IRC log for #gllug on 20070709

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06:40.32niv_one_threey the hell is it that after someone contribs to the workplace and builds a good project he will be laied off with no compensation?
06:41.01niv_one_threeI mean one tends to contrib , assuming he will stay to harvest the fruits?
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07:36.04bilarhyo bitches
07:49.01niv_one_three:-)
08:04.37haliyo dawg
08:04.49bilarhwassup, G?
08:05.38halinoi'n much, sup wiv da ride
08:18.19niv_one_threehi hali
08:18.50niv_one_threeI posted cause I was looking for advise on how to avoid this common practice, at th work place
08:19.23niv_one_threebut I guess this happens often , one puts more effort, and gets scrood
08:24.37halinever seen that
08:24.49halibut i've been quite lucky and never worked in any really crap companies
08:24.56bilarhniv_one_three: it must be because you work with arseholes :-)
08:25.02halieffort is rewarded where i work
08:25.13halislackers are demoted to typists
08:25.42bilarhi've worked with loads of people like that too... the solution is to note down who they are and then when they ask for information give incorrect information or produce such crap work for them that they have to redo it themselves, then they stop pestering you and stealing your work
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08:31.43niv_one_threeI was thinking of putting clauses in the contract so when one is given more responsibility, they would be rewarded, in case they are laied off
08:31.52niv_one_threea kind of ensurnce net
08:32.13niv_one_threeyet its hard to impliment it in real life..
08:32.16haliniv_one_three: in your own company?
08:32.30haliyeah, no company would agree to that...
08:32.46niv_one_threehali: remians to be seen
08:33.01niv_one_three(my English sucks)
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09:52.38dick_turpinLeeds: You a mouse then? ;-)
09:53.42Leeds*squeak*
09:53.54Leedshow's life out on the highways?
09:54.44dick_turpinPretty cool, ironing my kit ready for my trip to Rome tomorrow :-)
09:55.00bilarhooh, rome
09:55.03Leedsnice
09:55.10bilarhdo they have lots of cats there?
09:55.18LeedsI think I'm going to Causeway Bay tomorrow
09:55.46dick_turpinbilarh: I hope so I used to be a cat burgular
09:56.55bilarheither that, or it just went right above my head :-)
09:57.03bilarhi used to be the cheshire cat... does that count?
09:57.11dick_turpinbilarh: You was supposed to say "really?"
09:57.18bilarhreally?
09:57.51Leedsdick_turpin: you used to steal felines?
09:58.00dick_turpinbilarh: Yeah! I've got two thousand bloody cats in a cupboard at home! Ta Da
09:58.17bilarhwow :-)
09:59.13dick_turpinLeeds: Feels safe now there's no cats to eat him
09:59.19cpufreakhttp://photo.ing.me.uk/albums/denpoll/IMG_0081.sized.jpg
09:59.23bilarhbut they're all in your cupboard
09:59.25cpufreakquick simple solution to two thousands cats.
09:59.54bilarhcpufreak: btw, i asked around about the dog, but it seems nobody wants it :(
09:59.59cpufreakits ok
10:00.01cpufreakIt has a home
10:00.06bilarhah cool :D
10:00.24Leedsa loving one?
10:00.27cpufreakyep
10:00.32cpufreakand I've offered to be the courier
10:00.33cpufreakhttp://badger.ing.me.uk/express_dog.jpg
10:01.02Leedsheh
10:01.45dick_turpinLugRadio Live was pretty cool, came away with lots of swag
10:01.47Leedsthe weather is bloody great today - too nice to be stuck in an office...
10:02.00cpufreakso go outside then
10:02.09LeedsI'm about to, in a going-home sense
10:02.21Leedsdid have a really nice day yesterday :-)
10:02.50bilarhthe weather's been great in london over the past two days as well
10:03.14dick_turpinLeeds: I'm at home, looking out the patio doors, its sunny here too
10:03.16bilarhso great in fact, that i now have glass fibre dust everywhere in my eyes and in my arms
10:03.49LeedsBBC says 20C/rain for London on Monday
10:04.28bilarhso? i'm stuck in an office today anyway :-)
10:04.39wethrinHello
10:04.48dick_turpinwethrin: cooee
10:05.19wethrinwhatup!
10:05.22Leedsat least I have a window-seat desk with a harbour view... got the same view from the water yesterday
10:06.15bilarhi've got a window view as well... unfortunately it's facing a browny red building about 5 meters away :)
10:06.29cpufreakahh, but henrik, there's women in the other building
10:06.43cpufreakmarketing woemn at that
10:06.51bilarhthe best was the support team at the bank... they had a window, but literally less than a meter away, there was this brown brick wall, and that's all they could see :D
10:07.14bilarhcpufreak: ah, marketing wimmin are good, but i seem to be opposite the it team or something :-)
10:07.19dick_turpinLeeds: I usually stick bloody poster of a harbour view up at the window
10:08.36bilarhdid someone see cabin fever on tv last night?
10:08.40bilarhit must be the worst film plot ever
10:09.13bilarhit seemed like a typical "oh no, we have no plot, let's just put some fit women on screen and film their arses a lot" :-)
10:09.16bilarhit was terribly
10:09.29bilarhs/terribly/terrible/
10:12.31Leedshttp://wanderingjew.co.uk/static/harbour.jpg - taken with a crappy phone camera out of hte window
10:13.04bilarhi love hk..
10:13.12bilarhmy wife wants to go in october
10:13.17bilarhdon't know if i can afford it thought
10:13.20Leedsbilarh: this is the eastern harbour, not TST
10:13.28bilarhit's like 650 quid each
10:13.43Leedsfeel free to send just her - I'm sure I can show her a good time...
10:13.57bilarhi know kung fu :P
10:14.21LeedsI know, uh, Python!
10:14.31bilarhhehe :)
10:14.39bilarhcan i send her by surface mail? :)
10:14.55Leedsyou mean by boat?
10:15.00bilarhyeah
10:15.09Leedssure... as long as she's got a month or so to spare
10:15.24dick_turpinLeeds: You need to get that tower knocked down its blocking the view
10:15.26bilarhdamn, is that how long it takes... i thought it was more like a week
10:15.43Leedsdick_turpin: I have considered it, yes
10:16.11Leedsbilarh: I think standard surface shipping is going on for a month - that may be round trip time :-)
10:17.08bilarhah, damn :-)
10:17.16dick_turpinLeeds: Plus it looks strange, as if someone has plonked the top section on skew-wiff
10:17.21bilarhit would be kind of cool to work on a shipping boat, don't you think?
10:17.42dick_turpinbilarh: What all them sailor boys eh?
10:17.48bilarhbut then maybe they just visit the same crappy harbours all the time
10:18.21Leedsbilarh: read Michael Palin's around the world... got a couple of good sections about shipping boats
10:18.32Leedsalso, it's on his site to read for free :_)
10:18.56bilarhdick_turpin: you wanna come along? :-)
10:18.57Leedsoh well, I think it's hometime
10:19.32Leedspossibly via M&S...
10:20.04dick_turpinbilarh: I was thinking you'd never ask
10:26.03bilarhfucking visio... it's just crashed on me... what kind of crap software does that all the tiem!?
10:26.23antiphaseYour computer is shit hth hand
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14:44.57z00daxclive-h: hey, around ?
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15:51.48wethringregj!
15:52.03gregjy0 y0
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16:02.00JosefAssadlinux on the palm is a thing of beauty
16:02.17LeedsHKJosefAssad: really???
16:02.31JosefAssadLeedsHK: Note, I didn't say wifi or bluetooth work yet
16:02.38JosefAssadLeedsHK: but that's being worked on
16:02.54LeedsHKwhat Linux, what palm?
16:03.18JosefAssadtungsten T|X
16:03.31JosefAssadhttp://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTXBinaryHowTo
16:03.33JosefAssadbbiab
16:04.33LeedsHKinteresting...
16:04.42LeedsHKmy first contact with hh.org was in about 2001
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18:37.51morsingPuss1nB00ts!
18:50.01Ch0HagBah some people
18:50.04Ch0HagMother: What's that?
18:50.07Ch0HagMe: It's an apple.
18:50.11Ch0HagMother: But what is it.
18:50.15Ch0HagMe: It's an apple.
18:51.10Ch0HagMother: Yes but what is it?
18:51.30Ch0HagMe: It's an apple. An apple mac. A mac mini.
18:51.37Ch0Hag*Mother exit stage left*
19:00.15morsingCh0Hag!
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20:18.04antiphaseErr, yeh OK
21:24.25wethrinmorsing: pong?
21:47.54wethrinAnyone got a spare Linksys WAP54g they want to sell?
21:50.27halito a wag54gs if that is any good (it sucks)
21:50.31haligot*
21:50.39wethrinwag?
21:50.54haliyes
21:51.10haliit's linux based (but still sucks)
21:52.08wethrinI've not had a problem with the WAP54G. Except that it only wants to bridge with other 54Gs
21:53.06halithe wap54g takes about 5 minutes to actually get the link up and working ... and requires a reboot every 3-4 days
21:53.20wethrinIt's never caused me any trouble like that
21:53.29wethrinTakes about 30s to come up
21:53.32halisorry, wag54gs
21:53.34wethrinAhh
21:53.55halii got some cheapo router from ntl for free now... works like a charm
21:54.07halinetgear, white sardine can
21:54.29wethrinThat's what the current router (housemate's) is
21:55.31halihm, why are there no cheap *small* laptops on the market? *whine*
21:55.47wethrinWhy are there no cheap 54Mbit wireless things :) (cheap as in about £3)
21:56.44haliwhy aren't we allowed to set the price tag to whatever we want on anything? :)
21:58.10wethrinindeed
21:58.20wethrinThinking of that, looks like I will be getting one for free
22:03.44halihm, there is a samsung laptop with a 14.1" screen at £474 ... hmm... not exactly slim.. but still ok'ish
22:04.42wethrinOriginal Vaio?
22:04.50wethrinNone of the modern huge hunks-o-crap
22:04.56wethrinOr get an old Powerbook
22:05.16halithe powerbooks are still fairly expensive
22:05.28haliand im not sure how good linux support is on a ppc
22:05.59haliand there is no oracle release for ppc (one of my weird fetishes, installing oracle *everywhere*)
22:06.05wethrinI believe something like Ubuntu pretty much works
22:06.31haliOpenBSD is ment to be 100% solid on a powerbook, which is quite tempting
22:06.55wethrinEven with an Airport Extreme?
22:07.37halinot sure, im spoke to an openbsd fanboy the other day and he said everything worked ... i haven't confirmed
22:08.04wethrinOpenBSD has got very good wireless support. Except for not supporting WPA
22:41.43z00daxhello
22:42.42z00daxthe best powerpc support on Linux is Fedora
22:43.04z00daxand you dont get a working flash > ver 5 compatible thing
22:44.36z00daxwhy run bsd on a powerbook, why not just run opendarwin or osx
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