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05:10.06 | morsing | clive-h! |
05:10.09 | morsing | mylesbraithwaite! |
05:18.19 | clive-h | Morning |
05:37.32 | morsing | Anyone here use cPanel? |
05:37.36 | morsing | 'morning clive-h |
05:48.13 | morsing | Anyone here use cPanel? |
05:49.24 | morsing | ibot TwoSheds |
05:49.25 | ibot | methinks twosheds is the lucky owner of two sheds, or a character in a Monty Python sketch |
05:49.49 | morsing | ibot Carly |
05:54.03 | z00dax | hali: have 1 machine, which is being used to build stuff on - can always do with another where we can setup some test stuff |
05:54.11 | z00dax | morsing: check it! |
05:54.44 | z00dax | morsing: I've not used cPanel myself, but know lots of people in hosting companies who do - and they all hate it - even the service providers, its one massive security hole |
06:05.26 | morsing | z00dax: Thanks. Friend has been hassling me about installing it but I suppose that's a "no" then ;-) |
06:15.16 | morsing | z00dax: How's the weather? |
06:27.21 | morsing | ping wethrin |
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06:55.36 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
06:55.49 | morsing | Debian developers suck! |
06:56.38 | niv_one_three | took me 3 min to secure surfing from wrok by using my home pc as a proxy via ssh |
06:57.13 | niv_one_three | It took me a year and a half to do this :-( |
07:27.31 | z00dax | morsing: weather is awesome! |
07:27.48 | z00dax | is been between 20 - 27 Deg here since i got here, with the odd rain to keep things nice |
07:28.06 | z00dax | plus, being home with parents and sister and her family is soo cool! |
07:28.19 | hali | z00dax: i saw a sort of interesting ebay ad, 10 itanium server for something like £175 buy it now... but no disk, no ram |
07:51.27 | z00dax | hali: sounds a bit mad, know the specs |
07:51.29 | z00dax | ? |
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07:56.36 | hali | dell 3250's, i rememberd the price wrong... £1750 |
07:56.43 | hali | dual 1.4ghz |
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08:05.34 | morsing | AnneC! |
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08:06.43 | morsing | AnneC! |
08:06.55 | AnneC | morsing! |
08:07.03 | morsing | How do I get grub to overwrite the lilo mbr? |
08:07.25 | niv_one_three | morsing: run grub |
08:07.32 | niv_one_three | and tell it to install |
08:07.49 | niv_one_three | it will surly override th mbr |
08:08.21 | morsing | There's a command called grub-install? |
08:13.03 | morsing | niv_one_three? |
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08:22.26 | morsing | SlayerXP: How do I know if I'm using hotplug or udev? |
08:23.57 | SlayerXP | psa auxw | grep udev |
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08:24.45 | antiphase | It's a travesty when Google goes away on a Monday morning |
08:25.12 | jcookeman | antiphase: huh? |
08:25.20 | jcookeman | hali: you awake? |
08:25.52 | morsing | huw-l! |
08:26.07 | morsing | SlayerXP: Ok, I'm not. How do I know if I'm using devfs? |
08:26.52 | morsing | SlayerXP: If I reboot my system now, will it come up? |
08:27.13 | cpufreak | jcookeman: I think ant is referring to: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/bart.gif |
08:28.56 | morsing | HELP! |
08:29.31 | morsing | SlayerXP: I've upgraded the Debian kernel, run grub, run dist-upgrade |
08:29.35 | morsing | Will it work? |
08:32.36 | jcookeman | cpufreak: yeah I'm not awake yet |
08:32.46 | niv_one_three | hrw: no I suggest you run grub |
08:32.56 | niv_one_three | inside the grub prompt install it |
08:33.09 | niv_one_three | sorry ment morsing |
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09:05.20 | jcookeman | ibot: wake me up |
09:05.25 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on me up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
09:05.48 | hali | jcookeman: yo, awake |
09:06.11 | jcookeman | did you get that link I sent you about oracle licensing |
09:15.09 | Ch0Hag | Quick question: AIT or DLT? |
09:21.50 | SlayerXP | neither. hang yourself with a nice stout hemp rope instead. |
09:22.02 | jcookeman | Ch0Hag: dont you wish answers were that easy |
09:22.17 | SlayerXP | or perhaps you were asking for some other unspecified reason. |
09:30.33 | hali | Ch0Hag: LTO |
09:31.50 | antiphase | LTO 4tw |
09:34.49 | huw-l | when dealing with tapes there is not win there is only minimising the lose. |
09:35.00 | huw-l | s/not/no/ |
09:35.44 | hali | huw-l: what?! |
09:35.54 | hali | huw-l: tape is hundreds of times more reliable than disk |
09:36.18 | hali | i've never even seen a failed LTO tape |
09:36.31 | hali | we're not talking QIC-80 or DDS here |
09:37.55 | huw-l | I was merely suggesting that dealing with a tape infrastructure is always an unpleasant experience, I wasn't saying they were unreliable (although tape robots can find a milliion and one interesting ways to fail) |
09:39.47 | antiphase | It's irritating and slow, but somewhat peerless when it comes to storage capacity and portability |
09:42.28 | hali | i find lto pretty quick |
09:43.13 | hali | 80meg/sec (or even more these days i think) is faster than most disk arrays we have |
09:43.27 | hali | at least when we are talking nearstore arrays |
09:43.41 | hali | i just like tape, it's simple and easy |
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09:56.41 | jcookeman | hali: I sent you a link about the Oracle question I had. According to Oracle's licensing docs, ASM is mandatory in RAC SE. |
09:57.13 | cpufreak | just because you license it, doesnt mean you have to use it. |
09:57.39 | cpufreak | oracle's docs also suggest using ocfs2 |
09:57.53 | cpufreak | but thats about as much use as a chocolate johnnie |
10:02.15 | murb | hali: your raid arrays don't do 80meg a second? what are they? |
10:02.36 | murb | I found 2 cheapo 7.2krpm sata disks in a raid0 can easily push 100meg/sec |
10:03.01 | murb | (so we'll start needing faster than 1gb network interfaces... ) |
10:03.29 | cpufreak | it depends what you're doing with the data murb, innit |
10:03.34 | cpufreak | and what the data is. |
10:03.41 | cpufreak | anything can be fast in large sequential transfers |
10:03.45 | murb | yeah |
10:03.55 | murb | well i thoguht whey were talking about backups |
10:04.16 | cpufreak | oh right |
10:04.18 | cpufreak | I didnt' scroll up |
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10:08.06 | tripitaka | anyone here speak procmail? |
10:08.22 | tripitaka | join #procmail |
10:08.24 | tripitaka | oops |
10:11.15 | antiphase | Use Exim |
10:14.20 | tripitaka | not an option |
10:14.39 | cpufreak | it is an option. |
10:14.51 | cpufreak | whether its a viable option is another matter. |
10:14.58 | cpufreak | but you can't just say its not an option, when it clearly is an option. |
10:15.11 | cpufreak | and it probably is a viable one, if you stop and think about it. |
10:15.48 | antiphase | I think I'd write myself a perl script to do what I needed if procmail ever became required |
10:16.10 | antiphase | It is in the same league of creaky ancient nonsense as sendmail |
10:16.17 | cpufreak | eximfilter 4tw |
10:19.28 | murb | exim also does sieve nowdays. |
10:25.32 | jcookeman | cpufreak: oracle licensing states it is mandatory to use ASM on RAC SE for data files, etc |
10:26.14 | cpufreak | its a licensing limitation, not a technical one. Its just so they can charge you more. |
10:26.24 | jcookeman | Yes, I agree |
10:26.38 | jcookeman | It's never been a technical question |
10:26.44 | tripitaka | well, I can't replace sendmail as the MTA on this machine |
10:27.13 | tripitaka | procmail, .forward or perling the spool file.. |
10:27.26 | cpufreak | tripitaka: .forward to a box runnning exim. |
10:27.56 | cpufreak | jcookeman: they will support you in my experience even if you don't follow what their licences say to the letter. |
10:28.13 | cpufreak | only risk is sometimes they might want to charge more for the privilege of supporting you. |
10:28.15 | tripitaka | it's a server running sendmail with phone lines attached, I want to forward nagios mail subject lines to an SMS provider |
10:28.28 | jcookeman | cpufreak: thanks |
10:28.47 | cpufreak | tripitaka: so put exim on port 2525, and have your .forward, forward to that. |
10:28.49 | cpufreak | :D |
10:29.03 | cpufreak | or just have your .forward calla perl script to submit the smses |
10:29.15 | cpufreak | based on the subject. |
10:29.33 | tripitaka | hmm, I'll give .forward another go |
10:40.22 | jcookeman | anyone want to recommend an iscsi hba for RHEL/Netapp? |
10:40.37 | jcookeman | would like multipath |
10:40.46 | jcookeman | and copper |
10:51.49 | antiphase | Linux and iSCSI? Ha |
10:55.22 | jcookeman | why not? |
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11:05.46 | jcookeman | looks like multipath is a not so easy to get with hba |
11:12.05 | antiphase | Use Fibrechannel |
11:12.42 | antiphase | At least support for it is working andd stable |
11:12.54 | antiphase | I believe iSCSI support is good under Windows ;) |
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14:15.00 | jcookeman | hali: you around? |
14:15.21 | hali | jcookeman: yo |
14:16.01 | jcookeman | so, can you help me understand RAC a bit |
14:16.08 | jcookeman | I understand that we need shared storage. |
14:16.23 | jcookeman | If I'm using Netapp, obviously NFS is shared storage, but what are the complications with iSCSI? |
14:17.26 | hali | not much really |
14:17.53 | hali | asuming you use rhel4 it should be quite straight forward |
14:18.17 | hali | you'd need to setup ocfs2 for the ocr repo and voting disk, and something like ASM for the datafiles |
14:18.30 | hali | or you could use raw to avoid ocfs but thats a bit messy |
14:18.52 | jcookeman | why ocfs? |
14:19.01 | hali | you can't have ocr/voting on asm |
14:19.07 | hali | since asm is an oracle instance in itself |
14:19.09 | jcookeman | cant we just use db files on nfs |
14:19.17 | hali | you can |
14:19.36 | hali | i thought you wanted 100% iscsi, if you have the nfs license thats even better |
14:20.18 | jcookeman | yes we have NFS license |
14:20.35 | jcookeman | I only wanted iSCSI because we are bound to ASM by license. |
14:20.42 | jcookeman | but I think I've had enough |
14:21.01 | hali | i still think thats crap :) |
14:21.04 | jcookeman | it's a ridiculous setup |
14:21.05 | tripitaka | I ran into a problem with raw drives on iscsi - the vote and ocr devices would come up as random /dev/sd[?] devices, depending on the order in which they were discovered on boot |
14:21.19 | tripitaka | couldn't use e2label, as there's no filesystem |
14:21.21 | jcookeman | Dude, it's not crap. I read it for myself |
14:21.34 | hali | im not going to change anything here |
14:21.43 | tripitaka | But you can do something with udev to fix it |
14:21.58 | hali | tripitaka: or just put ocfs2 on them and label that |
14:22.26 | jcookeman | Is it crap? Yes it is. Only for the fact Oracle licensing is crap. |
14:22.29 | hali | but it is pretty annoying how the device naming works in linux |
14:22.36 | jcookeman | ibot: piss on oracle licensing |
14:22.37 | ibot | ACTION pisses on oracle licensing |
14:22.55 | hali | i think oracle licensing is pretty ok these days, except for that thing then |
14:23.06 | hali | if it is indeed true, i refuse to beleive it |
14:23.21 | tripitaka | haven't tried ocfs2. how is it to set up compared to gfs? |
14:24.18 | jcookeman | http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/options.htm#CJAHAGJE\ |
14:24.50 | jcookeman | get rid of that trailing \ |
14:25.16 | hali | tripitaka: it's much better, at least for oracle... mature and fast |
14:27.29 | jcookeman | Oracle Standard Edition and Oracle Real Application Clusters (Oracle RAC) |
14:27.29 | jcookeman | The license restrictions for Standard Edition must be adhered to. The maximum number of CPUs defined is for the entire cluster; it is not a per node maximum. |
14:27.29 | jcookeman | Oracle Clusterware is required; third-party clusterware is not permitted. |
14:27.29 | jcookeman | Automatic Storage Management (ASM) is required for the storage of: |
14:27.29 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
14:27.31 | tripitaka | hali: How about locking? Do you still need the three lockd nodes Oracle recommend? |
14:27.33 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
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14:27.55 | jcookeman | RAW disk partitions are required for: |
14:27.57 | tripitaka | more pls |
14:27.57 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
14:27.59 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
14:28.00 | antiphase | WTF |
14:28.03 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
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14:28.07 | hali | yes we can read on the link you pasted |
14:28.07 | jcookeman | Local storage must be used for: |
14:28.09 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
14:28.09 | antiphase | WTF |
14:28.11 | jcookeman | <PROTECTED> |
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14:28.21 | jcookeman | oops..didn't know it would follow crlf... |
14:28.47 | antiphase | That was a serious pasting infraction |
14:29.11 | jcookeman | oh Im sorry |
14:29.19 | jcookeman | didnt' know it would crash someone's computer |
14:29.41 | hali | jcookeman: what? no idea what you mean |
14:29.52 | dick_turpin | Yeah stop it my Pidgin flashed 30,000 times then I thought it was a nuclear attack |
14:29.54 | jcookeman | no I'm just being pedantic |
14:29.56 | jcookeman | that's all |
14:30.05 | hali | gulm nodes as in gfs? |
14:30.23 | hali | there are no separate lockd nodes in rac |
14:30.47 | hali | you have DLM on all nodes |
14:32.09 | hali | and lmon,lmd,lms etc |
14:33.14 | jcookeman | hali: we have an Oracle dba, but sometimes I dont believe him |
14:33.35 | hali | i usually think DBA's are weird and wrong most of the time |
14:33.36 | jcookeman | I'm just trying to figure out if we can use all these files over nfs without some volume manager |
14:33.47 | hali | the best 'dba' is a good sysadmin with oracle skills |
14:34.29 | jcookeman | hali: You're very right |
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14:34.48 | morsing | goibhniu! |
14:34.54 | morsing | ping SlayerXP |
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14:35.32 | morsing | clive-h! |
14:35.41 | clive-h | hi |
14:35.47 | dick_turpin | morsing: Wadda about me? |
14:36.10 | morsing | clive-h: After upgrading Debian to etch BIND won't accept recursive queries on 127.0.0.1 |
14:36.13 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
14:36.22 | morsing | dick_turpin: After upgrading Debian to etch BIND won't accept recursive queries on 127.0.0.1 |
14:36.24 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-* |
14:36.38 | morsing | AND WHAT ABOUT ME! |
14:36.44 | morsing | No-one greeted me :( |
14:36.56 | clive-h | I don't know anything about debian |
14:37.10 | morsing | GingerDog: After upgrading Debian to etch BIND won't accept recursive queries on 127.0.0.1 |
14:37.17 | morsing | sanelson: After upgrading Debian to etch BIND won't accept recursive queries on 127.0.0.1 |
14:37.32 | GingerDog | morsing: why do you think i can answer your problem? |
14:37.52 | clive-h | It's gonna depend on your named.conf |
14:37.55 | morsing | GingerDog: Because you're so smart and have helped me in the past |
14:37.57 | dick_turpin | morsing: I am now taking a large whip to my nether regions for failing to greet you |
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14:38.02 | morsing | clive-h: It hasn't changed |
14:38.15 | morsing | AnneC: After upgrading Debian to etch BIND won't accept recursive queries on 127.0.0.1 |
14:38.17 | GingerDog | morsing: man bind; read /usr/share/doc/bind ? etc ? |
14:38.32 | morsing | GingerDog: It's worked for years... Nothings changed |
14:38.44 | GingerDog | morsing: that kind of behaviour is very annoying (using peoples names in an attempt to get htem to answer your random question they probably know nothing about) |
14:38.48 | dick_turpin | GingerDog: Cos you are the all knowing sage oh wise one ;-) |
14:38.57 | morsing | GingerDog: I know :) |
14:39.10 | GingerDog | and saying "Nothings changed" is a lie, as you said you UPGRADED TO ETCH |
14:39.21 | clive-h | What do the logs say? |
14:39.23 | GingerDog | have you fucking googled it? |
14:39.23 | morsing | GingerDog: :) |
14:39.36 | morsing | GingerDog: I don't Google - I Leeds! |
14:40.32 | morsing | clive-h: Jul 23 15:38:03 emil named[12385]: denied recursion for query from [127.0.0.1].32920 for hades.eco.li IN |
14:42.17 | clive-h | Hmmm are the forwarders correct? |
14:44.07 | morsing | clive-h: Don't have forwarders |
14:45.26 | jcookeman | allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; }; |
14:47.55 | antiphase | People that don't Google can eat my ass |
14:49.37 | jcookeman | hali: that's nasty! |
14:49.42 | jcookeman | ibot spank hali |
14:49.42 | ibot | ACTION bends hali over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on hali's pasty white buttocks. |
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14:58.59 | morsing | AnneC! |
14:59.05 | morsing | Problem solved |
14:59.34 | dick_turpin | morsing: What you've eaten antiphase? |
15:01.12 | morsing | In the older versions of BIND (pre-8.4.7) the ACLs were defined in named.conf *after* named.conf.options were included. In this new version it didn't understand that when trying to use an ACL inside named.conf.options |
15:02.05 | morsing | Open source developers sucks! IBM would never do anything like that |
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15:03.34 | goibhniu | morsing! |
15:04.55 | morsing | goibhniu: People were being mean to me earlier :( |
15:05.40 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Don't hug him back with all the ass he's eaten he's bound to have wind! |
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15:05.58 | morsing | AnneC1 |
15:06.32 | morsing | goibhniu? |
15:09.43 | goibhniu | morsing: they don't mean to be mean, they just don't understand the level of support you're used to |
15:16.19 | jcookeman | morsing: I assume this isn't a production box? |
15:18.08 | morsing | jcookeman: It is sort of |
15:18.18 | morsing | jcookeman: Well, it is - why? |
15:18.33 | morsing | goibhniu: I've been spoilt be IBM :) |
15:18.44 | jcookeman | didn't you detect this anomaly before you upgraded a production box>? |
15:18.51 | jcookeman | on a test system? |
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15:20.08 | morsing | jcookeman: Let me explain... The Debian developers, without telling me, had repointed "main" to a new repository hence breaking my package system when I installed a package this morning. |
15:20.29 | morsing | The upgarde was definately an emergncy upgrade - not something I'd normally do |
15:20.33 | morsing | mylesbraithwaite! |
15:20.39 | jcookeman | so you run HEAD? |
15:20.43 | morsing | HEAD? |
15:20.52 | jcookeman | what is their MAIN branch? |
15:20.53 | morsing | No - TAIL |
15:21.16 | morsing | jcookeman: No - idea. Debian naming schemes suck |
15:21.36 | jcookeman | hmm |
15:21.38 | jcookeman | interesting |
15:21.56 | morsing | Is it? I just think it sucks |
15:22.30 | morsing | It wasn't what I was planning to do at 8am this morning over breakfast |
15:22.33 | jcookeman | I dont do the debian thing |
15:22.38 | jcookeman | so dont know |
15:23.00 | morsing | Good for you :) |
15:24.14 | morsing | Anyway... Most things seem to work, apart from Smokeping saying it can't find CGI::Carp |
15:25.58 | jcookeman | even though apt is probably the best package management tool in Linux |
15:26.22 | dick_turpin | pacman :-P |
15:27.47 | boudiccas | yum |
15:28.06 | clive-h | I like yum |
15:28.15 | boudiccas | yum is the bees knees |
15:30.21 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Did you know yum is now officially supported in openSUSE, thank god they dropped the bloody awful ZMD |
15:30.50 | boudiccas | i thought suse and its derivatvies used yast |
15:32.57 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yes its still there, they flirted with ZMD but it took 1/2 an hour plus for the synchronisation so its dropped but now they have given the ability to use Yum and I think apt as an alternative to Yast |
15:33.19 | boudiccas | ah, i see |
15:33.27 | boudiccas | its raining! |
15:34.05 | Leeds | but... I thought the UK was having an unusually dry summer? |
15:34.17 | clive-h | Dry? |
15:34.21 | AnneC | *fnar* |
15:34.22 | boudiccas | ha! |
15:34.30 | clive-h | There's massive flooding |
15:34.46 | jcookeman | yeah, it rained for 10 minutes and they call that flooding |
15:34.54 | AnneC | M4 blocked for hours last friday evening |
15:34.54 | clive-h | Tewkesbury is cut off |
15:35.06 | AnneC | Maidenhead town centre was a lake |
15:35.40 | antiphase | Hampton is cut off, you'll have to take the chopper </finbarr saunders> |
15:36.12 | dick_turpin | Dry here |
15:42.24 | Ch0Hag | Why does yum exist? |
15:50.19 | rhowe | To increase the number of Debian users |
15:50.38 | rhowe | Ah no, sorry, that's up2date |
15:51.05 | murb | rhowe: rh are moving to yum now. |
15:51.45 | rhowe | murb: heh, good. |
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16:14.25 | morsing | rhowe! |
16:16.09 | rhowe | hey henrik |
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18:45.36 | morsing | zachary! |
18:45.48 | morsing | rhowe: Have you booked a room yet? |
18:46.17 | rhowe | morsing: Probably gonna stay with my parents |
18:47.53 | zachary | Hey morsing, rhowe. Feeling the floods? |
18:48.09 | rhowe | zachary: Not really |
18:48.31 | morsing | zachary: Flood of stress caused by Postfix mail directories with incorrect permissions |
18:48.46 | morsing | rhowe: Can we stay with them as well? |
18:48.47 | zachary | The places they are showing look pretty bad. |
18:49.08 | rhowe | morsing: Mum says you can pitch a tent in the garden if you wish |
18:49.18 | rhowe | morsing: But it's a bit of a trek from Castleton - 20mins drive or so |
18:50.12 | zachary | I guess I should show some compassion and offer my spare room to anyone who needs it, but that's going to be quite a comute across the pond. |
18:50.55 | morsing | zachary: When can I visit?> |
18:51.04 | morsing | rhowe: Even in a red car? |
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18:51.16 | zachary | morsing: anytime! |
18:51.20 | morsing | rhowe: Can I pitch stuff from the fridge as well? |
18:51.33 | morsing | zachary: Really? |
18:51.37 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
18:51.47 | morsing | dick_turpin zachary zachary dick_turpin |
18:51.53 | morsing | Have you met? |
18:51.54 | dick_turpin | morsing: You still hungry? |
18:51.59 | morsing | dick_turpin: Always |
18:51.59 | rhowe | morsing: Don't see why not |
18:52.03 | morsing | rhowe: :) |
18:52.21 | morsing | rhowe: What are the perms on the postfix spool dirs supposed to be>? |
18:52.23 | rhowe | morsing: Near a river? |
18:52.26 | rhowe | morsing: nfi |
18:52.34 | morsing | rhowe: Behave |
18:53.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: |
18:54.58 | zachary | Anyone seen highbury lately? |
18:57.36 | morsing | zachary: highbury? |
18:57.52 | zachary | highbury = steve cobrin |
18:58.01 | morsing | He's rarely here |
18:58.10 | morsing | Cobrin - didn't know that |
18:58.15 | morsing | boudiccas! |
18:58.35 | zachary | starting an uprising? |
18:59.45 | zachary | bbl, need to get ready to take my daughter to ballet class. |
19:03.24 | morsing | ping SlayerXP |
19:03.27 | morsing | ping wethrin |
19:04.12 | dick_turpin | Ha looks like your stuck with me :-P |
19:15.08 | sanelson | ping wethrin |
19:15.31 | hali | ping pong |
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20:14.41 | morsing | sabinef72! |
20:14.53 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
20:36.29 | andrew__ | ping morsing |
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