IRC log for #gllug on 20070823

00:49.46*** join/#gllug clive-h (n=ch@chills.demon.co.uk)
01:20.58etorixhuh, got a mailback from Kent
04:52.23morsingetorix!
05:00.02morsingAnyone up yet? Leeds?
07:51.04morsingLeeds?
08:03.54benoystgood morning
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08:16.51morsingbenoyst!
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08:56.15morsinggoibhniu!
08:56.15morsingasht_007!
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09:22.24morsingdick_turpin!
09:24.18morsingAnyone here know a Peter Cannon?
09:25.49dick_turpinmorsing: I'll give you three guesses
09:27.15benoystmorsing: \o/
09:27.25benoyst:)
09:32.27niv_one_three\o/ - is this an egg in a glass?
09:32.40niv_one_threea beli button?
09:32.45morsingWell, I haven't got a clue and didn't recognise his photo so rejected it...
09:33.20dick_turpinmorsing: You scumbag its me you muppet
09:33.46morsingAhh... Resend it then ;-)
09:33.55morsingdick_turpin: So you're 55 years old?
09:34.03dick_turpinmorsing: It'll cost ya extra
09:34.19Ch0HagI have a captcha on this thing which has what looks like a w but is in fact two v's stuck together.
09:34.29Ch0HagWhich reminds me - why is it double-you not double-vee?
09:34.43morsingDouble-u
09:34.47morsingStupid but truwe
09:34.49morsingtrue
09:35.04dick_turpinmorsing: You bastar.... for that you must buy me something on the 21st of Sept when I will be the spritely age of 46
09:35.12morsingNice
09:35.24morsingdick_turpin: You're too old for Facebook anyway :)
09:35.36Ch0Hag46?
09:35.50dick_turpinmorsing: Youre as old as the woman you feel :-)
09:35.51Ch0HagHell you're too old for the whole intarweb thing.
09:36.07Ch0HagI thought they had some sort of bar to entry that only morons under 12 were allowed on?
09:36.24dick_turpinLook I don't need to come here to be insulted I can go home for that :-P
09:36.29bilarhch0hag: it's because we are not ze germanz
09:40.06morsingdick_turpin: So 30 then?
09:41.14dick_turpinmorsing: You know my misses or summink? she is much younger than me :-)
09:43.31bilarhyou da man :)
09:43.50bilarhwas it you on the radio the other day?
09:44.01bilarhthe guy that was 55 and was marrying an 18 year old
09:44.39dick_turpinbilarh: You agest swine
09:45.16bilarhoink oink
09:45.59bilarheasy there grand pa, think of your blood pressure ;-D
09:46.00morsingdick_turpin: I was talking about me...
09:47.22dick_turpinmorsing: Hang on while I get me zimmer frame and shuffle over to the logs so I can check what the heck we are talking about
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09:48.33dick_turpinhttp://www.mobilitybuddy.co.uk/walking-frames/280-lightweight-walking-frame
09:49.07bilarhmobility buddy, what a stupid name
09:53.49dick_turpinbilarh: Don't tempt me ;-)
09:56.49dick_turpinmorsing: So you're 30 then? from your picture I would have said 24/25 bilarh on the other hand is 337 years old :-D
09:58.58bilarhand we look exactly the same too
09:59.10bilarhexcept, i look good ;)
10:01.08morsingdick_turpin: I'm not thirty
10:01.14morsing10:34 < dick_turpin> morsing: Youre as old as the woman you feel :-)
10:01.28dick_turpinWow! I'm in the money. You are one of the 500 lucky winners chosen by Natwest to receive £500.
10:01.58bilarhplease enter your bank details on http://www.natwset.co.uk/dodgySpelling.html
10:02.33dick_turpinmorsing: I give up, you win, bugger thats 15-40 to morsing
10:02.38morsingHuh?
10:02.57dick_turpinbilarh: What? you mean its bogus?
10:03.17bilarhmorsing: psst, i think dick_turpin is trying to quit smoking, so he's even more delirious than normal at the moment
10:03.55bilarhi wish i looked like cillian de roiste, he looks cool :D
10:04.01bilarhi need to grow a beard too
10:04.13dick_turpinmorsing: I've completely lost the gist of what we are/was talking about. bilarh is probably right
10:05.58bilarhwtf: P.S. As of this moment, I haven't quite got around to sorting out anything
10:05.58bilarhas useful as somewhere to sleep on Wednesday night either, so if anyone
10:05.58bilarhhappens to have a spare bed(room) they want to offer, NOT IN AYLESBURY, all
10:05.58bilarhsuggestions will be considered.
10:06.19bilarhrandom about the aylesbury
10:06.29bilarhpost from gllug social :)
10:27.58morsingbilarh: I've got a spare room in Aylesbury
10:51.39wethrinhello
10:52.05morsingwethrin!
10:52.15morsingwethrin: What's for lunch?
10:52.25wethrindunno yet. Pub.
10:58.16morsingSounds nice
10:59.56wethrinaye
11:03.11murbeat a pub for lunch
11:03.16murbmight be a bit umuch.
11:03.25wethrinyes. I like pubs, but I couldn't eat a whole one
11:05.36morsingBlack pudding?
11:05.46wethrinno
11:05.50morsing:(
11:09.03bilarhblack pudding is the shit
11:09.12bilarhi used to love getting it in school
11:10.30morsingDanish black pudding is much better than english though
11:19.03wethrinmore blood?
12:03.54LeedsI was discussing black pudding with a colleague at lunchtime
12:14.23morsingwethrin: No idea
12:14.29morsingLeeds: Sounds nice
12:15.57morsingLeeds?
12:16.04Leedshe was considering an English breakfast - for lunch - and I pointed out that it wasn't a real one because there was no black pudding... after I explained what it was, he decided not to have the English breakfast after all
12:17.18morsingHe sounds rubbish
12:18.02Leedsuh, no
12:18.41morsingYes he does
12:19.01murbmaybe he just doesn't like proper english breakfast?
12:19.07murbbut didn't know that yet?
12:21.19morsingPeople who don't eat food after being told "what it is" are rubbish
12:22.35murbthey should eat first then ask?
12:22.39murbif they don't then know?
12:28.00gw280in gdb how d you set a breakpoint to be in a function in a shared object file linked to the program you're running?
12:35.34morsinggw280: Beer
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13:03.46morsingSlayerXP!
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13:04.38morsingXPSlammer!
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13:12.36morsingtripitaka!
13:12.45tripitakamorsing: hello
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13:16.58morsingcatalyst!
13:17.12catalystmorsing!
13:20.47morsingHow are you? (And please don't dissapear after 3 minutes!)
13:21.36catalystI'm alright thanks! I'm technically at work though so if I disappear all the time that's why :)
13:22.42morsing:)
13:24.20morsingSounds nice
13:24.38catalyst'tis a good tune
13:24.47catalystthe series it comes from is awesome too
13:25.04morsing0
13:25.26catalyst5
13:26.23phearlessi'm listening to django reinhardt
13:26.27phearlessit's cool too :)
13:26.30morsingBeer
13:32.14niv_one_threeI so much agree morsing
13:39.37morsingSoudns ncie
13:49.55morsingStrawberry
13:51.00morsingwethrin?
13:52.54morsingLeeds: Am I invited?
13:57.59morsingLeeds: You're sort of into music stuff right?
13:59.03morsingLeeds?
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14:06.55morsingblight!
14:07.17morsingLeeds?
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14:19.59morsingPussInBoots!
14:24.08morsingDoes a console text based MSN client exist?
14:25.12halicentericq
14:26.41goibhniumorsing: gaim
14:26.48bilarhi thought it was dead anyway (centericq)
14:26.53bilarhpidgin has a text mode client also
14:26.57bilarhbut i can't remember what it's called
14:27.07goibhniuor yeah ... pidgin !
14:30.15antiphasebitlbee
14:31.15tripitakapebrot's a nice ncurses msn client
14:46.54morsinggoibhniu: Not text based
14:47.09goibhniu'tis
14:47.10morsingThanks
14:47.28goibhniubut I hear it's a bit buggy
14:47.39morsingNo it's not
14:48.20benoystniv_one_three: no, \o/ means: a head, 2 arms => a huuug ! :)
14:48.42morsingemil:~# apt-cache search pebrot
14:48.42morsingemil:~# apt-cache search pidgin
14:48.42morsingemil:~#
14:48.48benoyst(yes, I do lag a bit these days)
14:48.50morsingAnother guess?
14:49.19benoystmorsing: bitlee ? or something  like this ?
14:49.34morsingBitlee sucks
14:49.45goibhniumorsing: gaim-text?
14:50.44benoystmorsing: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html or see http://freshmeat.net/projects/tmsnc/ ?
14:51.52morsingWhat's UIN?
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14:53.17morsingbilarh_!
14:53.26morsingIt's trying to connect but nothing happens
14:53.43morsingIt's dead now
14:54.40morsingHelp
14:57.56antiphaseBitlbee WFM, especially with irssi and screen
15:08.46goibhniu~wft wfm
15:08.55goibhniu~wtf wfm
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15:30.09phearlessa question for the uber-geeks
15:30.11phearlessWhat can I do with a Sun Enterprise 250 Server that does not display anything on the screen, can be pinged, but no sshd/telnetd ?
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15:33.37murbphearless: offer it for sale on ebay as "untested"
15:34.30phearlesshehe :)
15:34.49phearlessshould I open it and look if the graphic card is not burned ?
15:34.49Ch0HagWoo new case.
15:35.03Ch0HagAnybody want a beaten up (litirally) old case?
15:39.03phearlessarg, I am ignored :(
15:39.57antiphasePlug in a keyboard
15:40.09antiphasethen reboot
15:40.46antiphaseIf nothing else you can do everything console-wise over the serial port that you could with ssh or telnet
15:43.25Ch0HagI don't know what you're talking about, but opening things up is always fun.
15:45.44Ch0HagSo nobody wants an old case?
15:46.14Ch0HagComes with 300W PSU and multiple dents, all for no extra charge.
15:46.40Ch0HagThe cover even fits.
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15:51.18phearlessantiphase:  serial port -> good idea
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16:04.09tripitakaI have a new vista 64 bit laptop from work (mixed yay and boo). What is the *best* way of getting it to dual boot to linux?
16:04.51Ch0Haggrub?
16:04.56Copeget a modern distro, stick the media in the drive, boot off it, follow the instructions
16:05.00antiphaseHow many ways could there be? ;)
16:05.31Copeubuntu, suse, mandriva etc all have very easy installers which will work this out for you
16:06.17tripitakaok, I'll give ubuntu a go
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16:06.55tripitakamind you, I installed feisty over an XP system and wiped the XP
16:07.06Copelayer 8 problem
16:07.18tripitakaand I'm pretty sure I didn't click the 'delete all your games' button
16:07.27tripitakamoney, politics or people?
16:07.56Ch0HagYou probably selected the 'use the entire disc' rather than the 'use free space' option, or some such.
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16:08.45tripitakaI got fbsd, NT4 and slackware booting off lilo, and that was more trouble than it was worth. But if the ubuntu etc installer is trustworthy I'll give it a go
16:12.12Ch0HagGrub is *much* easier to set up than lilo.
16:12.22Ch0HagAnd I think everything uses it now.
16:12.26Ch0HagCertainly ubuntu does.
16:47.08morsingCh0Hag!
16:47.16Ch0HagYes?
16:47.45Ch0HagDo you know how I can reload .screenrc without quitting screen?
16:47.56Ch0HagOr execute abitrary commands.
16:50.06morsingSo - can someone tell me how to *use* centericq?
16:50.22Copeit's not difficult
16:50.44Copethere's an informative manual page, help system, and tutorial. iirc
16:51.00Copei used it for years before moving to irssi/bitlbee
16:51.55Ch0HagAh!
16:51.58Ch0HagC-a :
16:53.24morsingCope: Well, I barely understand MSN so it *is* difficult and it just hangs when I start it up
16:54.35morsingCope: The man page is rubbish
16:54.42morsingHave you actually looked at it?
16:55.01Ch0HagI seem to recall getting certericq to work by just running the binary.
16:55.15Ch0HagI don't think it was very good, but it worked.
16:55.22morsingIt hangs
16:55.52morsingYou have to understand that I don't understand messaging!
16:56.00Ch0HagNice.
16:56.20morsingOk, from the beginning:
16:56.43morsingIs a client supposed to connect to anything and if so, how does it know what to connect to?
16:58.22gw280COPE
16:58.55Copemorsing: ok; it's been a while...
16:59.17Copewell... firstly, if you use yicoc + bitlbee I can help you much more immediately
16:59.22Copehello george
17:00.19tripitakaI had to use msn via three ssh hops and a satellite link, and the only useable client I found was pebrot
17:00.38morsingOk, bitlbee installing, it's asking for port?
17:01.02tripitakadidn't try bitlbee though
17:01.05antiphase6667 I expect, as it's used via IRC
17:01.27antiphaseThe whole point being that it presents as an IRC server on localhost
17:01.45morsingRight, it's installed
17:01.46Ch0HagFinch, incidentally, runs in a terminal but can be configured as it's GUI counterpart.
17:02.00Ch0HagWhich used to be gaim and is now, for some insane reason, pidgin.
17:02.12antiphaseAOL spat the dummy
17:04.43morsingHow do I start this thing then?
17:05.29antiphaseRTFM. You can run it as a daemon or out of x?inetd
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17:06.22morsingantiphase: Watch it
17:06.25morsingcatalyst!
17:06.48catalystyarr
17:06.50catalystI be pirate
17:06.53morsingOk, it's not displaying any of my friends...
17:08.08morsingThis thing is obviously broken
17:08.54morsingCope: Google knows not of yicoc
17:09.00Copeheh
17:09.20Copemorsing: you're using debian?
17:09.26morsingYes
17:09.53Copeok
17:10.06Copeso point yiccoc to localhost
17:10.18z00daxCope: !
17:10.37morsingyiccoc?
17:10.51Copeyour irc client of choice
17:10.52Copethen:
17:10.55Copehttp://www.princessleia.com/bitlbee.php
17:10.56z00daxcatalyst: hey
17:10.56morsingdone
17:11.08morsingCope: She doesn't do anything for me
17:12.17morsingCope: Will it be able to see all my old connections on there?
17:13.18morsingIt says unknown command register
17:16.27morsingNope - I've logged in to MSN now but all my contacts are gone
17:17.14Copeintriguing
17:17.20antiphaseAre any of them online?
17:18.14morsingIt's probably more deep rooted than that. Most likely I've done somethign wrong...
17:26.46morsingI give up...
17:29.25Copequitter
17:29.27Cope:P
17:29.31CopeI do perl now
17:29.51etorixhey cool kent went for it
17:30.13etorixsince 1.30pm
17:30.17etorixOk
17:30.17etorixhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/sidux.com/sidux/
17:30.17etorixftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/sidux.com/sidux/
17:30.17etorixrsync://rsync.mirrorservice.org/sidux.com/sidux/
17:30.50etorixthat wasnt hard at all
17:32.03etorixhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/Welcome
17:33.50Ch0Hag29.12.99 (...some headline...)
17:33.50Ch0Hag30.12.99 (...some headline...)
17:33.51Ch0Hag02.01.100 Success! No Y2K bugs!
17:33.59catalyst:D
17:34.04morsingcatalyst!
17:34.07catalystmorsing!
17:41.48etorixshit a brick, its fast
17:42.26etorix(5.15 MB/s) .. haha .. measured from sidux.com
17:42.37etorixsheesh
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17:55.37morsingadd What's "connection"?
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18:12.31z00daxmylesbraithwaite: watchout!
18:12.45mylesbraithwaitefor what?
18:14.55murbincoming missles
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18:21.43morsinggoltor!
18:21.52morsingIt works now...
18:22.51goltorhello
18:25.53morsingmylesbraithwaite: How are you?
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18:39.34morsinggoibhniu!
18:40.05goibhniumorsing: how are you feeling?
18:40.11morsingGreat :)
18:40.29morsingYou?
18:40.58goibhniufair
18:41.17morsing:(
18:41.34goibhniubut I'm eating a grapefruit ... I love grapefruit!
18:42.18morsingNot Lemon? Like TwoSheds?
18:43.28goibhniulemon is good but nothing beats grapefruit
18:44.03goibhniuhave you heard the news about con kolivas?
18:44.10goibhniuit's depressing
18:44.12goibhniuoh?
18:44.34morsingSomeone texted me about her nan. Not the best
18:44.37etorixhes gone back to rl
18:44.39goibhniublood clots are nasty
18:44.49goibhniuetorix: ck?
18:44.54goibhniuyep
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18:44.57etorixck is no more
18:45.00morsingchris-!
18:45.17goibhniuhe got bored, and nobody cared
18:45.28etorixhe wasnt that bored
18:45.32goibhniuI never realised how important the scheduling thing was
18:45.41etorixjust fucking linus+ingo
18:45.50goibhniuand am too I believe
18:45.59goibhniuthe whole gang of them
18:46.04morsingWhen's Leeds' evening in London?
18:46.12etorixhe got bored fighting them
18:46.37goibhniuand those kernel devs don't seem to give a shit about desktop users
18:46.47pawel:>
18:46.50pawelevening.
18:47.20goibhniupawel: has anyone ever told you? ... you have a very pointy chin!
18:47.44clive-hI'm friends with a kernevl developer
18:47.56goibhniudoes s/he hate desktops?
18:48.03clive-hand I dispute they don't care about desktops
18:48.15pawelgoibhniu: nope :>
18:48.17clive-hHe works for RedHat
18:48.27pawelredhat
18:48.28pawel:>
18:48.36goibhniuahh ... was he the guy who gave the talk about system tap?
18:48.47goibhniujohn ... something?
18:48.52clive-hno
18:48.53goibhniuthat was a great talk
18:48.56goibhniuoh :D
18:48.56clive-hdavey jones
18:49.00pawelI wonder how they are doing at the moment
18:49.25goibhniuso do you have any inside scandal on ck?
18:49.27morsingIT'S WEDNESDAY!
18:49.43etorixi know con, yeah
18:49.58clive-hI don't know any scandel
18:50.35morsingI wonder if he's going to take me up on my accomodation offer
18:51.02etorixcon is online
18:51.14etorixnot sure hes awake tho
18:51.24etorixhes in aus , like
18:51.30goibhniuyou can send him my love
18:51.50etorix--> You are now talking on #ck
18:51.50etorix--- Topic for #ck is http://kernel.kolivas.org ; wiki: http://ck.wikia.com ; stable and last ever release: 2.6.22-ck1
18:52.43Ch0Hag[How] Can you stop Linux from fscking because you've committed the heinous crime of mounting a filesystem too many times?
18:53.03etorixi think u can set that
18:53.27clive-hyou can yes
18:53.33clive-htune2fs
18:53.34morsingclive-h!
18:54.34etorixTo disable time dependent fscking, you would run something like this:
18:54.34etorixCode:
18:54.34etorixtune2fs -i0 /dev/sda1
18:54.45etorixor so
18:55.01halior set the fs_passno in fstab to 0
18:55.09etorixi kinda like fs-checking tho
18:55.27etorix0  0 , yeah
18:55.41etorix0  2 checks
18:56.28Ch0HagI want it to fsck if the fs needs it, just not because I've mounted it too much.
18:56.35Ch0HagI don't ever recall that picking up a problem.
18:56.52Ch0HagAnd the computer in question is nowhere near important enough for it to matter if it did.
18:57.02etorixext3 fsck's every xty mounts
18:59.29hali-i0 and -c0 will switch it off but that sounds a bit dangerous... at least keep time based checking
18:59.45etorixim still half on reiserfs, i only do new partitions ext3
19:00.33halii only use resierfs for non-volotile data... caching etc
19:00.51haliit's pretty speedy for a squid cache
19:01.06etorixi tested jfs again last month , seemed ok
19:01.18etorixxfs seems buggy
19:01.45etorixhans reiser court case keeps being delayed
19:02.01halii'm looking forward to testing brtfs properly
19:02.38clive-hI keep meaning to play with oc2fs
19:03.16Ch0HagNo need.
19:03.16Ch0HagIf the system gets that screwed up I'll just install it again.
19:03.16Ch0HagOr, perhaps, use it as an excuse to bin the thing and buy a new one.
19:15.52Leedsooh, nice thundering outside
19:16.49etorixo rilly
19:16.56pawelLeeds: :>
19:16.58pawelLeeds: hello
19:17.33gw280LALALALA
19:56.31morsingibot yubnub
19:56.46morsingLeeds: Are you staying over then?
20:01.27morsingLeeds?
20:06.21morsingHey - what do I need to do to MSN users so they can't see me?
20:07.28morsingHello?
20:22.41pawelmorsing: "Show as Offline"
20:22.42pawel;>
20:23.26morsingpawel: No - "remove"
20:24.30pawel;>
20:24.32pawelhyhy
21:08.55rhowemorsing: "block"?
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21:29.37Ch0Hag"Joint Committee Investigates Marijuana Use" -- A local newspaper of a suburb of Toronto, describing a committee set up by the board of education and the local municipality to investigate marijuana use among high school students.
21:30.07pawelJoint Committee :>
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