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| 06:53.39 | niv_one_three | hi, all this morning I got two questions: |
| 06:53.58 | niv_one_three | 1. what is the common hour ppl get to work in the UK? |
| 06:54.43 | niv_one_three | 2. how may I sync an ftp and a samba server without opening extra ports except smb and ftp? |
| 07:27.52 | SlayerXP | 1. 1400 - 1500 is a common hour people work in the UK |
| 07:28.04 | SlayerXP | 2. I don't understand the question. |
| 07:29.10 | niv_one_three | thanks, I got a FTP site on site A , got a samba server on site B , I seek to have one directory on both synced |
| 07:31.00 | niv_one_three | 1. I was wondering if 9am is common in most planes |
| 08:11.58 | antiphase | I fail to see any connection between FTP and Samba, other than they both enable a user to move files around |
| 08:12.20 | antiphase | Stop worrying about ports and get yourself a firewall man! |
| 08:25.15 | bilarh_ | with regards to synchronization, you could run a wget --mirror on one side |
| 08:25.27 | bilarh_ | though rsync might be nicer, but doesn't work over ftp (afaik) |
| 08:25.49 | antiphase | Works beautifully over SSH though |
| 08:26.22 | bilarh_ | yeah, but requires keys |
| 08:26.34 | bilarh_ | then again, wget might require a password on the command line instead :P |
| 08:26.47 | bilarh_ | rsync is a really cool package actually, i really like it |
| 08:26.59 | bilarh_ | although it's really slow when you have a load of files to send |
| 08:27.14 | bilarh_ | to keep in sync, i mean |
| 08:27.26 | bilarh_ | but that's more down to the stat syscall, i guess :) |
| 08:28.00 | bilarh_ | and it sucks if your clocks aren't synchronized as well |
| 08:28.33 | bilarh_ | hmm... odd.. i've got this sun x4100 and it keeps identifying different amounts of memory |
| 08:28.42 | bilarh_ | sometimes it says 8 gigs, other times 12 |
| 08:28.48 | bilarh_ | and sometimes the counter stops at 1937 megs :P |
| 08:28.53 | antiphase | rsync sucks donkey balls if you try and sync lots of files without huge amounts of RAM |
| 08:28.55 | bilarh_ | i wonder if it will be stable :P |
| 08:29.16 | bilarh_ | hmm... i remember writing a shell script once to replace rsync |
| 08:29.23 | bilarh_ | strangely, it was faster :) |
| 08:29.51 | bilarh_ | not the actual file transfer process, as that was done using scp anyway, but the "finding what file to transfer" portion was a lot faster |
| 08:35.46 | bilarh_ | ehm... |
| 08:35.49 | bilarh_ | how about this problem... |
| 08:35.56 | bilarh_ | i've set a root password on my new centos box... |
| 08:36.06 | bilarh_ | and i can do a "su - " as 'myself' |
| 08:36.11 | bilarh_ | and it doesn't ask for a password |
| 08:40.39 | bilarh_ | hmm |
| 08:40.43 | bilarh_ | seems i can su to any user |
| 08:50.10 | bilarh_ | hrm... but if i log in on the console, it asks for a root password |
| 08:50.16 | bilarh_ | and it's the correct one as well |
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| 08:54.02 | phearless | hi guys ! |
| 08:59.06 | Ch0Hag | "Why, it's almost as if suicide bombing was a fairly dumb tactic. The 7/7 bombers seem to have been one of very few terror groups in the UK who were competent enough to make explosives and weren't under plod/spook surveillance, and now they're all dead." |
| 09:00.34 | Ch0Hag | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/02/terror_idiocy_outbreak/ is a rather amusing read. |
| 09:10.04 | bilarh_ | hehe, good article |
| 09:10.12 | bilarh_ | and frankly, a sensible one as well |
| 09:10.18 | cpufreak | bilarh_: what did alex say when you told him you were a quitter? |
| 09:10.46 | bilarh_ | he hasn't said anything to be honest |
| 09:10.59 | cpufreak | he called me a cunt when I said I was leaving :| |
| 09:11.04 | cpufreak | :) |
| 09:11.06 | bilarh_ | ouch :P |
| 09:11.32 | bilarh_ | why did you leave anyway? :) |
| 09:11.47 | bilarh_ | apart from working in a vastly superiour country close to the ring (you bastard) :) |
| 09:12.15 | cpufreak | I wanted to work for a startup |
| 09:12.24 | cpufreak | and have some meaningful stock options |
| 09:12.28 | bilarh_ | fair enough |
| 09:12.36 | bilarh_ | i want to work for someone that isn't a startup :-) |
| 09:13.16 | bilarh_ | and also, i want to ensure that i can still drive a car ten years from now, so i'm going into oil exploration :) |
| 09:13.22 | cpufreak | why are you leaving? |
| 09:13.23 | cpufreak | ahh |
| 09:13.46 | bilarh_ | i'll still be a *nix-admin though |
| 09:14.46 | cpufreak | did the job find you or did you find the job? |
| 09:16.01 | bilarh_ | the first one |
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| 09:36.36 | gw280 | anyone going to UKUUG in Cambridge this summer? |
| 10:33.14 | gw280 | in soviet russia bonded interfaces hate xen |
| 10:33.51 | antiphase | Bonded interfaces are for poor people. I suppose Xen is too though, so you are forgiven. |
| 10:51.05 | rhowe | heh |
| 10:51.24 | rhowe | What's the non-poor alternative to bonding.ko then? |
| 10:52.47 | SlayerXP | i'm not poor, I use bonding |
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| 10:57.38 | bilarh_ | goibhniu, what's up, what's up, what's up? |
| 11:16.36 | bilarh_ | oh, interest rates are, it seems :-) |
| 11:16.51 | wethrin | That's good for me! |
| 11:17.11 | bilarh_ | and for the future of the country as well |
| 11:17.28 | bilarh_ | shame it was only +.25% though |
| 11:17.34 | wethrin | Except for those people with mortgages |
| 11:17.36 | niv_one_three | ok, so I guess that I would just copy only when source in newer from the ftp to the smb site |
| 11:17.37 | bilarh_ | i would have wanted a 0.5 at least :-) |
| 11:17.48 | bilarh_ | niv_one_three: you mean with rsync? |
| 11:17.59 | niv_one_three | na with a simple cp script |
| 11:18.08 | bilarh_ | niv_one_three: seriously, rsync is *the* tool to use for this... if you can get away with using it, use it |
| 11:18.18 | niv_one_three | I was hoping there is a better mechanizm |
| 11:18.45 | niv_one_three | no I am sorry my sysadmin wont open ports... |
| 11:19.03 | niv_one_three | hi wethrin |
| 11:19.08 | wethrin | hi niv_one_three |
| 11:19.14 | wethrin | rsync will work over ssh |
| 11:19.31 | bilarh_ | niv_one_three: so how do you plan to do it with cp? :P |
| 11:19.37 | niv_one_three | seems that what morsng said wasnt that way off |
| 11:20.02 | niv_one_three | chicks dig man with modest maners |
| 11:20.30 | niv_one_three | bilarh_: I mount the ftp then cp from it to the smb |
| 11:20.41 | bilarh_ | what? |
| 11:20.51 | niv_one_three | I mean good girls dig bad boys |
| 11:21.11 | bilarh_ | mounting smb shares suck |
| 11:21.15 | bilarh_ | it invariably fails |
| 11:21.20 | bilarh_ | ok on a desktop machine, but not on a production |
| 11:21.21 | niv_one_three | mount the ftp as a filesystem then copy files from it to the smb mount |
| 11:21.25 | wethrin | It always works for me |
| 11:21.44 | bilarh_ | yeah it works, but then the smb server needs restarting and your mount turns into a steaming pile of turd |
| 11:21.45 | wethrin | mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/mountpoint -o username=USER,password=PASS |
| 11:21.57 | wethrin | It's always magically reconnected fo rme |
| 11:22.01 | wethrin | Bit like NFS that way |
| 11:22.08 | bilarh_ | only when your smb server comes back up |
| 11:22.16 | bilarh_ | nfs also sucks in production environments |
| 11:22.18 | bilarh_ | imo |
| 11:22.30 | wethrin | All network filesystems suck |
| 11:22.32 | bilarh_ | i would rather use wget in this instance |
| 11:22.45 | wethrin | I'd still use NFS for Unix-to-Unix |
| 11:23.03 | bilarh_ | niv_one_three: however, if you're hell bent on mounting the smb share, you can still use rsync to do the copies for you |
| 11:23.06 | wethrin | Of course, I use Samba for connecting a couple of my Linux machines together. But that's because I was lazy, and it was the quickest way |
| 11:23.36 | bilarh_ | anyway, i'm going out for lunch :-) |
| 11:23.39 | bilarh_ | have fun |
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| 11:45.42 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: the aquarium looks purty |
| 11:46.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Smart innit? |
| 11:46.27 | goibhniu | awesome |
| 11:46.53 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I hate the Buddha background tho' |
| 11:47.29 | goibhniu | yah ... I'm just on black at the moment ... I was thinking a starfield would be an improvement |
| 11:47.54 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Can you get the fish tank then? |
| 11:48.46 | goibhniu | I don't think so .. it's concerning me actually, I know they've changed a lot of stuff this week, but I haven't seen any of it yet :( |
| 11:50.28 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Funnily enough I'm concerned too, I think the 'Beryl' install I have is now superseded, any idea which is the main one now? is it compiz-fusion? |
| 11:50.46 | goibhniu | yep |
| 11:51.08 | goibhniu | maybe you just need to install compiz-fusion |
| 11:51.21 | goibhniu | I had to faddle around to get it working though |
| 11:51.35 | goibhniu | it doesn't have anything like the lovely beryl-manager |
| 11:52.40 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Bugger, reading the forum (Arch) you have to do all that 'man' stuff like compiling ect I'm crap at that especially when you get "Add such and such flag" I normally sit in a corner and blubber like bilarh_;-) |
| 11:53.48 | goibhniu | but doesn't arch have some magic sauce for compiling stuff for you? |
| 11:54.30 | goibhniu | you may have to set up some general flags but I'd say it's a one off thing |
| 11:54.44 | goibhniu | I never got that far with it though |
| 11:55.17 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I believe so, I've not got that far yet I'm still crawling and dribbling I'm hoping to be at the 'toddler' stage very soon |
| 11:56.44 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: you should do some compiling for penance ... it's not as scary as you think |
| 11:57.52 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I have done it a few times and 99% of the time its OK but with me its always the App I really really want that fails to compile |
| 12:00.29 | goibhniu | it can be painful enough alright, mainly trying to satisfy the dependencies I guess |
| 12:00.36 | goibhniu | any luck with wifi-radar? |
| 12:02.42 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I may have a go at installing compiz-fusion I believe you can have 'that' and Beryl installed at the same time so long as one or the other is not running |
| 12:03.16 | goibhniu | you're on kde, right? |
| 12:03.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Yep |
| 12:03.24 | goibhniu | I don't think that's so easy on gnome |
| 12:03.28 | goibhniu | cool |
| 12:03.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I hate gnome (personal choice) |
| 12:04.19 | goibhniu | any idea what's cool about kde4? |
| 12:04.39 | goibhniu | I looked around a bit but couldn't find a list of features or anything |
| 12:04.46 | goibhniu | new frameworks for sound etc |
| 12:04.57 | goibhniu | which sounds like a good idea |
| 12:05.15 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Installed wifi-radar last night it found BT HomeHUB and BT Voyager Of course I'm such a good boy I didn't try and connect to them ;-) |
| 12:05.58 | goibhniu | nice, well it's not like it trys to crack the keys or anything |
| 12:06.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Correct me if I'm, wrong but I believe opensuse 10.3 is gonna have KDE4 |
| 12:06.37 | goibhniu | it just connects if they have no security set up |
| 12:06.49 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: AirSnort? |
| 12:07.21 | goibhniu | I dunno, never tried tbh |
| 12:07.32 | goibhniu | I believe it's trivial though |
| 12:08.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Um I'm told it can get everything (if you know what I mean) |
| 12:11.42 | goibhniu | I restrict by MAC address myself. I suppose that can be broken into too, but at least it stops people stumbling onto it. |
| 12:12.14 | goibhniu | I use my email address as the essid so if anyone asks, they can get on. |
| 12:12.44 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: OK teach me. I take it you've set it up to authenticate MAC address's? |
| 12:12.59 | goibhniu | it was just a setting on the router |
| 12:13.30 | goibhniu | then you hit a button to search for machines that you want to allow to connect |
| 12:13.50 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Apparently (Don't quote me) McDonalds have open connections? |
| 12:17.20 | goibhniu | hmm ... dunno .. I guess if you were going to release a worm into the wild .. that'd be an appropriate place |
| 12:18.14 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I need to find some victim to test it on, having said that I prefer cable connections anyway |
| 12:19.57 | goibhniu | you should try to connect to your neighbours to test it anyway |
| 12:20.43 | goibhniu | I believe if you boot up a proprietary OS by default it will try to connect to an open network anyway, so you're not doing anything worse than that |
| 12:21.20 | goibhniu | I know a guy who has been trying to get his neighbours to lock down their wifi AP for ages |
| 12:21.51 | goibhniu | he has connected to their network and printed out warnings on their printer to tell them of the horrible danger they're in |
| 12:23.37 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I once logged into my machine at home from work via ssh, displayed a message on the screen to my daughter "What are you doing" and shut it down. She was on my mobile 2 minutes later "Dad somebody has broken into the computer" |
| 12:24.03 | goibhniu | lol! |
| 12:24.52 | goibhniu | does she run arch too? |
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| 12:25.29 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Na, opensuse |
| 12:27.13 | goibhniu | cool! does she like it? |
| 12:31.22 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Both my twin girls love it, my favourite two storey's are related to the IT at their school they moaned that they wanted to use Linux instead of Windows they guy said "whats that?" so they browsed the net and showed him. then a couple of months back a new IT teacher came in all cocky and said "Download oOo for Windows its free" my daughters said "Huh we've been using that for years, just make sure you save it in .d |
| 12:32.13 | goibhniu | hey ... you got snipped there |
| 12:32.26 | goibhniu | ... just make sure you save it in .d ... |
| 12:32.34 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Bum too much text? |
| 12:32.37 | goibhniu | yep |
| 12:32.47 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: 1 sec |
| 12:32.56 | goibhniu | 11x |
| 12:33.00 | dick_turpin | oOo for Windows its free" my daughters said "Huh we've been using that for years, just make sure you save it in .doc format" I wish I could have been there to see his face |
| 12:33.17 | goibhniu | ahh .. classic |
| 12:33.34 | bilarh_ | my god, the guy actually said "what's that?" :-S |
| 12:33.39 | bilarh_ | that's rather scary |
| 12:33.50 | wethrin | Nah - that's fairly standard for IT in schools |
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| 12:34.07 | bilarh_ | ok, well in that case, that's rather scary P |
| 12:34.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Those that can do! Those that cant teach ;-) |
| 12:34.51 | wethrin | Those that can't teach.....administrate |
| 12:34.57 | bilarh_ | heh |
| 12:35.06 | dick_turpin | wethrin: rotfl |
| 12:39.29 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I wish you was coming to lrl I could have worked some more on converting you. My tee shirt has still not turned up, I've ordered a blue quasi Arch colours lappy bag that I hope will turn up in time |
| 12:40.15 | bilarh_ | classic image: http://badger.ing.me.uk/wimbledonvillage.jpg |
| 12:40.22 | wethrin | Where's lrl being held? |
| 12:40.37 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: http://community.livejournal.com/craftgrrl/3674467.html |
| 12:41.21 | goibhniu | is it in the wolves stadium again? |
| 12:41.29 | goibhniu | I think they got a posh venue this time |
| 12:44.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Yeah although its up for sale |
| 12:46.40 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Groan not bloody tie die I'm trying to convert you to Arch and you're trying to convert me to an eco warrior ;-P |
| 12:47.26 | dick_turpin | http://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/index.php/Main_Page |
| 13:11.19 | bilarh_ | leedshk: common problem :-) |
| 13:11.30 | bilarh_ | i don't have a solution, unfortunately |
| 13:11.30 | dick_turpin | LeedsHK: Can you try "I have a friend" instead? |
| 13:12.01 | bilarh_ | or the "i only see you as a friend" line |
| 13:12.30 | bilarh_ | "we're such good friends, i don't want to ruin it" *roll-eyes* |
| 13:13.32 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: No you muppet I meant "I have a friend called dick_turpin would you like to meet him?" |
| 13:13.41 | bilarh_ | oh right :P |
| 13:13.50 | bilarh_ | pure filth, you! |
| 13:16.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Have you not seen LeedsHK's friends? |
| 13:17.18 | bilarh_ | the fit chinese girls? :P |
| 13:17.28 | bilarh_ | well, i might have seen one or two pics |
| 13:18.12 | cpufreak | full metal jacket's a good film |
| 13:18.21 | bilarh_ | s/good/excellent/ |
| 13:18.23 | LeedsHK | yeah... this one told me "I only see you as a friend" a couple of weeks ago... |
| 13:18.33 | bilarh_ | leedshk: return the favour :p |
| 13:18.55 | LeedsHK | she offered to buy me a drink if I met her in a particular bar... |
| 13:19.19 | antiphase | Probably a loss leader |
| 13:19.19 | dick_turpin | LeedsHK: Try say "OK can you see me as a sex machine next week then please?" |
| 13:19.25 | dick_turpin | saying |
| 13:19.26 | LeedsHK | so what if we're just friends - pretty girl buying the drinks :-D |
| 13:19.46 | bilarh_ | antiphase: lol |
| 13:19.54 | LeedsHK | anyway, time to go out |
| 13:20.25 | bilarh_ | l8rs leeds |
| 13:20.37 | dick_turpin | LeedsHK: Can I come with you? |
| 13:21.01 | bilarh_ | all sorts of horrible images just flashed past my eyes :-\ |
| 13:24.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: 8-) |
| 13:28.50 | boudiccas | hm, i've just installed 'powermanga' and now i can't start it. any ideas as to how to start it please? |
| 13:32.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Reboot? |
| 13:33.14 | boudiccas | this is linux not windows |
| 13:33.46 | wethrin | Reboot? |
| 13:34.29 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I don't fancy a flame war but that statement is pants Linux needs rebooting for every new kernel so the argument doesn't hold water |
| 13:34.43 | goibhniu | pow tab tab tab? |
| 13:34.47 | boudiccas | nah, don't want to disturb my uptime. |
| 13:35.38 | boudiccas | pow tab gives me poweroff |
| 13:36.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: So can you get to init 3 or something? |
| 13:37.04 | goibhniu | rpm -L powermanga |
| 13:37.12 | boudiccas | ah, now thats a thought. cd /sbin init 3 as root, cd /sbin init 5 |
| 13:37.49 | boudiccas | -L unknown option |
| 13:38.14 | goibhniu | hmm .. how do you list the files it installs then? |
| 13:38.23 | wethrin | rpm -ql |
| 13:38.28 | antiphase | telinit 6 |
| 13:38.40 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: rpm -e powermaga |
| 13:43.34 | goibhniu | it's a game innit? |
| 13:45.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: rotfl |
| 13:50.58 | goibhniu | http://linux.tlk.fr/games/Powermanga/ ... non? |
| 13:51.33 | boudiccas | it works now, now to reclaim my previous skills :) |
| 13:53.20 | goibhniu | yay! ... I saw a demo of world of padman the other day ... it looks cute |
| 14:00.16 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Thats a game innit? |
| 14:04.34 | goibhniu | ^___^ |
| 14:07.38 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Stop playing with your toys and go and do manly stuff like re-compile your kernel |
| 14:08.03 | wethrin | Hot-rod kernel |
| 14:08.08 | wethrin | MORE POWER |
| 14:10.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: See these guys know how to work |
| 14:10.32 | wethrin | Real men write Fortran! |
| 14:53.39 | hali | fucking redhat, got a nice "Abuse of Service detected for server" from one of my servers after rhn had fucked up and had been downloading the same rpm 5000 times... |
| 14:53.47 | hali | redhat suspended our rhn account :/ |
| 14:53.57 | hali | riiight, it's my fault their updates don't work |
| 14:55.09 | wethrin | boh |
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| 15:09.03 | hali | never had those problems with yum |
| 15:14.56 | bilarh_ | centos ftw :) |
| 15:15.02 | bilarh_ | lobby oracle to support it :) |
| 15:15.51 | boudiccas | what is the acronym 'ftw' please? |
| 15:16.05 | bilarh_ | for the win |
| 15:16.24 | boudiccas | thanks, it sounds odd |
| 15:16.27 | bilarh_ | yeah i know |
| 15:16.47 | bilarh_ | you're just not l33t enough ;-) |
| 15:16.56 | bilarh_ | (i had to ask as well, ftr) |
| 15:16.57 | boudiccas | no, too old :) |
| 15:17.07 | boudiccas | for the record |
| 15:17.40 | boudiccas | .seen serris |
| 15:17.47 | bilarh_ | ftr probably isn't an accepted 'l33t' acronym, though, so i'd recommend against using it :-) |
| 15:18.01 | boudiccas | ,seen serris |
| 15:18.11 | boudiccas | !seen serris |
| 15:18.28 | bilarh_ | ibot_: seen serrir |
| 15:18.30 | bilarh_ | ibot_: seen serris |
| 15:18.34 | boudiccas | can't even get ibot to reply to me now |
| 15:18.37 | bilarh_ | fell at last hurdle :( |
| 15:18.41 | bilarh_ | ibot: seen serris |
| 15:18.42 | ibot | serris <n=a@87-194-78-122.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 21d 1h 53m 53s ago, saying: 'But thanks anyway : )'. |
| 15:18.54 | bilarh_ | ha, it doesn't even know it's own name |
| 15:18.56 | bilarh_ | ibot: stupid bot |
| 15:18.56 | ibot | Stupid human. |
| 15:19.00 | bilarh_ | heh |
| 15:19.08 | boudiccas | blimey, hs has been away a long time |
| 15:19.13 | boudiccas | thanks btw bilarh_ |
| 15:19.16 | bilarh_ | np |
| 15:19.29 | bilarh_ | i think he was called serris_ or something last time |
| 15:19.35 | bilarh_ | ibot: seen serris_ |
| 15:19.36 | ibot | serris_ <n=mro@host-87-74-127-87.bulldogdsl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 123d 18h 48m 26s ago, saying: 'I know'. |
| 15:19.41 | bilarh_ | maybe not :P |
| 15:19.49 | boudiccas | ibot_; seen boudicca |
| 15:20.03 | bilarh_ | not _ |
| 15:20.05 | bilarh_ | just ibot |
| 15:20.06 | boudiccas | ibot: seen boudicca |
| 15:20.07 | ibot | boudicca <n=boudicca@88-108-32-101.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 21d 2h 35m 18s ago, saying: 'right, its gone to you'. |
| 15:20.20 | boudiccas | hmmm |
| 15:21.19 | boudiccas | ibot:seen mozrat |
| 15:21.20 | ibot | mozrat <i=mozrat@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 59d 18h 33m 2s ago, saying: 'how are you?'. |
| 15:21.43 | boudiccas | so many familiar names all seemingly fallen by the wayside |
| 15:22.50 | wethrin | indeed |
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| 15:56.16 | bilarh_ | i want a badonkadonk land cruiser/tank from amazon |
| 15:56.17 | bilarh_ | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00067F1CE/ref=cm_aya_asin.title/002-6/ |
| 15:58.33 | niv_one_three | wow this is nice |
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| 17:27.24 | goibhniu | yet even more free music http://radioincorrect.org/ |
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| 18:42.41 | gnudo | i am trying to install etch on my laptop using CD1. I have booted from that CD and verified its integrity on several PCs and laptops but on MY laptop whenever i boot from it i get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(104,7)" Help!!! |
| 18:43.13 | goibhniu | hmm .. have you tried without acpi? |
| 18:43.27 | goibhniu | there should be some options from the boot menu |
| 18:44.07 | goibhniu | linux acpi=off noapic or something |
| 18:45.47 | gnudo | i tried: install noapic nolapic acpi=off |
| 18:46.08 | gnudo | but the error remains the same |
| 18:46.36 | goibhniu | have you tried any other live cds? |
| 18:46.40 | gnudo | on my laptop i can boot other distros inc live cds OK but i want etch! |
| 18:46.54 | goibhniu | hmm .. that's odd |
| 18:47.32 | goibhniu | is it an old laptop? |
| 18:47.44 | goibhniu | is the cd over 650MB? |
| 18:47.59 | goibhniu | just a guess, but it could be a problem |
| 18:49.10 | gnudo | my laptop is Siemens Scenic Mobile 350. The etch CD1 is not over 650mb |
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| 18:55.23 | goibhniu | any idea if you can specify the device to boot off? |
| 18:56.10 | goibhniu | I know my laptop calls the hd /dev/hdc and cd /dev/hda or something |
| 18:57.03 | dick_turpin | http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=unknown-block%28104%2C7%29&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 18:58.36 | dick_turpin | I had a Fujitsu Amelio, I think it did the same thing with Ubuntu in the end I did a network intsall |
| 18:59.07 | dick_turpin | na, I'm being a good boy and trying to help for once |
| 18:59.11 | goibhniu | :) |
| 19:00.45 | goibhniu | hmm ... I can't find anything useful I don't think |
| 19:01.20 | goibhniu | if you could get into grub you might be able to play with that |
| 19:01.42 | gnudo | i did an identical google search but could not find any newbie friendly etch CD1 related answer to my problem! |
| 19:01.51 | goibhniu | it seems to happen when people forget to compile support for their filesystem into a new kernel |
| 19:02.03 | dick_turpin | Hang on am I getting confused? is etch installed? |
| 19:02.09 | goibhniu | or possibly when they point their boot loader at the wrong device |
| 19:02.13 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: nope |
| 19:02.37 | dick_turpin | so why the buggery bollocks are we playing with grub? |
| 19:02.42 | gnudo | NO distro is installed on the harddrive |
| 19:03.02 | Ch0Hag | Have you tried non-CD boot methods? |
| 19:03.17 | goibhniu | err .. doesn't a live cd use a bootloader too? .. I'm chancing my arm :) |
| 19:04.12 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: (with fingers and toes crossed) No |
| 19:04.51 | Ch0Hag | You could possibly boot off usb stick, and certainly (if you have one) off floppy. |
| 19:05.33 | dick_turpin | gnudo: do me favour, turn the laptop off with the disc still in, wait a couple of mins and switch it on. This is not a live CD is it? |
| 19:06.06 | goibhniu | gnudo: just so you know ... dick_turpin practices voodoo |
| 19:06.23 | Ch0Hag | That usually helps. |
| 19:06.29 | Ch0Hag | Voodoo. |
| 19:06.30 | gnudo | gnu/linux debian 4 installation cd1 |
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| 19:07.12 | dick_turpin | gnudo: OK humor me and switch it off for at least two mins |
| 19:07.44 | gnudo | ok |
| 19:07.47 | Ch0Hag | Two minutes? |
| 19:07.54 | Ch0Hag | What's that going to do that 10 seconds isn't? |
| 19:08.11 | gnudo | it is off and the power cable is unplugged too! |
| 19:08.12 | Ch0Hag | Or is this just voodoo still? |
| 19:08.18 | Ch0Hag | And battery? |
| 19:08.19 | dick_turpin | The Fujis have notoriuos BIOS |
| 19:08.39 | gnudo | do you want me to remove the battery? |
| 19:08.51 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Crap yes battery and power bum |
| 19:08.58 | Ch0Hag | (And CMOS battery... :) |
| 19:09.05 | goibhniu | gnudo: yes and run around the house twice backwards with it! |
| 19:09.11 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Now your taking the pi....... |
| 19:09.44 | goibhniu | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=16339 suggests you can install DSL and dist-upgrade to etch |
| 19:09.45 | gnudo | praying might help! |
| 19:10.00 | Ch0Hag | Or boot off floppy? |
| 19:10.08 | Ch0Hag | EVERYone has a few floppies lying around. |
| 19:10.13 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Ooh thats a gooden |
| 19:10.39 | dick_turpin | If this work you all owe me 3 billion Euro's |
| 19:11.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Not according to your misses ;-) |
| 19:11.10 | Ch0Hag | If the craptop's new enough to not have a floppy drive, it should be able to boot off usb stick. |
| 19:11.42 | gnudo | praying might help! |
| 19:11.48 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: lol |
| 19:11.52 | dick_turpin | gnudo: Go on fire it up we are all waiting |
| 19:12.06 | Ch0Hag | Only if your prayer timeout has elapsed, otherwise you might anger your god. |
| 19:12.08 | gnudo | shall start praying? |
| 19:12.19 | Ch0Hag | Especially if your alignment's wonky. |
| 19:12.35 | goibhniu | indeed ... booting off the usb stick should definitely work ... if the stars are aligned |
| 19:12.59 | gnudo | god? who is talking about god? you are not one of those born again christian right wingers, are you? |
| 19:13.25 | dick_turpin | gnudo: Yes we all are this is the christian linux user group |
| 19:13.49 | goibhniu | except for dick_turpin who's more of a chicken winger |
| 19:14.02 | Ch0Hag | God: "Your god Thoth seeks to possess the Amulet" |
| 19:14.12 | gnudo | dick_turpin :you are very much mistaken! |
| 19:14.36 | Ch0Hag | To whom else would you pray? |
| 19:14.40 | dick_turpin | gnudo: Dont tell me its not a boy |
| 19:14.54 | Ch0Hag | Moloch? |
| 19:14.55 | goibhniu | wtf there's a #debian-boot !! |
| 19:15.26 | gnudo | Ch0Hag: I would pray to our beloved Patron Saint! |
| 19:15.33 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Thats a secret Mac user group they are ashamed to dmit it |
| 19:15.40 | dick_turpin | admit |
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| 19:15.58 | dick_turpin | gnudo: How we doing? |
| 19:16.02 | gnudo | goibhniu: i asked there! |
| 19:16.34 | gnudo | dick_turpin : what do you mean? |
| 19:16.36 | dick_turpin | 10 mins till I turn into Turpin's Taxi's |
| 19:16.56 | dick_turpin | gnudo: Have you booted it yet?? |
| 19:17.27 | gnudo | <dick_turpin> i am about to. any special boot arguments you want me to go for? |
| 19:17.52 | dick_turpin | gnudo: Yes "Boot you bastard" |
| 19:18.22 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: grr .. smugs |
| 19:18.23 | gnudo | <dick_turpin> stop being a d***! |
| 19:18.31 | Ch0Hag | That's not an argument. |
| 19:18.35 | Ch0Hag | Though it might start one. |
| 19:18.42 | goibhniu | lol |
| 19:19.01 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Actually its a flag directive |
| 19:20.18 | Ch0Hag | Why do voodoo people study entrails? |
| 19:20.38 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Somebody has too |
| 19:20.47 | Ch0Hag | Couldn't the person who came up with it have thought that maybe it would be better to study the roasted non-entrail parts? |
| 19:21.39 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Never guess what the codename for the next Arch is? |
| 19:22.07 | goibhniu | satan's shiney face? |
| 19:22.31 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Na, "Don't Panic" |
| 19:23.17 | goibhniu | cute ... arch rocks again for being cool! |
| 19:23.53 | goibhniu | gnudo: did it work? |
| 19:23.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Ah but the full title is "Don't panic just cos dick_turpin has his weapon in his hand" |
| 19:24.17 | goibhniu | :D |
| 19:24.38 | dick_turpin | gnudo: yeah I'm going in a sec, whats the verdict? |
| 19:25.06 | gnudo | no |
| 19:25.30 | dick_turpin | $%&*£*~@@@ |
| 19:26.48 | dick_turpin | I'll be back in about 40 minutes, is there a network boot iso? try with that it should be on the CD under boot |
| 19:27.22 | goibhniu | or Ch0Hag's wise usb boot solution |
| 19:30.02 | Ch0Hag | I think the net boot iso will be the same. |
| 19:30.32 | Ch0Hag | The CD does boot elsewhere right? It's not a bad burn/ |
| 19:31.01 | goibhniu | affirmative .. and other cds boot on the same laptop |
| 19:31.21 | Ch0Hag | Maybe it's a semi-bad burn combined with a crap cd drive? |
| 19:31.24 | goibhniu | and s/he's verified the cd |
| 19:31.41 | gnudo | yes i have! |
| 19:33.00 | goibhniu | I guess if you had a usb cd drive you could try that too |
| 19:36.57 | goibhniu | "Dúirt mise Pól an cóta a chur air." |
| 19:37.21 | goibhniu | go h'íontach! |
| 19:37.28 | goibhniu | http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/indir.htm |
| 19:37.48 | goibhniu | ups ... wrong # ... sorry |
| 19:40.52 | gnudo | <goibhniu> no usb cd drive |
| 19:43.38 | morsing | *! |
| 19:44.43 | morsing | ? |
| 19:44.48 | morsing | wethrin? |
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| 20:03.40 | Ch0Hag | "We prefer to use the term IP telephony instead of VoIP because it includes non IP elements," |
| 20:03.46 | Ch0Hag | Um... How does that work? |
| 20:04.13 | clive-h | That doesn't make sense |
| 20:04.51 | Ch0Hag | Well according to this random article he then popped open a powerpoint presentation, so I think brains weren't in it. |
| 20:09.46 | morsing | richardc! |
| 20:09.56 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 20:10.17 | goibhniu | morsing: how are you? |
| 20:10.45 | goibhniu | nobody has any idea what wethrin ate for lunch today btw |
| 20:11.04 | dick_turpin | How we doin? |
| 20:11.51 | clive-h | Hi morsing |
| 20:16.03 | dick_turpin | gnudo: You got it installed yet or have you given up? |
| 20:17.01 | gnudo | i am still getting the same kernel panic problem |
| 20:17.56 | dick_turpin | Seeing as I've missed some bits, have you got a floppy drive? |
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| 20:23.18 | morsing | goibhniu: Good thanks - you? |
| 20:28.20 | gnudo | yes i have a floppy drive |
| 20:45.17 | wethrin | morsing: yes? |
| 20:58.44 | morsing | What did you have for lunch? |
| 20:59.51 | wethrin | "Mexican" chicken sandwich. With crisps and choclate. |
| 21:00.10 | wethrin | I'm off to Manchester tomorrow, so won't be online over the weekend |
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| 21:31.05 | morsing | Nice |
| 21:32.03 | clive-h | I don't think any of my current pcs have a floppy drive |
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| 21:58.17 | wethrin | morsing! |
| 22:11.53 | cpufreak | does anyone want a 6 year old black lab? |
| 22:18.53 | wethrin | We already have a dog |
| 22:23.14 | cpufreak | ok |
| 22:23.15 | cpufreak | its free |
| 22:24.33 | cpufreak | http://photos.jml.net/c1318352.html |
| 22:24.39 | cpufreak | er wrong thing |
| 22:24.42 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/lab/ |
| 22:25.57 | wethrin | Why do you want to get rid of it? |
| 22:26.05 | cpufreak | its not mine |
| 22:26.11 | cpufreak | a friend of my sister's is moving from paris to new york |
| 22:26.17 | cpufreak | it will be put down if a home can't be found |
| 22:26.20 | wethrin | Oh :( |
| 22:26.24 | cpufreak | as there aren't proper dog shelters in paris |
| 22:26.25 | wethrin | So it's in France? |
| 22:26.27 | cpufreak | its got a chip |
| 22:26.34 | cpufreak | so can move around the place fine, without quarantine issues |
| 22:26.44 | wethrin | So it's got the 'passport', then? |
| 22:26.46 | cpufreak | yes |
| 22:27.33 | wethrin | I'd otherwise be tempted, exccept that a) @parents already have a dog, and b) I'm not allowed one in Durham |
| 22:27.43 | cpufreak | two is better than one! |
| 22:27.53 | wethrin | Not with a really old cat around |
| 22:28.06 | cpufreak | i'd have it if I could keep it, but I have to travel lots, and I work stupidly long hours |
| 22:28.21 | wethrin | yeah, which isn't fair on the dog |
