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| 04:22.55 | morsing | bilarh: Coffee? |
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| 07:36.33 | niv_one_three | ibot: convert 0.01 euro to ISL |
| 07:55.34 | hali | ibot: convert led to gold |
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| 08:06.44 | z00dax | 'lo |
| 08:23.45 | hali | hm, google suck |
| 08:24.05 | hali | after i added their fucking adsense crud to a page i have the google search referrals has gone up with like 30% |
| 08:41.01 | jcookeman | dobroe utro druzya! |
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| 09:44.35 | mumper | morning each :) |
| 09:49.37 | mumper | Any wise words? I have an unexpected/unusual stop to e-mailing out (receiving still OK) with the message "Welcome response error - service not available. Closing transmission channel." Is this through something I've done? (PC running Debian 4). :( |
| 09:49.52 | wethrin | hello |
| 09:50.07 | wethrin | outbound firewalling? |
| 09:51.31 | mumper | Hi Wethrin - greetings and that. Er, I have Firestarter on PC and the built-in firewall on a Belkin router? |
| 09:52.17 | antiphase | I'd try a manual SMTP transaction |
| 09:53.11 | mumper | I tried to send myself a message with the same result ... |
| 09:55.09 | mumper | I recall trying to launch Ekiga yesterday, through a USB-type phone? In the end I "quitted". Any relevance? |
| 09:58.28 | mumper | I'm thinking of calling my ISP (Demon) and asking if it is them? |
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| 10:00.44 | wethrin | So maybe they still have a session open for you? |
| 10:02.31 | mumper | wethrin: does that mean are demon still talking to me - yes they are because messages are still coming in. Is that a valid answer? |
| 10:03.27 | wethrin | Not sure |
| 10:03.30 | mumper | wethrin: thinking on - meaning that a "still-open" session is blocking my outgoing? |
| 10:03.43 | wethrin | Oh. Sorry. I'm being confused. |
| 10:03.55 | wethrin | No, outgoing implies there's something else wrong |
| 10:05.02 | mumper | wethrin: thanks for sharing the confusion :-/ |
| 10:05.55 | wethrin | any time |
| 10:06.12 | wethrin | I'd do what antiphase recommended, though - try a manual SMTP transaction |
| 10:08.34 | mumper | wethrin: I knew this moment was coming - wassat? |
| 10:10.54 | wethrin | Use the good ol' SMTP protocol to communicate directly with your outgoing mailserver |
| 10:11.03 | wethrin | That'll give better information as to what's actually going wrong |
| 10:12.39 | mumper | wethrin: is that, er, em, in a terminal typing in a command to my service provider? |
| 10:12.44 | antiphase | Yes |
| 10:12.59 | antiphase | Basic diagnostics, everyone should be made to do it at least once a week |
| 10:13.51 | mumper | antiphase: this is the first time in my life - can i ask for a leedle bitty more explanation? |
| 10:14.00 | antiphase | Certainly |
| 10:14.13 | antiphase | telnet smtp.myisp.com smtp |
| 10:14.31 | antiphase | You should get a nice banner saying "220 myisp.com SMTP ready" or something like that |
| 10:15.02 | antiphase | Then you send yourself a mail step by step and see what happens |
| 10:15.08 | antiphase | HELO mycomputer |
| 10:15.15 | antiphase | (receive response) |
| 10:15.27 | antiphase | MAIL FROM: <me@mydomain.com> |
| 10:15.28 | antiphase | (receive response) |
| 10:15.40 | antiphase | RCPT TO: <me@somewhere-else.com> |
| 10:15.41 | antiphase | (receive response) |
| 10:15.45 | antiphase | DATA |
| 10:15.55 | antiphase | (receive 354 response) |
| 10:16.14 | antiphase | Type some shit in, followed by a . alone on a line and carriage return |
| 10:16.33 | antiphase | IF you get a 4xx or 5xx response at any time, you have failed |
| 10:17.23 | antiphase | Coming next week from antiphase's protocol academy, HTTP/1.1 for n00bs |
| 10:18.39 | mumper | I did. Got a read-out: "421 Too many concurrent smtp connections, please try again later" " connection closed by foreign host" |
| 10:19.01 | antiphase | There you go then |
| 10:19.19 | antiphase | Your ISP's mail server has reached its connection limit, so you get a 4xx (temporary) failure |
| 10:19.44 | antiphase | Or they could be greylisting |
| 10:19.49 | antiphase | Which would make them very gay |
| 10:20.09 | antiphase | Seems unlikely on an outbound relay though |
| 10:20.10 | wethrin | Unlikely if it's from within their network |
| 10:20.17 | antiphase | Snap :) |
| 10:20.43 | wethrin | So. Here's a paper that should be on everyone's reading list: |
| 10:20.48 | mumper | antiphase: with thanks for the advice on that - now, is a smackbum call to my service provider in order? |
| 10:20.50 | wethrin | "Evaluation of the Optimal Cooking Time of Rice by Using FT-NIR Spectroscopy and an Electronic Nose" |
| 10:21.22 | wethrin | mumper: No - they might just be getting a load of inbound spam |
| 10:22.23 | mumper | wethrin; so - do nowt until later - after tiffin, say? |
| 10:23.35 | wethrin | aye |
| 10:24.06 | mumper | wethrin; - and I'm sure i've seen that paper recommended in the Guardian ... |
| 10:24.21 | wethrin | Presumably by Marc Abrahams |
| 10:26.58 | mumper | I now, very regrettably, must go do something sensible. There's a hugely human feeling aboiut dealing with chappies who are technically savvy and irrevocably barmy. Really, you have helped me - and it's been fun, fun, fun. Laters ... |
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| 10:47.25 | dick_turpin | Anyone know how to reset the root password in mysql? I've made a right pigs ear of it. Trying to use this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html but I must be thick or something |
| 10:48.05 | wethrin | Yes. You need to stop the mysql daemon, and start it again, telling it to ignore the permissions database |
| 10:48.26 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I tried that 30 times and nothing happens |
| 10:48.53 | antiphase | --skip-grant-tables innit? |
| 10:48.58 | wethrin | something like that |
| 10:49.21 | antiphase | Then use the client to re-grant the root users permissions |
| 10:49.32 | antiphase | Or mysqladmin |
| 10:49.44 | antiphase | or DONT LOSE THE PASSWORD ;) |
| 10:50.16 | dick_turpin | antiphase: phpMyAdmin is where I got dangerous and *f%&@d* it up |
| 10:50.52 | dick_turpin | root has no permission to create or change anything |
| 10:51.24 | antiphase | Yes, so either start the daemon with --skip-grant-tables or put skip-grant-tables in the my.cnf [mysqld] section |
| 10:51.45 | antiphase | Then reset the root password |
| 10:51.59 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Ah now we are on to something. |
| 10:52.49 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Seeing as I've got myself in a paddy fit: I normally do /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 10:53.51 | dick_turpin | antiphase: I've follow the 'links' instructions, where the hell do I put the --skip-grant-tables option? |
| 10:54.16 | wethrin | Just run "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables" |
| 10:54.48 | dick_turpin | wethrin [root@spare ~]# nohup: ignoring input and redirecting stderr to stdout |
| 10:54.49 | dick_turpin | Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql |
| 10:54.49 | dick_turpin | STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid |
| 10:54.49 | dick_turpin | 070801 11:42:35 mysqld ended |
| 10:55.10 | jcookeman | any you guys bound init to a specific processor to leave another processor task specific> |
| 10:55.12 | jcookeman | ?? |
| 10:55.14 | wethrin | Just run "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables -u root" |
| 10:55.24 | wethrin | jcookeman: That's the job of the kernel |
| 10:55.30 | dick_turpin | wethrin: 1 sec |
| 10:55.39 | jcookeman | yes |
| 10:55.47 | jcookeman | but I mean to keep it from switching cores/cpus |
| 10:55.56 | jcookeman | fork() inherits affinity |
| 10:56.10 | jcookeman | so as the parent of all processes, I want init bound to one core |
| 10:56.17 | jcookeman | and use the second core for a specific purpose |
| 10:56.39 | wethrin | don't know if you can do that |
| 10:56.45 | jcookeman | the problem being right now OS processes are using both cores and causing me valuable context switches |
| 10:56.51 | jcookeman | wethrin: you can |
| 10:56.54 | jcookeman | just wondering if someone has |
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| 10:57.13 | wethrin | If you're that bothered about context switches, it sounds like you're not using the right OS for the job |
| 10:57.39 | wethrin | Get thee a single-tasking system! |
| 10:57.41 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I'm trapped! can type stuff but nothing happens |
| 10:57.48 | wethrin | Background it |
| 10:57.51 | wethrin | ^Z |
| 10:57.52 | wethrin | then |
| 10:57.52 | wethrin | bg |
| 10:57.58 | jcookeman | huh? |
| 10:58.15 | jcookeman | you know how expensive context switches are? |
| 10:58.18 | jcookeman | all OS's do it |
| 10:58.27 | wethrin | No they don't |
| 10:58.28 | wethrin | DOS doesn't |
| 10:58.40 | dick_turpin | wethrin: 1 sec I think I've stuffed it again |
| 10:59.15 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Doh ctrl Z |
| 10:59.16 | antiphase | jcookeman: Use Solaris ;) |
| 10:59.19 | jcookeman | I am using the right OS because I can bind init to one core and have one specific core available for my process |
| 10:59.24 | jcookeman | anti: I wish |
| 10:59.34 | jcookeman | It's easily possible to do this |
| 10:59.44 | jcookeman | just wondering if any you guys have done it and what your outcome was |
| 10:59.47 | jcookeman | if it was expected |
| 10:59.48 | antiphase | If you are losing too much time in context switching, get more CPU power. You don't get owt for nowt :) |
| 11:00.16 | wethrin | And run fewer processes :) |
| 11:00.18 | jcookeman | why get more cpu power when I have the latest |
| 11:00.44 | jcookeman | the fact is, I can easily bind a process to a cpu |
| 11:00.55 | tripitaka | jcookeman: how do you bind init to one core? </derail> |
| 11:00.56 | jcookeman | but os processes will inevitably swap that out |
| 11:01.07 | antiphase | Get more RAM then |
| 11:01.15 | jcookeman | RAM wont solve the problem |
| 11:01.23 | antiphase | Or get a better behaved application that isn't so picky |
| 11:01.23 | jcookeman | context switches are context switches |
| 11:01.25 | jcookeman | nothing to do with ram |
| 11:01.38 | jcookeman | it's not the app |
| 11:01.44 | jcookeman | it's the schedular |
| 11:01.54 | antiphase | Tried a different one? |
| 11:02.04 | wethrin | QNX FTW |
| 11:02.11 | jcookeman | WHY???? |
| 11:02.24 | jcookeman | I can easily set affinity on init |
| 11:02.38 | antiphase | I can honestly say I've never had to try anything crazy like that. Are you doing something very specialised? |
| 11:02.49 | jcookeman | anti: why is it crazy? |
| 11:06.13 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; is it working now? |
| 11:06.41 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Is it *B&%$£s* mutter mutter |
| 11:06.46 | antiphase | I'd regard overriding the OS behaviour as a little presumptious, especially if you don't have 64 cores to play with or something |
| 11:07.05 | jcookeman | It's not overriding it's behaviour |
| 11:07.07 | antiphase | Dedicating tasks to CPUs seems unnecessarily restrictive |
| 11:07.12 | jcookeman | it's just binding init to a specific core |
| 11:07.51 | jcookeman | and dedicating a huge Java process (that is not thread safe) to a core can prove very substantial in performance gains |
| 11:07.59 | jcookeman | because JVM context switches are awful expensive |
| 11:10.07 | antiphase | It still just sounds like you're short of resources. More tin is the coward's way out though, evidently ;) |
| 11:11.59 | jcookeman | antiphase: dont talk about that which you dont understand |
| 11:12.21 | antiphase | <--- bovvered |
| 11:12.39 | jcookeman | I asked a simple question, and since it is out of your realm, then kindly stay out of it rather than make snide comments. |
| 11:13.26 | antiphase | I suspect you have some sand in your vagina |
| 11:13.35 | jcookeman | No I think you do |
| 11:13.59 | jcookeman | I asked an easy question. you dont know the answer. So you hide your ignorance with shitty comments. |
| 11:14.06 | dick_turpin | wethrin: boudiccas: Ta Da Fank U vewy much, did it with a combination of the Link and suggestion here |
| 11:15.22 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; no need to thank me, i was just being interested in your plight |
| 11:16.11 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: And that's what I was thanking you for, You're overwhelming concern for my plight ;-) |
| 11:18.01 | dick_turpin | ibot: give antiphase an ice cream |
| 11:18.02 | ibot | ACTION gives an ice cream to antiphase |
| 11:19.49 | antiphase | \o/ |
| 11:20.24 | dick_turpin | ibot: give antiphase a flake for his ice cream |
| 11:20.25 | ibot | ACTION gives a flake for his ice cream to antiphase |
| 11:21.46 | dick_turpin | Gonna swap machines brb |
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| 11:23.13 | jcookeman | I'm sorry for my outburst at antiphase. Totally inappropriate. |
| 11:25.46 | antiphase | Chill Winston, you'll have to try a lot harder than that to offend me. I apologise for suggesting that you have crystalline silicates in your orifice ;) |
| 11:28.30 | wethrin | other than throw it at people |
| 11:28.54 | antiphase | Prop a dor open |
| 11:28.59 | boudiccas | wethrin; door stop? |
| 11:29.06 | wethrin | It's not really the right shape for that |
| 11:32.37 | boudiccas | make it the right shape with a hammer? |
| 11:32.40 | boudiccas | :) |
| 11:33.52 | wethrin | And an angle grinder! |
| 11:35.53 | boudiccas | i always thought they were called 'ankle grinders'? |
| 11:43.01 | niv_one_three | if two ppl look good - aint it a good enotgh reason they should have sex? |
| 11:43.58 | wethrin | err |
| 11:44.13 | boudiccas | niv_one_three; :)))))) |
| 11:44.58 | niv_one_three | I mean he is fit, she looks good (with no glasses) - need I pitch this idea? |
| 11:45.16 | wethrin | Is there an angle grinder involved? |
| 11:45.24 | niv_one_three | :-) |
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| 12:27.46 | dick_turpin | clive-h: :-) |
| 12:28.23 | clive-h | hi |
| 12:30.45 | dick_turpin | ibot: give clive-h an ice cream |
| 12:30.46 | ibot | ACTION gives an ice cream to clive-h |
| 12:30.49 | flips_and_rails | Does anyone know of a course on web security that runs somewhere London based? |
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| 13:43.12 | niv_one_three | hi annc |
| 13:43.21 | niv_one_three | ok some scripting advice - again: |
| 13:43.45 | niv_one_three | I seek to ping a device - then if it replaies do a task |
| 13:44.14 | niv_one_three | I do ping <name> |
| 13:44.52 | niv_one_three | I do: FLAG=`ping <name> |grep "connect" ` |
| 13:45.21 | niv_one_three | then if [ -z "$FLAG" ] ; then echo "boo" |
| 13:45.31 | niv_one_three | any better way to do it? |
| 13:47.03 | jcookeman | do the assignment and test in one |
| 13:47.04 | tripitaka | ping -c 1 www.google.com |grep bytes >/dev/null && echo yes |
| 13:47.14 | tripitaka | or similar |
| 13:49.17 | tripitaka | cleaner: (ping -W 3 -c 1 www.google1.com 2>/dev/null|grep bytes >/dev/null 2>&1) && echo yes |
| 13:54.55 | niv_one_three | thanks |
| 14:22.07 | wethrin | what about just look at the exit code? |
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| 14:22.43 | wethrin | Or not. It works on Solaris, not on GNU |
| 14:25.40 | antiphase | ping -c1 www.google.com >/dev/null 2>&1; if [ $? == 0 ]; then echo yes; fi |
| 14:26.24 | wethrin | surely: |
| 14:26.30 | wethrin | ping -c1 www.google.com && yes |
| 14:27.05 | antiphase | Golf 4tw |
| 14:27.33 | murb | fping++ |
| 14:27.45 | niv_one_three | what is fping ?? |
| 14:28.08 | wethrin | hm. Cygwin's ping doesn't do that |
| 14:28.22 | wethrin | Ah, but Linux is okay |
| 14:30.11 | niv_one_three | ok, so chicking the exit code is the better way? |
| 14:30.21 | niv_one_three | I want to learn to write good code .. |
| 14:30.35 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 14:33.12 | tripitaka | && is the equivalent to 'if the exit code is 0' |
| 14:33.51 | tripitaka | it means the same as 'if [ $? == 0 ]; then echo yes; fi' |
| 14:33.58 | tripitaka | the opposite is || |
| 14:37.13 | huw-l | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 14:37.28 | huw-l | advanced bash scripting - in case noone has mentioned it |
| 14:37.55 | mumper | wethrin: thought you'd like to know - tempus has fugited enough for my e-mail to go again so Demon is tickety-boo and GLLUG's luvverly :-D |
| 14:39.02 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 14:39.49 | mumper | Orft to dindins now - cheers! :) |
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| 16:01.52 | Leeds | you all suck |
| 16:02.15 | boudiccas | why, ty Leeds for that vote of confidence! :) |
| 16:02.41 | Leeds | it's been my birthday for over 2.5 minutes and no birthday wishes! |
| 16:03.02 | dick_turpin | Leeds: That's cos we all hate you :-P |
| 16:03.04 | antiphase | Fishing for birthday wishes is a bit sad ;) |
| 16:03.21 | Leeds | antiphase: oh, fuck off :-P |
| 16:03.21 | boudiccas | its not in the topic so how would i know otherwise? |
| 16:03.30 | boudiccas | + Happy Birthday :)))))) |
| 16:03.35 | cpufreak | ant++ |
| 16:03.37 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.54 | cpufreak | /topic no news. business as usual, get back to work you ugly scrotes. |
| 16:05.52 | rhowe | Leeds: Were you born in GMT+8? I think not :) |
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| 16:11.05 | murb | rhowe: should everyone quote their date of birth in UTC? which calandar should they use? |
| 16:11.55 | murb | parts of europe were using the julian until atleast 1918 |
| 16:13.35 | boudiccas | bloody thunder flies! |
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| 16:18.44 | rhowe | murb: Well, I'm just pointing out that it's not yet quite a round number of years since Leeds was born :) |
| 16:19.08 | murb | he isn't 0x20 yet? |
| 16:19.27 | murb | or 0x1E? |
| 16:31.57 | tripitaka | interesting: http://www.ams.org/featurecolumn/archive/time.html |
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| 17:02.51 | wethrin | Happy birthday for tomorrow, then, Leeds |
| 17:09.12 | Leeds | I'm pretty sure I used to be able to call the Virgin frequent flyer thing from here - the call isn't going through now :-( |
| 17:14.56 | Leeds | found another number... on hold now |
| 17:23.50 | Leeds | guess I'll be flying BA :-( |
| 17:25.46 | rhowe | Better than flying mimi airlines |
| 17:26.33 | Leeds | somehow don't think she'd be able to carry me |
| 17:26.54 | niv_one_three | could try ELAL.. |
| 17:26.58 | Leeds | anyway, that booking shall be dealt with on the morrow |
| 17:27.33 | Leeds | niv_one_three: don't think they have a HK->London flight |
| 17:27.34 | niv_one_three | connection in IL.. |
| 17:27.50 | Leeds | expensive |
| 17:28.23 | niv_one_three | safe |
| 17:28.41 | Leeds | direct flights are cathay, virgin, ba, qwantas, air new zealand and oasis |
| 17:28.56 | rhowe | Oasis not got anything cheap? :) |
| 17:29.06 | Leeds | rhowe: about the same as BA, and given the choice... |
| 17:30.18 | niv_one_three | how much is it hk->uk? |
| 17:31.06 | Leeds | return on BA or Oasis is about $8500 at the moment |
| 17:31.23 | niv_one_three | us$ ?? |
| 17:31.27 | niv_one_three | wow.. |
| 17:31.48 | Leeds | HK, of course |
| 17:32.29 | niv_one_three | ibot change 8500 hkd to usd |
| 17:32.48 | Leeds | has ibot's currency conversion been fixed yet? |
| 17:32.54 | Leeds | ibot 8500/7.8 |
| 17:32.54 | ibot | 1089.74358974359 |
| 17:33.07 | Leeds | the HKD is pegged to the USD :-) |
| 17:33.13 | niv_one_three | 1000$ :-( |
| 17:33.44 | Leeds | it is a 13-hour flight, at a relatively busy time of year, booked relatively late |
| 17:33.50 | niv_one_three | well at least it includes a meal.. |
| 17:34.23 | Leeds | anyway, really sleep time now |
| 17:34.39 | niv_one_three | happy birthday again leeds |
| 17:34.51 | Leeds | thanks :-) |
| 17:35.18 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:17.04 | morsing | goibhniu! |
| 19:17.07 | morsing | ! |
| 19:19.40 | morsing | goibhniu? |
| 19:25.29 | morsing | :( |
| 19:25.31 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 19:33.53 | kjalil | morsing: hey there! |
| 19:34.01 | kjalil | hello everyone |
| 19:34.13 | kjalil | looks quiet in here |
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| 19:44.31 | morsing | kjalil! |
| 19:44.35 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 19:44.44 | morsing | boudiccas: Semi-raw duck? |
| 19:53.08 | morsing | boudiccas? |
| 20:10.14 | kjalil | boudiccas: hi |
| 20:10.21 | kjalil | morsing: ? |
| 20:12.31 | morsing | G'night all |
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| 20:15.53 | goltor | dilemna, keep dragonfly or install free |
| 20:16.48 | dick_turpin | Dual boot? |
| 20:17.30 | goltor | problem i i don't have a specific purpose for the box |
| 20:18.47 | dick_turpin | Does anyone, really, other than messing about? |
| 20:19.02 | goltor | hehe |
| 20:20.32 | goltor | i'm new to *bsd so am thinking free may be better initially |
| 20:21.01 | goltor | even though i've been running dfly about a month |
| 20:21.46 | dick_turpin | Never used then the closet to the *Edge* I've evere got is this ArchLinux system |
| 20:21.52 | dick_turpin | them |
| 20:21.59 | dick_turpin | ever |
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| 20:35.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: :-) |
| 20:35.14 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: :( |
| 20:35.42 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Aaww whada mada? |
| 20:38.16 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: nvidia keeps puking on me today |
| 20:38.40 | goibhniu | 4 hard locks |
| 20:38.55 | goibhniu | also with all glx stuff disabled |
| 20:39.00 | clive-h | Running beryl? |
| 20:39.07 | goibhniu | yep .. but also without |
| 20:39.14 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its your own fault for not smearing the blood of a virgin chicken on it before booting |
| 20:40.04 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: it's increasingly difficult to find virgin chickens over here |
| 20:40.24 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I know I read about you in the papers |
| 20:40.45 | goibhniu | I kill them humanely |
| 20:41.17 | clive-h | are you mr matthews? |
| 20:41.17 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: What! with your bloody big chopper? |
| 20:42.47 | goibhniu | I chew on their heads until they stop wriggling |
| 20:44.00 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: That explains it, your at the wrong end, try wringing their necks (I know the mails are cockerals but it don't work as well) |
| 20:44.08 | dick_turpin | males |
| 20:44.50 | antiphase | nvidia drivers are great, I bet your RAM's wanked out |
| 20:45.27 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: My compiz-fusion is a lot better after the update |
| 20:48.02 | goibhniu | this is the second machine I've had this with ... a lot of people have this with nvidia |
| 20:48.11 | goibhniu | not as many as ati apparently |
| 20:48.32 | goibhniu | nvidia always say .. upgrade your bios and your kernel ... and then they run out of ideas |
| 20:48.53 | clive-h | I've not tried compiz-fusion yet |
| 20:49.05 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I agree with you although, touch wood, I've never had a problem |
| 20:49.27 | dick_turpin | clive-h: I was tricked into installing it by goibhniu |
| 20:49.30 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: count your lucky chickens |
| 20:50.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I've a clutch of virgin ones out back |
| 20:50.16 | goibhniu | it doesn't seem to be related to compiz/beryl ... this problem |
| 20:51.34 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Standard sysadmin response: "Its a user interface issue, the users an idiot" (Just kidding) |
| 21:05.53 | gw280 | ARSEBLANKETS |
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| 21:22.26 | goltor | o rly? |
| 21:23.08 | goibhniu | happy birthday Leeds! |
| 21:23.23 | murb | 'appy birthday liverpool |
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