IRC log for #gllug on 20070822

00:00.18z00daxyou mentioned at one time there was a memory leak in the .ko that managed its interface... is that still an issue ( also , what kernel do you run these days )
00:00.39gw280z00dax: no, that was for the SATA controller card I have
00:01.36z00daxerr. which one is that ?
00:01.50z00daxalso, what verion of mdadm are you using that lets you hotswap ?
00:02.01gw280z00dax: I don't have hotswap capability
00:02.11gw280z00dax: and the MV_SATA_DC8
00:02.54z00daxi thought the whole poing of the smc cage was hotswap
00:03.51gw280z00dax: yes
00:04.04gw280but also the whole point is that you can fit 5 disks in a 3 thingy
00:07.01z00daxhttp://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/accessories/mobilerack/CSE-M35T-1.cfm
00:07.09z00daxi presume this is what you have ?
00:08.14gw280yes
00:10.35z00daxi need to put together something with 10 drives, and might end up using 2 of these, if i can find someone who sells them
00:11.00trousers_Aye, why not?
00:13.55ThovenMeh, I'll stick with the old.
00:14.52trousers_Hmm...
00:15.16ThovenYes, I'll stick with this and that's final >.>
00:22.09z00dax-r--------  1 root    root    1.2T Aug 22 01:16 lastlog
00:22.12z00daxnice
00:22.38Thoven1.2T D:
00:28.55Leedsibot Thoven is trousers
00:28.56ibotLeeds: okay
00:29.10gw280/dev/md0              1.1T  1.1T   32G  98% /mnt/fluorine
00:29.10gw280/dev/md1              430G  427G  2.2G 100% /mnt/chlorine
00:29.21clive-hin unsigned notation yes
00:32.07z00daxgw280: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/129306
00:32.41gw280hrm
00:34.04clive-hIt's a Deathstar
00:34.52z00daxbased on the guy who gave me the 1TB drive, seagate is going to be a few months still
00:35.40z00daxclive-h: I got one of these ( http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2007/03/30/ ) a while back, been running 24/7 so far no problems
00:35.58z00daxalthough having said that, its now going to burn and die on me before the day is over :/
00:36.55clive-hsmartd is flagging up errors?
00:37.04z00daxnot yet no
00:37.39clive-hBut you fear it will imminently?
00:37.53z00daxsince i just tempted fate
00:38.40z00daxalthough, i didnt pay for it - its a demo sample, so .. well.. i am not going to complain either way
00:40.24ThovenActually, screw that D:
00:40.33trousers_Prefer that.
00:40.35trousers_Bah.
00:40.45Leedsibot trousers_ was Thoven
00:41.16trousers_There, final.
00:41.18trousers_Sorry :P
00:42.44trousers_Too many things know me as trousers to be able to change :P
00:50.09trousers_Apologies D:
02:05.53gw280moo.
03:07.45z00daxgoto sleep
04:27.21morsingBeer
07:05.24morsing'morning
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07:30.48morsingProvito!
07:38.41morsingPchn.. w t. .ód. je.a lub o.m skrzy. fig.
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07:52.58morsingSlayerXP!
07:53.13SlayerXPre
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08:01.51benoystgoàd morning
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08:01.57benoysts/a/o/
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08:20.00morsingXPSlammer!
08:20.20niv_one_threeam I suppose to like the netsplits?
08:20.49morsingYup - they're good for you ;-)
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08:46.22morsinggoibhniu!
08:46.49goibhniumorsing: you're back! ... really back!!
08:47.04morsingDoes anyone now how it works if I want to invoice a danish person via my UK company?
08:47.06goibhniuit's just like the good old days!
08:47.11morsinggoibhniu: Yop - I am :)
08:47.16morsing'tis :)
08:48.28XPSlammermorsing: you.... invoice them.  and hopefully they pay.
08:48.47morsingWhat about VAT? And tax and stuff?
08:50.57XPSlammerif it's an individual, you charge them VAT
08:51.07XPSlammerI know not what "tax and stuff" you mean
08:51.23XPSlammerwell, assuming you're VAT registered, you charge them VAT
08:52.05morsingI am - it's the housing association. I'm hosting their web and mail stuff
08:52.46XPSlammerthen you charge them VAT _unless_ they are VAT registered
08:52.52boudiccasdoes my bum look big in these slacks please?
09:02.21goibhniuboudiccas: maybe try the other ones
09:02.39boudiccaswhat other ones? what channels?
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09:13.20goibhniuboudiccas: maybe you should consider boiled sossidges
09:13.28goibhniuvegetable ones ... just for a while
09:18.18morsingblight!
09:18.20morsinghuw-l!
09:26.57blightmorsing: mornin
09:30.08boudiccasgoibhniu; but i've got to wear =some= slacks so go out and buy these sausages. what i'm asking is ... does my bum look big in these slacks please?
09:31.25boudiccaswhat a fatuitous request. how can you possibly answer that question when you can't see anything from my end at all
09:31.33goibhniunah, not really
09:31.41boudiccasmaybe i should save that question and ask dick-turpin :)
09:31.54goibhniuhe'll lie!
09:32.19boudiccasbut he won't know if he's lying or not, but i will :)
09:33.06boudiccascome back dick-turpin, all is forgiven
09:38.02wethrinpeepl!
09:38.28bilarhwhat are slacks anyway?
09:38.37bilarhis it related to slacking? if so, i'm an expert
09:43.25haliyes
09:43.32halicasual wear trousers
09:43.40halifor watching horse polo and stuff like that
09:45.22bilarhthat suonds totally gay
09:45.52bilarhboudiccas: i recommend jogging bottoms
09:46.01bilarhthe *real* slackers choice
09:46.10wethrinwith white socks pulled up over the bottoms?
09:46.13morsingwethrin!
09:46.17wethrinaye!
09:46.24morsingHow's work?
09:46.51halibilarh: i've told you before, stay clear of jogging bottoms and hoddies!!11one
09:47.03wethrinit's.....slow so far
09:47.16wethrinI suppose I should sort out some lunch, and then get down to some work
09:48.15boudiccasbilarh; but i can't wear them around town, theyre not smart enough
09:49.16bilarhwethrin: my socks aren't long enough to cover my bottom
09:49.29wethrinboom
09:49.30bilarhboudiccas: and neither are you ;-)
09:49.41bilarhi fank you, i fank you :)
09:50.10morsingBeer
09:50.28bilarhboudiccas: depends on what you're doing in town, though, no?
09:50.57bilarhboudiccas: if you're going to a posh establishment like mc donalds or burger king, it would appear to be the done thing
09:51.10wethrinM C DONALD IN DA HOUSE
09:51.18wethrinI'll get me coat
09:51.22bilarhhehe :)
09:51.26bilarhtaxi for wethrin!
09:51.52bilarhi reckon hoodies ftw... especially on a day like today
09:52.18bilarhor maybe a wet suit, depending on how the weather develops over the coming hour or so
09:52.48cpufreaksunny here in slovenia
09:52.49cpufreakblue skies
09:52.53cpufreakbirds singing
09:54.17bilarhah, but are they fit?
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09:56.18cpufreaksome fit ones here, yep
09:56.20cpufreaknone in the office
09:56.35bilarhyou've got an office in slovenia? cool :D
09:56.43cpufreakr
09:57.41boudiccasbilarh; just going food shopping, to get a new table tennis bat, and to the adult learning center
10:25.34morsingboudiccas: How are you?
10:27.07morsingboudiccas?
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11:44.33niv_one_threejust can't stop listening to porcupine tree...
11:44.51niv_one_threeif it aint coming from my player, then on the radio
11:44.55niv_one_threeerr....
11:47.58blightniv_one_three: genre ?
11:48.17niv_one_threealt. rock..
11:48.36bilarhi prefer alt.rock.groupies
11:48.51blightniv_one_three: ah will have to look for them
11:55.37morsingWeird
11:57.42blightmorsing: what's that?
11:58.47morsingWhat niv_one_three is saying
11:58.55morsingWell, you as well
11:58.56morsing:)
11:59.33goibhniuniv_one_three: how do you test if an item is in a bash array?
12:00.47antiphaseUes Perl
12:00.51niv_one_threemorsing: are you calling me weird?
12:01.07bilarhgoibhniu: iterate over it, afaik
12:01.28morsingniv_one_three: Ermm... ;-)
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12:01.34morsingdick_turpin!
12:01.45goibhniuwow! how ugly! ... thanks!
12:01.51dick_turpinmorsing:
12:01.59bilarhgoibhniu: yeah :(
12:02.04dick_turpingoibhniu: You old tart what you doin?
12:02.21bilarhhe was calling you ugly, just then!
12:03.03dick_turpinbilarh: Ah but then I can always have plastic surgery, god knows what can help him :-P
12:03.06bilarh12:02 < goibhniu> here's a picture of dick_turpin
12:03.15bilarh12:03 -!- dick_turpin [n=dick_tur@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #gllug
12:03.26bilarhthat's all i'm saying :)
12:04.23dick_turpinibot: give bilarh a chinese burn
12:04.24ibotACTION gives a chinese burn to bilarh
12:04.38bilarhwow, thanks ibot!
12:04.54bilarh(what's a chinese burn?)
12:05.14dick_turpinbilarh: bloody painful
12:05.35bilarhdoes it involve burning coal and a red hot poker?
12:05.44bilarhif so, i might have played it at some club i went to
12:06.19dick_turpinbilarh: grasp the victims wrist with both hands then twist in opposite directions back and forth
12:06.28bilarhoooh right :D
12:06.34bilarhand then you end up with a red arm?
12:06.43dick_turpinbilarh: :-)
12:07.14bilarhi used to play that at school, i think
12:07.28bilarhand it was my brothers favourite party trick to 'burn' me when he was about six
12:07.28dick_turpinbilarh: Was it approved?
12:08.02dick_turpingoibhniu: You fixed compiz-fusion yet?
12:08.44goibhniuyep
12:08.48goibhniubut I'm back with kde
12:09.19goibhniugnome and it's stinking evil invalid cookies!
12:09.22bilarhdick_turpin: he's doing porridge for another 5 years for it
12:09.26dick_turpingoibhniu: Welcome back to the human race then
12:10.16goibhniudick_turpin: the good news is ... I can still use gnome-term with transparency and gnome-launch-box
12:10.45goibhniuit's just odd when I save something from FF and some unfamiliar dialog comes up
12:10.53goibhniuthat and the ugly klock
12:10.59dick_turpingoibhniu: I watched CSI Miami last night and was thinking of you
12:11.06goibhniutnkx
12:11.17dick_turpingoibhniu: It was about Voodoo
12:11.34goibhniulots of chickens?
12:11.52goibhniuI heard a great blues show on the radio once ... all about chickens
12:11.59dick_turpingoibhniu: I particularly like the scene where the laptop burst into flames
12:12.00goibhniuamazing how influential they are
12:12.09dick_turpinliked
12:12.20goibhniuahh ... that'd be me
12:12.31goibhniuI have to blow on it when it goes over 80C
12:12.49dick_turpingoibhniu: I kept waiting for that music from the twighlight zone to start playing
12:12.57antiphaseLaptops are for chumps
12:13.06antiphaseFixed computing is the future
12:13.41dick_turpinantiphase: And I bet you can never imagine anyone ever needing more than 64MB of ram either
12:14.08antiphasePeople don't need to walk about with computers any more than they did when 64MB of RAM was common though ;)
12:14.53dick_turpinantiphase: "It's a 2.5GB hard drive mate, you'll never fill it"
12:15.01goibhniuas long as they're invisible and silent they're ok by me
12:15.05morsingdick_turpin: How are you?
12:15.22goibhniudick_turpin: morsing is back in action .. full time!!
12:15.28antiphaseIf I wanted to light a fire and make myself impotent, I'd buy some blocks of naphtha from Wilko's and use some bricks on my nuts. I suppose you can play games while your crown jewels fuck up if you use a laptop though
12:15.38dick_turpinmorsing: Brilliant! 3rd week of stopping smoking and ready to cook on gas
12:16.21dick_turpinantiphase: Nope I have a very expensive laptop cooler twin turbo fans USB driven :-)
12:16.41morsingdick_turpin: Sounds nice
12:17.08dick_turpinmorsing: The joys of full time employment
12:17.22morsingOr contracting
12:18.41dick_turpingoibhniu: No updates on compiz for me last night, I think the repo is down again
12:20.18dick_turpinmembers
12:20.50goibhniudick_turpin: does arch build it from git?
12:21.37dick_turpingoibhniu: And now you openly reveal my incompetance "I dunno"
12:21.57bilarhthere's a gllug group? :D
12:22.00dick_turpingoibhniu: Youre not gonna suggest I do the git crap are you?
12:22.09dick_turpinbilarh: Yep
12:22.53dick_turpinAnneC: You about?
12:23.15AnneCyep, quite busy though
12:23.16goibhniudick_turpin: well if you do build from git (automatically with voodoo magic) you may just need to reinstall to get the latest
12:23.39goibhniuthat's what happens in gentoo land anyway
12:23.42dick_turpinAnneC: Thats not you on facebook is it?
12:25.07dick_turpingoibhniu: You could always get an infected one from Ubuntu, Ooh you swine dick_turpin :-D
12:25.55AnneCyes it is, why?
12:27.03dick_turpinAnneC: AnneC Anne L just wondered
12:27.45wethrinhave we all joined the Gllug facebook group, then?
12:29.50bilarhhah, peter cannon looks just like me :D
12:29.53wethrinheh
12:30.54bilarhwho is everyone?
12:31.21dick_turpinbilarh: Gorgeous ain't he :-)
12:31.30bilarhlike me :D
12:31.37goibhniubilarh: you need to be invited
12:31.38bilarhdick_turpin: it's not you, is it?
12:31.43wethrinbilarh: I'm me
12:31.43bilarhno i joined it
12:31.52dick_turpinbilarh: no I'm him
12:31.52bilarhhehe, nice reflectoporn from anneC hehe
12:32.02goibhniugatecrasher
12:32.13dick_turpingoibhniu: Where?
12:32.29AnneC;-)
12:32.57dick_turpinAnneC: I'm crushed, you mean thats not a true likeness?
12:33.41bilarhdick_turpin: *I'm* crushed... i look like you :(
12:33.50dick_turpinboudiccas: You awake? youre gonna like this
12:33.50AnneCno it's me on a picture that looks like me *sometimes*
12:34.30dick_turpinbilarh: I'm happy to say you look nothing like me ;-)
12:34.58boudiccasdick_turpin; just got in from shopping
12:34.59murbwethrin: I have.
12:35.09murbwethrin: and i even managed to change my shell!
12:35.17murband send myself an email!
12:35.23wethrinhurrah
12:35.29wethrinmurb: What was the trouble you had?
12:35.48murbwethrin: I don't know,from one of my machines ssh just got stuck
12:35.56murbstrace showed it waiting for input.
12:36.01wethrinhow odd
12:36.13murbi guess it is mtu weirdness
12:36.21bilarhmy god, keith lard looks just like someone i used to work with
12:36.27murbneed to reflash my router as some point.
12:36.52wethrinmaybe you used to work with him?
12:38.42bilarhno he wasn't called keith
12:38.42bilarhor lard
12:40.15XPSlammerI'm allegedly cute, according to some derrnaged merkin lass who's found my picture on facebook
12:41.17morsingXPSlammer: There's a group now?
12:41.30morsingwethrin: I haven't
12:41.52dick_turpinboudiccas: Rats, sorry the moment has gone, was gonna carry on about Readers Wives but we've missed it now
12:42.33XPSlammermorsing: yes
12:43.14dick_turpinXPSlammer: The image of you I came across would look good with a police mugshot number ;-)
12:45.03wethrinmorsing: You'd better fix it, then
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12:45.21wethrinmikejw!
12:45.25wethrinStill up for giving a talk?
12:45.32wethrinOoh, actually....
12:45.36mikejw?
12:45.41morsingwethrin: Fix what?
12:45.53wethrinXPSlammer: Would you be willing to talk about AntibodyMX to Gllug?
12:46.00wethrinmorsing: not being in the Gllug group
12:46.07morsingAhh
12:46.11morsingDo you want me there?
12:46.20dick_turpinmorsing: Yes
12:46.20wethrinit's open to all
12:46.38morsingIs there a Toby group? I know there's a short-haired german pointer group
12:48.23trousers_Howdy.
12:48.41mikejwhi trousers
12:48.58XPSlammerwethrin: have I not previosuly mentioned my irrational fear of public speaking?
12:49.07wethrinXPSlammer: Ah. You may have
12:49.12trousers_Need to organise my SFD plans D:
12:49.20XPSlammerwethrin: plus I know none of you lot have any money
12:49.25trousers_Need to try to find some speakers, otherwise no talks D:
12:49.34wethrintrousers_: Where are you organising?
12:49.43trousers_wethrin: Kingston-upon-Thames.
12:49.48wethrinharr
12:49.52trousers_?
12:49.55wethrinHarr :)
12:50.00trousers_What?
12:50.05morsingtrousers_!
12:50.09trousers_morsing!
12:50.17wethrinAre there any companies around there?
12:50.25morsingXPSlammer: Seriously?
12:50.26trousers_wethrin: Not really...
12:50.33trousers_wethrin: Why?
12:51.43trousers_There is an (all be it crap) university down the road I can try to contact for speaking space... If I get any speakes.
12:51.47trousers_s/es//ers/
12:51.50trousers_Wagh!
12:54.28trousers_Is anybody willing?
12:54.35XPSlammermorsing: seriously what?
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12:57.32morsingcatalyst!
12:58.16catalystmorsing!
13:02.06goibhniumikejw: can you give a talk on ardour, audacity and terminatorX please?
13:02.40bilarhhmm
13:02.53bilarhi think i need to seek help
13:02.56mikejwdude, I would if I could :/
13:03.12bilarhwtf ? :P
13:03.21mikejwI might be getting evicted from my house soon :0[
13:03.24bilarhrandom attack or what :)
13:03.45bilarhah, i get it now :)
13:03.52blightanyone here know if it's possible to find out what my AD DN is when logged in to Windows?
13:04.26bilarhblight: can you not right click on 'my computer' and select properties? and then network settings or something?
13:07.12Leedsblight: ipconfig in a dos box?
13:07.31Leedspossibly with an option
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13:10.39morsingPuss1nB00ts!
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13:25.29Leedsso *that's* what happens if you knock a laptop at the back while it's running on battery power...
13:26.26wethrinit resets your connections?
13:30.35murbmaybe it nocks out the router?
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13:41.31morsingwethrin: Why did catalyst leave? :(
13:55.56dick_turpingoibhniu: Oi
14:04.34goibhniudick_turpin yo!
14:05.26dick_turpingoibhniu: How come you came out top on my quiz test?
14:08.47dick_turpingoibhniu: Ever used Arudius LiveCD?
14:11.46goibhniunope
14:11.50goibhniuis it fun?
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14:14.25dick_turpingoibhniu: I was hoping it would be, downloaded it but it seems to hang at dhcp which is odd
14:15.27dick_turpingoibhniu: seeing as I dont need dhcp daemon to be running (I think) just dhcp-client
14:16.07morsingasht_007_!
14:18.29etorixIt contains an extensive set of software tools used by IT security professionals for penetration testing and vulnerability analysis. Its goal is to include the most complete set of useful security tools and still maintain a small footprint.
14:18.29etorixno good if it cant get online
14:19.35murbetorix: or seeing how quickly you can get arrested for going equipped.
14:19.58etorixin de maybe
14:21.34goibhniuahh .. one of them
14:22.06etorixnice list of screwdrivers http://www.tdisecurity.com/iso/arudius_list.txt
14:22.49dick_turpinetorix: Hm I was intending to trial it with my WFI
14:23.46dick_turpinWIFI
14:23.47etorixmissing firmware?
14:24.35dick_turpinetorix: Don't think so, the internal WIFI functions I can see the connection with wifi-radar
14:25.09etorixso its got non-free kit on it already
14:25.46dick_turpinetorix: Yep, I'm not a freedom evangalist, sorry
14:26.01etorixnor am i,  but
14:28.32dick_turpinI'm downloading it again here perhaps it don't like my hardware?
14:28.58morsingBeer
14:29.29dick_turpinmorsing: No beer for me thanks, it'll make me want a fag
14:30.18bilarhdick_turpin: :S
14:31.12dick_turpinbilarh: Cor that looked just like your picture ;-)
14:31.21bilarhhehe bitch
14:31.37dick_turpinbilarh: We aim to please
14:31.47morsingdick_turpin: Grass scent - I'm telling you...
14:31.50goibhniudick_turpin: quitter!!
14:32.21dick_turpinmorsing: goibhniuWTF?
14:32.39dick_turpingoibhniu: Ah I get it now
14:32.44morsingHuh?
14:32.50goibhniuI quit too ... last year
14:33.14goibhniuit's not as tough as I thought
14:33.18dick_turpingoibhniu: This'll be my third attempt did give up for a year once
14:33.23goibhniuand it's always fun to have the odd one
14:34.00dick_turpingoibhniu: Trouble is I've up'd my crack intake
14:34.45goibhniuheroin does no damage at all ... as long as it's pure
14:35.56dick_turpingoibhniu: Actually I'm a good boy. Don't do drugs
14:36.28morsingHey - can I ask a technical question?
14:36.33bilarhmorsing: no
14:36.49bilarhmorsing: what do you think this is? some nerd channel?! sheesh
14:37.04dick_turpinibot: Clip bilarh round the ear
14:37.30bilarhhah, seems your metal friend has abandoned you!
14:38.02dick_turpinbilarh: Its coz he's an idiot
14:38.35dick_turpinmorsing: Come on whats the question?
14:38.55goibhniudick_turpin: you should try
14:39.24dick_turpingoibhniu: Try what?
14:41.15goibhniumeth
14:45.00morsingdick_turpin: I've setup this proxied tunnel now but after a while, activity or not, it kicks me out. I think I need some sort of keepalive
14:45.11dick_turpin1 sec
14:45.23morsingUsing putty
14:45.28morsingIn windows
14:45.52goibhniumorsing: it's a setting in sshd I think
14:46.04boudiccasmorsing; don't forget the little nail to hold the glass steady whilst you apply the putty in windows
14:46.04goibhniuor you can watch -n 5 ls or something
14:46.10morsingboudiccas: Beer
14:46.20morsinggoibhniu: That doesn't work - tried itr
14:46.21boudiccasdidn't get any, soirry
14:46.42goibhniuoh .. even with activity you say ... hrm
14:47.41morsingEven sitting here typing in IRC it kicks me out after a set time. Luckily I use screen
14:48.55goibhniumorsing: you use windows?
14:53.57dick_turpinmorsing: I think if memory serves you correct, /etc/sshd.conf
14:55.07morsinggoibhniu: Of course
14:55.26morsingdick_turpin: I don't have that file
14:56.13dick_turpinmorsing: Did I miss something? are you on Windows?
14:56.22morsingdick_turpin: Of course
14:56.45dick_turpinmorsing: Hm let me think
15:00.24dick_turpinmorsing: Are you using putting?
15:00.31dick_turpinputty
15:00.35dick_turpinbum
15:07.01dick_turpinOh for gods sake gimme a break; Ubuntu Certified Professional exam
15:07.16trousers_Certiciation for Ubuntu?!
15:07.35murbdick_turpin: certified, they shoul dbe sectioned.
15:07.53murbyou have to give them a chance to prove their sanity after all.
15:09.45dick_turpinseathing
15:12.31dick_turpingoibhniu: Please, you temptress, you know how I hate saying controversial stuff (bloody spellchecker)
15:12.55goibhniujust change your nick first
15:14.34dick_turpingoibhniu: Gotta cold? try Ubuntu powders! Cant give your partner pleasure? the all new community driven Ubuntu vibro will do the job
15:15.14dick_turpinUbuntu Credit Card anyone
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15:18.05goibhniudick_turpin: you'd get more resistance criticising microsoft around here
15:19.35wethrinonly if you criticise without any good reason :)
15:25.08bilarhmorsing: are you definitely sure it's kicking you off after a set period? just sounds like a bad connection to me :)
15:26.15wethrinSo...is 2 talks plus a shorter talk, plus lightning talks enough for a meeting?
15:26.39cpufreakis that including me?
15:27.07wethrinyes
15:27.28wethrinor should I get some other talk too?
15:28.27trousers_wethrin: How do you get talks?
15:28.38wethrintrousers_: Asking people until they give in
15:28.47wethrinOccasionally they're crazy enough to volunteer
15:28.50trousers_wethrin: So, do you want to talk for SFD Kingston? :)
15:28.55wethrinNo :)
15:28.59trousers_wethrin: Are you sure?
15:29.04wethrinyes
15:29.10wethrinI'm not going to be around then
15:29.13trousers_wethrin: It's not working D:
15:29.43trousers_It's getting closer and closer but not any more organised :(
15:30.11trousers_I need to find speakers and then I can contact Kingston Uni.
15:30.13wethrinThrow together an installfest, then
15:30.32trousers_At the uni?
15:30.35cpufreakwethrin: have just prodded for approval again.
15:30.44wethrinta
15:30.49wethrintrousers_: Maybe. Or at the school
15:30.53dick_turpinHm so Arudius works here I'll take that disc home and try again
15:30.56trousers_wethrin: That's a good idea...
15:31.04trousers_School might be open on a Saturday.
15:31.16wethrinthey can open it if necessary
15:31.17trousers_I'll find out who to talk it over with, and I think we have a few spare boxes.
15:31.32trousers_Just leave post-its on them saying "Use me" :P
15:31.47wethrinmmm :)
15:32.04wethrinSo. There are a few spare Sparc64 machines up here in Durham
15:32.11trousers_I'll talk to the physics department once I get back.
15:32.18trousers_wethrin: Could they move themselves down to London?
15:32.20wethringood plan
15:32.23wethrinHmm....
15:32.41trousers_Hopefully they haven't thrown out all the stuff I had going, as it was rumoured.
15:32.49trousers_If they haven't, I can put forward a good case.
15:33.12etorixwhat, talking sparcs
15:33.37trousers_I'll start hunting through FreeCycle.
15:34.36etorixi have a german mate whod bite yer arm off for a sparc64 box
15:34.46wethrinThey're quite common, y'know
15:34.52wethrinphil hands was giving away a load on Gllug
15:35.41etorixguess they have to be in the same room as someone who wants one
15:38.35trousers_I was trying to set up a small cluster at school, but openMosix stopped.
15:39.01trousers_So the teachers got a bit pissy and there were rumours of all the kit (some of it *mine* and worthwhile me keeping0 being thrown out.
15:39.11trousers_s/0/)/
15:41.23wethrinwhatchoo got stashed?
15:48.30trousers_Assuming nothing has been touched (I should be able to peek tomorrow when I'm at school) a few old Dell machines, a switch, network cabling...
15:48.55trousers_I've only ever working witth x86 stuff, but presumably at the user level the arch doesn't do anything.
15:49.19trousers_s/tt/t/
15:50.54wethrinboring stuff, then :)
15:52.19wethrinwell, it can do things
15:52.27wethrinThe Sun hardware has support for proper serial consoles
15:52.33wethrinAnd has a forth interpreter built-in
15:53.15murbwethrin: and accidental break signals.
15:53.23wethrinsometimes
15:53.44wethrinAlthough OpenBSD ignores breaks on serial liens
15:56.54wethrinblarg. Time to go cleanroom, I think
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17:50.28boudiccasits not a bug its a feature.....http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtweaks/archives/feature.jpg
18:01.17morsingboudiccas!
18:01.35morsingwethrin: Did I show you the other Peak District photos?
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18:14.02morsinggoibhniu!
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18:16.47morsingO mighty goltor
18:16.49morsing!
18:17.53goibhniuoh cuddly morsing!
18:18.04murbdinner time.
18:18.19goibhniumorsing: great news!
18:18.45goibhniumorsing: I'm moving into a haunted house next month!
18:19.25morsinggoibhniu: O goody :)
18:19.28morsingWhy?
18:24.58goibhniubecause it's better than the rat warren we live in now!
18:25.13goibhniuit's got a broken window and everthing ... the new place!
18:31.41morsingWe? You live with SlayerXP?
18:33.41goibhniuI don't think so
18:43.47cpufreakurgh
18:44.44cpufreaksince when does ListenAddress 192.168.2.2:22 not work in sshd?
18:44.52cpufreakdo I have to give it as a sixinfour ipaddress
18:45.33morsinggoibhniu: So who do you live with? :(
18:46.48goibhniumorsing: sorry, that's private information ... I can't just blab out anything on the internet you know!
18:48.24antiphasecpufreak: You want ListenAddress and Port I reckon
18:48.34cpufreakO have a port as well
18:48.40cpufreakbut by not work I mean
18:48.43cpufreakit listens every where.
18:49.19antiphaseThat's odd
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18:50.02cpufreakactually
18:50.14cpufreakit doesn't, but just required me to kill the existing process and start a new one
18:50.22cpufreakreloading the config didn't seem to work
18:50.48antiphaseUbuntu? ;)
18:52.12cpufreakyep
18:52.27cpufreakaparently /etc/init.d/ssh restart doesn't restart it.
18:52.49cpufreakthough it claims to
18:53.38antiphasestart-stop-daemon for the massive lose
18:53.40antiphaseExim's the same
18:53.41cpufreakyeh
18:59.36wethrinmorsing: Other ones?
19:01.26goibhniumorsing: dick_turpin sent me an emote request ... what should I do?
19:01.56wethrinI tend to ignore application things
19:02.25goibhniuthanks ... I'll do that
19:06.41morsingwethrin: Yeah - I didn't realise there were two folders
19:06.47wethrinAhh
19:06.57morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/billed.php?STED=Peak_District
19:07.05morsingSame lot on the website though
19:07.17wethrinseen those ones - where the other lot
19:07.26morsinggoibhniu: Ignore it. emote is rubbish and it wasn't sent to you
19:07.39morsingwethrin: No - they're added to those
19:07.52morsingBottom half
19:08.09morsingBut it's from Sat so they're reverse order
19:08.12wethrinah
19:08.31goibhniumorsing: thanks ... was it sent by a robot?
19:10.20morsingIt's sent to everyone I think
19:10.29morsingOn his friends list as far as i understand it
19:10.43morsinggoibhniu: You haven't confirmed my details request ;-)
19:10.49goibhniuoh
19:10.58goibhniusorry ... I got bored and left it
19:11.36morsingBTW: It doesn't say on there who your GF is...
19:12.26goibhniuit's the friend who's a female
19:13.39goibhniumorsing: thanks ... and it could be true
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19:39.25morsingetorix!
19:39.35etorixsup
19:41.34etorixhad to reboot to test a new fstab writer thingie
19:46.13morsingSounds fun
19:46.42etorixwell, it works good, so it wasnt not-fun
19:54.28goibhniuso anyways ... kdenlive 0.6 is very nice
19:54.58goibhniuit's a nice upgrade for anyone using kino ... but it's not near cinelerra or blender yet
19:55.06etorixi tried kde4 on osx[86] the other week
19:55.21etorixbit big to get like
19:55.27goibhniubut very easy to use with lots of import and export options
19:55.31goibhniuuggh ... osx!
19:55.39etorixno
19:55.46goibhniuis it nice?
19:55.47etorixosx[86]
19:55.57etorixits just kde
19:56.04goibhniuoh! weird!
19:56.12etorixi didnt see much must-have
19:56.26goibhniuyeah ... I have only heard of one feature that sounded good
19:56.36goibhniubeing able to change language on the fly
19:56.54goibhniuI use a couple of languages so that is very nice for me
19:57.04etorixnot really worth building for-linux
19:57.20etorixtho i did build 64-bit, a few years ago
19:57.38goibhniunot worth building kde4?
19:57.50etorixnot for me, i can wait
19:57.55goibhniu~wtf osx[86]
19:58.02etorixheehee
19:58.21etorixwanna see?
19:58.29goibhniuplease
19:58.57goibhniuoh ... it's osx on x86?
19:59.07goibhniubut that's still osx?
19:59.14goibhniunon?
19:59.45goibhniuor is it just a clever name to defy googling
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20:02.44eto0403jHac04 CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+04 @ 2.21GHz [SSE3/PAE/XD/AMD64]04 L2 Cache: 1024K04 HT: 200MHz04 RAM: 171.1MB/1.0GB04 Virtual: 0.00M/64.00M04 Disk: 419.35GB/527.45GB04 Display: Generic NVIDIA [256 MB/CI/QE/Titan] 1280x1024@75Hz04 OS: Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218)04 Kernel: Darwin 8.10.104 Net: [04en0/04In: 160.08KB/04Out: 33.59KB]04 Uptime: 3 mins
20:03.58etorixsorry for flood, no other way really
20:04.14morsingWTF?!?!??!
20:04.32goibhniuso you run kde on osx on an amd64 ... that is very mental
20:04.57etorixi started on a mac
20:05.20etorixfound one on the pavement like
20:05.33goibhniuI hate macs
20:05.45goibhniualthough I spent a fun day once with a mac ][
20:05.53antiphasehttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
20:05.54etorixi dont like apple much
20:05.56goibhniumaking it beep
20:06.04etorixmy macs are ok tho
20:06.43goibhniumorsing: can you add antiphase's link to the topic?
20:07.07morsingLink?
20:07.17*** mode/#gllug [+o morsing] by ChanServ
20:07.21goibhniugod ... if I paste that to my collegues I'll be fired
20:07.30morsingI don't think I can change the topic...
20:07.45morsingBut I can try? What's the link about?
20:07.56morsingOh that one
20:08.07goibhniuit's very informative and on-topic
20:08.22morsingIs it?
20:08.26morsingIt's slow...
20:08.48morsingErmmm... Maybe not...
20:08.52goibhniuetorix: are you pretty new to #gllug?
20:09.00goibhniumorsing: why not?
20:09.00morsingEven though I'm sure wethrin would appriciate it
20:09.01etorixdefinitely
20:09.06goibhniucool!
20:09.08morsingetorix: #gllug sucks
20:09.15*** mode/#gllug [-o morsing] by morsing
20:09.22etorixsounds beer-ish
20:09.24morsinggoibhniu: I have to say no to that
20:09.33goibhniumorsing: you suck
20:09.41morsing;-((
20:10.18goibhniumac sympathiser!
20:10.28morsing:(
20:10.31goibhniuetorix: yes very
20:10.52goibhniua "barking channel"
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20:12.30goibhniuetorix: do you use linux for fun or for capitalism?
20:12.42etorixis linux fun
20:13.02etorixi dont get money from it
20:13.35goibhniuit's more fun when you get fat paychecks from it
20:13.50etorixheh
20:14.16etorixim in it for the sex
20:14.45clive-hI use if for fun and profit
20:14.52goibhniuah .. you should come to the next #gllug meeting!
20:14.55clive-hI'm a system admin by trade
20:15.36goibhniuI'm mostly into the freedom thing
20:16.05clive-hI use linux on my boxes at home
20:16.13clive-hIt does what I need
20:16.36etorixi do roll my own
20:16.57goibhniufancy ... slackware, linux from scratch?
20:17.03etorixnah
20:17.16clive-hAnd I was impressed by a GPL package this week which obviates me having to use proprietary software
20:17.20etorixhttp://sidux.com/
20:17.37clive-hI use Fedora
20:17.50goibhniuah .. I was wondering what sidux was
20:18.42goibhniuspicy!
20:18.50etorixi hate that bit
20:19.10goibhniulooks like a friendly distro
20:19.16goibhniuthat's always a good start
20:19.25etorixits sid tho
20:19.29etorixstill
20:20.44etorixas soon as i got a pc, i was breaking sid
20:21.18goibhniucool ... ubuntu is the closest I've ever gotten to debian
20:21.23etorixick
20:21.30goibhniuI hear fedora is nice
20:21.40goibhniuyeah ... everyone hates ubuntu these days
20:21.50clive-hI'm looking at Ubuntu under vmware on Fedora at the moment
20:21.55etorixi guess it brings lots of ppl into linux, their cd-sendout backend was great
20:22.07clive-hBut i'm not likely to move from Fedora
20:22.12goibhniuI think it turned a lot of people away from linux too
20:22.17clive-hunless F8 is really ugly
20:22.22antiphaseUbuntu is a bit grotty. It's OK on the desktop, they change too much stuff to regularly to make it nice for servers though
20:22.23etorixhes after big game tho, shutllething
20:22.47goibhniuit's nowhere near as polished as mandriva for desktop users though
20:22.50etorixand he has the nous+cash to do it
20:22.59goibhniuI guess linspire is good too
20:23.04goibhniumaybe fedora?
20:23.31clive-hThey're making strange changes to fedora 8
20:23.42clive-hThat may upset me too much
20:23.49etorixi didnt run fedora long
20:23.58goibhniuit's a pity there isn't really a viable community distro for the noob
20:24.04etorixonly ubuntu i had installed was 64-bit
20:24.31etorixi DID get em to send me a 3-platform set
20:24.47etorixbut none of the 3 line-cds booted properly
20:24.54pawelevening
20:24.54etorixlive-cds*
20:24.56clive-hthis is dual core bbut without EMt64
20:25.09clive-hSo I'm still running 32 bit
20:26.01etorix<PROTECTED>
20:26.35etorixi do have a debootstrapped 64-bit debian-amd64 from 2004, i keep running
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20:26.44goibhniumorsing:
20:27.03morsing:)
20:27.16morsing~seen flips_and_rails
20:27.21ibotflips_and_rails is currently on #gllug (5h 9m 52s), last said: 'Does anyone know of a course on web security that runs somewhere London based?'.
20:27.46goibhniugentoo amd64 is sweet
20:27.52goibhniuhassle free
20:28.02goibhniuif only the nvidia driver wasn't an arse
20:28.11etorixid of got into gentoo if they hadnt booted dan'l robbins
20:28.21goibhniuhe left
20:28.27etorixwhen he re-joined
20:28.28goibhniuI think he's back too
20:28.32etorixnah
20:28.35goibhniuoh?
20:28.38etorixthey kicked him
20:28.55goibhniuyeah?
20:28.57etorixi liked slack tho, i ran that for a good while
20:29.06goibhniuslack sounds very nice
20:29.25etorixi made install-dvds of ~current, on 56k even
20:29.44etorixusing pat's script
20:29.53goibhniuarch is incredible .. have you tried it already?
20:29.55etorixand my own-kernel
20:30.52etorixi always wanted to do a source-based, like crux or so
20:31.14etorixbut this sidux is fine, keeps me busy
20:31.35etorixso anyway
20:32.07goibhniugood good .. and lots of sex I presume
20:32.09etorixone reason i came here was to try to locate a fairly friendly uk-mirror for us
20:32.35goibhniuah, cool ... this ought to be a good place for that
20:32.37etorixw4e has some in de, one new one in us
20:33.01etorixa aus/pacific one would be nice
20:33.14etorixand actually the de ones are fast
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20:33.52etorixedu thingies
20:34.30etorixo know a guy at city uni, but hes a bit mia
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20:35.27antiphaseWhat does anyone get in return for their bandwidth and power?
20:35.40etorixill get him cornered eventually
20:35.55etorixah .. um  .. fame?
20:36.17antiphaseHeh. You might have to do a bit better than that ;)
20:36.27etorixwarm fuzzy-feeling stuph?
20:36.35antiphaseLondon is expensive for hosting right now
20:36.41etorixsure
20:36.53etorixtheres little or no panic
20:37.36etorixi was gonne get on blackcat, just as they sold up
20:38.36etorixso im still on virginmedia, till they get too annoying
20:39.15antiphaseYou want a mirror on an ADSL line?
20:39.41etorixnot really, ideally on a uni or so
20:41.36antiphaseHave you asked the University of Kent if they'll put it on mirrorservice.org?
20:41.43etorixnope
20:43.03etorixah, dont they have a sourceforge
20:43.05morsinggoibhniu!
20:43.19etorixyup, its them
20:43.24antiphasehttp://www.mirrorservice.org/Help/FeedBack/Mirror
20:43.31goibhniuhey morsing ... it's dinner time!
20:43.45morsingWahey - Susan Wilkes added me as a friend :)  Cool!
20:44.31antiphaseGood luck on getting anyone in a university to give away bandwidth unless they're a subscriber to your thing though
20:45.27etorixthey do a few
20:47.53etorixcool
20:51.36gregjspaced first season rulez
20:52.33morsinggregj!
20:59.06etorixmirror-request out
20:59.29etorixta, antiphase
21:01.26etorixi use kent sourceforge mirror mostly
21:01.35clive-has do I
21:02.53etorixThe site currently contains    9.7 TiB  
21:02.59etorixw00t
21:03.37etorixthe 15-20GB with sidux wont bring it into 10
21:13.16morsingI JUST FOUND TORBEN STEENFELDT!
21:13.27morsingI can't believe it... After so many years...
21:13.28morsing:)
21:15.00morsinggoibhniu: Are you not happy for me?
21:17.32goibhniuTorben Steenfeldt!!! OMFG!
21:18.51morsingYeah my thought exactly. Me and Bo has been trying to find this guy for almost a decade...!
21:19.12morsingI just sent him a Facebook invite via email (He's not on there).
21:19.22morsingHe'll be confused - I'm sure  ;-)
21:19.43morsingIt's the bottom guy:
21:19.44morsinghttp://www.ballastmanagement.com/
21:28.10pawelmorsing: :*
21:29.09pawelmy z is so cool :)
21:37.40morsingz?
21:38.26haliz/990?
21:38.32pawelzaurus
21:38.38pawelsl-c1000
21:38.57halioh, bilarh had one of those... sold it soon after he got it i think
21:39.03halii'd much prefer a z/990 :)
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21:39.54pawelive been listening to some streams, chatting and using fully blown citrix client over vpn for the last 5 hours
21:40.01paweland its still going
21:41.01Ch0HagAm I the onle one who thinks onion on pizza is evil?
21:41.15clive-hI like onion on pizza
21:42.48haliI like waitrose pizza
21:42.51antiphaseOnion is good whatever
21:43.05Ch0HagOnion is good, just not on pizza.
21:51.55*** join/#gllug PussInBoots (i=PussInBo@gateway/tor/x-d0564e40c0e982a3)
23:06.32Ch0HagWhy do people not talk to each other?
23:06.48Ch0HagI now have ssh-agent, gpg-agent and gnome-keyring-daemon which all do effectively the same thing.

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