| 00:04.53 | morsing | Discordian! |
| 00:05.05 | morsing | xotl: 3.5 weeks |
| 00:05.06 | Discordian | Hi |
| 00:05.57 | morsing | ping goibhniu |
| 00:06.22 | goibhniu | morsing: how are you? |
| 00:07.16 | morsing | goibhniu: I'm great :) |
| 00:07.38 | morsing | Apparently this thing is just for a few hours and I can go home |
| 00:07.51 | goibhniu | nice |
| 00:08.08 | goibhniu | but it does have something to do with rugby :( |
| 00:08.17 | goibhniu | xteddy: do you like rugby? |
| 00:08.18 | xteddy | :) |
| 00:08.21 | morsing | IT doesn't actually. My mistake |
| 00:08.31 | morsing | It's a software release |
| 00:08.36 | goibhniu | ahh ... all good news then :) |
| 00:10.12 | morsing | xteddy gimme some cake |
| 00:10.13 | xteddy | *cuts a slice* fresh baked cake coming up :) |
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| 00:18.32 | morsing | polyunix_! |
| 00:33.15 | xotl | goodnight |
| 00:33.34 | Discordian | night |
| 00:37.32 | morsing | goibhniu: Are you at work? |
| 00:38.17 | morsing | xteddy fetch goibhniu |
| 00:38.17 | xteddy | brb |
| 00:41.40 | morsing | O goibhniu where art thou?! |
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| 01:23.59 | morsing | Avnit97! |
| 01:54.05 | morsing | Anyone awake? |
| 02:10.20 | gregj | http://scenic.k4lab.com/~gj/ripi.mp3 |
| 02:27.14 | morsing | Isn't it odd... I had four hours sleep before going to work but I still feel extremely tired |
| 02:38.26 | morsing | gregj: When does Leeds normally join? |
| 02:44.34 | morsing | gregj? |
| 03:07.21 | morsing | Anyone awake? |
| 03:20.42 | morsing | ~seen anenc |
| 03:20.44 | ibot | i haven't seen 'anenc', morsing |
| 03:20.47 | morsing | ~seen annec |
| 03:20.47 | ibot | annec <n=AnneC@87-194-46-187.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2d 18h 50m 41s ago, saying: 'morsing!'. |
| 04:34.49 | morsing | Anyone awake?# |
| 04:38.34 | sabinef72 | me |
| 04:38.55 | morsing | sabinef72!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:39.00 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
| 04:39.05 | morsing | I missed you :) |
| 04:39.10 | sabinef72 | me too |
| 04:39.11 | morsing | How are you? |
| 04:39.15 | sabinef72 | not so good |
| 04:39.19 | morsing | You missed you too? :? |
| 04:39.22 | sabinef72 | I have some problems |
| 04:39.26 | morsing | Why not good? :( |
| 04:39.44 | sabinef72 | I don't know the english word for that |
| 04:39.51 | morsing | :( |
| 04:39.56 | sabinef72 | I have to much water in my legs and hands |
| 04:40.04 | morsing | Oh... |
| 04:40.04 | sabinef72 | so they are pump up too much |
| 04:40.09 | morsing | :( |
| 04:41.03 | sabinef72 | it could be normal for a pregnant woman but I have to be careful |
| 04:41.24 | morsing | Ok |
| 04:41.29 | morsing | You're up early |
| 04:41.30 | sabinef72 | if it's too much the doctor can provoke the birth |
| 04:41.49 | sabinef72 | yes I can't sleep more today. My legs are hurting me |
| 04:41.58 | morsing | :( |
| 04:42.05 | morsing | Doesn't sound like much fun |
| 04:42.21 | sabinef72 | yes ! |
| 04:42.28 | sabinef72 | but the end will come up soon ! |
| 04:42.33 | sabinef72 | and you how are you ? |
| 04:42.34 | morsing | Up? |
| 04:42.49 | sabinef72 | don't make me mad with the stupid "up"........ |
| 04:42.58 | morsing | I'm good thanks but I have a cold and have been at work since 1am so I'm very tired |
| 04:43.02 | morsing | sabinef72: :D |
| 04:43.02 | sabinef72 | I will never know when it's right to use "up" !!!!!!!!! |
| 04:43.10 | morsing | Sorry! :( |
| 04:43.18 | sabinef72 | lol |
| 04:43.34 | sabinef72 | our nice mozrat always loves to make me mad with "up" |
| 04:43.46 | morsing | :) |
| 04:43.51 | morsing | Where is mozrat? :( |
| 04:44.01 | sabinef72 | somewhere in england....... |
| 04:44.10 | sabinef72 | I really have no news from him |
| 04:44.13 | morsing | :( |
| 04:44.16 | sabinef72 | do you have some ? |
| 04:44.20 | morsing | No... |
| 04:44.31 | sabinef72 | it's a pity because it's a good guy |
| 04:44.47 | morsing | Yes |
| 04:44.49 | sabinef72 | did he stop all in Gllug ? |
| 04:45.09 | sabinef72 | I think his new job took all his time |
| 04:45.33 | morsing | I don't know |
| 04:45.49 | sabinef72 | I have no news since his new job |
| 04:45.55 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 04:46.02 | morsing | Can I go home soon? |
| 04:46.09 | sabinef72 | something like december or january |
| 04:46.21 | sabinef72 | are you at work now ? |
| 04:46.58 | morsing | Yes |
| 04:47.09 | sabinef72 | why time is it in england ? |
| 04:47.19 | morsing | 5:50 |
| 04:47.48 | sabinef72 | oh 1 hour more in france because we are still in summer hour |
| 04:47.58 | sabinef72 | we will change at the end of the month |
| 04:48.26 | morsing | It's always one hour... |
| 04:48.40 | sabinef72 | sure ? |
| 04:48.48 | morsing | Very, very sure! |
| 04:48.49 | sabinef72 | let me think what will we do in end of october |
| 04:49.14 | sabinef72 | we will have one hour more I think |
| 04:49.20 | morsing | ? |
| 04:49.53 | Discordian | UK will revert to GMT end of October |
| 04:49.54 | sabinef72 | noooooo |
| 04:50.16 | sabinef72 | 28 octobre |
| 04:50.16 | sabinef72 | (à 3 heures du matin il sera 2 heures) |
| 04:50.18 | sabinef72 | that means |
| 04:50.34 | sabinef72 | october 28 th (winter hour) : at 3 am it will be 2 am |
| 04:50.38 | Discordian | at 3am it'll bd 3am |
| 04:51.19 | morsing | Discordian: You suck |
| 04:51.28 | sabinef72 | so if england will do nothing about the hour, after october 28 th we will have the same hour |
| 04:51.30 | morsing | sabinef72: You're right, the clock goes back |
| 04:51.39 | sabinef72 | because now, it's 06.55 |
| 04:51.40 | morsing | sabinef72: No we won't. |
| 04:51.53 | morsing | sabinef72: No - we'll always be an hour behind |
| 04:51.57 | morsing | sabinef72: No - we'll always be an hour apart |
| 04:51.57 | sabinef72 | I know we are stupid |
| 04:52.33 | Discordian | On ICL mainframes we used to have to power down the CPU for an hour |
| 04:52.37 | Discordian | I suck? |
| 04:52.50 | morsing | Discordian: Well, your social skills are rubbish |
| 04:53.11 | Discordian | Duh# |
| 04:53.37 | morsing | We have on-site cover because of it |
| 04:53.39 | Discordian | Cos I typoed one character> |
| 04:54.04 | sabinef72 | morsing: why are you at work so early ? |
| 04:54.13 | morsing | sabinef72: Deployment since 2am |
| 04:54.28 | sabinef72 | woahhhhhhhh |
| 04:54.46 | sabinef72 | aren't you too much tired ? |
| 04:54.50 | morsing | YEs... :( |
| 04:55.05 | sabinef72 | so you don't sleep this night ??????? |
| 04:56.20 | morsing | I slept from 6-10pm |
| 04:57.15 | Discordian | You're very acerbic, morsing |
| 04:57.26 | morsing | Sure - if you want me to be |
| 04:58.25 | sabinef72 | crazy |
| 04:58.26 | morsing | Discordian: Why do you say that? |
| 04:58.27 | sabinef72 | you should come back at home |
| 04:58.33 | morsing | sabinef72: Can't just yet |
| 04:58.57 | sabinef72 | :-( |
| 04:59.04 | morsing | zzz |
| 04:59.07 | sabinef72 | well I will go to eat a bit |
| 04:59.13 | sabinef72 | see you later |
| 04:59.14 | Discordian | You always appear confrontaional |
| 04:59.36 | morsing | Discordian: ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH?!?!?!?!? |
| 04:59.42 | Discordian | Breakfast would make sense |
| 04:59.51 | morsing | *I* am not the confrontational one! |
| 04:59.59 | Discordian | No why are you shouting? |
| 05:00.08 | morsing | You, cpufreak, antiphase, bilarh, etc are the confrontational ones! |
| 05:00.24 | morsing | I'm just here for a friendly chat |
| 05:00.43 | morsing | sabinef72: Do you find me confrontational? |
| 05:00.50 | Discordian | You were shouting? |
| 05:01.30 | morsing | Discordian: Because it's just about the dumbest thing I've heard this month. I'm a friendly social guy but a lot of you people here are only out to provoke people |
| 05:01.56 | Discordian | I didn't shout |
| 05:02.16 | morsing | No - but you're just here to provoke people. |
| 05:02.21 | morsing | sabinef72: :) |
| 05:02.42 | sabinef72 | so now : breakfast !!!!! |
| 05:02.47 | morsing | sabinef72: :) |
| 05:02.52 | Discordian | I'm hardly here to provoke people |
| 05:03.03 | morsing | Discordian: So we is that all you do? |
| 05:03.30 | morsing | Sorry, I don't want to argue. It's against me personality... |
| 05:03.53 | Discordian | Though I probably do have more in common with antiphase and cpufreak |
| 05:04.37 | Discordian | since they're actually linux people |
| 05:05.00 | morsing | And you're doing it again... |
| 05:05.17 | morsing | How long have you bneen using Linux for? |
| 05:05.24 | Discordian | This is #gllug I think |
| 05:05.32 | Discordian | since 1992 |
| 05:05.35 | morsing | And again... |
| 05:05.57 | morsing | How can you call me confrontational and then go on to behave like that? |
| 05:06.02 | Discordian | Your point was? |
| 05:06.42 | Discordian | Unless I missed something |
| 05:06.52 | morsing | Point with what? |
| 05:06.53 | Discordian | This is a linux channel |
| 05:07.12 | morsing | I never made that point?! |
| 05:07.23 | morsing | And you're being confrontational again |
| 05:07.59 | morsing | And why do you keep saying that? |
| 05:08.09 | Discordian | Now I thought I was merely stating the bleeding obvious |
| 05:08.31 | morsing | And now you're just being rude - a trademark of Linux people I know... |
| 05:08.56 | morsing | You still haven't explained why you keep stating it though |
| 05:09.09 | Discordian | You're an AIX person aren't you? |
| 05:09.15 | morsing | Yes...? |
| 05:09.29 | morsing | Well, depends what you mean by that? |
| 05:09.33 | Discordian | so why are you on a linux channel? |
| 05:09.42 | morsing | Just to annoy you! |
| 05:10.04 | Discordian | You manage that amirably |
| 05:10.14 | Discordian | admirably |
| 05:10.39 | morsing | I'm here because I use Linux - and have so daily for 11 years - and because I want to help new Linux users and be social. Also because I was active attending meeting up until I moved too far away three years ago. |
| 05:10.42 | Discordian | I'd never infest an aix channel |
| 05:10.59 | morsing | But anyway, it doesn't say anywhere that non-Linux users can be here... |
| 05:11.05 | Discordian | sjnce I know nothing about aix |
| 05:11.29 | Discordian | since |
| 05:11.35 | morsing | Discordian: Can you not explain to me why it is you think I annoy you? I was chatting to sabinef72 and you attacked me as usual? |
| 05:11.42 | Discordian | That's a good reason to be here |
| 05:11.57 | Discordian | If you talk to channel |
| 05:12.13 | Discordian | anyway can join in |
| 05:12.24 | Discordian | sorry that's how IRC works |
| 05:12.54 | morsing | No it isn't - just because you're on IRC it doesn't mean you can hide behind some nick and be rude to people |
| 05:13.19 | Discordian | Hide behind some nick? |
| 05:13.37 | morsing | Well, would you behave this way to my face? I hope not... |
| 05:13.48 | morsing | If so I would love to meet you! |
| 05:14.48 | Discordian | If you mean would we have this same conversation, face to face yes |
| 05:15.10 | morsing | Then you are a nasty person and the world would be better off without you! |
| 05:15.30 | Discordian | Now who's being confrontational? |
| 05:15.38 | morsing | *sigh* |
| 05:15.55 | Discordian | I don't recall wishing you dead |
| 05:16.12 | morsing | No but I'm a nice person so why would you? |
| 05:16.25 | morsing | I don't go round attacking strangers verbally |
| 05:17.24 | Discordian | i'don't go round wishing strangers were dead |
| 05:18.12 | Discordian | I fail to see how that makes you a nicer person |
| 05:18.14 | morsing | I give up - clearly the only reason you're on IRC is because you don't get alonog with people in the real world |
| 05:18.26 | morsing | s/alonog/along/ |
| 05:19.11 | Discordian | wow |
| 05:19.27 | Discordian | I'm impressed now |
| 05:19.45 | Discordian | Such wit |
| 05:33.29 | morsing | Thanks - bless you for leaving. F****** A****** |
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| 05:51.01 | Discordian | I apologise |
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| 08:34.24 | phearless | hi folks ! |
| 08:42.48 | polyunix | morning |
| 08:54.53 | jcookeman | hey folks |
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| 09:11.19 | bilarh | *sigh* |
| 09:11.30 | bilarh | i'm feeling fat and useless today |
| 09:11.51 | antiphase | You should eat less |
| 09:11.55 | bilarh | and why the hell is it so gray and shitty looking outside? |
| 09:12.26 | bilarh | i'm so going to the gym today |
| 09:12.28 | Armand | wow.. so it is! |
| 09:12.52 | bilarh | i need a good programming project |
| 09:13.16 | Armand | any good with games dev? :D |
| 09:13.27 | bilarh | not really :-) |
| 09:13.31 | Armand | dang |
| 09:13.35 | bilarh | i only do system tools really :-) |
| 09:13.48 | Armand | cool |
| 09:14.12 | Armand | I tryed to use Visual Basic once.. O_o |
| 09:14.24 | jcookeman | games are for pussies |
| 09:14.45 | Armand | ¬_¬ |
| 09:16.07 | Armand | games are the only reason I have a big-ass desktop PC. |
| 09:16.44 | jcookeman | and probably a big ass |
| 09:17.22 | Armand | nah, I only have a 30" waist.. |
| 09:17.35 | Armand | I'm lean. :D |
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| 09:54.47 | hali | pigdog, hmm, we have a server called pigfish |
| 09:59.00 | goibhniu | interesting ... after "Bodianus unimaculatus" or "a punk band from the Midlands, UK"? |
| 10:01.01 | bilarh | hmm.. isn't there a fable creature called the 'spider pig' or some such? |
| 10:01.55 | hali | sounds more like a villain in a super-hero cartoon |
| 10:02.15 | hali | "holy smokes batcat, it's spider pig!" |
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| 10:05.41 | goibhni1 | !! ... it fscking worked! |
| 10:07.01 | goibhni1 | netstat -nlp said there was nothing running on 80, yet apache thought there was ... where did I go wrong? |
| 10:08.15 | antiphase | Not using ps before asking a silly question ;) |
| 10:09.16 | goibhni1 | I did, no apache or httpd |
| 10:10.40 | antiphase | It probably died horribly and didn't remove its PID file then |
| 10:10.45 | goibhni1 | shouldn't netstat -nlp say if 80 is being used or is it only on a good day? |
| 10:11.28 | goibhni1 | hmm .. ok .. as long as it was a painful death I can live with it |
| 10:59.51 | Armand | byes! |
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| 11:56.55 | boudiccas | ~ibot seen secretlondon |
| 11:56.57 | ibot | secretlondon <n=secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 13h 39m 37s ago, saying: 'zzz *thud*'. |
| 11:57.13 | Leeds | I suspect she was sleepy... |
| 11:57.26 | boudiccas | evening Leeds :) |
| 11:57.50 | boudiccas | hi dick_turpin |
| 11:58.02 | Leeds | evening :-) |
| 11:58.24 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I'm leaning to the left as I only have half a scree :-) |
| 11:58.28 | Leeds | back in a mo |
| 11:58.46 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; i thought you were practising your italic writing |
| 11:59.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Don't its taken me 5 days (Inc today) to get openSUSE 10.3 and install it |
| 12:00.45 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, And the bloody desktop is scewed to the right (Not the left as said before) |
| 12:00.49 | boudiccas | troubles downloading or were the mirrors being swamped? |
| 12:01.21 | boudiccas | sounds like its got serious problems then, if its not running properly |
| 12:01.32 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Mirrors & Servers maxxed out, Novell had to stick some load balancing ones or before everything fell over |
| 12:01.41 | dick_turpin | maxed |
| 12:01.50 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (i=1000@pcd542061.netvigator.com) |
| 12:01.51 | dick_turpin | on |
| 12:02.08 | boudiccas | its all right, i was self-correcting as i read |
| 12:02.30 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Its coz I rush |
| 12:02.34 | boudiccas | are the screen and desktop fixable by you? |
| 12:02.50 | boudiccas | or will they only be fixed by updates coming from suse |
| 12:03.05 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Possibly, I reckon its this bloody videoseven 19 monitor thats the problem |
| 12:03.34 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, By the way I'm at home, holiday today |
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| 12:03.56 | boudiccas | oh! lucky you! another halo 3 day ?!! |
| 12:04.12 | Leeds | getting there... |
| 12:04.45 | boudiccas | Leeds; where is there? |
| 12:04.50 | boudiccas | lol |
| 12:04.58 | jcookeman | What you folks doing!! |
| 12:05.02 | jcookeman | lamers!! |
| 12:05.04 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I took Friday and Monday out to play with openSUSE grrrrr |
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| 12:05.29 | boudiccas | and you spent the time getting it fired up propelry, and still doing so |
| 12:05.39 | boudiccas | *properly |
| 12:05.51 | Leeds | there we go - a new version of afterstep, which is now putting the right windows at the right place on my virtual desktop(s) at login time |
| 12:06.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, It was only this morning that I finally got the 64 Bit version installed |
| 12:06.36 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, did a net-install |
| 12:07.28 | boudiccas | ah, 64 -bit. could that be part of the problem? |
| 12:07.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Possibly, although had this issue before under i386 |
| 12:08.34 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; can you remember what you did before to solve the problem? did you document it anywhere? |
| 12:09.27 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Theres no need to rub me nose in it ;-) Wadda you think? |
| 12:10.53 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; i always document stuff in my blog, so that it may help others with the same problem. and i also keep an old diary behind the keyboard with other vital information in, such as what the hard drives are, and the fstab setup |
| 12:11.03 | boudiccas | etc |
| 12:11.23 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; have you got your home directory backed up smoewhere? |
| 12:11.58 | boudiccas | *somewhere |
| 12:12.01 | Leeds | boudiccas: then you're a goodie-goodie :-P |
| 12:12.07 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Ah I have a little Red Book for that, I think its the refresh rate the manual says 60htz and its running @ 75htz |
| 12:12.42 | boudiccas | dick_turpin little red book of thoughts. on sale now from the chinese embassy |
| 12:13.24 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Ha I just fixed it coz I'm a clever Dick :-P |
| 12:13.26 | Leeds | they have it by the tills at the bookshops in town |
| 12:13.46 | boudiccas | i don't understand these htz things but i do know that they can screw up the display on the monitor if you get them wrong. |
| 12:14.12 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; so you've fixed the desktop as well have you? |
| 12:14.51 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Its still 5 or 6 millimetres over to the right but I can live with that for the minute |
| 12:15.00 | boudiccas | Leeds; when i was at boarding school it was considered 'cool' to have your own copy of the thoughts from the chinese embassy |
| 12:15.33 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; so document it ready for next time. start a blog and document it |
| 12:15.52 | dick_turpin | currently |
| 12:17.14 | boudiccas | Leeds; i might be a goodie two shoes with all my backups but i've lost data in the past so now i back it all up, just in case |
| 12:20.00 | boudiccas | pray silence whilst dick_turpin documents what hes just done :) |
| 12:20.26 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I was naughty |
| 12:20.41 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I cheated |
| 12:20.52 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; what did you? do |
| 12:21.05 | boudiccas | *what did you do? |
| 12:21.31 | dick_turpin | Everyone got your stale current buns ready? |
| 12:21.48 | boudiccas | yes, and in hurling stance ready |
| 12:22.32 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I have the Nvidia driver from Nvidia installed. I used that to configure the display (Ducks very quickly) |
| 12:22.43 | boudiccas | snuff |
| 12:23.12 | boudiccas | well, ducks. your way sounds to have worked ...... here, have a current bun |
| 12:23.23 | bilarh | could someone stop the world, please, i want to get off before i sick everywhere |
| 12:23.25 | goibhni1 | "Rule 4 - Tap the snuffbox with your middle and forefinger so that the powdered tobacco gathers at one side. This will also alert your acquaintances that snuff is about to be passed around." |
| 12:23.37 | dick_turpin | goibhni1, you old tart :-) |
| 12:23.53 | boudiccas | bilarh; whats wrong? |
| 12:24.07 | dick_turpin | ibot, slap bilarh on the bum |
| 12:24.08 | ibot | ACTION slaps bilarh on the bum, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 12:25.00 | goibhni1 | dick_turpin: I tried the new nvidia driver at the weekend .. it lasted about 5 minutes before my system locked :) |
| 12:25.23 | dick_turpin | goibhni1, Mines still working |
| 12:25.44 | dick_turpin | goibhni1, Sounds not for the minute |
| 12:26.16 | goibhni1 | that's odd ... I thought Suse was all about everything working out of the box? |
| 12:27.33 | boudiccas | you're going to laugh at this. last night i spent about fifteen minutes trying to get sounds to play in xmms so i could watch a film with xine and all to no avail. eventually i relaised that i hadn't switched my speakers on! Duh! |
| 12:27.36 | goibhni1 | it's fair enough if you replace the video drivers with the latest ones or something, but surely the sound should work |
| 12:27.51 | dick_turpin | goibhni1, Ah all these issues are my fault. I installed the 64 bit version coz I'm a masochist, and I downloaded the bare minimum so I could install then add |
| 12:27.56 | bilarh | ibot: surely you're the one with the grubby fingers now? |
| 12:28.28 | bilarh | boudiccas: today sucks |
| 12:28.32 | dick_turpin | bilarh, fancy a stale current bun? |
| 12:28.48 | bilarh | dick_turpin: does it come with new trousers? |
| 12:29.07 | boudiccas | bilarh; oh? whys that then? anyhting we can help with, commiserate with you about, or just laugh at you??? |
| 12:29.18 | dick_turpin | bilarh, You've not been running round the town in your underpants again have you? |
| 12:29.18 | bilarh | boudiccas: disk pack problem, stupid software that doesn't install |
| 12:29.33 | bilarh | boudiccas: my cars clutch has started slipping |
| 12:29.40 | bilarh | boudiccas: my cars gearbox is making funny noises |
| 12:29.49 | goibhni1 | xteddy: molest bilarh |
| 12:29.49 | xteddy | :) |
| 12:29.49 | bilarh | dick_turpin: well, funny you should say that |
| 12:30.04 | bilarh | dick_turpin: it turns out i have this massive rip in my crotch at the moment |
| 12:30.29 | boudiccas | bilarh; that sounds expensive for your car. lets hope that its not /too/ expensive |
| 12:30.33 | bilarh | dick_turpin: luckily, i'm wearing black hot pants |
| 12:30.45 | bilarh | boudiccas: should be about 800 *cry cry* |
| 12:30.49 | dick_turpin | bilarh, No thats a leather thong |
| 12:31.12 | bilarh | dick_turpin: shhh! at least it looks good on me |
| 12:31.34 | bilarh | so it means i'm down one piece of favourite suit as well |
| 12:31.56 | bilarh | ibot: lend me your shoulder, please |
| 12:32.05 | dick_turpin | bilarh, Seeing as there are no bulges you could have got away with a boot lace ;-) |
| 12:32.16 | bilarh | dick_turpin: lol |
| 12:32.20 | boudiccas | bilarh; now that /is/ expensive. have you got the money to cover it, or will you have to save up [and hope it doesn't worsen too much in the meanwhile] |
| 12:32.38 | bilarh | boudiccas: i'll have to save up and not drive too much i guess :-) |
| 12:33.02 | bilarh | i'm hoping it will stick together for a copuple of months still |
| 12:33.09 | boudiccas | bilarh; walking is good for you and also for the planet too |
| 12:33.32 | bilarh | boudiccas: stop it, you sound like david cameron |
| 12:33.50 | boudiccas | bilarh; god forbid i sound like that moron |
| 12:34.06 | bilarh | boudiccas: you must admit he's better than that idiot brown at least |
| 12:35.10 | boudiccas | bilarh; why must i? i happen to like the labour philosophy but i dont like brown |
| 12:35.27 | bilarh | boudiccas: you must because i say so :) |
| 12:35.42 | boudiccas | bilarh; sorry that cuts no ice with me :) |
| 12:35.57 | bilarh | boudiccas: you must because i say so :) |
| 12:36.05 | bilarh | the power of bilarh compells you |
| 12:36.12 | boudiccas | bilarh; sorry that cuts no ice with me :) |
| 12:36.36 | boudiccas | bilarh; sorry that cuts no ice with me :) |
| 12:36.58 | bilarh | don't make me take out the fire hose! |
| 12:37.11 | boudiccas | its taken us decades to put right all the damage and harm that Maggie Thatcher did to this country |
| 12:37.23 | bilarh | dick_turpin will tell you what happened to him when he brought his fire hose out on a web cam |
| 12:38.14 | bilarh | well, it just seems that during the last decade, there's been a massive increase in debt and public servants |
| 12:38.21 | bilarh | and everything is costing loads more |
| 12:38.28 | boudiccas | bilarh; if you /are/ a tory, then we'll just have to agree to differ because i'm not and we'll just end up arguing, so lets be friends and just not discuss it |
| 12:38.28 | bilarh | so they must be doing something wrong |
| 12:38.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh, I'm staying out of it, especially after what boudiccas has just said |
| 12:39.25 | bilarh | maybe it would have been the same or worse under the tories |
| 12:39.34 | bilarh | i'm quite intrigued by the lib dems myself |
| 12:40.02 | bilarh | boudiccas: i'm not really a tory myself, so we can still be friends ;-) |
| 12:40.07 | benoyst | morning |
| 12:40.41 | boudiccas | lol |
| 12:41.24 | bilarh | on a separate note |
| 12:41.33 | bilarh | i think i need anger management classes or something |
| 12:41.47 | bilarh | i've been really irritable lately |
| 12:41.58 | boudiccas | bilarh; why? when i needed them i just used to see a councellor |
| 12:42.16 | boudiccas | and got couincilled out of my anger |
| 12:42.25 | bilarh | and yesterday i almost lost it completely |
| 12:42.32 | bilarh | i was driving along quite happily |
| 12:42.35 | boudiccas | i know what i mean although i can't spell it right atm |
| 12:42.44 | bilarh | i know what you mean as well |
| 12:42.59 | bilarh | anyway, yesterday i was driving along and then waiting to turn right across a junction |
| 12:43.11 | bilarh | the traffic in the other direction was essentially stationary (3-4 cars could go every time |
| 12:43.43 | bilarh | so i finally got my green light so i could proceed and this driver pulled out into the yellow box section and essentially cut me off |
| 12:43.52 | boudiccas | moron! |
| 12:43.59 | boudiccas | not you, him |
| 12:44.01 | bilarh | yeah he was, but i think it was an honest mistake |
| 12:44.10 | bilarh | anyway, i went completely ballistic |
| 12:44.27 | bilarh | like sitting there shouting f-ing this, f-ing that |
| 12:44.32 | bilarh | hand gestures and all |
| 12:44.35 | boudiccas | did you stay in your car or get out? |
| 12:44.41 | bilarh | well, just about stayed in the car :P |
| 12:44.45 | boudiccas | if its all in your car then its not so bad |
| 12:45.02 | bilarh | well it is, it's completely out of character |
| 12:45.02 | boudiccas | its only bad, i reckon, if you get out of your car and lose it |
| 12:45.32 | boudiccas | so, what do you think is causing the irritableness? |
| 12:45.34 | bilarh | but i don't usually lose it at all |
| 12:46.14 | bilarh | i'm not sure to be honest |
| 12:47.07 | bilarh | maybe it's the weather |
| 12:47.26 | Leeds | too much blood in your alcohol system? |
| 12:47.32 | bilarh | i don't drink :) |
| 12:47.41 | boudiccas | what sad? seasonal affective disorder? depression caused by the lack of sunshine? |
| 12:48.07 | bilarh | never diagnosed with that, never quite made it to the quacks |
| 12:48.40 | boudiccas | do you feel brighter and more happy when the sun comes out and its a nice day? |
| 12:48.53 | bilarh | sweden used to be a nightmare in autumn / winter though |
| 12:48.58 | bilarh | yeah definitely |
| 12:49.01 | boudiccas | *more happy! [dumbo] happier is better |
| 12:49.09 | bilarh | i should get one of them mood lights or whatever they are |
| 12:49.11 | bilarh | called |
| 12:49.20 | boudiccas | sounds like you've got s.a.d. then |
| 12:49.24 | boudiccas | light boxes |
| 12:49.40 | bilarh | i just don't get it, though, how can it be so bloody *gray* outside... there's like *no* colour what so ever |
| 12:49.47 | boudiccas | they really do help s.a.d. sufferers |
| 12:49.50 | bilarh | just this gray soup |
| 12:50.19 | boudiccas | i suggest making an appointment and going to see your GP |
| 12:50.34 | bilarh | i need to get a gp first, i guess :-) |
| 12:50.37 | boudiccas | and tell him/her how you feel and see what they suggest |
| 12:50.50 | boudiccas | it would help bilarh |
| 12:51.08 | bilarh | do i just call a practice up and sign up, or how does it work? |
| 12:51.39 | boudiccas | i normally walk into the surgery of choice and ask if i can be put on their books, and take it from there |
| 12:51.49 | bilarh | i should be going to the gym today, that should help a bit as well |
| 12:52.12 | boudiccas | yes exercise helps by releasing endorphins |
| 12:54.10 | goibhni1 | bilarh: NHS have a clinic finder ... you can pop in your post code and shop around a bit ... you just need to bring proof of address when you register afaik |
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| 12:55.00 | goibhni1 | you can usually drop in too, but then you get a rushed 5 mins of "why exactly are you bothering me?" |
| 12:55.21 | bilarh | goibhnil: ah ok, cool :) |
| 12:55.27 | boudiccas | i haven't registered with a doctor since 1993 so i'm no longer uptodate with current new registration requirements |
| 12:55.31 | bilarh | goibhnil: on a separate issue, why the nick change? |
| 12:56.02 | goibhni1 | bilarh: I felt like something different today |
| 12:56.06 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hehe idiot :) |
| 12:56.18 | bilarh | goibhnil: cool :-) |
| 12:56.30 | goibhni1 | and I can't be bothered to do the ghost thing |
| 12:56.49 | dick_turpin | bilarh, Next time you feel down contact me and I'll give you a kicking :-P |
| 12:57.12 | bilarh | excellent, i'll keep that in mind :) |
| 12:57.17 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; ever the compassionate one :)))) |
| 12:57.38 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, e's ard ya know ard I tell ya |
| 12:58.23 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; its this foreign lingo you've started talking that i don't understand. you'll have to translate it if its important :) |
| 12:58.50 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, shut ya face :-P |
| 12:59.04 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; consider it shut! :) |
| 12:59.27 | boudiccas | wheres daisy? shes now been awol for three days |
| 12:59.43 | boudiccas | almost four days |
| 12:59.53 | boudiccas | and i'm worried about her |
| 12:59.57 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Only kidding (Crap this is xchat, help wheres me kisses smiley) |
| 13:00.13 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; i know, so don't woryy |
| 13:00.17 | boudiccas | *worry |
| 13:00.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, A'rd men don't worry ;-) |
| 13:00.53 | bilarh | is daisy a cow? |
| 13:00.55 | goibhni1 | xteddy: who's daisy? |
| 13:00.56 | xteddy | :) |
| 13:01.13 | bilarh | dick_turpin: did you take her out for a date? |
| 13:01.17 | boudiccas | in some cases bilarh yes. but in this context shes a friend in cuba |
| 13:01.32 | dick_turpin | bilarh, Who? |
| 13:01.35 | bilarh | boudiccas: dang! |
| 13:02.08 | bilarh | dick_turpin: daisy the milk factory |
| 13:03.05 | bilarh | heh, this is funny (from a software installation manual i'm reading): chown -R root:inst INSTDIR |
| 13:03.27 | dick_turpin | bilarh, Ther I am up to me arm pits in bits of configuration, trying to stop the pup pissing on the carpet and the wife will be home in a bit with a new hair do |
| 13:03.47 | dick_turpin | bilarh, And you ask me about some milk obssesd bird? |
| 13:03.51 | bilarh | Since my computer’s in a “domain”(group of networked computers) it is necessary to supply the domain name. If you are running locally, use the same command but remove inst (the domain part of the chmod command) |
| 13:04.09 | bilarh | why do people with no clue at all write technical documentation |
| 13:04.31 | dick_turpin | bilarh, Coz those with technical know how cant |
| 13:04.36 | bilarh | dick_turpin: sheesh, just trying to help! |
| 13:04.48 | bilarh | dick_turpin: neither can the people without the know how, it seems :) |
| 13:09.05 | boudiccas | and electrocutes his nose! :) |
| 13:10.41 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/images/stories/general/fix.jpg |
| 13:13.15 | boudiccas | rofl |
| 13:13.33 | boudiccas | thats one way of fixing the monitor i suppose :) |
| 13:14.52 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, While its much quicker to download the base system only building it up to something usable's a pain in the but |
| 13:14.58 | dick_turpin | butt |
| 13:19.01 | dick_turpin | TTFN |
| 13:31.48 | goibhni1 | any tip-top sys-admins want a job in Liverpool? |
| 13:33.30 | z00dax | goibhni1: for one millllllllllllllllllllllllion dollars ? |
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| 13:33.42 | Leeds | or Hong Kong, for that matter... |
| 13:34.50 | z00dax | Leeds: million dollars ? where do i send my CV ? |
| 13:35.09 | Leeds | not for a million dollars... not even a million HK$ |
| 13:35.11 | Armand | Hi peoples. :) |
| 13:35.31 | goibhni1 | z00dax: yes! ... (paid in monthly installments over the course of 47 years) |
| 13:35.34 | z00dax | Armand: that will cost you a million dollars, where do i send the invoice ? |
| 13:35.43 | z00dax | goibhni1: pass |
| 13:35.55 | Armand | 69 My mother, whoresville, CA. |
| 13:36.03 | z00dax | done |
| 13:36.04 | Armand | :P |
| 13:36.04 | goibhni1 | I've been to Liverpool twice |
| 13:36.05 | boudiccas | do not pass go, do not collect $200 |
| 13:36.10 | goibhni1 | it rained |
| 13:36.15 | Leeds | I studied in Liverpool |
| 13:36.16 | goibhni1 | I ate chips and pasties |
| 13:36.17 | Leeds | it rained |
| 13:36.23 | Leeds | I ate chips and pasties :-) |
| 13:36.32 | goibhni1 | a good town for drinking indoors I spose |
| 13:36.35 | dj_instinct | Hi all - anybody know where I can get a Tri-Wing screwdiver in central london? |
| 13:36.50 | goibhni1 | z00dax: did that gnome-launch-box thing ever work |
| 13:37.04 | Armand | dj_instinct: car-boot sales? |
| 13:37.45 | dj_instinct | Armand: wanted one 2day - can order of net - need to open up a Wii tonight before they take it away.... |
| 13:38.04 | Armand | today? I wouldn't think so.. |
| 13:38.28 | dj_instinct | thats what I thought ... thanks anyways :) |
| 13:38.36 | Leeds | I think I may need to swap out my flatmate's wifi hub/router thing for my old Asus openwrt one, since hers is currently dying under the weight of my torrenting :-) |
| 13:38.37 | Armand | tried any shops that sell home security systems? |
| 13:40.03 | dj_instinct | no I have tried them - I might have a walk about in a but - mainly been in electronic shops and mobile phone |
| 13:40.24 | dj_instinct | will lookup some up and give them a call ... |
| 13:41.11 | Armand | :) |
| 13:41.39 | Armand | I got a set of security bits from a local car-boot.. £5. |
| 13:41.58 | Armand | had those torqs bits with the centre hole. |
| 13:42.30 | dj_instinct | nice ... I even had trouble getting torqs! |
| 13:42.44 | Armand | easy round my area.. |
| 13:42.47 | wethrin | You should be able to get them from RS or CPC |
| 13:42.50 | Armand | O_o |
| 13:43.06 | Armand | yeah, didn't think of RS.. mostly coz they are a pita. |
| 13:43.15 | wethrin | True. CPC are less so |
| 13:43.21 | Armand | CPC? |
| 13:43.27 | Armand | Amstrad? :P |
| 13:43.59 | wethrin | www.cpc.co.uk |
| 13:44.03 | wethrin | CPC / Farnell |
| 13:44.11 | Armand | Farnell I know. |
| 13:44.20 | Leeds | mmm... pita... and humous |
| 13:44.30 | Armand | I think my dad used to get stuff from them? |
| 13:44.36 | wethrin | they bought out CPC some time back, but they're basically run as separate companies |
| 13:44.41 | Armand | Leeds.. -_- |
| 13:44.49 | Leeds | I think I still have stock in Farnell - a good Leeds company |
| 13:45.09 | Armand | good, Leeds.. same sentance?? :P |
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| 13:45.26 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 13:45.33 | Leeds | Armand: say that again - I dare you |
| 13:45.41 | Armand | j00 bad boy. :P |
| 13:45.43 | Leeds | :-> |
| 13:45.46 | Armand | :D |
| 13:45.52 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Leeds] by ChanServ |
| 13:46.03 | wethrin | Yes. Leeds isn't Bradford. This is good. |
| 13:46.06 | Armand | I spent about 3 weeks there with my uncle.. bored shitless. |
| 13:46.07 | Leeds | also, don't call me a j00boy |
| 13:46.16 | Armand | lol |
| 13:46.37 | Leeds | I'm a Red Sea Pedestrian and proud of it! |
| 13:46.43 | Armand | haha |
| 13:46.52 | Armand | Monty Python = Winz. :) |
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| 14:07.11 | z00dax | goibhni1: yes it did, i got rpms for it - and the .spec is now in the upstream codebase |
| 14:07.24 | z00dax | i got a 0.4.2 working i think, with beryl and all the whistles |
| 14:07.32 | goibhni1 | cool |
| 14:07.39 | Armand | beryl does look nice. |
| 14:07.46 | goibhni1 | I was looking at a quicksilver presentation the other night |
| 14:08.04 | goibhni1 | I didn't realise glb was such a clone |
| 14:08.12 | goibhni1 | but quicksilver does lots more now too :( |
| 14:09.43 | Armand | brother "damn, I need winzip!" me "Duh... Download it!" |
| 14:09.50 | Armand | sheesh |
| 14:10.36 | antiphase | Right |
| 14:11.28 | Armand | WTF? |
| 14:11.46 | Armand | It requires credit cards & shit just to DL the trial version? |
| 14:11.48 | bilarh | dj_instinct: i think maplin sell a set of security bits |
| 14:12.10 | bilarh | dj_instict: the set has the torx with the hole in the middle, but i can't remember about the other bits |
| 14:12.26 | bilarh | dj_instict: and, as a bonus, they come in a sexy green rubber case |
| 14:12.30 | Armand | lol |
| 14:13.11 | wethrin | mine are in a red one |
| 14:13.13 | wethrin | red > green |
| 14:13.21 | bilarh | wethrin: you obviously bought the wrong ones! |
| 14:13.31 | wethrin | Well, I've not needed to use them yet |
| 14:14.14 | Armand | eep! |
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| 14:30.56 | secretlondon | ello |
| 14:31.01 | boudiccas | ello secretlondon |
| 14:31.26 | Leeds | evening secret |
| 14:33.12 | boudiccas | secretlondon; let me know when you've got enough and i'll stop sending them. okay ??? |
| 14:33.24 | secretlondon | boudiccas : will do! |
| 14:33.27 | wethrin | hi secretlondon |
| 14:33.34 | secretlondon | I got the other 5 today :) |
| 14:33.40 | secretlondon | hi wethrin |
| 14:49.17 | wethrin | WTKTC |
| 14:49.58 | boudiccas | pardon wethrin ??? |
| 14:50.05 | wethrin | Well That Killed The Conversation |
| 14:50.12 | wethrin | ~seen morsin |
| 14:50.16 | ibot | i haven't seen 'morsin', wethrin |
| 14:50.16 | wethrin | ~seen morsing |
| 14:50.17 | ibot | morsing <i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 9h 16m 48s ago, saying: 'Thanks - bless you for leaving. F****** A******'. |
| 14:50.30 | boudiccas | hes working nights atm |
| 14:50.42 | wethrin | he's left channel |
| 14:50.46 | boudiccas | finished either wednesday or thursday |
| 14:50.49 | wethrin | mm |
| 14:50.57 | boudiccas | *finishes |
| 15:05.56 | wethrin | um |
| 15:05.58 | wethrin | bit pricy |
| 15:06.31 | wethrin | http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=TL04996 |
| 15:08.50 | wethrin | http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=TL0031802 |
| 15:10.33 | dj_instinct | was after one today - friend taking *cough* back 2day - will prob just get this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRI-WING-SCREWDRIVER-Wii-NINTENDO-DS-NDS-LITE-TRIWING_W0QQitemZ300158534371QQihZ020QQcategoryZ147176QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 15:10.39 | dj_instinct | damn ebay urls |
| 15:10.55 | Armand | sorry, I forgot. |
| 15:11.03 | wethrin | dj_instinct: http://ebay.celestrion.net |
| 15:11.04 | wethrin | Use it |
| 15:11.18 | Armand | there is an alarm company down the road from me, I was gonna check there. |
| 15:11.57 | dj_instinct | wethrin: bookmarked :) |
| 15:12.18 | dj_instinct | Armand: no worries he will have to wait |
| 15:12.48 | Armand | seems so. |
| 15:12.58 | wethrin | good good :) |
| 15:13.31 | dj_instinct | i did offer for him to leave it here for me to 'test' - he declined |
| 15:13.57 | Armand | lol |
| 15:14.54 | Armand | probably thinks your gonna fuxor it completely. :P |
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| 15:25.04 | Leeds | hmm... what would you call the opposite of a bimbo? |
| 15:26.29 | boudiccas | intelligent |
| 15:26.46 | boudiccas | nice |
| 15:27.47 | Leeds | right |
| 15:27.56 | Leeds | but one word or phrase |
| 15:28.20 | Armand | erm.. "normal" ? |
| 15:28.38 | Leeds | not in HK |
| 15:29.19 | Armand | ? |
| 15:29.43 | Leeds | nice and intelligent is not 'normal' in HK |
| 15:30.02 | wethrin | Not sure if there is a single word antonym |
| 15:30.02 | Armand | Oh |
| 15:36.12 | secretlondon | obedient? |
| 15:36.21 | boudiccas | http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9792321-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave |
| 15:36.27 | secretlondon | or is that more singapore |
| 15:36.54 | wethrin | obedient isn't really an antonym to 'bimbo' |
| 15:37.03 | secretlondon | true |
| 15:37.16 | secretlondon | but nor is normal |
| 15:37.49 | wethrin | again, they're not antonyms |
| 15:37.51 | Leeds | no, exactly not that |
| 15:38.08 | Leeds | feminine, but intelligent, deeper, thoughtful |
| 15:38.16 | polyunix | boudiccas>: very nice car. btw pivo is beer in russian! |
| 15:38.21 | Leeds | not superficial, only concerned with looks, etc. |
| 15:38.27 | secretlondon | pivo is beer in polish too |
| 15:38.27 | wethrin | OED says that ("Now the usual sense") it means "A young woman considered to be sexually attractive but of limited intelligence" |
| 15:38.41 | wethrin | pedantically, it'd be piwo |
| 15:38.45 | secretlondon | yes |
| 15:38.46 | boudiccas | looks like nissan has a rival to microsofts paperclip there |
| 15:39.03 | secretlondon | the polish is actually piwo |
| 15:40.00 | polyunix | in russian there is no diference between v and w., so both are correct. |
| 15:40.15 | wethrin | you'd also not be using the latin alphabet, of course |
| 15:40.26 | polyunix | wethrin>: sure |
| 15:40.39 | wethrin | So it's a slightly moot point about transliterations :) |
| 15:40.51 | polyunix | yeah :) |
| 15:41.11 | polyunix | back to work than |
| 15:52.02 | secretlondon | la la la |
| 15:52.12 | wethrin | write my thes*s for me |
| 15:55.19 | secretlondon | my 3g thingey have shipped but by royal mail |
| 15:55.29 | wethrin | Next week, then, maybe |
| 15:55.31 | Armand | oops |
| 15:55.32 | secretlondon | maybe |
| 15:55.39 | Armand | nah, 3 weeks.. min. :P |
| 15:55.45 | secretlondon | friday/sat if I'm lucky |
| 15:55.47 | wethrin | Depends on their backlog |
| 15:56.05 | secretlondon | it's recorded which may make a difference, but it seems unlikely |
| 15:56.11 | Armand | would "shitloads" be an exaggeration?? :P |
| 15:56.50 | secretlondon | I think the 3d thing will be named "thingey" in the way that my wifi thing is named "dongle" |
| 15:56.59 | Armand | hehe |
| 15:57.16 | secretlondon | as usb 3.5g modem is a bit long |
| 15:57.29 | Armand | sok, my laptop is named Jaykay.. after my deceased dog. |
| 15:57.43 | secretlondon | mine are called celery and stinkpad |
| 15:57.50 | Armand | hehe |
| 15:57.58 | Armand | I dread to think. :P |
| 15:58.21 | Leeds | mine is called eddie |
| 15:58.23 | Armand | lemme guess, Intel Celeron based system? |
| 15:58.30 | secretlondon | you don't say ;) |
| 15:58.33 | Armand | :) |
| 15:58.46 | Armand | bit too obvious, but not everyone thinks of it. |
| 15:58.54 | Armand | geek thing, I suppose. ;) |
| 15:58.56 | wethrin | Leeds: Do you have another called marvin? |
| 15:59.28 | Leeds | no |
| 15:59.32 | wethrin | oh |
| 15:59.34 | Leeds | george, believe it or not |
| 16:00.36 | boudiccas | secretlondon; what was the quality of the recording like? was it good, passable or just acceptable? |
| 16:01.04 | secretlondon | boudiccas: of the only one I've listened to, passable. It had clicks etc |
| 16:03.57 | boudiccas | okay thanks secretlondon |
| 16:04.06 | Leeds | Cambridge, probably |
| 16:20.56 | goibhni1 | secretlondon: if only you had line of sight to the golden arches ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/08/mcdonalds_wireless/ |
| 16:21.07 | secretlondon | arrgh |
| 16:21.12 | secretlondon | thank fuck I don't |
| 16:21.21 | boudiccas | lol |
| 16:21.27 | secretlondon | anyway I should have thingey in a couple of weeks |
| 16:29.01 | secretlondon | virgo ;) |
| 16:30.41 | goibhni1 | nice |
| 16:33.47 | goibhni1 | secretlondon: do you have trees between you and your AP? |
| 16:34.00 | secretlondon | no idea! |
| 16:34.06 | secretlondon | I don't know where it comes from |
| 16:34.15 | goibhni1 | I was just wondering if your return to #gllug was related to the leaves falling from the trees |
| 16:34.24 | secretlondon | There is definietly metal though |
| 16:34.36 | secretlondon | it was caused by a friend dragging me onto indymedia's irc channel |
| 16:34.43 | goibhni1 | ah yeah |
| 16:34.48 | secretlondon | and then I thought if I'm on there I might as well be on freenode |
| 16:35.10 | secretlondon | and it does work better than I expected it would - I expected I'd be link dead every 2 mins |
| 16:36.47 | goibhni1 | wifi is cool alright |
| 16:36.59 | secretlondon | yeah but mine can be very variable |
| 16:37.15 | secretlondon | including when they unplug it so you connect but get no further |
| 16:37.41 | goibhni1 | I do lock down my AP .. but I use an email address as the essid so if anyone wants it ... they can ask |
| 16:40.12 | secretlondon | local ones are generally default names |
| 16:40.28 | goibhni1 | the coolest thing about my new flat is that it has more than one room |
| 16:40.38 | secretlondon | I have 2 rooms too :) |
| 16:40.46 | goibhni1 | which is a great excuse to set up all kinds of geek tech |
| 16:40.51 | secretlondon | different access points both sides ;) |
| 16:40.56 | goibhni1 | :D |
| 16:41.15 | secretlondon | during the summer I had my laptop in the bedroom as there was a good open access point there |
| 16:41.28 | Armand | think yourselves lucky.. I'm going mad living with my mate. |
| 16:41.30 | secretlondon | everyone was using it - the woman who runs the shop across the road was connected to it too |
| 16:41.38 | goibhni1 | lol |
| 16:42.05 | Armand | he's an overbearing fktard who wastes far too much money, including mine. |
| 16:42.07 | secretlondon | and then one day I was them (using ethereal) run a check to see which IP addresses had been allocated and then 2 mins later they went on WPA and non broadcasting ssid |
| 16:42.19 | secretlondon | watching them |
| 16:42.37 | secretlondon | it was as though they'd brought someone in to get rid of their leeches |
| 16:43.29 | secretlondon | so I moved all my equipment back into the living room |
| 16:43.35 | goibhni1 | eek! |
| 16:43.37 | secretlondon | and now have the dongle outside on the rear balcony |
| 16:43.46 | secretlondon | and have a sky open access point |
| 16:44.07 | secretlondon | which _sometimes_ resolves to an aol ip address, and sometimes a sky one |
| 16:44.32 | Armand | reminds me.. must sort out that damned mini-pci wifi adapter. |
| 16:44.32 | secretlondon | so if I reconnect without my cloak people can laugh at me for being aol ;) |
| 16:44.52 | goibhni1 | heh |
| 16:44.53 | Armand | don't tempt me. :D |
| 16:44.58 | secretlondon | people have! |
| 16:45.06 | goibhni1 | some people! |
| 16:45.08 | secretlondon | (on here surprisingly enough) |
| 16:45.09 | Armand | not surprised.. |
| 16:45.43 | secretlondon | people with the tech know how to change their access point name generally have the tech know how to put at least wep on it |
| 16:46.12 | Armand | I had to mess about with all that on my brothers BT conn. |
| 16:46.19 | Armand | and I know nothing about wifi. :P |
| 16:46.29 | secretlondon | and I never get any encrypted packets as I've tried leaving kismet running overnight as an experiment |
| 16:46.36 | secretlondon | and they are just all beacons |
| 16:46.46 | secretlondon | so no seeing if I cna break people's wep keys either |
| 16:46.57 | Armand | shame |
| 16:47.15 | wethrin | secretlondon: Not all of use were being serious when we pointed and laughed at AOL addresses |
| 16:47.24 | secretlondon | I wouldn't dare try and use a cracked wep key, but I wanted to see how crap it really was |
| 16:47.29 | secretlondon | wethrin: I know.. |
| 16:48.08 | secretlondon | I dunno why sky##### sometimes is sky.com and sometimes aol |
| 16:48.21 | secretlondon | I guess sky must buy their connectivity from aol |
| 16:49.21 | secretlondon | Armand: the best thing to know if that channels overalp |
| 16:49.24 | secretlondon | overlap |
| 16:49.44 | secretlondon | and you will get a worse performance if you interfere with your neighbours |
| 16:49.52 | secretlondon | a common default here seems to be channel 11 |
| 16:50.12 | Armand | yeah, I've noticed that when I run scans on from my main PC. |
| 16:50.27 | secretlondon | if people are using US channel allocation (which people seem to) the non overlapping ones are 1, 6 and 11 |
| 16:50.54 | secretlondon | UK goes up to 13 so we have 1,7 and 13 - but 13 might not be much good if the world and their mum are using channel 11 |
| 16:51.06 | secretlondon | or you could use 802.11a which uses a different band ;) |
| 16:51.45 | wethrin | people still use .11a? :) |
| 16:51.57 | secretlondon | I dunno as I haven't got any equipment for it |
| 16:52.01 | Armand | I have an adapter, which I hope will work.. but I have to add the driver modules to the kernel (or something like that) and I'm not sure I can do that without breaking it, |
| 16:52.05 | secretlondon | but its 56 like g |
| 16:52.13 | wethrin | 54? |
| 16:52.30 | secretlondon | yeah |
| 16:52.34 | secretlondon | *bonk* |
| 16:52.48 | secretlondon | I nearly wrote that as 56k |
| 16:52.57 | secretlondon | arrgh |
| 16:53.04 | Armand | sok, thats a future wifi standard. :P |
| 16:53.08 | wethrin | have coffee |
| 16:53.40 | secretlondon | I dunno if coffee will help with my memory |
| 16:53.48 | Armand | helps me.. |
| 16:53.59 | Armand | but it's probably just countering the weed. @_@ |
| 16:56.50 | secretlondon | I need a server, as I've just filled 98% of this partitions disk space |
| 16:56.56 | secretlondon | and it's all in /home |
| 17:00.46 | Armand | still want to get my damned server running, with its 136GB RAID. |
| 17:02.41 | Armand | would be nice if I had a decent spec server. >_< |
| 17:02.57 | secretlondon | oh all I need is an old tower thing with lots of drive bays |
| 17:03.04 | secretlondon | I don't want a "server" per se |
| 17:03.17 | Armand | Coolermaster Stacker? |
| 17:03.27 | secretlondon | I dunno what that is |
| 17:03.33 | Armand | 1 min |
| 17:03.35 | secretlondon | I was thinking of some old p2/p3 thing |
| 17:04.40 | Armand | ahh. |
| 17:04.42 | Armand | http://www.thecoolingshop.com/index.php/cPath/101_115 |
| 17:04.48 | Armand | Stackers are there |
| 17:05.02 | Armand | I've got an old AT case up in the loft.. |
| 17:05.11 | Armand | got some P2 bits too. |
| 17:05.26 | secretlondon | I've got some here - they just need playing with |
| 17:05.32 | secretlondon | it's large ide drives I really need |
| 17:05.37 | Armand | k |
| 17:05.41 | secretlondon | but I think I have most of the parts |
| 17:06.02 | Armand | I'm just gonna build a donkeh server. |
| 17:06.13 | Armand | cheapo dual-core something, few SATA drives. |
| 17:07.25 | secretlondon | it doesn't need to be dual core, if you think what it actually needs to do |
| 17:08.13 | Armand | well, not for a storage server. |
| 17:08.26 | Armand | I'm thinking general purpose. |
| 17:16.19 | boudiccas | Broadband is an all female rock group. |
| 17:16.30 | Armand | right, time to go home. :( |
| 17:16.56 | Armand | bye bye |
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| 17:22.33 | boudiccas | Feeling that I had supernatural powers, I tried Windows |
| 17:24.55 | boudiccas | Reality is the leading cause of stress. |
| 17:24.55 | boudiccas | Reality is a state caused by a lack of alcohol |
| 17:24.55 | boudiccas | Reality is that which, when you cease to believe in it, doesn't go away |
| 17:24.55 | boudiccas | Reality can be beaten with enough imagination. |
| 17:24.55 | boudiccas | The trick is to get a strong grip on reality and then choke it to death. |
| 17:29.44 | boudiccas | bottle spinning! now thats a dying art! |
| 17:31.23 | secretlondon | xteddy hug the saxophone |
| 17:31.24 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:31.47 | secretlondon | xteddy hug saxophone |
| 17:31.48 | xteddy | :> |
| 17:35.31 | goibhni1 | xteddy: do you know what a saxophone is? |
| 17:36.10 | boudiccas | xteddy is an irssi bot and knows nowt! |
| 17:37.26 | goibhni1 | xteddy? |
| 17:39.30 | secretlondon | xteddy hug xteddy |
| 17:39.30 | xteddy | :> |
| 17:39.37 | secretlondon | recursive hugs |
| 17:40.36 | boudiccas | seems like its a primitive bot with very few responses |
| 17:40.48 | boudiccas | notlike the bog standard eggdrop bot |
| 17:43.15 | secretlondon | it apparently has another module, but morsing hasn't yet persuaded starshine to run it here |
| 17:44.33 | boudiccas | perhaps hes working on it :) |
| 17:44.45 | secretlondon | I guess he's asleep tbh |
| 17:44.48 | goibhni1 | lol |
| 17:45.12 | goibhni1 | xteddy doesn't chat in private either :( |
| 17:45.13 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:45.44 | goibhni1 | xteddy: I think you're clever |
| 17:53.34 | secretlondon | coo |
| 17:53.37 | secretlondon | new response |
| 17:54.28 | boudiccas | methinks someone is manipulating the bot from the sidelines |
| 17:54.58 | boudiccas | and its not me because i don't use irssi |
| 17:55.34 | goibhni1 | xteddy: get boudiccas a nice slice of cake |
| 17:55.34 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:55.37 | goibhni1 | :( |
| 17:55.43 | goibhni1 | xteddy: get me cake! |
| 17:55.44 | xteddy | *cuts a slice* fresh baked cake coming up :) |
| 17:55.51 | boudiccas | lol |
| 17:56.09 | boudiccas | goibhni1; are you running xteddy? |
| 17:56.18 | goibhni1 | xteddy: get me a nice nuclear death raygun! |
| 17:56.29 | goibhni1 | xteddy: thanks |
| 17:56.40 | goibhni1 | boudiccas: nope |
| 17:57.07 | goibhni1 | I think xteddy just needs to be loved |
| 17:57.25 | goibhni1 | and ordered to fetch cake |
| 17:57.49 | secretlondon | maybe not |
| 17:58.56 | goibhni1 | xteddy: love secretlondon! |
| 17:58.56 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:59.35 | secretlondon | xteddy: get goibhnil a cookie |
| 17:59.36 | xteddy | :> |
| 18:00.17 | goibhni1 | I guess to xteddy all love is selfish |
| 18:00.30 | goibhni1 | xteddy get me nice stuff |
| 18:00.39 | goibhni1 | xteddy ... I've got to go now |
| 18:00.41 | secretlondon | xteddy get me instructions |
| 18:00.50 | goibhni1 | xteddy: I miss you |
| 18:00.50 | xteddy | hmm? |
| 18:01.00 | goibhni1 | xteddy: I like you |
| 18:01.00 | xteddy | :) |
| 18:02.03 | secretlondon | xteddy: I want chocolate |
| 18:02.04 | xteddy | :) |
| 18:02.18 | secretlondon | xteddy: I want chocolate |
| 18:02.19 | xteddy | smiles |
| 18:02.22 | secretlondon | xteddy: I want chocolate |
| 18:02.22 | xteddy | smiles |
| 18:02.54 | secretlondon | xteddy: I want chocolate |
| 18:02.55 | xteddy | smiles |
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| 18:03.04 | secretlondon | xteddy: I need chocolate |
| 18:06.33 | secretlondon | arrgh - need to be somewhere at 7.30 |
| 18:13.00 | secretlondon | bye |
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| 18:35.26 | SlayerXP | if xteddy is a bot, it's owner better get rid of it sharpish. thanks. |
| 18:39.34 | z00dax | 20:03 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from xteddy: irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux i686 |
| 18:39.38 | z00dax | still, might be a bot |
| 18:40.03 | SlayerXP | xteddy: I want chocolate |
| 18:40.03 | xteddy | smiles |
| 18:40.18 | Discordian | it is a bot |
| 18:40.54 | SlayerXP | i don't actually have ops here. |
| 18:40.57 | Discordian | belongs to morsing |
| 18:42.13 | SlayerXP | bots that talk in public are, at best, annoying |
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| 18:44.06 | starshine | my teddybear tells me you folks have been talking about him :) |
| 18:44.24 | Discordian | yuss |
| 18:46.51 | z00dax | starshine: you might want to take it away or mode +q it |
| 18:47.05 | starshine | whatever |
| 18:47.08 | starshine | he was invited |
| 18:47.17 | starshine | if he is disinvited and a LUG doesn't want him |
| 18:47.24 | starshine | I've no interest in being unfriendly |
| 18:47.34 | z00dax | invited by ? |
| 18:47.37 | *** part/#gllug xteddy (n=bear@freenode/weird-exception/mascot/starshine/bot/xteddy) |
| 18:47.40 | Discordian | morsing |
| 18:47.51 | *** part/#gllug starshine (n=star@moinmoin/fan/starshine) |
| 18:47.56 | z00dax | bye |
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| 19:42.57 | boudiccas | Feeling that I had supernatural powers, I tried Windows. |
| 19:43.42 | starshine | and lost them during the next reboot? |
| 19:44.14 | boudiccas | :) |
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| 19:50.58 | marek4 | Hi, does anybody have an idea configuring a storagetek fc system using the management sw santricity. Soryy for my bad :( english. marek from germany(hamburg :) |
| 19:51.45 | hali | storatek with santricity? |
| 19:52.10 | hali | nope, but i've setup a shitload of lsi logic kit with santricity |
| 19:52.47 | marek4 | hali: yes. i bougth a bc84 controler and a b150 array. |
| 19:53.26 | hali | ah yes, that looks lsi branded |
| 19:53.40 | marek4 | hali: good ebay deal 9.999 US$ for 3*6,25 TB:) |
| 19:54.05 | hali | not bad, probably hugely expensive in hw support tho :) |
| 19:55.23 | marek4 | hali: yes you are right! and without any software.... :( |
| 19:56.15 | hali | do you really need the software? i think the controller (at least the old ones) has a db9 port you can use |
| 19:56.27 | marek4 | hali: i have to configure it. so did you know if i realy need santricity. ... |
| 19:57.59 | marek4 | hali: i have a serial login :), but i didn't know how to set up ipadress, raid-settings, fc-thigs(wwun..) ... |
| 19:59.36 | hali | the software is hugely expensive .. not sure how it corrolates with what you can use in the cli |
| 20:03.19 | marek4 | hali: yes i know. but i realy only want to setup the raid. i need no snapshopt-features - i have a sanrad iscsi-fc-switch/bridge-gw and this will do such intelligent things. i only want to set up the raid-system,... |
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| 20:11.34 | boudiccas | what is the music/film player called? its something like BMP, but thats not it. I can't remember it |
| 20:11.47 | ells| | VLC |
| 20:11.47 | starshine | mplayer is my favorite |
| 20:12.16 | starshine | there's another one that came with my ubuntu but it isn't too bright about some of the DVDs I feed it. |
| 20:14.07 | boudiccas | vlc is the one, thanks |
| 20:14.56 | marek4 | hali: thanks & bye! |
| 20:16.29 | starshine | would the bear be welcome if I brought him back in? |
| 20:17.16 | starshine | the plushy he's meant to represent actually lives somewhere in hants |
| 20:19.00 | starshine | .? |
| 20:19.10 | ells| | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plushy |
| 20:19.14 | ells| | i never knew that |
| 20:19.20 | starshine | ..is this safe for work? |
| 20:19.51 | starshine | I mean a stuffed toy for hugs, per the xteddy man page. all other definitions are somebody else's problem. |
| 20:19.57 | ells| | shud be - no pr0n ads |
| 20:20.18 | starshine | given the above, do I actually want to know? |
| 20:20.31 | ells| | definition: a person who has a fetish for stuffed animals or people dressed as stuffed animals |
| 20:20.53 | starshine | oh. no, he's not like that. |
| 20:21.17 | starshine | except perhaps in the ancient shamanistic "source of magicla powers" sense of the word 'fetish'. |
| 20:21.23 | ells| | lol - ok - i'm discovering xteddy too - sorry |
| 20:22.21 | ells| | :) |
| 20:59.17 | *** part/#gllug ells| (n=elliot@77-101-153-182.cable.ubr08.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:23.18 | goibhniu | ~seen xteddy |
| 21:23.22 | ibot | xteddy <n=bear@freenode/weird-exception/mascot/starshine/bot/xteddy> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 2h 43m 19s ago, saying: 'smiles'. |
| 21:41.02 | starshine | xteddy has a seen function too |
| 21:41.14 | starshine | its output is a little shorter |
| 21:41.41 | starshine | I guess I'll bring him back in |
| 21:41.46 | goibhniu | yay! |
| 21:41.47 | *** join/#gllug xteddy (n=bear@freenode/weird-exception/mascot/starshine/bot/xteddy) |
| 21:41.55 | goibhniu | xteddy: I missed you |
| 21:41.55 | xteddy | :D |
| 21:44.19 | Discordian | There's a faction here, which includes me, that dislikes bots |
| 21:44.47 | starshine | even if they have functions? |
| 21:44.53 | starshine | xteddy: show me starshine |
| 21:45.03 | Discordian | We already have a bot |
| 21:45.06 | Discordian | ibot |
| 21:45.10 | starshine | (that's from the channel that is his home) |
| 21:45.12 | starshine | well |
| 21:45.15 | hali | i can't say i like the flow of bots at the moment |
| 21:45.21 | hali | ibot is indeed pretty nice to have |
| 21:45.36 | starshine | there's a faction that dislike people snarking off about everything they dislike in their universe, playing taste police |
| 21:45.46 | starshine | but we don't ban those sort of people do we :) |
| 21:46.15 | *** join/#gllug secretlondon (n=secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon) |
| 21:46.19 | hali | too many bots do lead to a form of channel spam |
| 21:46.29 | secretlondon | ello |
| 21:46.33 | z00dax | hi |
| 21:46.34 | hali | who's 'owning' xteddy anyway? |
| 21:46.39 | secretlondon | bots are good, especially xteddy |
| 21:46.41 | starshine | secretlondon: I'm sorry but your earlier hug request ended up in #fvwm. xteddy's not bright |
| 21:46.47 | secretlondon | argh |
| 21:46.56 | starshine | hali: xteddy is mine, he's perl code, and I occasionally modify him to taste |
| 21:47.00 | z00dax | why are bots good ? |
| 21:47.07 | starshine | unlike the averge eggdrop crud he's maintained. |
| 21:47.16 | Discordian | they're not |
| 21:47.27 | Discordian | I can see the point of ibot |
| 21:47.29 | hali | ibot is good in terms of functions like ~wiki and the currency converter |
| 21:47.48 | z00dax | the only bot i have found to be of any real use is the bugzilla bugbot, and that too since it mostly does its biznez over private msgs |
| 21:47.53 | secretlondon | they provide entertainment and a foil for people to play with |
| 21:47.59 | secretlondon | they are the straightmen |
| 21:48.06 | starshine | I somehow thought this was a LUG :/ |
| 21:48.13 | Discordian | It is |
| 21:48.47 | z00dax | its also quite a social setup in that people who dont use linux are welcome too :) |
| 21:48.49 | secretlondon | we still have fun together |
| 21:48.54 | Discordian | I like the bot on ##trivia |
| 21:48.57 | starshine | whatever |
| 21:49.00 | starshine | I have work to do |
| 21:49.10 | Discordian | But then I know what that bot does |
| 21:49.14 | starshine | when it's linuxy instead of beat-me-up day I'll glance back in this window |
| 21:49.36 | Discordian | Oh dear |
| 21:49.43 | hali | enough about bots, we are all entitiled to our opionion about bots |
| 21:49.59 | secretlondon | the #fvwm people have complained? |
| 21:50.02 | starshine | I was kinda hoping to be welcome as a person |
| 21:50.10 | starshine | no they found it pleasant and amusing |
| 21:50.11 | secretlondon | you are |
| 21:50.16 | Discordian | I welcome you as a person |
| 21:50.19 | starshine | but then, it is his home :) |
| 21:50.25 | secretlondon | people have been playing with the bot all day |
| 21:50.41 | secretlondon | maybe not the people who are on now, because lots of people are only on during working hours |
| 21:50.46 | secretlondon | it's morsing's pet |
| 21:51.00 | starshine | I've had a rough last couple of weeks and was hoping for hope and new freinds |
| 21:51.31 | starshine | he is only a recent attendee in #fvwm; it's my bear; but he's really for some other people, people I care about |
| 21:51.33 | Discordian | I'm sorry to hear that starshine, and I hope you will find that |
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| 21:51.48 | z00dax | PussInBoots: |
| 21:51.49 | starshine | I'm getting quite tired of people I care about getting the shaft |
| 21:52.20 | starshine | but I've been to england once and it was decent, and may go again someday |
| 21:52.51 | hali | it's alright, but don't expect fuck all from the weather :-) |
| 21:53.01 | starshine | ha clouds are nice |
| 21:53.36 | goibhniu | it was dark today though |
| 21:53.53 | goibhniu | and it turned into night awfully early |
| 21:54.00 | hali | yes, today was depressing |
| 21:54.17 | Discordian | Sunset is around 6:30 |
| 21:54.34 | goibhniu | z00dax: I'd love it |
| 21:54.38 | hali | the weather is the biggest show stopper for my favorite past time |
| 21:54.39 | z00dax | weather... interestingly i quite liked the day today. made for a change from the stuck-in-an-aircon-place |
| 21:54.45 | Discordian | It might be good z00dax given the new cheaper PS3 |
| 21:54.52 | hali | standing outside pubs drinking beer and talking to random people |
| 21:54.53 | z00dax | oh there is a cheaper ps3 ? |
| 21:55.02 | Discordian | PS3 with 40Gb |
| 21:55.04 | Discordian | soon |
| 21:55.13 | hali | z00dax: yes, it's ok actually... smaller hdd and no ps2 compatability.. minor things |
| 21:55.30 | z00dax | interesting. the ps2 compatibility you can actually emulate anyway :) |
| 21:55.30 | secretlondon | does this bad vibe come from the message to the list about who is the channel owner? |
| 21:56.10 | hali | spudlike owns the channel right? |
| 21:56.16 | Discordian | The Ps3 seems to be a good compute engine |
| 21:56.51 | z00dax | Discordian: if you can get the SPEś into gear and do something with them |
| 21:57.12 | Discordian | Indeed |
| 21:57.13 | z00dax | if you just use the powerpc front, its not all that great - but it still makes for a potent cluster node |
| 21:57.16 | hali | to bad the ps3 is so ugly, i wouldn't want one in my front room |
| 21:57.32 | Discordian | You'd need to use the SPEs |
| 21:57.54 | z00dax | right, so i shall get my gear into order and haul the ps3 over on the 10th |
| 21:58.05 | z00dax | the interesting thing is going to be getting a projector hooked upto it on hdmi |
| 21:58.17 | Discordian | What linux are you running on it? |
| 21:58.42 | hali | and can whatever-linuux-you-are-using play blu-rays? |
| 21:58.58 | goibhniu | z00dax: you're gonna give the talk? |
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| 22:01.41 | z00dax | goibhniu: sure |
| 22:01.50 | z00dax | goibhniu: not sure what i should talk about.... |
| 22:01.55 | goibhniu | z00dax: excellent! |
| 22:02.04 | goibhniu | I would also love to see that zenoss stuff |
| 22:02.05 | z00dax | maybe do a talk on 'installing and running linux on the ps3' |
| 22:02.28 | Discordian | Fedora? |
| 22:02.51 | z00dax | either Fedora or CentOS |
| 22:02.58 | z00dax | depends on how far we are with the CentOS port |
| 22:03.15 | Discordian | Cool |
| 22:03.24 | goibhniu | I wonder if there are enough interesting factors about the installation for a talk? |
| 22:03.26 | hali | i would guess the ps3 would make a good htpc myth box |
| 22:03.53 | hali | does the ps3 have usb ports? |
| 22:04.06 | Discordian | If I understand the major problem with linux on the PS3 is the hypervisor |
| 22:04.14 | z00dax | yea, lots of usb ports - and its got a usb-hub-aware port as well |
| 22:04.22 | Discordian | which limits access to the video hardware |
| 22:04.50 | z00dax | Discordian: framebuff ? yea - but its done in hardware, so you can easily get 30 - 45 fps on hdmi |
| 22:05.14 | Discordian | That's respectable |
| 22:05.34 | hali | thats more than most devices can actually display :) |
| 22:05.43 | z00dax | yup |
| 22:06.01 | z00dax | what else would people like to see then goibhniu ? |
| 22:06.18 | goibhniu | I guess it's a pretty interesting platform though |
| 22:06.36 | goibhniu | I don't know anything about it really, except it has lots of cpus :D |
| 22:06.39 | z00dax | look at it this way, its not far off the mark from the ibm q21 - except for ram size |
| 22:06.54 | goibhniu | there must be interesting spin off projects too |
| 22:07.11 | hali | freeview playback/recording would be cool |
| 22:07.15 | Discordian | RAM is the major limitation |
| 22:07.16 | hali | doable via usb i would guess |
| 22:07.30 | goibhniu | it sounds cool alright ... I'd like to see it in action |
| 22:07.37 | Discordian | The 360 has better CPUs |
| 22:07.49 | Discordian | but is locked down hard |
| 22:08.04 | z00dax | hali: yea, might need to look at drivers and devices that are natively supported by the kernel |
| 22:09.47 | z00dax | maybe it can just be a nontalk talk. i get the ps3 there, hook it up, install linux and then people can just talk about things :) |
| 22:14.05 | goibhniu | personally, I'd like to see cpu diagrams and hear stories about the sony legal department :D |
| 22:37.47 | gregj | http://www.glumbert.com/media/fastfood |
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| 22:47.10 | niv_one_three | hi, I migrated from a single hard disk to raid+lvm |
| 22:47.16 | niv_one_three | managed to boot, but cant startxfce4, I see: xfce4-session[6255]: segfault at 000000000052e110 rip 000000000052e110 rsp 00007fffed0c2908 error 15 |
| 22:47.24 | niv_one_three | I can log to X using xfce4 as root ONLY |
| 22:48.04 | secretlondon | do root and user have the same x config files? |
| 22:48.30 | niv_one_three | /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the same |
| 22:48.35 | JohnDoe666 | echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? |
| 22:48.41 | niv_one_three | let me see about .Xsession |
| 22:49.20 | niv_one_three | root has no ~/.x* files |
| 22:50.15 | secretlondon | so it has the defaults |
| 22:51.52 | niv_one_three | echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty |
| 22:54.02 | goibhniu | gregj: :) |
| 22:56.41 | niv_one_three | I get FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. |
| 22:56.44 | niv_one_three | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
| 22:57.15 | secretlondon | the first bit is not exciting, my ubuntu installs do similar and continue just fine |
| 22:57.50 | niv_one_three | oh ya raid 5 + lvm is faster |
| 22:57.53 | niv_one_three | then a single |
| 22:58.04 | secretlondon | the second bit is the interesting bit, although I reckon they key to this is to look at the difference between root's X setup and user's X setup |
| 22:58.21 | niv_one_three | how? |
| 22:59.04 | goibhniu | how about if you add another user and see if they can start xfce? |
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| 22:59.41 | niv_one_three | goibhniu: same issue with exsisting user |
| 23:00.08 | secretlondon | well why is root working - it could be that somehting needs root perms, or it could be that root's config is okay, but the user's not. If it didn't work for root or user I'd think it wasn't connected to this |
| 23:00.42 | secretlondon | try making a new user, they should get their config files from the defaults |
| 23:00.57 | secretlondon | if root doesn't have an override they are using the defaults too |
| 23:01.11 | niv_one_three | ok |
| 23:02.22 | goibhniu | how are you starting xfce? |
| 23:03.13 | secretlondon | goibhniu: good question, although he says that xorg.conf is identical |
| 23:03.50 | goibhniu | I had some funny cookie issues with gnome and I never figured it out |
| 23:03.59 | niv_one_three | new user - same issue |
| 23:04.03 | secretlondon | ok |
| 23:04.32 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: are you using gdm? |
| 23:04.36 | niv_one_three | goibhniu $startxfce4 |
| 23:04.44 | niv_one_three | no gdm |
| 23:04.46 | secretlondon | nor startx? |
| 23:04.54 | goibhniu | ah ... and that's what you used before too, right? |
| 23:05.01 | niv_one_three | no , plain shell eceute |
| 23:05.07 | niv_one_three | execute |
| 23:05.43 | secretlondon | goibhniu: but why does it work under root.. X default files are in /etc/X11 or somewhere? |
| 23:05.59 | secretlondon | and needs to fix X on her laptop anyway ;) |
| 23:06.14 | goibhniu | afaik there is only one Xorg config file |
| 23:06.23 | niv_one_three | guess I must have forgot to apply the -a to some copy I did |
| 23:06.38 | goibhniu | but if you're running gdm or xdm or something that can mess with stuff |
| 23:06.41 | secretlondon | from what I remember is you don't have anything in ~.blah then it uses the defaults, config files in ~ over ride the defaults |
| 23:06.44 | niv_one_three | so I may have chaged an owner to root |
| 23:07.09 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: that sounds like it |
| 23:07.30 | niv_one_three | so I tried to use strace - no good :-( |
| 23:07.46 | niv_one_three | strace to tell which file killed my X |
| 23:07.50 | goibhniu | secretlondon: I don't know what happens if different users have different resolutions or colour depths etc |
| 23:07.51 | niv_one_three | right? |
| 23:08.02 | goibhniu | I guess that's part of the desktop manager settings |
| 23:08.16 | secretlondon | goibhniu: it's fine, as they have their own config files in ~ |
| 23:08.43 | niv_one_three | ok, I will try later |
| 23:08.49 | niv_one_three | thanks so far |
| 23:08.57 | goibhniu | niv_one_three: I would have thought that creating a new user would have sorted it out |
| 23:09.05 | goibhniu | if it were a permissions problem |
| 23:09.10 | niv_one_three | right - it didnt |
| 23:10.57 | goibhniu | secretlondon: what desktop are you running? |
| 23:11.13 | goibhniu | if that isn't a rude question :) |
| 23:11.31 | secretlondon | goibhniu: my experience with x configuration was with openbsd, on my "stinkpad" box which was running fluxbox |
| 23:11.45 | goibhniu | ah nice |
| 23:12.01 | secretlondon | this box is running ubuntu and apart from having to fiddle with xorg.conf needed very little. It runs GNOME |
| 23:12.06 | goibhniu | I'm gonna try xfce for a while one of these days |
| 23:12.13 | goibhniu | I miss gnome though |
| 23:12.20 | secretlondon | I ran xfce on a duron 750 and it was happy |
| 23:12.21 | goibhniu | kde is a bit sucky IMO |
| 23:12.41 | secretlondon | this box is a athlon 2800 and is fine for gnome |
| 23:13.22 | secretlondon | gnome can be too dumbed down, but kde is ugly, and too much the other way |
| 23:13.37 | secretlondon | fluxbox was great on a pentium 166 though |
| 23:13.44 | goibhniu | it's the ugliness that gets to me alright :( |
| 23:13.45 | secretlondon | much nicer than tvwm |
| 23:13.57 | goibhniu | especially the clock |
| 23:14.19 | goibhniu | but I'm not using it properly in fairness |
| 23:14.27 | goibhniu | I don't really use any of the kde apps |
| 23:14.30 | secretlondon | I tend to run a mixture as I have all the kde libs installed here |
| 23:15.12 | goibhniu | I hear krita is an admirable rival to the gimp these days |
| 23:15.17 | secretlondon | I use k3b for example as I prefer to gnome |
| 23:15.35 | secretlondon | krita isn't mathc for gnome, but it's nicer for doing photo touch up jobs |
| 23:15.40 | secretlondon | and amarok I like |
| 23:15.53 | goibhniu | ah ... I've used it too ... but I prefer the gnome burning stuff |
| 23:15.54 | niv_one_three | thnaks |
| 23:15.59 | secretlondon | if there's one kde app I use always over the gnome equivilent it's k3b |
| 23:16.24 | secretlondon | and kaudiocreator I like too |
| 23:16.29 | goibhniu | I remembering someone saying before that they really loved k3b ... it mystified me to be honest |
| 23:16.35 | secretlondon | I like k3b |
| 23:16.38 | goibhniu | I've heard people rave about nero too |
| 23:16.57 | goibhniu | maybe I'm not burning enough discs to appreciate it |
| 23:17.38 | secretlondon | some apps are really useable as a novice - like inkscape which I LOVE |
| 23:17.53 | secretlondon | some are probably brilliant but have a heavy learning curve link blender |
| 23:17.56 | secretlondon | like |
| 23:18.03 | goibhniu | inkscape is one of the most beautifully designed apps ever IMO |
| 23:18.10 | secretlondon | I love it massively |
| 23:18.22 | goibhniu | I wish I could use it more |
| 23:18.29 | goibhniu | my gf is pretty handy with it |
| 23:18.39 | secretlondon | many linux progs are equal to well designed windows progs, or similar. Inkscape is BETTER |
| 23:18.50 | goibhniu | I've got to get more into blender though |
| 23:18.56 | goibhniu | it looks like fun |
| 23:19.05 | secretlondon | Comparing it to illustrator, the prof vector editor, inkscape blows it away for user friendliness |
| 23:19.05 | goibhniu | kdenlive is a lovely kde video editor too |
| 23:19.14 | goibhniu | yeah? |
| 23:19.20 | secretlondon | ah - I've only ever used kino |
| 23:19.42 | secretlondon | talking of which - anyone know a nice gui html editor? |
| 23:20.02 | goibhniu | some guy (daniel I think) was telling me at the last gllug about how to use kino with the vi keys :) |
| 23:20.07 | goibhniu | it sounded awesome |
| 23:20.24 | goibhniu | nvu? |
| 23:20.29 | goibhniu | or is that dead? |
| 23:21.28 | secretlondon | i'll install it anyway |
| 23:21.32 | secretlondon | it's in the repos |
| 23:21.40 | goibhniu | the firefox web-dev plugins are so awesome |
| 23:21.46 | goibhniu | is it for yourself? |
| 23:22.27 | goibhniu | if you're using layers and css you can do fairly ok with it |
| 23:22.51 | goibhniu | or if you're not too concerned about layout, i.e. you actually want to use tables for tabular data |
| 23:23.09 | secretlondon | basically - we may be setting up a new social centre in south london, and the person who did the web site for the last one isn't involved. as someone is flapping about it I said I'd do it |
| 23:23.28 | secretlondon | so I'd like to find software that makes it effortless |
| 23:23.39 | secretlondon | a sort of dreamweaver like thing, if possible |
| 23:23.52 | goibhniu | I spent a couple of years trying to believe that dreamweaver could work ... and then learnt vim because it was so much less faffing around |
| 23:24.10 | Discordian | I write HTML using emacs |
| 23:24.20 | goibhniu | maybe you need a content management system rather than an editor |
| 23:24.24 | secretlondon | I don't want to have to use a text editor unless I have to |
| 23:24.32 | secretlondon | it's not going to be more thna like 3 pages |
| 23:24.38 | goibhniu | ah :) |
| 23:24.49 | secretlondon | main page, a calendar page and then maybe a page of photos |
| 23:25.08 | secretlondon | we don't need anything heavy, but just something where I can lay it out visually |
| 23:25.18 | goibhniu | cool, gotcha |
| 23:25.37 | goibhniu | the gimp has some html tools |
| 23:25.52 | goibhniu | that will slice up an image along the guides and hand you the html |
| 23:26.04 | secretlondon | I want something more dtp like |
| 23:26.04 | goibhniu | just cut out the blank images and lash in some text |
| 23:26.19 | Discordian | bluefish is a gtk type HTML editor |
| 23:26.37 | goibhniu | Discordian: does that have a visual mode? |
| 23:26.48 | goibhniu | where you can drag and drop stuff etc? |
| 23:27.07 | Discordian | No |
| 23:27.41 | secretlondon | I don't need to drag and drop as much as visually lay out tables/frames |
| 23:28.09 | goibhniu | I'm not sure if seamonkey is more up to date than nvu ... possibly |
| 23:28.21 | Discordian | I have the visual layout skills of an idiot |
| 23:28.30 | goibhniu | hmm ... maybe open office or even symphony? |
| 23:28.55 | Discordian | Has IBM released symphony yet? |
| 23:29.27 | goibhniu | I think they have something floating around |
| 23:29.37 | goibhniu | possibly "a public beta" |
| 23:29.46 | Discordian | It's basically open office isn't it? |
| 23:30.06 | secretlondon | thats what google is saying |
| 23:30.17 | goibhniu | yeah, reskinned, and dumbed down I believe |
| 23:30.27 | secretlondon | http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Lotus_Symphony_for_Linux/1190189087/2 |
| 23:30.29 | Discordian | I've a copy somewhere of Perfect Office for Linux somewhere |
| 23:30.31 | secretlondon | only 3 parts tho |
| 23:30.40 | secretlondon | a word, excel and a powerpoint |
| 23:30.53 | secretlondon | I've got ooo here |
| 23:31.54 | goibhniu | do you have an idea of what you're looking for already? |
| 23:32.40 | secretlondon | dreamweaver :( |
| 23:32.50 | secretlondon | although I can make do with what I can find.. |
| 23:32.52 | Discordian | Heh |
| 23:32.56 | goibhniu | I'd be glad to help with the html ... as long as it hasn't been overly mangled already |
| 23:33.08 | Discordian | Does MS dreamweaver work? |
| 23:33.11 | Discordian | on linux |
| 23:33.23 | goibhniu | like if you want a three column layout with a header and a footer or something? |
| 23:33.42 | secretlondon | oh no - I was going to play and see what looked nice |
| 23:34.27 | secretlondon | it's macromedia dreamweaver, so adobe now, never mS |
| 23:34.41 | goibhniu | if you want to mock something up in inkscape I can offer implementation advice/code |
| 23:35.27 | goibhniu | all I know about layout and design is simple++ |
| 23:35.44 | goibhniu | a strong logo is good though |
| 23:35.52 | secretlondon | thanks. |
| 23:36.14 | secretlondon | well it will be a strong feel, with a punky (non designed but designed) look |
| 23:36.36 | goibhniu | ah cool |
| 23:37.01 | secretlondon | as it's a social centre in a squatted building |
| 23:37.18 | secretlondon | so nothing that looks corporate, it would need to look underground |
| 23:37.23 | secretlondon | but how, I dunno |
| 23:37.35 | secretlondon | almost fake cut out and stuck on |
| 23:38.22 | goibhniu | ok |
| 23:38.40 | goibhniu | it might be cool to do the text with some materials and photograph it |
| 23:38.47 | Discordian | Like early punk album art |
| 23:39.00 | goibhniu | like scratch the menu on a wall or some rusty metal |
| 23:39.13 | secretlondon | I like the idea of using orgnanic materials on it, not all computer generated |
| 23:39.21 | secretlondon | organic |
| 23:39.26 | secretlondon | but def punky |
| 23:39.27 | goibhniu | I wanted to make a logo out of bread once :) |
| 23:39.31 | Discordian | By a few newspapers |
| 23:39.35 | goibhniu | never did tho :( |
| 23:39.39 | Discordian | Cut the letters out |
| 23:39.53 | goibhniu | I wanted to bake the shapes in a very particular font |
| 23:42.20 | secretlondon | goibhniu: that's just an image map, and is really effective |
| 23:42.45 | secretlondon | although we;d need a way of changing the front page to highlight current events |
| 23:43.32 | goibhniu | that shouldn't be a problem |
| 23:44.01 | goibhniu | you'll probably want some plain text in there |
| 23:44.14 | goibhniu | or then again why not use all images |
| 23:44.50 | secretlondon | plain text is quicker to download, more accessible and can be machine translated |
| 23:45.09 | secretlondon | also foreign handwriting can be hard to read and we get loads of european visitors |
| 23:45.38 | goibhniu | you could always have text only/ accessible version too, but it is more hassle/fun |
| 23:45.48 | secretlondon | i'll think and play |
| 23:47.49 | secretlondon | i've found screem and peacock in the repo, i'm installing them and i'll experiment tomorrow |
| 23:48.06 | goibhniu | cool, I've never heard of peacock |
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| 23:50.23 | secretlondon | peacock It supports most of basic HTML. It features Session |
| 23:50.23 | secretlondon | Management and HTML Preview using the GtkHTML widget, |
| 23:50.23 | secretlondon | Drag N' Drop among other things. |
| 23:50.34 | secretlondon | no idea what it'll be lick |
| 23:50.36 | secretlondon | like |
| 23:50.52 | goibhniu | sounds cool |
| 23:50.58 | secretlondon | might be really simple |
| 23:51.17 | secretlondon | but I actually want somehting simple, the hard bit is the art work |
| 23:51.25 | secretlondon | art work !=html |
| 23:52.02 | goibhniu | exactly |
| 23:52.54 | secretlondon | anyway I should go to bed |
| 23:52.57 | secretlondon | night all! |
| 23:53.02 | goibhniu | nn |
| 23:55.06 | goibhniu | I wonder if they can use if for market research |
| 23:55.18 | goibhniu | *it |
| 23:55.27 | Discordian | Well |
| 23:55.59 | Discordian | They use BT Openreach for net access |
| 23:56.23 | Discordian | I've never seen anyone use it though in my local McD |
