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07:10.48morsing'morning alll
07:10.55morsings/l///
07:11.04morsingibot wake ibot
07:11.06ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ibot and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
07:21.42morsingLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDS!
08:42.43morsing~seen cat
08:42.46ibotcat is currently on #debian (1h 24m 42s) #gnu-kbsd (1h 24m 42s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 1h 22m 40s, last said: 'how can i create such a partition'.
08:42.46morsing~seen catalyst
08:42.48ibotcatalyst <n=catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 6d 11h 59m 20s ago, saying: 'heya'.
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08:44.39morsingibot wethrin
08:44.41ibotextra, extra, read all about it, wethrin is bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha
08:44.43morsingping wethrin
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10:56.24morsingclive-h!
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11:55.51morsingtrousers_!
12:43.34z00daxweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
12:43.39z00daxsmoke free pubs!
12:43.50z00daxmorsing: how'se it going ?
12:52.26z00daxhere comes the rain again....
13:06.14boudiccasits wimbledon time, what did you expect? :)
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14:40.56boudiccasi'm trying to enable my wikis which are only open to me, i've restarted apache but when i go to their homepage it only shows the php code. hwo do i get them to display properly please?
14:47.27haliboudiccas: you're on centos right? have you installed the php packages?
14:48.31boudiccasyes, centos 5. ah, i don't know, i'll check . thanks
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14:50.22halithe php package puts a php.conf file in /etc/httpd/conf.d to set the file type handeler and stuff
14:50.43haliyou may have to add index.php to the DirectoryIndex clause in httpd.conf (or whatever file you defined the wiki stuff in
14:56.57boudiccasright, sorted after installing php and restarting apache. thanks
15:00.04boudiccasnext question is about dokuwiki. any dokuwiki afficianodos here please?
15:00.07antiphaseYou'll have to file a bug report. "PHP not working when PHP not installed. " ;)
15:00.17boudiccasantiphase; rofl
15:00.37antiphasedoku sounds like dookie
15:29.48boudiccasall wikis now sorted and fully functional after i've sorted out the permissions. thanks for the help :)
15:32.40wethrinmorsing: pong?
15:33.00gw280hi wethrin
15:33.06wethrinhi gw280
15:33.13wethrinDid you make Glasgow go boom?
15:33.36gw280I AM NOT A TERRORIST
15:33.55wethrinsuuure
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16:48.01Ch0HagSo - what are the pros and cons of hacking ifupdown to configure the interfaces file from debconf rather than manually?
16:48.13Ch0HagGiven that the 'adminstrator' of the machine I build will be a daemon of some sort.
17:14.17antiphaseIf it hasn't been done already, it's probably not necessary
17:16.23Ch0HagIt's not, but I'm hacking my own Debian rip-off and just pondering the idea.
17:28.08morsingBeer
17:28.27morsingibot gw280 is a terrorist
17:28.29ibot...but gw280 is already something else...
17:29.25morsingwethrin: What did you have for lunch?
17:33.15clive-hwhy?
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17:34.00morsingLooks like a man but sounds like a woman
17:34.30clive-hThey may in fact be a FTM transsexual then
17:35.00morsingibot FTM
17:35.10clive-hFemale to Male
17:35.17morsingAhh...
17:35.36clive-hI'd imagine ibot knows not of such things
17:36.06morsingWe need to teach ibot then...
17:36.28clive-hMight as well teach him MTF too then
17:37.12morsingSound nice
17:37.39clive-hAllegedly half of the female kernel developers are MTF TSes
17:37.49clive-hThe ones I've met certainly were
17:38.09morsingSounds fun
17:38.31clive-hDunno a hacker is a hacker is a hacker innit
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18:53.03morsingclive-h!
18:54.08clive-hHi
18:54.19z00daxgw280: death!
19:02.23morsingz00dax!
19:12.04morsinganyone have some beer?
19:12.53morsingwethrin?
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19:26.13z00daxmorsing: i do
19:26.49clive-hI do too
19:27.39z00dax:)
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19:59.51halil33t b33r
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20:30.31niv_one_threeok, what is the better approch on a home pc with three users: a user named backup to carry the backup of their home dir
20:30.54niv_one_threeor crontab each user a backup task?
20:32.29antiphaseDoing it per user will simplify the permissions required
20:32.39niv_one_threeright
20:32.46antiphaseIt's more likely that backups will take place cewntrally as root though
20:33.10antiphaseThere's no need to have a separate user for *everything*, wlthough I commend your enthusiasm :)
20:33.17niv_one_threeyet I can chmod g+r and add user backup to their group
20:33.41antiphaseThey still have the option of creating files that can't be backed up
20:33.50niv_one_threeright
20:34.09niv_one_threeI just dont feel root should do this
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21:05.57haliit depends if you need user level restores or not i guess
21:06.02halisnapshots are nice for that sort of thing
21:06.27haliand then just a simple cron'd backup of everything for disaster recovert
21:06.31halirecovery*
21:10.28halior setup a nice lustre environment :-)
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21:28.14clive-hCluster?
21:31.35boudiccashali;  whats a 'lustre' environment?
21:33.12haliboudiccas: distributed file system, mostly used in really big scientific computation clusters.. it's super fast and extremly redundant.. but requires like 10 computers to be worth the effort
21:33.37haliit's pretty cool
21:33.40boudiccashali; ah, ty
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22:26.45wethrinmorsing?
22:26.46wethrinhello
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22:46.04gw280:'(
22:47.42wethringw280!
23:10.30morsingwethrin!
23:10.48morsingWhat's the tool for adding apt sources?
23:12.25wethrinvi
23:12.28wethrinvi /etc/apt.sources.list
23:12.30wethrinEr
23:12.35wethrinvi /etc/apt/sources.list
23:12.36wethrineven
23:12.37morsingAnd the sources would be???
23:13.08wethrinFind it from an appropriate website
23:13.26morsingThanks. See starting the tool would have been so much easier...
23:14.21wethrinsorry. That's not very helpful. What, in particular, are you trying to do?
23:15.21morsingIn newer versions of Debian, the sources.list file is broken after install and only has a CD source in it
23:18.29wethrinAh
23:18.44wethrinUm. I don't have a Debian system to hand ATM - they're turned off
23:18.52morsingSo I'm stuck then. Can't install anything :(
23:19.32wethrinhttp://www.geocities.com/reverendsky/sourceslist.txt
23:19.39wethrinLook at that one
23:22.18morsingThat's for AMD64?
23:22.50morsingOne sec, will get it from my other system
23:25.48wethrinNo...
23:25.57morsingNo...?
23:26.15morsingWell, just copied from another system (that works) but it doesn't work
23:26.29wethrinHow so?
23:26.45morsingW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
23:27.32wethrinIt's more recommended to use something like mirror.ox.ac.uk
23:28.04wethrinRight:
23:28.11wethrindk@compsoc:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
23:28.11wethrindeb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian etch main contrib non-free
23:28.11wethrindeb http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian etch main contrib non-free
23:28.11wethrindeb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
23:30.05morsingOk, maybe I should have run an update before trying to use apt-cache :)
23:30.50morsingYeah - that was it ;-)
23:30.58morsingWhat did you have for lunch?
23:31.22wethrinUm. Some light stuff
23:31.27wethrinYes, you should run update :)
23:31.51wethrinCream cheese stuffed jalapeno peppers, deep fried brie, prawn parcel
23:32.19morsingNo meat?
23:33.10wethrinNo. I had pizza in the evening
23:33.14wethrinIt was only a light lunch
23:33.19wethrinbiab
23:34.18morsingHow do I set an application to be default for a file type in Gnome?
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23:40.10wethrinNo idea
23:43.21goibhniumorsing: right click on a file in nautilus and open the properties
23:44.02goibhniuone of the tabs in that window is "open with" ... you can select the default app to open a file of that type there
23:44.40morsingThanks
23:45.30goibhniunp
23:47.15wethrinmorsing: So...is Derbyshire happening on the 11th August, or should I come back to London for the GBBF?
23:50.00morsingibot GBBF
23:50.25morsingwethrin: I have one more person I can ask to do my on-call. Will get back to you tomorrow
23:50.38wethrinGreat British Beer Festival
23:50.39morsingGo Beer & Bacon Festival
23:50.39wethrinOkay
23:50.42wethrin:)
23:50.48wethrinI don't think I'll be able to afford to do both
23:50.58morsingRight...
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