| 00:03.59 | goibhniu | ah ... it looks like nvu has been superceeded by kompozer http://www.kompozer.net/ |
| 00:04.46 | goibhniu | it looks very nice |
| 00:05.02 | Discordian | That looks cool |
| 00:10.09 | Discordian | Though it's not unlike bluefish |
| 00:32.17 | goibhniu | nice .. it has an extension to edit the html in your favourite editor |
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| 06:58.33 | niv_one_three | hi all , I migrated from a single hard disk to software raid5+lvm |
| 06:59.19 | niv_one_three | managed to boot , but when I try running startx as a regular user, it fails |
| 06:59.49 | niv_one_three | how may I see what was the last file accessed that caused the crash? |
| 07:00.00 | niv_one_three | strace startxfce4 - didnt help me |
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| 07:34.40 | hali | niv_one_three: /var/log/Xorg.0.log perhaps |
| 07:44.43 | niv_one_three | last line is FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. |
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| 08:24.53 | niv_one_three | hali, odd as hell I tried it last night a few times, and tried putting the .config files away, it allways segfaulted |
| 08:24.58 | niv_one_three | now it loads |
| 08:25.42 | niv_one_three | pls advice me, how may I see what X reads,writes when executing ? strace didnt work, when I tried |
| 08:28.54 | hali | you cn always just strace X |
| 08:28.59 | hali | capital X is the actual X server |
| 08:29.17 | hali | strace -fF X |
| 08:30.01 | niv_one_three | I tried strace startxfce4 |
| 08:30.19 | niv_one_three | I think I need to use tee and forward it to a file |
| 08:30.27 | niv_one_three | so I may search it later |
| 08:30.34 | niv_one_three | any idea to to o this? |
| 08:30.49 | hali | strace -o file -fF |
| 08:31.12 | niv_one_three | I mean I think the problem with runing has to do with the files I copied from the old drive to the new raid setup |
| 08:31.23 | hali | how did you copy them? |
| 08:31.39 | niv_one_three | I move from a single hard disk to a raid5+lvm |
| 08:31.45 | hali | how |
| 08:31.46 | hali | with mv? |
| 08:31.51 | niv_one_three | then copied the files using cp -avr |
| 08:31.56 | hali | hm |
| 08:32.02 | hali | i would have used cpio or something like that |
| 08:32.19 | niv_one_three | so I may have forgot to use the -a option when coping /usr or /opt.. |
| 08:32.22 | hali | cp has issues with copying some things.. can't remember exactly what it was now.. named pipes or sockets or something |
| 08:32.39 | niv_one_three | hmm |
| 08:32.46 | niv_one_three | this is new info for me |
| 08:32.56 | niv_one_three | need to man cpio |
| 08:33.08 | niv_one_three | got no problem to run the copy again now |
| 08:33.23 | niv_one_three | I just want to have it all working as it used to |
| 08:34.01 | niv_one_three | hmm, no info in the cpio man, hali how to use it? |
| 08:34.22 | hali | tar is another option |
| 08:35.11 | niv_one_three | ya I tought of doing it using tar |
| 08:35.19 | niv_one_three | is it better then cp? |
| 08:35.23 | hali | yes |
| 08:35.32 | niv_one_three | pls explain why |
| 08:39.25 | niv_one_three | nm I am doing it now.. |
| 08:39.28 | niv_one_three | thanks |
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| 08:44.06 | bilarh | and cp follows symlinks too, i think |
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| 09:06.54 | hali | -a (hence -d) preserves symllinks i think |
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| 09:19.44 | Armand | Morning. :) |
| 09:27.12 | wethrin | Mooooooooorning |
| 09:31.40 | Armand | Hows you? |
| 09:33.12 | wethrin | okay. Got lots to do today |
| 09:33.33 | Armand | work type shit? |
| 09:35.18 | wethrin | mmm. writing up |
| 09:35.47 | Armand | bound to be fun.. ^_^ |
| 09:36.16 | Armand | I've got fk all to do.. stuff some laundry in the dryer, take it out, fold it. :P |
| 09:36.34 | wethrin | fun |
| 09:36.59 | Armand | Well, that and admire pics of the new M3 Sedan. :) |
| 09:40.30 | Armand | HAHAHA |
| 09:40.32 | Armand | http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3384/Nissan-Pivo-2-Concept.html |
| 09:40.38 | Armand | Oh dear... O_O |
| 09:54.26 | goibhniu | it has it's own robot! cute!! |
| 09:54.56 | Armand | lol |
| 09:55.09 | Armand | it's fking rotten.. made my eyes vomit. |
| 09:55.17 | goibhniu | it's hot! |
| 09:55.34 | Armand | Raaaaank! |
| 09:55.42 | goibhniu | it has a turning cabin ... reminds me of 2001 |
| 09:55.56 | goibhniu | it only it had robot arms you could drive it around the supermarket |
| 09:56.02 | goibhniu | *if |
| 09:56.28 | Armand | lol |
| 09:56.43 | Armand | Would you end up looking like the "car" ? |
| 09:57.23 | Armand | hahaa |
| 10:00.54 | Armand | shit, none.. |
| 10:02.01 | goibhniu | Armand: this morning I realised ... I want a quad core ... don't try and stop me! |
| 10:03.38 | Armand | I won't.. just as long as you get me one. :D |
| 10:04.10 | Armand | plus all the associated gubbins.. (motherboard, ram, PSU, HSF, etc, etc) :P |
| 10:05.48 | Armand | otherwise, I shall be forced to swap your CPU with a Cyrix M2-300. :D |
| 10:06.42 | goibhniu | sorry ... I can barely afford one ... I promise to send a picture though |
| 10:06.56 | goibhniu | you can tell me what to get if you like :) |
| 10:07.00 | Armand | lol |
| 10:07.05 | Armand | I wouldn't. |
| 10:07.19 | Armand | not even messed about with dual-core yet. |
| 10:09.46 | antiphase | Another gimmick to make you lot buy new stuff to replace your still-functioning old stuff ;) |
| 10:10.13 | Armand | I still make do with a dual p2-400 for a server.. |
| 10:10.28 | Armand | does it's jopb perfectly well. |
| 10:10.32 | Armand | job ^^ |
| 10:10.39 | goibhniu | well, I just heard reports this morning of someone who can edit raw HD footage with effects in realtime on a quad core |
| 10:10.54 | antiphase | Must have a quick mouse hand |
| 10:11.05 | Armand | not something I'd bother with myself.. but, w00. |
| 10:11.42 | goibhniu | I want that |
| 10:13.43 | antiphase | Do you edit a lot of video? |
| 10:15.21 | goibhniu | yes :) |
| 10:16.04 | goibhniu | it's for my gf really ... she's been using a headless laptop up to now |
| 10:16.21 | goibhniu | it's painful |
| 10:16.52 | antiphase | You should be shagging if you have a girlfriend, not geeking |
| 10:17.11 | Armand | true.. |
| 10:36.22 | Armand | shit on a stick.. forgot my head-set |
| 10:44.02 | polyunix | morning all |
| 10:44.16 | Armand | Morning. :) |
| 10:44.38 | polyunix | goibhniu>: it's about linux on Dell: http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen/client/en/ubuntu_landing?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs |
| 10:46.41 | goibhniu | polyunix: cool! .. it works now |
| 10:46.52 | goibhniu | the desktops seem reasonable |
| 10:47.58 | goibhniu | I was reading comments on the ebuyer linux boxes yesterday |
| 10:48.10 | polyunix | and |
| 10:48.20 | goibhniu | more than half the commenters lashed windows onto their boxes shortly after getting them |
| 10:48.27 | Armand | O_O |
| 10:48.37 | goibhniu | even though they were fairly positive about linux |
| 10:48.55 | goibhniu | they're really cheap ~£150 or so |
| 10:50.46 | polyunix | well if you have windows xp install cd, it always better to have 2 OS to boot. just in case |
| 10:51.50 | goibhniu | http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128595/show_product_reviews |
| 10:52.02 | polyunix | i have windows xp on my lap, but i use it once per month, when i want to shoot somebody. |
| 10:52.26 | Armand | lol |
| 10:52.51 | Armand | I wish I had done my partitions properly on this laptop, then I could have installed XP too. |
| 10:53.36 | goibhniu | I also have xp on my laptop ... I tried to install IE7 on it once ... it didn't work :) |
| 10:54.09 | goibhniu | I used it to upgrade the firmware once too ... that was it |
| 10:56.15 | polyunix | look at the first review. the guy can't find the password. i know this problem. it happens to me as well. ther is no root pasword on ubuntu....... |
| 10:56.35 | Armand | genius. |
| 10:56.42 | wethrin | sudo passwd |
| 10:59.30 | goibhniu | nah ... it's on some sticker that everyone seems to lose |
| 10:59.43 | Armand | uurhh? |
| 11:00.01 | goibhniu | lots of comments seem to complain about it |
| 11:00.20 | polyunix | i tried to install windows xp on my laptop and i did. nothing works!!!! no sound 256-screen, no wireless! i have to download tons of drivers from toshiba web site. |
| 11:00.48 | Armand | YAY |
| 11:03.22 | polyunix | i tried to install linux on the same laptop. after i figure out the password issue everything is working. no 3D graphic support though. ATI video card. |
| 11:03.40 | Armand | sheesh |
| 11:04.17 | jcookeman | hey dingleberries |
| 11:04.45 | Armand | oops, forgot I was wearing shorts. |
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| 11:14.13 | polyunix | read this ===> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-10-09-018-26-RV-HW |
| 11:14.49 | Armand | if it's that damned story about my "accidental" exposure again.. >_< |
| 11:15.32 | jcookeman | w00t |
| 11:17.24 | jcookeman | splashtop.com has been slashdotted?? |
| 11:17.40 | polyunix | Armand>: you've been framed |
| 11:17.43 | jcookeman | looking forward to seeing the vid |
| 11:18.01 | Armand | Again?? damnit! |
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| 11:21.15 | polyunix | Armand>: look at you!!! you put uncertainty on all gllug community ==> http://www.thehammer.ca/content/2005/0624/dingleberries.jpg |
| 11:22.29 | polyunix | sorry guys for explicit contents. |
| 11:23.21 | Armand | m'kay.. that was crap |
| 11:23.41 | Ch0Hag | Ironically you must be running Windows in order to update splashtop. |
| 11:24.21 | Armand | whaaa? |
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| 11:36.48 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Me old mucker |
| 11:38.05 | Ch0Hag | Desired skills: An interest in music and metadata is highly desirable. |
| 11:38.12 | Ch0Hag | That metadata! can't get enough of it. |
| 11:44.32 | jcookeman | guys, still looking for that perfect Oracle DBA with wonderful Linux skills |
| 11:44.37 | jcookeman | I know you know someone!!! |
| 11:45.08 | Ch0Hag | I'll learn Oracle within a fortnight if you give me a copy. |
| 11:45.21 | Ch0Hag | It can't be that different from Postgres. |
| 11:45.29 | Ch0Hag | Just - enterprisey. |
| 11:45.57 | jcookeman | It's not |
| 11:46.15 | Ch0Hag | Maybe a week then. |
| 11:48.28 | wethrin | Just download Oracle |
| 11:48.35 | wethrin | It's free |
| 11:48.45 | Ch0Hag | Oh is it? |
| 11:48.46 | wethrin | (within certain restrictions) |
| 11:48.48 | wethrin | yup |
| 11:49.27 | Ch0Hag | "Don't make more than $100,000 with this version because we want some of that lolly." |
| 11:49.29 | goibhniu | free as in evil |
| 11:50.20 | dick_turpin | hm theres four versions on the website |
| 11:50.52 | Ch0Hag | So what do you need an Oracle/Linux geek for? |
| 11:51.52 | polyunix | can't say enough thank you to goibhniu for his inkorrekt radio tip! |
| 11:51.56 | dick_turpin | Um to manage an Oracale database running on a Linux server perhaps |
| 11:52.15 | Ch0Hag | Really? |
| 11:52.19 | Ch0Hag | Well that's a shocker. |
| 11:52.30 | dick_turpin | :-) |
| 11:53.52 | dick_turpin | wethrin: what? |
| 11:54.08 | wethrin | dick_turpin: ? |
| 11:54.29 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Nothing just wanted to bring a bit of tension into your life |
| 11:54.39 | dick_turpin | wethrin: :-) |
| 11:54.49 | wethrin | Fuck. Oracle 11g is a 1.7GB download |
| 11:54.57 | Armand | nice.. |
| 11:55.27 | Ch0Hag | Woah it's nearly 2GB. |
| 11:55.43 | Ch0Hag | Does it write your code for you? |
| 11:56.51 | wethrin | The licence for the free version only allows you to develop a single prototype of your application |
| 11:57.01 | wethrin | If you actually want to use your app, you have to pay Oracle money |
| 11:57.11 | wethrin | but that's not entirely unreasonable |
| 11:57.24 | dick_turpin | Thats a dirty word to use here, Money |
| 11:57.43 | Ch0Hag | It's only dirty if you haven't got any. |
| 11:57.54 | Ch0Hag | Which makes it mud in my book. |
| 11:58.28 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Look at my pristine white shirt then ;-) |
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| 12:02.18 | Armand | w000! Joint time! |
| 12:03.05 | Ch0Hag | Email Address: The username doesn't seem to be valid. |
| 12:03.20 | Ch0Hag | How exactly does Oracle know what my server does and doesn't allow for an email username? |
| 12:05.49 | SlayerXP | Ch0Hag: perhaps it's not an rfc 2822 compliant email address |
| 12:06.04 | Ch0Hag | It is. They don't like + |
| 12:06.19 | dick_turpin | wethrin: And we know all about those don't we? |
| 12:06.32 | Ch0Hag | Besides - line noise is a pretty valid email address. |
| 12:16.42 | wethrin | dick_turpin: RFC 2822 compliant email addresses? |
| 12:16.42 | wethrin | Oh yes |
| 12:18.53 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yep |
| 12:19.04 | wethrin | :) |
| 12:22.03 | antiphase | No-one ever copes with comments in email addresses |
| 12:22.14 | antiphase | It's fun to complain to them |
| 12:35.05 | Leeds | me fail English? That's unpossible! |
| 12:35.18 | wethrin | Step away from the Simpsons! |
| 12:37.38 | boudiccas | we know they're loaded sir! Step away from them! |
| 12:42.28 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Whats loaded? |
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| 12:50.21 | Armand | erm? |
| 12:50.30 | Armand | lol |
| 12:50.40 | Armand | apparently I don't have a hard-drive.. O_o |
| 12:51.14 | boudiccas | the simpsons |
| 12:51.26 | Armand | rules, we know. :) |
| 12:52.44 | Armand | Sysinfo for 'laptop.armand.com': Linux 2.6.22.9-91.fc7 running KDE 3.5.7-22.fc7 Fedora, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1000MHz at 1000 MHz (1993 bogomips), HD: 0/0GB, RAM: 229/232MB, 118 proc's, 3.46h up |
| 12:52.46 | Armand | ?? |
| 12:54.50 | boudiccas | does your hardware browser show that you have a h/d there? |
| 12:54.58 | Armand | yeah |
| 12:55.10 | boudiccas | is it enabled in fstab? |
| 12:55.39 | Armand | erm, wouldn't it fail to boot otherwise? |
| 12:55.51 | boudiccas | i don't know, its your machine |
| 12:56.09 | Armand | dunno, I'm a linux n00b, remember. :P |
| 12:56.14 | boudiccas | i'm just working on the assumption that its not mounted |
| 12:56.33 | Armand | Well, everything runs fine. |
| 12:57.10 | boudiccas | can you mount it usking kwikdisc? |
| 12:57.39 | boudiccas | and that completes the limit of my knowledge |
| 12:58.26 | Armand | as I said, everything works fine.. drive is fully accessable from boot-up. |
| 12:58.49 | Armand | I suppose it's just a Konversation issue.. ?! |
| 12:58.58 | boudiccas | is it the /only/ h/d in your setup? |
| 12:59.03 | Armand | yup |
| 12:59.17 | Armand | aside from the USB drive I often use. |
| 12:59.34 | Armand | but, thats not on atm |
| 12:59.57 | boudiccas | can you paste in here the first 5 line so f'top' please? |
| 13:00.08 | boudiccas | *lines of 'top' |
| 13:00.15 | Armand | I got ya. :) |
| 13:01.17 | Armand | top - 13:59:27 up 3:54, 3 users, load average: 1.27, 1.44, 1.28 |
| 13:01.17 | Armand | Tasks: 119 total, 2 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 13:01.17 | Armand | Cpu(s): 5.9%us, 2.6%sy, 90.1%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 1.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st |
| 13:01.18 | Armand | Mem: 238500k total, 235096k used, 3404k free, 4444k buffers |
| 13:01.18 | Armand | Swap: 524280k total, 188308k used, 335972k free, 76264k cached |
| 13:02.29 | boudiccas | well that all looks okay and you've got a swap space which is being used, so i don't know what or where the problem lies |
| 13:02.58 | Armand | must be konversation then.. ? |
| 13:03.01 | Armand | oh well |
| 13:03.26 | boudiccas | have you tried xchat instead of konversation? |
| 13:03.32 | boudiccas | it works just as well |
| 13:03.53 | Armand | I did with, erm.. Debian I think. |
| 13:05.04 | Armand | Think I didn't like it.. |
| 13:05.11 | boudiccas | fair enough |
| 13:06.35 | Armand | I really should learn more about kernel stuff.. config, compile, etc. |
| 13:06.43 | boudiccas | its p*ssing down here! |
| 13:06.50 | Armand | same |
| 13:10.52 | Armand | whats a good site (dummies guide style) for kernel-guide gubbins? |
| 13:13.03 | boudiccas | haven't a clue, i leave that to the whiet-hats |
| 13:13.06 | boudiccas | *white |
| 13:13.19 | Armand | the what? |
| 13:15.20 | boudiccas | the white-hats |
| 13:15.48 | boudiccas | the good sysadmins compared to the black hats who are trying to crack our systems and break into our networks |
| 13:16.28 | goibhniu | Armand: I think there's quite a bit on kernel.org |
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| 13:17.00 | Armand | ok. :) |
| 13:17.02 | goibhniu | afaik there's a lot of support and docs for kernel hackers |
| 13:17.16 | goibhniu | and lots of money in it too |
| 13:17.36 | Armand | I'm not a coder.. O_O |
| 13:18.01 | goibhniu | you're a human ... close enough |
| 13:18.05 | Armand | hehe |
| 13:18.19 | Armand | I find only a few things more boring than code.. and fishing is one. |
| 13:19.35 | goibhniu | rugby? |
| 13:19.48 | boudiccas | i enjoy coarse fishing, i used to go with my x and it was always fun |
| 13:19.53 | Armand | nah.. you get injuries in rugby. :D |
| 13:20.18 | goibhniu | I used to fish, but I found it too traumatic |
| 13:20.29 | boudiccas | how so? |
| 13:20.33 | Armand | I used to go fishing with my brother.. purely for the beer & weed. |
| 13:20.39 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:20.45 | Armand | still boring. :P |
| 13:20.52 | goibhniu | ripping hooks out of wriggling fishies |
| 13:21.11 | boudiccas | ah |
| 13:21.14 | goibhniu | and them staring me out of it with that evil eye |
| 13:21.18 | Armand | lol |
| 13:21.21 | Armand | pansy. :P |
| 13:21.51 | goibhniu | yeah ... I'm not much into killing things |
| 13:22.01 | Armand | no need to kill them. O_o |
| 13:22.15 | Armand | unless your fishing for salmon. :D |
| 13:22.29 | goibhniu | or sticking pointy things into living things |
| 13:22.33 | bilarh | giobhniu: no you shouldn't kill them... just torture them a bit and let them go again :-) |
| 13:22.42 | goibhniu | I guess |
| 13:22.54 | Armand | I would love to go rifle hunting in the US. |
| 13:23.29 | Armand | after gun ranges & such.. of course. :) |
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| 13:33.22 | mikejw | hi people |
| 13:33.36 | boudiccas | hi person |
| 14:16.14 | Leeds | hmm... two of my colleagues - two of the team of three I was working with today - have set their Facebook status to "is suspected to be fired." and "is worried... too much suspected activites at work." |
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| 14:26.34 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Have we had the answer to the question I asked you earlier? |
| 14:27.18 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: it's a mystery |
| 14:27.37 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Ooh ooh I know that one |
| 14:28.07 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its a mystery oh its a mystery too me a shot in the dark the big question mark |
| 14:28.43 | goibhniu | hmmm ... sepultura? |
| 14:28.57 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Although you have to sing it with a lisp |
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| 14:34.44 | LeedsHK | bloody laptop overheated and died! |
| 14:51.45 | bilarh | wohoo, at least it's not monday :D :D |
| 14:53.53 | Leeds | it is, in fact, almost Wednesday! |
| 14:56.23 | Armand | Oh great.. 2 weeks until my birthday.. :( |
| 14:58.13 | boudiccas | 21 again Armand ? |
| 14:58.19 | Armand | I wish.. |
| 14:58.42 | Armand | although, that would mean I'd still be recovering from my horrid hand injuries. :P |
| 15:03.38 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Me old mucker |
| 15:04.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ooh I'm 22 :-) |
| 15:08.21 | bilarh | dick_turpin: penis! |
| 15:08.23 | Armand | Oh, ffs.. |
| 15:08.33 | Armand | It gets worse, I think. |
| 15:08.44 | bilarh | armand: sorry, i'm just a bit mentally unstable at the moment :( |
| 15:09.25 | bilarh | dick_turpin: should I make an effort and go home? |
| 15:09.45 | Armand | I have a mental incapacity flux dynamo attached to a little wheel with a pig inside. |
| 15:10.08 | dick_turpin | bilarh: And I'd decided to be nice to you today, no freindly insults and what do you come back with? |
| 15:10.18 | Armand | but, I'm safe! |
| 15:10.36 | Armand | I thought I wouldn't have any cash on my birthday, but it's cool. :) |
| 15:10.48 | bilarh | dick_turpin: nice?! you're having a larf, mate! |
| 15:11.05 | Armand | not until the 25th..! |
| 15:11.10 | Armand | DAMNIT! |
| 15:11.19 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Honest, I'm Mr Nice guy today |
| 15:11.24 | bilarh | ok ok, now we know when your birthday is ;-) |
| 15:11.29 | Armand | cool. :) |
| 15:11.33 | bilarh | dick_turpin: fine, talk to me tomorrow then instead :P |
| 15:11.38 | Armand | I would have said, if you asked. :D |
| 15:11.53 | bilarh | hehe |
| 15:11.56 | dick_turpin | All we need is his address, when the presents will be there and when he will be out |
| 15:12.03 | Armand | lol |
| 15:12.18 | bilarh | back to the old highway antics, eh, dick? |
| 15:12.21 | Armand | I'd be happy with a place to live and a job. O_O |
| 15:12.51 | bilarh | i've got some cardboard boxes here, unless someone's cut them up already :) |
| 15:13.04 | Armand | har-de-har-har.. |
| 15:13.05 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Are you happy today? last time we spoke you was on top of that multi storey car park |
| 15:13.07 | Armand | :P |
| 15:13.22 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i think i've got pms... all the signs are there |
| 15:13.39 | bilarh | dick_turpin: mood swings, soppyness, bloating |
| 15:13.49 | bilarh | although the last part may have something to do with the curry i had yesterday |
| 15:14.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh: True story, when I was at school (not all that long ago) a guy tried that as an excuse to get out of games, Oh how we laughed as the teacher kicked the crap out of him |
| 15:14.56 | bilarh | dick_turpin: corr, the 30's were hard, eh? |
| 15:15.13 | dick_turpin | Course teachers cant do that sort of thing these days |
| 15:15.36 | bilarh | is it called 'capital punishment'? |
| 15:15.49 | bilarh | is that like when you have to live in london for a while? |
| 15:15.53 | boudiccas | sausages or sossidges? what do you think? |
| 15:15.55 | dick_turpin | Armand: So you've no home, no job, and no money yet you can get on IRC thats pretty cool |
| 15:16.01 | Armand | hehe |
| 15:16.03 | bilarh | boudiccas: i favour sossidges myself |
| 15:16.08 | Armand | I'm crashing at my mates place atm. |
| 15:16.19 | Armand | sleeping on his sofa, again. :P |
| 15:16.33 | bilarh | armand: set up your cardboard box outside a starbucks with wifi :D |
| 15:16.34 | dick_turpin | Armand: so youre adding Theft to your CV then? |
| 15:16.35 | antiphase | Sausages give you heart disease |
| 15:16.53 | boudiccas | antiphase; but sossidges don't? |
| 15:17.19 | boudiccas | antiphase; prove it, cite your evidence??? |
| 15:17.24 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I've got a sausage for... Oh crap I'm still married |
| 15:17.26 | Armand | bilarh: Oops, no wifi card. >_< |
| 15:17.35 | Armand | dick_turpin: erm, how? |
| 15:17.58 | dick_turpin | Armand: Its your mates not yours give it back :-P |
| 15:18.13 | Armand | oh.. erm.. NO! :D |
| 15:18.21 | bilarh | dick_turpin: just don't let your wife catch you eat the sausage and you'll be fine :) |
| 15:18.22 | Armand | mine mine mine! |
| 15:18.42 | boudiccas | danger unexploded mine spotted by Armand |
| 15:18.43 | bilarh | dick_turpin: but watch out for the fire fighters |
| 15:18.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh: My first wife did :-( |
| 15:19.00 | Armand | *BOOOOOOM!* |
| 15:19.33 | *** part/#gllug huw-l (n=huw@novatech.cs.cf.ac.uk) |
| 15:21.24 | dick_turpin | Cor whats this with youtube? you have to sign up now for certain videos, I was gonna link to th eAfrican animals in a mine field |
| 15:21.36 | dick_turpin | the |
| 15:21.49 | Armand | is that the "minefield clearance" one? |
| 15:21.59 | dick_turpin | yep |
| 15:22.06 | Armand | fking awesome. :D |
| 15:22.25 | dick_turpin | Its not funny you know |
| 15:22.37 | dick_turpin | ;-) |
| 15:22.52 | Armand | muahahaha? |
| 15:23.11 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Now what you doing, leave it alone you'll only make it angry and red |
| 15:23.28 | Armand | lol |
| 15:25.03 | Armand | must.. resize.. background pic. |
| 15:32.02 | wethrin | Blarg. |
| 15:32.54 | Armand | neeblewerfs? |
| 15:33.01 | wethrin | ar |
| 15:33.12 | bilarh | dick_turpin: you hacked my web cam again, you sicko!? |
| 15:33.14 | *** join/#gllug XPSlammer (n=mart@82-69-6-203.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 15:33.17 | boudiccas | needle nardle noo |
| 15:33.20 | Armand | thought so.. |
| 15:33.51 | bilarh | dick_turpin: where's that link? |
| 15:34.10 | dick_turpin | bilarh: WTF you on about |
| 15:34.34 | bilarh | dick_turpin: the animals in the minefield |
| 15:34.37 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Is that some sort of Nordic speak? |
| 15:35.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ah http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=african+minefeild |
| 15:35.42 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; it came straigh tout of the Goon Show! shame on you for not recognising it |
| 15:35.52 | boudiccas | *straight out |
| 15:36.24 | bilarh | dick_turpin: remember, if you think this is funny, you're SICK |
| 15:36.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ha we are the knights who say ni |
| 15:36.36 | boudiccas | monty python |
| 15:36.53 | bilarh | hey i'm sorry guys, i have to go home now |
| 15:36.56 | bilarh | (and girls) |
| 15:37.23 | boudiccas | its not a problem bilarh . we'll still be here |
| 15:37.42 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I won't in 50 minutes |
| 15:37.44 | bilarh | boudiccas: but, it wont be the saem without me |
| 15:37.52 | bilarh | boudiccas: will it?!?! |
| 15:38.03 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; so you finish at 1730 then? |
| 15:38.14 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Thats OK we all just usually talk about you when you've gone :-P |
| 15:38.14 | boudiccas | bilarh; will ir what? |
| 15:38.17 | boudiccas | *it |
| 15:38.27 | boudiccas | arrrghhh, i hate my keyboard |
| 15:38.29 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: :-) |
| 15:38.51 | bilarh | boudiccas: never mind :-) |
| 15:38.59 | bilarh | dick_turpin: funny that, i usually talk about you to my wife |
| 15:39.08 | boudiccas | snuff |
| 15:39.13 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I know she told me :-) |
| 15:39.14 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i call you the mentally deranged person on #gllug |
| 15:39.34 | Armand | bilarh: "other".. |
| 15:40.02 | bilarh | you lot are orrible |
| 15:40.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You know full well you have to get up early in the morning to .... |
| 15:40.10 | boudiccas | we practise it |
| 15:40.18 | bilarh | dicK_turpin: i have no problems 'getting up' in the morning |
| 15:40.39 | boudiccas | hormonally challenged males! |
| 15:40.43 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ah you need the full text |
| 15:40.53 | boudiccas | wait till you get pmt! |
| 15:41.03 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what are you on about? |
| 15:41.06 | dick_turpin | You need to get up early in the morning to get one over on me :-) |
| 15:41.14 | bilarh | boudiccas: we proved above that i already have pmt |
| 15:41.30 | boudiccas | bilarh; are you bloated and manic atm then? |
| 15:41.30 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i don't want to get |
| 15:41.31 | dick_turpin | bilarh: IS pmt |
| 15:41.42 | bilarh | dick_turpin: anything over you, thanks :-S |
| 15:41.51 | boudiccas | bilarh; i thought you were going home? :) |
| 15:41.53 | bilarh | boudiccas: yes :P |
| 15:41.59 | bilarh | boudiccas: yes again |
| 15:42.04 | bilarh | you lot made me miss my train now |
| 15:42.04 | dick_turpin | bilarh: s'not what you said last night cheeky |
| 15:42.14 | *** join/#gllug morsing (i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc) |
| 15:42.18 | wethrin | hi morsing! |
| 15:42.26 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i *told* you never to mention it on #gllug |
| 15:42.26 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 15:42.28 | boudiccas | ey up, its morsing ! |
| 15:42.32 | bilarh | morsing! |
| 15:42.40 | dick_turpin | phew |
| 15:42.46 | boudiccas | night night bilarh |
| 15:43.06 | morsing | :) |
| 15:43.12 | wethrin | SlayerXP: ping? |
| 15:43.40 | bilarh | boudiccas: hehe :D |
| 15:43.45 | morsing | Thanks all :) |
| 15:43.49 | morsing | boudiccas: ? :( |
| 15:44.04 | bilarh | dick_turpin: find anything interesting? |
| 15:44.06 | boudiccas | morsing is a 'fuzzy head' :) |
| 15:44.07 | morsing | Oh xteddy is still here :) |
| 15:44.21 | morsing | boudiccas: :) |
| 15:44.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Bus fare home :-( |
| 15:45.02 | bilarh | oki, l8rs folks |
| 15:45.18 | bilarh | ah, i feel less bloated now |
| 15:45.19 | dick_turpin | bilarh: bye bybe baby baby goodbye |
| 15:45.28 | bilarh | i bid you adieu-rueudge |
| 15:45.57 | morsing | ping Toby |
| 15:46.32 | morsing | Bedtime in a hour |
| 15:46.40 | dick_turpin | Hm looks like I've gotta go to, later peeps |
| 15:46.44 | *** part/#gllug dick_turpin (n=dick_tur@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 15:52.53 | boudiccas | i like it here, you get a better clas sof insult than in most channels |
| 15:53.04 | morsing | ~seen secretlondon |
| 15:53.05 | ibot | secretlondon <n=secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 16h 8s ago, saying: 'night all!'. |
| 15:53.25 | boudiccas | *class of |
| 15:54.53 | morsing | ~seen z00dax |
| 15:54.54 | ibot | z00dax is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 17h 45m 7s, last said: 'maybe it can just be a nontalk talk. i get the ps3 there, hook it up, install linux and then people can just talk about things :)'. |
| 15:55.01 | morsing | ping z00dax |
| 16:02.01 | morsing | ~seen secretlondon |
| 16:02.03 | ibot | secretlondon <n=secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 16h 9m 6s ago, saying: 'night all!'. |
| 16:02.20 | morsing | ibot wake secretlondon |
| 16:02.20 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on secretlondon and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 16:03.17 | Armand | nuts, gotta go.. matey is gonna be home from work soon. |
| 16:04.39 | Armand | I'm stealing his internets atm, he's gonna want it back. >_< |
| 16:07.01 | morsing | ~seen slayerXP |
| 16:07.02 | ibot | slayerxp <n=mart@82-69-6-203.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1h 42m 8s ago, saying: 'stew: it's been a long day over on #svn'. |
| 16:11.29 | *** join/#gllug goibhni1 (n=cillian@marx.jamkit.com) |
| 16:14.33 | morsing | goibhni1! |
| 16:14.41 | *** join/#gllug mylesbraithwaite (n=mylesbra@CPE0050181121d5-CM0012254493da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:15.12 | morsing | mylesbraithwaite! |
| 16:19.17 | morsing | :( |
| 16:19.33 | wethrin | I want BEER |
| 16:21.05 | boudiccas | snuff |
| 16:21.22 | *** join/#gllug polyunix (n=egor@87.127.26.43) |
| 16:21.35 | goibhni1 | boudiccas: any word from daisy? |
| 16:21.40 | morsing | polyunix! |
| 16:21.45 | morsing | goibhni1? |
| 16:22.25 | polyunix | morsing>: !!! where have you been?! |
| 16:22.38 | boudiccas | goibhni1; yes, her mum was taken ill so she took a couple of days off work to be with her mum in hospital. mum is now safely discharged at home and is feeling much better thanks |
| 16:22.44 | morsing | polyunix: Hmm...! |
| 16:22.56 | XPSlammer | morsing: is xtedyy anything to do with you? |
| 16:22.59 | XPSlammer | xteddy |
| 16:23.08 | morsing | goibhni1: Thanks |
| 16:23.17 | goibhni1 | boudiccas: ah ... that's good |
| 16:24.29 | goibhni1 | XPSlammer: they're just friends I think |
| 16:24.46 | starshine | SlayerXP: other than that morsing invited me to bring the lil guy in, no. |
| 16:24.58 | goibhni1 | xteddy how are you? |
| 16:25.13 | wethrin | af'noon, starshine |
| 16:25.41 | SlayerXP | starshine: okay, bots should not reply on channel. private messages or notices only unless _specifically_ ordered to reply on channel. |
| 16:26.38 | starshine | .o( rude people shouldn't snark off on channel, either, but it happens all the time.) |
| 16:27.12 | starshine | hello wethrin |
| 16:27.15 | goibhni1 | SlayerXP: I don't understand, did xteddy do something wrong? |
| 16:27.22 | starshine | xteddy: gimme a beer for wethrin |
| 16:27.26 | SlayerXP | people are one thing, bots are another. for one thing bots behave themselves. |
| 16:27.27 | starshine | open tap guys. |
| 16:27.31 | morsing | SlayerXP: This is ridiculous! With the amount of rude, stupid people on this channel and you can't handle a friendly bot?! |
| 16:27.49 | SlayerXP | morsing: yes, exactly right. the bot has no excuse. |
| 16:28.13 | starshine | now about that *linux* stuff :) |
| 16:28.16 | goibhni1 | SlayerXP: I don't understand what xteddy did wrong? |
| 16:28.19 | *** mode/#gllug [+o morsing] by ChanServ |
| 16:28.24 | *** kick/#gllug [SlayerXP!i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc] by morsing (morsing) |
| 16:28.29 | *** mode/#gllug [-o morsing] by morsing |
| 16:28.30 | wethrin | *ahem* |
| 16:28.33 | starshine | he's written in perl and dorko there prefers python. I dunno. ignore him. |
| 16:28.36 | morsing | That's just over the line |
| 16:28.38 | *** join/#gllug SlayerXP (n=mart@82-69-6-203.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 16:28.42 | SlayerXP | hmm, i see. |
| 16:28.52 | morsing | That's just over the line |
| 16:28.53 | morsing | ! |
| 16:28.58 | goibhni1 | but xteddy just speaks when spoken to |
| 16:29.02 | starshine | bad mouse |
| 16:29.03 | morsing | SlayerXP: You have a problem |
| 16:29.07 | goibhni1 | xteddy is a good bot |
| 16:29.07 | xteddy | bbiab - |
| 16:29.22 | starshine | not only that but when you talk to him too much he self squelches. |
| 16:29.24 | morsing | SlayerXP: Is that what you wanted to contact the owner about? |
| 16:29.29 | starshine | he gets bored like everyone else ;P |
| 16:29.32 | SlayerXP | yes. |
| 16:29.41 | morsing | SlayerXP: You really do have a problem |
| 16:29.51 | morsing | Like so many other people on this channel |
| 16:29.54 | wethrin | no, just some people don't like bots |
| 16:29.59 | starshine | .o( no gf is probably it ;P |
| 16:30.08 | morsing | I invited xteddy to cheer all you miserable people up! |
| 16:30.13 | starshine | hahah |
| 16:30.23 | wethrin | morsing: Hey! Some of us like being miserable! |
| 16:30.29 | starshine | morsing: don't worry, he takes stab stabbity with good cheer too. |
| 16:30.30 | morsing | wethrin: no you... |
| 16:30.38 | Leeds | xteddy: die! |
| 16:30.39 | wethrin | But I'm a miserable old git |
| 16:30.39 | xteddy | :> |
| 16:30.39 | morsing | starshine: I don't always |
| 16:30.39 | antiphase | teddy is a gay bear |
| 16:30.57 | niv_one_three | hi antiphase |
| 16:31.04 | goibhni1 | xteddy is hot! |
| 16:31.04 | xteddy | :) :) |
| 16:31.06 | starshine | actually he's an imlib app. |
| 16:31.07 | niv_one_three | hi morsing , LEEDS! |
| 16:31.26 | morsing | niv_one_three! |
| 16:32.10 | niv_one_three | can any one suggest how to use cpio from one hard disk on host B to a second storage on host A? |
| 16:32.10 | Leeds | morning niv_one_three, g'night all |
| 16:32.21 | Leeds | niv_one_three: use rsync instead |
| 16:32.25 | niv_one_three | I mounted the host B via nfs |
| 16:32.32 | boudiccas | niv_one_three; use rsnapshot |
| 16:32.47 | starshine | niv_one_three: maybe but tar through an ssh pipe might be more reliable and rsync might use less bandwidth. |
| 16:33.00 | boudiccas | automated backups via cron, utilising cpio and rsync |
| 16:33.02 | antiphase | rsync over ssh, obviously |
| 16:33.03 | niv_one_three | some kind sole explain using cp -avr aint good enougth |
| 16:33.11 | niv_one_three | is rsync the solution? |
| 16:33.16 | wethrin | bah. just use netcat |
| 16:33.27 | starshine | rsync means that it won't copy again, things that are already there. |
| 16:33.27 | niv_one_three | netcat? |
| 16:33.36 | antiphase | There's rdiff-backup as well |
| 16:33.56 | wethrin | yeah, netcat |
| 16:34.01 | wethrin | ~wiki netcat |
| 16:34.02 | niv_one_three | right - I know rsync, but does it pocess the power to copy stuff cp can't ? |
| 16:34.27 | antiphase | No |
| 16:34.43 | *** part/#gllug morsing (i=morsing@emil.morsing.cc) |
| 16:34.45 | niv_one_three | anti: is the NO reffering to me? |
| 16:34.55 | niv_one_three | is morsing gone?? |
| 16:34.55 | antiphase | Yes |
| 16:35.02 | niv_one_three | oh ok |
| 16:35.18 | starshine | niv_one_three: it can fix the permissions like cp -a too |
| 16:35.25 | niv_one_three | so, guys pls tell me what to use, I dont mind starting all over |
| 16:35.30 | antiphase | RSYNC |
| 16:35.41 | boudiccas | rsnapshot |
| 16:35.41 | niv_one_three | thnaks anti |
| 16:35.50 | antiphase | You're easily persuaded ;) |
| 16:35.59 | niv_one_three | oh... |
| 16:36.35 | antiphase | rsync is often the answer, but not necessarily depending on exactly what you are moving around |
| 16:37.02 | starshine | if it is a fresh copy rsync takes no less time than a cp -a |
| 16:37.04 | niv_one_three | I am coping a single hard disk to a raid5 storage |
| 16:37.15 | starshine | however if it's a copy again then it can be considerable savings. |
| 16:37.39 | niv_one_three | I want it to copy sockets and other odities |
| 16:37.49 | starshine | if you're only doing the copy once then the main concern will be to make sure that it went across accurately |
| 16:37.59 | starshine | yeah rsync can do that |
| 16:38.01 | niv_one_three | just copy it all, so I may boot of the raid5 and feel at home |
| 16:38.17 | antiphase | You'll be lucky to boot from RAID-5 |
| 16:38.32 | antiphase | Unless it's in hardware of course |
| 16:38.42 | niv_one_three | oh oh , right, raid5 as my root fs.. |
| 16:38.54 | niv_one_three | 5 min left... |
| 16:39.10 | antiphase | Until what, you start paying for our advice? ;) |
| 16:39.51 | niv_one_three | niv goes home |
| 16:42.03 | niv_one_three | leeds? |
| 16:43.03 | niv_one_three | wethrin: thanks for netcat, nice reading.. |
| 16:49.10 | SlayerXP | well, I'll be off then. bye! |
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| 16:50.57 | wethrin | cat'lyst! |
| 16:53.05 | starshine | catalyst! buddy! |
| 16:53.12 | catalyst | hey starshine :) |
| 16:53.13 | starshine | long time no see. |
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| 16:54.31 | catalyst | starshine: just started my final year at uni |
| 16:54.57 | jcmlUK | Bad luck. The Real World awaits ... ;-) |
| 16:55.04 | catalyst | jcmlUK: heh |
| 16:55.15 | catalyst | it's almost like a full time job at this point ;p |
| 16:55.25 | catalyst | except I have to pay money instead of recieve it |
| 16:55.38 | starshine | catalyst: oh, good to hear. |
| 16:55.50 | starshine | I still have my sack of extra u's for colourful commentary. |
| 16:56.01 | catalyst | funtastic :) |
| 16:56.07 | catalyst | been up to much yourself? |
| 16:56.15 | starshine | way toooooo much actually |
| 16:56.58 | antiphase | http://www.ossified.net/crazy.txt <-- funny |
| 16:57.16 | starshine | one too many conventions this year, changed departments to bigger one, more active than ever to hamradio, some other volunteer group things |
| 16:57.34 | starshine | the last two 'free weekends' I thought I had the boss tried to steal for work |
| 16:58.09 | starshine | it's gettin so I have to tell them no, when I say I'm gonna be out of town I mean the phone won't ring til I'm back in cell range sunday night. |
| 16:58.24 | starshine | but hey, they pay' good :) |
| 16:58.29 | catalyst | :) |
| 16:58.48 | catalyst | that does sound particularly busy |
| 16:59.04 | catalyst | where is it you work again? |
| 16:59.21 | starshine | me? a mapping company called decarta |
| 16:59.34 | starshine | we've an office in england, but I've never been to it :) |
| 16:59.49 | catalyst | ahh :) |
| 17:00.35 | catalyst | I'm guessing you work on the software side? |
| 17:01.26 | starshine | yeah that'd be accurate |
| 17:01.37 | starshine | we don't have any hardware :) |
| 17:02.19 | starshine | (as products anyway) |
| 17:03.54 | catalyst | fair enough |
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| 17:04.38 | starshine | heading into work soon |
| 17:04.43 | catalyst | although as far as I'm concerned it's a football team from holland ;) |
| 17:04.43 | starshine | ah, you'll like it |
| 17:04.49 | wethrin | catalyst: It's software buzzwords! |
| 17:04.51 | starshine | try out our devzone ! |
| 17:05.03 | catalyst | wethrin: it seems to be javascript and HTTP GET :P |
| 17:05.12 | starshine | it's um some cleaning agent I think. hehe |
| 17:05.20 | wethrin | Yes. Buzzwords |
| 17:08.53 | wethrin | right. hometime |
| 17:12.21 | starshine | bye wthrin |
| 17:12.50 | catalyst | ajax is also apparently rhyming slang for betting tax |
| 17:13.55 | mikejw | catalyst: and post |
| 17:18.22 | starshine_away | work time |
| 17:18.30 | catalyst | enjoy |
| 17:18.40 | catalyst | mikejw: ah |
| 17:21.35 | mikejw | :] |
| 17:21.48 | cpufreak | bilarh: about? |
| 17:21.49 | cpufreak | http://jvc.pingus.be/fotos/TF_2007_10_06/CSL_Andy1.jpg |
| 17:21.50 | cpufreak | :) |
| 17:21.53 | cpufreak | http://jvc.pingus.be/fotos/TF_2007_10_06/CSL_Andy2.jpg |
| 17:25.17 | jcmlUK | you forgot one ... :-) |
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| 17:29.03 | SpudULike | Someone calling ibot annoying??? |
| 17:29.32 | SpudULike | Or was it some other bot? |
| 17:29.35 | antiphase | No, just the xteddy thing that doesn't do anything useful |
| 17:29.45 | antiphase | ibot has its uses |
| 17:29.56 | cpufreak | jcmlUK: nope |
| 17:30.06 | cpufreak | not unless I wante dto show 3,4,5 too. |
| 17:30.21 | jcmlUK | :) |
| 17:30.25 | cpufreak | only 1+2 would be of interest to bilarh |
| 17:30.39 | jcmlUK | arrrr, I see |
| 17:31.48 | gregj | http://dupa.privatepaste.com/b986y5BEKu |
| 17:31.58 | gregj | email footer one of my friends is using :D |
| 17:32.16 | wethrin | SpudULike!! |
| 17:32.47 | SpudULike | wethrin!!! |
| 17:32.51 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 17:33.00 | wethrin | How's life? |
| 17:33.17 | antiphase | gregj: Much longer than 4 lines of 72 chars. Lose. ;) |
| 17:33.22 | SpudULike | wethrin, you know, work, sleep, etc. |
| 17:33.39 | wethrin | the usual... |
| 17:33.55 | SpudULike | You had fun at The Victoria? |
| 17:34.10 | wethrin | Oh yes |
| 17:34.15 | wethrin | John was on fine form :) |
| 17:35.03 | SpudULike | He does like to make as many of the Greater London do's as possible ;-) |
| 17:35.20 | wethrin | Greater Greater London? :) |
| 17:35.25 | wethrin | You should come up at some point |
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| 17:35.57 | SpudULike | I should, and will, hopefully. |
| 17:36.39 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 17:38.37 | SpudULike | Is there another being planned? Notice would be crucial. |
| 17:38.52 | catalyst | xteddy, hug antiphase |
| 17:38.52 | xteddy | bbiab - |
| 17:39.15 | antiphase | xteddy: Self-immolate |
| 17:39.15 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:39.23 | antiphase | Fucking homo bot |
| 17:39.49 | wethrin | now, now |
| 17:39.52 | wethrin | SpudULike: Not at the moment |
| 17:41.14 | SpudULike | OK, that's my 3 months worth of IRC credit used up, gotta go, chat soon (ish). |
| 17:41.19 | wethrin | later! |
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| 18:12.16 | hali | anyone know whats up with clive-h? |
| 18:12.23 | hali | haven't seen him around for a while |
| 18:12.46 | boudiccas | hali; hes changed his nick to discordian |
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| 18:13.00 | hali | oh, then he was here last night i think |
| 18:13.09 | hali | just spoke to a recruiter who wants to get a hold of him |
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| 18:43.37 | secretlondon | ello |
| 18:45.22 | secretlondon | if that makes any sort of sense |
| 18:45.36 | starshine | dont worry, I won't tell. |
| 18:46.39 | secretlondon | well I'm allowed to be here (who would there be to tell) I just don't have access to anything, and it's all setup wrong etc |
| 18:48.02 | secretlondon | as this partition is ubuntu feisty and I normally use ubuntu dapper |
| 18:48.02 | secretlondon | 126 updates to install.... |
| 18:48.23 | starshine | we'll just sneak you out by way of the pub next door then, chroot and cheers, yeah that's it. |
| 18:48.50 | starshine | I'm about to give up on any hope of running google earth in 64 bits |
| 18:49.03 | starshine | I suppose I'll need a whole 32 bit chroot |
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| 18:49.54 | boudiccas | ey up heres dick_turpin |
| 18:50.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, back in a sec |
| 18:50.31 | boudiccas | times up |
| 18:50.40 | boudiccas | come back |
| 18:51.03 | starshine | you scared him off? |
| 18:51.12 | starshine | :) |
| 18:51.15 | boudiccas | BBC 7 comedy classics via the interweb thingie |
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| 18:52.14 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I'm back |
| 18:52.15 | boudiccas | hes back |
| 18:52.23 | boudiccas | and to prove it dick_turpin is here |
| 18:52.39 | boudiccas | BBC 7 comedy classics via the interweb thingie |
| 18:52.51 | dick_turpin | yep onme openSUSE 64bit 10.3 |
| 18:52.59 | dick_turpin | on me |
| 18:53.35 | boudiccas | i thought you like darch linux |
| 18:53.42 | boudiccas | *liked arch |
| 18:54.07 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; you distro whore you |
| 18:54.18 | dick_turpin | yeah but I also like to spread meself around a bit, you know what a tart I am :-) |
| 18:54.20 | boudiccas | :) |
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| 18:56.06 | dick_turpin | so the secret is revealed then? the mistery was ibot! |
| 18:58.37 | boudiccas | its a mystery to me |
| 19:00.27 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, I forgot you don't read the gllug mailing list do you? |
| 19:01.51 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; only via gmane |
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| 19:02.23 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; why, what thread have i missed? |
| 19:02.33 | boudiccas | snuff |
| 19:03.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, the owner of this channel was being asked to contact Martin A. Brookes off list |
| 19:03.19 | boudiccas | hang on then whilst i have a quick read |
| 19:03.40 | boudiccas | okay, read |
| 19:05.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Dull init? |
| 19:05.42 | boudiccas | very, i thought it was something of high importance |
| 19:05.54 | boudiccas | vital to my something or other |
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| 19:07.06 | secretlondon | rehi |
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| 19:07.24 | boudiccas | rehi secretlondon |
| 19:07.34 | starshine | oy. |
| 19:07.42 | secretlondon | vegan chicken |
| 19:07.44 | boudiccas | a chicken? i thought the going rate was two pigeons |
| 19:07.47 | secretlondon | made of soy |
| 19:07.47 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, sigh when you have low expectations like me the smallest thing becomes of interest |
| 19:07.56 | boudiccas | :) |
| 19:08.07 | starshine | the stakes when there's no profit are so small :) |
| 19:08.12 | secretlondon | boudiccas: this may be where I'm going wrong.. |
| 19:09.13 | dick_turpin | secretlondon, I've just looked in my Voodoo book and your missing some hamster giblets for that particular potion |
| 19:09.23 | dick_turpin | you're |
| 19:10.08 | hali | Discordian: yo, that guy from idealpeople was asking if you had vanished |
| 19:10.44 | Discordian | I am around |
| 19:10.58 | hali | Discordian: he said he'd been trying to get a hold of you for a week now |
| 19:11.00 | Discordian | I've a few phone messages |
| 19:11.17 | Discordian | I'll check with him tomorrow then |
| 19:12.51 | Discordian | Thanks |
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| 19:16.13 | Discordian | I have been a bit offline recently |
| 19:16.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, Hooray |
| 19:17.32 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: I was just thinking about you! |
| 19:17.36 | goibhniu | you and xteddy |
| 19:17.40 | goibhniu | together |
| 19:17.58 | goibhniu | that and your interesting observation about amd |
| 19:18.15 | goibhniu | since my machine locked today and failed to hibernate |
| 19:18.28 | secretlondon | o,g 5 min irc lag |
| 19:18.31 | dick_turpin | Ha the curse worked then? |
| 19:18.49 | secretlondon | omg |
| 19:18.52 | goibhniu | secretlondon I was hoping you'd be here! |
| 19:18.59 | goibhniu | have you seen kompozer? |
| 19:19.12 | goibhniu | it looks like just the ticket |
| 19:19.26 | goibhniu | http://www.kompozer.net/ |
| 19:20.27 | goibhniu | there's an extension that lets you edit with your favourite editor and it updates the preview ... that's classy |
| 19:22.13 | boudiccas | i've just read the bbc article about Ned Sherrins funeral. It was nice and comforting |
| 19:22.23 | boudiccas | in what it said about his final days |
| 19:22.45 | goibhniu | ~wiki Ned sherrin |
| 19:22.53 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, fixed compiz-fusion, well sort of, cant seem to get the animations working |
| 19:23.38 | boudiccas | eating fish pie and ....... oh for f**ks sake! |
| 19:24.05 | boudiccas | why does kontact balnk you out when its downloading your emails? its so damned annoying |
| 19:24.09 | boudiccas | *blank |
| 19:24.35 | boudiccas | fish pie, oysters and vodka martinis i meant to say |
| 19:25.18 | goibhniu | but that's not sossidges!? |
| 19:25.28 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: what did you break this time? |
| 19:25.32 | boudiccas | i'm not too sure about the oysters, never having eaten them, but the fish pie and vodka martinis sound like a nice way to go |
| 19:26.00 | goibhniu | afaik oysters are the only thing that don't taste like chicken |
| 19:26.42 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: so what about old archie then? |
| 19:26.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, Me baaaald head has let me down theres something I need to un-check to get the buggers working but I forget what it is |
| 19:27.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, What the dog? |
| 19:27.14 | goibhniu | ahh ... I forgot about the dog! |
| 19:27.21 | goibhniu | how's archie the dog? |
| 19:27.52 | secretlondon | i think i need to give up the interwebs today |
| 19:27.53 | goibhniu | has he trained you to feed him only the expensive food yet? |
| 19:28.07 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, He's stuffed full of chicken so I chased him round the house now he's shagged out on the carpet |
| 19:28.09 | boudiccas | give him sardines |
| 19:28.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Yep got some for him |
| 19:28.37 | secretlondon | I'm not really here - I'm getting batch irc every few mins |
| 19:28.47 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; shagged out! what have you done to him, and do we want to know on this family channel?? |
| 19:29.13 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, You how I have an evil streak? |
| 19:29.14 | hali | NSFW, warning! http://www.gumtree.com/london/69/14477969.html ... don't ask me how i found it ;) |
| 19:29.20 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; do you have a confession to make??? |
| 19:29.50 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, This is really funny but may not come across with full effect |
| 19:29.59 | hali | gumtree is very scary |
| 19:30.00 | goibhniu | hali: how did you find that incredible advertisment? |
| 19:30.01 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; is there something you should've told us but you havent told us yet? |
| 19:30.22 | hali | goibhniu: i promise i didn't search the adverts for "fart" |
| 19:30.50 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, He ran around like a complete nutter, he was so knackered that every time he tried too walk he fell arse over tit |
| 19:30.52 | boudiccas | some people are really so weird!!!! |
| 19:30.59 | boudiccas | lol |
| 19:31.06 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; good one :))))) |
| 19:31.27 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, Give him his due he's not a quitter |
| 19:31.31 | boudiccas | i can just visualise it :) |
| 19:31.34 | hali | another of my favorites is the "vore" people |
| 19:32.06 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, His legs just gave up the ghost it was pretty funny to watch |
| 19:32.09 | boudiccas | you wait till he chases you round the house, and you'll wish he was a quitter then :)))) |
| 19:32.15 | goibhniu | hali .. you have a secret life I know nothing about |
| 19:32.39 | hali | goibhniu: i'm notoriusly know to know way to much about totally fucked up fetishes :) |
| 19:32.42 | boudiccas | but hes only a baby, wait till hes fully grown :) |
| 19:33.17 | goibhniu | hali: I guess someone has to study these things |
| 19:33.45 | dick_turpin | boudiccas, he'll still be 1FT nothing when he is fully grown |
| 19:33.58 | goibhniu | hali: do animals have fetishes? |
| 19:34.09 | goibhniu | I heard a story about evil gorillas today |
| 19:34.29 | hali | vore; people with fantasies about being eaten by wild animals and digested in their stomach ... odd one |
| 19:34.33 | goibhniu | getting revenge on the pretty boys' offspring |
| 19:34.37 | dick_turpin | goibhniu, Have you seen the cadburys advert with the gorilla? its ace |
| 19:35.03 | goibhniu | hali: are they a recognised charity or something? |
| 19:35.16 | goibhniu | I saw that film about the guy who lived with the bears until they ate him |
| 19:35.20 | goibhniu | that was pretty cool |
| 19:35.32 | goibhniu | werner herzog rkkz |
| 19:35.42 | hali | goibhniu: no, but they have a hilarious forum tho :) |
| 19:36.10 | goibhniu | it seems like the kind of thing that you'd join for a laugh, and then before you know it you're one of them |
| 19:36.38 | hali | yes, the guys at somethignawful.com did a spoof :) |
| 19:36.54 | secretlondon | hali: i've just got the title to load, I'm not sure I want to go any further.. |
| 19:37.22 | hali | thye joined and posted idiot stuff and the vore people joined in and got all excited about arraning a trip to africa :) |
| 19:37.41 | hali | secretlondon: it's alright, not very graphical.. mostly idiot "erotic novels" and stuff |
| 19:37.48 | secretlondon | i've not met vore, but i've met the goreans of second life |
| 19:39.17 | goibhniu | do they pick on the vore? |
| 19:42.08 | secretlondon | and furry dominatrixes |
| 19:42.08 | secretlondon | and fat, furry, hermaphrodite submissives |
| 19:42.08 | secretlondon | second life - now with linux client! |
| 19:42.13 | dick_turpin | I'm outa here TTFN |
| 19:42.22 | boudiccas | byeee |
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| 20:04.01 | secretlondon | boudiccas: 1 episode of old harry's game has actually left me! |
| 20:04.30 | secretlondon | 6 are queued up as they come in serieses of 6 |
| 20:05.06 | boudiccas | brilliant, thank you |
| 20:05.41 | boudiccas | secretlondon; are they going to my gmail account please? |
| 20:05.48 | secretlondon | yes |
| 20:06.01 | boudiccas | may i pm you please secretlondon |
| 20:06.05 | secretlondon | sure |
| 20:06.10 | boudiccas | ty |
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| 20:27.20 | z00dax_train | Hello |
| 20:27.31 | secretlondon | ello |
| 20:28.17 | z00dax_train | Howse it going ? |
| 20:28.31 | secretlondon | it's going okay here |
| 20:29.01 | z00dax_train | Good, its not really going anywhere here:) |
| 20:29.16 | boudiccas | i log off to flush my memeory and ram and swap space, am greeted with a console inviting me to login...so i log back in and restart everything on kde using startx and then when i'm back at my gui i've regained my mouseover with the clock showing me my selected world times.......something that was missing before i logged off. how can i get rid of the console and get to the correct startup screen for kde??? i've tried ~. and ctrl+ |
| 20:29.16 | boudiccas | alt+f7 but nothing happens with either of them. any ideas please folks??? This is on Centos 5. |
| 20:29.18 | z00dax_train | I think we need more hamsters pushing this train |
| 20:29.43 | boudiccas | or gerbils in the treadmill |
| 20:30.25 | hali | boudiccas: init 5? |
| 20:30.56 | boudiccas | can this be run as 'user' instead of root? |
| 20:31.08 | hali | no |
| 20:31.14 | z00dax_train | Check if gdm / kdm is running... |
| 20:31.14 | hali | or at least i don't think so |
| 20:31.43 | hali | xdm ftw! |
| 20:31.51 | z00dax_train | Also, you just need to use alt+f7, not ctrl+alt+f7 |
| 20:32.17 | boudiccas | all i get is just the black console window with no idication if theres anything behind it, although i know that my eggdrop bot is still running in the background |
| 20:32.44 | hali | cursor in the corner or just blank? |
| 20:33.07 | boudiccas | just a login prompt for the users name |
| 20:33.57 | hali | hm, did you add more ttys perhaps |
| 20:34.00 | hali | alt-f8 then? |
| 20:35.13 | boudiccas | atm i'm just getting ideas to try and then next time i'm in that situation i'll try them out as its bedtime for me now |
| 20:35.40 | hali | nighty nite |
| 20:35.59 | boudiccas | nn and thanks |
| 20:41.39 | secretlondon | night hali |
| 20:41.59 | secretlondon | argh i meant night boudiccas |
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| 22:27.30 | wethrin | secretlondon! |
| 22:28.05 | secretlondon | wethrin! |
| 22:28.10 | wethrin | How do? |
| 22:28.29 | secretlondon | I'm ok |
| 22:28.39 | secretlondon | entering pamphlets into library thing |
| 22:28.49 | wethrin | personal library thing? |
| 22:28.55 | secretlondon | yeah |
| 22:29.12 | wethrin | sounds exciting :) |
| 22:29.13 | secretlondon | I'm also doing the local anarchist's library - but I do that there |
| 22:29.35 | secretlondon | the anarchist's library is a gold mine, but is as chaotic as you'd imagine.. |
| 22:30.08 | secretlondon | Thye have 2 rooms full of books and pamphlets stacked to the ceiling |
| 22:30.13 | wethrin | nice |
| 22:30.20 | secretlondon | without an catalogue. |
| 22:30.38 | secretlondon | soon they will have a catalogue :) |
| 22:30.46 | secretlondon | I shall organise them ;) |
| 22:30.50 | secretlondon | :P |
| 22:30.54 | wethrin | then there won't be anarchy there :-) |
| 22:31.04 | secretlondon | nah it's self organised ;) |
| 22:31.16 | wethrin | People know where the books are? |
| 22:31.19 | secretlondon | ish |
| 22:31.43 | secretlondon | there are roughly in subject area, but people don't realise how much stuff they have |
| 22:31.52 | secretlondon | there are many who'd use it if they knew about it |
| 22:32.07 | secretlondon | we can use library thing as an online catalogue for them - linked to from their web site |
| 22:32.24 | wethrin | Is it one where people donate their own books to it? |
| 22:32.42 | secretlondon | yeah, and they run a bookshop so it gets a copy of every book they stock |
| 22:32.59 | secretlondon | and people send it alt stuff they publish too |
| 22:33.15 | secretlondon | as though it were an alt british library or somehting.. |
| 22:33.35 | secretlondon | so donations from all over |
| 22:33.46 | secretlondon | anarchists are big on self publishing |
| 22:34.41 | wethrin | Ah, so no proper ISBN number?/ |
| 22:34.54 | secretlondon | mostly not - with the books it's about 50:50 |
| 22:35.00 | secretlondon | with the pamphlets never |
| 22:35.19 | secretlondon | but the british library doesn't have some of this stuff ya know |
| 22:35.31 | secretlondon | without an isbn it's a bit slow to enter them |
| 22:35.37 | wethrin | true |
| 22:35.53 | wethrin | surely the BL is supposed to have a copy of all UK copyrighted works? |
| 22:36.06 | secretlondon | yeah but that relies of publishers submitting it to them |
| 22:36.11 | wethrin | true |
| 22:36.13 | secretlondon | I think legally people are supposed to |
| 22:36.28 | secretlondon | but not every knows that or complies with it |
| 22:36.38 | wethrin | or at least the publisher needs to |
| 22:38.38 | Discordian | Bl is one of the legal deposit libraries in the UK |
| 22:38.44 | secretlondon | yes |
| 22:38.53 | Discordian | Like the bod in Oxford |
| 22:39.39 | wethrin | Yes, but more gets deposited into the BL |
| 22:39.52 | Discordian | I know the bod turns things down, storage space is a premium |
| 22:39.55 | secretlondon | people are doing things like running off things on their laser printers - 30 copies of which they get one |
| 22:39.59 | wethrin | The BL should have a copy of all published PhD theses, f'rexample |
| 22:40.09 | secretlondon | the bl doesn't get one of the 309 |
| 22:40.09 | wethrin | but they don't have to be submitted to the Bod |
| 22:40.22 | Discordian | samizdat style then |
| 22:41.09 | secretlondon | everyone and their mum has a laser printer publishing wing ;) |
| 22:41.25 | secretlondon | and you have that x 100 |
| 22:41.32 | secretlondon | uncategorised ;) |
| 22:41.33 | Discordian | Probably |
| 22:42.04 | Discordian | Been years since I wrote for a paper |
| 22:42.11 | Discordian | and that was hot metal |
| 22:42.57 | secretlondon | there's a local pensioner who specialises in translating stuff and publishing it in home brew pamphlets |
| 22:43.40 | Discordian | I used to write on average 3 pages on an 8 page tabloid weekly |
| 22:43.49 | Discordian | s/on/of/ |
| 22:53.16 | ells| | is there a url about the catalog you are creating? |
| 22:54.35 | starshine | nice. |
| 22:54.38 | Discordian | I have peter norton's guide to the PC somewhere |
| 22:54.51 | secretlondon | my catalogue is currently private as I had a fit of paranoia |
| 22:54.55 | Discordian | all about MS DOS 1.25 and the Bios |
| 22:54.57 | starshine | I've got a winn rosch hardware bible too |
| 22:55.25 | secretlondon | the infoshop's is http://www.librarything.com/profile/56aInfoshop |
| 22:55.32 | starshine | the funniest line in it is about the floppy drives being so godawful slow because of a firmware hack to work around a hardware error called the PC Junior. |
| 22:55.42 | ells| | thx |
| 22:55.54 | Discordian | I have about 7 bookshelves here |
| 22:56.04 | secretlondon | MS DOS explained, Bernard Bambini 1993 |
| 22:56.08 | Discordian | There's one that's just O'Reillys |
| 22:56.21 | Discordian | and 3 computer |
| 22:56.36 | Discordian | one politics and philosophy |
| 22:56.47 | Discordian | and two art and fiction |
| 22:57.28 | secretlondon | I have mine in piles as well as bookcases, and spread over my bedroom and front room |
| 22:57.41 | secretlondon | I really need to move the other bookcases out of the bedroom and into the front room |
| 22:57.44 | wethrin | I have a full databook for a DEC 486 PC. Got circuit diagrams and all |
| 22:57.53 | Discordian | Lol |
| 22:58.09 | Discordian | I have a PDP-8/E databook |
| 22:58.46 | Discordian | There's various other books in the loft and in the "spare room" |
| 22:58.51 | secretlondon | i found an ancient O'Reilly book on the Walworth Road - UNIX in a nutshell for System V from 1986 |
| 22:58.57 | secretlondon | cost me 40 p ;0 |
| 22:59.08 | ells| | wow |
| 22:59.26 | Discordian | I have a copy of that, blue cover |
| 22:59.33 | Discordian | cost me full price |
| 22:59.43 | secretlondon | mines grey |
| 23:00.03 | Discordian | I have the sixth edition AT&T unix manuals too |
| 23:00.16 | Discordian | They cost me approx 32 quid in the 80s |
| 23:00.37 | wethrin | what's that in today's coinage? |
| 23:00.44 | secretlondon | I have a later version of Unix in a Nutshell (3rd ed) with a tarsier on the front |
| 23:00.47 | Discordian | I dread to think |
| 23:01.28 | wethrin | Current Unix in a Nutshell is about 5th or 6th ed., isn't it? |
| 23:01.31 | Discordian | I've actually not touched the O'Reilly's in ages |
| 23:01.43 | Discordian | I have electronic copies now |
| 23:01.56 | secretlondon | I prefer physical books tbh |
| 23:02.10 | Discordian | I have physical books |
| 23:02.13 | wethrin | Yeah. You can't read electronic books on the shitter |
| 23:02.36 | secretlondon | or on the bus |
| 23:02.42 | secretlondon | or in bed |
| 23:02.46 | ells| | or the bath |
| 23:02.48 | wethrin | in bed you can |
| 23:03.01 | Discordian | There's unix in a nutshell on the pile in the front room |
| 23:03.05 | ells| | but even the paper goes bad in the bath |
| 23:03.22 | Discordian | and I ought to recover my O'Reilly's from ex work |
| 23:03.28 | secretlondon | I'd rather not take a laptop to bed |
| 23:03.28 | wethrin | keep the paper out of the water |
| 23:03.43 | ells| | i have some old VAX/VMS guides written by various universities from the early 90s |
| 23:04.03 | wethrin | secretlondon: Best place for them! |
| 23:04.17 | ells| | and my O'Reilly's are looking rather ages in tech now |
| 23:04.17 | Discordian | I have 3 VAX/VMS things from South bank somewhere |
| 23:05.25 | Discordian | yellowy things |
| 23:06.12 | ells| | mine are orange and pink |
| 23:06.49 | Discordian | I have a fair number of Pick/reality books cos I did that fpr many years |
| 23:06.58 | wethrin | The grey wall is where it's at |
| 23:07.23 | Discordian | I've a complete set of SVR3.2 docs |
| 23:08.16 | wethrin | PDP/11 bus book? |
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| 23:08.46 | Discordian | I have a PDP/8-E book |
| 23:08.56 | Discordian | and a PDP-8/L one |
| 23:09.06 | Discordian | since I owned an 8/L |
| 23:10.01 | secretlondon | cor |
| 23:10.36 | Discordian | My parents got rather upset with it sitting in the front room |
| 23:10.50 | Discordian | and made me dump it eventually ;-( |
| 23:12.15 | Discordian | It was a fun machine |
| 23:12.36 | Discordian | with blickenlichts |
| 23:13.37 | secretlondon | gut! |
| 23:14.54 | wethrin | FORTRAN! |
| 23:15.21 | Discordian | I learned to program in FORTRAN II |
| 23:15.27 | Discordian | I was 13 |
| 23:16.29 | Discordian | after that moved onto FORTRAN IV |
| 23:35.26 | starshine | of course they don't eat quiche. they eat whatever's in the vendo at 2 am. |
| 23:35.36 | starshine | automated vending machines don't sell quiche :) |
| 23:36.53 | Discordian | More to the point they don't use languages called 'smalltalk' |
| 23:41.09 | starshine | :) |
| 23:44.41 | Discordian | http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html |
| 23:45.12 | Discordian | Though in fact garlic mushroom quiche is lovely |
| 23:46.06 | starshine | ok garlic and mushrooms are good |
| 23:46.19 | starshine | but you can have a garlic mushroom omelette |
| 23:46.24 | starshine | ut doesnt have to be a quiche. |
| 23:46.32 | Discordian | indeed |
| 23:46.44 | Discordian | But quiche has carbs |
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