IRC log for #gllug on 20070914

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04:24.07morsingetorix!
06:52.39gregjbeware,
06:52.40gregj;)
06:52.51Ch0Hagshhhhh!
06:52.53Ch0HagSleeping.
07:10.50andrew__1hi there. How can I get vi to not indent text when I hit return
07:13.27morsingandrew__1: How do I get VI to jump to where I was last when I open a file?
07:34.02Leedsandrew__1: vi or vim?
07:37.20serrishi morsing, Leeds
07:38.29morsingserris!
07:38.38morsingLeeds: Same thing
07:43.26andrew__1Leeds: actaully vim
07:50.24Leedsmorsing: they are *not* the same time
07:50.38Leedsandrew__1: does ":set noindent" help?
07:51.49Leedssorry...
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07:52.11Leedsandrew__1: do ":set smartindent?" and ":set cindent?" to see which of the different indent settings might be on
07:53.34morsinggoibhniu!
07:53.55morsingLeeds: And what about my question?
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07:57.52andrew__1morsing: in your logic system, any answer will be true. Becuase if you assert then vim=vi then and statement can be deduced
07:58.40andrew__1My one is :set noautoindent
08:00.01andrew__1Most of the time it is useful, but if you cut and paste indented code it is not .....
08:05.17andrew__1Leeds: thanks for the hint.
08:05.24andrew__1day job time......
08:06.39Leedsandrew__1: investigate the paste option :-)
08:21.33halivi + filename will jump the the last line
08:25.10Leedshali: it's a non-default setting which may have been set default in a particular distro
08:26.20haliwhat is?
08:26.35halithe indent stuf, that is annoying set
08:27.00SlayerXPyou can always just "<esc>:set paste" to make sure
08:27.05haliyes
08:31.10morsingBeer
08:33.26morsingSlayerXP!
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08:38.38morsinghuw-l!
08:38.47morsingSlayerXP: How are you today?
08:39.16SlayerXPmorsing: I twisted my knee whilst playing badminton last night, so somewhat in pain
08:39.27morsingSounds fun
08:39.52morsingI'm playing tennis tonight
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08:40.05morsingmikejw!
08:40.08mikejwheelo
08:40.13morsingSlayerXP: How's the job hunting?
08:40.40SlayerXPmorsing: I have two offers on the table, and I'm _hoping_ to get another offer today
08:40.51morsingAny from VISA?
08:40.55SlayerXPno
08:42.48morsingAny in Aylesbury?
08:45.43SlayerXPof course not, why would I work outside london? :)
08:46.20haliall the fun stuff is in London
08:48.12Leedsbah
08:50.54mikejwhi Leeds :]
08:50.55ProvitoSlayerXP where do you play badminton?
08:51.15mikejwLeeds: did you ever get around to trying Slackintosh?
08:51.35SlayerXPProvito: at a couple of clubs, the public one is in the Peter May sports centre just near Walthamstow on thursdays and sundays
08:51.43Leedsmikejw: sure - ran it for quite a while on a mac mini which is in storage now
08:52.26mikejwI'm trying to convince my friend let me put it on his iBook
08:52.44ProvitoSlayerXP, I was playing yesterday as well, I play at the Selby centre in Harringey
08:52.46Leedsnever used it interactively, and it did have one or two issues, but it worked fine
08:53.56ProvitoSlayerXP, looking to get a new racket a top notch yukon one. Just trying to work out which I fancy
08:54.25SlayerXPProvito: I recently bought a yonex nanospeed, it's lovely
08:54.37Provitosorry I meant yonex haha
08:54.50Provitonot sure where yukon came from :|
08:55.08SlayerXPProvito: http://www.pwp.com/badmintonrackets.asp?id=2&cat=Yonex%20badminton%20rackets  
08:55.14SlayerXPthe 9000x there, in fact.
08:55.15mikejwLeeds: how do you mean 'interactively'?
08:55.56ProvitoSlayerXP, looks nice, expensive though
08:56.22ProvitoSlayerXP, I've just got a crappy wilson racket at the mo, I wonder how much a better racket will help my play
08:56.31Leedsmikejw: like desktoply as opposed to headlessly
08:57.00mikejwrighty
08:57.11SlayerXPProvito: a lighter raquet with more bounce will help you hit more accurately and firmly
08:57.20SlayerXPless shoulder motion required
08:57.22ProvitoI'm a smasher so that racket looks a good one
08:57.31ProvitoSlayerXP, I knocked the net over with my smash the other week!
08:58.03SlayerXPProvito: well, that's no use. :)
08:58.47ProvitoDid you get your racket from that site? does it come with a bag?
09:03.27morsingSlayerXP: Have you ever tried squash?
09:03.46SlayerXPmorsing: yes, I was never very good at it
09:06.36morsingIt's difficult then? Taxing?
09:07.41Leedstax is very difficult
09:07.52morsingI know - that's why I asked
09:09.13Leeds"I think I'm a hunter-gatherer... I just think I'm a hunter, I don't know if I'm a gatherer - not very tidy"
09:10.26morsingBeer
09:11.08ProvitoSlayerXP, do you use feather or synthetic when you play?
09:11.33SlayerXPProvito: synth.  
09:12.33Provitosame, I've been using the mavis 300 but am going to get the mavis 370 fast next.
09:12.42ProvitoI can't stand playing with a slow shuttle
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09:28.24morsingtripitaka!
09:29.09tripitakahello
09:29.12morsingCoffee?
09:33.06tripitakaplease
09:38.41goibhniumorsing: yes
09:42.01morsingHere you go
09:43.18goibhniuta
09:43.25Ch0HagCan you continue lines with \ in /etc/exports?
09:44.11morsingCh0Hag: Probably
09:44.16morsingTry it?
09:45.51Ch0HagYeah I just don't want to kill my NFS server.
09:45.59ProvitoHmm I didn't realise there was .coop registered names
09:46.02Ch0HagIt has /home and I have enough trouble with it as it is.
09:46.12LeedsCh0Hag: why do you want to split it?
09:46.20Ch0HagBecause it has very long, ugly lines.
09:46.38Leedshow often does anyone human read those lines?
09:46.59Ch0HagIdeally I'd like (group-of-IP-ranges)(options) rather than many instances of (ip-range)(options), where options are always the same.
09:47.10Ch0HagThen most of the ugliness would be gone.
09:47.22Ch0HagI just like things to look good however often I have to read them!
09:48.11LeedsI understand that - but I wouldn't risk losing /home for the sake of it :-)
09:49.26morsingFrom the man page:
09:49.27morsingEntries may be continued across newlines  using  a backslash.
09:55.30morsingCh0Hag?
09:56.11Ch0HagExcellent.
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10:02.00polyunixmorning all
10:03.32tripitakacan anyone recommend a good 'looking glass' app to install locally?
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10:04.35goibhniuwhat is looking glass?
10:05.01tripitakaa tool for querying routing tables on routers
10:06.45Ch0Hagroute(8)?
10:07.36morsingpolyunix!
10:07.48morsingshai!
10:07.59shaihi
10:08.01polyunixgoibhniu>: do you know that AMD are going to fix their fglrx-drv and i might be able to install compiz on my toshiba!
10:08.12antiphaseWhy do you need a looking glass? Setting up in the ISP industry? :)
10:08.38goibhniupolyunix: I heard rumours ... fingers crossed!
10:09.21goibhniupolyunix: I believe they already have a new driver that may even work ... and they're opening their 2d driver ... I think
10:10.05polyunixthey missed deadline this month. otherwise it could be available here and now!
10:10.27tripitakanah, I'd like an internal web page I can use to query my routers
10:10.46goibhniuexciting!
10:10.49polyunixyeah
10:12.11goibhniupolyunix: I've never had the pleasure of owning an ati card, but if it's any consolation I've had some rough times with nvidia too
10:12.57Ch0HagATI cards are retarded.
10:13.11Ch0HagUnfortunately I don't know whether they're more or less retarded than nvidia cards.
10:14.06polyunixi installed mandriva for my brother-in-law with nvidia on board. 3-D -out of the box! couple of glitches thought but still impressive
10:15.19Ch0HagAre there any services like mailinator.net (which is down) so I can get my download instructions via spammail?
10:15.23polyunixCh0Hag>: wich card is your weapon of choice?
10:15.41Ch0HagSorry email. Silly of me to assume people ask for my email address to spam me.
10:16.00Ch0HagMy desktop has a 9adeon 9200.
10:16.03Ch0Hagradeon
10:16.14Ch0HagAnd a 3d rage 2 without 3d.
10:17.49Ch0HagThat's the most recent radeon supported by the Free driver.
10:19.04Leedsnot true
10:19.14Leedsthe r300 driver is considered stable nowadays AFAIK
10:19.42Ch0HagOh?
10:19.47Ch0HagWell it wasn't when I bought the card.
10:20.02Ch0HagAnyway *this* driver isn't particularly stable.
10:20.17Ch0HagOr the card.
10:21.00shaihey Leeds :)
10:21.07Ch0HagHmm.
10:21.17Leedsshai! shava tova :-)
10:21.31shaithanks richard... happy new year.
10:21.44Ch0HagApply for email address. Confirmation email sent. Confirm webpage visited. Email sent 'to verify that [the email address] is working.'
10:22.08LeedsI have an r300 card here, which wasn't amazingly stable last time I used it, but things have moved on since then - if I go back to a desktop machine, it'll probably be a tossup between integrated Intel and standalone ATI - assuming they continue coming up with the goods for free driver development
10:22.41Ch0HagYeah I'm liking the look of the Intels.
10:23.02Leedshaving keithp on staff doing driver stuff gets them a whole shitload of kudos
10:23.38Leedsthen again - you did hear that AMD/ATI have already released the 2d specs for newer cards, having announced a couple of weeks ago that they were going to?
10:23.56Leedsshai: how is life?
10:24.24Ch0HagI heard lots of marketing spiel but didn't see anything substantial anywhere.
10:24.28Ch0HagThis was a few weeks ago though.
10:25.26Leedshttp://airlied.livejournal.com/50613.html
10:27.40Leedsas much as anything, it's a proof-of-concept... they've burned people so many times that they had to make a grand gesture this time
10:27.58goibhniupity the new intels won't have opengl 2 support
10:28.44shaiLeeds, doing ok ...
10:29.07shaiLeeds, Yulie is in NY since the 29th with her mom... i'm waiting for her to get home this comming Tue.
10:29.15shaiI miss her a lot
10:29.56Leedssure :-(
10:30.41LeedsI ended up at a communal lunch yesterday, sitting with some Israelis - a rare chance to practise my Ivrit...
10:30.51morsingSounds nice
10:34.34shaiLeeds, i practice it daily :)
10:39.06Ch0HagHow can a decompression utility be 30MB?
10:39.20LeedsCh0Hag: it's got a GUI?
10:39.30Leedsmorsing: would have been nicer to be with my family...
10:39.36Ch0HagYou could write one in bash with a whole host of GUIs and it'd be smaller than that.
10:39.44Leedsshai: and is it improving? ;-)
10:40.43morsingLeeds: How 'bout lunch with me?
10:41.25Leedsmorsing: any time you want - you'll have to come to HK first though
10:41.35jcookmornin'
10:45.02Leedsjcook: evenin'
10:45.11morsingLeeds: I'm not never really sure you're serious
10:45.31Leedsabout that, I am
10:45.42Leedsif you were in HK, of course I'd have lunch with you
10:45.57jcooknot never?
10:45.58morsingBut if I came over for four days?
10:47.00Leedsit's a long way to come for 4 days... but give me notice, I've got a sofa bed - got to warn my flatmate, of course... and I'd have to be at work during weekdays because I've got bugger all holiday time here
10:47.40morsingLeeds: But last time I suggested a week or so you started saying there was nothing to do for a week and I should only come for two days
10:48.14morsing£388 - 12h
10:48.34Leedsa week would be a bit long... the general thing is to come to HK as well as at least one other Asian/Australasian place
10:48.47morsingI'm not a millionaire
10:50.00Leedsbut I thought you were a contractor?
10:50.11morsingNot the same thing
10:50.47Leedsspeaking as a permie, we all know you lot are rolling in it
10:50.57morsingI can't deny it...
10:54.01morsing<PROTECTED>
10:54.19Leedsyou just want to come and see if I've got any spare women, don't you?
10:54.29morsingYup -
10:54.51morsingI'm still interested in that Faye-lookalike from the photo you sent me two years ago
10:57.00Leedswhich one was that?  if it was 2 years ago, there's a pretty good chance she's left HK
10:59.35Leedsor, to be honest, if she's still here, she's probably not talking to me ;-)
11:02.58goibhniunice git cheat-sheet: http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2007/09/git-cheat-sheet.html
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11:08.14Leedsmorsing: if you could give me a better clue than 'Faye-lookalike' I might be able to help you
11:12.54jcookemanWho's watching the big game tonight?
11:12.57jcookemanAnyone for Richmond?
11:14.19mikejwyou mean West London?
11:15.28jcookemanyes
11:15.39jcookemanRichmond on the river
11:15.47antiphaseRather more south-west if you want to end up on the correct side of the river ;)
11:23.54Leedsmorsing?
11:26.06jcookemanno one?
11:26.33Leeds'the big game' being?
11:27.34rhowe_<Pipex> "as of the end of today, the line will be completely ceased and you can reorder either with ourselves or any other provider"
11:27.42rhowe_<me> "er... OK... who ordered the cease?"
11:27.48rhowe_<Pipex> "BT"
11:27.55rhowe_<me> "On whose authority?"
11:28.05rhowe_<Pipex> "er..... do you want me to find out?"
11:28.16jcookemanthe big game is England v SA rugby
11:28.19Leedsrhowe_: the ? yesterday was for job-hunting
11:28.23rhowe_Leeds: Ah
11:28.36rhowe_<Pipex> "It might be useful, yes"
11:28.38rhowe_cue the hold music
11:28.38Leedsjcookeman: ah... I do have an invite to see it, but it's at a stupid time of day
11:28.47rhowe_Leeds: Fed up, ready to move on
11:28.49jcookeman2000 isnt it?
11:28.55Leedsnot in GMT+8 ;-)
11:29.01jcookemanah right
11:31.02Leedsrhowe_: new flat... new job... new woman...
11:33.27Leedsor should I say old woman...
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11:44.42gregjhttp://it.slashdot.org/it/07/09/13/1720251.shtml
11:48.49Leedsah, now that's what we like - a call out of nowhere from a friend to say "hey, do you fancy grabbing a curry tonight?" :-)
11:53.16gregjnice
11:53.21gregjI wish I had friends like that
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12:03.57mikejwjcookeman: I'm in Richmond, by the river too
12:04.04gregjhttp://www.apple.com/logicexpress/
12:04.05gregjdonations are welcomed ;>
12:19.13polyunixgregj>: i have MixMan Studio for Mac. never used it seriously.
12:21.35gregjI do all my work in express, music wise - it suits me perfectly
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12:32.54goibhniugregj: got anything on jamendo?
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12:41.58Ch0HagFloppy discs are slooooooooow.
12:42.03gregjgoibhniu: whats that
12:42.35gregjgoibhniu: http://www.podgorze.pl/~gj/mystuff
12:42.45gregjsome of my stuff, or versions recorded by me
12:42.54goibhniuhttp://www.jamendo.com
12:42.57goibhniucool
12:43.15gregjI don't use myspace and that kind of stuff for sharing, I have my own serves ;)
12:45.09goibhniugregj: poodle rock?
12:45.38gregjI don't like that name
12:45.49goibhniulol ... just kidding :)
12:45.53goibhniuhave you got a mullet?
12:46.08gregj;>
12:46.27gregjhttp://zlew.org/gitary.jpg
12:46.27goibhniuyou play guitar?
12:46.32gregjdoes it look like I have one ?
12:46.42gregjI play, I sing, I compose, I perform, ...
12:47.10goibhniucool
12:48.15goibhniuI used to play a lot in my bedroom .. then sometimes I'd get drunk and play on stage ... but I found the whole experience depressing
12:48.34goibhniupeople like to treat music as if it's some kind of rugby
12:48.58Ch0HagYou mean they run at you and crush your chest to stop you continuing?
12:50.09gregjgoibhniu: I like doing it, I always describe playing for ppl as a way of wanking, but when you want everyone to watch and enjoy.
12:50.23gregjgoibhniu: that makes everyone understand the feel ;)
12:50.44goibhniupeople think you play music because you want to be successful, or impress people or something ... as if it's some competitive thing
12:50.53gregjget laid
12:50.58goibhniuI only ever really enjoyed jamming with other musicians
12:52.07gregjI don't get much occasions to play with other ppl these days
12:52.31gregjI got a friend in March area, who is a drummer, but apart from that it is me, logic express, and my mind
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12:53.30morsingflips_and_rails!
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12:58.12morsingAvnit32!
13:06.20dick_turpingregj: I cleaned your picture up a little, hope you don't mind http://images.centrosales.co.uk/General/gregj.jpg
13:07.58morsingHuh?
13:08.06morsingdick_turpin: Show us the 'before'
13:08.59dick_turpinmorsing: http://zlew.org/gitary.jpg
13:09.31morsingErmmm.... Same photo?
13:11.53dick_turpinmorsing: Are you trying to set me off? the original is covered in a brown layer and very dark, I've removed that and brightend it
13:12.33morsingRight... Maybe I'm brown/grey colour blind
13:30.52polyunixhttp://www.sysadminoftheyear.com/?ac=ostg-sky
13:31.23tripitakaUS/UK only
13:32.26polyunixUS/Canada Only
13:33.00polyunixI like that guy on the front page.
13:35.01morsingpolyunix: You a woman? Or gay?
13:35.43polyunixmorsing>: neither. what about you?
13:35.54SlayerXPor merely comfortable enough with your sexuality to be able to pay either sex a compliment without assuming a sexual overtone
13:35.59morsingpolyunix: That's impossible. So why do you fancy him?
13:36.12tripitakaer, *canada. Three pints though.
13:36.29SlayerXPmorsing: he didn't say he fancied the guy, he said he _liked_ him
13:36.44polyunixmorsing>: not him. but his guitar
13:36.45morsingSlayerXP: I like you
13:37.05SlayerXPgosh.
13:37.06polyunixi like his funny look
13:37.32polyunixmorsing>: not in a sexual way.
13:37.34tripitakasurely he's the big chap from The Office
13:38.55polyunixmorsing>: i like you, and your greetings in the mornings. :)
13:40.13morsingpolyunix: Aawwwwwwww - shucks
13:40.16morsing:)
13:40.18tripitakahttp://www.myspace.com/ewenmacintosh
13:41.04morsingpolyunix: I do get a lot of complaints about them as well :O  I suppose you can't please everyone
13:41.37polyunixi might like Leeds as well. i like his photo on http://www.gllug.org.uk
13:42.33morsing*yuck*
13:42.58morsingpolyunix: As someone who's been away on a romantic holiday with Leeds... Wait is he here?
13:43.05Armand|Gamingahh.. that reminds me, must do a decent pic of meself.
13:43.15polyunixmorsing>: i used to think that <morsing> is a bot, when i got the greetings. :)
13:43.22morsing:)
13:43.23Armand|Gamingmy current online pic is awful. :P
13:45.37morsingArmand!
13:45.47Armandmorsing! :)
13:46.10Armandhttp://ng-gallery.net/view.php?nick=Armand-[79th]
13:46.11polyunixArmand>:  where is your pix?
13:46.25Armandthere ya go, I warn you.. it's really bad!! :P
13:46.36polyunixoh common
13:46.41Armandlol
13:47.03polyunixArmand>: is it invisible?
13:47.10Armand?
13:47.18Armand"Not found" ?
13:47.36polyunixmikejw?
13:47.52Armandhuh?
13:48.06SlayerXPArmand: you need to take an emergency appintment with your hairdresser.  the secret code you need to use is "number-half all over, thanks"
13:48.12Armandlol
13:48.17Armandsmeghead. :P
13:49.03ArmandI took the pic to put on a character on The Sims, came out like that. @_@
13:52.03dick_turpinArmand: Looks like youy missed a few bits when you shaved that morning too ;-)
13:52.41Armandlol
13:52.50ArmandI don't like to shave, tis annoying.
13:53.33dick_turpinArmand: Yeah must be a real pig to shave those fourteen hairs on your face ;-)
13:54.15Armandharhar..
13:54.31gregjdick_turpin: it was my stuppid camera, plus that picture was quickie for my friend, I have to get a proper session with gutiars, and shaite
13:54.56gregjdick_turpin: what can you expect, from picture taken in dark room, where light is very yellowish
13:55.01goibhniugregj: you need rocket launchers
13:55.16goibhniuand an imperialist flag
13:55.36dick_turpingregj: I only cleaned it so I could so I could forge youre sig on the copy's I'm selling on eBay
13:56.24dick_turpincor blimey how many "so i could" can I type?
13:59.44morsingWell that's three
14:00.33gregjdick_turpin: ;>
14:00.42dick_turpinmorsing: Its this stupip fly come nat thing that keeps buzzing my screen
14:00.48dick_turpinstupid
14:01.26polyunixdick_turpin>: this happen to me when my hooves stuck on the keyboard keyboard keyboard...
14:04.05rhowe_http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=1y&s=NRK.L&l=off&z=m&q=l&c=%5Eftse
14:04.12dick_turpingregj: Some bloke called Roger is bidding for them at the moment  I don’t trust him, he recons he is in a band, but when I ask him what one  He keeps say “Whoâ€
14:05.14gregj;>
14:05.19dick_turpinpolyunix: Having not seen the photo I can't comment
14:05.34gregjnotice that all stuff that I let uyou listein to, is copyrighted by me
14:05.51polyunixhttp://www.barefoottrimming.com/images/hoove_pair.jpg
14:06.32polyunixdick_turpin>: your comments pls.
14:06.54dick_turpinpolyunix: Hm after 15 pints. Cor thats tasty. Ta Da!
14:07.28polyunixdick_turpin>: btw right foot is clearly marked.
14:07.40polyunix:)
14:08.07dick_turpingregj: Thats OK we don't have copyright laws on the Ward here Matron says we can be responsable anyway :-)
14:10.54dick_turpinpolyunix: Nope I'm still an idiot. I see the AF which might be...? na I hate guessing games unless I'm in charge
14:11.19dick_turpingregj: cant
14:12.09goibhniu~seen secretlondon
14:12.12ibotsecretlondon <n=secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 213d 1h 54m 6s ago, saying: 'have fun!'.
14:12.27morsing~seen goibhniu
14:12.28ibotgoibhniu is currently on #gllug (6h 20m 31s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 19s, last said: '~seen secretlondon'.
14:12.36morsingibot goibhniu
14:12.39goibhniumorsing: what did you do to her?
14:12.48morsinggoibhniu: :(  I ate her - sorry
14:12.59morsingI got a message from her yesterday actually
14:13.03morsing(not kidding)
14:13.14goibhniufrom the after life?
14:14.12morsingNot sure
14:14.53goibhniuethernet-over-ouija?
14:17.41boudiccasdick_turpin; don't you find using a ouija board on irc rather hampers your communication when others are using the more usual qwerrttyuiop keybaords?
14:18.23dick_turpinboudiccas: Not really when you consider the mumbo jumbo that get communicated here :-P
14:18.38Armandsorry. :P
14:19.04boudiccasstuttering fingers :(
14:19.08goibhniuit's ok Armand ... just this once
14:19.40dick_turpinboudiccas: P.S. I was gonna use a rude word but I'm on thin ice already :-P
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14:20.45boudiccasdick_turpin; male cows droppings? :)
14:21.05dick_turpinboudiccas: Ta Da!
14:21.17boudiccassee thought reading does work on irc
14:22.07boudiccassomebody is hammering in their bathroom, nad its sounding in all the other flats, and its peeing me off
14:22.18dick_turpinboudiccas: She knows too much tooo muuuchhhh
14:23.29boudiccasits liek somebody is hammering in your skull without the actual hammer blows being felt, like the precursor to a hangover ... and its beer tonight as its my klug social meet
14:23.33boudiccas*like
14:23.35jcookemanmikejw: there??
14:24.39dick_turpinboudiccas: You're such a killjoy, cant a bloke have 5 mins in the bog with readers wives without you moaning?
14:24.57Armandbrb
14:25.05jcookemanboudiccas: how about some rugby tonight>?
14:25.15boudiccasyou call this moaning? just wait until i get in the groove
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14:25.37boudiccasjcookeman; sorry, my evening is already configured with its klug meet
14:25.38jcookemanI like moaners
14:27.52dick_turpingoibhniu: Oi read your emails! I aint got all day you know. This dailup lark is expensive
14:28.18goibhniudick_turpin: oh yeah ... I started replying and then left it :)
14:28.19goibhniu1 sec
14:28.51dick_turpingoibhniu: I'm up to £387.00 cos of you
14:30.00morsingboudiccas! What's for tea?
14:31.34boudiccasgolden rice
14:31.37jcookemanmikejw hello??
14:31.59boudiccasmorsing; whats for your tea?
14:33.04Armandright, thats my nick reg sorted. :)
14:33.23SlayerXPArmand: and your hair?
14:33.27Armandnah..
14:33.37Armandthats fine as it is. :D
14:33.41dick_turpinArmand: What about a shave?
14:33.53Armandoccasional. :)
14:34.12ArmandI just buzz it with electric clippers.
14:35.57dick_turpinArmand: You snob! you mean you don't use cold water and a sharpened flint like most of us? you lucky lucky.....
14:36.04Armandlol
14:36.11boudiccasclippers rather than a shaver? sounds like you're shearing yourself! :)
14:36.17jcookemanfolks, I'
14:36.19Armandexactly. :)
14:36.19jcookemanok
14:36.22jcookemanone more time
14:36.29jcookemanfolks, I'm gonna be in Richmond tonight for the game.
14:36.35jcookemananyone care to join my party?
14:36.43Armandwhat game?
14:37.23dick_turpinArmand: Hide and seek. You hide and I promise I'll try and find you, honest ;-)
14:37.28Armandhehee
14:37.46Armandgood luck, I'm a ninja at hide & seek. :D
14:37.52boudiccasdick_turpin; how hard will you try?
14:38.30dick_turpinboudiccas: About as hard as, um ooh, er oh is that the time
14:38.37boudiccaslol
14:40.33dick_turpinboudiccas: Are you going to the gllug meeting on the 22nd?
14:41.26boudiccaswhereabouts is it?
14:42.00boudiccasif my ship comes in in time then i might consider attending one, just to see what its like and to compare it with a klug one
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14:42.46dick_turpinboudiccas: Apparently its at Westminster Uni
14:42.52boudiccasand then maybe try to use some of the gllug ideas to enrich my klug one
14:43.29boudiccasi'd have to get directions including which tube stations to use first otherwise i'd soon get lost.
14:43.36dick_turpinboudiccas: I'm thinking of coming down but I've worked it out and it'll cost me around £100.00+
14:43.46boudiccasnow we've got the bloody dentist in drilling his way though a wall
14:43.47Armandwhats the closest train station?
14:44.08boudiccas£100! that is a lot just for the day
14:44.30boudiccasI don't suppose that the transport will cost me more that about £12
14:45.25goibhniuI think goodge street is the closest tube station
14:46.02boudiccascan anyone connect to this site please? .... http://www2.digitaldistractions.org:8080/torrents.php
14:46.09dick_turpinboudiccas: Yeah but I was thinking of throwing rotten veg at goibhniu during his talk, just a friendly sort of thing :-)
14:46.22goibhniuboudiccas: I can't
14:46.31jcookemanboudiccas: no
14:46.38boudiccasi think that the site must be permanently down and if you can't connect to it either then it /is/ down
14:46.45Armandboudiccas: Nope.
14:46.52boudiccasright, ty, i'll give up on it then
14:48.32dick_turpinboudiccas: Is it one of them sites thats only up for about 30 mins and you only get to hear about in certain chat rooms? ;-)
14:49.43morsingboudiccas: Duck?
14:49.48boudiccasno, it was a very reputable site that had loads of good torrents on, things like minder, the good life, and lots of other bbc series as well as us/canadian series
14:49.52morsingkeithlard!
14:49.58morsingkeithlard: Nice meeting you btw
14:49.59boudiccasmorsing; quack
14:50.04morsing:(
14:50.22dick_turpinboudiccas: lol
14:50.58Armand"minder", "good" ??
14:53.16dick_turpinboudiccas: I've found a photo of you
14:53.24dick_turpinboudiccas: http://www.orpheusandlyra.com/files/OperaWebRenata/Krushelnytska/Krushelnytska_Brunhilda.jpg
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14:59.05boudiccasdick_turpin; rofl
14:59.37boudiccasthats a good un :)
15:00.14dick_turpinboudiccas: I now have it framed on the desk opposite, I am currently on my knees worshiping it.
15:01.23dick_turpinboudiccas: You need to get hold of the "Ride of the Valkiries" (Spelt Way wrong) as your theme tune
15:01.24boudiccaslol
15:02.00boudiccasit does happen to be one of my favourite tunes with its readily recongnisable rhyththm
15:02.10boudiccasvalkyries
15:02.40dick_turpinboudiccas: Yeah but I think you only need the woman screaming bit not the rest
15:03.05dick_turpinI love the smell of Napalm in the morning
15:04.27boudiccasdoes it beat shaving for you dick_turpin ?
15:05.30boudiccaswhen i scream you ought to run for the bomb shelter, it means that theres a mjor paddy coming and you're in the firing range
15:05.38dick_turpinboudiccas: The words beat, and head figure in it somewhere. Oops I've done it again
15:05.54boudiccasmind you i'm like that if i raise my voice to a shout too
15:06.19boudiccasdick_turpin; done what again?
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15:12.47dick_turpinboudiccas: 1 sec on phone re read my post
15:13.35boudiccasdick_turpin; you re read or me reread? i'm all confuzzled now
15:15.42jcookemanwhere's the netscaler gurus here?
15:17.05antiphaseWe're all too poor to buy Netscalers, that's why we use Linux ;)
15:20.05boudiccasits a royal marine doing training on the nets at lympehurst
15:20.28Armandhardehar. :D
15:20.40boudiccas:)
15:24.21dick_turpinboudiccas: Sorry about that, was in the process of charging a huge profit from a victim, Oops I mean customer
15:25.40Armandhehehe
15:25.58Armand"administrative charges" ftw! :P
15:35.52haliArmand: a load balancer appliance from citrix
15:36.04haliArmand: they are fairly expensive
15:36.37haliif you are looking for load balancers atm i can recommend foundry serveriron 4g
15:36.42haliquite cheap as well
15:37.12jcookemanhali: how could you!
15:37.19antiphaseNetscalers are so much more than a crappy load balancer
15:37.37Armandic
15:37.49Armandnot something I really need. :)
15:38.51haliyeye, i don't mind if you call them application switches :)
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15:44.35jcookemanI'm having a bitch of a time with post request sizes
15:44.44jcookemancant find the problem to save my life
15:44.53haliin what app?
15:44.57antiphaseA limit on the size presumably ;)
15:45.04jcookemanexactly
15:45.06jcookemanbut cant find it
15:45.10jcookemanwhen I connect directly it works
15:45.12haliwe have fairly hairy xml post requests to jboss via apache httpd
15:45.20jcookemanbut seems it's denying post requests over a certain size
15:45.33antiphaseUse Perl, that will fix it
15:46.29Armandfking Steam DLs are crap.
15:46.38Armandso slow.
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15:52.44jcookemanWhere has mikejw gone?
15:53.10Armandfired him at Mars. :)
15:58.17boudiccasgw280; when do universities go back to university please?
15:58.23boudiccason average
15:58.47boudiccasanyone?
15:58.58goibhniuaround now?
15:58.59jcookemanhuh?
15:59.17goibhniudepends on the uni ... I think some are back and some don't start until october
15:59.19boudiccasi don't know, thats why i'm asking
15:59.30boudiccasah, ty goibhniu
16:06.12gw280boudiccas: no idea
16:07.00boudiccasgw280; when do you go back then?
16:07.06gw280boudiccas: no idea
16:07.20boudiccasgw280; that all you can say? :)
16:24.54rhowe_anyone fancy going to a free comedy night? www.leehurst.com
16:25.06rhowe_tonight, near whitechapel
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16:50.52eyoreif my message.log and boot.log is empty
16:51.02eyorei'm guessing a likely candidate to blame is syslog
16:51.19antiphaseNot unless they're in syslog.conf
16:51.20eyoreif you restart syslog and you still don't have logging where might i find a hint as to what is wrong
16:51.58eyore*.info;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none;postgres.none;         /var/log/messages
16:52.42eyorethat is in my syslog.conf
16:52.48antiphaseThat doesn't look like message.log or boot.log to me
16:53.13eyoreah sorry
16:53.45eyorei  said message.log i meant /var/log/messages and /var/log/boot.log
16:53.51eyoremy mistake
16:54.11antiphaseMy boot.log is also empty. If syslog isn't logging to messages, your disk is probably full :)
16:54.24eyoreit is not, however it may have been in the past
16:54.29eyorea long time ago
16:54.41eyorewe haven't had logging in /var/log/messages for a long time
16:54.53antiphaseEither that or try fully restarting syslogd because it's notoriously shit at picking up config changes on a SIGHUP IME
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16:55.59eyorei stop it entirely
16:56.01eyoreand start it again
16:56.05eyoreand nothing much seems to happen
16:56.20eyoredoes, syslog actually log it's own messages anywhere?
16:56.33antiphaseRun it with -d I expect
17:03.53eyorethanks, that helped, i found a bug in the conf file
17:03.56eyoreor a bug developed
17:18.01gregjhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D140155196589%2B%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=140155196589
17:18.19gregjhttp://tinyurl.com/243f33
17:20.09boudiccasbeer!
17:20.19z00daxboudiccas: check it
17:20.40boudiccasyou coming tonight?
17:20.47z00daxwhere to ?
17:20.58boudiccaskent lug social pub meeting
17:21.13boudiccasin Maidstone
17:21.20z00daxah, cant unfortunately. am still at work - and not quite fit enough to make the journey
17:21.29boudiccask, np
17:22.21boudiccaswe're discussing tonight which pub future meetings will be held in. probably heading back into town centre instead of just being on the outskirts
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17:23.24gregjboudiccas: good call
17:23.43gregjI'll probably be heading towards city center, to checkout new logic in apple store
17:23.54niv_one_threeevening
17:24.10boudiccasgregj; you're welcome to our klug meeting too, we're not fussy :)))
17:24.11gregjas soon as all the fuck ups are going to move out, and stop checking their msn fucking emails (in apple store, what an irony anyway)
17:24.17gregjklug ?
17:24.22niv_one_threeany idea how to resize a resiers partition I use as root in a pc with no cdrom?
17:24.23boudiccasKent lug
17:24.36XPSlammerniv_one_three: YOU'RE USING REISERFS, YOU'VE LOST ALREADY
17:24.38XPSlammeroops
17:24.48niv_one_three:-\
17:24.51niv_one_threey?
17:24.53gregjbertter than ext3
17:25.23niv_one_threeI know I may boot using initrd to a bash shell
17:25.45gregjuse knoppix luke
17:25.50niv_one_threebut , may I execute resier resize from there?
17:26.02niv_one_threeno cdrom
17:27.27Copeniv_one_three easy; unmount, blow away, mkfs.xfs
17:27.46Copei missed a step
17:27.52Copebut you get the idea
17:27.54gregjyeah
17:27.57gregjstfu :P
17:28.01gregjreiser forever
17:28.02Cope:P
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18:19.17morsinggoibhniu: ping
18:19.26goibhniumorsing!
18:19.31morsing:)
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18:27.51morsingO glorious goltor
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19:05.32ArmandSteam sucks!
19:24.05morsingArmand|Gaming!
19:32.20morsingzzz
20:06.58andrew__1hi morsing
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20:12.21morsingmylesbraithwaite!
20:12.23morsingandrew__1!
20:12.25rhowe_http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=14395&l=1cdfe&id=638316081
20:13.22morsingWeirdo
20:14.00morsingrhowe_: Why are you ignoring me?
20:15.39rhowe_I'm not!
20:30.30rhowe_http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-14-2007/0004663029
20:32.19goibhniuwhat a shame ... there's no pidgin for osx :(
20:33.29clive-hThere's os x irc clients
20:34.18goibhniudo you know any that support yahoo and jabber too?
20:34.35clive-hum no
20:35.09clive-hbut there's aqua-xchat if you want to irc
20:35.54goibhniuthanks but I had him sold on the idea of a single chat client to handle everything
20:36.07goibhniuhe was using the yahoo chat client
20:36.27clive-hheh
20:36.33goibhniuI guess colluquy is the user friendly irc client?
20:36.49clive-hthat's another one sure
20:37.13goibhniuI assume xchat is for h4xörs
20:37.18goibhniuI never tried it
20:37.35clive-hIt's what I use on linux and windows
20:37.38goibhniu<PROTECTED>
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21:02.21rhowe_IT Crowd on 4 after the ad break
21:12.56haligreat episode today :)
21:13.39halialmost abit to embarasing :)
21:14.36haliwould buying an ipod touch turn me in to a total prostitute?
21:34.06rhowe_northern rock on newsnight
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23:36.12z00daxso i am on the phone to the guys at bethere.co.uk
23:36.25z00daxbeen in position number.1 for 17 minutes no
23:36.26z00daxnow
23:39.48gregjsomeone's gotta lot to say ;)
23:42.29z00daxi am through to someone in poland who does not speak English
23:42.38z00daxits his first day working for this company
23:42.41z00daxthats nice
23:53.32gregjwow
23:53.40gregjthey employed someone who doesn't speak English ?
23:53.40gregjgreat
23:53.55gregjgive me the addr, I personaly will kick his arse out of the country
23:54.06gregjI mean, I understand the whole EU thing, anyone can work anywhere
23:54.07gregjgreat
23:54.15gregjbut as long as they speak fucking language
23:54.23gregjsame goes for americans and brits in Poland
23:54.39gregjfuckers don't speak Polish, and requiore stuff in Poland to speak english during meetings
23:54.42gregjetc, etc
23:54.58gregjI mean, wtf, kick their foregin arses out of the fucking countries,
23:55.27gregjI have a lot respect to britain, and ppl here, I mean, really - otherwise I wouldn't want to live here - I would rather starve to death in my own shit hole
23:55.37gregjI don't get those suckers, seriuosly
23:57.09gregjI got my arse kicked back in 2001 when I came to UK for the first time, for not being able to understand what they say to me - and I thought I can speak the language...
23:59.57z00daxi dont think the bethere call center is in the uk
23:59.58z00daxUK

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