarh: except when you wear *shrug* hoodies! :) |
| 09:40.52 | clive-h | Salad, scampi and fries etc |
| 09:42.02 | bilarh | hali: it wasn't quite a hoodie was it... well, maybe it was, but i wasn't wearing the hood up :) |
| 09:42.02 | clive-h | I live quite near zoodax in LB Bexley |
| 09:42.02 | bilarh | hoodies are fantastic, i wish i had found out earlier about the merits of them :) |
| 09:42.02 | bilarh | bexley... sounds familiar... is that se? |
| 09:42.02 | clive-h | Tis yes |
| 09:42.05 | bilarh | scampi's always good :) |
| 09:42.15 | clive-h | I used to work in Westmoreland Place |
| 09:42.32 | clive-h | Opposite Bromley South station |
| 09:42.49 | bilarh | aha, i live right behind westmoreland place :D |
| 09:43.08 | bilarh | the churchhill building? |
| 09:43.40 | clive-h | I suspect where I worked has been pulled down |
| 09:43.48 | clive-h | I worked for ICL |
| 09:43.53 | bilarh | ah |
| 09:43.57 | bilarh | it's RBS now... |
| 09:44.04 | bilarh | you mean like across the road from bromley south? |
| 09:44.08 | clive-h | Yes |
| 09:44.10 | bilarh | or to the left or right? |
| 09:44.20 | bilarh | ok, yeah it's got that massive parking garage |
| 09:44.21 | clive-h | right across really |
| 09:44.55 | clive-h | They were turning a shop into a Wetherspoon pub when I left |
| 09:45.20 | bilarh | ah right.. yeah |
| 09:45.32 | bilarh | they're doing alright there... it's always well busy |
| 09:45.42 | bilarh | which is annoying as i hear all the drunks leaving from the car park :) |
| 09:46.08 | clive-h | Lol |
| 09:46.08 | cpufreak | hmm |
| 09:46.39 | clive-h | I'm told there's a pub in Bromley that does Belgian beer |
| 09:46.47 | clive-h | I never found it |
| 09:47.15 | clive-h | Mostly I aimed to get there as early as possible |
| 09:47.31 | clive-h | and home by 7 |
| 09:48.24 | bilarh | bromley's completely dead by 8 |
| 09:48.34 | bilarh | it's suburbia |
| 09:48.45 | clive-h | This is suburbia too |
| 09:48.59 | clive-h | It's dead almost all the time |
| 09:49.08 | clive-h | Unless you're a chav |
| 09:50.20 | bilarh | hehe :-) |
| 09:50.33 | bilarh | bromley's not even got lots of chavs |
| 09:50.33 | bilarh | well, sometimes |
| 09:50.37 | clive-h | We have lots here |
| 09:50.54 | clive-h | Bromley is slightly more upmarket |
| 09:51.31 | bilarh | yeah maybe |
| 09:51.48 | bilarh | lewisham and catford have lots of people all the time though |
| 09:51.50 | clive-h | Crayford is a small urban town |
| 09:52.10 | clive-h | No M&S , no littlewoods |
| 09:52.43 | clive-h | annoyingly no KFC |
| 09:53.50 | bilarh | well, we've got a kfc, but it closes at like 10 or something |
| 09:54.04 | bilarh | i always end up going to the one in catford... the catford kfc is really good as well |
| 09:54.09 | bilarh | must be because they've got lots of customers |
| 09:54.33 | bilarh | and if you go to bromley kfc after like 9, they only have dry crusty pieces of chicken left |
| 09:54.34 | clive-h | I'd probably not want KFC that late |
| 09:54.41 | bilarh | light weight ;) |
| 09:54.46 | bilarh | it's good for weird dreams :) |
| 09:55.11 | clive-h | Oh look I eat doner kebabs for lunch (sober) |
| 09:55.41 | clive-h | we do have kebab shops here |
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| 09:59.53 | bilarh | doner kebabs are excellent though... |
| 10:00.06 | bilarh | it's like meat, bread and salad... what could possibly go wrong? |
| 10:00.29 | bilarh | i prefer shish doners, though, but it's practically the same thing probably (minus the feet etc) |
| 10:00.49 | clive-h | I like doners |
| 10:01.29 | clive-h | Less sure about shish |
| 10:02.43 | bilarh | i think the doner meat is too salty usually |
| 10:02.49 | clive-h | The pita and salad are healthy enough, the meat less so |
| 10:02.50 | bilarh | and it feels quite fatty sometimes too |
| 10:03.02 | bilarh | well, meat in itself is probably not unhealthy, right? |
| 10:03.03 | clive-h | It's always fatty |
| 10:03.08 | bilarh | it must be the crap in the meat :) |
| 10:03.37 | clive-h | Chicken doner is probably healthier |
| 10:06.31 | clive-h | i used to have doners for lunch every friday at one point |
| 10:12.26 | z00dax | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! |
| 10:12.46 | z00dax | clive-h: where you depressed and trying to kill yourself ? |
| 10:13.53 | clive-h | Errr I actually like kebabs |
| 10:15.13 | clive-h | and waterloo has a most excellent kebab shop |
| 10:17.46 | clive-h | i mostly bought lunch from boots |
| 10:17.59 | clive-h | i like sushi and stuff |
| 10:19.59 | bilarh | i'm with clive, kebabs are ace |
| 10:21.03 | clive-h | Most all food groups except alcohol |
| 10:21.19 | clive-h | But that can be remieded |
| 10:23.54 | clive-h | Gah I was expectimg F7 to have hit the mirrors |
| 10:24.56 | clive-h | expecting |
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| 11:08.34 | Leeds | shalom |
| 11:18.40 | JosefAssad | Leeds: one day, you'll have to bring me one of those waffle-type things they sell in stands outside the MTR stations. The sweet stuff |
| 11:20.12 | Leeds | hmm... only had one of them once... |
| 11:20.19 | Leeds | Jasmine bought it for me :-( |
| 11:22.37 | JosefAssad | I've been burning for once for what, 13 years now |
| 11:23.04 | JosefAssad | a waffle, not a Jasmine |
| 11:25.19 | SlayerXP | fg |
| 11:28.48 | JosefAssad | ctrl-z |
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| 11:43.47 | SlayerXP | excellent, Schinker shut up. |
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| 12:45.53 | niv_one_three | yes freenode is back |
| 12:46.11 | niv_one_three | hello world , weekend is right around the corner |
| 12:54.53 | hali | two boring days of no work :( |
| 12:55.04 | hali | i have a fun pile of sun boxes to install |
| 12:55.19 | boudiccas | there speaks the workaholic! :) |
| 12:55.40 | hali | hehe, nah.. but for once i have a lot of fun at work :) |
| 13:07.14 | bilarh | oh man, i feel *really* sick |
| 13:07.50 | bilarh | %-S <-- ,e |
| 13:07.51 | bilarh | me |
| 13:08.25 | bilarh | s/me/`me`/ |
| 13:09.07 | niv_one_three | it will be my hardset task to date, to see my GF switch to using a GNU OS |
| 13:09.07 | niv_one_three | oh ya, a woot-off is taking place www.woot.com ... |
| 13:09.07 | niv_one_three | bluetooth keyboard and mouse at 35$... |
| 13:09.07 | niv_one_three | DELL |
| 13:10.05 | hali | bilarh: you probably just need a few beers |
| 13:11.14 | bilarh | that's probably what I *dont* need right now |
| 13:12.15 | Leeds | US shipping only from woot |
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| 13:58.07 | JosefAssad | London will be refreshing after Cairo... |
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| 14:00.38 | JosefAssad | arh, only problem with changing your locale in the google cookie to Danish is you don't get the automaic dictionary links to words. |
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| 15:26.51 | z00dax | didnt the weather man say it was going to be raining today ? |
| 15:36.15 | boudiccas | yes he did, although i haven't noticed it doing so yet |
| 15:49.23 | z00dax | its bright and sunny outside |
| 15:52.46 | hali | soho is beautiful today |
| 15:53.02 | hali | nice and sunny, happy people |
| 15:54.08 | z00dax | i have a headache the size of greenland |
| 15:54.14 | z00dax | am not happy people |
| 16:07.39 | antiphase | I prescribe beer |
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| 16:14.16 | resudaed | afternoon all |
| 16:14.30 | resudaed | or anyone |
| 16:21.58 | Leeds | hi... |
| 16:26.34 | resudaed | going to be a fun evening, am helping out my flatmate with a php project for uni |
| 16:27.02 | resudaed | but it's only a 10 point module, so they havn't actually taught them anything useful |
| 16:28.57 | resudaed | is DHTML standard? |
| 16:32.32 | antiphase | Does the Pope shit in the woods? |
| 16:33.26 | resudaed | I meant a standard, because it's in the list of crap they teach maths students at sheffield hallam uni |
| 16:34.11 | resudaed | accoring to w3c, "To most people DHTML means a combination of HTML, Style Sheets and JavaScript" |
| 16:38.08 | boudiccas | antiphase; no! bears do |
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| 16:39.26 | resudaed | anyway, the problem I have is I have to help someone write a php project, and I don't think they've been taught anythign useful |
| 16:39.48 | resudaed | f.ex: no databases |
| 16:41.58 | resudaed | how do you create a photo album, forum, or calendar without either a database server, or a hacked up home made database of text files |
| 16:43.56 | flips_and_rails | you can do a photo album based purely on reading directories where the images are, its processor heavy though |
| 16:45.51 | z00dax | dude, i thought you were the inside man |
| 16:45.58 | z00dax | is there a limit on the number of people who can join a shared screen ? |
| 16:46.12 | z00dax | ugh, wrong window - ignore |
| 16:46.45 | z00dax | what! you dont run a complete mirror in your house! |
| 16:46.52 | z00dax | ugh, again |
| 16:47.31 | boudiccas | he's got a excuse ... he's got a greenland the size of headache! :) |
| 16:47.45 | z00dax | yes |
| 16:50.10 | resudaed | flips_and_rails : processor isn't too much of an issue, so a possibility I suppose. The only reason I'm not getting dbs involved is she's got to write a 2000 word report on that she's done, and I don't fancy teaching databases from scratch as well as html/css/php and javascript (no choice on the javascript) |
| 16:50.22 | resudaed | s/that/what |
| 16:51.19 | resudaed | am going to get pizza, be back later |
| 17:06.31 | flips_and_rails | resudaed, just recurse directories for file names using PHP and the display them using some javascript nonsense |
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| 17:32.55 | wethrin | people! |
| 17:34.10 | z00dax | no, only geeks here. no people - perhaps you have the wrong channel ? |
| 17:34.59 | wethrin | Maybe |
| 17:35.15 | z00dax | what channel did you dial ? |
| 17:36.47 | wethrin | #081 811 8181 |
| 17:41.22 | JosefAssad | last person who called me people ended up face down in a cold spanish omelette. |
| 17:41.32 | JosefAssad | dammit I'm hungry |
| 17:42.52 | wethrin | Mm....omelettes |
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| 17:44.24 | JosefAssad | I know. I made myself hungry |
| 17:44.24 | JosefAssad | idiot that I am |
| 17:44.24 | wethrin | Make a person omelette! |
| 17:44.25 | JosefAssad | Cat omelette is more of an option. One of our cats is fecking OBESE |
| 17:44.25 | wethrin | Diet time! |
| 17:44.25 | JosefAssad | Doesn't work. |
| 17:44.25 | wethrin | oh |
| 17:44.25 | JosefAssad | He eats anything. He eats the other cat's hairballs. |
| 17:44.28 | wethrin | :) |
| 17:44.33 | wethrin | Point and laugh at it. Cats hate that |
| 17:44.38 | JosefAssad | http://www.sancairodicopenhagen.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=474 |
| 17:44.47 | JosefAssad | Thats what I do, all day |
| 17:45.17 | wethrin | That's one big puddle of cat! |
| 17:45.26 | JosefAssad | Don't I know it |
| 17:45.36 | wethrin | Right. Time to make omelette |
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| 18:02.02 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
| 18:02.17 | morsing | ~seen goibhniu |
| 18:03.41 | ibot | goibhniu <n=cillian@87-194-36-120.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 12d 51m 56s ago, saying: 'I can't seem to browse through the downloads on zaurususersgroup.org and I'm looking for a pdf with a template for cutting out a screen protector for the 6000. Does anyone happen to have it here?'. |
| 18:03.44 | morsing | ~seen goibhniu |
| 18:04.26 | ibot | goibhniu <n=cillian@87-194-36-120.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 12d 52m 41s ago, saying: 'I can't seem to browse through the downloads on zaurususersgroup.org and I'm looking for a pdf with a template for cutting out a screen protector for the 6000. Does anyone happen to have it here?'. |
| 18:04.26 | morsing | ~seen goibhniu |
| 18:04.50 | ibot | goibhniu <n=cillian@87-194-36-120.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 12d 53m 5s ago, saying: 'I can't seem to browse through the downloads on zaurususersgroup.org and I'm looking for a pdf with a template for cutting out a screen protector for the 6000. Does anyone happen to have it here?'. |
| 18:04.50 | morsing | ibot wake ibot |
| 18:05.05 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ibot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 18:05.16 | morsing | :( |
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| 18:07.30 | JosefAssad | *phew* project status report issued |
| 18:07.54 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 18:08.08 | wethrin | It's 2 weeks' time you're coming up, yes? |
| 18:09.07 | JosefAssad | hm? |
| 18:09.12 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 18:09.19 | morsing | wethrin: Yes. 16th |
| 18:09.23 | wethrin | Yay |
| 18:09.44 | morsing | I should really confirm my booking but I can't remember where I booked |
| 18:09.51 | wethrin | Queen's Head |
| 18:09.58 | morsing | Nice |
| 18:10.02 | wethrin | google://queens head durham |
| 18:10.10 | JosefAssad | oh bloody hell, booking! No wonder I was feeling edgy. I have no booking |
| 18:10.20 | wethrin | Are you coming to Durham too? |
| 18:10.39 | morsing | wethrin: Is FreeBSD as desktop friendly as Debian? |
| 18:10.40 | JosefAssad | eh, 3 days in London next week. Job interview, mayhap 2 |
| 18:10.48 | morsing | Can FreeBSD run on an IBM T40? |
| 18:11.12 | JosefAssad | morsing: everything but the sound card worked out of the box on my lappy. And that only took a 5 minute google search. FreeBSD thatis |
| 18:11.41 | morsing | Nice :) |
| 18:11.45 | JosefAssad | Bloody hell. Alright, time to find an El Cheapo Hotel. (but not quite the Y) |
| 18:11.51 | morsing | And it can do anything as easily as Debian? |
| 18:11.54 | JosefAssad | morsing: I was surprised, tell the truth |
| 18:12.01 | wethrin | morsing: At least as friendly |
| 18:12.08 | morsing | And run Open Office? |
| 18:12.18 | wethrin | T40 being a Thinkpad? |
| 18:12.23 | JosefAssad | morsing: Now comes the part where I look like a lamer. I ended up not using it. I just don't have the time to figure new tihngs out |
| 18:12.24 | morsing | Yes |
| 18:12.31 | wethrin | JosefAssad: Look at Travelodge hotels |
| 18:12.35 | wethrin | Or Travel Inn |
| 18:13.00 | wethrin | I know there's one near Kings Cross |
| 18:13.04 | wethrin | There's others around |
| 18:13.09 | JosefAssad | cool |
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| 19:01.49 | rhowe | http://www.flickr.com/photos/philbull/103574144/ |
| 19:01.58 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 19:02.06 | rhowe | heya Henrik |
| 19:02.18 | morsing | How are you? |
| 19:02.20 | morsing | ping Leeds |
| 19:07.15 | JosefAssad | oh bloody hell |
| 19:07.33 | JosefAssad | what a time for the local cell provider to have coverage problems |
| 19:18.23 | *** join/#gllug sabinef72 (n=sabinef7@ns.popipo.fr) |
| 19:21.29 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 19:25.21 | JosefAssad | these voice recognition IVRs are complete shit |
| 19:25.40 | JosefAssad | Everything went well until I had to spell out my last name :) I pity the Poles |
| 19:26.34 | JosefAssad | "Please enter your surname" |
| 19:26.47 | JosefAssad | skrypckzyczak s k r y p c k z y c z a k |
| 19:27.26 | JosefAssad | "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that. Can you please repeat that?" |
| 19:32.50 | morsing | ping Leeds |
| 19:38.20 | *** join/#gllug niv_one_three (n=niv@85.65.212.180.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 19:40.18 | Ch0Hag | Who knows what about IPv6? |
| 19:40.35 | wethrin | Googld! |
| 19:40.38 | Ch0Hag | I figure it's about time I got it working [again]. |
| 19:40.41 | Ch0Hag | Maybe properly this time. |
| 19:41.31 | wethrin | It'll never happen |
| 19:42.50 | Ch0Hag | What? IPv6 or me getting it to work properly? |
| 19:43.46 | wethrin | IPv6 |
| 19:43.51 | wethrin | Getting it to work properly |
| 19:44.06 | Ch0Hag | Oh it'll happen. |
| 19:44.12 | Ch0Hag | There's porn on it now. It has to happen. |
| 19:44.38 | wethrin | Right. |
| 19:44.52 | morsing | Beer |
| 19:45.13 | Ch0Hag | If they can get beer on it with the porn, ipv4'll be a thing of the past within wooks. |
| 19:47.16 | Ch0Hag | weeks |
| 19:47.17 | Ch0Hag | First, however, I need the basics - ping across an ethernet switch with no router or firewall in the way. |
| 19:47.52 | wethrin | IPv6 is geared very much mjore towards autoconfiguration |
| 20:01.29 | *** part/#gllug ceronman (n=ceronman@ACCFA1AE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:04.09 | morsing | wethrin: Where's goibhiu? |
| 20:04.20 | morsing | Do you have his email address? |
| 20:24.14 | wethrin | Not offhand |
| 20:25.13 | z00dax | wethrin: does'nt everyone auto configure these days ? |
| 20:25.40 | z00dax | if the only isp to offer ipv6 didnt cost an arm and a leg, I'd be on ipv6 to the world too! |
| 20:25.50 | z00dax | support I could use one of the gateways... |
| 20:26.41 | morsing | z00dax: I don't |
| 20:27.18 | z00dax | morsing: given its only 7 years into this century, its sill worthwhile making your way into it! |
| 20:30.17 | sabinef72 | hello |
| 20:30.37 | z00dax | sabinef72: hi |
| 20:40.47 | morsing | z00dax: Why? Are we still talking about auto configure? |
| 20:57.37 | wethrin | z00dax: Blackcat doesn't cost that much |
| 21:03.28 | z00dax | wethrin: but poor service, and their b/w cap is too low for me |
| 21:03.37 | z00dax | I average 160 - 250 gb/month |
| 21:03.44 | *** join/#gllug clive-h (n=ch@chills.demon.co.uk) |
| 21:03.45 | wethrin | I've not found them to have poor service |
| 21:03.54 | wethrin | I'm not limited |
| 21:04.01 | wethrin | I'm on 2Mbit, though |
| 21:04.03 | z00dax | http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/services/adsl |
| 21:04.43 | z00dax | yeah, I moved to bonded 8megs a while back, am trying to see if I can convince benow to do something like that and will move to bonded 24meg ( and hope to get 17meg total ) |
| 21:05.01 | z00dax | on bonded 8megs, i get a total of 11 at the moment |
| 21:05.21 | wethrin | Ask Jason nicely :) |
| 21:05.24 | z00dax | I have lots of packages and isos etc going up and down |
| 21:05.47 | z00dax | there is always that, next time I see him might poke |
| 21:07.22 | z00dax | its going to be interesting to see how and what BT replaces their sdsl service with later this year |
| 21:14.49 | clive-h | I get 3 Mb on MaxADSL |
| 21:15.00 | clive-h | Though it's capped at 50Gb now |
| 21:16.25 | z00dax | clive-h: have you got your f7 ? |
| 21:16.44 | clive-h | Nope not yet |
| 21:18.06 | clive-h | Not hit the mirrors yet |
| 21:18.46 | z00dax | get the torrent |
| 21:19.02 | z00dax | I did a koan import and that worked so it must be on some of the rsync mirrors - well the tree anyway |
| 21:19.24 | z00dax | looks quite nice, so far - i am going to use it for another day and then go back to my proper install of centos |
| 21:20.20 | clive-h | Hmmm I'll give it a go overnight |
| 21:36.54 | clive-h | It'll be interesting to see how well Nouveau works |
| 21:37.35 | clive-h | I hate having to use the binary Nvidia one |
| 21:38.43 | z00dax | does it do 3d and opengl ? |
| 21:39.09 | clive-h | The nvidia one? |
| 21:39.15 | z00dax | Nouveau |
| 21:39.35 | clive-h | Dunno never touched it before |
| 21:41.30 | clive-h | I run the nvidia one cos I need multi-head |
| 21:41.30 | clive-h | and on this box at least I run beryl |
| 21:44.37 | cpufreak | z00dax: you'd probably have more luck talking to easynet to do bonded ADSL2+ |
| 21:44.44 | clive-h | ETA for the torrent 1 day 6 hours |
| 21:44.54 | cpufreak | as they can still do ppp mutlikink, as they do PPPoA |
| 21:45.56 | cpufreak | Be do RoutedEthernet over ATM, no auth, no straightforward way of doing routed subnets to customers.. |
| 21:46.17 | clive-h | I ought to phone my ISP , at least on 2Mb I wasn't capped |
| 21:46.23 | cpufreak | Be's way means you don't have the PPP overhead and stuff. |
| 21:46.44 | cpufreak | I've just ordered ADSL2+ here from tele2 |
| 21:46.49 | cpufreak | 19euro/month for 20Mb/s |
| 21:47.05 | cpufreak | including telephone line rental |
| 21:47.16 | clive-h | Blimey that's good |
| 21:47.32 | cpufreak | free wireless router thingy too |
| 21:47.41 | cpufreak | it goes up to 29euro/month after 6 months or osmething |
| 21:47.43 | clive-h | I hate having to pay the line rental to BT |
| 21:47.44 | cpufreak | but its still piss cheap |
| 21:47.45 | cpufreak | uncapped too |
| 21:48.02 | cpufreak | http://www.tele2.nl/shop/Internet-Bellen/index.htm |
| 21:48.36 | clive-h | I have my on wireless ap so a free one wouldn't be much incentive |
| 21:48.53 | clive-h | own |
| 21:48.59 | cpufreak | there's a 'fair use policy' |
| 21:49.22 | clive-h | Well that's what Demon have |
| 21:49.33 | clive-h | It turns out to be a cap of 50Gb |
| 21:49.49 | clive-h | After which they rate limit you to 12Kb |
| 21:50.52 | cpufreak | its a bit different in holland |
| 21:51.24 | clive-h | *128Kb |
| 21:54.09 | z00dax | cpufreak: can i run a cable over to your place :) |
| 21:58.45 | z00dax | also, thanks for the tip - shall get in touch with easynet |
| 22:05.12 | cpufreak | I've still got adsl2+ to my flat in london |
| 22:27.47 | resudaed | evening all |
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| 22:39.01 | clive-h | gah had to reboot the router |
| 22:39.07 | clive-h | That was odd |
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| 23:31.01 | resudaed | unfortunatly on the ~£10 profit I can make a month, ups is slightly off the budget |
| 23:31.33 | clive-h | heh |
| 23:33.08 | resudaed | there is a battery shop on this road, so ups is a future possibility, maybe even for the whole house :-) |
| 23:33.32 | clive-h | I can't recall the last power outage here |
| 23:33.43 | clive-h | Most be 7 years or so ago |
| 23:33.54 | z00dax | there was one sooner |
| 23:33.54 | clive-h | *must |
| 23:34.12 | resudaed | it's the first one I've had since I moved to sheffield (just coming up on two years), but it was off for about 2 1/2 hours |
| 23:34.13 | z00dax | 2004 i think, on a Saturday morning, power went out for about 11 - 12 minutes |
| 23:34.26 | clive-h | Ahhh maybe |
| 23:34.54 | z00dax | I was not in the country, and my girlfriend who lived in Canterbury at the time drove all the way up to reset the adsl router so i could get back into my home network and email |
| 23:35.14 | clive-h | Lol |
| 23:35.40 | resudaed | looking at your previous conversation, can anyone recomend an adsl2 provider? |
| 23:35.51 | resudaed | been looking at bethere.co.uk |
| 23:36.17 | z00dax | clara are supposed to be good as well - i think they have some resellers who are non-hostile to residential users |
| 23:42.10 | resudaed | still need to find another £700 before the start of july so that I can move 500 meters up the road, but I want adsl2 when I get there, not going back to the isp formally known as telewest |
| 23:43.01 | resudaed | I can't take the upstream anymore (128k), and for the cost of line rental I could be getting 20+MBit/1.3MBit |
| 23:43.15 | resudaed | still a bad ration, but usable upstream |
| 23:44.31 | z00dax | yeah i am looking to move to adsl2 only for that reason, to get the higher upload rates |
| 23:44.43 | z00dax | burning stuff to dvd's and going to the DC every weekend just does not work anymore |
| 23:46.02 | clive-h | Courier the DVDs to the DC? get the 'intelligent hands' to put em in drives? |
| 23:46.08 | resudaed | I also have to content with bit torrent users, and there is no room for upstream on 2048/128. The 128 almost all used on tcp overhead |
| 23:46.58 | resudaed | anything above 4k up starts to damage the downstream |
| 23:47.10 | clive-h | I gave up on torrent for F7 incidentally |
| 23:47.16 | z00dax | oh ? |
| 23:47.18 | clive-h | ftp is faster |
| 23:47.23 | resudaed | (4kB) |
| 23:47.29 | z00dax | does kernel.org have the isos as yet ? |
| 23:47.49 | z00dax | remember kernel.org is actually 2 machines, so if you cant get a slow on one - try the other |
| 23:47.53 | clive-h | I'm getting 213Kb/s from fedore.redhat.com |
| 23:48.00 | z00dax | oh cool! |
| 23:48.34 | clive-h | and it'll hit my cap less |
| 23:48.56 | clive-h | torrent was doing 6Kb/s |
| 23:49.59 | z00dax | ouch |
| 23:50.21 | z00dax | is your cap only between some times though ? or is it 50 gigs for a month - anytime of day or night ? |
| 23:50.38 | resudaed | clive : was that out of ~255kB/s |
| 23:50.48 | z00dax | plus.net has a 100gig/month limit but only from 6pm to midnight, which is ok with me - i am almost never doing anything a that time |
| 23:50.56 | clive-h | The cap is 50Gb of data |
| 23:51.06 | clive-h | It's annoying |
| 23:51.33 | clive-h | I want to go back to 2Mb non MaxADSL which is uncapped |
| 23:52.46 | resudaed | either of you two any good with php? |
| 23:52.56 | resudaed | want to cap a string at a certain length |
| 23:53.18 | clive-h | I couldn't code php to save my life |
| 23:53.35 | z00dax | strlen |
| 23:53.44 | clive-h | I'd guess substr might be what you need |
| 23:53.44 | resudaed | I did ages ago, and I am helping out a housemate with a project |
| 23:53.50 | z00dax | or substr |
| 23:54.19 | resudaed | substr, that was the one I couldn't remember |
| 23:54.27 | z00dax | http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.substr.php |
| 23:54.52 | resudaed | yeah, I have the manual up, just couldn't find the function I wanted |
| 23:55.55 | z00dax | ok, sleep-o-clock. be back later |