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00:36.55clive-hOoobh
00:37.11clive-hI wanna job supporting this : http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/08/26/1735203.shtml
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07:51.05morsingchris-!
07:53.19morsing'morning Leeds - How are you? Still productive? ;-)
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08:15.59morsinggoibhniu!
08:45.39goibhniuhay morsing!
08:45.52goibhniuany word on carly's card?
08:49.43andrew___morning morsing
08:53.10morsinggoibhniu: Nope - she's gotta be the coldest person I've ever known. Amd it's not normally in her - she's always been a warm caring person. Talk about personality transformation
08:54.43niv_one_threeI just dont understand why the cups+samba doesnt work for me
08:55.20niv_one_threeany good FAQ for samba someone may recomend? I mean , I did read the man and configed it..
09:13.14goibhniumorsing: humans can be unreliable
09:24.33morsingThis is crap :(
09:25.19morsinggoibhniu: The two referees I need on y citizenship application, one a personal reference, the other an official like doctor, solicitor, etc
09:25.40morsingThe guide says *both* must have known me *personally* for more than three years!
09:25.47morsingI'll never be able to apply :(
09:26.19morsingLeeds: Are you a doctor?
09:27.28goibhniudave harlow?
09:27.52morsingI don't know him personally and have only met him twice over the last year or two :(
09:27.57morsingThis suck :(
09:27.58morsings
09:32.26morsingI'm sorry but is that not a completely unreasonable requirement? I mean, that everyone applying for citizenship *must* have a personal friend that's a doctor?
09:33.33goibhniuI think you fail the citizenship test if you sit it
09:34.02morsing:(
09:34.32goibhniuwhat english person would ever go abroad, learn the language, adapt to the culture and want to become a citizen?
09:34.54goibhniuit's proof that you're not english at all
09:35.01morsing:(
09:35.47niv_one_threewhy does it take so much time to compile cups ?
09:36.55morsingniv_one_three: You don't "compile" cups. You bake them. At 180 degrees for 3-4 hours
09:39.34morsinghttp://42explore.com/pottery.htm
11:01.55goibhniuhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs .... word of the day "iDiots"
11:02.10Leedsmorsing: there's a similar test for a new passport
11:03.03Leedsmorsing: how long have you been in the UK?
11:08.47gregjages
11:33.02morsingLeeds: 5.2 years
11:42.57Leedsand there are no professionals whom you've known for 3 years?
11:43.31gregjprofessionals or doa doctor
11:44.01Leedsthey don't have to be close friends or anything - just people who are a) professionals, b) can vouch for your identify and c) met you for the first time at least 3 years ago
11:45.22Leedsuh, identity
11:49.21gw280moo
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11:53.33morsinggeoserver!
11:54.01morsingLeeds: Are you sure? Well, I don't even think I know anyone like that...
11:54.22geoserveryawn
11:54.27geoserverjust woke up
11:55.56AnneC_morsing, don't you have a therapist ;-)
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12:10.50Leedsassuming that nobody here is her... does anyone know Fatma?
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12:13.14Leedshttp://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2006-November/063974.html
12:14.27goibhniuwas that ignored?
12:15.58Leedsnope, there were a couple of replies, but she didn't really follow up on it
12:17.05Leedsshe's obviously lurking on the social list, since she's offered me somewhere to stay - it's a very kind offer, but I wanted to know if anyone had met her, before I make plans to stay at a complete stranger's place for the night
12:18.03rhoweLeeds: No idea who (s)he is
12:19.55Leedshmm...
12:20.27geospartI am buying a house soon .... you can stay with me in the ddep south
12:23.25Leedshow soon? ;-)
12:23.40Leedsand for that matter, how south?  not of-the-river, one would assume...
12:26.34rhoweLeeds: Ah, you might know
12:26.49rhoweLeeds: Is there anywhere I can buy fibre patch leads in London, retail?
12:26.53rhoweLeeds: On a bank holiday monday?
12:28.05gregjLeeds: or you can try one of b&b places in cambridge, for 25 quid a night :>
12:29.24Leedspc world, maplins?
12:29.48rhoweLeeds: No and no
12:30.21rhoweMaplin have precisely one kind of fibre patch lead, and PC World have none
12:30.26goibhniuLeeds: there are also often short lets available on gumtree
12:31.28Leedsgoibhniu: I'm after a borrowed bed/sofa for one night!
12:31.29geospartdeep american south
12:31.33geospartNorth Carolina
12:32.08goibhniuLeeds: if I had one to lend you'd be welcome to it
12:34.16Leedsgeospart: I'll keep it in mind...
12:34.20Leedsgoibhniu: thanks :-)
12:47.52Leedsokay, situation sorted...
12:49.50morsingAnneC_: I do but I've only known her a few months
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12:58.23Ch0HagIs it possible to download windows 3 from anywhere?
12:58.45Ch0HagI was sure I had a copy somewhere but it seems to have disappeared.
13:00.28haliso hm, bank holiday is it
13:01.11morsingYes
13:01.13Ch0HagSupposedly.
13:02.18halibetter be off to the pub then
13:02.18haliburger and beer by the river, sounds like a plan
13:02.21haliCh0Hag: you can download the "windows-all-in-one" dvd thing... torrent with all windows/dos versions
13:03.52Ch0HagWhat's the difference between the GB and US releases of DOS 6.22?
13:04.03Ch0HagDefault kb map or something more exciting?
13:05.40halihm, could be the drive compression tool
13:06.05haliwith regards to the whole doublespace vs. stacker law suite.... and they came out with drivespace instead
13:06.14morsing<PROTECTED>
13:06.44Ch0HagMeh it's a moot point. My US version seems to be broken anyway.
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13:11.30Ch0HagWasn't that a dos 5 argument?
13:12.58halidoublespace?
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13:13.52Ch0HagDa.
13:14.08morsingaguaithefreak!
13:14.23halino, doublespace was introduced in dos 6.0, stripped out in 6.21 and dos 6.22 came with drivespace... if memory serves
13:17.34Ch0HagOh.
13:18.14Ch0HagWell either way it was crap.
13:18.20Ch0HagAs if it wasn't slow enough already...
13:21.04xotlcan anyone recommend a good free imap email service?
13:21.38Ch0Hag$your_computer
13:22.20xotli prefer one that someone has already set up for me
13:22.45Ch0Hag$your_computer_after_giving_me_cash
13:22.47xotli think using aol might lose me some street cred
13:23.00Ch0HagA touch, yes.
13:23.11xotlCh0Hag: that rather defeats the point of a free email service
13:23.39xotlaol would be fine if their webmail bit wasnt retarded, and apparently not work in firefox
13:25.05Ch0HagI know of none off the top of my head.
13:25.09Ch0HagWhat about your ISP?
13:25.11Ch0HagOr is your ISP AOL?
13:26.18xotlno my isp only have pop access, i want to try imap as it syncs up nicely
13:30.14Ch0HagWell I know of none then.
13:30.20Ch0HagThat's the sort of thing I do myself.
13:31.33xotlnp. out of interest, what do you use for the webmail interface?
13:32.34Ch0HagI don't, personally.
13:32.44Ch0HagI recently installed IMAP at a client where I used IMP.
13:32.49Ch0HagThey seem to like it.
13:33.03xotlimp is a web interface?
13:33.19Ch0HagYes.
13:33.23Ch0HagBased on horde.
13:34.00xotlhow did you decide on imp? did you evaluate several?
13:34.25halii quite like roundcube
13:34.25Ch0HagNope.
13:34.35Ch0HagI just new that squirrel, which I'd used previously, was slow.
13:35.01haliroundcube is a proper imap web client, sort of ajaxy
13:35.14Ch0HagI've seen it.
13:35.16xotli think i heard of roundcube
13:35.32Ch0HagI don't know whether it's any good, though.
13:35.35Ch0HagI know it's not emacs.
13:36.03xotlit looks quite smart on their website
13:36.44gregjhttp://fun.noshit.pl/getit.php?id=25234
13:36.48gregjit is so sad, it is funny
13:36.54Ch0HagBah I need a 486.
13:37.12Ch0HagThis scsi disc I'm preparing for an ancient computer won't boot and I don't know if it's just the BIOS trying to be clever.
13:37.45haliyou got a scsi card with a bios?
13:37.55haliso it hooks in to that 0x80 thingy
13:38.58Ch0HagDa.
13:39.10Ch0HagBut here I have a PCI card, where there they'll have an old ISA one.
13:39.21Ch0HagSo this one is probably being too clever.
13:39.50Ch0HagDOS sees it when it's booted off a floppy, but it won't boot itself.
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13:44.35niv_one_threedoes anyone here have any expirince with video conferancing?
13:44.54niv_one_threeI know of Ekiga , any other option?
13:50.21gregjhttp://fun.noshit.pl/getit.php?id=25251
13:50.21gregj:D
14:03.04gregjhttp://gj.pointblue.com.pl/fun/pepsi.mpeg
14:04.55Ch0HagI hate floppies.
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14:41.21morsingLeeds!
14:42.32morsingFloppies are brilliant
14:50.04Leedsthat's what *she* said!
14:53.57benoysthello everyone
14:55.39Leedsevening benoyst
14:56.32Ch0HagBrilliant at what?
15:04.20xotlpacked your bags yet, leeds?
15:23.47Leedsnearly
15:25.04Leedsand it's less than 24 hours to the flight, so I can 'check in' online :-)
15:26.56Ch0HagWtf??
15:27.06Ch0HagThey still SELL pkzip??
15:27.25xotlwhat exactly is check-in? i thought it was just to check that you were actually at the airport
15:27.49Ch0HagYeah, except now you can check in before without actually being at the airport.
15:27.56Leedsit means you've confirmed your seat
15:28.33xotlbut you could check in online and then not turn up, so how does the non-present confirmation work?
15:28.38Leedsyou still need to deposit your bags somewhere, but you can confirm your seat and get your boarding pass
15:28.42xotli mean how does it help the airline?
15:28.58Leedsyou can check in in person then not go through customs/security, or not get on the plane, etc.
15:29.14Leedsalso, HK has a very very good in-town check-in anyway
15:29.40gregjxotl: it is all designed to make us even more lazy
15:30.01LeedsI don't remember the last time I used a check-in desk at the airport in HK
15:30.24xotlgregj: well i remember not so long ago the check in was about 3 hours before the flilght and had tobe in person
15:30.37xotla complete bore
15:30.43Leedsyour bags travel on the train separately from you and get on the plane all by themselves
15:30.54gregjgrow legs ?
15:30.56gregj;)
15:31.01Leedswheels, I think
15:31.04xotlleeds: wouldnt that reduce security?
15:31.08Ch0HagI think it helps the airline because they can say "Look! We understand teh Intarweb!"
15:31.19xotlsending bags separately
15:31.26gregjthem pipes
15:31.31Leedsand my upgrade is confirmed :-D
15:31.45xotlyou get to sit next to the pilot?
15:31.48Leedsxotl: it still goes through all the scanners
15:31.50gregjbussiness class ?
15:32.19Leedspremium economy
15:32.19xotlleeds: yeah but tieing the person to the baggage must be a better idea
15:32.58gregjLeeds: what's the difference ?
15:33.24Leedsgregj: bigger seats, mainly
15:33.33Leeds2-3-2 on a 747 rather than 3-4-3
15:33.36xotlpremium economy you put you next to the exits for a quick escape
15:33.52gregjI was on it while flying to canada
15:34.01gregjit was nice
15:34.19gregjnot a bussiness class, but not bad either
15:34.30Leedsthis is the first time I've tried the print-your-own-boarding-card option...
15:34.57xotlalter the text so it says first class
15:35.41Leedsit's got a bar code on it :-(
15:35.48Leedsalso, my printer is a bit buggered
15:36.25xotljust say that you printer got the bar code widths wrong, cos  the driver doesnt work well under linux
15:37.41Leedsdoesn't seem to reset properly after a job, so I need to manually reset each time
15:42.42Leedsalso, could b that the colour cartridge is dead and/or dry
15:43.15Leedsoh no, that looks rather spiffy, actually
16:00.26Leedsand my UK SIM is still active, until I cancel it next week... good
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16:48.54niv_one_threemmmmmm
16:49.34niv_one_threeooooo
16:49.45niv_one_threeuuuuuuu
17:04.40Leedsffffff
17:06.06Ch0Hag0x
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18:05.33morsingetorix!
18:05.36morsingwethrin
18:06.55etorixe
18:07.48etorixok, 4 mirrors added since i got onto it
18:08.01etorixkent is sure fancy
18:08.29etorixas the go like
18:08.43etorixas they go*
18:09.03etorixhttp://sidux.com/Article303.html
18:09.24etorixhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/sidux.com/sidux/
18:10.29etorixi still want jp/kr , and maybe MIT
18:15.13etorix2 in us is fine  tho
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19:07.29morsingmylesbraithwaite!
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20:10.22morsingping goibhniu
20:46.30morsingAnyone awake?
20:52.50antiphaseNo
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21:01.43halioink you geeks, http://geekologie.com/2007/03/axe-towel-01.jpg
21:04.44morsingclive-h!
21:04.56clive-hlo
21:09.48gregjhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywLhNwSBizE&feature=dir
21:18.28gregjhttp://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&mode=related&search=
21:18.43gregjworthles :)
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