| 00:23.46 | z00dax | right, SigSleep |
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| 08:49.38 | z00dax | photocopy ? |
| 08:55.37 | goibhniu | the man says "The contents of the directory stack are also visible as the value of the DIRSTACK shell variable." ... and yet echo $DIRSTACK only returns the pwd |
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| 10:16.11 | goibhniu | nvidia .. I hate you! I hate you! I hate you! |
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| 11:50.16 | niv_one_three | Hi, I want to run a script to do the iptables chors for NAT and QoS |
| 11:50.41 | niv_one_three | I think to seperate the two and have the NAT script call the QoS script |
| 11:50.48 | niv_one_three | is this a good idea? |
| 11:51.17 | antiphase | Why are you asking? |
| 11:51.31 | antiphase | It sounds like a non-existent problem |
| 12:03.55 | niv_one_three | I got a made NAT script |
| 12:04.01 | niv_one_three | got a made QoS |
| 12:04.24 | niv_one_three | I may only add a line in the NAT script to have it all |
| 12:04.45 | niv_one_three | (thanks anti for your response, how is it hanging?) |
| 13:04.21 | niv_one_three | what podcast application to use? |
| 13:05.56 | antiphase | Apache |
| 13:07.42 | niv_one_three | anti: I ment what client? |
| 13:07.50 | antiphase | wget |
| 13:07.59 | niv_one_three | oh |
| 13:08.07 | antiphase | A podcast is just an mp3, it isn't intended to be streaming |
| 13:08.17 | niv_one_three | ok |
| 13:08.40 | niv_one_three | ok, I know what to know how to do this: |
| 13:08.43 | antiphase | Although there's no reason you can't "stream" mp3s by limiting the bandwidth |
| 13:09.21 | niv_one_three | I want FIG1 to have a file name generated by find |
| 13:10.09 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: I'm in the market for one too, I'd like an ncurses or web interface |
| 13:10.19 | goibhniu | although an opml file will probably have to do |
| 13:10.46 | niv_one_three | in the sense of $ find /path/ -name "$PICTURE_PREF" -> FIG1 |
| 13:11.19 | antiphase | What's that in English? |
| 13:11.23 | niv_one_three | I figure i should FIG1 = ` find /path/ -name "$PICTURE_PREF" ` |
| 13:11.24 | niv_one_three | right? |
| 13:11.57 | niv_one_three | I then mutt -a $FIG1 me@address.com |
| 13:12.13 | antiphase | It sounds fundamentally crack-fuelled |
| 13:12.45 | niv_one_three | good, teach how to write good code pls. what should it be then? |
| 13:12.54 | antiphase | If you're just assigning to a varialb it's nicer to use FOO=$(command) |
| 13:13.02 | niv_one_three | I am also thinking now ofa for loop |
| 13:13.18 | niv_one_three | may I do that ? oh |
| 13:13.19 | niv_one_three | ok |
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| 15:40.47 | Leeds | hmm... argh |
| 15:43.11 | gw280 | hi Leeds |
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| 15:46.06 | Leeds | evening gw280 |
| 15:49.00 | gw280 | ello |
| 15:51.07 | Leeds | still at Xen? |
| 15:54.47 | gw280 | Leeds: xen? |
| 15:55.05 | Leeds | ah... |
| 15:55.10 | Leeds | you're not greg, are you? |
| 15:55.25 | gw280 | no, I'm not |
| 15:56.15 | Leeds | gregj: still at Xen? |
| 15:59.11 | z00dax | Leeds: hey, howse HK ? |
| 15:59.19 | Leeds | z00dax: wet! |
| 15:59.35 | z00dax | ah right, not much unlike london this evening then |
| 15:59.52 | Leeds | they withdrew the longest sustained hot weather warning for decades - possibly as far as records go - today, and immediately replaced it with a thunderstorm warning |
| 16:00.09 | z00dax | nice :) |
| 16:00.18 | z00dax | ok, i am off to tunbridge. be back later |
| 16:00.33 | Leeds | saw a couple of nice forks this afternoon from the office |
| 16:00.35 | Leeds | have fun |
| 16:03.59 | wethrin | what-ho! |
| 16:05.37 | Leeds | women... can't live with them, can't say "hey, I'm sick of being single, you're cute and intelligent and seem to vaguely like me, so how about it?" |
| 16:06.04 | wethrin | You could, if you don't mind never talking to them again |
| 16:06.25 | Leeds | that's my point |
| 16:07.00 | Leeds | I have to admit, I don't often get told to eat more, because it'll make me happy |
| 16:08.31 | antiphase | Do you get told to eat less? |
| 16:09.06 | Leeds | I get told to lose weight |
| 16:10.02 | Leeds | quite rightly, of course - doesn't mean I like being told |
| 16:11.40 | boudiccas | Leeds; why should you lose weight? your in shape! round is a shape! |
| 16:12.05 | antiphase | Chicks don't dig fat dudes, too cold and clammy |
| 16:12.26 | boudiccas | i go for a persons personality rather than what they look like |
| 16:13.16 | wethrin | So you'll start talking to a really ugly bastard just in case they have a good personality? |
| 16:13.42 | boudiccas | personalit comes before looks in my book i should've said |
| 16:13.50 | boudiccas | *personality |
| 16:14.23 | Ch0Hag | Looks come first. |
| 16:14.39 | gregj | Leeds: nope, got sacked |
| 16:14.40 | Ch0Hag | You can spot looks on the other side of the room. You have to get closer (if you can stomach it) to discern personality. |
| 16:14.45 | Leeds | gregj: nice |
| 16:14.53 | wethrin | gregj: Well done. |
| 16:14.54 | gregj | Leeds: "you don't pay enough attention to details" they said |
| 16:15.00 | gregj | I say "a mess managment" |
| 16:15.06 | Leeds | boudiccas: it's a good theory, but - nothing personal - I don't believe you |
| 16:15.06 | wethrin | So you're jobhunting again? |
| 16:15.09 | gregj | or rather 'lack of managment' |
| 16:15.17 | gregj | yez I am |
| 16:15.26 | gregj | and it is going rather well |
| 16:15.32 | wethrin | Oh? |
| 16:15.38 | gregj | they still pay me til 10th, so I have paid job hount |
| 16:15.41 | wethrin | I was going to say 'good luck', but you don't seem to need it :) |
| 16:15.43 | wethrin | ah |
| 16:15.47 | wethrin | any leads so far? |
| 16:16.04 | gregj | 3-4 agents saying they are waiting for interview date from client |
| 16:16.23 | Ch0Hag | What's the possibility of that being true. |
| 16:16.24 | Ch0Hag | ? |
| 16:16.25 | gregj | 1 agent saying, that I might get back the proposal I refusefd, while working for Xen |
| 16:16.32 | wethrin | cool |
| 16:16.43 | wethrin | So, will you come to the GBBF? |
| 16:17.21 | gregj | basicaly I had some sucking company in London, and Visa asking me to work for them, for not very high salary (32k) (for the work that they require, and skills), and I refused, saying that I like xen |
| 16:17.28 | gregj | still like them, but , well, they don't love me |
| 16:17.39 | gregj | I am just a sucking and stuppid Pole, what can I expect |
| 16:17.45 | gregj | wethrin: and was ist das ? |
| 16:18.02 | wethrin | Beer Festival! |
| 16:18.18 | wethrin | Hmm. Talk to morsing about working at Visa |
| 16:18.22 | gregj | I rather attend Whiskey or ~beer festival :) |
| 16:18.38 | wethrin | whisky, eh? |
| 16:18.48 | gregj | the guy who interviewd me at visa, sucked, I didn't like him, and knowing that I would have to work with him - I said no |
| 16:19.00 | wethrin | http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/category.asp?cat_id=S_WHFR&lkid=10&cid=TRSJHQA3AO8WYCY5EX6DZC9PS7NFTFPP |
| 16:19.10 | gregj | basicaly, they have C++ software they wrote running on solaris |
| 16:19.29 | gregj | they over-using exceptions, this bloke looked ot me like someone that come from Java world |
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| 16:19.47 | gregj | so I tell him, "write shorter functions, use more ifs, instead of exceptions, it will be much faster" |
| 16:19.57 | gregj | and he says - "exceptions are not fast?" |
| 16:20.03 | gregj | he couldn't belive.. |
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| 16:20.19 | wethrin | yay for people who don't know the basics of code generation |
| 16:20.22 | gregj | and I can't belive they required someone with assembler knowledge, to tell him how exceptions on C/C++ suc |
| 16:20.27 | gregj | exactly |
| 16:20.33 | gregj | so, fuck visa |
| 16:20.36 | gregj | the guy sux |
| 16:21.06 | gregj | he also couldn't belive, thta I use C++, and I don't go around virtual destructors much, becuase I tent not to subclass like crazy |
| 16:21.23 | wethrin | :) |
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| 16:21.44 | gregj | I bet their code could be slashed in size twice, and speed up at least that, but screw them, I won't repeat known facts and try to prove them, if someone is an idiot |
| 16:21.57 | Leeds | hah... talk about the weather turning... Sunday, the HK (met office) recorded under 10mm of rainfall... Monday, they recorded just over 100mm |
| 16:22.04 | wethrin | nice |
| 16:22.08 | wethrin | You're getting our floods |
| 16:22.08 | gregj | and is interviewing me, with attitude "hey dude, I am here, you there, so u must suck" |
| 16:22.21 | gregj | Leeds: :> |
| 16:22.35 | gregj | wethrin: and how you do, how's uni |
| 16:22.50 | wethrin | It's going okay at the moment |
| 16:22.57 | wethrin | Getting some useful information |
| 16:23.04 | gregj | I am missing london times, to be honest, this weekend I felt so lonley in this bloody Cambridge, nothing going on here, no ppl I know (almost), etc |
| 16:23.29 | Leeds | gregj: you could always hop on a train... |
| 16:23.49 | wethrin | So no beer festival, then? |
| 16:23.51 | gregj | Leeds: it was very nice in Cambridge this weekend, I was +30 or so, I was dying here from overheat |
| 16:24.06 | gregj | well, I'm broke atm, waiting for last pay check from Xen |
| 16:24.25 | wethrin | gregj: Because Krakow is so much colder at this time of year? |
| 16:25.24 | Leeds | gregj: 30+ here too - I was on the beach, then in aircon :-) |
| 16:25.59 | gregj | Leeds: how you doing healthwise, I remember you had ome problems here, but you never said how is it now |
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| 16:26.07 | gregj | wethrin: Krakow is 750 old now |
| 16:26.08 | gregj | :) |
| 16:26.20 | wethrin | Gdansk is older :-P |
| 16:26.24 | gregj | :P |
| 16:26.31 | wethrin | silly young upstart city |
| 16:26.41 | gregj | gniezno is older |
| 16:26.52 | gregj | in fact, oldest in .pl I belive |
| 16:26.54 | Leeds | Jerusalem is about 3000 years old... HK is barely 160 |
| 16:27.08 | gregj | it is a town where poland was 'born' |
| 16:27.17 | Leeds | gregj: not too bad... could still do with losing a lot of weight, but otherwise, things are pretty stable |
| 16:27.48 | gregj | yeah, loosing weight, same in this department |
| 16:28.13 | gregj | I am 94kgs now, about 10 less than last time you saw me in London, but still pretty too much |
| 16:28.50 | Leeds | I'm... a lot more than that |
| 16:28.53 | gregj | it must be nice to be able to go to beach, just like that |
| 16:29.04 | gregj | that was the reson I liked Vancouver |
| 16:29.31 | gregj | 10 mins away from home - beatch, 2h on public trans away, high mountains |
| 16:29.43 | gregj | beach |
| 16:29.43 | Leeds | it's very nice - I've been a few times this summer, but it looks like the weather has broken now, at least for a week or two |
| 16:29.44 | gregj | damn |
| 16:30.09 | Leeds | the nearest beach to here is about 45 minutes in a bus or 20 (and about a fiver) in a cab |
| 16:30.14 | gregj | and I have no idea why: if (substr($dupa, 0,1) != ".") { |
| 16:30.17 | gregj | is always false |
| 16:30.42 | wethrin | it's not treating it like a regexp? |
| 16:31.06 | gregj | I just want to know if first letter/character of $dupa is a dot or not |
| 16:31.10 | gregj | I tried $dupa[0] |
| 16:31.13 | gregj | and it didn't worked |
| 16:31.18 | gregj | I have no faintest idea what's wrong |
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| 16:34.34 | gregj | shit, I don't konw - time for cookie and water |
| 16:34.35 | gregj | ;] |
| 16:34.59 | gw280 | gregj: my college is older than Krakow |
| 16:35.16 | gw280 | oh wait |
| 16:35.18 | gw280 | no it's not |
| 16:35.20 | gw280 | but the university is |
| 16:35.22 | wethrin | no, it wouldn't be |
| 16:35.31 | wethrin | Err. Is it? |
| 16:35.32 | gw280 | wethrin: corpus is 1352 :( |
| 16:35.37 | gw280 | wethrin: yeah, cambridge is 1209 |
| 16:36.18 | wethrin | Upstart. |
| 16:36.27 | gw280 | wethrin: better than hoxford |
| 16:36.31 | gregj | gw280: fukitol |
| 16:36.37 | gw280 | gregj: ? |
| 16:36.40 | gregj | :P |
| 16:36.50 | gregj | well, who cares how old the college is :P |
| 16:36.58 | gw280 | SOME OF US |
| 16:37.45 | gregj | I was just saying, because obviously wethrin noticed, that Krakow had 'round' anniversary |
| 16:37.56 | gw280 | heh |
| 16:37.57 | gw280 | :) |
| 16:38.09 | Leeds | anyway, what I really want is answers to two simple questions: "are you single?" and "do you see any chance of you and me - is there any point my attempting to blunder towards something?" |
| 16:38.11 | gregj | no more cookies, time to cycle to tesco.. |
| 16:38.32 | gregj | Leeds: yyyy |
| 16:38.40 | wethrin | Facebook! |
| 16:38.48 | Leeds | instead I have signed off for the night with a corny double entendre which she probably completely missed anyway, being a non-native English speaker |
| 16:38.52 | Leeds | wethrin: she's not on it :-( |
| 16:39.08 | wethrin | Make her join! |
| 16:39.12 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:39.17 | Leeds | maybe |
| 16:39.31 | gregj | Leeds: she probably at least finds it amusing, that you speak so fluently |
| 16:39.46 | wethrin | okay. I think it's time I head off homewards |
| 16:40.10 | Leeds | in the meantime, I'm hoping that I've been unsubtle enough in the flirting, and seen no suggestion from her of any sign of non-singleness |
| 16:40.30 | Leeds | gregj: I quote: "u r good at talking" :-) |
| 16:40.41 | gregj | fof |
| 16:40.52 | Leeds | fof? |
| 16:41.01 | gregj | light version of wow |
| 16:41.24 | gregj | seems nobody understands me anyway |
| 16:41.31 | Leeds | never heard that before |
| 16:41.39 | Leeds | that comment was followed by "u r sweet" |
| 16:42.54 | Leeds | oh well, thinking too much, reading too much into probably meaningless phrases, as usual |
| 16:43.27 | gregj | after that I would just say, "listein, sorry, I completly forgot, blah blah, I gotta go, call me later" |
| 16:44.00 | Leeds | I said thanks, and then the double entendre |
| 16:44.55 | Leeds | and now it is bed time... g'night folks |
| 16:45.34 | Leeds | oh, incidentally... I need to send something out to the social list, and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing, but I expect to be in London for the day and night, at least, of 28/8 |
| 16:46.05 | gregj | cool |
| 16:46.22 | gregj | let us know 2-3 days ahead, cos I have on faintest idea what I will be doing than |
| 16:46.22 | gregj | :/ |
| 16:46.34 | Ch0Hag | Does GLLUG cater for non-geeky other-halves? |
| 16:46.38 | gregj | I know 17th is my birthday, and I'll probably drink some cheap wine at home talking to my computers |
| 16:47.13 | gregj | abouyt the perl problem |
| 16:47.14 | wethrin | Ch0Hag: The venue is about 10 minutes walk from Oxford Street |
| 16:47.18 | gregj | I should use ne instead of != |
| 16:47.30 | gregj | wethrin: you are in london ? |
| 16:47.35 | wethrin | No. Durahm. |
| 16:47.45 | antiphase | != is a numerical comparison operator |
| 16:47.59 | wethrin | Leeds: No chance you'll be around London on the 27th? |
| 16:48.19 | Ch0Hag | Which venue? |
| 16:48.23 | gregj | antiphase: right, why didn't you said so before than |
| 16:48.28 | wethrin | Ch0Hag: W'min.ac.uk |
| 16:48.30 | antiphase | You didn't ask ;) |
| 16:48.37 | gregj | I did |
| 16:48.40 | gregj | here |
| 16:49.15 | gregj | I cn't help you with that I'm affraid :P |
| 16:49.18 | antiphase | Use a regex |
| 16:49.28 | antiphase | $dupa =~ /^\./ |
| 16:49.39 | antiphase | It's not PHP you know ;) |
| 16:49.42 | wethrin | mmm....line noise |
| 16:50.00 | gregj | PHP sux |
| 16:53.17 | gregj | antiphase: okay than another question, how can I test if the filename is a name of file, or directory |
| 16:53.36 | antiphase | File test operators |
| 16:53.36 | gregj | I need to insert only filenames of files, nothing else into array |
| 16:53.56 | antiphase | if ( -f $filename ){ foo; } |
| 16:54.24 | gregj | ok |
| 16:54.27 | antiphase | Or in a loop, next unless -f $filename; |
| 16:55.10 | Leeds | wethrin: no |
| 16:55.43 | wethrin | bum |
| 16:55.46 | Leeds | given that I'll be arriving on the morning of the 29th and won't actually be around on the 28th either, having failed to read my calendar :-) |
| 16:55.52 | wethrin | I return to Durham that day |
| 16:55.53 | wethrin | :) |
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| 17:03.46 | wethrin | AnneC! |
| 17:05.52 | Leeds | she's not sticking around today |
| 17:06.43 | wethrin | no |
| 17:08.53 | gregj | okay, script finished |
| 17:08.54 | gregj | :) |
| 17:09.06 | gregj | I haven't wrote a perl script in ages, thsi was a struggle |
| 17:12.07 | gregj | better than rm -rf if you ask me :) |
| 17:43.09 | Ch0Hag | Can I have a network device (eg. a tun) which cannot be used be applications outside a chroot? |
| 17:43.17 | Ch0Hag | ie. binding to 0.0.0.0 won't include that address. |
| 18:11.33 | antiphase | Nope |
| 18:12.08 | antiphase | A chroot is just a fake root, the hardware all still belongs to a single kernel |
| 18:12.45 | antiphase | There might be some equivalent ot a BSD jail which allows you to bind a single address to a chrooted-style environment |
| 18:13.42 | antiphase | I don't know if sandbox extends to anything beyond filesystems |
| 18:19.27 | Ch0Hag | Well it's not that important. |
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| 18:34.42 | Ch0Hag | Does mysql have ident authentication like postgres? |
| 18:36.18 | antiphase | Sounds risky :) |
| 18:36.48 | antiphase | I've never seen it used without in-band authentication |
| 18:37.11 | Ch0Hag | Everything about what I'm doing is risky. |
| 18:37.17 | Ch0Hag | Or crap, depending on your point of view. |
| 18:37.27 | Ch0Hag | Employers want it, though, and I want money. |
| 18:39.23 | Ch0Hag | And what they want involves root getting information out of a database and I don't fancy having files lying around with passwords in them. |
| 18:39.52 | Ch0Hag | Not least because the password may change and I don't want to have to be chasing up files lying around the fs. |
| 18:40.10 | Ch0Hag | Well - I don't want to write scripts to do so. This junk is entirely automated junk. |
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| 18:42.28 | antiphase | Set up another user that has only the required access to the database then. If the script runs as root you can set it mode 0500 so no-one can read the password |
| 19:16.35 | Ch0Hag | Bah why do people insist on changing things they don't need to change. |
| 19:17.03 | Ch0Hag | The entire world uses ip.add.re.ss/mask, bit slapd decides it needs to use ip.add.re.ss%mask |
| 19:17.16 | Ch0Hag | And puts the port in {} instead of after a :. |
| 19:17.27 | Ch0Hag | Even *Microsoft* haven't embraced and extended that. |
| 19:18.05 | rhowe | haha |
| 19:18.29 | rhowe | Well LDAP's in a whole world of ASN.1 pain anyway, what's a little bit of CIDR bastardisation? :) |
| 19:18.47 | wethrin | rhowe! |
| 19:18.52 | rhowe | hey Dan |
| 19:18.56 | rhowe | wethrin: When's this hiking weekend? |
| 19:19.04 | wethrin | This coming weekend |
| 19:19.11 | rhowe | ahh |
| 19:19.18 | rhowe | That's why I booked early shift at work then on Friday :P |
| 19:19.24 | rhowe | I'd better book my train tickets I guess |
| 19:19.38 | wethrin | Or get a lift |
| 19:19.50 | rhowe | ah yes |
| 19:19.55 | rhowe | well, train tickets to the car |
| 19:20.15 | wethrin | if you're able to come up to Beaconsfield, morsing should pick us up |
| 19:20.26 | wethrin | There's no advance purchase tickets |
| 19:20.40 | rhowe | ah, OK |
| 19:20.54 | wethrin | It's only half an hour out from Marylebone |
| 19:21.16 | rhowe | *nod* |
| 19:21.18 | rhowe | Done it before |
| 19:21.23 | rhowe | Well let's see |
| 19:21.29 | rhowe | I can leave the office at 4, notionally |
| 19:21.48 | rhowe | Aldgate tube -> circle line -> marlebone? |
| 19:21.52 | rhowe | Or does it just go to Baker St? |
| 19:21.54 | wethrin | Circle? Haha |
| 19:21.59 | wethrin | Yeah, to Baker St. |
| 19:22.14 | wethrin | So Circle of Metropolitan to Baker ST. |
| 19:22.22 | wethrin | And then it's about 5 minutes walk |
| 19:22.23 | rhowe | yep |
| 19:22.25 | wethrin | (3 if you're quick) |
| 19:22.39 | rhowe | OK so I can easily be there for 5:30, probably earlier |
| 19:22.44 | rhowe | How does that fit in? |
| 19:22.48 | wethrin | fine |
| 19:22.54 | wethrin | ping morsing |
| 19:24.43 | rhowe | wethrin: Hmm |
| 19:24.50 | rhowe | for the weekend |
| 19:25.19 | wethrin | You're one of those Canon fanboys, aren't you? |
| 19:25.34 | rhowe | I have a Canon camera, yes :) |
| 19:25.48 | wethrin | fah :-P |
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| 19:32.41 | rhowe | hmmmm |
| 19:32.53 | rhowe | A friend from Canada is looking for somewhere to stay in London this weekend |
| 19:33.03 | rhowe | Very reasonable rates |
| 19:33.27 | boudiccas | the rates might be reasonable but what about the rent? |
| 19:34.06 | rhowe | heh |
| 19:34.16 | rhowe | If he's lucky, I might combine it all into one lump sum |
| 19:34.21 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 19:34.28 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 19:34.35 | boudiccas | morsing! |
| 19:34.36 | rhowe | morsing: You weren't even here! |
| 19:34.46 | morsing | rhowe: :) |
| 19:34.49 | rhowe | morsing: So, what time should I aim to be at Beaconsfield this Friday? |
| 19:35.01 | morsing | rhowe: You meeting us there? |
| 19:35.09 | morsing | rhowe: I'll drive past at 5pm |
| 19:35.10 | rhowe | morsing: Might as well - easiest option, no? |
| 19:35.16 | rhowe | morsing: Hmm |
| 19:35.19 | morsing | Hmm...? |
| 19:35.21 | rhowe | morsing: Well I finish work at 4 |
| 19:35.32 | morsing | So do I |
| 19:35.35 | rhowe | morsing: 5pm is a bit tight, but 5:15 or 5:20 would be doable |
| 19:35.37 | antiphase | Slackers |
| 19:35.44 | morsing | wethrin's parents will make me some coffee |
| 19:35.50 | rhowe | morsing: Either that or I could meet you somewhere else. What route are you taking? |
| 19:35.58 | morsing | rhowe: North |
| 19:36.04 | morsing | No - Beaconsfield is fine |
| 19:36.06 | rhowe | morsing: Good :P |
| 19:36.13 | morsing | I'll cuddly Toby for a while |
| 19:36.16 | rhowe | morsing: Oh, OK. I'll get there as quick as I can |
| 19:36.17 | morsing | Cuddle |
| 19:36.31 | rhowe | heh |
| 19:36.35 | rhowe | new verbs by morsing |
| 19:36.37 | rhowe | to cuddly |
| 19:36.42 | morsing | Toby++ |
| 19:36.45 | morsing | ibot Toby |
| 19:36.46 | ibot | Improved version of LOGO programming langauge.. URL: http://www.xnot.com/toby/ |
| 19:36.56 | rhowe | haha |
| 19:37.01 | morsing | ibot Toby is also the master of all dogs |
| 19:37.02 | ibot | morsing: okay |
| 19:37.02 | rhowe | geeks-- |
| 19:37.14 | morsing | ibot Toby is also much better than Porchia |
| 19:37.14 | ibot | okay, morsing |
| 19:37.20 | morsing | ibot Toby |
| 19:37.20 | ibot | Improved version of LOGO programming langauge.. URL: http://www.xnot.com/toby/, or the master of all dogs, or much better than Porchia |
| 19:41.13 | rhowe | Which London train station(s) has/have trains to Cambridge? |
| 19:41.18 | rhowe | Kings Cross? |
| 19:41.38 | boudiccas | liverpool street? |
| 19:41.59 | wethrin | Kings X |
| 19:42.01 | wethrin | and Liverpool St. |
| 19:42.11 | wethrin | KX involves using Firstgroup trains, though |
| 19:42.27 | rhowe | OK, just wondering |
| 19:43.24 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 19:43.33 | wethrin | morsing! |
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| 19:43.45 | morsing | wethrin: How do I get to Earl's Court on Thursday |
| 19:43.46 | morsing | ? |
| 19:43.48 | morsing | Ch0Hag! |
| 19:44.02 | wethrin | morsing: Where from? |
| 19:44.09 | morsing | Basingstoke |
| 19:44.19 | wethrin | Does that involve a train to Waterloo? |
| 19:44.25 | morsing | Hey wethrin - Check it: |
| 19:44.27 | morsing | ibot Toby |
| 19:44.28 | ibot | Improved version of LOGO programming langauge.. URL: http://www.xnot.com/toby/, or the master of all dogs, or much better than Porchia |
| 19:44.31 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 19:44.34 | morsing | :) |
| 19:45.06 | morsing | wethrin: I can drive to a station |
| 19:45.13 | morsing | Like Winnersh |
| 19:45.16 | wethrin | Where's that? |
| 19:45.18 | Ch0Hag | gtk or glib is killing my machine. |
| 19:45.21 | wethrin | Basingstoke has a station |
| 19:45.24 | morsing | Near Reading |
| 19:45.35 | morsing | wethrin: Well yes, but I have to get home afterwards |
| 19:45.36 | Ch0Hag | It wasn't just a confusion of kernels, as I'd sort of hoped but not really expected. |
| 19:45.44 | morsing | And it's 1.5h drive from Basngstoke |
| 19:46.05 | morsing | Maybe I can drive to Watford and take the train |
| 19:46.44 | wethrin | Hm. Why not train from Aylesbury, then? |
| 19:47.46 | morsing | That would take me 3.5h |
| 19:47.55 | morsing | So wouldn't be there till 8:30 |
| 19:48.25 | morsing | Can I drive there? |
| 19:48.41 | wethrin | The parking's not really very good |
| 19:48.46 | wethrin | If you drive, there's not much drinking, though |
| 19:48.56 | morsing | Well, wouldn't be anyway |
| 19:49.06 | wethrin | there's an entrance fee... |
| 19:49.12 | morsing | Maybe if I booked a hotel either in Basingstoke or near EC |
| 19:49.32 | wethrin | could do :) |
| 19:50.11 | wethrin | Earl's Court is conveniently on a tube line |
| 19:50.17 | wethrin | On two, even |
| 19:50.17 | morsing | Or crash at Matt's |
| 19:50.21 | wethrin | mm |
| 19:50.33 | morsing | So I'd go to Waterloo then? |
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| 19:50.40 | wethrin | From Basingstoke, yes |
| 19:53.09 | Ch0Hag | Every gtk app sucks enough memory to make Vista look lean. |
| 19:53.13 | morsing | AnneC? |
| 19:53.15 | Ch0Hag | I guess they thought MS needed some competition. |
| 19:53.28 | wethrin | Then up to Embankment, and District line to Earls Court |
| 19:55.32 | antiphase | Unless you can get off at Wimbledon and get the District Line |
| 19:55.54 | wethrin | good point |
| 19:56.55 | morsing | Who's up for a quick Mornington Crescent? |
| 19:57.02 | morsing | Basingstoke! |
| 19:57.09 | wethrin | That's not on the tube line! |
| 19:57.15 | morsing | :( |
| 19:57.18 | Ch0Hag | Mornington Crescent! |
| 19:57.20 | morsing | That's allowed! |
| 19:57.20 | Ch0Hag | Very quick... |
| 19:57.24 | wethrin | You can't do that! |
| 19:57.27 | wethrin | Not on the first round |
| 19:57.31 | morsing | wethrin: Saddo! |
| 19:57.32 | morsing | :D |
| 19:57.42 | wethrin | Hammersmith |
| 19:58.00 | Ch0Hag | The rules were modified circa. 2004 to allow it in brief games. |
| 19:58.12 | wethrin | no they weren't |
| 19:58.19 | morsing | wethrin: Ch0Hag is right |
| 19:58.26 | morsing | It's there (*points*) |
| 20:00.05 | rhowe | wow |
| 20:00.14 | rhowe | that was a lot of effort for a glass of orange juice |
| 20:00.16 | morsing | rhowe? |
| 20:00.27 | morsing | rhowe: You went to Mornington Crescent? |
| 20:00.37 | morsing | rhowe: How's the wife? |
| 20:00.39 | rhowe | I did? |
| 20:00.46 | rhowe | morsing: Dunno - she's back next week |
| 20:00.47 | morsing | rhowe: Yes you did |
| 20:00.55 | morsing | rhowe: You sure she's coming back? |
| 20:01.19 | rhowe | *shrug* her visa runs out :P |
| 20:02.13 | wethrin | shouldn't she be able to get British citizenship by marrying you? |
| 20:02.19 | rhowe | eventually |
| 20:02.29 | rhowe | But that's her Japanese visa that runs out |
| 20:03.34 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:03.45 | wethrin | Just had some |
| 20:03.56 | wethrin | DING! |
| 20:04.01 | wethrin | rhowe wins! |
| 20:04.15 | rhowe | bellevue kriek in the fridge too |
| 20:04.20 | wethrin | Cantillon FTW |
| 20:04.38 | morsing | My feet smell |
| 20:05.01 | wethrin | TMI |
| 20:05.46 | morsing | wethrin: BTW - Big Red has *some* play in the rear wheel bearings. Don't be frightened if you notice some nasty knocking noises while driving |
| 20:06.01 | morsing | It passed the MOT with it though |
| 20:06.09 | wethrin | As long as it doesn't fall apart |
| 20:06.22 | rhowe | What's the longest journey it's done recently? :) |
| 20:06.28 | morsing | Hmm... Headlamps might fall out while driving |
| 20:07.08 | rhowe | And do you have something like AA cover? :) |
| 20:07.09 | morsing | rhowe: Went to the pod and back and have been to work in it |
| 20:07.09 | morsing | rhowe: I do |
| 20:07.09 | rhowe | Then it's fine |
| 20:07.22 | rhowe | So long as they don't tow us back to Aylesbury :) |
| 20:07.42 | morsing | :) |
| 20:07.59 | morsing | rhowe: I'll bring a screwdriver - that will fix anything on that car |
| 20:08.04 | wethrin | :) |
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| 20:10.36 | morsing | kjalil! |
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| 20:11.01 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 20:11.43 | antiphase | I've never heard a wheel bearing that knocks |
| 20:12.26 | morsing | antiphase: Neither have I - I don't think it's the bearing itself but it's hitting something inside the drum brake |
| 20:12.33 | morsing | The un-alignment that is |
| 20:12.39 | antiphase | Sounds dangerous |
| 20:12.50 | morsing | I can feel the brake pedal kick back |
| 20:12.57 | morsing | antiphase: Don't think it is |
| 20:13.10 | antiphase | I don't think I'd drive it in that state ;) |
| 20:13.30 | morsing | Ha ha - I've driven cars in much, much worse state than that ;-) |
| 20:14.02 | antiphase | Wheels falling off makes a mess though |
| 20:14.21 | morsing | Wheel won't fall off. It's solid |
| 20:15.28 | morsing | antiphase: Anyway - passed the MOT and that means it's not dangerous ;-) |
| 20:16.14 | antiphase | Of course. I drove to work once in my Land Rover with almost no brakes after it failed the MOT. I'm still here just about |
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| 20:16.50 | antiphase | Narrowly missed a stationary Transit van over a blind crest mind you |
| 20:18.17 | morsing | antiphase: Mind you - it did get MOT'ed with a brake line full of air, i.e. only rear wheel had functioning brakes :) |
| 20:19.53 | antiphase | It's nice to find a "good" tester ;) |
| 20:30.05 | sabinef72 | hi men |
| 20:30.15 | sabinef72 | how are you ? |
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| 20:32.53 | morsing | sabinef72: cmok cmok |
| 20:32.53 | morsing | sabinef72: I'm good thanks :) |
| 20:32.58 | morsing | Very happy - how are you? |
| 20:33.20 | morsing | clive-h! |
| 20:35.10 | morsing | £5 a day?!? |
| 20:37.34 | sabinef72 | some contractions but all is still ok |
| 20:37.54 | morsing | sabinef72: Ohh... When is it? October I thought? |
| 20:38.23 | clive-h | hi again |
| 20:39.10 | sabinef72 | the due date is october 14 th |
| 20:39.53 | morsing | 'k Is everything ok? |
| 20:40.13 | sabinef72 | yes it's normal |
| 20:40.22 | sabinef72 | if I do to much things, contractions are ok |
| 20:40.23 | morsing | Good |
| 20:40.40 | sabinef72 | not so hurting for the moment |
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| 22:08.14 | Wankus | Hello |
| 22:09.39 | antiphase | Is "Wankus" an appeal? |
| 22:14.36 | Wankus | a what? |
| 22:23.35 | gw280 | I appear to have just done a 10 hour day at work |
| 22:28.56 | Wankus | Sounds bad |
| 22:29.42 | wethrin | productive, or procrastinating? |
| 22:31.43 | gw280 | wethrin: very productive, we got webkit working on a nokia n800 |
| 22:31.56 | gw280 | wethrin: hooked into their abstract browser UI |
| 22:32.19 | wethrin | nice |
| 22:32.19 | gw280 | Wankus: I'm int he fortunate position of having a job which I *love* |
| 22:32.34 | gw280 | being paid to work on open source software is definitely a privilege |
| 22:38.06 | Wankus | Ah, I understand! |
| 22:38.41 | Wankus | nice work |
| 22:39.28 | gw280 | wethrin: turns out some of the design decisions Nokia made re. browsers weren't ideal |
| 22:42.22 | wethrin | surely not :) |
| 23:16.57 | z00dax | wethrin: hey, howse it going ? |
| 23:17.21 | z00dax | oh look! its a gw280 ! |
| 23:17.23 | wethrin | z00dax! Not bad |
| 23:17.37 | wethrin | Facebook's upload-photos applet is irritating, though |
| 23:17.53 | z00dax | I just got onto facebook the other day, and got bored of it in 15 min |
| 23:18.01 | wethrin | ah well |
| 23:18.10 | z00dax | although, I hear its adictive once you get into the swing of things |
| 23:18.14 | wethrin | wait until you hunt more people down |
| 23:18.18 | wethrin | Yeah. It is. |
| 23:18.27 | z00dax | I've got like 8 people or something on my hitlist |
| 23:18.37 | gw280 | z00dax: YOU'RE ON FACEBOOK?!?!?! |
| 23:18.41 | wethrin | :) |
| 23:18.45 | gw280 | also, there's a scrabble app on facebook |
| 23:18.49 | gw280 | which is clearly the most awesome thing EVER |
| 23:18.56 | wethrin | SHould I install it? |
| 23:19.02 | z00dax | gw280: yea, i gave in :< |
| 23:19.13 | gw280 | wethrin: to be honest, I haven't actually played any games yet |
| 23:19.18 | gw280 | wethrin: BUT... SCRABBLE |
| 23:19.19 | gw280 | ON FACEBOOK |
| 23:19.20 | z00dax | there is a facebook developer garage meet on wednesday, keithlard_ and I plan on attending |
| 23:19.23 | wethrin | Yeah... |
| 23:19.26 | wethrin | heh |
| 23:19.55 | gw280 | I'VE FOUND Z00DAX |
| 23:21.24 | z00dax | yay! I've now got 2 more friends, also I have a zombie invitation, whatever that means |
| 23:21.38 | wethrin | it's a silly app |
| 23:23.33 | z00dax | humm looking at my picture there, my left eye seems a bit strange... guess my glass's got in the way |
| 23:24.06 | wethrin | mmm |
| 23:25.24 | gw280 | hrm, I can see the floor again |
| 23:25.42 | wethrin | careless |
| 23:26.06 | gw280 | z00dax: mozrat's on facebook? how is he these days? |
| 23:26.49 | wethrin | mozrat's on FB too? |
| 23:26.59 | z00dax | gw280: last i heard, he was getting a life togther. I've not met him for almost a year now |
| 23:27.16 | z00dax | btw, i am going down to gbbf on thursday... anyone else likely to be around ? |
| 23:27.21 | wethrin | Me |
| 23:27.26 | gw280 | gbbf? |
| 23:27.33 | wethrin | But you've seen the Social post, I presume |
| 23:27.35 | wethrin | BEER |
| 23:27.47 | wethrin | morsing might be there. And a couple of other people |
| 23:28.00 | wethrin | Badger Brewery stand is a good meeting point |
| 23:28.47 | z00dax | aye |
| 23:29.00 | wethrin | Is there a Gllug FB group? |
| 23:29.06 | z00dax | we should start one |
| 23:29.10 | wethrin | I'll be there around 6 |
| 23:29.13 | wethrin | Good plan |
| 23:29.17 | z00dax | also, we should post something about gbbf meetup on the www.gllug.org.uk website |
| 23:29.35 | wethrin | with the site, or fb? |
| 23:30.35 | z00dax | with site |
| 23:31.44 | z00dax | also, i should book ticket for gbbf now |
| 23:31.52 | wethrin | I'm going to buy on the day |
| 23:31.54 | z00dax | gw280: will you come ? |
| 23:31.58 | wethrin | Being a camra member++ |
| 23:32.47 | wethrin | FUCK |
| 23:32.54 | wethrin | Safari's just crashed |
| 23:32.55 | gw280 | z00dax: doubt it, I have a job and no money |
| 23:33.03 | wethrin | and you don't drink... |
| 23:33.15 | z00dax | thats usually not how it works gw280, most people who have a job get paid :) |
| 23:34.10 | gw280 | z00dax: I haven't got round to invoicing my employer yet |
| 23:34.47 | wethrin | and again... |
| 23:37.45 | gw280 | ? |
| 23:37.45 | wethrin | Right. Gllug is now trendy-like |
| 23:38.37 | wethrin | ?? |
| 23:45.07 | z00dax | ok, the website has *something* there now |
| 23:45.20 | z00dax | I am not at my creative best, at 1am.. |
| 23:45.44 | wethrin | I've made you an admin of the Gllug group |
| 23:46.22 | z00dax | http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213885855 is a related group! |
| 23:46.25 | z00dax | ta |
| 23:46.54 | wethrin | I don't know how it worked that one out |
| 23:48.30 | z00dax | i suppose gllug @GBBF is a sort os Sporting event, a tournament even ! |
| 23:48.37 | wethrin | DRINK! |
| 23:49.00 | z00dax | s/os S/of S/ |
| 23:49.43 | wethrin | Feel free to change the group categorisation, if you can find a more appropriate one |
| 23:51.39 | wethrin | sleeptime. night! |
| 23:52.02 | z00dax | http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=4005529085 |
| 23:53.07 | wethrin | yay |
| 23:53.24 | wethrin | you need to invite people |
| 23:53.34 | wethrin | Looks like there'll be a decent crowd on Thursday |
| 23:53.39 | z00dax | nice :) |
| 23:53.44 | wethrin | and now I'm off to sleep |
| 23:53.46 | wethrin | g'night! |
| 23:53.47 | z00dax | ok, let me see how that invites thing works |
| 23:53.49 | z00dax | nite |