00:00.11 | z00dax | did people know that globix is now a redbux/telecity brand |
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04:24.35 | clive-h | I didn't know that |
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07:00.55 | bilarh | people |
07:06.36 | Ch0Hag | Where? |
07:11.32 | bilarh | over there! |
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07:54.59 | Ch0Hag | By the stair? |
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08:06.48 | bilarh | i've got the man flu from hell |
08:06.56 | bilarh | and i've just spilt latte all over my keyboard |
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08:17.24 | Ch0Hag | That's all man flu is, isn't it? |
08:17.29 | Ch0Hag | Feeling sorry for oneself? |
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08:19.13 | benoyst | morning |
08:19.20 | blight | mornin |
08:25.08 | Ch0Hag | Who is the crazy old woman at the end of Farscape series 3? |
08:30.53 | blight | Ch0Hag: she is a healer |
08:31.06 | blight | Ch0Hag: if I remember right plays an important part later on |
08:31.11 | Ch0Hag | She does. |
08:31.15 | Ch0Hag | But who is she? |
08:31.34 | blight | Ch0Hag: can't remember her name - been a while |
08:33.52 | blight | Ch0Hag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noranti |
08:35.17 | Ch0Hag | Of course - wikipedia. |
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09:03.03 | gregj | http://www.reallivemoms.com/ |
09:03.05 | gregj | rotfl |
09:04.07 | bilarh | wtffl :-) |
09:05.35 | gregj | exactly |
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09:54.06 | goibhniu | hmm .. it looks like bethere are gonna leave me hanging without an internet connection for a couple of weeks |
09:54.51 | goibhniu | does anyone have experience with tiscale? |
09:54.58 | goibhniu | tiscali even |
09:55.58 | goibhniu | or does anyone know how I could get broadband for a couple of weeks? |
09:56.07 | Ch0Hag | Shite. |
09:56.11 | Ch0Hag | Utter, utter shite. |
09:56.23 | goibhniu | tiscali? |
09:56.28 | Ch0Hag | Da. |
09:56.31 | goibhniu | hot dang |
09:56.37 | goibhniu | how about virgin? |
09:56.48 | bilarh | stay away from tiscali, definitely! they're complete crack heads |
09:56.59 | Ch0Hag | They used to be UKFSN's upstream and then left me hanging for two months without broadband while they had an argument with Jason. |
09:57.08 | goibhniu | ffs! |
09:57.17 | goibhniu | ok ... they're on top of the black list |
09:57.28 | goibhniu | I used to work for ntl ... virgin must be shite |
09:57.32 | murb | tiscali still hold one of my customers domains :( |
09:57.43 | Ch0Hag | Won't let go? |
09:57.49 | Ch0Hag | NTL, are rigcht up there with Tiscali. |
09:57.51 | murb | we got grandfathered into them when they took over our colo isp |
09:58.06 | Ch0Hag | Even AOL are preferable to either of those. |
09:58.23 | goibhniu | hmm .. I wonder if aol could hook me up for a couple of weeks |
09:58.46 | murb | goibhniu: could you sign up for a wireless flat rate for whatever the weekly price is? |
09:59.08 | murb | or do they also have minimum contract lenghts? |
09:59.09 | goibhniu | murb: good idea ... I'll check that out |
09:59.17 | goibhniu | they probably do |
09:59.35 | murb | i think some of them will be glad for any money they can get. |
09:59.35 | Ch0Hag | Can't go UKFSN? |
10:00.04 | murb | Ch0Hag: it wouldn't make sense for 2 weeks. |
10:00.09 | Ch0Hag | Oh. |
10:00.16 | goibhniu | Ch0Hag: maybe I should consider them though |
10:00.20 | Ch0Hag | I don't think you'll get anything for that short a period. |
10:00.34 | Ch0Hag | Neighbour and a bit of CAT5? |
10:00.54 | goibhniu | I've used a cantenna before ... maybe I'll use one again |
10:00.58 | goibhniu | it sucks though |
10:01.02 | murb | bribe a neighbour to open their wireless to you? |
10:01.19 | goibhniu | if I find an AP I'll try to hunt them down and ask if they can share |
10:03.10 | goibhniu | it reallys sucks that that's the only option ... I'll have a look at other wireless things though |
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10:05.32 | murb | I've found a mobile company here that does gprs/umts for 25c / mb on a pay as you go basis. |
10:05.44 | Ch0Hag | I think it sucks more that there's no sort of cooperation between neighbours and the like. |
10:05.51 | oracle | hey folks! |
10:05.53 | oracle | long time no see |
10:05.56 | Ch0Hag | Why must every household have its own dedicated broadband line? |
10:06.04 | Ch0Hag | Seems like a waste of resources. |
10:06.19 | murb | Ch0Hag: s/dedicated broadband line?/dedicated water supply/ |
10:06.38 | jcook | any plans tonight? |
10:06.51 | murb | yes, drinking and fighting. |
10:06.54 | Ch0Hag | Obviously as a geek I'd want one, but what about the little old lady that just wants to talk to family? |
10:07.00 | jcook | murb: sweet |
10:07.03 | jcook | when and where? |
10:07.07 | Ch0Hag | She should use mine and pay me something like £2 per month. |
10:07.13 | Ch0Hag | Or maybe she could make me a cake or something. |
10:07.44 | Ch0Hag | murb: Despite appearances to the cantrary, broadband is unlike water in that it is not essential for life. |
10:08.01 | Ch0Hag | Plus I don't like the idea of going to the well in my towel in order to get water for a bath. |
10:08.05 | murb | Ch0Hag: being able to work is essential to buy food which is essential for life. |
10:08.16 | murb | internet connectivity is essential for my line of work. |
10:08.42 | Ch0Hag | murb: Water cannet be digitised and transferred with radio waves. |
10:08.50 | Ch0Hag | Aye. Mine too. |
10:09.09 | Ch0Hag | But not the stereotypical little old lady. |
10:09.14 | Ch0Hag | Plus I want free cake dammit! |
10:09.30 | murb | Ch0Hag: it can be vabourised and transport though. |
10:09.43 | murb | it can then be condensed and drunk. |
10:09.49 | Ch0Hag | Well yes. And we get free delivery nationwide, too. |
10:10.13 | murb | and the internet is oftern represented as a cloud on network diagrams. |
10:10.21 | murb | see they are nearly the same. |
10:10.24 | Ch0Hag | But does the internet rain? |
10:10.32 | murb | it doesn't rain it pours! |
10:11.24 | Ch0Hag | '** Message: Not starting remote desktop server' |
10:11.27 | Ch0Hag | Um ... thanks for that. |
10:11.31 | Ch0Hag | ... why? |
10:12.00 | Ch0Hag | Why is most GUI software written as if it's a pissy teenager with some for of .... whatever it is teenagers suffer from? |
10:12.10 | Ch0Hag | What? Be helpful? |
10:14.43 | Ch0Hag | Sorry. |
10:14.52 | Ch0Hag | I'll bet you don't even make cake. |
10:15.09 | jcook | how about some beers this evening guys! |
10:15.17 | goibhniu | we make great cake! |
10:15.39 | SlayerXP | jcook: there's a london.pm social on tonight |
10:16.04 | jcook | where? |
10:17.15 | SlayerXP | the eagle, city road |
10:17.19 | SlayerXP | just near old street tube |
10:17.24 | jcook | cool |
10:17.27 | jcook | Im off bank today |
10:17.37 | wethrin | mm.....beer |
10:17.48 | wethrin | SlayerXP: Was it sent to the london.pm announce list? |
10:19.03 | SlayerXP | wethrin: not by me |
10:19.57 | wethrin | Ah. It appears to be an emergency social. Was it only decided on today, then? |
10:20.11 | jcook | emergency beer drinking session |
10:20.12 | wethrin | not that I can make it |
10:20.44 | SlayerXP | wethrin: I called it a few days ago |
10:21.29 | wethrin | ahhh |
10:21.34 | wethrin | Leaving bash? |
10:23.02 | rhowe | hmm |
10:23.30 | jcook | what time in the eagle? |
10:24.14 | SlayerXP | i'll be there at 5, perhaps a little earlier |
10:24.28 | jcook | how do I know which party |
10:24.51 | blight | jcook: look for guys in geek t-shirts |
10:25.09 | jcook | long, uncombed hair |
10:25.23 | wethrin | rhowe: You normally do.... :) |
10:25.23 | blight | jcook: possible BO issues |
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10:25.38 | jcook | right |
10:25.39 | jcook | I got it |
10:25.41 | jcook | :D |
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10:25.58 | blight | jcook: I suspect bugger all talent there though ... :-) |
10:26.00 | *** mode/#gllug [-o wethrin] by wethrin |
10:26.22 | rhowe | wethrin: Indeed |
10:26.33 | wethrin | Will we be seeing you tomorrow? |
10:26.50 | rhowe | wethrin: Met up with the girl who made quite a contribution to the departure of my ex-fiancee :P |
10:27.01 | rhowe | wethrin: Perhaps - I'm moving next weekend, so I really ought to be preparing for that |
10:27.10 | wethrin | so should the wife be grateful or worried? :) |
10:27.25 | rhowe | So if you do see me, it'll be relatively briefly |
10:27.39 | rhowe | Good question :P |
10:27.39 | wethrin | heh |
10:31.53 | wethrin | So, my CPU fan on my P3 (slot) needs to be replaced. I guess Maplin would be a good option? |
10:32.05 | rhowe | wethrin: I can probably bring you one |
10:32.14 | rhowe | wethrin: Can't vouch for its age and reliability though |
10:32.24 | wethrin | As long as it's quiet :) |
10:32.28 | blight | wethrin: or computer faire ... or TCR ... which is less painful though ... |
10:32.39 | wethrin | computer fair won't be any good for this |
10:32.49 | rhowe | wethrin: What P3 do you have? |
10:32.49 | wethrin | They only seem to have new stuff |
10:32.54 | wethrin | rhowe: P3/450 |
10:33.01 | wethrin | Slot thingy |
10:33.09 | wethrin | original type |
10:33.20 | wethrin | before they decided that slots were silly |
10:34.28 | rhowe | How about I bring you a P3 500 which doesn't need a fan? |
10:34.33 | rhowe | It has a big heatsink |
10:34.40 | wethrin | If it fits in the slot, sure |
10:34.41 | Ch0Hag | I think I have a P3 that doesn't need a fan. |
10:35.10 | antiphase | I have one that doesn't need a fan, because it's not plugged in |
10:35.56 | rhowe | wethrin: This is a P3 500/512/100/2.0V S1 |
10:36.27 | wethrin | It should fit :) |
10:36.56 | wethrin | annoyingly there's no Maplin's in Durham, and I don't think our little computer shop sells small fans. |
10:37.10 | rhowe | Alright, well I guess I'll have to go to gllug tomorrow then |
10:37.31 | wethrin | hurrah! |
10:37.36 | wethrin | Lunch beforehand? |
10:42.55 | wethrin | gw280: You suck. You're not even going to be there tomorrow |
10:43.18 | gw280 | wethrin: a) my parents are coming up to cambridge, b) I hate you all, c) I'm poor. |
10:43.38 | wethrin | you've been working over the summer! |
10:43.41 | wethrin | Demand your payslip |
10:43.48 | gw280 | I'm still poor |
10:43.56 | wethrin | studentscum |
10:44.06 | gw280 | I spent all my money on my rifle |
10:44.07 | gw280 | so bog off |
10:44.11 | wethrin | that was silly |
10:44.19 | gw280 | no, it wasn't |
10:44.23 | wethrin | are you going to shoot anyone with it? |
10:44.31 | gw280 | no |
10:44.40 | wethrin | So pointless, then |
10:44.56 | wethrin | or will you hunt for animals to eat? |
10:45.45 | gw280 | my rifle's not allowed to be used for hunting purposes. |
10:46.06 | wethrin | well. So you can't shoot people, and you can't hunt. What's the point? Eh? |
10:49.25 | Ch0Hag | Does anybody know Zen's support number perchance_ |
10:49.27 | Ch0Hag | ? |
10:50.25 | Ch0Hag | Also - why has X stopped loading up both my screens? |
10:52.43 | bilarh | chohag: 0845 058 9009 |
10:53.32 | goibhniu | bt support people are humans!! |
10:53.47 | bilarh | goibhniu: corr, fancy that! |
10:54.01 | Ch0Hag | And X? I have 'Screen 1 "Extra" RightOf "Primary"' which worked yesterday. |
10:54.08 | Ch0Hag | Or whenever I last logged in. |
10:54.20 | goibhniu | bilarh: with initiative!! |
10:54.39 | Ch0Hag | support people don't do initiative. |
10:58.39 | goibhniu | BT gave me a reference number and almost even promised me that BeThere could turn my interwebs on ... on the very same day! |
11:01.48 | jcook | bt sucks |
11:01.50 | Ch0Hag | Dammit ATI are shit. |
11:02.25 | Ch0Hag | Two ATI cards now does not work, if the second is driven by the vesa driver X crashes, and you can bet whatever you like that the vesa driver is fine. |
11:02.49 | goibhniu | jcook BT are super! |
11:03.13 | jcook | be there or british telecom |
11:03.41 | goibhniu | British telecom ... bethere are sucking massively in this house moving experiment |
11:04.50 | jcook | I think bt are the biggest slugs on the planet |
11:05.05 | goibhniu | not because BT are charging me £124.99 (they added the .99 just now) to flick a switch in the exchange |
11:05.22 | jcook | they did the same to me |
11:05.34 | jcook | claimed they had to send someone to actually plug someone in |
11:05.42 | goibhniu | they just sound like humans on the phone ... bethere just sound like they can read out the email I sent them ... just about |
11:05.48 | jcook | maybe so, but still they are twats |
11:05.55 | jcook | not the ones I like to lick |
11:07.46 | goibhniu | goddamnit .. I hope these mesh networks take over the world |
11:07.58 | jcook | so who's going to The Eagle tonight? |
11:17.52 | goibhniu | ahh ... that makes more sense .. BT were talking hogwash |
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11:21.17 | polyunix | hello all |
11:21.54 | Ch0Hag | Hello. |
11:22.10 | jcook | hi |
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11:29.30 | Ch0Hag | Why must I constantly have weirdness? |
11:29.45 | antiphase | Because you are weird |
11:31.08 | Ch0Hag | ATI has decided that if the main card is used, the second one simply doesn't exist, and now fvwm thinks my caps lock key is only a ctrl key sometimes with no rhyme or reason. |
11:31.11 | Ch0Hag | Weirdness. |
11:32.15 | antiphase | Probably a Y2K problem; no-one has used fvwm since before then |
11:32.31 | Ch0Hag | Actually I'm more bothered about ATI. |
11:32.47 | Ch0Hag | FVWM I can deal with. At least it's a ctrl in the terms where it's needed. |
11:32.52 | goibhniu | why did you get ati cards? ... two of them even! |
11:33.01 | goibhniu | they have a stinking reputation |
11:33.15 | Ch0Hag | I got them years ago. |
11:33.23 | Ch0Hag | In fact the PCI card is ancient. |
11:33.38 | goibhniu | ah ... I guess you know all about their new drivers etc |
11:33.46 | goibhniu | apparently they work now |
11:34.16 | Ch0Hag | Hah! |
11:34.20 | goibhniu | or is that why they've stopped working? |
11:34.27 | Ch0Hag | Then why does only one screen work at a time_ |
11:34.30 | Ch0Hag | ? |
11:34.55 | Ch0Hag | Retards, that's what they are. |
11:34.58 | goibhniu | :( |
11:34.58 | Ch0Hag | Retards. |
11:35.19 | goibhniu | you could get a nice nvidia card for £15~£20 |
11:35.35 | Ch0Hag | The real problem is that nvidia are, by all accounts, equally evil. |
11:35.46 | antiphase | At least their evil cards work though |
11:35.56 | Ch0Hag | And my motherboard sports only PCIe x1 slots, so I'm stuck with AGP or PCI. |
11:36.02 | antiphase | I'm never going to use ATI again unless they do something special |
11:36.12 | Ch0Hag | Apparently PCIe is tha way to go these days. |
11:36.30 | antiphase | Rather. I'm not even sure you can still get new AGP stuff |
11:36.44 | goibhniu | even better .. you'll probably get a kick ass AGP card for £10 |
11:38.14 | Ch0Hag | Hmm I've just gone to see haw much RAM my gfx card has and it says: |
11:38.24 | Ch0Hag | total video RAM=262144K, accessible=131072K |
11:38.30 | Ch0Hag | Why would only half of it be accessible? |
11:38.53 | antiphase | It'sprobably one of those horrible Hypermemory ones thatWindows can share system RAM with |
11:39.27 | goibhniu | hmm ebay seems to have way overpriced agp card |
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11:41.39 | goibhniu | http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=130091&_LOC=UK |
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11:42.41 | Ch0Hag | I've got two nvidias but they seem old. |
11:43.31 | Ch0Hag | Bah galeon's doing it's freezer thing. |
11:44.24 | antiphase | Firefox is working fine today ;) |
11:44.49 | Ch0Hag | What're the free nvidia drivers like/ |
11:45.27 | goibhniu | getting there ... afaik |
11:45.35 | goibhniu | they've got gears working |
11:45.52 | goibhniu | the 2d ones are fine |
11:46.09 | rhowe | http://www.bmt.org/careers/?/5/2/120 |
11:46.48 | antiphase | Heh, Windows desktop support + BGP |
11:47.02 | goibhniu | sounds like a good job for a pirate |
11:48.13 | bilarh | arr |
12:05.04 | murb | antiphase: nothing wrong with that job spec really is therE? |
12:06.32 | Ch0Hag | My numlock light doesn't work in X. |
12:33.48 | Ch0Hag | Why were stupid people ever allowed to use computers? |
12:34.14 | Ch0Hag | I have far too much software and hardware which tries to guess how to configure itself for their benefit and gets it utterly, utterly wrong. |
12:34.32 | antiphase | I'd fix your keyboard problem before you moan about people that can't work computers ;) |
12:34.51 | Ch0Hag | My keyboard was fine before I upgraded X. |
12:34.54 | Ch0Hag | X is trying to be clever. |
12:35.00 | Ch0Hag | X is getting it utterly, utterly wrong. |
12:35.32 | antiphase | I wasn't aware it was self-aware. You probably have the wrong keyboard type in the config innit |
12:35.46 | Ch0Hag | It's the same thing it was last week. |
12:35.46 | antiphase | So blame the retards that put your shit distro together :) |
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12:35.57 | Ch0Hag | That would be Debian. |
12:36.22 | Ch0Hag | I think even they are succumbing to the make-it-work-for-apple-users syndrome. |
12:36.23 | antiphase | Is it Xfree version 5 then? |
12:36.57 | Ch0Hag | What? |
12:37.07 | Ch0Hag | Oh. Yes. "Debian uses old software". |
12:37.11 | Ch0Hag | Hahaha. Never heard that one before. |
12:39.47 | Ch0Hag | Wtf? Robert Jordan is dead. |
12:39.59 | Ch0Hag | Now he won't be able to finish writing that bloody book. |
12:47.48 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: |
12:48.40 | boudiccas | yo dude |
12:49.11 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Where's me birthday snog? |
12:49.31 | bilarh | lock your daughters in, it's dick_turpin |
12:50.01 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; i don't know? i didn't know that you were worthy of one on your birthday, which is, i presume, today |
12:50.20 | boudiccas | so how old are you today then? |
12:50.22 | bilarh | dick_turpin: happy 102'nd ;-) |
12:50.44 | boudiccas | 21st again!? how many times have you been 21 now then? |
12:51.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yep I'm now officially 18 and can drink, vote and kiss women and small sheep |
12:51.26 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; do what to small sheep? what you were telling me about yesterday? |
12:51.47 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Oops scrum that wrong channel |
12:52.13 | bilarh | "clipping around teh lug hole"... is that what you used to say back in the thirties? :) |
12:52.16 | boudiccas | scrum? isn't that a rugby football term? |
12:52.16 | dick_turpin | scrub |
12:52.33 | dick_turpin | SCRUB fat fingers :-P |
12:52.53 | boudiccas | they wear them in operating theatres you know, scrubs! |
12:53.29 | boudiccas | don't know why theyre called 'scrubs' but there some of the softest and most comfortable pyjamas i've everworn |
12:53.30 | dick_turpin | I've had hundreds of automated emails even one from the Ubuntu community |
12:53.33 | boudiccas | *ever worn |
12:54.28 | gw280 | http://www.stephenfry.com/blog/?p=3 |
12:54.31 | gw280 | nice bit: "Server side apps only. No, no, no, no, no. This is NOT good. It’s one thing to want to keep the proprietary system closed, but to present a device sealed in digital Araldite is a Bad Idea. An Ubuntu flavoured Linux for mobiles is in the works, and you don’t get more open source than that. Damn it, there’s Linux for the Palm available these days." |
12:54.41 | boudiccas | well you must be the first centarian that the ubuntu community has ever had, so its a very special occasion. i preesume mark shuttleworth is coming round to get his photo taken with you? |
12:54.52 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Back in 1982 the V neck was pretty low and the female nurses ect...... now they have round neckd or pin them up. killjoys |
12:55.59 | boudiccas | i see that my local hospital has moved over the trousers and tunics for the females, slightly similar to the ones used by the males |
12:56.26 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Look I've told you before I at least can have plastic surgery but theres no options open for you :-P |
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12:56.55 | boudiccas | but i can't stand seeing ward nurses wandering around town in their uniforms. i think that its a hygiene risk |
12:57.17 | boudiccas | carrying bugs from the community back into the hopsital |
12:57.19 | bilarh | boudiccas: are you a nurse? |
12:57.24 | boudiccas | i used to be |
12:57.39 | bilarh | ah cool... |
12:57.48 | dick_turpin | bilarh: She still has the outfit ;-) |
12:57.50 | bilarh | dick, queue some nurse jokes |
12:57.54 | boudiccas | i was a staff nurse on a cancer ward for 6.5 yeras |
12:57.57 | bilarh | beat me to it :P |
12:57.58 | boudiccas | *years |
12:58.22 | jcook | mmmmmmmmmmm nurses |
12:58.22 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; it isn't an outfit, its a uniform |
12:59.02 | bilarh | hmm, i don't know... dick_turpin told me he bought a nurses outfit from ann summers yesterday |
12:59.31 | bilarh | serious question, what's the difference between an outfit and a uniform anyway? |
12:59.49 | boudiccas | bilarh; ah, that would be an /outfit/ then, playing on the males liking for a uniform and making it as scanty and revealing as possible |
12:59.54 | Ch0Hag | One is sexy? |
12:59.57 | dick_turpin | bilarh: They outfit comes with removable bits ;-) |
13:00.02 | dick_turpin | The |
13:00.11 | hali | did someone mention a nurses' outfit? *wakes up* :) |
13:00.53 | bilarh | i bought my boss a nurses outfit once |
13:01.02 | bilarh | he hung it in his office window for about two years |
13:01.11 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Is thet why you are out of work? |
13:01.19 | dick_turpin | that |
13:01.30 | boudiccas | bilarh; a uniform is protective clothing and provides a uniform look amongst a group of people with recognisable symbols of their rank |
13:01.32 | bilarh | nah, he was a good laugh most of the time :) |
13:01.39 | cpufreak | bilarh: you left your new job? |
13:01.48 | bilarh | cpufreak: nope, not yet... |
13:01.55 | bilarh | cpufreak: in fact, it's bloody excellent here :D |
13:01.58 | cpufreak | oh right. |
13:02.21 | bilarh | cpufreak: wethrin keeps moaning about you not contacting him, you should probably /msg him :) |
13:02.29 | cpufreak | I just have |
13:02.32 | bilarh | cool |
13:02.38 | cpufreak | not had any spare timein the last whilst |
13:02.46 | cpufreak | was in the office til 4am this morning working |
13:02.51 | cpufreak | back in again for 10am today |
13:03.26 | dick_turpin | http://images.centrosales.co.uk/General/tank2.jpg |
13:22.36 | goibhniu | hi cpufreak ... are you gonna be able to talk tomorrow? |
13:37.48 | cpufreak | I msg'd wethrin earlier. |
13:37.57 | cpufreak | 14:03 <cpufreak> I've been snowed under hence not on irc |
13:37.57 | cpufreak | 14:04 <cpufreak> as such not had time to get anything written/approved. |
13:38.06 | cpufreak | and as I said n the channel |
13:38.10 | cpufreak | 14:04 < cpufreak> not had any spare timein the last whilst |
13:38.10 | cpufreak | 14:04 < cpufreak> was in the office til 4am this morning working |
13:38.11 | cpufreak | 14:04 < cpufreak> back in again for 10am today |
13:38.46 | goibhniu | sounds like a no |
13:38.51 | goibhniu | that's a pity |
13:38.56 | cpufreak | 14:39 < cpufreak> 14:04 <cpufreak> as such not had time to get anything written/approved. |
13:39.04 | cpufreak | would kinda indicate that, yes. |
13:39.15 | goibhniu | how kind of you to keep everyone informed |
13:39.20 | cpufreak | fuck off. |
13:39.30 | cpufreak | as I stated I've been snowed under by work and as such not been on irc |
13:39.58 | cpufreak | your sarcasm is a /real/ incentive for me to make the effort another time. |
13:40.19 | cpufreak | whilst I would like to give a talk and have some interesting stuff to talk about, work comes first |
13:40.41 | cpufreak | seeing as they're who pay for me to live. |
13:41.25 | goibhniu | I just think it would have been nice to let wethrin know this a little earlier |
13:41.45 | goibhniu | he goes to a lot of effort to arrange this |
13:41.48 | cpufreak | I would have done so |
13:41.52 | cpufreak | if I had had a choice. |
13:42.28 | cpufreak | only reason I'm online right now, is because I'm waiting on someothers, and there'snothing I can do in the meantime |
13:43.12 | Ch0Hag | Well you can prepare your talk while you wait then. |
13:43.14 | cpufreak | I told him it'd be subject to time constraints when I offered in the first placed. |
13:43.43 | cpufreak | that wont work, as it'd need to be checked by PR, and then sent to the copywriters |
13:44.53 | Ch0Hag | Oh you have one of THOSE types of jobs. |
13:45.42 | cpufreak | last conversation I had with wethrin in here was: |
13:45.42 | cpufreak | 11:38 < wethrin> Any word from your boss as to what you can talk about, if you can talk about it? |
13:45.43 | cpufreak | 11:38 < cpufreak> i've not had time |
13:45.43 | cpufreak | 11:38 < cpufreak> only had a day and a hal in the office this week |
13:45.45 | goibhniu | cpufreak: fair enough, you did say it was depending on circumstances |
13:46.09 | goibhniu | it is a pity though |
13:46.20 | gregj | anyone can lend me 100-150 quid till end of the month please? |
13:47.01 | cpufreak | Ch0Hag: we're sitll pre-launch, so need to be careful what we say, to ensure we do't give the game away and stuff. |
13:47.09 | goibhniu | would it suck to show a video talk tomorrow? |
13:47.31 | cpufreak | goibhniu: yeh it sucks. I'd have also liked to have had some sleep this week |
13:47.36 | cpufreak | 4hrs/night isn't enough |
13:47.44 | gregj | tell me `bout it |
13:48.36 | Ch0Hag | Pre-launch what? |
13:50.18 | goibhniu | the death ray |
13:50.26 | Ch0Hag | Cool. |
13:50.59 | Ch0Hag | Why would you need more than one? |
13:51.07 | Ch0Hag | Or are they like the NetHack death ray? |
13:51.19 | goibhniu | in case someone else has 6,000,000 |
13:53.04 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: :-) |
13:56.50 | wethrin | So. Can anyone give a last-minute talk? |
13:58.32 | hali | hm |
13:58.45 | wethrin | hali? :) |
13:59.07 | hali | i can think of lots of things i can talk about, but nothing on short notice nor that would be very interesting for most nerds |
13:59.18 | wethrin | aye, that's the trouble |
14:00.51 | gregj | heh |
14:03.16 | wethrin | ~seen z00dax |
14:03.17 | ibot | z00dax is currently on #gllug (1d 11h 36m 53s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 14h 3m 6s, last said: 'did people know that globix is now a redbux/telecity brand '. |
14:04.47 | goibhniu | wethrin: would it suck to show a video talk from some recent conference or something like that? |
14:05.07 | wethrin | goibhniu: A little :) But could be done. Do you have a video? |
14:05.14 | goibhniu | I can find one |
14:05.33 | goibhniu | the room definitely has a sound system? |
14:05.36 | wethrin | ooh |
14:05.42 | wethrin | It has done in the past |
14:07.26 | goibhniu | well .. I'll have a look for a video as an emergency back-up ... but if anyone else does come out of the wood work then we can forget about it |
14:08.08 | wethrin | aye. I'm looking if anyone on london.pm wants to do it |
14:08.38 | wethrin | Just wondering if it's worth sending an announcement |
14:09.07 | goibhniu | there's probably a fun video about perl 6 somewhere |
14:09.16 | goibhniu | larry is very entertaining |
14:09.52 | wethrin | As I don't want to send one to say a talk's been cancelled, then yet another one to say something else is back on |
14:11.22 | wethrin | maybe I could just ask on the main gllug list, if someone wants to volunteer? |
14:11.29 | goibhniu | I guess you could just say that one has been cancelled, but the rest are going ahead and you're still looking for an emergency speaker |
14:11.55 | wethrin | as an announcement? |
14:12.02 | wethrin | and then another just asking for speakers? |
14:12.27 | goibhniu | or yeah ... maybe just ask for an extra speaker |
14:12.40 | goibhniu | brb |
14:17.04 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: You could ask my mate Barbie, he's a Perl Minger barbie@missbarbell.co.uk http://barbie.missbarbell.co.uk/ |
14:17.36 | wethrin | where does he live? |
14:18.04 | z00dax | wethrin: hi |
14:18.10 | wethrin | ahh, z00dax! |
14:18.50 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Brum but he travels all over He might be down that way and up for it, if not book him for next time, tell him I mentioned him |
14:18.59 | wethrin | nod. Next time might be better |
14:19.01 | z00dax | oops |
14:19.05 | z00dax | who was that ? cpufreak ? |
14:19.28 | wethrin | aye |
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14:20.52 | bilarh | my god, what is up with the gllug list today... it's overflowing my inbox like my waist my jeans :-\ |
14:22.18 | dick_turpin | wethrin: goibhniu: heres his other site thats more appropriate http://use.perl.org/~barbie/journal |
14:41.17 | wethrin | ELACKOFTIME |
14:42.00 | wethrin | z00dax: Will we be going for curry tomorrow evening? |
14:42.25 | z00dax | wethrin: lets play it by the ear ? I wont be able to make it anyway |
14:42.30 | z00dax | have a birthday bash to get to |
14:42.37 | wethrin | boh |
14:42.38 | z00dax | will come to the pub for a drink though |
14:42.42 | wethrin | rar |
14:43.20 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: a real perl zealot! that would be cool if he could give a talk next time |
14:45.40 | goibhniu | maybe we could have a round table session |
14:46.07 | goibhniu | maybe it's too late for that |
14:46.21 | wethrin | we were going to have that anyway |
14:46.33 | goibhniu | yeah? cool |
14:46.58 | goibhniu | like 3 or 4 people who espouse competing web frameworks or something? |
14:47.02 | wethrin | Oh, no. |
14:47.26 | wethrin | We were going to have a discussion about what was mentioned on list, about having a longer more FOSDEM-type event |
14:47.49 | goibhniu | oh, sorry .. I haven't been reading the list lately |
14:47.58 | wethrin | ahhh |
14:48.06 | wethrin | Follow the link from the announcement post |
14:50.15 | murb | wethrin: fosdem without proper beer?? |
14:50.43 | wethrin | it wouldn't be in the Green Man |
14:51.24 | murb | they've still not fixed their lack of drinkable beer issues? |
14:51.33 | wethrin | I don't know. I haven't been there for some time |
14:51.39 | wethrin | over a year |
14:54.57 | wethrin | goibhniu: What facilities do you need for your talk? |
14:55.26 | goibhniu | I need to be able to plug my laptop into the projector .. sound would be nice too, but not essential |
14:56.06 | wethrin | Got a VGA cable? |
14:56.15 | wethrin | Sorry - VGA port? |
14:56.24 | goibhniu | yep |
14:56.34 | wethrin | should be okay, then |
14:56.47 | goibhniu | I've never plugged it into a projector before .. so that's my greatest fear |
14:56.53 | goibhniu | after that ... death |
14:56.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Can you tape it so that I can watch it later? |
14:57.17 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I'll do a private version just for you |
14:57.42 | goibhniu | I have just got a camera this week actually |
14:57.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Sh, I told you never to speak of our arrangement in public |
14:58.09 | goibhniu | so maybe I'll record the next talks and lash them up on the webs |
14:58.56 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its a pity you cant do a webcam live feed I'd login and watch too |
15:02.43 | bilarh | goibhniu: www.youporn.com |
15:03.04 | dick_turpin | bilarh: www.thehun.net |
15:05.02 | bilarh | is it work safe? :) |
15:05.06 | goibhniu | hmm ... "multimedia and podcasting with plone" any votes? |
15:05.35 | wethrin | could be done |
15:05.41 | bilarh | l8rs people, i'm off |
15:05.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Pooh |
15:06.09 | bilarh | dick_turpin: maybe, i pass the loo on the way out |
15:06.43 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You said you was off, like the milks gone off |
15:07.28 | bilarh | dick_turpin: sorry, I meant that I was about to leave |
15:07.43 | bilarh | honestly, some people! |
15:07.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh: s@OK I was taiking the pee. TTFN |
15:08.06 | dick_turpin | s'OK |
15:08.09 | bilarh | will you just stop your potty humour!? |
15:08.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Bum :-) |
15:08.51 | bilarh | i'll see your bum and raise you my penis |
15:09.09 | bilarh | that sounds wrong on more than one level :P |
15:10.52 | bilarh | it really was quite unintentional |
15:18.56 | boudiccas | what a weird conversation! |
15:20.03 | goibhniu | hmm .. this plone presentation sucks |
15:21.39 | gregj | plne sux |
15:22.02 | goibhniu | hmm .. an ipython demo? |
15:22.18 | goibhniu | python 3000? |
15:22.22 | goibhniu | blender? |
15:26.27 | wethrin | no-one volunteering to give a talk. Sigh |
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15:39.24 | goibhniu | I have one video I know is watchable .. and hasn't been seen by anyone ... but it's also about video editing :( |
15:39.29 | goibhniu | in blender |
15:39.43 | goibhniu | it's ~30mins |
15:40.04 | goibhniu | I'm installing miro now .. to see if I can find anything else |
15:40.17 | goibhniu | there are plenty of older ones that are good |
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16:34.12 | polyunix | goibhniu>: hello |
16:37.00 | goibhniu | yo |
16:38.42 | polyunix | can i bring my iBook tomorrow? |
16:38.48 | wethrin | Sure |
16:38.55 | wethrin | We can't stop you :) |
16:38.59 | polyunix | oh :) |
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16:39.20 | wethrin | Would you like me to bring a set of Torx bits? |
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16:39.52 | polyunix | goibhniu>: btw thanks for your wise advise on mint |
16:40.52 | goibhniu | polyunix: great! I've never tried it ... just heard about it ... I'm delighted you like it |
16:40.52 | wethrin | jason++ |
16:40.55 | wethrin | he's offered |
16:40.56 | polyunix | i just installed it on sony lapt. for a windows boy with all beryl whistles :) |
16:41.10 | polyunix | wow |
16:41.19 | goibhniu | wethrin: fantastic! |
16:42.00 | polyunix | i thought the guy will get heart arrest! |
16:43.35 | polyunix | goibhniu>: on mint cassandra , beryl is out of the box! quite stable. |
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16:53.37 | goibhniu | polyunix: that's great news ... so is mint a good distro for noobs? |
16:54.56 | wethrin | goibhniu: Do you have a Knoppix CD? |
16:55.06 | goibhniu | nope |
16:55.10 | wethrin | Also, do you need my phone number if you need to get in touch with me tomorrow? |
16:55.10 | goibhniu | not a recent one anyway |
16:55.16 | wethrin | hm |
16:55.23 | wethrin | hopefully we should be okay |
16:55.23 | goibhniu | but I can burn one |
16:56.02 | goibhniu | wethrin: I guess if I'm there at 1:30 I'll be ok? |
16:56.06 | wethrin | yes |
16:56.12 | goibhniu | yeah, could I have your number ... to be sure |
16:56.13 | wethrin | Knoppix is useful to have around :) |
16:56.26 | murb | knoppix on usb stick++ |
16:59.13 | goibhniu | jason from ukfsn? |
16:59.29 | wethrin | yeah |
16:59.55 | goibhniu | cool |
17:00.30 | polyunix | goibhniu>: i wouldn't put it on my machine, but mates who are windows bounded would highly appreciate it. |
17:01.52 | goibhniu | polyunix: I've felt ubuntu lacked a lot of wizard type things that windows users will expect |
17:02.01 | goibhniu | mandriva has lots of that stuff |
17:02.09 | goibhniu | and kde in general I suppose |
17:02.32 | goibhniu | I assume mint is gnome by default |
17:04.37 | polyunix | wethrin>: i have no torx |
17:05.13 | polyunix | goibhniu>: yes gnome's default manager |
17:06.36 | polyunix | goibhniu>: the only 1 problem i had - wireless card losing connection on protected network. |
17:08.39 | wethrin | polyunix: I'll bring my set along, then |
17:08.46 | wethrin | If I remember :0 |
17:09.12 | polyunix | wethrin>: do you need some help there with anything? i can come a bit earlier |
17:09.33 | polyunix | i can move and lift things |
17:10.15 | wethrin | polyunix: Nah - there's nothing to move/lift |
17:10.27 | polyunix | wethrin>: what a life |
17:10.58 | wethrin | I know... |
17:11.14 | boudiccas | ~seen morsing |
17:11.17 | ibot | morsing <i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 1d 4h 1m 44s ago, saying: 'People here are just so unbelievably unhelpful...'. |
17:12.29 | polyunix | wethrin: really. why do i do it? |
17:15.50 | goibhniu | polyunix: I have a set too ... I'll also try to remember to bring em |
17:16.14 | polyunix | goibhniu: thank you |
17:17.15 | polyunix | i will try to collect dead ibook from the shop in the morning. |
17:17.23 | wethrin | polyunix: I'm just curious |
17:17.31 | wethrin | Is it your IRC client set up to do it? |
17:17.38 | polyunix | no |
17:17.45 | polyunix | it's me |
17:18.00 | wethrin | carry on :) |
17:18.27 | polyunix | ok |
17:18.33 | polyunix | wethrin>: ! |
17:19.20 | polyunix | wethrin>: it looks a bit unusual, but useless. |
17:19.59 | rhowe | http://www.csun.edu/~cdg15757/health-medicine/memory-foam-mattress-story.html |
17:20.08 | wethrin | yeah - unusual, hence I was wondering |
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17:20.21 | wethrin | I've seen people using emacs IRC clients who put a '>' after nicknames, rather than a : |
17:20.32 | wethrin | rhowe! Will you come for lunch tomorrow? |
17:20.38 | rhowe | wethrin: Peraps |
17:20.47 | wethrin | rarr |
17:31.54 | polyunix | it looks like mac shop is closed tomorrow. there is no need in torx. :( |
17:32.03 | wethrin | okay |
17:34.18 | wethrin | Hm. Is a tenner for a (used but working) dual-head Matrox G450 AGP card reasonable? |
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17:52.03 | *** topic/#gllug is Next Gllug meeting TOMORROW (Sat. 22nd), Westminster University | http://www.gllug.org.uk | http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
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18:49.33 | wethrin | :) |
19:04.59 | wethrin | So. It looks like tomorrow will be Gllug's 10th anniversary |
19:16.40 | murb | really? |
19:16.47 | wethrin | Yup |
19:17.05 | murb | how are you dating it? |
19:17.10 | wethrin | Well, last week was Gllug's 10th |
19:17.13 | wethrin | Tomorrow's the meeting |
19:17.22 | wethrin | http://shorterlink.org/3139 |
19:17.29 | wethrin | 13th Sep. 1997 was the first meeting |
19:18.05 | murb | oh i was at the meeting, but are you sure it was really the first? |
19:18.14 | wethrin | apparently |
19:18.36 | wethrin | So it's claimed, etc. |
19:18.40 | wethrin | And with that, I'm off. |
20:53.10 | clive-h | Is the meet tomorrow still on? |
21:08.44 | goibhniu | yep |
21:09.04 | clive-h | okay |
21:09.06 | goibhniu | jason from the ukfsn is filling in |
21:09.12 | clive-h | ahh right |
21:09.22 | clive-h | what's jason talking about? |
21:09.36 | goibhniu | dunno :) |
21:10.03 | clive-h | Intrigueing |
21:10.14 | goibhniu | the mystery talk |
21:11.16 | clive-h | I'm very uninterested in the games one |
21:11.48 | goibhniu | oh ... I'm looking forward to that |
21:12.03 | clive-h | I'm not a gamer |
21:12.09 | goibhniu | are you thinking twice about going? |
21:12.32 | goibhniu | I'm not a gamer either ... but I'm curious |
21:12.37 | clive-h | I'll come along |
21:12.52 | goibhniu | I heard sierra are hiring lots of linux devs lately |
21:12.59 | goibhniu | they make half-life |
21:13.05 | clive-h | I'm a sysad |
21:13.07 | goibhniu | that's about all I know about gaming :) |
21:13.14 | clive-h | Not a developer |
21:13.28 | clive-h | i've some linux games |
21:13.46 | clive-h | but these days wine will run most windows stuff |
21:14.11 | goibhniu | true ... faster than vista too afaik |
21:14.43 | clive-h | I have Vista on this laptop |
21:14.52 | clive-h | It's deadly slow |
21:15.17 | clive-h | But it's there if I need it |
21:15.30 | clive-h | I normally use linux on all of my boxes |
21:15.45 | clive-h | except the suns and the mac |
21:16.00 | goibhniu | I've kept xp on this machine too |
21:16.19 | goibhniu | I was desperate to install IE7 on it once ... but I couldn't and gave up :) |
21:16.27 | goibhniu | wine 4tw! |
21:16.38 | clive-h | I've xp pro under vmware on this |
21:16.52 | clive-h | Ie7 sort of runs on linux |
21:17.47 | clive-h | IE6 works well |
21:18.07 | boudiccas | i've installed ie6 using wine-doors |
21:18.28 | clive-h | I used ies4linux |
21:18.35 | goibhniu | I heard wine-doors was nice |
21:18.47 | clive-h | I've no idea what wine-doors is |
21:18.57 | boudiccas | it is and its under constant development atm |
21:19.19 | goibhniu | it does the tweaking you'd otherwise need to do manually to get stuff to work with wine afaik |
21:19.22 | boudiccas | clive-h; its like yumex for wine |
21:20.17 | goibhniu | wow ... is it like a package manager? |
21:20.48 | clive-h | sounds like it |
21:21.09 | boudiccas | i'm not sure, its still under active development |
22:05.12 | clive-h | it's not in any of the F7 repos I ahve |
22:05.14 | clive-h | have |
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22:51.10 | aguaithefreak | is the Cavindish st close to the Regent Campus? |
22:51.22 | aguaithefreak | or any other one? |
22:51.37 | clive-h | not particularly |
22:52.12 | clive-h | nearest tubes are goodge street |
22:52.19 | clive-h | or warren st |
22:53.53 | clive-h | it's quite near ULU |
22:55.42 | aguaithefreak | OK and there will be a ....classroom or something? |
22:56.31 | clive-h | I'll guess probably classrooms |
22:56.42 | clive-h | and a lecture theatre |
22:57.13 | clive-h | you could easily walk from oxford circus |
22:58.21 | aguaithefreak | clive-h: thx |
22:58.34 | aguaithefreak | see you then........ |
22:58.41 | clive-h | aye |
22:59.50 | clive-h | no idea |
23:00.08 | clive-h | Not been to a gllug meet in years# |
23:01.46 | aguaithefreak | however it seems to be fun..... |
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23:49.12 | clive-h | Hmmm |
23:54.34 | z00dax | hummm |
23:54.54 | clive-h | indeedd |
23:56.34 | clive-h | I think I know where the venue for tomorrow is noqw |
23:58.36 | z00dax | excellent |
23:58.42 | z00dax | you mean later today ofcourse |
23:58.56 | clive-h | indeed |
23:59.21 | clive-h | via the KFC probably on TCR |