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00:02.14Leedsrussia declares a lot of things
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01:04.34ArmandAnyone awake?
01:04.45Discordianjust
01:04.51Armand:)
01:05.02ArmandJust watching Tank Girl...
01:05.25Discordiani'm not watching telly
01:05.56Discordiancan't afford to do that and IRC these days
01:05.58ArmandIt's the only thing on worth watching, after Virgin fked up half me channels.
01:06.13Armand"can't afford" ?
01:06.30DiscordianI'm unemployed
01:06.39ArmandAhh.. likewise. :P
01:06.46DiscordianI found 5 quid down the back of the sofa
01:06.52ArmandW00! :)
01:06.57DiscordianSo I can eat tomorrow
01:07.02ArmandO_o
01:07.23ArmandI've got my JSA money coming through today. :D
01:07.57DiscordianMine's been stopped
01:08.01Armandfuckers.
01:08.04Armandwhy?
01:08.10DiscordianCos I went to an interview for a job
01:08.15ArmandO_o
01:08.18Discordianrather than signon
01:08.22Armandoops
01:09.04ArmandIf I get an interview on my signing day, I sign-on first thing in the morning.
01:09.26DiscordianYes but I live in South east london
01:09.47Discordianand the interview was in Staines at 10:30
01:09.51ArmandAhhh..
01:09.55Armandlong travel time.
01:10.16Discordiani left crayford at 8;30 to get there in time
01:10.38Armandyeah, anywhere in/around london means long travel times. :P
01:11.37DiscordianSo I'm getting hit for actually trying to get a job
01:11.54Armandthey are such 'tards.
01:23.08ArmandI've only recently started my claim, after getting kicked out of my mum's for not having a job. :P
01:25.00DiscordianI left it 6 months before claiming
01:25.36ArmandThis will be my second payment today.
01:28.07Armand£50 is gone on rent to my mate.
01:28.31Discordianthat's a big chunk
01:28.36ArmandI know..
01:28.57ArmandStill gotta get some trousers, a shirt, hopefully some shoes, and maybe some weed.
01:29.40Discordianand maybe food?
01:30.04Armandyeah, but not much.. we are doing ok for food atm.
01:31.09Armandbesides, if he don't buy some food out of his wages, I'm gonna sling him out. :P
01:31.53Discordianheh
01:44.59Armanduh-oh.. time to go.
01:45.02Armandlaters. :D
01:45.13DiscordianGood night
01:45.24Armandhope so. :)
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08:30.43rhowehmm
08:30.53goibhniuhi rhowe
08:31.00goibhniudid you get my message?
08:31.04rhowehey goibhniu. Got your message, ta
08:31.09rhowegoibhniu: We're still not
08:31.10goibhniucool
08:31.12rhowea) Packed
08:31.21rhoweb) set up for transport
08:31.31rhowec) Set up for somewhere to store our things until the new flat's ready
08:31.36rhoweStill, got 2 days :P
08:31.50goibhniueek! ... you need a trike!
08:32.24goibhniuI'm waiting in the new place now .. .for the bt engineer to do his/her thang to my new phone line
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08:33.37goibhniubut you can't move straight into your new flat? ... that's gonna be tricky!
08:37.05rhowegoibhniu: Sure is :)
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09:45.14polyunixmorning
10:15.43Ch0HagWho'd have thought exporting mailboxes from exchange was impossible?
10:17.42antiphaseUse IMAP
10:17.54antiphaseand move them to a proper system
10:18.25Ch0HagI really don't want to have to connect to each mailbox manually to get at old emails they probably don't even need any more.
10:18.34Ch0HagThat'sfar too much hassle.
10:19.15Ch0HagAnd they have a proper system, I'm working on getting stuff off the server they haven't even used in over a year.
10:20.09Ch0HagIdeally I want something fast because this box is bloody loud.
10:21.34antiphaseWrite a shell script to use imapsync
10:21.44antiphaseMove away from the mouse, Windows boy
10:21.59Ch0HagUh, yes...
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11:03.06blightIs it possible to build a kernel module, using the source for the running kernel and inserting that module into the running kernel, without actually installing the kernel that the module was built with?
11:03.32blightThat's is make modules, insmod the module, so skipping the actuall kernel install - assuming that the builds are the same
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11:08.06antiphaseIf you build the module against a compatible source and headers as the running kernel, there's no reason why not
11:08.47ArmandAfternoon. :)
11:13.38blightantiphase: thanks - thought so ...
11:16.59ArmandAnyone tried debian hurd yet?
11:18.44Ch0HagTried it for what?
11:19.03Armanderm, general usage.. testing?
11:19.28Ch0HagIt boots.
11:19.39Ch0HagI never bothered playing with X though.
11:20.11ArmandI have to have a GUI..
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11:25.39ArmandI know next to shit about installing/configuring from source
11:26.30ArmandI'm hoping X/KDE etc will come up on the package list and will setup on install. :)
11:27.17Armandnuts, shopping.
11:28.24AnneChas anyone tried the basic debian on a laptop lately?
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11:39.59Ch0HagNot lately.
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11:41.36Ch0HagIt seems you can gdm to start lots of X servers, but they must all be the same.
11:41.53Ch0HagYou can't start, say, Xorg and Xvnc.
11:42.00Ch0HagBecause why would anybody want to do that?
11:42.10Ch0HagBloody GUI configurators...
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13:30.18blightI'm getting "Invalid module format" when trying to insert a newly compiled module into the kernel, using the same source as the running kernel ... any ideas why?
13:31.42blightahh dmesg reveals all
13:32.52gregjor modprobe -v
13:32.52gregjand modinfo
13:32.54gregj;]
13:35.36blightgregj: ta
13:35.55blightgregj: I blame flu medication
13:36.08Armandcop-out.. *cough* :P
13:36.50blightArmand: ;-P
13:36.58Armand:)
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13:41.54haliboink
13:42.10Armandsproing
13:43.30boudiccasmwop
13:43.54dick_turpinAh shut your face
13:47.02boudiccasdick_turpin; tut tut!
13:51.05hali"reloading his plasma rifle" is that an acronym for reading pr0n?
13:51.17Armandfresh tissues?? :P
13:51.33blightOkay, maybe I'm just dumb: # uname -r
13:51.33blight2.6.9-55.0.2.ELsmp modinfo cp2101.ko | grep vermag
13:51.33blightvermagic:       2.6.9-55.0.2.ELsmp SMP gcc-3.4
13:51.45blightAnd I still can't insmod
13:52.31boudiccasi bit my tongue last night and its still sore now :(
13:53.06boudiccasdick_turpin; so, what time did you get to bed then ? and whats the game like? any good?
13:53.17ArmandHalo3 is teh poo.. Never as good as CS:S. :)
13:53.33Armand:flamey: ^_^
13:54.09dick_turpinboudiccas: I think its awsome, I don't give a stuff what anyone else thinks
13:54.42boudiccasdick_turpin; so what time did you get to bed then? :)
13:54.54dick_turpinboudiccas: got to bed about midnight, was back on it at 5.00am this morning, poor dog had to pee in the kitchen
13:55.02boudiccaslol
13:55.19dick_turpinboudiccas: Don't laugh I forgot we had him
13:55.30boudiccasrofl
13:55.53Armandlol
13:55.56Armandn00b!
13:56.24dick_turpinboudiccas: The wife phoned at 08.10 to make sure I'd come off and was going to work
13:57.02boudiccasdick_turpin; seems like she's got your number then and knows what you're like :)))
13:57.53dick_turpinboudiccas: First thing she said was "Have you finnished it then?"
13:58.04dick_turpinfinished
14:05.05boudiccasdick_turpin; and had you?
14:06.19dick_turpinboudiccas: Not yet, round three in 2hrs 45mins
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14:32.55dick_turpinwethrin: You about?
14:37.51boudiccasabout what?
14:39.10dick_turpinboudiccas: 4ft 3"
14:39.55boudiccasyou've been out in the rain then and shrunk! you were bigger than that in your photo from rome!
14:40.26dick_turpinboudiccas: Heeeelllloooo big bot ;-)
14:40.33dick_turpinboy
14:40.50dick_turpinbloody keys
14:40.54Armandlol
14:41.13Armandsok, I'm still getting used to this damned laptop.
14:41.36dick_turpinboudiccas: Got two more presents-to-self to get
14:41.52boudiccaswhy? is it your birthday?
14:42.25dick_turpinboudiccas: When you're as good looking as me every day is your birthday
14:42.29boudiccaslol
14:42.38Armandnah, he's just self absorbed. :P
14:42.46dick_turpinboudiccas: 300 the HD version
14:42.51ArmandO_O
14:42.53ArmandNice!
14:43.05Armandwhich format?
14:43.12Armanddisc, i mean..
14:43.23dick_turpinArmand: Um PAl I suppose
14:43.32Armanddisc, i mean..
14:44.08dick_turpinboudiccas: Then, wait for it, openSUSE 10.3 It looks awesome
14:44.49dick_turpinArmand: DVD? it'll be the expensive one, I don't do cheap
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14:46.12ArmandYou'll be wanting Blu-ray then. :)
14:46.52ArmandI swear HD-DVD has some loosy compression.. still looks shit.
14:47.03Armandlossy. ?
14:47.09Armanddunno. :P
14:47.35dick_turpinArmand: I've not moved over to a burning solution yet, still using VHS to record programs
14:47.50ArmandO_O
14:47.53ArmandTAPES!!!
14:47.58antiphaseThey all have lossy compression
14:48.12ArmandI mean "SERIOUSLY" lossy..
14:48.21Armandlike, artifacts and shit.
14:48.27antiphaseYour telly's probably cheap ;)
14:49.07Armandmy mate has Blu-ray & HD-DVD on a 42" (?) LG HD-LCD.. Blu-ray looks much better than HD-DVD
14:49.45dick_turpinSaw an all singing all dancing Sony DVD unit that supposedly would record in any format, I suppose I ought to get something sorted
14:50.16ArmandNot Sony.. !?!
14:50.20Armandeeeewww.. much!
14:51.19dick_turpinMy HD Plasma screen is Samsung, the DVD combi is LG
14:52.40haliblu-ray and hd-dvd should look very similar as it is the same codec etc
14:53.06Armandthe underlying tech is quite different..
14:53.31Armandalthough the difference in quality *might* have been something to do with the specific titles he has.. ?
14:57.16haliprobably, not sure if there are any titles available on both ... im sure some AV nerds would buy both and compare :)
14:57.24Armandprobably. :)
14:57.35Armandsure as hell not me though.
14:57.41ArmandI'm going for Blu-ray
14:57.46dick_turpinWow this'll get everyones back up http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdotLinux/~3/162008651/article.pl Novell's Linux is best because it works with Microsoft!!
14:57.50halii'm still waiting for an affordable USB hd-dvd/blu-ray combo drive for my mythtv box
14:58.12ArmandWill USB be fast enough for that?
14:58.12haliim in the blu-ray camp as well, but would rather have both
14:59.42ArmandI'm with Blu-ray, as it looks like the better tech.. and DVD should be dumped properly.
14:59.50boudiccasSaid one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.'
14:59.55Armandlol
15:00.06haliusb is 400something mbit, hd-dvd/blu-ray is 72mbit in 2x
15:00.10ArmandIn reference to Yanks, I take it?
15:00.16Armandk
15:01.21ArmandI forget speeds, not really than important to me as I mostly use USB for peripherals, not drives.
15:01.38ArmandI only have the 1 USB HDD, and that was a freebie.
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15:33.15Blaptohi de hi
15:33.33boudiccasho de ho
15:35.20BlaptoHow's tricks?
15:35.49etorixhttp://ko-htike.blogspot.com/
15:36.59BlaptoAny Apache gods in here?
15:37.13BlaptoOr godesses
15:37.13boudiccasdon't know tricks. who is tricks?
15:37.17boudiccaslol
15:37.20BlaptoA puppy.
15:37.25boudiccasah
15:37.38BlaptoI can't get directory indexes to work.  My httpd.conf is quite bare, but I do have Options Indexes in the <directory> bit.  Regardless, I get a 404, with "Attempt to serve directory" in the error log.
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17:14.03Armandkthanxbai!
18:08.31DiscordianLo z00dax
18:08.46z00daxDiscordian: lo
18:08.57Discordian<-- clive-h
18:19.29hali<-- hali
18:19.46haliand im out of food and it's cold outside.. this is not good
18:19.55z00daxnot really
18:19.59z00daxunless you order a delivery
18:20.08z00daxin which case, someone else will need to fight the cold
18:20.08DiscordianI'm gonna order in
18:20.22z00daxits quite nice here, the AirCon is turned upto 18Deg
18:20.30z00daxs/upto/down/
18:20.41DiscordianI'm thinking crispy duck at the moment
18:20.50halifliedlies?
18:20.53Discordianand some kind of curry
18:21.16Discordiani don't like rice much
18:21.23halihm, my efnet session died.. must be the weather
18:21.56Discordianamazingly I got an interview out of gumtree
18:23.35halicool
18:23.41haliaussie company? :)
18:23.52halinothing but aussies and kiwis on gumtree, and a couple of saffers
18:24.13DiscordianBut you get IT stuff there
18:24.28Discordianand I got an interview from it
18:24.36wethrinahoy
18:24.38halihave to admit i've hardly ever browsed gumtree
18:24.50DiscordianI'm london born and bred
18:25.11BlaptoA friend of mine got a date off gumtree!
18:25.35halia friend of mine got a folding bike off gumtree (he's kiwi though)
18:25.40DiscordianIt does have a dating site
18:25.51Discordianand there's the freebies stuff
18:26.10z00daxright, i am off now
18:26.20Discordianbye z00dax
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