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| 08:25.38 | bilarh | who here has a dog? |
| 08:30.07 | Cope | we have two dogs |
| 08:30.22 | Cope | well, they belong to parents |
| 08:30.28 | bilarh | what's it like? |
| 08:30.38 | bilarh | like is it possible to fit one in if you're working etc? |
| 08:31.00 | Cope | hmm, i don't know; ours need lots of walking etc |
| 08:31.20 | Cope | nd they're dirty and smelly |
| 08:31.59 | Cope | i think dogs are like children - they're fun as long as you can give them back to their owner |
| 08:32.28 | bilarh | hehe |
| 08:32.47 | bilarh | what breed are they? |
| 08:34.49 | hali | bilarh: so the missis is nagging about a baby and you want to cool her off with a dog? ;) |
| 08:36.05 | bilarh | nah, i just might want a dog :) |
| 08:36.15 | bilarh | it's only a little puppy |
| 08:36.18 | bilarh | *awwww* |
| 08:37.15 | bilarh | it's a staffordshire and bull mastif cross breed, i think |
| 08:37.35 | bilarh | and it's up for grabs or to the knacker's |
| 08:58.34 | niv_one_three | hi all , pls remind me the name of the command to race which files a program uses? |
| 08:59.16 | niv_one_three | like when I run vi file - the command tells me vi is accessing file |
| 09:01.37 | SlayerXP | niv_one_three: lsof |
| 09:02.52 | bilarh | niv_one_three: not race, list :) |
| 09:03.10 | niv_one_three | I mean like a trace command |
| 09:06.54 | niv_one_three | damn it - this command is so common , how come I cant find it in Google |
| 09:08.45 | clive-h | pmap will show the files that are opened by a process |
| 09:09.20 | niv_one_three | but I seek an interactive command that show each file , as it is accessed |
| 09:09.55 | clive-h | strace? |
| 09:09.59 | niv_one_three | YES! |
| 09:10.01 | niv_one_three | thanks |
| 09:13.16 | Ch0Hag | watch ls -lR /proc/*/fd |
| 09:16.41 | clive-h | As always there's more than one way to do it |
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| 10:30.06 | bilarh | cpufreak? |
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| 10:58.25 | Ch0Hag | Um... |
| 10:58.34 | sabinef72 | morning all |
| 10:59.15 | cpufreak | what? |
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| 11:14.14 | kant_ | hi all.. |
| 11:15.13 | kant_ | i've just moved to london and i'd like to join your lug. I'm italian and i'm looking for a job. suggestions (recruitment centres for instance) are welcome. |
| 11:15.54 | kant_ | if you have periodical meetings, i'd like to join you .. I have already been in a Lug (in Naples, Italy). |
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| 11:40.28 | Kream | hey all |
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| 11:40.58 | Kream | mathew, hi |
| 11:41.09 | gazal | hello |
| 11:41.36 | Kream | there you go now :) you should google "irc netiquette" and "irc basics" to figure out some stuff |
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| 13:46.57 | bilarh | man, it is *really* quiet today |
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| 14:08.23 | AnneC | bling bling bling |
| 14:20.54 | boudiccas | kboing |
| 14:21.33 | bilarh | the friday afternoon lull is upon me |
| 14:32.07 | boudiccas | dum de dum |
| 14:37.52 | bilarh | uh-oh, the motivated feeling is gone again :-\ |
| 14:38.18 | boudiccas | Q: What does a houseboat become when it grows up? |
| 14:38.18 | boudiccas | A: A township. |
| 14:38.34 | bilarh | and some weirdo called "Glugg" keeps spamming my email inbox as well |
| 14:38.51 | bilarh | boudiccas: any more? |
| 14:39.07 | boudiccas | possibly |
| 14:39.15 | bilarh | should i get the dog? |
| 14:39.32 | bilarh | i can take it out for walks and go "Alright daaawg" to it all the time |
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| 14:39.41 | bilarh | that would be so ace |
| 14:39.47 | boudiccas | "In the business world, the rearview mirror is always clearer than the |
| 14:39.47 | boudiccas | windshield." |
| 14:39.58 | bilarh | hehehe |
| 14:40.21 | bilarh | i'm scared of being stereotyped into a "wideboy" if i get it though |
| 14:40.25 | rhowe | boudiccas: co-worker came up with "Why shouldn't you hire a dwarf with learning difficulties?" |
| 14:40.43 | boudiccas | why shouldn't you? |
| 14:41.18 | boudiccas | or is this a rhetorical question? |
| 14:41.37 | boudiccas | me neither |
| 14:41.59 | bilarh | rhowe: your jokes suck! ;) |
| 14:42.07 | boudiccas | that went 'woosh' straight over my head |
| 14:43.12 | bilarh | apparently, it's because you shouldn't pet the dog |
| 14:43.23 | bilarh | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Why+shouldn%27t+you+hire+a+dwarf+with+learning+difficulties%3F&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 14:45.38 | boudiccas | its working |
| 14:46.07 | bilarh | the dwarf? |
| 14:47.14 | boudiccas | the dog |
| 14:47.56 | bilarh | yeah |
| 14:49.28 | bilarh | boudiccas: do you have a dog? |
| 14:49.53 | bilarh | ah... i get it now!! |
| 14:49.54 | bilarh | Never buy a dwarf with learning disabilities... |
| 14:49.55 | bilarh | ...it's not big, and it's not clever. |
| 14:49.59 | bilarh | :D |
| 14:50.22 | bilarh | rhowe: shame on you for posting such an insensitive joke! |
| 14:52.35 | rhowe | bilarh: Not my joke! |
| 14:53.05 | boudiccas | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php |
| 14:54.29 | bilarh | boudccas: lol |
| 15:07.41 | boudiccas | www.woot.com |
| 15:33.04 | boudiccas | beer |
| 15:33.12 | boudiccas | bilarh; no |
| 15:33.22 | boudiccas | nor a cat |
| 15:55.19 | bilarh | oh :( |
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| 17:45.36 | gregj | o/ |
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| 18:31.52 | clive-h | heh |
| 18:32.03 | clive-h | where are flying to? |
| 18:32.43 | z00_airport | Over there..... /me points east |
| 18:33.06 | clive-h | Asia? |
| 18:33.11 | z00_airport | India :) go see the family and meet some old friends etc |
| 18:33.27 | clive-h | Ahhh right cool, have a nice holiday |
| 18:34.04 | z00_airport | Thanks. |
| 18:34.10 | LeedsHK | have fun |
| 18:35.41 | morsing | LeedsHK! |
| 18:36.11 | morsing | z00_airport: Have fun z00_airport! |
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| 18:47.38 | morsing | hali! |
| 18:51.02 | morsing | [ing wethrin |
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| 19:17.50 | morsing | z00_airport! |
| 19:19.40 | z00_airport | Morsing! |
| 19:19.41 | z00_airport | Why are you not at the airport ? |
| 19:22.04 | morsing | z00_airport: Well - I wannet to, but then i diidn't? |
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| 20:51.20 | gazal | Hi im a newbie with ubuntu fiesty and Im not quite sure how to set up a vpn to the london school of economics using a mppe ... would be great if I could get some help! |
| 20:53.56 | goibhniu | hi gazal ... I've no idea what that's all about :) |
| 20:54.07 | goibhniu | have you got a howto to follow? |
| 20:54.36 | goibhniu | a quick googling suggested it's possible anyway |
| 20:54.37 | gazal | well yes Im trying to work off this page http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml#install |
| 20:54.53 | goibhniu | ok, is it working out ok? |
| 20:55.04 | gazal | ive got to the stage of installing the client program |
| 20:55.29 | gazal | but i dont understand what comes next :-( |
| 20:55.46 | gazal | how do i add a file to the source list file? |
| 20:56.13 | goibhniu | ok .. that much I know :) |
| 20:56.52 | gazal | oh ...great ... |
| 20:57.18 | goibhniu | there is a nice way, but this will work |
| 20:57.23 | goibhniu | first you need to be root |
| 20:57.26 | goibhniu | sudo su - |
| 20:57.31 | goibhniu | and then your normal password |
| 20:57.48 | goibhniu | then you need to open the sources.list file in an editor |
| 20:58.02 | goibhniu | gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:58.40 | goibhniu | that contains a list of the addresses ubuntu looks for software to download and install |
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| 20:58.54 | gazal | how do i open the sources.list file in an editor? |
| 20:59.05 | goibhniu | the gedit line above |
| 20:59.08 | goibhniu | gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:59.21 | goibhniu | gedit is just the name of an editor |
| 20:59.42 | gazal | to be typed in the terminal? it says cannot display |
| 20:59.57 | gazal | cannot open display rather |
| 21:00.03 | goibhniu | first you need to be the root user (superuser/admin) |
| 21:00.12 | goibhniu | oh |
| 21:00.17 | gazal | I am root |
| 21:00.19 | gazal | I think |
| 21:00.36 | goibhniu | whoami will tell you |
| 21:00.36 | gazal | yes I in root |
| 21:00.52 | goibhniu | and you're using the desktop ... I mean this isn't a server is it? |
| 21:01.00 | gazal | yes desktop |
| 21:01.21 | goibhniu | what happens when you just run gedit from the terminal? |
| 21:02.21 | goibhniu | it should open a text editor |
| 21:02.22 | gazal | it asks me to to type gedit help for more options |
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| 21:02.34 | gazal | no it doesnt if i just type gedit |
| 21:02.56 | goibhniu | hmm ... ok ... lets try nano instead |
| 21:03.09 | goibhniu | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:03.38 | gazal | yea |
| 21:03.49 | goibhniu | cool, now scroll to the bottom of that |
| 21:04.02 | gazal | ok at bottom |
| 21:04.07 | goibhniu | deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig ./ |
| 21:04.11 | goibhniu | paste that in |
| 21:04.41 | goibhniu | then do ctrl+o to write the file |
| 21:05.13 | goibhniu | then ctrl+x to exit |
| 21:06.04 | goibhniu | ok? |
| 21:07.13 | goibhniu | there is some way to do this by clicking buttons ... but I don't have an ubuntu box right now |
| 21:07.43 | gazal | Ive got a command which says file name to write: etc/apt/sources.list/ |
| 21:07.54 | goibhniu | yep |
| 21:08.09 | goibhniu | hit return |
| 21:08.29 | gazal | then what ? save under a different name? |
| 21:08.33 | gazal | no right? |
| 21:08.51 | goibhniu | so you just want to save the change you've made to this file |
| 21:09.03 | goibhniu | sorry .. you could have just done ctrl+x |
| 21:09.22 | goibhniu | just hit return to confirm you want to write this file |
| 21:09.35 | goibhniu | then ctrl+x to exit |
| 21:10.24 | gazal | Im not getting that ... I have three options ... save file under different name? yes, no, cancel |
| 21:11.09 | goibhniu | no |
| 21:11.26 | goibhniu | ctrl+c |
| 21:11.29 | goibhniu | to cancel |
| 21:12.28 | goibhniu | ctrl+x to exit |
| 21:12.53 | gazal | save modified buffer ? |
| 21:12.59 | goibhniu | yep |
| 21:13.39 | goibhniu | now do |
| 21:13.49 | goibhniu | apt-get update |
| 21:14.34 | gazal | but now Im back to the line - 'file name to write' |
| 21:14.41 | gazal | sorry |
| 21:15.07 | goibhniu | it's fine |
| 21:15.11 | gazal | file name to write: /etc/.... |
| 21:15.18 | gazal | is what what i have on my screen now |
| 21:15.43 | goibhniu | hit return |
| 21:15.52 | gazal | ok |
| 21:15.54 | gazal | done |
| 21:16.10 | gazal | back to root |
| 21:16.17 | goibhniu | cool, I know that probably seems like a very awkward way to do things ... but it works :) |
| 21:16.26 | goibhniu | ok ... apt-get update |
| 21:16.43 | goibhniu | this should cause it to look for updates |
| 21:16.48 | gazal | well anything is good ... im just begining to learn linux cmd lines |
| 21:17.08 | goibhniu | and it will pick up the new packages in the list of sources |
| 21:17.41 | gazal | E: Type ‘http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig’ is not known on line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:18.16 | goibhniu | hmm |
| 21:18.30 | goibhniu | that sounds like you're missing "deb" from the start maybe |
| 21:18.43 | gazal | whats that? |
| 21:18.51 | goibhniu | so you can use the up arrow to edit the file again |
| 21:19.05 | goibhniu | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:19.17 | goibhniu | and go back to the new line you added |
| 21:19.32 | goibhniu | and then paste that in here ... but just that one line, ok? |
| 21:19.45 | goibhniu | people will get upset if you paste everything in here :) |
| 21:20.08 | gazal | paste 'deb' right? |
| 21:20.29 | goibhniu | I'd like to have a look at the line that's in your sources.list to make sure |
| 21:20.50 | goibhniu | deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig ./ |
| 21:20.55 | gazal | http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig |
| 21:20.55 | goibhniu | it should say that |
| 21:21.08 | goibhniu | ok ... so you need deb in front of it |
| 21:21.11 | goibhniu | and ./ after it |
| 21:21.34 | gazal | ok have the deb in the file just that it wouldnt copy when i tried for some reason |
| 21:21.45 | goibhniu | does that make sense? |
| 21:21.51 | goibhniu | brilliant |
| 21:21.55 | goibhniu | now the same trick |
| 21:21.58 | goibhniu | ctrl+x |
| 21:22.04 | goibhniu | y to save |
| 21:22.23 | gazal | ok done |
| 21:22.28 | goibhniu | and try apt-get update again |
| 21:22.34 | gazal | updating |
| 21:22.37 | goibhniu | super |
| 21:22.52 | gazal | ok done |
| 21:22.53 | goibhniu | apt-get install pptpconfig |
| 21:23.24 | goibhniu | it will complain about them not being authenticated |
| 21:23.30 | gazal | yes |
| 21:23.35 | gazal | allow? |
| 21:23.38 | goibhniu | let it install them anyway |
| 21:23.39 | goibhniu | yep |
| 21:24.07 | goibhniu | of course that's not a good idea in general ... but I think we're ok |
| 21:24.24 | gazal | ok ... because? |
| 21:24.48 | gazal | sorry ... we are ok in this case because? |
| 21:24.51 | gazal | .. |
| 21:25.26 | goibhniu | well, I've installed quite a few apps like that, it can be a bit tricky to set up the authentication stuff I believe |
| 21:25.45 | gazal | and all this happened in a blip so i will have to go back through what we have done to get a sense of what has happened |
| 21:25.51 | gazal | anyway thats a separate problem |
| 21:26.10 | gazal | :) |
| 21:26.39 | goibhniu | I trust them ... because they've got a nice website :) |
| 21:26.50 | goibhniu | ok ... now the rest should work |
| 21:27.17 | goibhniu | i.e. run pptpconfig and fill in your details |
| 21:28.27 | gazal | ok ... great .... many thanks goibhniu for a few steps around my new os :).... |
| 21:28.44 | goibhniu | gazal: you're very welcome :) |
| 21:28.47 | goibhniu | did it work? |
| 21:28.58 | gazal | will tell you in a min |
| 21:30.57 | gazal | actually more trouble ...Fatal error: php-gtk: Could not open display in /usr/bin/pptpconfig.php on line 31 |
| 21:32.05 | goibhniu | hmm ... these display errors are a bit odd |
| 21:32.13 | goibhniu | can you open a fresh terminal |
| 21:32.28 | gazal | sure |
| 21:33.10 | goibhniu | try running xclock from the new one |
| 21:33.24 | goibhniu | it should fire up a clock |
| 21:33.27 | gazal | yes |
| 21:33.30 | goibhniu | cool |
| 21:33.35 | gazal | a rather nice on |
| 21:33.36 | gazal | e |
| 21:33.42 | goibhniu | now log in as root there |
| 21:33.45 | goibhniu | sudo su - |
| 21:33.59 | goibhniu | and try xclock again |
| 21:35.08 | gazal | I cant do it ... im not getting my login id after xclock |
| 21:35.50 | goibhniu | sorry gazal, I'm afraid it's time to make dinner |
| 21:36.06 | gazal | cool ... carry on |
| 21:36.09 | goibhniu | maybe someone else will chip in |
| 21:36.20 | gazal | thanks |
| 21:36.44 | goibhniu | you're welcome ... if nobody is awake/sober, drop in again and we'll sort it out |
| 21:36.55 | gazal | :) |
| 21:37.13 | clive-h | Hmmm |
| 21:37.40 | clive-h | If you're running pptpconfig as root |
| 21:38.32 | clive-h | Then maybe you need to do 'xhost +' before you su to root |
| 21:38.40 | gazal | Fatal error: php-gtk: Could not open display in /usr/bin/pptpconfig.php on line 31 |
| 21:38.44 | gazal | this si the command i get |
| 21:38.50 | gazal | ok let me try |
| 21:39.54 | gazal | ok did xhost and logged onto root |
| 21:40.14 | clive-h | try pptpconfig then? |
| 21:40.23 | gazal | and did pptpconfig and same ersult |
| 21:40.31 | clive-h | hmm |
| 21:42.18 | goibhniu | oh ... I just thought .... how about just sudo pptpconfig |
| 21:42.33 | goibhniu | instead of logging in as root first |
| 21:43.05 | gazal | ok it works |
| 21:44.18 | clive-h | I don't know the specifics of debian/ubuntu |
| 21:45.07 | gazal | ok ... but it seems like its working clive ... let me just enter my details and before let out a shot of joy! |
| 21:45.23 | clive-h | heh |
| 21:45.29 | clive-h | good luck |
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| 21:53.14 | Ch0Hag | Bloody X crashed again. |
| 21:54.04 | Ch0Hag | Do we have a good graphics card yet with a clean stable driver? |
| 21:54.31 | clive-h | we? |
| 21:54.42 | Ch0Hag | Everyone, pretty much. |
| 21:54.55 | Ch0Hag | I'm hardly enamoured with the Windows drivers I've seen. |
| 21:55.10 | clive-h | Ahhh you mean doze |
| 21:55.17 | clive-h | I wouldn't know |
| 21:55.21 | Ch0Hag | Sorry. |
| 21:55.27 | Ch0Hag | I'm hardly enamoured with even the Windows drivers I've seen. |
| 21:56.01 | clive-h | I dislike the OS |
| 21:56.42 | Ch0Hag | Third time lucky? The Linux drivers are all crap and I'm hardly enamoured with even the Windows drivers I've seen. |
| 21:56.47 | Ch0Hag | :) |
| 21:57.05 | clive-h | blimey |
| 21:57.12 | clive-h | what card do you have? |
| 21:57.14 | Ch0Hag | ATI. |
| 21:57.19 | clive-h | Ahhh |
| 21:57.30 | Ch0Hag | I don't use Windows on this box - that part of the statement is a generalisation. |
| 21:57.38 | clive-h | I gather there are some issues |
| 21:57.44 | Ch0Hag | In fact come to think of it, I don't use Windows anywhere. |
| 21:58.07 | clive-h | My boxes run linux/solaris/OS X |
| 21:58.25 | clive-h | The nvidia/matrox/intel drivers work for me |
| 21:59.34 | Ch0Hag | blob or source? |
| 22:00.23 | clive-h | On Intel stuff , the stock xorg stuff |
| 22:00.41 | clive-h | On Nvidia regrettably the binary driver# |
| 22:01.08 | clive-h | matrox xorg again |
| 22:01.36 | clive-h | I must look at nouveau for the nvidia |
| 22:03.12 | Ch0Hag | I just use xorg. |
| 22:03.31 | Ch0Hag | It's bad enough with that. I don't know what this thing would be like with ATI's. |
| 22:03.53 | Ch0Hag | On the other hand - do you know how to recover a crashed VGA console? |
| 22:04.08 | clive-h | a crashed VGA console? |
| 22:04.15 | Ch0Hag | Where linux things vt7 is in use, lets you alt-f7 to it only to find that it's not there and the keyboard no longer works. |
| 22:04.39 | Ch0Hag | Then even when X is started from ssh you can't get back to a regular tty. |
| 22:04.45 | clive-h | hmm |
| 22:05.21 | clive-h | On my distro vt7 is the one that runs X |
| 22:05.42 | Ch0Hag | 'in use' == 'running X' |
| 22:05.52 | Ch0Hag | It thinks it's running X on vt7 but it's crashed. |
| 22:06.02 | Ch0Hag | Hmm too many its. |
| 22:06.13 | clive-h | pkill -9 gdm or whatever |
| 22:06.14 | Ch0Hag | Linux thinks it's running X on vt7 but X has crashed. |
| 22:06.21 | Ch0Hag | I don't use gdm. |
| 22:06.27 | Ch0Hag | Or any *dm. |
| 22:06.45 | clive-h | you use startx? |
| 22:08.54 | clive-h | On Redhat derived OSes *dm is respawned for /etc/inittab |
| 22:10.11 | Ch0Hag | startx |
| 22:10.25 | clive-h | pkill -9 startx |
| 22:10.46 | Ch0Hag | It would be Xorg |
| 22:10.50 | Ch0Hag | Anyway it's not running at the time. |
| 22:12.55 | clive-h | pkill -9 Xorg |
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| 22:13.58 | clive-h | I'd probably ctrl-alt-backspace and let gdm restart |
| 22:14.08 | Ch0Hag | Wow I think this might be a Lonix meet I can actually attend. |
| 22:14.14 | Ch0Hag | Shame it's in the arse-end of London. |
| 22:14.41 | clive-h | Out at park royal? |
| 22:14.43 | Ch0Hag | Da. |
| 22:15.08 | clive-h | That's not somewhere I'd want to be at night |
| 22:15.49 | Ch0Hag | That's just not somewhere I'd want to be. |
| 22:15.54 | Ch0Hag | It's in the afternoon though. |
| 22:16.10 | clive-h | Perhaps not so bad |
| 22:16.22 | clive-h | Though park royal is *grim* |
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