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09:45.47ibotgoibhniu <n=cillian@87-194-36-120.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 21h 37m 34s ago, saying: 'dick_turpin: pics...  yes please!'.
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10:42.28phearlesshi guys !
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12:59.37Leedsoh, it's a hard hard life...
12:59.56dick_turpinStop taking Viagra
13:00.36bilarh_hehe
13:01.45Leeds9pm, time to go catch a ferry 'cross the harbour to go to Pizza Express for a birthday party :-)
13:01.57bilarh_:'(
13:02.00bilarh_i wish it was 9pm here
13:02.30Leedsthen tomorrow, I'm going to the cinema, maybe going ice skating, then going to a party in Cyberport at night... going to Macau on Sunday... BBQ on the beach Monday night...
13:02.58Leedsand people wonder why I fought to stay here!
13:03.36Leeds*gone*
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14:10.32boudiccas<PROTECTED>
14:12.45goibhniuboudiccas: wobbly windows too?
14:14.38bilarh_nvidia sucks monkey balls thought
14:14.43bilarh_s/thought/though/
14:14.52bilarh_ibot: i thank you
14:14.53ibotYou thank you?
14:14.56boudiccasi haven't enabled it for 3d as yet, so i don't think that i could get wobbly windows
14:15.15boudiccasi don't think its available for centos 5 yet anyway
14:15.58boudiccasi've just found out that xine doesn't like this card, but vlc does
14:16.25boudiccasdon't know how to get round that because i really like zxine
14:16.34boudiccas*xine
14:17.07boudiccasmaybe if it was 3d enabled xine would work proplery?
14:17.53goibhniuhmm ... I wouldn't have thought it would matter ... are you using xv for xine?
14:18.34boudiccasno idea, i'm just using the gui for it
14:19.31goibhniuif you try alt+s to get the settings window
14:19.59goibhniuunder the gui tab change experience level to something high
14:20.18goibhniuthen go to the video tab and select xv instead of auto
14:21.11goibhniuor you could see what vlc is using and try the same one, I'm pretty sure it would be xv though
14:21.47boudiccasits already on expert :) i'm wondering if its a graphics card problem because evrything is yellow!
14:23.20bilarh_goibhniu: you're back!
14:24.05goibhniubilarh_: I'm investing in Berlin ... I know you're with me on this one
14:24.19bilarh_ah cool :)
14:24.24goibhniubilarh_: did I miss anything?
14:24.35bilarh_a whole load of boredness from my side :-)
14:24.48bilarh_you still in berlin?
14:25.02goibhniunope :(
14:25.18bilarh_ah, never mind, eh
14:26.09boudiccashow do you clean the fans on the side of cases? just apply the vacuum nozzle and suck?
14:26.18wethrinYes
14:26.24wethrinAnd compressed air, too
14:26.29bilarh_boudiccas: either that, or the bottled air
14:26.41bilarh_the bottled air is vastly superior :)
14:26.56haliand much more fun to use
14:27.02halipsccch
14:27.09bilarh_and it's nice and cool too
14:27.17bilarh_works wonders if you've forgotten the deodorant
14:27.24boudiccasthanks, i'll try the vacuum cleaner first as thats easier for me. if that isn't as succesfull as i want i'll buy a can of air
14:27.27bilarh_but don't spray too much as you'll probably get frost bite
14:28.50wethrinA computer inside a deodorant spray?
14:29.19bilarh_yes
14:29.28bilarh_with that squeezy upright sprayhandle
14:29.36bilarh_and a sossidge
14:30.00boudiccasah yes, you've got to have a sossidge
14:30.36wethrinSossidges++
14:34.16bilarh_has someone here got some code to send udp packets over a raw socket?
14:34.24bilarh_i keep finding various examples on the net and none of them work
14:34.35bilarh_needs to be c or perl, preferrably
14:34.44bilarh_or lolcode
14:37.24wethrinI prefer my sockets to be medium-rare
14:37.37bilarh_hehe
14:38.26clive-hwhat's lolcode?
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14:56.14haliKTHXBYE
14:57.01halihttp://www.lolcode.com/examples/filezorz
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14:57.42haliCAN HAS STDIO?
14:58.04bilarh_i love the "AWSUM THX" and "O NOES" keywords :)
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15:03.22clive-hhmmm lolcode looks awful
15:05.25bilarh_i think it looks excellent :-)
15:05.43boudiccasi've got no opinion on it :)
15:05.56bilarh_mother tongue annoyances has more on the subject:
15:05.57bilarh_http://www.mtannoyances.com/?p=755
15:06.05bilarh_almost serious blog entry :-)
15:08.34boudiccasclive-h; i've just installed a nvidia geforce graphics card into this machine running CentOS 5, its been autodetected and auto-configured and its working nicely ... except when i try to use xine using the gui. everything is then shown in the window as being various shades of yellow. any ideas please?
15:10.00clive-hhmmm
15:10.17clive-hSounds like a colour depth thing
15:10.40boudiccasvlc works perfectly okay showing the film, just xine doesn't
15:11.13clive-hHmmm I don't use xine I'm afraid
15:11.41boudiccask, np. as you were so good and helpful last time i thought i'd ask you  :) thanks anyway
15:12.06clive-hI knew about those though
15:12.15clive-hi'd use vlc or mplayer
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15:34.03bilarh_bloody crap
15:34.06bilarh_linux is doing my head in
15:35.26antiphaseBlame your head
15:36.52bilarh_i blame you
15:36.55bilarh_it's definitely not my fault
15:36.57bilarh_or my codes
15:37.24bilarh_it must be someone elses fault, surely... i don't make mistakes, see :)
15:38.09boudiccasi didn't know bilarh_ was welsh!
15:38.33bilarh_oh yes, hence my love of sossidges
15:38.47bilarh_On a plate.
15:38.50bilarh_to be eaten.
15:39.05bilarh_or hang on now
15:39.20bilarh_do welsh people always blame someone else || do they never make mistakes :-)
15:39.38boudiccaswhy do i get the feeling that something is going to go wrong? having just put a new graphics card into my machine and everything seeming to be working okay
15:40.03bilarh_nah, linux is like that nowadays...
15:40.17bilarh_it's not like windows where you get all sorts of weirdo problems if you change a graphics card :-)
15:41.04boudiccasits been autodetected and autoconfigured and apart from xine its working nicely. but i've just got this feeling of impending doom
15:41.57bilarh_i've actually been quite happy with hardware auto detection now for a while
15:42.08bilarh_even my no-name wifi card worked out of the box
15:42.12bilarh_in ubuntu, of course, but still
15:43.06boudiccasthis is in centos 5, and i checked before installing the card to see if it was in the list of 'approved' cards
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15:44.06clive-hI've had problems with wireless cards recently
15:44.23clive-hThough that's better now in Fedora 7
15:44.34bilarh_switch to ubuntu
15:44.38bilarh_join the hive :-)
15:44.56bilarh_look into my eyes!
15:46.06clive-hNo ta, I like Redhat/Fedora/Centos
15:46.46boudiccas:)
15:47.12bilarh_i pity the fool ;-)
15:50.42Ch0Haglike?
15:50.52Ch0HagI thought the best they ever achieved was tolerate.
16:08.34gw280wibble
16:17.29Ch0HagQuite.
16:24.40wethringw280!
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16:42.56gw280wethrin: hi
16:52.28wethrinFinished term yet?
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16:54.53gw280wethrin: no
16:54.58gw280wethrin: finished exams though
16:55.23gw280wethrin: currently wondering how to deal with this ridiculous attempt by college to get me to move out during the summer :P
16:56.55wethrinGive them lots of money
17:30.36wethrinmorsing: ping?
17:32.52morsingwethrin!
17:33.01morsingHow bizarre :)
17:33.02wethrinhi!
17:33.09wethrinWas wondering about tomorrow...
17:33.11morsingWhazzup?
17:33.14morsingYes?
17:33.46wethrinWhat time're you leaving Aylesbury?
17:33.54morsing4am
17:34.06wethrinAnd no-one's prodded me about music stuff, so I assume I'm going to be free in the evening
17:34.10wethrin4am!? That's early!
17:34.12morsingNice
17:34.15morsingwethrin: is
17:34.18morsing'tis
17:34.26wethrinSo you'll get here around 9, then
17:34.41morsingYou think? Incl, breakfast and other breaks?
17:34.49morsingI thought more like 11
17:34.52wethrinDepends how long you take
17:35.06wethrinI did Durham to home in about 4.5 hours
17:35.17morsingWith loads of long breaks?
17:35.19wethrinNo
17:35.28wethrinJust a short one, where we swapped drivers
17:35.50morsingRight, well Iĺl be having breakfast and other stuff
17:36.00morsingAnd we have to go see the angel...
17:36.28wethrinYeah. Forecast says it's going to rain
17:36.39wethrinDo you have SatNav?
17:36.42morsingI know :(
17:37.33wethrinIf you feel like being organised, my postcode is DH1 4RD
17:39.28morsing:)
17:39.38morsingping catalyst
17:41.41wethrinI go home. Catch you soon
17:43.38morsingSee ya
17:43.59morsing~seen catalyst
17:44.06ibotcatalyst is currently on #gllug (2h 17s), last said: 'morsing!'.
17:44.27morsingcatalyst!
17:45.36Leedsfish
17:45.42morsingLeeds!
17:45.56morsingHow are you and why are you not responding to my mails?
17:46.36LeedsI am tired and they are silly emails
17:46.47morsingSilly? I what way?
18:04.32wethrinRar
18:10.07morsingsabinef72: You seem very cheerful (again)? :)
18:10.13morsingFeeling better?
18:14.06sabinef72yes I'm ok
18:14.13sabinef72was working a bit in the baby room
18:14.26morsingGood :)
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18:21.57morsingshai!
18:22.04morsingshai: Where have you been?
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18:28.24morsinggoltor!
18:28.31morsing~seen goibhniu
18:28.34ibotgoibhniu is currently on #gllug (8h 16m 5s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 4h 3m 32s, last said: 'nope :('.
18:28.48morsinggoibhniu!
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18:37.53gw280http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs18/i/2007/165/d/b/CUSBC_2_by_thegoldfishbowl.jpg
18:37.55gw280woot.
18:37.56shaiabout ... :)
18:38.21shaimorsing, been a whlie, ah?
18:50.50morsinggw280!
18:50.54morsingshai: Hasn't it?
18:51.01morsinggoibhniu!
18:52.13goibhniumorsing! how was it out there ... IRL?
18:53.56goibhniumorsing: if you want to sell your house and buy property in Berlin I may be able to help
19:03.54boudiccasi've just installed a nvidia geforce graphics card into this machine running CentOS 5, its been autodetected and auto-configured and its working nicely ... except when i try to use xine using the gui. everything is then shown in the window as being various shades of yellow. any ideas please? vlc works perfectly showing the video but xine doesn't. any ideas for a solution please?
19:05.45goibhniuboudiccas: did you try using xv as the video driver already?
19:06.08goibhniualso is it the nv or nvidia driver that X is using?
19:07.03boudiccasyes, xv made no difference
19:07.59boudiccasi presume the nv driver. i tried installing the nvidia driver from the rpmforge repo and it caused problems and x wouldn't start. so i erased it and i was able to get back into x and kdm
19:08.42goibhniu`grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf` should tell you
19:08.54goibhniuI guess you might also be using vesa?
19:09.33goibhniuI don't seem to have vlc installed so I'm not sure where that sets the video driver
19:09.38goibhniuhave you tried mplayer too?
19:10.39boudiccasmplayer says that i need extra codecs, which i thought were all installed
19:10.49goibhniuhmm
19:11.03goibhniuOh I bet I know why the rpmforge driver didn't work though
19:11.22boudiccasoh? why?
19:11.35goibhniunvidia recently stopped supporting older cards with their newer drivers
19:11.58goibhniuI think you need a 96 version or something ... it's a 4xxx card is it?
19:12.27goibhniuerm ... that doesn't make any sense ... I'll get the details :)
19:12.38boudiccasso if i was to get nvidia drivers from the nvidia site then they won't work with this geforce Ti 4800 SE?
19:13.14goibhniuoh a 4800 might be borderline ... there's a way to check with lspci I think .. 1 sec
19:14.54goibhniuyep (http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html)
19:15.09goibhniuonly a 1.0-96xx will work
19:15.59goibhniuhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9639.html
19:17.20goibhniuyou can install it with the nvidia installer and just change a line in xorg.conf and it'll work
19:17.47goibhniuI'm not sure, but the installer may change the line for you too
19:18.40boudiccasgoibhniu; i asked in #xine about the yellow everything and this was the answer that i was given .... ' you need to reset the configuration and re-autodetect the xv port' which worked
19:19.16goibhniuoh cool!
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20:04.07morsingGOIBHNIU!!!
20:04.14morsingibot IRL
20:04.15ibotextra, extra, read all about it, irl is In Real Life, and a really good way to piss off your SO.
20:04.34morsingAhh... :)  
20:04.37morsingIRL is nice
20:14.40wethrinHeh
20:17.50morsingwethrin? Are you still up?
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20:17.55morsingWhy did catalyst leave?
20:17.58morsingcatalyst!
20:18.06catalystmorsing!
20:18.16catalystbecause x-chat went screwy
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20:26.07morsingclive-h!
20:26.44clive-hHi morsing
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20:35.40morsingcatalyst`: ?
20:37.10catalyst`ISP disconnected meh /o\
20:37.18catalyst`we have a flakey connection
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20:38.12morsingclive-h!
20:38.23clive-hHi again
20:39.03wethrinmorsing! Don't forget to phone me from around Darlington
20:39.26morsingDarlington, N.S.W.?
20:39.41wethrinCo. Durham
20:39.46morsingRight
20:40.03wethrinMake sure I'll be up in time :)
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